Meet The Hizen! Tier 8 Japanese Battleship (World of Warships Legends)

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  • @gabrielgaitan4856
    @gabrielgaitan4856 Рік тому +4

    Hizen (He-zen), together with her sister ship Iwami, in WOWS, are based on two of the preliminary A-140 designs that lead to the Yamato-class battleships. She gets the general armament and hull design of the A-140-J3 with four main battery turrets in AB-XY configuration for the main battery and then three triple 155 mm secondary turrets around the Y turret. However, she gets the main armament of twelve 410mm main guns installed on 4 triple turrets.
    According to the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922, the ratio of battleship fleets of the U.S.; Great Britain; and Japan was fixed at 15:15:9 units respectively. Being unable to achieve numerical superiority over their possible adversaries, the Japanese admirals staked their plans on the qualitative superiority of their ships in accordance with their Kantai Kessen or “decisive battle" doctrine.
    The doctrine presupposed that the outcome of a war would be decided after the main enemy forces had been defeated in a general engagement of battleship fleets. Confidence in the success of this plan was based on their experience of previous wars, including the Russo-Japanese War. Admiral Yamamoto Isoroku, and other high-ranking officers who opposed the idea of placing faith in battleships in the future war, found themselves outnumbered both militarily and politically.
    The Japanese High Command expected that their "super-battleship" would surpass all the existing counterparts in terms of firepower and survivability. The first projects for a ship like this were prepared in the late 1920s. All of them surpassed the treaty displacement of 35,000 tons, and had powerful armor and gun calibers that varied in size from 410 to 510 mm.
    In 1934, the Japanese High Command secretely decided to renounce the treaty's restrictions and develop a project that would definitely be superior to any foreign counterpart. They counted on the assumption that the United States' ability to build battleships would be limited by the width of the Panama Canal.
    One of those projects-A-140J-3-preceded the Yamato-class battleships.

  • @santiagovictor2004
    @santiagovictor2004 Рік тому +7

    I run ARP musashi on hizen, with Cunningham and di revel. Musashi buffs the spotter plane duration, as well as buffs the grouping/dispersion while the spotter plane is in the air

    • @NOVA_PRIME216
      @NOVA_PRIME216 Рік тому +1

      If you can you try using godzilla as inspiration im curious how that will work since godzilla buffs the spotter plane duration so more Salvo per plane plus reduces cool downtime so more planes in the sky faster. I missed out on getting Musashi for commander and so I'm not getting godzilla but I would to know how that setup will work. Please if you can or spartan can please try it out and let me know

    • @ItsDrillz
      @ItsDrillz Рік тому

      @@NOVA_PRIME216 I have both. Either one will cannot give you more than two salvos per plane. All you can get is more time to aim those salvos while the plane is up. (Godzilla must be used as an inspiration since the spotter buff is a base trait while Musashi's spotter duration buff is a row 4 skill.)
      There's only one setup in the game that can add a third salvo in one spotter plane and I believe and its on VII Monarch requiring both reducing it's already fast reload with (maxed 16/4) inspiration di Revel and double buffing the spotter using (12/2+)AL Queen Elizabeth's Sky Watch skill and (16/1+) Godzilla as an inspiration as well.
      ARP Musashi is unique in that it adds more accuracy to the shot than the spotter already includes. I personally use ARP Musashi (13/1) with Godzilla (13/1) and AL Scharnhorst (16/3). This setup yields a 37.6s Spotter plane on Hizen for reference. As a result, I only use this setup on VIII Musashi itself.
      TLDR; Its not as great as it seems. Running Takagi as suggested will be more reliable and fun than running a gimmick spotter setup. Have fun out there!

    • @NOVA_PRIME216
      @NOVA_PRIME216 Рік тому

      @@ItsDrillz thanks that helps out

  • @launcesmechanist9578
    @launcesmechanist9578 Рік тому +5

    Yeah, I noticed this about the traverse. They start turning during the Meiji Restoration Period and finish up about the time of the Russo-Japanese War. 😂
    Has a decent number of secondaries plus some big ones at the rear. Might try to respec for secondaries.
    On the subject of the 32mm deck armor. For those curious, if 32mm can be ANGLED it can protect. However, that deck is flat as a pane of board and will only put up a little more resistance to plunging fire.

    • @SpartanElite43
      @SpartanElite43  Рік тому

      Haha

    • @connertravanini773
      @connertravanini773 Рік тому

      Not worth it on this one, better on Iwami which has the same hull but a bit better armored and three base heals, plus torpedoes.

