Should you spend more for a Sony TV? Why Sony TVs cost more
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- Though the premium Sony charges for its TVs has come down a little recently, Sony still tends to charge a little extra. Why does Sony charge more for its TVs, and are they worth the added cost over competing TVs from LG, Samsung, and others?
Sony's 2022 TV Lineup available here - bit.ly/3Fs6f95
00:00 Intro
01:38 Sony TV's move into "Premium"
03:51 How Sony stacks up today
05:56 Can Sony still justify the premium price?
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I'm a Repair Agent and I generally work on some Sony TV's once in awhile. Whenever I'm needing to service a Sony TV, Sony is the only brand that provides a step by step triage system, puts everything step by step in the most simplistic format, and retrieves all the parts I'll need depending on issues with their particular TV I'm dealing with. No hunting for parts online, google, parts store, etc.. That is some quality stuff right there. They also utilize these triages to see what kind of issues they have with their TV's so they can use that to improve their products every year.
What about the new AOC 4K TV's? I just bought one, hasn't arrived yet, 50inch and very very good price. How is the repair possibility on AOC TV's? Are they repairable or troublesome? Thank you AJ!
Kaizen! (continuous, incremental improvement)
Where can I get access to this triage system info? I've been having a problem with outputting audio from my Sony TV to my audio receiver. I tried a lot of troubleshooting but never got it to work.
@@GC-ps9mn using a HDMI 2.1 Cable to the receiver fixed that issue here
@@dorgeousmac9478 thanks. I thought I tried that back when I troubleshooted the problem last year but I just checked and it doesn't look the hmdi cable connected right now is 2.1. So I'm going to try that. The weird thing is I couldn't even get my tv to send a pcm signal to the receiver but that process seemed a lot more complicated than using HDMI ARC.
I love Sony TVs because they have the most natural color profiles. I know this can be adjusted on other tvs, but something about Sony looks so cinematic and natural.
I bought my first Sony a “Trinitron” in 1975. The Sony tax was real high then. I have purchased Sony’s since then with other brands mixed in. I still prefer Sony.
Tinitron was a revolutionary tech that literally no one else have. It was wayyyy better than pretty much what everyone else have at the time and basically no one can copy.
I 've had every kind of trinitron and they always win in pq
Given that LG makes their OLED panels, it's hard to justify the Sony tax these days. The Koreans have come in and eaten their lunch.
@@goldencalf5144 Sony still provide the most enjoyable visual and UI experience compared to the competitors. Their colour science is still better than most of the competitors, so the tax is justifiable.
It's still worth it.
I will always be happy to pay more for Sony, they have the quality, reputation and tradition to warrant it. Not only that but they are still a design driven company and their industrial design aesthetic is second to none - in fact they were one of the few companies that Steve Jobs looked to as inspiration as far as what he wanted apple to be like, and he was a huge fan of their consumer electronics.
they have one of the best engineers
Out of all the tv's I've had, Sony and Panasonic are the best overall.
My brother just got an LG tv and it's a mess, the tech is great in the tv but the ease of use and menus are all over the place, it's so confusing to do basic things that I was considering getting one but after seeing my brothers, I didn't bother all because of how messed up the menus are.
@@paul1979uk2000 I also forgot to mention a friend of mine is a high-end AV guy in LA and his standard recommendation is for Sony TV’s. It’s what he has himself at home, if that counts for anything.
100% correct. Jobs was a huge fan of Sony, and Akio Morita (Co-founder of Sony) was one of his idols. It's absolutely true that he modeled a lot of Apple on SONY.
@@rustylarry7465 yeah best engineers that still can't get VRR working in their TV's for years without breaking something else, meanwhile other TV brands like Samsung and LG have full Freesync Premium Pro support
Out of the box color accuracy is worth it for me personally. I’ve gotten used to Sony TVs looking more accurate than other TV brands owned by friends and family. You’d be surprised how how much more sophisticated your eyes get after extended exposure.
Same with their phones, I can't stand Samsung OLED on their phones, Apple is also more accurate.
@v cam I’ve owned them. And no, they don’t
Such a great point at the end there. I have a x900 & my parents have the A8G oled & every time I go over there I notice how damn good their tv looks. The x900 looks wonderful but Sony’s oled is 🤌🏻
That's correct 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾... You'll be surprised how your eyes get more sophisticated with a SONY TV!!! 👌👌
@@Beamber which other brands did you own as well?
Bought my parents a 55" Z9D. Still amazes me how bright that TV is even today! Was definitely the best TV on the market when it came out!
Hey everyone. I misspoke twice on the same bullet point. It’s Sony X95K vs. Samsung QN95B (not S90B), and the margin of up charge is less expensive, but the Sony is still more. At 65-inches, the premium is $200 for the Sony - it reinforces my overall point, but the sun-hed was misspoken and I apologize for the error!
There’s a QN95B now
200$ more is worth it for a tv that will last 5-10 years whereas samsungs break soon and often for SO MANY PEOPLE..just look at their rewiews the last 10 years or more
@@michaellubeck8464 Nonsense
Our 65X95K is US$1077 more expensive than the 65QN95B here in Singapore! 😲
The naming and numbering from all the brands and where each stacks up in the roster is way too hard to follow
Really great take on this topic Caleb. I am a life long Sony owner. Started my journey in the late 90's with a 40" Trinitron Vega. I think the stiff competition has yielded better products from all brands to be sure. One major event cemented my path with Sony. In the early 2000's I had a rear projection 1080p Sony that went all green (something with the color wheel...idk), and I contacted Sony even though it was out of warranty. Well, someone somewhere thought my business was worth it cause they shipped me a then new HX series LCD from their back stock but UN-OPENED and all I paid was my state tax on the MSRP of the TV. (Guess it was good I registered all my purchases LOL) Anyway...I am a purist in terms of image quality. I have mountains of 4k discs and enjoy the best the format has to offer. I am currently rocking an X950G in the 75" range but am swooning over the X95K. Cheers to Sony for still making great products.
