You know the episode is directed by Susan Flannery when you have unique and beautifully crafted scenes such as the Brooke/Ridge/Taylor. She's as skilled a director as she is an actress.
Is it? I wouldn't have guessed until I read the comments and replayed the credits to see her name as director. IMHO I didn't find anything radically unique or different that would indicate that Susan directed a particular taping.
@@acodsw8813Yes it's true. I watched her interview on TV. This was more then 20 years ago. She talked about they had the Christmas scene with Taylor and Brooke dancing in white dress.
It was lovely to see TRIDGE dancing with the haunting music.....only for Ridge to be rudely awakened with Mickey's voice - I've been waiting for you.... 😢
When Dickens wrote A Christmas Carol, he was building on a long, long tradition of “ghost” stories at Christmas. It’s nice to see a nod to that on B&B!!
@@annieo6527 do you know which decisions Susan Flannery made in this episode (she directed) and which were made by Bradley Bell? Because I’m not sure Bradley would ever have come up with that.
@@kristinazubic9669 I don't know, and this parallel may or may not have been intentional. But both Brooke and Taylor looked a bit "ghostly" in that dress, and after the "dream" was over, the soundtrack actually played _a Christmas carol._ I think you are on to something here! Another poster mentioned that this scene was Susan Flannery's idea, and I can absolutely imagine her coming up with a reference like that.
Also Taylor telling Dracina that the story would be "a little bit scary". Dracina is what, 10 years old? Rapunzel is not scary to kids half her age. (My 5yo will normally go "tell me something _dramatic and morbid!")_
Kind of foreshadowing Ridge's lab accident when she comes back wearing that disguise..... "And when Rapunzel's tears touched the Prince's face, his eyes were healed...."
Next time Taylor needs to choose a story that won't trigger her.😕 Loved the thunder and lightning when James comes to the realization that Lauren holds the key to Sheilas' big secret.🌩️ Ridges' daydream had me going, thought it was real until he imagined he was with Taylor and was brought back to reality. Great job by all the players. 💫
Thought it was real too. Until Brooke turned into Taylor.😳 So Ridge has Taylor on his mind…it is going to take time to heal. 😦 But Ridge’s reality now is Brooke and the children…even though he still feels a connection to Taylor.😇😦
@@bettyhopson You gotta feel for what Ridge has gone through, even though I'm not a Bridge fan, she's the best person to help him heal, not be alone, and cultivate a new life. Props to Brooke for being understanding and supportive here.
@@laurastrobel718 Yes, was thinking the same thing…Brooke being so understanding and empathetic to Ridge still grieving for Taylor. 👍 This scene showing that Ridge is having a moment of missing Taylor. We saw that with Caroline also. And we have seen Ridge daydreaming about Brooke too in certain situations when he chose to be with someone else.🤷♀️😊
@@bettyhopsonRidge should have taken the time to heal and not rush into a marriage with Brooke to try to numb the pain of his loss. That clearly hasn't worked. I may not be a fan of Brooke's. But I can see her discomfort at having to deal with Taylor's ghost at every turn (even if she tries to play it off as being understanding).
Must admit the ending of this episode was so magical. Almost made me believe Ridge yearned for Taylor's presence and love. Nowadays she's treated as just the woman who happened to give him 3 children. As if they never shared deep passion and a lovely life together.
Well, Ridge did love Taylor. But he loved Brooke first, and with much more passion. Consider this, Ridge and Brooke were poised to reunite after Caroline's death, but Eric asked Ridge not to take Brooke from him. It was only then that Ridge decided to go after Taylor. Then of course, we know Taylor came back, and Ridge took her back. But eventually the truth about Taylor and James' night comes out and Ridge takes Brooke back. Even before then, when Grant Chambers was with Brooke, Ridge was going to choose her over Taylor but there was a misunderstanding, the typical kiss Good-bye to Grant that Ridge saw through the window. Then Taylor returns from the dead(again) and Ridge chooses to stay with Brooke. He has left Taylor at the alter twice to go to Brooke. Yes, Ridge and Brooke get caught up in step-child drama, but there actually is a current neutrality in RJ Forrester. His presence should serve as a reminder that Brooke and Ridge have a child together, so being with Brooke is not choosing her kids over his own. Besides, it isn't always a blood connection that makes one a Forrester. Ridge is a Maroni. Curiously forgotten is the child that Brooke Shares with Taylor, of all people, Jack Moroni. I think he's off sailing with his dad, Ridge's brother.
