I just found your channel today via Mike Festiva, and I'm glad he mentioned you because I'm loving these vids. That Coleman rearend isn't very forgiving. Aside from airing the rear tire down, another option for rear suspension is to add a spring to the seat. Make a bracket for the seat and put the spring in the rear and a hinge point in the front. Your channel is going to get popular fast, I have a feeling.
@Justin May, thanks for coming over to my channel, I appreciate that! I agree with you about the rear end, its pretty rough, spring seat sounds good 👍thanks for the advice!🙂
Mike Festiva sent me here. My only suggestion is to make the front and back mounts universal so you can switch the spares to the front to keep weight over the forward wheel on steep climbs when the extra gas can is empty. I love this build. I'm inspired by your fabrication skill and attention to detail. I'm subscribed!
You have great fabrication skills!! I would suggest extending the wheelbase to the rear about 4" to 6" and adding footpegs about 18" back from the factory units. This would allow you to change the handling of the bike so it would climb much better and safer. With the longer rear wheelbase, it also would allow you to find tires 2" or 3" taller than what you have now for more air down capabilities and softer ride. The longer rear wheelbase would also allow you to put the Pelican style case on each side of the rear tire like panniers to lower the center of gravity for better handling.
@George Carousos thanks for all the advice and great ideas!👍🙂I will definitely keep that in mind for my future 2x2 build, I'm planning to build one from scratch!
If you stood up you would probably most likely drive over most if not all those obstacles in this video. Moving the pegs a bit backwards should also help. I have know somebody that was trail bike national campion at some point. They stand up all the time. Some of those bikes also have pretty short wheelbase. Great build btw! Mike Festiva sent me here 😊
@@OkayBuilds with tubes and bead-locks I've gone as low as ~3psi on sand on a full size 2x2 dirt bike. (tires compressed about 40% of their thickness at this pressure.) For rocks/trees I run 10-15psi to protect the rims and only run above 30psi on the road to keep the tires cool and limit squirming. I think you have bigger tires on a lighter bike, so scale the pressure down a bit.
@@OkayBuilds ua-cam.com/video/ZVdbT5dJw1A/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/6DEA8gkiQaY/v-deo.html Slightly fancier, but I've been building stuff forever and had a budget.
@@OkayBuilds You bet, I like your fab skills and straight forward way of explaining what you do. When I saw your Snow Trike videos I thought , oh he's in Colorado, but you are in the High Sierra's, Tahoe area. Anyway, thanks again for a great video.
@@OkayBuilds I'm in the North Bay, Santa Rosa, Ca. Sonoma County. But spend a lot of time in the Truckee Tahoe Donner area, my sister has a house there.
Pretty cool build. It works a lot better than I thought it would. I noticed while you were climbing hills the front end got rather light. (Just a suggestion) Try letting all the air out of the front tire and filling it up with windshield washer fluid. It’ll add weight to your front-end and give you more traction too. Oh, and I’m a new subscriber too. Keep up the good work!
I noticed u were losing some traction on the front end u should try some foot pegs at the rear and lean forward over the front wheel like the trail bikers do just a suggestion great build by the way.I think the rokon has fold away foot pegs.
Should upgrade it to taller tires so the disc and sprockets don't get bashed by rocks. Looks like it got pretty close a few times. Also the bigger tires would be a little cushier. Awesome build dude!
@Nathan LeMarbe, thanks man, I appreciate your interest in my build! Taller tires would be nice, but it would be a problem to integrate them into the frame, I'm planning to build a 2x2 from scratch with tall tires, stay tuned!🙂
I just subscribed today, what is the welder you use? The front needs more downforce for traction over obstacles , which you found out , but it looks like the bike would do well in the sand or even packed snow the way it is in this video.
@Atilliator, I heard about it, but in my case without the overrun clutch it would put alot of stress on the drivetrain on hard pavement, does Rocon has different ratios too?
@@OkayBuilds yes the Rockon has a higher gear on the front wheel, that's actually how I learned about it. The higher gear up front makes it easier to turn and more stable at high speeds, I don't think I'd put too much stress on it, just one more tooth on the back or one less on the front should be enough.
@Atilliator, that's interesting, maybe I should try that on my 2x2, my bike is pretty stable on high speeds, and it turns pretty easy on gravel, but when I turn on hart pavement I can feel that front wheel is tied to the rear, but not too bad
My experience is that you don't need to gear the front wheel slower. gearing the front wheel 0-3% faster works the best. Pavement is the pickiest about gearing while sand lets you vary gearing +-15% with minimal side effects.
Wow! I am completely impressed with your work sir! How long did it take you to complete this? I am subscribed!!! Do you do this for fun or do you build to sale? Thanks!!!
@Bradley Sweetin, thanks for subscribing, I appreciate your interest in my build!🙂 It took me about a month to complete this build, couple hours a day after work. I build this mini bike just for fun, always wanted a 2x2 mini bike!
