The FATE of Dr. Eggman! | Sonic Speed Reading
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- In this video we finally discover what happened to Eggman after the events of Sonic Forces (in the IDW Sonic series.) FULL SPOILERS AHEAD!
This story presents a challenge moral issue and yet another battle between Sonic and Shadow! Where do YOU land on the debate?
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Hearing him talk about hitler while E.G.G.M.A.N. played in the background was quite the surreal experience
lmao
Not the strangest musical accompaniment I’ve heard when it comes to that guy
_I aM tHE EGgMan_
Now just imagine if the nazis had access to doctor eggman tech.
Last I heard of Nazis and Robotnik being talked about in the same sentence, it was about Ken Penders rewriting a Holocaust poem to be about the Sonic universe.
Man... the whole Tinker arc was really interesting. The effects it has on the comics afterwards is great, can't wait for the next episode!
I was going to ask how you managed to time travel and leave a comment yesterday for video that went up a few minutes ago, then realized it’s probably one of the Patreon or other supporter bonuses that come from having the means and inclination to fund such wonderful content...
For that I thank you.
Facts
@@MungkaeX no
@@xnortheast1106 what do you mean “No”?
Where do you suggest viewer like myself, look for the start of this Arc?
I'd like to have more context for the misadventures of "imposter syndrome"🤔😏
Personally, what I would’ve done in this situation is sat Tinker down in an empty room and just... talked. Try to explain things a little bit at a time, leave room for any questions he wanted to ask, and put the decision in his hands. If Tinker ends up choosing to go back to his old ways, memories or no, then that proves that it was basically inevitable. If he freely turns himself in, then at least it’s his choice and an informed one at that. And if he goes back to trying to do good, he hopefully does so with the added motivation to make up for his past wrongs.
Of course, that also brings up the question of whether it’s right to tell him the truth when he may very well regret hearing you out afterwards... ^^;
I feel you have the best idea
@@skibot9974 agreed.
his memory didn't come back until Metal showed up, so, you have some leeway
Absolutely agreed. Educate him, and give him the full truth about who he was, what he used to do, how he used to do it, and lay it all out there for him. Give him the chance to either commit to staying as the friendly Mr. Tinker, or reverting to his old ways, but if he does revert, he's doing it _on our terms_ in a scenario where we can stop him before he gets anything started.
And if he does stay Mr. Tinker, he's doing so in full knowledge of who he was, and the things he's done, and probably appropriately horrified to boot. That way, even if the proper memories themselves flood back, his old personality now has to contend with that horror he feels toward his old self's actions. Bonus points if there is an opportunity to let Mr. Tinker help with thwarting a threat arisen from some old assets of Eggman's. Makes me wonder if/what Mr. Tinker might have been able/willing to contribute to the efforts against Neo Metal Sonic.
As it is, no one ever really told him what the deal was with Eggman, or his history, they simply let him remain ignorant. Which meant when the memories returned, there was no opposition from Mr. Tinker. Tinker had been told that Eggman was an evil genius that made a lot of people afraid, and that was all he knew - and so, he was afraid of this mysterious Eggman too, and when Starline started trying to turn him back, he expressed that he didn't want to be Eggman... but he didn't really understand _why_ beyond a general idea from everyone that he was bad. Then he remembered it all, and there was no existing horror or feelings of repentance or anything of the sort to give him any reason to _not_ just immediately go "Wait, yes, I remember now, that's what I was doing, well, let's get back to it!" If anything, it opened the possibility for Mr. Tinker to even perhaps feel upset with the heroes for not telling him the truth about who he used to be, further incentivizing his return to being Eggman.
The story (and the video) deals with the question of whether an innocent man should be punished for Eggman's crimes - the idea of executing a man for crimes he committed but doesn't remember is a controversial one at best. But in a situation like that, perhaps allowing the man to learn what he's done, and be _horrified_ by it all might be the closest you come to executing the man he used to be. Complete prevention might not be possible, but making the new personality aware, horrified, and repentant for the things his old self did is about as close as you can come. Even when memories return, the new man has incentive to reject his old personality and his old identity, because the man he is _now_ despises what he did before. If you can get that to stick? Eggman is dead - and compassion and learning is what killed him.