That 40" must have weighed a ton, I have a 36" Wega I use for video games, and it weighs more than 200 lbs.
@@edwarddore7617 Never weighed the thing but legit it's heavier than me (185 lbs).
Absolutely agree with your point of the Sony tax being less of a thing this year compared to the other "premium" brands with the exception of their flagship sets. Also I would even add Sony has had really good sales this year on the J series as well, while they started a little higher MSRP ever since the beginning of 2022 they have been rock solid on sales that are very competitive, so I will highlight some of their 65in pricing since it is what I am most familiar with off the top of my head over time.
Getting into say a entry 4K 120 set like the X85j and you look it it's equivalent Samsung and its usually $100 more, and LG didn't do a basic 4K 120 this year in the US (Except I think they did a limited run costco special that I would probably avoid).
Want entry level FALD? Sony X90J has usually only been like $50-$100 more than the Q80A, and for a bit was cheaper until Samsung realized how stupid they were being and reacted. For that little extra you are while none of the over saturation Samsung is known for as well as a VA panel so better dark room performance at the cost of some view angles. LG Nano 90 is typically closer to $100-$200 but lacks the brightness of the other sets
Overall I was really happy with Sony's lineup and I feel that most of my tweaks I would have said they should make they have made (Although since they have not announced it in all sizes could the A90K be a little closer to the G2? Would be great if it was only a couple hundred dollars more and then you could just say well it is the cost difference of a good soundbar and it has better sound so it being more is moot for many customers)
The thing about Sony is that, when the sales finally kick in, it's usually worth it as those MSRPs get much closer - especially if you can find a nice condition open box to carve even more off the price. And like this video says, Sony is now producing offerings that are competitively priced.
Great video! Really enjoy these types of pieces that create dialogue!! Cheers brother!! Looking forward to more as we have an interesting month ahead of us with the release of the a95k!
I have a Sony Bravia from 2011 and it still works really well now in the spare bedroom. No lag, audio and picture quality is good. I attach a chrome cast to it and it feels just like a brand new tv. I have a newer one in the living room, which has been a joy to watch 4K movies on and honestly am still amazed at how well the old one has held up.
No lag on an HD? I doubt it. That being said our first HD, a 2006 Bravia was still working great when I gave it to out neighbor last year.
My Bravia from 2013 is also still going strong. I don’t remember if my buddy bought an LG or Samsung that same year, but his took a sh** about 2 years ago now.
Me too. I'm still using a 2011 Bravia with local dimming and it's pretty good. The only problem it has is obvious lag/smear on edges of red objects against a lighter background.
I am using a Philips PFL from around 2009, still works like a charm to this day. Without Sony tax
@@inevitable408 same man i have 2013 bravia still going strong im probaly gonna get the a90k next year
Bought a sony tv way back in 2013, still working, used it everyday. For 8 hrs. Really a solid tech. Bought a sony phone way back in 2017 still working. The brand is the most reliable ive seen just like toyota.
Quality control always leads me back to Sony. Replaced my 8-year-old bedroom Sony LCD recently and decided to try Hisense based upon reviews. Was disappointed with the image processing and even more disappointed in the quality of the panel. Replaced it with a Sony X85J and had a much more pleasurable experience all around. I most certainly could have gotten more for my money with a Chinese brand, such as local dimming, which this television lacks, but the peace of mind of having a set that will be as dependable as the set it's replacing is worth it for me. I'm considering doing the same when I replace my living room TV, as every LG OLED I've tried has had a tint on one side of the display. As I sit off angle in there, it was just too distracting to live with.
As some who works retail in TVs for years and I would largely agree with it with the exception of the first month. Always seems we have nothing but issues with new Sony models for the first month or so having random bugs or a higher than expected for Sony failure rates, but after that first month of production I would absolutely agree with you.
Now IMHO model makes every bit as much a difference as brand, higher end TVs tend to just have less issues (Sony's X75 TVs when they decide to release one that low priced every other year and then the following year decide not too because they feel it sullies their brand) and budget sets from other "premium" brands are notorious for having issues. However, that is what happens when you buy lower binned panels and use liquid capacitors; and you are going to do that in those cheaper sets because you have to get the cost down somehow.
try the qd oled tv from samsung.... no hint of different hue anywhere
@@jenvogue5005 QD-OLED has been shown to have less screen uniformity issues than WRGB OLED, that doesn't really have much to do with it being a Samsung and more to do with the technology of the panel
Try a x95k or a95k
@@tjhrulz It has everything to do with Samsung... samsung display made that tech.... what tech does sony have? nothing
I am using Sony KlV32V550 ,its picture and sound quality is top notch even today without any subwoofers etc. Its a 32 inch LCD TV bought in 2010. yes compared to the bigger screens nowdays only - is the 32 inch size other than no issues at all.
Google TV and out of the box color accuracy is worth it for me. Got my 65" A80J on a hefty employee discount and i love it.
Some people like Hondas, some like Fords others Electric cars. If you like Sony, Lg, Samsung go for your choice. I like the competition between these companies.
Excellent topic for a video. Would love to see more “state of the industry” style content going forward.
Love this type of content! More explanations like this please! ❤🎉
My old sony tv is still going strong after 15 years. Best brand.
My Sony 1080p KDL-40XBR3 was $3,000 in 2006 and is still working strong today with zero issues. As far as I'm concerned the quality has always been there and I've seen many other brands just die out after a few years.
I only recently replaced it because I wanted to go 4k and OLED, but the old TV still worked fine and had 9 inputs including at least 3 HDMI.
yep my 46X3500 which is 46xBR3 in the US is still going strong today. The design is also quite nice.
Hahaha I have the KDL-52XBR3 from 2006 and still love it to death. Paid $5,000 for it back then but its outlived all my newer tvs. Our samsung just died that we bought in 2011 but not the 06 Sony!