    • @launcesmechanist9578
      @launcesmechanist9578 Рік тому

      @@connertravanini773 That's my thought as well. Tried to respec it. Result was... less than enthusiastic.

    • @Ranzoe813
      @Ranzoe813 Рік тому

      I think im going fire build using al fuso idk she just sucks😭

  • @AirsoftAlfonse
    @AirsoftAlfonse Рік тому +4

    cool concept, always happy to see more battle ships added to the game, but idk why you would ever play this ship if you have musashi

    • @SpartanElite43
      @SpartanElite43  Рік тому +4

      I dont know why you'd play tier 8 at all tbh

    • @NOVA_PRIME216
      @NOVA_PRIME216 Рік тому +1

      @@SpartanElite43 free commander comadation

  • @ooWxlchyy
    @ooWxlchyy Рік тому +2

    Could argue Spartan you turned into that BB at the start? Great vid GG’s🔥

    • @SpartanElite43
      @SpartanElite43  Рік тому

      Yeah I believe I said that but still gotta give those around you room to maneuver..

  • @Dogwatern00b
    @Dogwatern00b Рік тому +5

    ARP Yamato is worth a look for this ship if you have her.

  • @DeiversonSilveira
    @DeiversonSilveira Рік тому +1

    Thank you very much for sharing your opinions about the ship

    • @SpartanElite43
      @SpartanElite43  Рік тому

      No problem

    • @cameronaries1153
      @cameronaries1153 Рік тому

      Just a small nitpick here SpartanElite43, the Flower decoration on the Bow of Japanese Ships is NOT a Sakura Blossom, it is a Chrysanthemum. The symbol of the Imperial house of Yamato is the Chrysanthemum, and the Throne of the Emperor is called the Chrysanthemum Throne.
      Love your vids, keep up the good work!

  • @mundanebeast
    @mundanebeast Рік тому +1

    As far as the island maneuvers it depends where at in the cap if I take the high side of the island or the low side to create a crossfire

  • @andrewm356
    @andrewm356 Рік тому +3

    Hizen along with Iwami and Izumo is not a yamato class hull, it was one of the designs the Japanesse considered while picking the battleship that would suit their doctrine the best. There are several difrences beetween the Iwami and Yamato hull, Yamato is slightly larger, it has a higher freeboard, Yamatos stearn is significantly thicker and tge whole bow is completely diffrent.

    • @andrewm356
      @andrewm356 Рік тому

      Hizen also has the same accuracy as Maine not kansas but it doesn't get ploting room mod so it feels worse.

  • @bar9501
    @bar9501 Рік тому +1

    I had to watch this vid. I love the tips/opinions that you dole out.

  • @richmc2024
    @richmc2024 Рік тому +1

    😂just got the Hizen today from campaign. Good timing for your vid.

  • @griffen1007
    @griffen1007 Рік тому +1

    So came back to rewatch this aa I could not find a fit between my iwami capt. (Haruna, van hipper, scharnhorst) and my Yama capt. ( Ap Yamato, new jerssy neptune). Seeing the poor gun performance I just tried my Amagi capt. That was the first good fit. Fusa (replaceable for better base trait) the rest is what fixes the shotgun effect; flammaable cannonier, crisscross, marksmanship, reaching out XXL, fire/fire, Queen Elisabeth, Scarnhorst. Then play it like an Amagi. Found this a better fit then trying to fit it into Iwami or Yamato playstyles. Play it like a t8 amagi all accuracy. Good luck.

  • @newjersey1239
    @newjersey1239 Рік тому +2

    I like this build for Hizen but instead Pablo i put sharnhorst. I kid you not I'm consistently getting rail guns after rail guns lol

  • @Ranzoe813
    @Ranzoe813 Рік тому +2

    Having all four tier 8 ijn bb's...shes by far the weakest link. Its a *"we have izumo @ home"*

  • @romallama44
    @romallama44 Рік тому +2

    Japanese Minnesota, slightly less AP alpha/accuracy but better HE to help with bow tanking bbs with saturated superstructure

  • @lillpete64
    @lillpete64 Рік тому +1

    What would you recommend for the USS maine to get her accuracy up to decent because it is not so good...I'm running takag w/ de'revil and ichino...and everything speckled into doing sniper things or at least that was/is the plan....tbc

    • @SpartanElite43
      @SpartanElite43  Рік тому +1

      I run Sims with Scharnhorst and Di Revel

    • @lillpete64
      @lillpete64 Рік тому

      @@SpartanElite43 OK so basically im there the ship is just not accurate in my opinion

  • @unsealednardo9965
    @unsealednardo9965 Рік тому +1

    Is it so hard to drop torps while going after objectives in a destroyer.