@@daliaelkhatib1726 I think seeing Deacon and Sheila have a sort of star-cross love is interesting. As a terror, Sheila rocks, but back in her first three seasons on the show, she was the catalyst for just about all things moving forward. Eric and Brooke would have stayed married. Brooke would never have claimed ownership of BeLieF to leverage for 51 per cent of Forrester Creations. Then again, Forrester flourished under Brooke's direction. As soon as she signs over controlling interest, nobody can stay in the CEO chair very long. Sheila introduces Amber Moore, and that begins an entirely new saga, the Foresters 2.0
*Taylor as Rapunzel* The moment Taylor mentioned Rapunzel, I took notice and thought to myself, "okay, writers, let's see where you're going with this". I love to analyze themes in folk tales and at first I was not sure how far-reaching the parallels between Taylor and Rapunzel would be. The most obvious similarity is Taylor's captivity and her feeling of being "locked in a tower". But then she mentioned an evil witch and I realized that the only person this could possibly represent in Taylor's life was Omar, whom she (on a conscious level) now sees as a good man and a worthy husband. But this parallel indicates that Omar is not so good, and that on some level Taylor knows it, although she has suppressed it. Then there is the Prince. In the story, the Prince has actually found Rapunzel in the tower, but that is not the case in Taylor's life - Ridge has been in her "tower" but is unaware of it. And he has not been there secretly, but on the contrary came there as the _invited guest_ of the antagonist. So Ridge is not at all the kind of Prince that exists in the Rapunzel fairy tale. But then, curiously, Taylor mentions Rapunzel finding the Prince after many years, and after he has been _blinded._ Suddenly we are back in the world of B&B, and actually _foreshadowing_ future story developments. On the whole, I'd say there are certain details in the Rapunzel story that correspond to details in Taylor's story (the tower, the witch, the prince and his blindness), but the "thematic undercurrents" and don't really have very much in common. Rapunzel in the fairy tale is very much a damsel in distress, and the plot is driven by the other characters. Maybe Taylor does want to picture herself as Rapunzel in the tower because it takes away a lot of her agency, and thus the responsibility for her choice to stay in Morocco weighs less heavily on her.
Brilliant connection between Rapunzel's blind prince and Ridge's blindness! 👍 It suggests again that Taylor the character is torn between Brad's attempt to switch her position and his attempt to retain her archetype. Switching her with Brooke would mean making Taylor an Unreliable Narrator now (as Brooke often was as "the other woman") and we see that with Taylor being wrong that Ridge would leave Brooke for her for example. But as the Good Girl she should still be a Reliable Narrator and "predicting" Ridge's blindness is an example of that.
Ah, but the true love in Ridge's life, the one he always returns to, is Brooke. Taylor has never been the morally upright person some remember her to be. In later years, her machinations become more apparent.
@@andream5998 She mentioned Ridge dancing with Brooke at the same time his dancing with Taylor at Christmas. She mentioned it like it was a beautiful scene.