Hey Caleb, I enjoy these sorts of discussions. I'm a regular casual viewer of the channel, I've been weighing up pulling the trigger on an OLED for a couple of years from CX to C2, I get caught in that loop of 'Oh well the C1 just came out, so do I really want last years CX' copy paste for 2022 now.
I've been a Sony customer for years, and their signal processing is what brings me back. Every HDTV I've owned has been a Sony. The only bad experience I've had was with the 3D model I bought back around 2009, but in retrospect, I guess that's what I get for buying into the 3D hype - not that I had any issues while it worked, but it definitely didn't last very long. I bought my first 4K TV back in 2017 (49-X800E), and just bought a 50" X85K to replace my KDL-46XBR-4 that just gave out after 16 years. Love the picture on these two 4K TV's.
Note that my recent purchases haven't been super high-end, but these TV's were still a little more than their Samsung/LG counterparts. Got them on sale, though, so I have no complaints about the prices I paid. I even saved an extra $50 off my recent purchase; The TV got discounted a bit more literally the day after I had purchased it, but the dealer was happy to price match it for me.
My Sony LCD tv lasted 10 years, I had to give it away instead of waiting for it to breakdown. My new Sony tv is already 2 years old now and not a single issue with it. It looks and works great for the price however it is the peace of mind which is immeasureable to me.
This sold me, thanks for sharing!!
My Sony tv is 8 yrs old and still has most features new stuff has and works awesome it also helps it's rare to get hold of 32 inch full hd tvs
@@peterlustig970 They don’t make ‘em like they used to.
@@contenteater Same over here, KDL-40Z5500 was expensive and top of the line back in 2009 but it still rocks as from day one.I also think that they don’t make them like they used to do.
Mine is about 14 years old. I don’t plan to upgrade until it breaks but who knows when that will be 😆
In theory I would have a better tv now if I bought cheaper ones more often but I don’t like the waste.
Gladly paying the Sony tax since 1990 (or rather my parents did LOL)
I have a relative who owned a 32" Sony Trinitron 1080i flat-screen Cathode Ray Tube TV that functioned perfectly for 20 years without ever needing any repairs. It was still working flawlessly when it was traded in for an LG OLED. I was sad to see that totally dependable Sony model being hauled away. By contrast, I have owned 2 Samsung TVs that were the top-of-the-line "flagship" models when I bought them, and they have BOTH needed costly repair work during the time I've had them. Maybe I'm just unlucky, but as a result of those experiences I am reluctant to invest in another expensive Samsung TV -- even if the Samsung model has excellent picture quality and is priced lower than a Sony.
@@marksalamon619 Every Samsung product I owned needed costly repair or even broke beyond repair and that include TVs, flagship phones, washing machine... I shall never buy another Samsung product.
@@miled8649 Another reason I try to buy from companies that build their products to last is so that I can avoid adding to the already massive amount of electronic waste. If Samsung expects us to pay top dollar for a product that soon needs repair or becomes unusable, they are basically running a scam by selling shoddy goods that will just end up in a landfill. I don't want to give my money to a business like that. I'm grateful that you posted your comment about the problems you've experienced with Samsung products - it helps me avoid making a costly mistake.
Hi Caleb, i just recently brought the 55" Sony x90k and Bose 900 system and hooked up a Playstation 5 and soon the Xbox to it. I was amazed of the games and 4k movies. The Atmos was great. Tried out Disney plus of Avengers infinite war on imax enhance was great to watch. I haven't have a problem with purchasing sony television. Hope to see the reviewing on this television.
I bought my first Sony OLED, a 65' A80J after watching a lot of your reviews, even on sale it was a lot of money but I could not be any happier with the purchase. As it stands I can't see myself going with either Samsung or LG for future TV purchases
Just picked up a A80J 50” in January, very happy with the performance and hope it to last 10 years , minimum.
Had Sony all my life, first one ~1984. Old box spent most of its life attached to my Commodore 64.
I am from India and always used to see tech specs in the news papers on any electronic products’ ad. Right from my teenage years (from early 90s till now) I have seen that Sony never compromises on price and quality. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for!
Recent Sony A90j owner here.
Still paid a huge premium for a TV which is coming up to 1 year old. Honestly though when the TV is being compared to the QD Oled of 2022 you know are still getting one the best TV's in the market for colour, clarity and motion.
Sony have been doing the same thing for generations!
I got a Sony A80J 55 inch very recently and I'm so glad about my decision to go for it. My older TV was also a Sony LCD (32 inch) bought in 2009 and it gave me zilch issues. For about a month before buying the new TV, I was contemplating of getting a Samsung or LG but my heart was still leaning towards Sony. When I went to the store, I thought I'll go for LG as I liked their WebOS and the ease of operating the TV using remote as a pointer but ended up buying the Sony (heart winning over head). And this Sony A80J being the 2021 bestseller was already sold out everywhere but this electronic shop offered me their display unit. I was so happy at the bargain. Very Happy with my Sony A80J 55 inch
Bought a Sony 4k in 2014, still working great. Still looks great too. Plan on upgrading soon though. Might wait until later this year for deals.
My Sony x900e broke recently, luckily it came with 5 year warranty and Sony replaced it with x90j so my experience with Sony has been good glad it had 5 year warranty 😁
With sales I was able to grab a 55" X90J over Christmas for around $1300CAD shipped. Quite happy with its performance. Originally set a 1K budget and was looking at the X85J, but decided against that since it was using the older models chipset.
I briefly cross shopped a 55" LG C1 but the cost was $400+tax.. didn't want go down the rabbit hole spending 2k on a TV when I originally set my budget at 1k 😆
Man I wish I had that kind of money to drop on TVs. Being poor sucks.
Great take! I recently bought a Sony X91J 85" from Costco, and I am blown away with it. I can't believe I paid $2200 for an 85", high quality TV. What a time to be alive!