  • @DaFreshPotato
    @DaFreshPotato Рік тому +2

    Was waiting for your thoughts on this ship, I don't think it's the Japanese Kansas at all imo due to inconsistency, maybe more like the Minnesota, idk

    • @jaiyuzivert
      @jaiyuzivert Рік тому +1

      Mine has been pretty godly ngl. It’s been like RETARDED accurate

  • @NOVA_PRIME216
    @NOVA_PRIME216 Рік тому +1

    Sir I use madden and fisher on Yamato commander with same upgrade built and I reload 28.6 torrent turn at 31.3 so I sticking with my build

    • @NOVA_PRIME216
      @NOVA_PRIME216 Рік тому

      John madden 16/2 John fisher 12/2 Yamato 16/2 I use the same commander skills except the 4th row I use the trait for extra damage over 10km away

  • @Tbone272
    @Tbone272 Рік тому +1

    Every tier i kept expecting dispersion to get better ... Then i went Tennessee, to North Carolina, to Hizen. I swear it got worse the higher i went. Haven't taken the Kansas out yet cuz I'm broke but my expectations are low af

  • @nicholasharding07
    @nicholasharding07 Рік тому +1

    I am guessing that you don't have ARP Yamato, but if you did I would have suggested her, seeing as how she buffs both gun traverse and accuracy

  • @JohnELPadrino33
    @JohnELPadrino33 Рік тому +1

    Damn, my build has it at 42.9s for the 180 Degree

  • @DOBBYKP1
    @DOBBYKP1 Рік тому +1

    I think its an ok ship i had over 200k damage and was against legendary ships great video Spartan enjoyed it 😎

  • @Mrdjs1133
    @Mrdjs1133 Рік тому +2

    I have an all-out accuracy build because I HATE the trll-shots you occasionally get from the Japanese. The turret traverse is still slow, but ill take it for the ludicrously accurate railguns I get nearly every volley.

    • @alphawolfthepack3417
      @alphawolfthepack3417 Рік тому

      arp musahi with al Scharnhorst im guessing that how you have rail gun for jap ship?

  • @icum220
    @icum220 Рік тому +1

    As a destroyer main, I wouldn't go into the cap either unless you're in team chat and letting me know that you're going to support me. Both destroyers on the red team had sonar.

  • @camrsr5463
    @camrsr5463 Рік тому +2

    so what do you think....is Hizen better than Rebubleak?
    Double grouping build all day! lol you even said that accuracy was important!
    no drill bits and run far-sight I run nothing in slot 4 maybe AA is a good choice

  • @steadyhand_Keel
    @steadyhand_Keel Рік тому +1

    Personally, i run yamato as the commander with Scharnhorst and new jersey

  • @zackbritt7967
    @zackbritt7967 Рік тому +1

    Yeah I’ve played this thing once and I actually enjoy it the thing does slap very solid ship yes it does troll but it’s Japanese you expect that this is something I can play more than once

  • @brianhunter1543
    @brianhunter1543 Рік тому +2

    I think everyone should practice playing cruisers because that will teach you map awareness. You get dev struck enough times you are gonna learn to pay attention to what is around you and who can shoot you before you commit to firing your guns and giving away your position

    • @JPviews1946
      @JPviews1946 Рік тому

      I agree, you also need to play with others who will call you out when mistakes happen it’s a learning process for everyone 👍

  • @lillpete64
    @lillpete64 Рік тому +1

    Constellation is it worth it

  • @Captain_Brian78
    @Captain_Brian78 Рік тому +1

    Yeah, if I have to play a Tier VIII Japanese Battleship it's still going to be Musashi. Like you said, I don't hate Hizen, but she's definitely no Kansas.

  • @gokuismymom8553
    @gokuismymom8553 Рік тому +1

    I had a battleship get me killed in Anchorage yesterday cause he turned into me and pushed me out of my smoke. Nothing I hate more than battleships who sit too close to me.

  • @Zombie-Tog
    @Zombie-Tog Рік тому +1

    Iwami was a better value campaign ship by far imho...at least it has the torps . But like you I'm pretty much done with tier VIII and Lgendary ..unless I fancy taking the Repub out for a spin to cheer myself up.

  • @ivardewit
    @ivardewit Рік тому +1

    yea.. how close are you to the duncaqn?