I think this is the perfect example to how do Sonic vs Shadow right. Don't make Shadow into a bad guy again, give him a different, less "stereotipical good guy" idea on how to do good.
Or hell, just play up that they enjoy competing with each other. Shadow passes down his title of Ultimate Lifeform to Sonic at the end of SA2 so he competes with Sonic to test himself against who he believes to be the best.
@@jouheikisaragi6075 That could work too
@@jouheikisaragi6075
agreed; i dont like it when shadow is turned into a bootleg vegeta. just some competition would be nice
The concept of Mr Tinker felt underused. It would've been cool to see it play out longer than a couple issues.
Who knows? Eggman wasn't exactly against the whole idea of Mr.Tinker. Maybe it might appear in future issues.
@@acehardware2823
He wasn't against the idea you say... The jackass literally attacked with the metal virus the village as a reward
@@karlamunozcr True, but he later admitted to Sonic that his life as Mr Tinker was relaxing.
He's too pure
Yeah
That bat boob signal joke was pretty funny.
but the biggest problem i had with this arc is the same problem all comics have.
It wont last, the status quo will it MUST return.
There will always be a fake out.
Wow, Sonic comics! Your mom lets you have TWO Eggmen?!
I mean, if they acknowledged Blaze then maybe Eggman Nega would appear too 👀
@@therealfigu Eggman Nega is under mandate crap, he will come back only if sega wants him to
Mr.Tinker needs to protected at all cost and I hope he stays this way.
uhhhhh we got bad news
@@jackslater8573 very very bad
Bad news? Nah, we got WORSE news.
Wanted to see this play out longer.
It's such an interesting arc to eggman that I feel could have lasted longer to make it even bigger than it was.
Shadow the hedgehog gets some interesting parts in this comic.
When he goes to unalive the good doctor sonic stops him and explains that even though eggman has done a whole lot of bad that he's still not beyond saving.
Just like shadow.
Shadow was going to destroy the entire planet and probably has killed a lot of people along with making infinite a true villain.
Still shadow wasn't beyond saving.
Wouldn't it be the same for the good doctor?
Yeah I would have liked one more comic to flesh mr tinker out
I always see you
Y'know, when Shadow says "Losing one's memory doesn't make them any less dangerous" he's speaking ENTIRELY from personal experience.
*sees unalive* i see u too are a man of culture
Can't blame Shadow for Infinite. He was just doing his job
I honestly wonder if wiping Robotnik's memory would actually make him a normal person in reality. Robotnik's past behaviours indicate he is certainly a "psychopath" whom does not have the neural capacity to feel empathy for others. Most people are not able to take pleasure in the death and extreme suffering of others without their mirror neurons activating or showing theory of mind and feeling pain. However a small portion of society does not feel that pain when others suffer. Hitler, Robotnik, and many serial killers can be neurologically wired to be classed as "psychopath."
Perhaps it comes down to the big question in criminal justice of "nature vs nurture." For many less serious criminals we can say nurture plays a big part, but for extreme cases like Robotnik, I'd say nature plays a very big part.
Well that depends on which eggman you r talking about. Archie eggman I believe is a psychopath but canon eggman is not. He just wants to rule the world. The only person he intended to kill was sonic back in adventure 2 ( i know he threatened to kill amy too but if he wanted to he could have and killed tails too as there was nothing stopping him from doing so) and only then and when he thought he did kill sonic he called him "his admirable adversary". Also in adventure 2 when he found out that shadow wanted to destroy the earth, he teamed up with sonic to prevent that from happening. Even in the event of sonic unleashed when eggman released dark gaia and split the earth no one died. He had everything under control for the most part.
@@onthebay15 Let’s not forget about Lost World, too. While he did reluctantly team up with Sonic and Tails to stop the Deadly Six from using his Extractor to destroy their world and become unstoppable, he later showed humility following Tails’s capture. It’s an often overlooked moment, but he says this:
“Tails sacrificed himself for the greater good. Let’s make sure his sacrifice isn’t for nothing.”
