I'm in Amsterdam. The government's craven response at all levels - local, national, the King - has ignited serious anger. People expected protection but witnessed the police standing idly by. We're seeing political consequences.
Because they were Moroccans and Dutch don't care about Dutch Moroccans. The Netherlands blames the Moroccans, not the Zionists. Typical of the Netherlands.
@@snam85 Of course they will say that BS to blame Moroccans. Typically the Netherlands. They will always find ways to blame Moroccan minorities. Who still believes the Dutch media anyway.
Also, as a lifelong hostage of the US, my view of the election is that it's little more than a trashy reality show that we're forced to interact with in some form.
@@wavkariuki7653 yes, i also think it's a part of the loneliness epidemic too. the problems are so all-encompassing and unspeakable, like it's hard for an individual to grasp how to communicate the problems one clearly sees, without sounding weird. like it requires a holistic view of the present, to know history and the human condition. so what does one do under all that weight? (what might seem as unnecessary rumination for others) they go inwards and hide there.
The liberals have wrapped themselves up into such a contradictory and fantastic image of themselves that it's tough to tease out their inherent fascism. I tried to match them to Eco's 24 points, and it's not very clean. The superstructure is locked tight.
52:45 Yeah I've heard that line about "Well we won't get to protest under Trump!" and it's just interesting how it always comes out of the mouths of people who've never been to a single protest.
@@sentientcharcoal6450much appreciation from a random grandma in north Georgia USA. I've taught my grandson that which I wasn't taught about the system we're living in. The old hippy in me still believes peace is possible and humanity can be saved ❤️
Re: Domenico Losurdo & the idea of the core elements of fascism coming from colonialism; in Losurdo's Liberalism: A Counter-History he talks about the major liberal regimes of the long 19th century as being "master-race democracies". Perhaps, as mentioned, we shouldn't be asking "are we fascist yet?" rather than recognising that liberalism, colonialism, imperialism and fascism are the same beast - just sometimes with the mask on or off in different times and places (liberalism) or, as I think Mikey said, with the flesh torn off (fascism).
So, I'm not very far into the video, but I can already tell that y'all would probably appreciate the channel Black Liberation Media. They are mostly comprised of organizers and activists of color. Dr. Jared Ball is one of the main hosts, and it sounds to me like you would enjoy his analyses.
Thanks guys for such a great informative & interesting chin wag 🤩 at a time when the world feels so heavy 🇵🇸💔 I really value these session which add some normalcy and even a touch of humour at a time in my life I’ve never felt so isolated & unable to feel any real happiness other than when I’m with my grandchildren. 🌺❤️🙏 Stay safe everyone 🙏❤️ keep up the important work you all do 💪 we really do need you our ‘trusted tellers of truth’ more than you will ever know 🙏🇵🇸💔😭 #humanity
Great to see you all again! If the “Tankie group therapy” title for this episode didn’t pull me right in again, the subtitle definitely did. YES-they are the problem! Not for the reasons many on the right state, but they ARE the problem. *This is my position before watching, so if the subtitle was facetious, well…
Better to completely de-register as a voter. Being registered is your written consent to everything the sovereign's officers do. No matter who is actually elected, into office, just being registered is consent.
This is not who we are! Reminds me of the rich woman standing over me after she'd run me down on my bike, "I don't do things like this" over and over. Hello, could you help me up maybe?
This is a perfect microcosm of American liberals. So obsessed with their brand and self-image they can't put a hand out and help the people their lifestyles are harming.
Watched this a bit late but thank you - seen a lot of talk about Amsterdam and this was the first time someone raised the consequences for the actual people resisting there beyond musings about some abstract "community". Do hope there are local efforts to protect and support them.
"extreme legal violence" is also already happening domestically in the US, the golden gate 8 are facing federal charges for shutting down the golden gate bridge for 1 morning to protest for a ceasefire, could be 20 years in prison, charges pursued by a democrat DA of course
You can quickly tell that Gideon is a "liberal Zionist" an oxymoron. We are learning a lot about some high profile people and institutions through this terrible spectacle.