  • @blmareterrorists
    @blmareterrorists Рік тому +2

    I call it La Fool

  • @williamboots5895
    @williamboots5895 Рік тому +1

    Is anyone elses game lagging. Because its not even my Internet

  • @lukeshepherd8689
    @lukeshepherd8689 Рік тому +1

    Glad you didnt put a video of yesterdays match up tried to brawl you in a bismarck my team knew who you were and avoided you 😂

  • @asvmanseesit7352
    @asvmanseesit7352 Рік тому +1

    Love your chanil......but I have one request and one critical comint first you need a UAD in the middle of the week and weekend and ther is a shocking lack of FUSO content...... PS please excuse my spelling.

  • @g.s.c.7
    @g.s.c.7 Рік тому +1

    Spartan I have just watched a game of you that was posted 3 years ago.... But there were tanks involved! Why aren't you playing world of tanks anymore?

  • @Cpeggs89
    @Cpeggs89 Рік тому +1

    Look at that I was in your game on accident but on the other team We got slammed 😢

  • @JPviews1946
    @JPviews1946 Рік тому +1

    Talks about the dd, what’s he supposed to do go challenge the cap and get radared and shot at by 4 boats 😂

    • @SpartanElite43
      @SpartanElite43  Рік тому

      I'd already killed the biggest threat to him... there was no radar

    • @JPviews1946
      @JPviews1946 Рік тому

      @@SpartanElite43brother the Missouri has radar 🤦‍♂️

    • @JPviews1946
      @JPviews1946 Рік тому

      @@SpartanElite4320:41 the DD is in the correct spot by not allowing their dd to flank you out wide and also being able to torp and a better angle than just straight up pushing a cap. This is the difference between a 45% winrate and a 70% winrate. I actually enjoy the things you post because of the matches you play and the amount of mistakes I watch 😂

  • @YuiShikishima
    @YuiShikishima Рік тому +1

    Ele pronunciando o Mikhail Kedrov foi engraçado kk.
    Boa tentativa 👍

  • @deathx1030
    @deathx1030 Рік тому +1

    I think this thing is better than Awani better guns and accuracy

  • @xride64
    @xride64 Рік тому +1

    A New Japanese shotgun....

  • @tylermcmillion3576
    @tylermcmillion3576 Рік тому +1

    Hi Zen not His En love the vids but please get the names of the ships your playing right

  • @Altir-135
    @Altir-135 Рік тому +1

    Ah yes, I think I encountered you on a game while you were testing it Spartan. But I will agree, Hizen is kinda trash with the aiming, she is no Kansas. But there is some potential with her if she gets buffed.

  • @BMfins
    @BMfins Рік тому +1

    So dumb that no ships can have good AA unless they are American.
    Have you thought about using the new ARP Yamato commander she has gun traverse and dispersion combo inspiration.
    But main thing this ship is missing to make it competitive is the heals 2 small heals with the low health pool makes this ship not really competitive.

  • @lucian11111
    @lucian11111 Рік тому +2

    I played the ship maybe 4 times before i decided i don’t like it. I think it was a pretty bad captain ship overall.

  • @samutommimarchetti
    @samutommimarchetti Рік тому +1

    Hi

  • @ayoub6977
    @ayoub6977 Рік тому +1

    LA FORD 😂😂😂

  • @samirr7181
    @samirr7181 Рік тому +19

    Its literally your fault. You ran into him, like seriously.

    • @Icylist
      @Icylist Рік тому +1

      Yeah, sure, he went into him, but the guy was hugging Spartans ship

    • @iangandon922
      @iangandon922 Рік тому +7

      Both of em had the same problem, they thought the other one would turn away... never rely on your team mates to do anything

    • @SpartanElite43
      @SpartanElite43  Рік тому +9

      I believe I said that in the video but you gotta give folks room to maneuver I try to turn away to angle and he's in the way I can't dodge him at that point.
      In this instance it didn't matter but it is frustrating to try and avoid damage only to run into a teammate and take damage because of it

    • @Icylist
      @Icylist Рік тому +1

      @SpartanElite43 Especially in a Hizen best turned away

    • @saimahussain3716
      @saimahussain3716 Рік тому +3

      ​@@SpartanElite43can you do a fletcher video

  • @alexanderkarl1344
    @alexanderkarl1344 Рік тому +1

    Japanese Kansas but with worse matchmaking. It's ight, cooler then Iwami so that's a plus.

  • @nepu6538
    @nepu6538 Рік тому +1

    🇺🇲🇩🇪👌

  • @CLOSINGBRO1
    @CLOSINGBRO1 Рік тому +2

    2st

  • @Minixsman
    @Minixsman Рік тому +1

    1st

  • @dudehi3317
    @dudehi3317 Рік тому +1

    Lmao yea this thing is so underwhelming