My KDL-40 Sony Bravia HX800 from 2011 still works great this 2022! Thank you!
One of the things that drew me to the A9G was the screen speaker setup. It sounds great. I just have the TV in my room and don't need to have a speaker setup.
Android TV is really great too.
Me too! They’re even replacing my A9G with an A80K this month. Great company.
@@Riceordie why are they replacing it?
For someone that was hesitant between LG and Sony. I was concerned about burn in and thought let me get something that gives me a cinematic experience. I have the X90J and I love it. I do know that Sony take their sweet time using new features while the rest have done it long ago. I plan on getting an OLED (C2) for gaming and stick with Sony for cinema and sports. You do get high quality with Sony.
How’s the motion on the sony?
@@hectorsaldana7021 If it's anything like my X95G, I'm sure it's fantastic! X90J is an awesome model!
X90j is okay. I got one for my parents. Compared to my oled it's trash though. Blooming ruins everything.
@@RyhtymFiend I was gonna get an OLED, but I wanted a brighter screen.
@@RyhtymFiend Nah To be honest I feel the jump from an edge lit IPS TV to a FALD VA Tv felt bigher than from FALD VA to OLED
your tv reviews are the best on youtube. thanks.
Another great video to help consumers make informed purchasing decisions. Really appreciate it!
Been a Sony TV fan since I was a child. And their quality has been top notch. Usually keep their tv for at least 8-10 years before jumping to something new. I’m on my 4th Sony tv. Latest being the A80J 85in
I love Sony electronics. I got the x900h to pair with my ps5 and its glorious for both games and 4k movies. Hoping the TV will get me through 10 years
Same here
Awesome review! Your understanding is truly prodigious.
loved this kind of video of discussion, its very chill while capturing my attention all the same : )
As an integrator, we used to use Sony TVs almost exclusively. Now, however, we are mostly avoiding them. The reason isn't price or the fact that others have gotten "closer" in quality of picture. The reason is the support given by Sony as far as warranty returns, technical support, etc. We literally had a very high-end 75" OLED Sony die one DAY out of warranty and Sony would not help at all. On the other hand, I've seen LG handle known issues many months outside the official warranty. We have seen tons of power supplies on Sony TVs die an early death. Frequently, the ethernet port just doesn't work after a while and we have to switch to WiFi. That has been going on since the Bravia D series TVs and still happens - so much so that we plan on it during the install by pre-programming WiFi settings even when the wired ethernet is being used so we can easily talk the customer on making the switch. I will say that IP control is better on the Sony products than either the LG or the Samsung, but both LG and Samsung are usable now and improving. Generally, LG and Samsung IP control only works well using a wired connection, so that can be an issue. Fortunately, that is not the case with Sony as the WiFi IP control still works well (luckily, since we almost always have to switch them eventually).
This is exactly why I don't buy Samsung TVs. Samsung even stated that if it was a manufacturing defect, they would NOT extend the warranty.
Not only that, but because they do NOT have any service centers in my area, it would cost more than what I paid for the TV to ship it to their service center for diagnoses, let alone their diagnoses fee.
Meanwhile, Sony has a service center in the nearest town, and they haven't yet charged me any diagnosis fees for products that I've sought repairs on.
My last Sony lasted a few months past the 2-year warranty and Sony customer service informed me that I should have not expected for it to last longer than that.....???
@@leom9286 you shouldnt have expected the warranty to last longer. You already had any extra year of warranty compared to the normal 1 year everything normal has.
Imagine the overhead for a company to fix any old model, it's impossible.
@@samrowlands7842 if my buying decision was dependent on the company having a service center near by I wouldn't own a TV at all. Consider yourself lucky that any TV manufacturers have a service center near you. Most people can't say that.
@@jimv1983 bulls eye 👍
We owned a sony color trinitron TV in 1985. And still it's running in quite good condition
Well done - clarifies much for me. No bs is what we need more of. Thanks and keep up the great work
Always enjoy your content!
I remember when I was a kid in the 90s and Sony's Trinitron TVs were considered the best on the market. Sony has always been a good TV brand.
Those TV's were great and heavy as hell
@@michaeldawson6565 All TVs in that era were heavy.
@@MistyKathrine no shit Sherlock but the Trinitron was even heavier than other TV's the same size
@@michaeldawson6565 All TVs in that era were heavy still. ;D
@@YavNe no shit dummy that wasn't my point
Sony's quality control and build quality has always been a factor on me going with them. i have been burned by samsung in the past and havent been let down with sony TVs so far. currently on an x90j and had 900f and 800d before.
yeah sony has top tier quality control and build quality, and their products are well engineered; with great technical performance it isnt just brand recognition alone, the trust is earned.
The panels are made by LG though. They deserve some accolades.
My X85J arrived with HDMI not working so I refunded and bought the X90J.
1 year later and the panel has a small faded patch surrounded by discolouration over a large area of the screen. That's 2/2 faulty Sony TV's. I'm never buying Sony again.
Had a Sony BRAVIA from 2009, passed it onto my girlfriend and it is shocking how good the picture and build quality was on that thing- it's still going strong and looking great.
I replaced it with the A9S OLED, and the processing and build quality on that is also incredible.
I think the thing about these Sony TVs is that they are kind of unbeatable, but to get there you need go calibrate them correctly for color and utilize all the settings they provide. A lot of people don't like BFI, but I think it's because they haven't used Sony's latest BFI. Motion is extremely clear and they have a software solution now that compensates for lost brightness. The AI upscaling stuff works very well and isn't another sharpening filter. Likewise, the gradation smoothing is very good.
For home use you can find a beautiful balance between absolute accuracy and processing enhancement that truly enhances in a subtle and effective way rather than butchering the image.
Care has gone into all of those processing options in a way that really shows once you dig into calibration and setting up the picture. I really don't think you'll find a better home theater display than a Sony master series OLED.