Yeah Archie eggman is a complete psychopath he did atrocious and horrific acts like teleporting people to power a city or locking snively in an animal capsule forever or gunning down sally
The problem is that you can teach and make good people do horrible things and murder. Look at the nazis. Soldiers that carried out horrible acts of morbid brutality and terror on civilians. And in war as long as you don't see their faces, it's much easier to kill them. They often justified their crimes by saying they simply followed orders.
"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.“ - Steven Weinberg.
Though my dad responded with: That's for all ideologies.
Meaning religion is no different from nazis, communists, patriotic americans, america first, britain first or any nationality. All beliefs that justify crimes and savagery for the ones preaching and enforcing it.
@@magnusm4 True. According to Milgram's experiment, about 60% can be swayed to do evil anyway. Also, my mistake. I should have specified Archie sonic. Sonic Adventure Eggman and Sonic Boom eggman are muuuch nicer human beings.
9:43 "her heart is in the right place."
Yes! Her chest IS the right place. Finally, someone who says what we're all thinking.
No
This comic has really brought up some really deep points and like super deep concepts I love how this comic isn't afraid to pull it's punches and give out some serious situations I'm a children's comic proving sonic can be placed in a serious situation without it being edgy or tryhard
I don't really know how to feel about. Not because of the comment itself, but your profile picture.
@@MilhSpears It's Jigglypuff bro she's my main in Smash Bros
y u everywhere bro
To me IDW Sonic is better with handing Redemption than Steven universe does he gives it a try with people knows it won't always work but he at least knows when the metal virus happen he mess up but still tries to carry on knowing it won't last
It's ok Eggman is reformed!
Game Apologist: *so anyway I started blasting*
Okay 👏 here’s my take on this storyline: The way they handled it was fine, but the more and more it gets brought up, and the more it gets called into question, the more muddled and complicated it becomes.
Should Sonic kill Eggman? Probably yeah, but he's not gonna, whether it's because he doesn't want to, or SEGA doesn't want him to.
Like you've said before, they're not gonna make Sonic a killer. Shadow maybe, but even then that seems unlikey nowadays.
Besides, I think it's better that we don't call that into question, because Sonic and Eggman's dynamic is fun, and it really feels like these guys rely on each other to have this conflict at all.
Sonic's always eager for the next adventure, and Eggman found a perfect challenge in Sonic, and that drives him to create bigger, badder robots.
One of my favorite lines from (something that isn't even canon) Sonic and Tails R, is when Sonic says "You complete me." because in a way, that's true! One wouldn't exist (at least the way we know them) without the other.
also, in SA2 eggman was helping shadow and rouge!
It's similar to Prime and Megatron. Once Megatron finally (temporarily) was free of Prime, he just lost all motivation because his life revolved around their conflict and without it he's empty.
Honestly I got a feeling even though (spoiler) Mr Tinker is gone, he'll eventually come back in one way or another. Comics have done weirder things then giving an alternate personality a different body. Would be VERY interesting to have an "Eggman" always be ready to help Sonic.
Like What they did with Kintobor’s brainwaves in Fleetway. Without directly being a parallel to get past SEGA restrictions that could work and I’d love to see that.
You may not notice this comment, but I appreciate and admire you man, I used to love sonic, but you made me love it 5x more, never stop being yourself, you may not be as popular as other channels but ever since I watched your video on hyper sonic (my first game apologist video) I've been a fan of your channel, you make me laugh and you talk about sonic in a way no one else can. And sonic Speed reading is an excellent title I feel like you should stick with it. These sonic speed reading videos are some of your shorter videos, but there short and sweet.
1:52
Yes, poor Espio.
He goes through so much fricking bs.
Also, I don't Shadow think Shadow was quite represented accurately, because while I agree that Shadow would not be for Tinker, I don't think they portrayed him quite right.
If this was Sonic 06 Shadow he would’ve been far more calm and collected. Heck, 06 Shadow wouldn’t have fought Sonic period.
Why?
Poor Espio, little did he know Sonic's decisions would end sorta ending Espio's mental health..... *BUT THATS A STORY FOR ANOTHER DAY!!!!!* 😅
If the whole franchise ended with eggman losing his memories and becoming a wholesome village handyman I’d be completely satisfied
5:14 that’s the first time I’ve ever seen eggman with his goggles on
3:36 I'M PISSING ON THE MOON!!!!
13:13 I turned myself into a pickle, Sonic speed readers.