I just found your channel today via Mike Festiva, and I'm glad he mentioned you because I'm loving these vids. That Coleman rearend isn't very forgiving. Aside from airing the rear tire down, another option for rear suspension is to add a spring to the seat. Make a bracket for the seat and put the spring in the rear and a hinge point in the front. Your channel is going to get popular fast, I have a feeling.
@Justin May, thanks for coming over to my channel, I appreciate that! I agree with you about the rear end, its pretty rough, spring seat sounds good 👍thanks for the advice!🙂
Looks like a fun place to explore! Your 2x2 mini bike is working really well 👍 thanks for posting 🙂
Thanks Mike! It is a beautiful place, I want to go there again!
Mike Festiva sent me here. My only suggestion is to make the front and back mounts universal so you can switch the spares to the front to keep weight over the forward wheel on steep climbs when the extra gas can is empty. I love this build. I'm inspired by your fabrication skill and attention to detail. I'm subscribed!
@James Green, thanks for coming over and subscribing, I appreciate that!🙂 That's a really good idea man!👍
I took a 175 Enduro down the Rubicon Trail in 1990. Heck of a fun time.
@Active Self Protection, it is alot of fun out there!
You have great fabrication skills!! I would suggest extending the wheelbase to the rear about 4" to 6" and adding footpegs about 18" back from the factory units. This would allow you to change the handling of the bike so it would climb much better and safer. With the longer rear wheelbase, it also would allow you to find tires 2" or 3" taller than what you have now for more air down capabilities and softer ride. The longer rear wheelbase would also allow you to put the Pelican style case on each side of the rear tire like panniers to lower the center of gravity for better handling.
@George Carousos thanks for all the advice and great ideas!👍🙂I will definitely keep that in mind for my future 2x2 build, I'm planning to build one from scratch!
That is one of the coolest, most practical and function builds I have ever seen. Looking forward to more content!
@SluSharkND, thanks, I appreciate your interest in my build! More videos coming, I got some interesting ideas!😉
If you stood up you would probably most likely drive over most if not all those obstacles in this video. Moving the pegs a bit backwards should also help.
I have know somebody that was trail bike national campion at some point. They stand up all the time. Some of those bikes also have pretty short wheelbase.
Great build btw! Mike Festiva sent me here 😊
@MrCaprinut, thanks for the advice, I will definitely try that! I appreciate you coming over!🙂
Awesome build looks like everything‘s working out great.
Please get some gloves first thing you do when you fall down is put your hands out.
@Tod Gardner, thanks for watching my video, and thanks for the advice, I agree with you!🙂
Great Video, I got excited seeing this out in the open. Awesome Build Too!
@len dog, thanks, I appreciate your interest in my project!🙂
Nice job. Looks like you'd get better grip and a little smoother ride with lower air pressure.
@Marty lawson, thanks! I dropped the pressure a little, but I will try dropping it even more next time, thanks for the advice!
@@OkayBuilds with tubes and bead-locks I've gone as low as ~3psi on sand on a full size 2x2 dirt bike. (tires compressed about 40% of their thickness at this pressure.) For rocks/trees I run 10-15psi to protect the rims and only run above 30psi on the road to keep the tires cool and limit squirming. I think you have bigger tires on a lighter bike, so scale the pressure down a bit.
@Marty lawson, that's good to know, thanks for the information! What kind of 2x2 dirt bike do you own?
@@OkayBuilds ua-cam.com/video/ZVdbT5dJw1A/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/6DEA8gkiQaY/v-deo.html Slightly fancier, but I've been building stuff forever and had a budget.
@Marty lawson, that's awesome, you're a genius bud! What u joint you guys used?
That bike is sick.
@Trent Jensen, thanks!🙂
Great video, enjoyed it very much. I didn't know you were in Northern California, my back yard too. Looking forward to more videos. Well done.
@beau brummel, thanks alot neighbor 😉 , I appreciate your interest in my build!
@@OkayBuilds You bet, I like your fab skills and straight forward way of explaining what you do. When I saw your Snow Trike videos I thought , oh he's in Colorado, but you are in the High Sierra's, Tahoe area. Anyway, thanks again for a great video.
@beau brummel, thanks alot bud! Yes, I'm from that area, what about you, what area do you live in?
@@OkayBuilds I'm in the North Bay, Santa Rosa, Ca. Sonoma County. But spend a lot of time in the Truckee Tahoe Donner area, my sister has a house there.
@beau brummel, ok, that's not too far, I'm familiar with that area!
Thanks for a informative video.planning to build trike with a front wheel drive.not awd.
Looks awesome! Throw on some rear mounted pegs to help keep the front wheel down for those inclines.
@Dustin Sanders, thanks bud!🙂 Pegs would help alot 👍 thanks for the advice!