I have a Sony A80J. In my experience the BFI has the same loss of brightness and SOE as any other brand. I'm very happy with the TV but I haven't experienced the "software solution that compensates for lost brightness" that you refer to. I keep BFI at the lowest setting.
@@jimv1983 It is subtle, but what I'm referring to is that Sony BFI on the lowest setting, and I believe this is branded as their "x-motion clarity plus" or something similar, it will apply BFI selectively to darker areas of the screen. This leads to a bit less loss of brightness compared to the 2 and 3 level BFI settings, where like on 2 BFI is applied the same to the entire image and on 3 it's a slower flicker so is even more noticeable.
It's not a huge difference but I can tell. Definitely a matter of taste whether you like it still.
@@sleepstar44 I looked at TVs from several different brands and even on the lowest setting the Sony BFI wasn't really any different than other manufacturers. 🤷♂️
@@jimv1983 That's fair, maybe it's marketing, I believe I can tell the difference between x-motion clarity settings 1 / 2 on the sony displays and that's mostly what I'm talking about since 2 applies a traditional BFI without using the "dimming zones" etc. You retain a little brightness by setting it to 1. It's possible LG does something similar now but I'm not aware of it.
Guess we should just say YMMV with this stuff 👍
Your content is great ! Cheers Brother :D
I don't like paying extra for premium and then wait for updates, that happened with Dolby vision then 4k/120hz then VRR, and on top of that sometimes those updates need additional updates to work properly. If Im paying premium I expect everything included like LG does.
I agree 💯💯💯 with you Joel
But the Sony is a lot better. I own the a80j and the LG are a joke compared to it. And for real. Don't look at fanboys UA-cam videos. Go and use them yourself. The Sony is a lot better in both sdr and HDR. Tone mapping and upscaling are a killer. My a80j has ni absl using it either. I just turn on pixel shift. The contrast and color is calibrated to perfection. I can add 120 nits more by service menu white balance and 20 point tweak. The materials are way more premium than LGs plastic. Sony is just better, that's the reason of the price increase.
Don't buy a product with "upcoming over update" features that you want to use right away. Buy the product for what it can offer you now.
I bought sony XF90 over XE90 because it was better in every way but also bought it because of the dolby vision support. Yes I waited half a year for it but it did not matter as back in 2018 there were barely any movies/shows with dolby vision so I rolled the dice.
But in 2022 I probably wouldn't have gone for sony if it had "to be updated via firmware" as dolby vision is readily available. Same goes for other features.
But mostly I'd gladly give sony tax because their TVs have better processing, higher picture quality and better QC.
@@AI_HDR I don't doubt it.
I agree.
I choose a sony a8h over the lg cx because
-I prefer android tv over web os
-picture calibration out of the box was better on sony
-I really like surface acoustic audio
LG CX has a rough menu sure however
-LGCX looks way better after a couple of tweaks
-I don't really think either of them hold a candle to the audio quality of even a low budget sound system
Great job getting the history of the price hike right. I bought my first Sony TV a week before the CEO made the prices double. Boy was I happy.
the Sony z9d and x940E both hit contrast levels that are hardly approached today with LCD screens. very unique displays in their time.
I'm still sitting with my 930e, very easy to be patient while I wait for an ACTUAL upgrade
I Have a z9d, 65 in. I love watching this tv , does anyone know which model with master back light tech, compares in the 2022 line up? I am researching to replace our theater room screen with a large screen tv. however i am not in love with oled dark scenes, too dark for my eyesight . can anyone give me some help on the new sony line up. I love the z9d clarity and so forth when watching movies in my living room, Theater room is much darker of course, I really liked how digital trends explained sony's tv line up for 2021, I dont see a clear breakdown in the 2022 line up, it seems disjointed to me. Thank you for any help, Caleb note to how your explaining this yrs sony line up, its confusing a bit. new tech needs to be seperated from old tech for us older people just a bit.Thank you for all your hard work.
Don't forget DTS support. Only Sony can give you this, and being able to play my movies from my plex server without transcoding the audio matters a lot to me
Samsung pisses me off bad not supporting DTS. They have DTS support in some of their sound bars but don't support it through their TV's? It's about as stupid as an LG TV being more compatible with a PS5 than a Sony tv 🤦🏻♂️
@@mrbungle589 maybe in the next gen, dont their newer tvs have atmos?
I love the way that my Bravia TVs function with all my connected devices. If I push the ps button on my ps5 controller, the ps5 comes on, as does the tv, the sound system, and it auto switches to the correct video/sound settings for gaming and the correct hdmi feed
I purchased a 65" xr65a80k this black Friday. It made my 55" sony TV look like a kids TV lol. I put that one in my bedroom to replace my 46" insignia. Moving from a 1080i insignia to a 4k 55" Bravia is simply stunning 😍
yep, thats called ARC and it came out in most midrange TV's in like 2016 or around there. My 2017 KU6500 or something of that number did that . as for stuff you didn't mention, i cant comment on thats probably more OS oriented.
@@d3tach3d it's not ARC that does it, as my ps4 in the bedroom will switch from the direct TV hdmi to the psr hdmi connection just by turning it on. There is no ARC involved with the upstairs setup
@@moonscar119 That's common for tv's. It's just CEC.
Is it a good idea to invest in a SONYX90J in 2022?user profile PS5, movies n sports
Sold my c9 . Moved to florida and just got the a80j. Im impressed by the sound. Google tv platform. And the tv looks amazing. And my series x has vrr!
I just got a 75 inch XR90J from Costco for $900.00 ( floor model , no box) but with 5 year warranty. Last time Best Buy had them for $1988.00. I this it's a good deal!
Wow you stold that thing. Congratulations
Great Tv for the money to.
we dont have such deals....come to Europe, you will double,
@@tadejdanev5030 that's such a shame. I'd wanna relocate
@@michaeldavis6550 i'll apply for green pass :)
I got 2 77" A80J this year alone, one back in Nov at $3000 for my parents, and another one last week at $2500 for myself. Returned my C1 because it wasn't as impressive as the A80J. Plus my 🏠 is multilingual, the A80J can understand English, German and Vietnam right out of the box, one after another and sometime even in the same sentence. C1 can't do this for some reason.