I would like to expand on a point @adnanahusain raises in this great episode regarding the parallels between settler colonialism, European social order and genocidal fascism, especially the question regarding the special and historic features of this moment. I believe it's important to keep in mind that, in its first iteration as fascism, one of the distinguishing features of this mode of capitalist social order, in addition to the genocidal colonialism that was already present and the dialectical pressure to solve the inner contradictions of capitalistic exploitation in a time of inter-imperialist rivalry, a central factor was the strength of the organized working class and its revolutionary parties. That pressure was made all the stronger by the fact that the Soviet Union had survived the military interventions of the combined imperialist expeditionary armies. The strength of the working-class movement in Europe and the fear it instilled in its ruling classes account for the highly repressive nature of the fascism of the time toward their own population, a feature that is until now less salient in present-day fascism, due to the historical weakness of organized working-class and revolutionary movements in the imperial core. That weakness is itself a function of how scared the capitalists got after the October Revolution. Scared enough to devote large resources, and an expanding secret apparatus, to the undermining of any domestic revolutionary force and the emergence of any future revolutionary class movement, a campaign extending to academia and the intellectual and artistic elite. That notable difference serves to obscure to most people the thoroughly fascist nature of the present imperial regime. After all, the secret police aren't breaking down people's front doors at 4:00 AM because their kids let it slip at school that their daddy hated the president. But the moment an organized opposition raises its head, they will indeed turn up at the crack of dawn, as they have done with critical journalists and direct actionists. Nonetheless, the present-day fascists are at least as vigilant as any Gestapo as regards to what folks think and say. It's just that their priority targets are those who are most likely to give support to the actual resistance to Empire which, at the end of the day, always is and was anticolonial resistance. From an imperialist point of view, the main problem with the bolsheviks was that they threatened to put an end to colonialism. Wilson, Churchill, Clemenceau, and Ebert saw it just as clearly as Sun Ya Tsen and Ho Chi Minh. Hence the present focus on criminalizing anti-Zionist discourse. In the few countries where there is some organized popular resistance Left to the neoliberal/fascist political economy (at this point these terms are pretty much interchangeable), such as France, the public discourse increasingly demands that they be outlawed, expelled from Parliament, lawfared, etc. This is why the empire and its satellite colonies are coming down so hard on all organizations and channels that provide any kind of support or legitimacy to forces actively resisting the empire's colonial projects. Today that means, first and foremost, anyone associated with the Axis of Resistance. Another similarity/difference to the first iteration is that this time the fascist empire has no inter-imperial rival. In the wake of WWII, it has been able to colonize its potential rivals in a way that the Third Reich could only partially do, having limited its reach to continental Europe. However Hitler balked before taking Britain and, of course, was never capable of swallowing up the US. Today the US has colonized all its potential rivals and imposes its ideological and economic yoke on them all. That's why we see European and Autralasian government officials echoing the worst, most debunked, most unhinged colonial atrocity propaganda. The only prize that escaped was Russia. By a fluke of history, though the empire had managed to engineer the collapse and pillage of the USSR, the chosen heir to their main imperial comprador, Yeltsin, went down the path of national sovereignty rather than further deliver its countries' natural resources to the insatiable appetites of the Western imperialists.
Excellent post with one caveat, I believe that the crown still controls the USA and it's resources. It's actually quite clever to defer the majority of the wet work on the States. The original families of incredible wealth and power came out of GB and Europe.
