I've also noticed that for ISFPs their art is more about the physical act of making the art, as if they like the process of drawing out their ideas and turning it into something physical. For INFPs, it's more about the idea or meaning behind the art, that's why it takes a while for INFP artwork to come out on paper and their art generally appears to be more thought provoking. Whereas, an ISFPs art will look more expressive and visually pleasing.
I’m an infp and I tend to babble to fill an awkward silence when I’m less healthy and insecure, I also over explain everything, sometimes making it worse It feels so good to not say anything at all and just zone out and move to my own groove. I have a lot of trust and abandonment issues so I’m really working on not over explaining all of my actions and the intention/integrity of that action.
For some reason as isfp i feel protective of infp im not usually a care taker or leader in any relationship but with infp i feel like i must protect them at all costs they are too valuable to me
Good point, I try to make space for everyone to be comfortable, but infps can be so much more timid around others so I do feel like I have to make extra space and help keep their boundaries up if they start to seem anxious. They really are just precious bunnies 😅
Great in-depth look, I’ve noticed so much of the same about ISFPs compared to INFPs. With a few ISFPs compared to INFPs, their mood doesn’t fluctuate as constantly as INFPs…but when ISFPs get in a dark mood, man it’s dark and they can stay there for a long long time. Then again this is all very specific to the individual I guess!
Тоже самое!!!!!) Люблю молчание, люблю одиночество...В моей голове выстраиваются целые миры и мне тяжело общаться с человеком который постоянно болтает.. Приходится подстраиваться под другого что бы слушать только его и не обидеть ..И да я из маленького облака могу придумать огромную тучу с последствиями..)) Упрямство -сильное ! но оно идет откуда то изнутри, как бы вне меня... Если что не соответствует моим внутренним ценностям то я не пойду на сделку которая будет мне противоречить..Я должна обязательно разобраться и убедится что для меня это будет настоящим моим..Плохое настроение бывает но редко и то чаще злюсь на себя и свою слабость воли.. Любопытство и интерес к новому -лучшее лекарство от обиды и плохого настроения)) Интересное совпадение но меня тоже безумно привлекают торнадо..хотя в наших широтах их не бывает.. Возникновение, мощь, неуправляемость , дикая сила, разрушительная красота, какая то есть первобытность в этом когда человек чувствует себя песчинкой перед сокрушительными силами природы..
A difference between an INFP artist like Andy Warhol and an ISFP artist like Bob Ross is where they get inspiration. INFPs are more imaginative and ISFPs are more realistic with the way they paint and draw
Excellent! I had a late uncle, an ISFP, who was foundational to my life in his understated manner. I reflect back on our private conversations, and I can appreciate them even more by understanding him in the context of his type. But the type is kind of elusive in ways to my INFP sensibilities. Describing your friends behaviors illustrates some ISFP aspects that were difficult for me to fully grasp by simply studying typology. Thanks!
So I think INFPs are really empathetic, we use our imagination and we know how people are feeling and also, how we are feeling too. But ISFP are less so, they know how they feel and their perspective but they struggle with understanding multiple perspectives, with the Ni, they are focused on their opinion that is very fixed, while INFP's Ne (as you said) goes off the rails). ISFPs I could see could ground an INFP. If an INFP feels accepted and known by an ISFP (in their emotions) than I could see it work out. I could see both types struggling their relationships because of the Fi dom. I've had ISFP friends before (For short periods of time), but never dated one before, although I am attracted to them.