*Sheila & James at Big Bear* I think what Sheila is doing here with James is similar to something we’ve seen her do before with Eric. Before they were married, she once told Eric about wanting to become a new person and leaving the past behind but she didn’t tell him what exactly she was running from. That performance allowed Eric to see her as vulnerable and drew him closer to her. Similarly now she tells James the whole story about the fashion show nightmare but she leaves out the most crucial information (i.e. what Lauren told Eric in the dream). It’s like she running the same play, hoping she can get through this therapy session and make James think she's disclosing by giving him the contours of the plot but not the center. But the difference this time is that James is more formidable than Eric. He’s wise to Sheila’s manipulation tactics so she can’t deceive him the way she did Eric. She can’t control the plot anymore. And the reference to her fashion show nightmare underscores this. Back in episode 1386, I wrote that the show turning over several episodes to Sheila’s imagination marked her status as a strong Storyteller. It’s a reminder that back then she really could drive the plot. But notice this time how we don’t get flashbacks to the nightmare. All we get is Sheila’s narration - the show isn’t being turned over to her inner world anymore. Her status as a storyteller has diminished. And this is dangerous for Sheila because it makes her actually vulnerable to James (as opposed to with Eric where she was faking vulnerability). She really might tell James something she shouldn’t out of desperation and a lack of control. And as we shall see later on when Sheila holds James captive in her dungeon, she will also be vulnerable to him in a romantic sense as well.
Sheila had the nightmare after a car accident. She was on the verge of telling Eric everything. It was he who prevented her from speaking of it further. He said he did not care what she did in the past, or who she was, as long as she loves him.(sounds like boy band lyrics, but that is what he told her) Actually, the song came out not long after, so one probably inspired the other. The lyrics are so descriptive of their love story. At the time, Eric claims to at least care for and want to Sheila to be free from her past. Then he turns again, forgetting all concern, and treats her with complete disregard. Yes, Sheila was unstable. Instead of helping her overcome her challenges, the Foresters pushed her over the edge which culminated in her "Good-bye party."
All James had to do was ask Sheila which hospital she worked at and then call Genoa City Memorial and ask about Sheila Carter. BOOM. Mystery solved. 🤷♀
Hopefully it isn't the same nurse who last answered Steph's call and totally missed the whole article at the back of Sheila's file about her being dead....
@@theREALMattStaley But she's using her same name and presumably her same social security number so how is that working? She would be caught just by filing her taxes!
Eric jr & Bridget must be jealous of the care and attention their mother gives to their half brother while they are raised by the nanny's or auntie Katie😂😂
Brooke was always a good mother. Even Stephanie confided so, when she was telling Brook not to interfere with the trial Dylan was soon to have to endure.
*Ridge Reflects Taylor & Brooke* Annie's point that Ridge's fantasy is about how Brooke and Taylor are converging fits perfectly with my "Jane Eyre" post in episode 1905. I wrote about literary critics who identified a number of reflective surfaces in Victorian novels where two female archetypes blur and become each other and I applied that to Taylor seeing Brooke through the two-way mirror at the palace. Taylor and Brooke are an example of that phenomenon and they are switching roles in the story. And now here we have Ridge's fantasy also merging the two characters and so in this way, _Ridge himself is a reflective surface._ After all, Ridge is a fashion designer, his job is to reflect women's looks by creating clothes for them. And (like most of the male characters on this show), Ridge has always been more of an object for the female characters to fight over -- it's their subjectivity and agency that drives the plot and he is merely the goal. Thus Ridge is a _reflective object_ in the story and he can therefore reflect Taylor and Brooke. They can be seen through him (as in his fantasy here) and their position in the story is in relation to him (as wives, as rivals).
That’s what I loved about William bell writing he made so many relationships feel important and didn’t just choose his favorites always brought in so many new characters to
As Ridge wonders if he will ever get over Taylor, Brooke is in complete oblivion and cannot make sense of it as she had easily gotten over her 1st husband, Eric.
I would have preferred to see a dream sequence in which Taylor imagined herself as Rapunzel, Ridge as the prince and Brooke as the wicked witch😂. So much more entertaining than having her read the story to those half asleep children.