I think the conclusion doesn't account for the rising BRICS movement, China and Russia alone represent a significant block of the world that the west is now inferior to. Inefficiency stemming from incompetence corruption and nepotism are hallmarks of fascism, which has commonly led to the failure of such regimes. The west is very advanced in this decay, weapons that don't work, not meeting the needs of society, tilting everything to an increasingly bloated and incompetent elite. Russia and China have a different philosophy, despite many things that can be criticized, they both have management planning and priority systems that work far better than the invisible hand. The west is ripe for more repressive fascism, they are sophisticated enough to meter it out as needed more or less, at least don't riol the fat complacent public without need. Electronic surveillance is also a major new component, they can probably more accurately gauge the challenge to their power by AI and data than by booting in someone's door to take them for questioning. The system will get as violent as necessary. The west is ripe for a full collapse, resource and climate change issues have marked the end of exponential growth. The new growth will be by disposessing the too many mouths to feed, and done carefully it will be a boiling the frog exercise, starting with immigrants and visible minorities, those guilty of thought crimes etc. Like culling sheep, the herd gets smaller but stays tight and looks inward.
On the Electronic Intifada article regarding the Amsterdam hooligans they do not mention folks fighting back against the hooligans. They focus on Western media spinning the assaults by the hooligans against Dutch citizens as being anti semitic attacks when they are in fact the opposite. Is there another source that talks about the resistance?
59:01 and they cry wolf when their a** gets whooped! They can be violent, but their victims can’t. Very hypocritical! Although it must be said that the actions of the hooligans brought harm on the rest of the fans who were not part of it.
Apart from having Mossad agents planning attacks and tactics at street level, I'm quite sure the Brown shirts did exactly the same in Germany pre 33. But there was no social media or a video device in every pocket, so when the legacy media and police said they were innocent it was tidily maintained as fact.
around 25:00 to 26:00 when yall talk about the "is the US fascist?" question: the question strikes me as silly because it presupposes the liberal idea that Liberalism itself is acceptable, and so is colonialism, so long as it isn't labeled as or self aware of its fascism. Settlers will say "fuck the U.S. but at least we aren't fascist/nazi germany" and "If we were a fascist country, I'd definitely stand against the establishment." But those who utilize marxism as a science will understand that Fascism is a definite classification for a certain "mode of operation" of the bourgeoisie at certain times, not simply a morally worse "thing that happens that i don't like with extra oppression on top." Whether the US is fascist at not, horrific things have been and are being done by it. All the oppressed nations affected by it know it's terror. Not being fascist does not make these terrors acceptable to anyone but a liberal. We must fight against all of it, fascist or not.
Why do people use "neoliberalism" to refer to Dem libs? It's free market capitalism morphing from classical liberalism, which was a change in economic philosophy, not culture wars or modern lib Dem platform (as opposed to "liberalism", which is THE philosophy of Western democracy, parties aside, in general). Think Reagan, Thatcher, etc lol. It's thrown around lately to describe libs people don't like, usually by the weak left that is prevalent now. So it's misplaced here, on an actual Left podcast. Dems are headed right as fast as they can go now, incl economic theory, but even though Dems have always been hard capitalist, there was a hard lean towards regulated capitalism. But neoliberal? Not so much. Even Biden wasn't Thatcher. Clinton came closer, following Reagan as he did. IDK, maybe it's getting another meaning, but it sounds ignorant and creates much confusion, with all the meanings people assign to it. It's probably been created by the right, turning "liberals" into a dirty word, and the Left needs that also atm, but new words are needed to differentiate economic liberalism to social liberalism to Dems. MAGA well defines that wing of the GOP, Dem libs need a new term. Fascdems? I call them fake Dems. Mostly because they are so racist, best exemplified by coastal Calif, which was still segregated, last time I lived there!
At 8:39, I guess you mean reconcile it's way out of its own. Racism? Why don't people correct these mistakes. We are decimating language on all political sides and in all aspects of society and are diminishing expectations and it's making us all dumber. Not to attack this person personally for a slip or mistake of language, but it's everywhere and often worse and very damaging, especially to the less educated and marginalized who don't get the chance to learn proper language and beyond. There are very important implications beyond the obvious, and we must not give people passes and even interject and correct for clarity, to make sure we understand a point of view or citations, theory, etc.
I'm in Amsterdam. The government's craven response at all levels - local, national, the King - has ignited serious anger. People expected protection but witnessed the police standing idly by. We're seeing political consequences.