I am ISFP and want to be a filmaker. Most of what you say about ISFP is true. The only things different about me than other ISFP is i'm not usually in the moment. Most of the time my focus is somewhere else. Haha and my INFP friend do not talk much but she is not shy and her character is so fun! Hahaha
Interesting examples. Good topic. When I'm storm chasing albeit these days live on YT feeds, I'm more of an in the moment where's the action person like your ISFP friend. I worry about damage, ppl, animals, etc after the fact figuring out ways (in my head) to help like an INFP. I think if we use our "feels" during crises, things might not go so well in the 3D world. Only in our heads. Thanks. Enjoy your road trip, lucky dog! Last vid reference :-))
I'm honestly stuck with my type because I feel like i'm not deep enough to be infp. People online keep saying I'm enfp but I'm extremely shy and reserved. I don't really think properly, I feel realyl dumb and I dont share my ideas ever. I can be observant with my environment like small details, and I know for a fact that I always will notice when details are different than what I'm used to which I think is si? But like in the past I used to be observant of present, not so much anymore. Doesn't help I also have autism and adhd. I can't really be creative, I don't really know my ideas, like if someone else has an idea, I can think of billions of possibilities, but I can't generating a bunch of ideas myself if that makes sense. Usually when something bad happens, I can either get stuck with it and spiral or think about what couldve been or what could be. But for a lot of my past, I was always in my mind and overthinking stuff so now I'm kind of sick of overthinking and being deep, I also hate metaphors and I prefer to talk in literal terms, its just easier to understand. I like solving stuff but it physically hurts my brain at times. I tend to switch what I wanna learn all the time, at times I wanna learn something really bad and learn everything about it coming off as a ti user but then I'm bored of it a week later. Point is, I think I lack the creativity to be an ne type. I also have aphantasia, dont' like reading unless its info im interesting in, and I can't write at all. But I am never in the present, I never notice anything going on, I'm too worried whihc causes me to dissociate and not notice anything going on. For instance, I meet someone in real life, it feels amazing and I get energy but then my thoughts are idealising this person, obsessing over them, imagining marrying them, imagining being there best friend. then my other thoughts are telling me that I'm gonna mess this up and this person wil leventually leave me forever like whats happened with other friendships. I don't know if thats ni or ne but its not good. and it takes me out of the moment. Sometimes with in the car, I notice details like and notice whats beautiful without thinking anything else to it, but I at the same time just forget what I'm doing. Like whenever I travel, I keep forgetting I'm there and wanting to go back home to my comfort. But then I get home and I'm like "Oh yeah I just went travelling and completly forgot." but if I went back to that place, I would know exactly whether it looked different to the last time I went or not, I would spot every single detail that was diff than last time. So I don't know anymore. Maybe my past trauma made me scared of being deep or smth, becasue my brains so aware of how much i spiral? self awareness can be an issue. But I really don't understand isfp stuff either, I used to think I was a se user but I don't know. Cuz like, I do use se sometimes I think becasue I do impulsive tihngs like one time I nkew something was a virus but then my brain was like "but what if it isnt" and then i downloaded it because I just really wanted to try it out cuz I was so curious. Another time, I had this idea to troll on a video game so I did, I don't like just waiting around with ideas and if i do wait around with ideas then they just change. I also have a problem with too many possibilities but I also hate hwen things are too resitrictve with just one possibility. Like, for choosing a carreer, I had no career path I just wanted to do anything I liked and test out everything but I couldn't which annoyed me. I thought I would hate college because I hate doing the same thing but I realise now that college actually is a lot better than doing multiple courses at once, I guess thats false expectations and idealism? Again not sure if thats more isfp thing or xnfp thing. Sorry this is long I'm just so confused. Another thing that confuses me is that people say infp see meaning in their art and stuff but I don't, like I just do stuff and then something happens, Im too busy overthinking something else to notice. Like I draw a lot but I don't actually think in my head what I'm making, I just draw because Idk why not. But its not like an isfp thing either because with my drawing, I don't notice any details at all and keep making mistakes. During drawing, I think I dissociate becasue I don't notice anything going on, its not like I'm activating my imagination either, I just try to implement techniques I saw online and maybe thats it. I don't understnad what makes something visually pleasing or expressive (even tho Im good at photography apparently). But I don't really think of meanings in art either, I just see art as art and nothing else. To me, drawing is more like a stim more than anything, its something I do to stop my self from stressing out. I just think I don't think properly at all.
Thank you for sharing your experience It sounds like you have some other conditions that contribute to you struggling with things. I’m not sure about the expectations and idealism question, could be either I think.
You sound like an INFP for me, the tendency to space out, seeing possibilities in everything and thus having a hard time to decide. A friend of mine who's an INFP (he also has ADHD) is not comfortable to think deeply about things in general, so maybe it's related to trauma. I mean he likes to think about things on surface level, where it's safe, but he still thinks and likes to share a lot of things related to tv shows or book characters, plots and all kinds of ideas. I'm an ISFP with autism so I can relate with your social struggles and idolizing people very quickly. Everyone with these personality types are different of course, not everyone is an artist (in a traditional sense). But about the thought process of creating art: you don't create art in a vacuum, it always comes from something you see around you or expand from someone else's thought or creations, so no thought is ever truly unique. So while art might be more like a self soothing activity for you and there's nothing wrong with that, maybe it has more meaning than you realize. And maybe if you want it to be deeper, maybe processing some of those fears might be helpful.