Hahaha....but I was a viewer waaaay back. On Y&R, not long after Sheila is introduced, attorney John Silva expresses an interest in restarting a past relationship he shared with Sheila. Of course, she was very into Scott Granger by then.
I love the last scene with Ridge dreaming of dancing with Taylor in his arms and getting rudely awakened by his so called "destiny" only to acknowledge that Brooke will never replace his true love.
The therapy scene with James and Sheila was well done - the way James asks for names from Sheila's past and she _doesn't lie_ but starts by mentioning real names that don't hit "too close to home" - Brad and Paul - who are actual people in Genoa City but not the ones directly involved in her baby stealing scheme (from what I know about that plot - I didn't watch Y&R at the time). Then she mentions Lauren, but immediately senses that it is too dangerous, so she deliberately trivializes the name by saying it was a passing acquaintance. But James _picks up on this_ attempt at changing the subject, and asks follow-up questions about Lauren. Finally, she opens up about her nightmare, but tries to avoid mentioning Lauren's name in that context, instead mentioning only "a woman", whom James correctly assumes is Lauren (because again she is trying to make the woman of the dream more vague than she actually is, corresponding to the way she tried to make Lauren's identity unimportant when she mentioned her name), and Sheila more or less confirms his suspicion by waiting a fraction of a second too long before denying that the woman was Lauren. The way Sheila tries to avoid exposing herself by telling James only those parts of the truth that aren't "dangerous" to her is _very_ believable and psychologically plausible.
Good breakdown! And you're so right. This fits with something I've noted about Sheila before: that she often includes _some_ truth in her lies which makes them more believable. It's the mark of a Master Manipulator.
@@NewYorkNick0607 I don't even think she is trying to lie here - it's more like the truth within her actually _wants_ to come out, so she keeps hinting at it, but then she stops herself because she knows it's too risky.
@@NewYorkNick0607you are so right. Sheila doesn't outright lie but she'll skirt the truth a lot. When she said, Brad, I chuckled... Brad who never interacted with Sheila except when he came over and threatened her for the negatives.
Paul was involved on the bay switch storylines , he finally finds out but Lauren was already took in hostage at the farm house , Paul Al long was with Lauren on this 91 and 92
I think what Sheila is doing here with James is similar to something we’ve seen her do before with Eric. Before they were married, she once told Eric about wanting to become a new person and leaving the past behind but she didn’t tell him what exactly she was running from. That performance allowed Eric to see her as vulnerable and drew him closer to her. Similarly now she tells James the whole story about the fashion show nightmare but she leaves out the most crucial information (i.e. what Lauren told Eric in the dream). It’s like she running the same play, hoping she can get through this therapy session and make James think she's disclosing by giving him the contours of the plot but not the center. But the difference this time is that James is more formidable than Eric. He’s wise to Sheila’s manipulation tactics so she can’t deceive him the way she did Eric. She can’t control the plot anymore. And the reference to her fashion show nightmare underscores this. Back in episode 1386, I wrote that the show turning over several episodes to Sheila’s imagination marked her status as a strong Storyteller. It’s a reminder that back then she really could drive the plot. But notice this time how we don’t get flashbacks to the nightmare. All we get is Sheila’s narration - the show isn’t being turned over to her inner world anymore. Her status as a storyteller has diminished. And this is dangerous for Sheila because it makes her _actually_ vulnerable to James (as opposed to with Eric where she was _faking_ vulnerability). She really might tell James something she shouldn’t out of desperation and a lack of control. And as we shall see later on when Sheila holds James captive in her dungeon, she will also be vulnerable to him in a romantic sense as well.
Sometimes I wonder.... Ridge spent the last Christmas with Brooke and the kids... and he wanted a Christmas kiss under the mistletoe. 😉 His wife was in Scotland with her future lover James Warwick😂
I know. Ridge has spent one Christmas with his wife Taylor (a pregnant Brooke then ending up at Big Bear), but the second Christmas Taylor has been in Europe. But the show already had Taylor rounding up the years they had been married.