Yep on Black Friday got the 65" A80J for $1799 and it was the same price as the LG C1 65" and it is a better TV for TV and Movies because of the Upscaling. Gaming LG C1 is better option in most cases because of the 4 HDMI 2.1 Ports and Game Feature Setting in Setup.
I got that & always buys from Costco, Costco always got GREAT prices with AWESOME warranty ON their TVS & Electronics👍👌
@The truth true as I recently got my 77" A80CJ from there as well for $2,300 after GC. The only thing is that the warranty doesn't cover burn-in tho.
Btw the price is now $2,600 without GC. I requested for a price adjustment recently so I'll see how they goes. It's possible that I might be getting it for only $2,100 which would be crazy.
@DigitalTrends is there going to be qd oled that has accurate colors and the s95b’s gaming features?
I just bought an “open box” (display model) 75” Sony X90K that seems flawless! However I’m having trouble getting picture settings saved. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
I have a Sony 4K TV in my living room and it's great! I poured weeks into the decision to go with Sony, going over specs, features, needs, compatibility, OS, and prices. TBH, I went with Sony over other Android-based TVs like TCL or Hisense because of name recognition gave it a slight edge for me.
i hear you man, it took me 3 weeks worth of research till i made the decision to pick up a SONY tv, and no regrets man i love it.
I got a Sony TV for $450 in 2018 and like the thing a lot, only regret not getting one with Android/Google TV OS on it. The one I have has a few in built apps but lacks newer apps.
Meanwhile my tcl 65r515 at $425 three years ago 👁 👄 👁 dolby vision, apple tv hooked up, plex server with blu rays, godlike setup
@@joeykeilholz925 you can do a plex server and apple TV on a Sony as well
@@AtulKedia, I got an LG 4K about 5 years ago and have regretted it,. The apps available are non-existent really. Want Canadian streaming apps? Nope. No CTV, CBC GEM, Crave, etc. Only the USican apps have ever been available to us/me. I now have a great Android TV. set. Slight flaws but much less because the Play Store is available. I can even run DSLR Dashboard, Zoom, etc on my TV by sideloading.
The Sony A90J 83 inch will be my first time diving into OLED, I did my research, and waited for the price drop (I was strongly considering the LG C2 but the A90J was the same price at the time I bought it and that sold the TV for me) and am beyond excited for next week when the TV is delivered and set up by Best Buy,
Same price ya but brand new? It's not worth the thousands more for slightly better pq
@@ShakeNbake9106 slightly ????? 🤣🤣🤣 good joke man
@@LEMON48 yes slightly...I've watched videos. It is not worth the extra thousand + dollars
My father bought it when it first came out lol its amazing but was spendy af. 🤦♂️🤣
some of the processing is better on LG and Samsung... Sony is not king of processing any more... also their motion handling is horrible at times and their coating is a mess
Hey. Can you make a video of what kinds of TV:s do you recommend at certain price breakpoints?
Have 12 year old Bravia LCD running on retail. Still running perfect?
Great Video, thanks! I also believe that the reliability must be taken into account at the time considering a purchase. I used to be a Sony Employee some time ago and the reliability implemented during the design stage of the TVs was much more stringent than the competitors. Not everything is picture quality...
My friend still has my 16yo Sony LCD going strong. His Samsung TV started going out after 4 or 5 years.
I have a buddy that owns an electronics store that sells and services audio equipment. They sell Sony, LG and Samsung. Their store stopped selling any of the cheaper brands that are usually carried by the Walmart's and whatnot because of quality. They now only sell the brands that they think are good enough with quality so they don't have a bunch of ticked off clients because their tvs went to crap after a little over a year, or out of their warranty period. They like the 3 brands they sell but without question the brand they see the least amount of quality issues with is Sony. So just because some of the brands look really nice for what you pay for these things you do somewhat get what you pay for. I am happy paying a little more for my Sony tvs and not having to worry about them going bad and having to buy a new one every other year. You do get what you pay for. But everyone has their own ideas of what they like and think is good. If you want to keep for awhile seeing what he gets into his store with problems, buy a little bit better tv from one of the 3 big brands.
unfortunately, I haven't had the same experience.... sony products have failed me time and time again and it's actually LG and Samsung that have been more consistent
@@jenvogue5005 again talking more rubbish you have never owned Sony in you’re life apparently all you get is Samsung according to other comments make your mind up dude ?
Great video I have a question I have a Samsung q70R 65 inch and I got in to the secret menu and I don’t know what did and the blacks are very black the picture looks more darker thanks I really appreciate it thanks
What android 43inch tv would you recommend.
I was looking into the x75 sony
Good, honest video Caleb. I can only add that when speaking of "Creators intention" and a few bucks more for it, Sony is actually talking about massive movie, music and gaming experience. I'm talking about Columbia pictures and working with many expert director's such is James Cameron on Avatar sequels at the moment, Sony music and many recognized authors, Sony PlayStation and, well many, many no1 selling games. So when talking about "Creators intention" and "Lens to living room" Sony is actually talking about company experience in ability to provide emotions through technology. 😀
How much are they paying you? 🤣
@@devan_danger Not nearly as You would think 😆
I still have my 32inch Sony LCD TV I bought brand new over 15 years ago and remarkably it's still going even with ongoing use every day 😅
Question,
Is my sony A8G 65inch oled still in the top tier or shell out another $3,000 for another Sony Oled Monitor? I am hoping 2 more yrs and buy another? Thank you.
Also, I purchased my A8G watching your video's!!