I understand why you got frustrated. My brother got tested as enfj. But it's from 16personalities website. When he did cognitive function test, he is actually an infj. Which is weird. But i can see the pattern. He can read people from their gesture and facial expression. But he is not that active or want to be a leader. My sister and mom is also infj. The test is not about accuracy or precision result. Human is complex. Only us who knows the truth. So better ask someone close like your family members bcs they know you since you are young and you grow older with them. You can also ask close friends and old comrades for feedbacks. Take a time for assessment and finally answered the cognitive function test based on your true self. So I suggest you get cognitive function test. Just to understand some cognitive function that gets higher. In general we all have 8 of the functions. But with the test, we finally know which is the dominant fuction. Some get over developed while the other fuction gets inferior or less developed. That's why another test should be taken which is Enneagram. Not everyone is the same. I know an intp that got tested as entp. But he sounds like intp. After Enneagram test, it turns out he is entp 5w6. Which is totally different than stereotypes. Hope you get better. -infp 5w6
Ahh I wish I had a lot of friends. I know a lot of people through my hobbies/music but am trying to reach out to my old long time buddies to make connections these days because I don’t have too many unfortunately
Thank you for being bold in your close relationship with Jesus. May God bless you in your endeavors, trials, tribulations and success in all aspects of your life 🙏✝️💖
I've also noticed that for ISFPs their art is more about the physical act of making the art, as if they like the process of drawing out their ideas and turning it into something physical. For INFPs, it's more about the idea or meaning behind the art, that's why it takes a while for INFP artwork to come out on paper and their art generally appears to be more thought provoking. Whereas, an ISFPs art will look more expressive and visually pleasing.
I’m an infp and I use art to process emotion, it’s more fluid and abstract
I wish I did it more often but I get caught up in my head
@@xAsiyah I use art in the same way. I try to let it flow out of me but it does get stuck sometimes when I get lost in my mind.
I'm an isfp and I use emotion and meaning.
I’m an infp and I tend to babble to fill an awkward silence when I’m less healthy and insecure, I also over explain everything, sometimes making it worse
It feels so good to not say anything at all and just zone out and move to my own groove. I have a lot of trust and abandonment issues so I’m really working on not over explaining all of my actions and the intention/integrity of that action.
Girl, same!
For some reason as isfp i feel protective of infp im not usually a care taker or leader in any relationship but with infp i feel like i must protect them at all costs they are too valuable to me
Very interesting!!! My crush is an isfp and I’ve felt like he was always protective over me☺️
Good point, I try to make space for everyone to be comfortable, but infps can be so much more timid around others so I do feel like I have to make extra space and help keep their boundaries up if they start to seem anxious. They really are just precious bunnies 😅
I’m an infp-t guy and this girl I’ve been hangin out w is an isfp-t lol
Great in-depth look, I’ve noticed so much of the same about ISFPs compared to INFPs. With a few ISFPs compared to INFPs, their mood doesn’t fluctuate as constantly as INFPs…but when ISFPs get in a dark mood, man it’s dark and they can stay there for a long long time. Then again this is all very specific to the individual I guess!
Тоже самое!!!!!) Люблю молчание, люблю одиночество...В моей голове выстраиваются целые миры и мне тяжело общаться с человеком который постоянно болтает.. Приходится подстраиваться под другого что бы слушать только его и не обидеть ..И да я из маленького облака могу придумать огромную тучу с последствиями..)) Упрямство -сильное ! но оно идет откуда то изнутри, как бы вне меня... Если что не соответствует моим внутренним ценностям то я не пойду на сделку которая будет мне противоречить..Я должна обязательно разобраться и убедится что для меня это будет настоящим моим..Плохое настроение бывает но редко и то чаще злюсь на себя и свою слабость воли.. Любопытство и интерес к новому -лучшее лекарство от обиды и плохого настроения))
Интересное совпадение но меня тоже безумно привлекают торнадо..хотя в наших широтах их не бывает.. Возникновение, мощь, неуправляемость , дикая сила, разрушительная красота, какая то есть первобытность в этом когда человек чувствует себя песчинкой перед сокрушительными силами природы..