@@babs4848 Well, Brooke and Taylor are kinda interchangeable for him (even today one turning into the other in his dream, the Christmas he has spent with Taylor but waited for Brooke to divorce Eric), so he might have get mixed up what Christmas he has spent with Brooke and what Christmas with Taylor. Brooke could have used mistletoe to remind him that the last Christmas has been special for everyone, Brooke and Ridge and the kids, James and Taylor 😅
@@mara4450we can say also that he spent last Christmas with Brooke and the children and desperately wanted Taylor with him. And he spent another Christmas, before the Tridge wedding, with Taylor but wanted to marry Brooke, not so desperately ( sorry I'm a Taylor fan 😂). So it all makes sense from his point of view😅
@@mara4450 You make a valid point on Brooke and Taylor being interchangeable for Ridge.💕 After dreaming about Taylor he’ll be back in Brooke’s arms loving every minute of that. 💋❤ We’ve seen Ridge daydreaming about Brooke before his marriage to Caroline and Taylor. 🤔💕
Taylor is "dead" yet Ridge is still waffling between her and Brooke in his mind. He is the Waffle King!! Brooke is so happy to finally be his wife that she keeps playing along with the fake niceties about Taylor. "Taylor was a wonderful woman...blah...blah...blah"😆😆.
I tell u.. IF Brooke has to hear Taylor's name out Ridge's mouth.. One. More. Time 😂😂 She's tried everything.. Constant s E x/seduction...calling professional help..dangling Forrester shares to become more "Family" oriented... And still this man of hers will not stop talking about Taylor 😂😂
How depressing. The supposed therapist telling children how dreams dont always turn out happy and walked away. What a great Christmas story to tell children.
@@susankent6051 kind of like the ones who Every episode call Brooke a ho? Why is that? Because KKL was with B&B from the start, hasn't been vain enough to alter her face or left the show repeatedly and has proven herself to be an actress who is committed to B&B? At least Brooke went to college and invented the Belief formula For the Forresters. Yes Brooke the character has slept with different men. So has Taylor. Taylor IS portraying a Therapist is she not? The actress Hunter Tylo was beautiful back in the day but comes off as a character who needs mental help.
@@joycheek6756😂😂🙈🙈don't let me get started on how many therapy sessions Brooke needs ...and it's so easy to always need to compare Brooke to Taylor,when there are no arguments left
@@joycheek6756Many people don't understand the difference between tv and reality...they are obsessed with soap characters to a point that they would even attack you personally for supporting a character and the hate they have for the character is very real
I see the uploader stayed in the 1940 seriers. Just two days ago We were in the 1973 numbers that put us in Febuary of 1995. Thanks for the uplosd !! Taylor don't use the children as an Excuse for your "New" Love !!!
What are you talking about? Taylor doesn't need any excuse to love handsome Prince Omar! He's tall, good-looking, powerful and rich, all the qualities and attributes any woman on Earth could desire!
@@rafaelauger8865She doesn't love him. And he made her life miserable. Then it was her choice to keep her life miserable, staying at the palace with him...
So, I guess Stephanie was right. Rigde wasn't over Taylors death and wasn't really ready to move on and get married. Brooke was and is only a rebound and a consolation prize. Like also Sheila and Brooke were for eric.
A major factor is played by his daughter too. He desperately wanted to give his child a family. I don't say that he doesn't love Brooke. But he clearly was not ready.
@@babs4848clearly trying to replace one wife with another has not worked (which is exactly what he did, and which is why I cannot see him being with Brooke at this point as some great romance). At least with Caroline he took time to grieve.. Went off on his bike, grew a beard, etc.. This marriage, even if it was to give his daughter a live in father, was just too rushed bc he didn't properly grieve. Steph knew that more than anyone else. And Omar underestimated that completely. Which is why I wished Steph was the one to start the hunt for Taylor and go up against Omar to get Taylor back home.