Pretty cool build. It works a lot better than I thought it would. I noticed while you were climbing hills the front end got rather light. (Just a suggestion) Try letting all the air out of the front tire and filling it up with windshield washer fluid. It’ll add weight to your front-end and give you more traction too. Oh, and I’m a new subscriber too. Keep up the good work!
@RC Classic Crawlers, thanks, i appreciate you subscribing! Filling front tire with fluid is an awesome idea👍, I will definitely try that!🙂
Dude...awesome channel!😎
Killer build , great video !
@Busted Knuckles Builds, thanks bud!
I noticed u were losing some traction on the front end u should try some foot pegs at the rear and lean forward over the front wheel like the trail bikers do just a suggestion great build by the way.I think the rokon has fold away foot pegs.
@pat wheeler, thanks for the suggestion, that's a great idea my friend!🙂
Awesome very impressed.
@NewAGEAutoTechnology Hho thanks!
This is awesome, this would a hell of a way to go with a heavier motor
Helps if you run lower tire pressure too.
Should upgrade it to taller tires so the disc and sprockets don't get bashed by rocks. Looks like it got pretty close a few times. Also the bigger tires would be a little cushier. Awesome build dude!
@Nathan LeMarbe, thanks man, I appreciate your interest in my build! Taller tires would be nice, but it would be a problem to integrate them into the frame, I'm planning to build a 2x2 from scratch with tall tires, stay tuned!🙂
@@OkayBuilds Will do!
Cool build man looks fun
@Heathen Projects thanks!
So cool! Nice work
@drone explorer, thanks!🙂
Air down the tire a bit may help with traction ?! Great work on the bike
@Rick Watson, I already tried, and it was way better, thanks!🙂
How is everything holding up ? Really liked the build.
@NewAGEAutoTechnology Hho, everything seems to be holding pretty good, no problems so far! Thanks for your interest in my build!🙂
I just subscribed today, what is the welder you use? The front needs more downforce for traction over obstacles , which you found out , but it looks like the bike would do well in the sand or even packed snow the way it is in this video.
@gilbertdj, thanks for subscribing, I appreciate that! I'm using the Everlast lightning mts 225 welder, works pretty good, happy with it
Where can I find the gas can? That little thing is awesome!
@Abraheem Juma, thanks!🙂 I bought that gas can on Amazon, it was like $35
Well Done!
@thomas pryor, thanks!🙂
Use tires to your advantage lower psi will climb with ease.
@Salvador, I dropped the pressure a little, but I will try dropping it even more next time, thanks for the advice!
you should get some mud flaps for the front fender now @11:11
Need more front weight(?), to keep nose-down. Wonder at cost of conversion vis Rokon.
Nice toy!
@Cristian A, thanks!🙂
Nice build about how much did this cost you overall I would love to build my own
@Atomic Drop, thanks! I didn't really count how much, but approximately $500 for all the stuff I had to purchase
2x2 bikes usually have a slightly higher gear ratio on the front wheel.
@Atilliator, I heard about it, but in my case without the overrun clutch it would put alot of stress on the drivetrain on hard pavement, does Rocon has different ratios too?
@@OkayBuilds yes the Rockon has a higher gear on the front wheel, that's actually how I learned about it. The higher gear up front makes it easier to turn and more stable at high speeds, I don't think I'd put too much stress on it, just one more tooth on the back or one less on the front should be enough.
@Atilliator, that's interesting, maybe I should try that on my 2x2, my bike is pretty stable on high speeds, and it turns pretty easy on gravel, but when I turn on hart pavement I can feel that front wheel is tied to the rear, but not too bad
My experience is that you don't need to gear the front wheel slower. gearing the front wheel 0-3% faster works the best. Pavement is the pickiest about gearing while sand lets you vary gearing +-15% with minimal side effects.
Do you have a vid on the construction of this 2x2 mini?
Amazing!
How much weight did this add to the build?
I did not see if you had one but you need a torque converter a nice one and a stage 2 420cc predator engine
@mr.m, I think 420cc is a overkill for this minibike
I will try to make it
Mini rokon right 😁
Wow! I am completely impressed with your work sir! How long did it take you to complete this?
I am subscribed!!! Do you do this for fun or do you build to sale?
Thanks!!!
@Bradley Sweetin, thanks for subscribing, I appreciate your interest in my build!🙂 It took me about a month to complete this build, couple hours a day after work. I build this mini bike just for fun, always wanted a 2x2 mini bike!
Did you stop making videos?
How is your 2X2 mini bike holding up?
@newageautotechnology, its holding up pretty good, no problems whatsoever
@@OkayBuilds Glad to hear. I'm going to build that 2x2 the guy from Italy built. Hopefully you're still enjoying it. It looks like a good time.
@newageautotechnology, good luck with your build, 2x2's are fun
Nice
Try lower tire pressure
Could I pay you to do this for me??
@Atomic Drop, not at this moment, I'm really busy, don't even have time to build some projects