I'm pickle Nick.
That one is nickle pick, its thd opposite of pickle nick
It's a hard choice. Overall, this shows that Eggman had a conscience. His brain actually functions normally, its just his intelligence that gets in the way. His anger, hatred, all of that stuff controls him.
Since he seems to lack actual sociopathic and psychopathic tendencies, because amnesia wouldnt remove those traits.
If he becomes Eggman after being Tinker for a long while, those old memories might stick around. It may not fix his anger, but it might mitigate it to the point where it can be managed. It might cause him to go on some sort of spiritual journey or inner quest to find out just what he is.
This could be for the best, because in reality he shouldnt forget what he has done, the moments he shared and the emotions he felt, with the people here.
Personally, a second chance in my opinion is always warrented. Though he shouldnt escape his punishment either; imagine the person he may become if he wakes up from amnesia in a cell and have months or years of memories of being punished for an unknowable crime only to realize "Even if I am the best I can be, I will be hated and hunted."
He may end out a much more dangerous person, the only real way to fix this would be an execution... and thats a bag of worms I will not get into.
6:50
there it is!! the eggfleet from sonic heroes!
Spoilers (kinda)
This Sonic is overly compassionate on purpose in my opinion. Later on, In issue 19, During the metal virus arc, Shadow tells Sonic that if they had gone Shadow’s way when they met Mr. Tinker, none of this would’ve happened, and Sonic does think about this, and starts having doubts about his decision to let Mr. Tinker live.
Oh yeah it's completely intentional, but it is a noticeable shift from some previous interpretations. Just find it interesting
@@GameApologist I feel like ever since Shadow has debuted, since he's supposed to be Sonic's anti heroic foil, Sonic HAS to be the nice one by comparison, which means making his more negative qualifies less obvious. Which is ironic given that Sonic was originally designed to be something of an antihero himself.
@@sonic5993 He got Mickey Moused
These reminds me of something similar in the Archie comics. A story-line were Eggman cracked (ha) after losing the war, he's taken into custody. And while everyone else all but says out right they would rather kill him or let he rot forever; Sonic humors the mental broken mad man.
Sonic's reasoning? "I guess I move too fast to have time to be all vengeful and stuff. I just do what's right at the time."
I now Ian worked on both, and the IDW is trying to be much deeper, but still think it's good example of the same moral question.
When you think about it, this story dosen't make sense. Yes its true, eggman has not been around since sonic forces ending, but is it worth to say that he lived, somehow lost his memory, (or pretending), and is now a good guy? Seemingly has some grinch themes along with it. But with shadow, he knows about the dangers of eggman and tries to warn sonic. I see how this is going from sonic and shadow's side, but we as the viewers know he will be back and ready to take down sonic and friends. But as the comics take us into a more darker tone after the war, it really does (in my case) leaves us with more questions than answers. So then what will we expect? Does eggman do threaten the town? Does he rise up his new army? Is a new villian finally taking place? Who knows, and btw great speed reading.
Spoilers
I think it's really interesting how when Sonic interrogates Eggman about being Tinker when he gets his memories back, Eggman actually seemed to enjoy and ponder if being Tinker is the better choice.
Shadow’s characterization is still off to me, even though he’s responding fairly reasonably to the whole situation. If this were Shadow from Sonic 06 he would be much more level headed than how he is in this issue.
13:13 And I kid you not, he turns himself into a pickle
He calls himself Pickle Nick
actually, thats not pickle nick, its nickle pick
@@treynobles Funniest sh*t I've ever seen
I wish they could make the Tinker Arc it's own series, it's amazing thinking of all the cool things that could come from it. Maybe not canon but more like a Spider-Man-esc What If? sorta thing.
This whole video got me thinking, What if instead of like excecuting or putting chatacters like Eggman in jail, we take away their memories, make them know their whole ideology and goals, their personality, their entire existance is going to be taken away and deleted and replaced by someone who is better, or in their case "Worse" than they are because its not them anymore, its just a better use for a capable body and mind for a personality that can put it in good use.
Tho i do know that memories are much more complicated than that but hey, food for thought.
Anyways stellar video as usual Nick, an enjoyable view as always! keep up the good work friend!