A difference between an INFP artist like Andy Warhol and an ISFP artist like Bob Ross is where they get inspiration. INFPs are more imaginative and ISFPs are more realistic with the way they paint and draw
Yep, INFP here. It drives one of my daughters nuts that I see more in something that simply just is. 😊
Excellent! I had a late uncle, an ISFP, who was foundational to my life in his understated manner. I reflect back on our private conversations, and I can appreciate them even more by understanding him in the context of his type. But the type is kind of elusive in ways to my INFP sensibilities. Describing your friends behaviors illustrates some ISFP aspects that were difficult for me to fully grasp by simply studying typology. Thanks!
So I think INFPs are really empathetic, we use our imagination and we know how people are feeling and also, how we are feeling too. But ISFP are less so, they know how they feel and their perspective but they struggle with understanding multiple perspectives, with the Ni, they are focused on their opinion that is very fixed, while INFP's Ne (as you said) goes off the rails). ISFPs I could see could ground an INFP. If an INFP feels accepted and known by an ISFP (in their emotions) than I could see it work out. I could see both types struggling their relationships because of the Fi dom. I've had ISFP friends before (For short periods of time), but never dated one before, although I am attracted to them.
I am ISFP and want to be a filmaker. Most of what you say about ISFP is true. The only things different about me than other ISFP is i'm not usually in the moment. Most of the time my focus is somewhere else. Haha and my INFP friend do not talk much but she is not shy and her character is so fun! Hahaha
Awesome thanks for sharing 😊🙏
Interesting examples. Good topic. When I'm storm chasing albeit these days live on YT feeds, I'm more of an in the moment where's the action person like your ISFP friend. I worry about damage, ppl, animals, etc after the fact figuring out ways (in my head) to help like an INFP. I think if we use our "feels" during crises, things might not go so well in the 3D world. Only in our heads. Thanks. Enjoy your road trip, lucky dog! Last vid reference :-))
I'm honestly stuck with my type because I feel like i'm not deep enough to be infp. People online keep saying I'm enfp but I'm extremely shy and reserved. I don't really think properly, I feel realyl dumb and I dont share my ideas ever. I can be observant with my environment like small details, and I know for a fact that I always will notice when details are different than what I'm used to which I think is si? But like in the past I used to be observant of present, not so much anymore. Doesn't help I also have autism and adhd. I can't really be creative, I don't really know my ideas, like if someone else has an idea, I can think of billions of possibilities, but I can't generating a bunch of ideas myself if that makes sense. Usually when something bad happens, I can either get stuck with it and spiral or think about what couldve been or what could be. But for a lot of my past, I was always in my mind and overthinking stuff so now I'm kind of sick of overthinking and being deep, I also hate metaphors and I prefer to talk in literal terms, its just easier to understand. I like solving stuff but it physically hurts my brain at times. I tend to switch what I wanna learn all the time, at times I wanna learn something really bad and learn everything about it coming off as a ti user but then I'm bored of it a week later. Point is, I think I lack the creativity to be an ne type. I also have aphantasia, dont' like reading unless its info im interesting in, and I can't write at all. But I am never in the present, I never notice anything going on, I'm too worried whihc causes me to dissociate and not notice anything going on. For instance, I meet someone in real life, it feels amazing and I get energy but then my thoughts are idealising this person, obsessing over them, imagining marrying them, imagining being there best friend. then my other thoughts are telling me that I'm gonna mess this up and this person wil leventually leave me forever like whats happened with other friendships. I don't know if thats ni or ne but its not good. and it takes me out of the moment. Sometimes with in the car, I notice details like and notice whats beautiful without thinking anything else to it, but I at the same time just forget what I'm doing. Like whenever I travel, I keep forgetting I'm there and wanting to go back home to my comfort. But then I get home and I'm like "Oh yeah I just went travelling and completly forgot." but if I went back to that place, I would know exactly whether it looked different to the last time I went or not, I would spot every single detail that was diff than last time.