Because they were Moroccans and Dutch don't care about Dutch Moroccans. The Netherlands blames the Moroccans, not the Zionists. Typical of the Netherlands.
It seems that the non-violent fans were also attacked, which is what the media is focusing on.
@@snam85 Of course they will say that BS to blame Moroccans. Typically the Netherlands. They will always find ways to blame Moroccan minorities. Who still believes the Dutch media anyway.
@@snam85 "the non violent fans" You mean the ones the Zionists were using as human shields?
@@snam85Non violent Israelis traveling with the g’cidal thugs? If so, I don’t care.
Also, as a lifelong hostage of the US, my view of the election is that it's little more than a trashy reality show that we're forced to interact with in some form.
When you said "Justin is out," I thought you meant Justin Trudeau. Don't play with me like that!
😂
This is my actual therapy 💛
Me too, sometimes I feel like I could go crazy, the gaslighting, I wonder if this is a contributing factor to mental health issues in the west.
@wavkariuki7653 it has to be.
@@wavkariuki7653 yes, i also think it's a part of the loneliness epidemic too. the problems are so all-encompassing and unspeakable, like it's hard for an individual to grasp how to communicate the problems one clearly sees, without sounding weird. like it requires a holistic view of the present, to know history and the human condition. so what does one do under all that weight? (what might seem as unnecessary rumination for others) they go inwards and hide there.
@ true, we have access to counseling with my job, it’s my next option
Thank you guys. I always appreciate these discussions.
Thanks for listening
Thanks guys! Group Therapy is appreciated and supported!
The liberals have wrapped themselves up into such a contradictory and fantastic image of themselves that it's tough to tease out their inherent fascism. I tried to match them to Eco's 24 points, and it's not very clean. The superstructure is locked tight.
this is the kind of therapy we need. you guys need to do that more often ❤
52:45 Yeah I've heard that line about "Well we won't get to protest under Trump!" and it's just interesting how it always comes out of the mouths of people who've never been to a single protest.
maaan.. u guys makin me live my parasocial-best lol .. peace n blessings from kuala lumpur
Oh, hard same - my parasocial best 😂. Thank you, Sina, for keeping this going even under regime change 😉. We appreciate you!
@@sentientcharcoal6450much appreciation from a random grandma in north Georgia USA. I've taught my grandson that which I wasn't taught about the system we're living in. The old hippy in me still believes peace is possible and humanity can be saved ❤️
Vast appreciation for all your insights, refreshing thoughts and laughter. Thank you all for creating and sharing.
Re: Domenico Losurdo & the idea of the core elements of fascism coming from colonialism; in Losurdo's Liberalism: A Counter-History he talks about the major liberal regimes of the long 19th century as being "master-race democracies". Perhaps, as mentioned, we shouldn't be asking "are we fascist yet?" rather than recognising that liberalism, colonialism, imperialism and fascism are the same beast - just sometimes with the mask on or off in different times and places (liberalism) or, as I think Mikey said, with the flesh torn off (fascism).
I just stumbled upon this and I love it!
Talkie therapy regime change edition!
Yeshh 🤗🍉🕊
Love the jellyfish and crab shell! Solid arity from the colony way down south.
Thank you all so much. Amazing line-up today!!!
Episodes are too short y'all 😋
Your perspectives are important and we don't hear from y'all often, such great gathering, tremendous appreciation 💪
So, I'm not very far into the video, but I can already tell that y'all would probably appreciate the channel Black Liberation Media. They are mostly comprised of organizers and activists of color. Dr. Jared Ball is one of the main hosts, and it sounds to me like you would enjoy his analyses.
Yes, I am a big fan of them !