That is something DC has tackled in stories.
Is that so? sounds like an interesting read
@@alphadeathdust Identity Crisis, my dude! It is a polarizing story, but the concept is interesting
@@GameApologist Im smelling a DC speed reading lol. Jokes aside i'll def give it a read sounds super dope!
That whole line of thought calls into question, "is deleting someone's memories basically killing them?"
The morality is easy if it comes down to "would you rather die or would you rather live a new life with no memories from the old", it's still complicated, but at least there is a chance the person continues on
Morality is harder if that person wasn't going to be executed however, some would say that you are basically killing them without actually killing, while others would argue it's still the same person, just with a blank slate, same natural skills, same muscle memory to do tasks, but without anything from before.
Overall a subject that just goes down the never ending rabbit hole of consciousness
Is it bad that I immediately recognized baby Hitler before it was even mentioned..? It’s funny you post this video(even though this comment is days late) because I had just finished reading this issue just the day before this was uploaded. I’m enjoying both this series, and the direction the comic is going in. So thanks for the recommendation again, Nick.
i would of gone with Moe Howard from the Three Stooges XD
Eggman is a great villain in the IDW comics I'm glad he's more villainous than comedic like in Lost World and forces.
L.A.Studios L.A.Studios Comics Eggman is the definitive Eggman tbh
I think the last Sonic game that captured how cruel he can be is Unleashed. While he isn't the final boss it is clear he's the main villain serving as the catalyst to the game's plot and they really went out of their way to make him a threat with having to defeat him as the stakes are raised. When Sonic is fighting him in the penultimate boss during free fall the music really captures how insane and unhinged he is saying things like "Die you miserable pincushion." Maybe Sonic Frontiers will give us the threatening Robotnik that we long for.
@@warioland523 exactly
13:09 Everyone say it with me "THATS NO GOOD"
That's no Good!
I don't feel Shadow would ever kill his nephew.
XD
@@doovey_albertgaming2839 That is actually my head-canon. Shadow has had plenty of opportunities to end him.
His nephew?
@@NoNamex1412 Gerald Robotnik is Eggman's and Maria's grandfather and he is also Shadow's creator. Technically this makes Shadow Eggman's and Maria's Uncle.
Didn't shadow kill eggman on his videogame? I mean, it's not canon, but it was programmed and a team thought about it.
6:36
Don't you love to "Power Walk to workout your frustrations" together with your homies?
"You won't BELIEVE what this bitch said to me while I was checking out of Whole Foods today!"
Shadow did not consciously choose to change, he just forgot who he was, a very similar scenario
But incidentally, Shadow's case is the opposite, and serves as proof that they shouldn't trust Mr. Tinker by himself, because amnesia, selective or not, isn't guaranteed to be permanent
Technically he didn't forget whohe was. If Gerald. casual fan then he just forgot a promise that he made, if you're an enthusiast his memories were altered by gerald.
@@fightingmedialounge519 I am referring his literal complete amnesia in Sonic Heroes, "enthusiast"
@@Lazypackmule that happend after he alredy decided to help protect humanity in adventure2( that's what nick means when he said shadowed shadow consciously chose to to change his ways).
@@fightingmedialounge519 Shadow didn't "change his ways" at the end of SA2, because the evil actions he engaged in were never something he made a conscious decision to do in the first place, they were forced into him by Gerald
@@Lazypackmule not exactly. Gerald implanted false memories inside of shadow's mind to influence his actions, but whether or not he went through with it is all on shadow.
It’s all about justice. Justice is done to make lessons learned. If someone lost their memory and turned a new leaf because of it, that’s it. Your job is done. It’s all about getting a bad person to stop. If they stop, that’s a success in my book.
Justice is flawed as in the wrong hands it can be disproportionate retribution.
2 Eggs? Someone get the plate
I tried and this was the best i could do, I'm sorry
Id just have some people dedicated to watching tinker, reporting anything that seems egg-like, and hopefully stopping anyone who wants to find eggman for the wrong reasons (wink wink)
IJUST finished the Angel Island arc. I LOVE how seeing metal sonic is what brings his memory back
For some reason, this episode made me want to read the series more than ever. It's great to see the characters I grew up loving involved in more complex stories (by Sonic standards)
Nice! Loved this vid, can’t wait to see ya get to the future storylines with “tinker”
I was going to ask how you managed to time travel and leave a comment yesterday for video that went up a few minutes ago, then realized it’s probably one of the Patreon or other supporter bonuses that come from having the means and inclination to fund such wonderful content...