I purchased a Sony xbr55x850d in 2016 December and its still going strong it has over 15k hours, found a xbr55x850c which was the year beforehand and still had 3d on Facebook marketplace for $400 and only had 8k hours. I love both the TVs and wouldn't trade them for anything. Except maybe a z9d 😃
I think audio was forgotten here as well as the remotes.
To me the Sony remotes are just about the best in the business, with Bang & Olufsen being the only other TV maker beating them (although by some margin). And I think the acoustic surface system Sony brings is ace, it allows for some very clean looking TV's and good sound.
So the acoustic surface tech is as good as they say? My X850D has pretty crappy speakers, so hopefully it’s a worthy upgrade.
@@Jackp2003 I find that with it there is no need for a soundbar, but I can't say if it is a match for like a multi speaker setup only I don't think anything can beat that.
Also not every TV is created equal and it seem Sony also keeps improving on their tech, mine is a 65" A90J and I imagine a newer and/bigger TV will have even better sound and older/smaller may be a bit behind.
@@bzdtemp Ah, I see. And congrats on having an A90J, hear it’s marvelous.
@@Jackp2003 X850D like entry level 4K TV 4th gen in 2016 still better LG and Samsung entry level models
I've had an LG but sold it to get a similar sony oled. I prefer the Google integration, settings interface and the way it works with other hdmi devices (the source menu I mean) in other words it's a far better software experience imo. Also one very important feature that I miss on other brands is the ability to turn of the panel but leave everything else on. This allows me when I'm listening to music and its a static scene to turn off the panel to safe its life and prevent burnin
7 months later do you feel you’ve made the right decision? I’ve had 2 different LG TV’s in the past 10 years and not sure if I should stick with them
should i go for sony x74/x75 or samsung the frame 43 inch qled-help !!!
Good content!
Sony has a great track record when it comes to quality control.
In the TV market they are indeed never first, but their products are in most ways better than the competition, not by much, but combined with said quality control they have gotten away with charging a premium.
Last year I got a Sony A80J, the competition was a LG C1, I paid a couple of hundred in premium.
Most people online would have said go with the C1, but the upscaling processing on the Sony is what got me to pay said premium.
On native 4k content there isn't much of a difference, but the C1 appears to obtain a "lag" when upscaling, meaning it feels slower, less accurate and at times even blurrier.
I'm sure as years go by the gap will close and most content will be native 4k, but as of right now, it's a big difference to me.
Well worth the premium imo, no regrets (even with QD-OLED releasing)
With their reliance on the Playstation brand it's kind of shocking that they are so slow to implement gaming features.
Have preferred Sony TV's since the early 2000's. Completely satisfied with my current Sony budget 4K TV.
What model?
@@talandelana6873 - 43" X80J
Wow. 43 is so small. I'm looking for a 65
@@talandelana6873 - My house is small so it works well.
Dear DT, I just bought A80J 65 inch, and It is too dark for me.
Tempting to swipe it for Samsung s95b right now, but also want to see A95K out.
Do you think Sony will worth an extra 1K?
Finally someone answered my question. Here in India all multi-brand stores tend to push LG over any other brand, due to higher margins, no matter the product is worst from LG, still they will sell to customers.
Purchased a Sony Bravia 75 inch TV for over $3k. 1.5 years later and a green line on the screen appeared. Sony told me nothing to be done as it’s a panel issue and they only warranty their televisions for one year.
Not the quality I was expecting.
Was it LCD or Oled?
Ours is a house divided. Having both brand 65” OLEDs, this years LG C2 vs last years Sony A80J is really a close call. Sony may get their OLED panels from LG, but Sony is substantially better out of the box for colors with superior processing chips. The LG C2 OLED TVs are really great, but colors are not as balanced. Sony gets it right automatically no matter what the source and then factor the remote, Google Home Screen and settings are better.
Some of the issue may be cultural change. I’m older and in general a Japanese fanboy, but kids are into gaming and like Korean brands more. Korea has a lot of soft-power in the culture these days and some great products. We have a lot of debate between Lexus vs Genesis at home. I wonder if the Japanese are going to age out as my generation retires. We were just discussing TVs right ?
100% agree with you. I’m a Gen Xer that grew up with Japanese products being the pinnacle. I’ve had Sony tvs most of my life. Never had a problem with them. Some tvs lasted well over 20 years. Only reason I don’t have them anymore is because flat panel tvs became a thing. I still use the 1st Sony flat panel tv that we purchased over 20 years ago. Last tv I purchased was a top of the line Samsung about 10 years ago. Within the 1st year, blown speaker. I never have the tv loud. Ended up having to buy a sound bar just so I don’t have to hear the crackling of the tv speaker. I had a LG refrigerator…every few months I had to call the repairman. I’m done with Korean products. Currently in the market for a new tv and I’m going back to a Sony. I keep seeing commenters say “it’s not worth the extra money.” Yes it is.
2 of my friends bought Hyundais (a Sonata and I think the other was an Excel) 30 years ago. Those things were POS. However the Hyundais of today aren’t the same as they were 30 years ago. It’s nice to see the improvement in the brand. If I ever were to buy an Asian vehicle, I would go back to Japanese cars though…like you said, it’s probably a generational or cultural thing.
Korea is the new Japan.
Japanese cars used to suck. Then they were great. And now they are meh.
Excellent video Caleb
I'm looking at a Sony 65 inch X75K LED 4K Ultra HD HDR Smart Google TV. Do you know if this TV (or Sony TV's) looks good in a bright room?
I had a Sony Bravia (can't remember the exact model) for 9 years and it still works just fine. Got a new Samsung tv in December and replaced it twice already due to dead pixel lines appearing
I feel you bro. Same problem here
I had clouding all over the screen went to the store again and they say thats normal for a samsung tv. Now having a LG tv and no problems.
For me, Sony has always been the goto brand, especially for TVs. I find Samsung TV's colours too oversaturated, and they just don't have that finesse in picture quality. I have been a big fan of the brand and I mostly bought a Sony if it was available in that category.