Thanks guys for such a great informative & interesting chin wag 🤩 at a time when the world feels so heavy 🇵🇸💔 I really value these session which add some normalcy and even a touch of humour at a time in my life I’ve never felt so isolated & unable to feel any real happiness other than when I’m with my grandchildren. 🌺❤️🙏
Stay safe everyone 🙏❤️ keep up the important work you all do 💪 we really do need you our ‘trusted tellers of truth’ more than you will ever know 🙏🇵🇸💔😭 #humanity
thank you all! all of your work is so helpful in my political study and helpful in knowing i am not alone 🥰
Needed this therapy session. Thank you🙏🏼
Thank you to all such intelligent people with great overflowing thoughts.
Love and really appreciate these conversations.
This was the best one so far.
Incredibly valuable episode. A glimmer of hope in all the darkness.
Thanks very much for this. Adnan’s comments at the end were especially helpful to keep focused on our goals and build networks of struggle
And Adnan and Nick on the show! Makes up for the missing tankies.
Kudos to Nick for bringing Losurdo into the discussion about fascism.
Thank you so much for your brave stands, this was very inspirational! In solidarity 💖✊🏽
Aw, this panel is so comforting
Completely off topic: love that Joe has a screen set up now but you can still hear his dog foofing around in the background 🤭❤️
Great line up, thank you, but will Matteo ever be back?
I will tell him that he is missed
@@theeastisapodcastyes, please tell him we miss him. And thanks for this great episode!
Love love love tankie therapy! Thank you
Great to see you all again! If the “Tankie group therapy” title for this episode didn’t pull me right in again, the subtitle definitely did.
YES-they are the problem! Not for the reasons many on the right state, but they ARE the problem.
*This is my position before watching, so if the subtitle was facetious, well…
Better to completely de-register as a voter. Being registered is your written consent to everything the sovereign's officers do. No matter who is actually elected, into office, just being registered is consent.
The ruling class doesn't care about your consent.
@someotherandomman why spend so much on elections? Do you believe it's even possible to completely de-register as a voter?
Is that Victims of Capitalism Memorial Foundation from twitter?
yes
This is not who we are! Reminds me of the rich woman standing over me after she'd run me down on my bike, "I don't do things like this" over and over. Hello, could you help me up maybe?
This is a perfect microcosm of American liberals. So obsessed with their brand and self-image they can't put a hand out and help the people their lifestyles are harming.
You got Louis!!!!!
Watched this a bit late but thank you - seen a lot of talk about Amsterdam and this was the first time someone raised the consequences for the actual people resisting there beyond musings about some abstract "community". Do hope there are local efforts to protect and support them.
Appreciate all of your analyses. Dudes rock ✌️
Great to see Adnan for the first time 💕
Thanks
30:25 As I've been saying we are on the 248th year of Hitler.
"extreme legal violence" is also already happening domestically in the US, the golden gate 8 are facing federal charges for shutting down the golden gate bridge for 1 morning to protest for a ceasefire, could be 20 years in prison, charges pursued by a democrat DA of course
Thank you. From Minneapolis Mni Sota Makoce (Minnesota), US. 🖤🏴🍉✊🏽
Thank you!
And Max Ajl! 🎉
This show was medicine!
I was extremely disappointed to hear that Gideon Levy called Amsterdam a pogram. 😔
You can quickly tell that Gideon is a "liberal Zionist" an oxymoron. We are learning a lot about some high profile people and institutions through this terrible spectacle.
He said Sinwar was weak and pathetic in his last minutes…
Thank you.
"Tankies are always right."
Yay, therapy 🎉
Right on time 🤭
Yessss! “Read more Fanon!” ❤️
you need more women in the show 😂
agreed 100%
Yeah, I was also thinking that.
losurdo's "western marxism" couldn't have come at a better time in history
I would like to expand on a point @adnanahusain raises in this great episode regarding the parallels between settler colonialism, European social order and genocidal fascism, especially the question regarding the special and historic features of this moment.
I believe it's important to keep in mind that, in its first iteration as fascism, one of the distinguishing features of this mode of capitalist social order, in addition to the genocidal colonialism that was already present and the dialectical pressure to solve the inner contradictions of capitalistic exploitation in a time of inter-imperialist rivalry, a central factor was the strength of the organized working class and its revolutionary parties. That pressure was made all the stronger by the fact that the Soviet Union had survived the military interventions of the combined imperialist expeditionary armies.