So I don't know anymore. Maybe my past trauma made me scared of being deep or smth, becasue my brains so aware of how much i spiral? self awareness can be an issue. But I really don't understand isfp stuff either, I used to think I was a se user but I don't know. Cuz like, I do use se sometimes I think becasue I do impulsive tihngs like one time I nkew something was a virus but then my brain was like "but what if it isnt" and then i downloaded it because I just really wanted to try it out cuz I was so curious. Another time, I had this idea to troll on a video game so I did, I don't like just waiting around with ideas and if i do wait around with ideas then they just change. I also have a problem with too many possibilities but I also hate hwen things are too resitrictve with just one possibility. Like, for choosing a carreer, I had no career path I just wanted to do anything I liked and test out everything but I couldn't which annoyed me. I thought I would hate college because I hate doing the same thing but I realise now that college actually is a lot better than doing multiple courses at once, I guess thats false expectations and idealism? Again not sure if thats more isfp thing or xnfp thing. Sorry this is long I'm just so confused. Another thing that confuses me is that people say infp see meaning in their art and stuff but I don't, like I just do stuff and then something happens, Im too busy overthinking something else to notice. Like I draw a lot but I don't actually think in my head what I'm making, I just draw because Idk why not. But its not like an isfp thing either because with my drawing, I don't notice any details at all and keep making mistakes. During drawing, I think I dissociate becasue I don't notice anything going on, its not like I'm activating my imagination either, I just try to implement techniques I saw online and maybe thats it. I don't understnad what makes something visually pleasing or expressive (even tho Im good at photography apparently). But I don't really think of meanings in art either, I just see art as art and nothing else. To me, drawing is more like a stim more than anything, its something I do to stop my self from stressing out. I just think I don't think properly at all.
Thank you for sharing your experience
It sounds like you have some other conditions that contribute to you struggling with things. I’m not sure about the expectations and idealism question, could be either I think.
You sound like an INFP for me, the tendency to space out, seeing possibilities in everything and thus having a hard time to decide. A friend of mine who's an INFP (he also has ADHD) is not comfortable to think deeply about things in general, so maybe it's related to trauma. I mean he likes to think about things on surface level, where it's safe, but he still thinks and likes to share a lot of things related to tv shows or book characters, plots and all kinds of ideas.
I'm an ISFP with autism so I can relate with your social struggles and idolizing people very quickly.
Everyone with these personality types are different of course, not everyone is an artist (in a traditional sense). But about the thought process of creating art: you don't create art in a vacuum, it always comes from something you see around you or expand from someone else's thought or creations, so no thought is ever truly unique. So while art might be more like a self soothing activity for you and there's nothing wrong with that, maybe it has more meaning than you realize. And maybe if you want it to be deeper, maybe processing some of those fears might be helpful.
I understand why you got frustrated. My brother got tested as enfj. But it's from 16personalities website. When he did cognitive function test, he is actually an infj. Which is weird. But i can see the pattern. He can read people from their gesture and facial expression. But he is not that active or want to be a leader. My sister and mom is also infj.
The test is not about accuracy or precision result. Human is complex. Only us who knows the truth. So better ask someone close like your family members bcs they know you since you are young and you grow older with them. You can also ask close friends and old comrades for feedbacks. Take a time for assessment and finally answered the cognitive function test based on your true self.
So I suggest you get cognitive function test. Just to understand some cognitive function that gets higher. In general we all have 8 of the functions. But with the test, we finally know which is the dominant fuction. Some get over developed while the other fuction gets inferior or less developed. That's why another test should be taken which is Enneagram. Not everyone is the same.
I know an intp that got tested as entp. But he sounds like intp. After Enneagram test, it turns out he is entp 5w6. Which is totally different than stereotypes. Hope you get better.
-infp 5w6
Ok... Wonderful...
Now I know I'm an Infp... Thanks ^^
Wow, you have a lot of friends :) My best friend is Jesus, yup that's right Jesus Christ, and next is my daughter, then my cat, and guinea pig..🌝
Ahh I wish I had a lot of friends. I know a lot of people through my hobbies/music but am trying to reach out to my old long time buddies to make connections these days because I don’t have too many unfortunately
@@psychcasserole yeah these are lonely times..Best to you🧡🙏🌼
Thank you for being bold in your close relationship with Jesus. May God bless you in your endeavors, trials, tribulations and success in all aspects of your life 🙏✝️💖