@@babs4848you do realize he wont take taylor back…if anything wt is happening shows how strong Bridge bond is and how understanding brooke is in comparison to taylor not so many months ago
Nobody should be ready to move on after 3 months of a spouse dying , and go marry another.That much I agree with.Ridge certainly isn’t over Taylor’s death ..Does anyone really ever get over a death?? Brooke isn’t a rebound or consolation prize though .Ridge already admitted to Brook that he buried his love for her when he was with Taylor.He never said he stopped loving her .He is happy with Brooke now ,but I am glad they are showing he is human and still remembers and has love for his beloved ‘dead’ wife too.
Man (14:36) takes me back to the edge if your seat writing under the Bill Bell regime. Sheila recalls the iconic dream sequence with my Lauren 🥰 ❤🔥 in it, episode 1386, an absolutely fantastic sequence. Eric didn't believe Lauren though, he wasn't even sold even when a police officer showed him a Newspaper article 📰 of Sheila being dead from a fire, with proof that the Genoa City police had a warrant for Sheila Carter, _they had 6 felony charges against Sheila_ before she "died". Even in a dream Eric was *on brand* as a *wishy-washy idiot* he was like _apparently this is a very different Sheila Carter._ Lauren was understandably neurotic, as the preeminent storyteller all Steph had to do was chip in at 10:06 and say 🗣💬 *_I think this woman is telling the truth and it's simple enough to verify the truth isn't it? You don't have any objection to that do you Sheila or do you?_* Then Sheila went with a remix of her bestseller "I've Changed" 🎶🎵 *_Can't a person just change? Don't you realize I am not the same person? I'm a very different person from the woman that Lauren is describing_* It's just not the same anymore 🙅♂
Ridge is longing for his true love and his true wife Taylor he cannot shake the feeling that she is alive and she is his soul mate he dreams about her all he can think about is her Brooke is standing there and she does not mean anything to him besides Taylor thats how much he loves Taylor and we all await Taylor's return
Taylor wasn’t even home for Christmas last Year Ridge.She was with James helping him and his father. So a couple of Christmas together?? I think just one
Yes, I think you are right. They had one Christmas together. Nice that Ridge is remembering the good times…because there were some rough patches right before Taylor’s plane crash! 🤨 What happened to Ridge being convinced this is what Taylor wanted…him to be happy with Brooke? LOL😆
What a hypocrite Brooke is: " she was a wonderful woman"....And then when Taylor gets back, she will be snaky and arrogant to her as always. She's only said that because of Ridge. But then gain, no surprise there, since she's always been so easy to read. And I can't stand the way she always talks to Ridge, as if he was a child( well, he's her stepson)😂🙈
She's been hypocritical about Taylor from the start. But I guess now it's even worse.. I guess someone taught Brooke it's poor taste to speak ill of the dead lol
The fact that Ridge fantasizes about dancing with a woman dressed in white, and first the woman in his daydream has Brooke's face and then she has Taylor's face while the white dress stays the same... interpretations? I feel the "Ridge isn't over Taylor and really wants to be married to her instead of Brooke" is too simplistic. He is daydreaming about _both_ of them, and they are _both_ wearing the same imaginary dress. Maybe this daydream is really about how these two women are slowly converging into one woman in his mind (as they are in the writing)? And, on that note, I wonder if we'll be able to pinpoint the moment when Taylor's downward trajectory and Brooke's upward trajectory intersect. In the beginning, we could agree that he would have gone back to Taylor if she had revealed herself right away. When she _does_ reveal herself, it's too late and Ridge stays with Brooke. So where is the moment when this shift occurs? Is _this_ that moment, when both women actually intersect visually?