The strength of the working-class movement in Europe and the fear it instilled in its ruling classes account for the highly repressive nature of the fascism of the time toward their own population, a feature that is until now less salient in present-day fascism, due to the historical weakness of organized working-class and revolutionary movements in the imperial core. That weakness is itself a function of how scared the capitalists got after the October Revolution. Scared enough to devote large resources, and an expanding secret apparatus, to the undermining of any domestic revolutionary force and the emergence of any future revolutionary class movement, a campaign extending to academia and the intellectual and artistic elite.
That notable difference serves to obscure to most people the thoroughly fascist nature of the present imperial regime. After all, the secret police aren't breaking down people's front doors at 4:00 AM because their kids let it slip at school that their daddy hated the president. But the moment an organized opposition raises its head, they will indeed turn up at the crack of dawn, as they have done with critical journalists and direct actionists. Nonetheless, the present-day fascists are at least as vigilant as any Gestapo as regards to what folks think and say. It's just that their priority targets are those who are most likely to give support to the actual resistance to Empire which, at the end of the day, always is and was anticolonial resistance. From an imperialist point of view, the main problem with the bolsheviks was that they threatened to put an end to colonialism. Wilson, Churchill, Clemenceau, and Ebert saw it just as clearly as Sun Ya Tsen and Ho Chi Minh. Hence the present focus on criminalizing anti-Zionist discourse. In the few countries where there is some organized popular resistance Left to the neoliberal/fascist political economy (at this point these terms are pretty much interchangeable), such as France, the public discourse increasingly demands that they be outlawed, expelled from Parliament, lawfared, etc.
This is why the empire and its satellite colonies are coming down so hard on all organizations and channels that provide any kind of support or legitimacy to forces actively resisting the empire's colonial projects. Today that means, first and foremost, anyone associated with the Axis of Resistance. Another similarity/difference to the first iteration is that this time the fascist empire has no inter-imperial rival. In the wake of WWII, it has been able to colonize its potential rivals in a way that the Third Reich could only partially do, having limited its reach to continental Europe. However Hitler balked before taking Britain and, of course, was never capable of swallowing up the US. Today the US has colonized all its potential rivals and imposes its ideological and economic yoke on them all. That's why we see European and Autralasian government officials echoing the worst, most debunked, most unhinged colonial atrocity propaganda. The only prize that escaped was Russia. By a fluke of history, though the empire had managed to engineer the collapse and pillage of the USSR, the chosen heir to their main imperial comprador, Yeltsin, went down the path of national sovereignty rather than further deliver its countries' natural resources to the insatiable appetites of the Western imperialists.
Excellent post with one caveat, I believe that the crown still controls the USA and it's resources. It's actually quite clever to defer the majority of the wet work on the States. The original families of incredible wealth and power came out of GB and Europe.
I think the conclusion doesn't account for the rising BRICS movement, China and Russia alone represent a significant block of the world that the west is now inferior to. Inefficiency stemming from incompetence corruption and nepotism are hallmarks of fascism, which has commonly led to the failure of such regimes. The west is very advanced in this decay, weapons that don't work, not meeting the needs of society, tilting everything to an increasingly bloated and incompetent elite. Russia and China have a different philosophy, despite many things that can be criticized, they both have management planning and priority systems that work far better than the invisible hand.
The west is ripe for more repressive fascism, they are sophisticated enough to meter it out as needed more or less, at least don't riol the fat complacent public without need. Electronic surveillance is also a major new component, they can probably more accurately gauge the challenge to their power by AI and data than by booting in someone's door to take them for questioning. The system will get as violent as necessary.
The west is ripe for a full collapse, resource and climate change issues have marked the end of exponential growth. The new growth will be by disposessing the too many mouths to feed, and done carefully it will be a boiling the frog exercise, starting with immigrants and visible minorities, those guilty of thought crimes etc. Like culling sheep, the herd gets smaller but stays tight and looks inward.