For that I thank you.
5:59 she’s basically the fan service character for the series
Neo metal sonic could shape shift so maybe he took over as Eggman?
13:13 Okay this video was great before, but now? This is the funniest sh*t I've ever seen.
Its fan art
I gotta be honest, seeing Eggman being nice is wholesome and cute.
13:14
LADS! HE TURNED HIMSELF INTO A PICKLE!!!
2:07 Um, ok I have lots of questions now
I'd be on Sonic's side. I would stress longer than he did, but given the circumstances, I would react the same way.
woah I'm early, well all I gotta say is that this series is a really way to know more about the sonic comics!
Something else to note: In retrospect, I can't help but think that at least some of what comes later could've been avoided had they simply explained Tinker's past to him. Perhaps then he could've chosen to be a new person. Worst case scenario, he reverts to eggman right then and there, but they all have him cornered with no way out for once.
I believe the Phantom Ruby erased Eggman's Mind. Do keep in mind that the Phantom Ruby has the power alter people's reality and make it their own thoughts. Since Eggman was evil at the beginning, the Phantom Ruby reversed his personality making him good instead of evil or erased his mind for good.
Wait a second, Having 2 of them in the same dimension for too long will cause a catastrophic anomaly the likes of which mankind has never seen.
I personally have not had a chance to read the IDW Sonic series, but this new collection of videos you've created has actually inspired me to pick it up! You're not only making a difference in your viewers lives, but the lives of people who produce the sonic content we love so much. Thank you!
13:13 He turned himself into a pickle, he's called pickle Nick! Funniest shit I've ever seen.
I really liked the Mr. Tinker idea, I wish he could have stayed Mr. Tinker a little bit longer.
As for the morality side of things...I don't really believe in the idea of needing to hold someone accountable for crimes if the person who did said crime is gone, or it was entirely an accident. I think the best course of action for someone like Mr. Tinker would be to leave him be but monitor him greatly.
0:17 Little Nicky has one of the most creative punishments for Hitler. He wanted to use the little pineapple, but Satan wouldn't have it.
They may flop on every other game but their comics have been nearly spot on for as long as i remember. Miss the Archie series more so then anything. Universe and STH were part of me growing up and honestly I think playing the games as an adult verses reading the comics, there is so much more to the books and so much characterization and expressionism. Knock the games willy nilly, but never dismiss the comics for how great they are. Love your videos GA! Keep up the awesome content, just subscribed today because HOW CAN I NOT YOU LITERALLY SUPPORT THE FRANCHISE THATS SO DEAR TO ME. Bless you sir. ❤️ - Ab, Canada 🇨🇦
So funny story, my cousin had this one so i read it, then i come back and see this.
Cute comics and very interesting story with Mr. Tinker. Nice job with the first couple of minutes with the video getting folks to really think about the moral consequents. That was really brave of you. Keep it up with these Sonic Speed Readings.
I love mr. Tinker so much he's just so head empty and nervous
I found your channel and oh my jesus I love your content. I really find your humour and narration/tone/explanation clear and entertaining. Keep up the videos!!!! (I also love sonic like way too much)
All Sonic had to do was put Mr Thinker in house arrest and tell him that they just want to make sure he is safe. It's not like he was going to leave the village anytime soon
6:59 I am reminded of the first stage of Sonic colors with those parts of the floor that trip you up and slow you down.
Cool! Awesome video, as always!
And don't worry, I can wait for that FF7 video no problem! :)
I've noticed that they moved Sonic's 90's personality over to Shadow.
I gotta say, the comics are great and your content is awesome.
This tinker stuff interested me, I love this alternative eggman personality, he's so jolly, and happy.
one thing i can blame...no one had someone keep a eye on him.
This entire scenario was more or less also tackled in Black Mirror, where a heinous criminal has her memories constantly erased and forced to live through an artificially simulated hell where everyone takes part in her suffering and revels in it as a community.
