Kris perovic's anti-meta deck is amazing. It's consistent and powerful and seems well balanced against the meta. Weird to see one of his decks without tribe and serpent, the latter could be considered one of the best cards in the game, but I understand his reasoning. Not sure why gorilla is in the side if he's maining BK and zombyra though
Ikr? I also want agent of creation to be good, hopefully we see more experimentation with light decks. Btw I think any deck that plays double reinforcements should also have a mystic swordsman somewhere.
Why is Mind Crush hard nerfed in recent GOAT rulings where you can't look at your opponent's hand to verify? I understand why NoC has the ruling since you can just screenshot the person's deck, but hand knowledge was/is a major upside of Mind Crush and I don't know why that's no longer allowed.
@MadcapYGO Right, but it was ruled that you check hand for verification. Just like, if you played GOAT format historically, you know that you would check an opponent's deck for verification after using NoC. Neither of those cards SAY that, but that was how it was always done back in the in person GOAT days of 2005. My question is specifically why that is not done anymore. Cheating is, unfortunately, very common in YGO which is why these verification methods were always done. I can understand NoC change because having 100% deck knowledge with a screen shot is overpowered and clearly unintended. Mind Crush tho, I am 100% on the train of being able to check their hand. Example: You do a hard read on BLS or Sorc because you suspect they have Chaos. They can just say "don't have" and you're expected to move on. Then, 3 turns later, they drop the BLS/Sorc on you. Are you gonna call a judge every single time this happens and verify that they actually drew they card they played in the last 3 turns and didn't simply lie to you? You have NO way of verifying until duel replay at the very end. TLDR: Mind Crush should absolutely have verification tied to the card itself unless you are in a tourney format where people will check replays and can get you DQ. That cannot happen on DB ladder and good luck getting a judge to come by within 10 mins. Additionally, not doing hand check is not how GOAT was historically played. If we want to stay true to the format, we should not change how the game was played except for extreme circumstances like NoC. Otherwise, what's to stop other changes in the future?
@MadcapYGO Right, but you realize that that mechanic changes the game right? For example, in real life, when NoC was played, you checked deck. While you couldn't memorize every card, you COULD briefly scan and see if they had BLS and 2 Sorcs still in the deck, meaning no chaos in hand. You could gain hand knowledge easily if you were smart enough with a good enough memory. The mechanic of not checking deck with NoC and not checking hand with Mind Crush is a major nerf to any deck playing those cards and a major buff to any deck with flips (like Chaos turbo for example). It actually would be a huge nerf to Chaos if Warrior players got to flip through a Chaos player's deck for card info after NoC, far more than Chaos doing the same to them. This is something that the online format changes that, quite honestly, DOES impact win rates imo. Again, I will reiterate that I think NoC should NOT be allowed to go through the deck online due to screen shots. I will stand by Mind Crush allowing you to check the hand. Hand knowledge is already common with Dustshoot. Why change Mind Crush from how it was historically played in GOAT?
Hey kinda random but I've been playing flip control lately, and I have been running 2 copies of morphing jar #2. I feel it's really under rated, thoughts?
Nice to see Big Shield Gardna getting the props he deserves as the best answer to punishing Crossouts.
Always fascinating to see people continue to innovate in such a cool format!
Kris perovic's anti-meta deck is amazing. It's consistent and powerful and seems well balanced against the meta. Weird to see one of his decks without tribe and serpent, the latter could be considered one of the best cards in the game, but I understand his reasoning. Not sure why gorilla is in the side if he's maining BK and zombyra though
mind crush is prime for the meta. i like to pair it with cyber jar
Love it, what did that first anti meta win?
Ikr? I also want agent of creation to be good, hopefully we see more experimentation with light decks.
Btw I think any deck that plays double reinforcements should also have a mystic swordsman somewhere.
JDZ was talking about how mind control is a main deck card and trap dustshoot is sideable 🤷♂️
what voice changer app are you using?
So anti meta is the new name of THE PILE
Why is Mind Crush hard nerfed in recent GOAT rulings where you can't look at your opponent's hand to verify? I understand why NoC has the ruling since you can just screenshot the person's deck, but hand knowledge was/is a major upside of Mind Crush and I don't know why that's no longer allowed.
@MadcapYGO Right, but it was ruled that you check hand for verification. Just like, if you played GOAT format historically, you know that you would check an opponent's deck for verification after using NoC. Neither of those cards SAY that, but that was how it was always done back in the in person GOAT days of 2005.
My question is specifically why that is not done anymore. Cheating is, unfortunately, very common in YGO which is why these verification methods were always done. I can understand NoC change because having 100% deck knowledge with a screen shot is overpowered and clearly unintended. Mind Crush tho, I am 100% on the train of being able to check their hand.
Example: You do a hard read on BLS or Sorc because you suspect they have Chaos. They can just say "don't have" and you're expected to move on. Then, 3 turns later, they drop the BLS/Sorc on you. Are you gonna call a judge every single time this happens and verify that they actually drew they card they played in the last 3 turns and didn't simply lie to you? You have NO way of verifying until duel replay at the very end.
TLDR: Mind Crush should absolutely have verification tied to the card itself unless you are in a tourney format where people will check replays and can get you DQ. That cannot happen on DB ladder and good luck getting a judge to come by within 10 mins.
Additionally, not doing hand check is not how GOAT was historically played. If we want to stay true to the format, we should not change how the game was played except for extreme circumstances like NoC. Otherwise, what's to stop other changes in the future?
@MadcapYGO Right, but you realize that that mechanic changes the game right? For example, in real life, when NoC was played, you checked deck. While you couldn't memorize every card, you COULD briefly scan and see if they had BLS and 2 Sorcs still in the deck, meaning no chaos in hand. You could gain hand knowledge easily if you were smart enough with a good enough memory.
The mechanic of not checking deck with NoC and not checking hand with Mind Crush is a major nerf to any deck playing those cards and a major buff to any deck with flips (like Chaos turbo for example). It actually would be a huge nerf to Chaos if Warrior players got to flip through a Chaos player's deck for card info after NoC, far more than Chaos doing the same to them. This is something that the online format changes that, quite honestly, DOES impact win rates imo.
Again, I will reiterate that I think NoC should NOT be allowed to go through the deck online due to screen shots. I will stand by Mind Crush allowing you to check the hand. Hand knowledge is already common with Dustshoot. Why change Mind Crush from how it was historically played in GOAT?
Is zaborg/spy warrior a good deck? Cool to see the new innovation
Hey kinda random but I've been playing flip control lately, and I have been running 2 copies of morphing jar #2. I feel it's really under rated, thoughts?
I've heard the term "Warrior Aggro" thrown around.
Bro...Venus says, that the Balls can be SS from hand as well🤔
Mind crush minus 2 if it doesn't hit riip
What about the winning deck in pwcq 44?
can you link decklists files when you do this?
Is there something I can play online to practice goat format? It's time for me to show the world why I'm not allowed to play local goat format😂