Phenomenal comment! You win the Internets today.
What was the essay that Adnan suggested to read?
On the Electronic Intifada article regarding the Amsterdam hooligans they do not mention folks fighting back against the hooligans. They focus on Western media spinning the assaults by the hooligans against Dutch citizens as being anti semitic attacks when they are in fact the opposite. Is there another source that talks about the resistance?
59:01 and they cry wolf when their a** gets whooped! They can be violent, but their victims can’t. Very hypocritical! Although it must be said that the actions of the hooligans brought harm on the rest of the fans who were not part of it.
Apart from having Mossad agents planning attacks and tactics at street level, I'm quite sure the Brown shirts did exactly the same in Germany pre 33. But there was no social media or a video device in every pocket, so when the legacy media and police said they were innocent it was tidily maintained as fact.
@1:20:10 Nope. Does the US electorate have the capacity to endure skipping a meal? Nope.
Edit: emphasis on "electorate"
Wait, I need to hear about erdogan in a closet 😂??
www.theguardian.com/world/video/2016/jul/15/erdogan-facetime-turkey-coup-attempt
around 25:00 to 26:00 when yall talk about the "is the US fascist?" question: the question strikes me as silly because it presupposes the liberal idea that Liberalism itself is acceptable, and so is colonialism, so long as it isn't labeled as or self aware of its fascism.
Settlers will say "fuck the U.S. but at least we aren't fascist/nazi germany" and "If we were a fascist country, I'd definitely stand against the establishment."
But those who utilize marxism as a science will understand that Fascism is a definite classification for a certain "mode of operation" of the bourgeoisie at certain times, not simply a morally worse "thing that happens that i don't like with extra oppression on top."
Whether the US is fascist at not, horrific things have been and are being done by it. All the oppressed nations affected by it know it's terror.
Not being fascist does not make these terrors acceptable to anyone but a liberal.
We must fight against all of it, fascist or not.
why do yu have so few women in this group?
exactly sina why?
We actually didn't include you on purpose
@@theeastisapodcast this is violence
we lady tankies are filing a complaint against this manel
Will you take it all the way to Tankie Supreme Court ?
Why do people use "neoliberalism" to refer to Dem libs? It's free market capitalism morphing from classical liberalism, which was a change in economic philosophy, not culture wars or modern lib Dem platform (as opposed to "liberalism", which is THE philosophy of Western democracy, parties aside, in general). Think Reagan, Thatcher, etc lol. It's thrown around lately to describe libs people don't like, usually by the weak left that is prevalent now. So it's misplaced here, on an actual Left podcast. Dems are headed right as fast as they can go now, incl economic theory, but even though Dems have always been hard capitalist, there was a hard lean towards regulated capitalism. But neoliberal? Not so much. Even Biden wasn't Thatcher. Clinton came closer, following Reagan as he did. IDK, maybe it's getting another meaning, but it sounds ignorant and creates much confusion, with all the meanings people assign to it. It's probably been created by the right, turning "liberals" into a dirty word, and the Left needs that also atm, but new words are needed to differentiate economic liberalism to social liberalism to Dems. MAGA well defines that wing of the GOP, Dem libs need a new term. Fascdems? I call them fake Dems. Mostly because they are so racist, best exemplified by coastal Calif, which was still segregated, last time I lived there!
At 8:39, I guess you mean reconcile it's way out of its own. Racism? Why don't people correct these mistakes. We are decimating language on all political sides and in all aspects of society and are diminishing expectations and it's making us all dumber. Not to attack this person personally for a slip or mistake of language, but it's everywhere and often worse and very damaging, especially to the less educated and marginalized who don't get the chance to learn proper language and beyond. There are very important implications beyond the obvious, and we must not give people passes and even interject and correct for clarity, to make sure we understand a point of view or citations, theory, etc.
1:16:00
1:32:11
33:50
Thank you!
You're welcome!
1:35:05