Great vid bro, I like how the comics at least try character development and depth to the series. 👌 more interesting the. Regular stop the bad guy from doing bad guy things... cos you know he’s a badddd guy 🤷♂️
7:35 i chuckled like a fangirl when i heard that- uh-oh i'm becoming a fangirl too aaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Little did Espio know then that he would regret trusting Sonic that Eggman/Tinker was innocent
As a history junkie, I gotta say your parallels on this are amazing. 👌🏼
Love your videos man keep it up!
First Malcolm McDowell, now a village elder goat. Your disguises will never hide your darkness, Dr. Monty...
i'm sure this will have any negative repercussions in the future.
Someone's got a Phantom clone...~
(Never read the comics, this is just a guess)
Its metal sonic
@@kage2701
O h . . .
Thanks for the spoiler.
After this video, I can't wait to see you talk about Doctor Starline.
"You poor little purple people eater."
It's not funny....
but it is
Another fine addition!
I honestly love this series not liking to read and loving sonic games and the lore. Just great videos
6:28 Rouge is the real Batgirl.
I love Tinker. He shows that, at his most essential level, Eggman is not evil. He shows what Eggman could be...
I miss him.
I would love to see this series be in an animated TV show, I really love this comic series. Am pretty new to it and I didn't know the story was way better than the games...
6:20 Glorious dude lol
Clicks on some sonic video in suggestion bar because I'm a brain dead mind slave.
"Would you kill baby Hitler"
Ah yes my second favorite sonic villain
Simple solution; monitoring. If tinker is an act, or if he gets "killed" by eggman *coughvaderkilledanakincough* then you act quickly and decisively. Otherwise, live and let live. But dont stop watching. NEVER stop watching. It's unfortunate that tinker will never have any privacy again, but that's the sacrifice he needs to make to LIVE.
Definitely an interesting topic to explore. As you said in the beginning what is scary about terrible people is that they are PEOPLE. Justice calls for a suitable punishment for the consequences of ones actions especially if those consequences were intended (remember, it is not just the one person but a group of individuals who are responsible for the terrible events in our history). In this case with eggman he hasn't killed anyone even by the events caused by his actions no one died (he tried to kill sonic back in Adv. 2 and not only failed but has not attempted to do so again, just neutralize). Say this was the actual eggman who did lose his memories and became dr. Tinker, a suitable punishment would be imprisonment considering eggman's past crimes. Instead of imprisonment, it could also be public service which is exactly what tinker is doing though not as punishment but as intention. Plus him being actually nice after losing his memories only supports the possibility of good in eggman. Once someone kills however, it is a different story. A decision for a harsher punishment has to be made in order to keep other potential lives from being lost, because the person that killed is even more of a danger to everyone. Imagine if eggman had piles of corpses under his name, it would be irredeemable at that point even if he lost his memories and became a nicer person. That potential danger is still there. Luckily, eggman is not killer and that is enough for me to give him a chance of redemption.
I don’t think I’ve ever been this early for a video not gonna lie lol
9:15
"Can I have your attention slaves?! I WILL have your attention slaves! Will the real Eggman please stand up? I repeat. Will the REAL Eggman please stand up?!" ("I can't!")
Great video :)
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I sure liked to play with the idea of a Shadow, post Sonic Adventure and Shadow the Hedgehog, to be somewhat more depressed. I mean, he was created as an ultimate lifeform and weapon, almost helped to destroy the world in grief over the loss of his one and only friend and then lost his memories and then regained them. After the amnesia especially, he would be so confused and less secure of himself than Sonic Adventure Shadow, even more so after the Shadow the Hedgehog ending where he identifies himself as more harm than good.
I'd honestly would like to see him and Sonic clash over that internal state of self worth and even Sonic helping Shadow to grow more confident again or whatever, but that might be because I happen to be depressed myself xD
This arc was really interesting to read.
Ha, the game apologist became a pickle....
That made me laugh more than it should have.
This issue was my favourite of the ones so far.
Honestly, I would've had someone stay to keep an eye on Mr. Tinker. You know, monitor him.
That probably could've prevented what was going to happen.
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To me, the moment they lose their memories, they’re not the same person. The old person has died.
A simply, Eggcellent video