Samsung TV's look more vibrant and pop more while Sony TV's look too dull , I prefer Samsung personally
Darío, considering that you are paid to talk about Korean products, your credibility is anything but respectable.
Dull what? Better focus on how to justify how a disgusting company like Samsung can sort of the lies about their Exynos processors, performance of battery problems. Then try to think about the technologies they use, that absolutely everything came from Sony first.
Respect yourself, seriously.
There is really no such thing as "oversatured colours" -- in this context -- but there is such a thing as an [uncalibrated] TV you can't even really calibrate well -- meaning if you try to get the TV to show the colours according to some standard colour space (Rec. 709 or Rec 2020) for the signal it is asked to display, it may show one colour correctly, at the expense of a lot of other colours. The TV you buy isn't calibrated at the factory, and in fact the opposite may as well be true -- the TV is designed to woo and awe you as potential buyer in the store room, set to some "Vivid" colour profile where you feel like you're going to get colour therapy in your living room if you buy it. The reality is, 99% of content we watch at home is designed for "normal" colours, and that's where uncalibrated TVs or those which don't have regular panel response, appear more like your date turning out insane when you bring them home.
What you want is a "calibratable" TV with a large enough colour volume. And you have _zero_ chance to assess these qualities in the shop. Most shops don't let you play around with TVs like that, and you can't, at any rate, bring your calibration equipment there.
I bought a Philips TV that was great on paper -- had good colour volume (decent coverage of the [HDR] Rec 2020 colour space, for instance) , but after repeated calibration attempts it turned out the TV was a "fake" that was sold as premium.
Anyway, sorry for the wall of text -- your TV doesn't show you its true colours if you don't calibrate it. You won't see them unless you set it to show them, and that's done with calibration. Or you will see some of them but at the expense of "skin tones" and shadow detail. Heed my advice :)
Agreed I have always said it looks like Samsung's are drawn with crayons whereas Sony images are drawn with art pencils. Loose so much image definition on Samsung as colours blow out the details. The image movement with Sony is streets ahead with how natural the motion looks as well.
Panasonic oled is better in image quality than sony. Sony is just behind
My 32 inch tv from 2012 still works well
It has amazing sound
Still running an XBR8 in good condition (these days less). Sonys first and only build true RGB-LED TV (It had 2 green, one blue and one red LED per cluster) with local dimming from the year 2008. Where the marketing name Triluminos came from. Of course it came with 120HZ true 10 Bit Panel. The only thing that is missing: Smart Connection and 4k. It was and still is an awesome TV.
Gave it a FireTV Stick recently, voila now it's a Smart TV as well.
That TV is now nearly 15 years old.
Bought a Sony 65 inch 2 years ago. I was also looking at HiSense and TCL. Both of those seemed better on specs, but there seemed to be a lot of variability in terms of screen quality, and I did not want to have to exchange until I got a good one.
A90J 65'' and HT-A9 with SW 5 is premium enough for me.
A95K with HT A9
Same for me it's the best combo
I've always been a Sony TV fan, back to the days of the original Trinitron, and through my first XBR set (which I still use everyday, being a 1080p LCD), only sprinkled by a couple of Panasonics (which were absolutely awesome sets too).
I'm looking to replace that old XBR 52" with a new Sony hopefully this year, but pricing is all over the place. I'm also on the fence between 65" and 77", since the jump in price seems pretty steep from size to the next up. Oh well, I'm in no rush...
I just bought the Sony 65 inch X90K model and man this TV is a beauty, the colors are so beautiful and the screen is so bright, so far so good!
I was looking to buy the 65” X95J when it was on sale for $2K Cad but wanted to wait for the X95K. It seems the launch price will be substantially higher at $3,600 CAD… I hope the mini-LED and master drive is worth it.
Jumped on that deal. The x95j is fantastic
probably not with their horrible coating... sony has the worst coating of the top three premium tv makers
@@fquen I kinda regret that I didn't...
@@jenvogue5005 Sony has the best coatings. You keep saying "horrible" without any science or facts. Just Get OUT!
I would love to see Sony get back into making computers. The VAIO brand was awesome, just too expensive. If they can bring VAIO back without being ridiculously expensive vs other prebuilts using the same parts, they would kill the market especially since a lot of prebuilts now are very "ricer" designed (ricer = flashy car that doesn't have any performance) their sleek design would really fit the bill for the majority of people out there who dont want flashy RGB computers. With that in mind, they could bring us gaming monitors with that sleek design (which would be epic) as we would then get raw performance. The fastest display technology with amazing image quality with that instant pixel response of OLED and instant input lag from being a computer monitor. Sony could do so much, they just need someone with the "dream" to push the company forward. One mistake is that they keep focusing on wireless headphones lately. There hasn't been a new wired headphone in a long time. The Z1R headphones (flagship) and Z2M2 came out like 3-4 years ago! We have had nothing since. I love my Z7M2 headphones (can't afford Z1R) and would love to see what new designs they come up with down the road. But again, they keep focusing on wireless which doesn't tickle my pickle. Generally wireless headphones aren't loud enough for me. I am not deaf, I just prefer my music really really loud.
On the TV side of things, I can't wait to see how their QD-OLED flagship does performance wise and quality wise. Gonna be awesome. I love my Alienware AW3423DW, been watching 4k UHD movies non stop because it looks so damn good.
I think the problem with VAIO was more trying to push for their closed ecosystem (memorystick etc) than the pricing.
@@xmaverickhunterkx both were issues. If they came back simply as a premium brand with fair pricing and common sense design they could dominate the market
@@goblinphreak2132they did and failed
VAIO was great as were Xperia tablets
I recall their ultra books resembled MacAir laptops.
My xh95 65 inch still going good I did have a Samsung mu7000 55 inch TV that got mark on screen after a year. the xh95 is the longest I have had a tv for some time hope it lasts the full 4 years as still has a warranty.
Is the A75K coming to the U.S. market?