Annie, great insights. Good questions. Interesting that dancing with Brooke changes into Taylor…so must be Taylor hasn’t faded from his subconscious mind? This seems much like the way Ridge’s thoughts went back to Caroline as he moved on with Brooke and Taylor.😮 Interesting that you bring up when the trajectory changes…toward Brooke and not back to Taylor? I’m thinking after Taylor reveals herself…that the choice becomes more complicated due to Taylor’s time away and her explanation of her absence. Ridge and Brooke had bonded as a family and enough time had elapsed that Ridge chose to stay with Brooke this time…out of love and commitment!😌 Also could be Brooke hugging Ridge and saying “it will take time, Ridge.” could be a foreshadowing of what is to come?
I really do enjoy your objective analyse and view to that scene. I agree thats to simple to say he loved taylor moore... or Brooke more. Both woman gave him a lot and different feelings.. but indeed with both it is love... my opinion.
By the time Taylor will be coming back Bridge would be a very solid couple at least that is what I recall. Like your analysis, balanced and interesting.
_"Maybe this daydream is really about how these two women are slowly converging into one woman in his mind (as they are in the writing)?"_ Ooh Annie I really love this analysis! In my "Jane Eyre" post (episode 1905), I wrote how the _Madwoman in the Attic_ literary critics identify a number of reflective surfaces in Victorian novels where two female archetypes are blurred and a pro-women subtext is revealed. In this case, RIDGE is the reflective surface through which both women can be seen and (as you say) are blurring and becoming each other. After all (as you and I have identified many times) Ridge is merely _an object_ while the women are subjects. So it makes sense that he would be the vessel through which they merge. Both Taylor and Brooke see themselves and each other through Ridge (as wives, as rivals) and their position in the story depends on their relation to him.
Just adding….I think Ridge seeing Brooke then Taylor in his daydream melding together could be what you are suggesting that he loves both (seeing them as one person). I wonder if that is what the writers are conveying? I think viewers could miss that…they could see that as Ridge wanting Brooke to be Taylor? Great point and observation… 👏 Annie, you are such a deep thinker. Love that…🤗
Because after 5 years Caroline seems to be not just buried but also forgotten. After Christmas/ at New Years Ridge in 1989 has proposed to Caroline, so Christmas could have been a time that triggers some memories too, but no, no more memories of Caroline for Ridge, no mentioning of visiting her grave.
Because it's about Taylor, not Caroline! But don't worry, Ridge has never forgotten the love of his life Caroline. He will even talk to Caroline junior about her....😊
If Taylor wasn't already "dead" Brooke would prob k I L L her for interfering in her princess fairytale life 😂 Now Brooke has to figure how not to look insecure competing against a ghost😂😂
LOL, that's funny. Your comment reminded me of her line years ago when her and Taylor were catfighting up at Big Bear and Brooke told Taylor "You were more competition in the grave than you were when you popped out of it." She definitely looks threatened here.
you mean corrapted damaged shattered today it is not the bold and the beautiful because all they do is sick relationships thank god i stopped watching years ago
You are so right, Taylor, about the fact that life rarely has happy endings : for instance, you should have stayed forever with Prince Omar and given him many children and many sons to carry on his royal legacy! Instead, you'll eventually leave that gem of a man and go back to cat alley Ridge and his super superficial life style of the fashion industry!
They really dragging this story out. Let’s get to the 2000s already cause this is a bore. I’m surprised the show didn’t get cancelled during this season.
Not sure about the *most* boring *ever* part, but yes, the episode is pretty boring. (so just look if there is something to have fun with) 😉Even the "yay" of the kids didn't sound that excited. Maybe Dracina wasn't afraid to hear a scary story but would have enjoyed to hear one instead of that sad and depressing Rapunzel story that had the storyteller almost tearing up afterwards.
I always loved that this episode was directed by the phenomenal Susan Flannery 😊😊
These are priceless episodes. Classic.
I agree... the classics are so much better than the current episodes @@jackack1429
You know the episode is directed by Susan Flannery when you have unique and beautifully crafted scenes such as the Brooke/Ridge/Taylor. She's as skilled a director as she is an actress.
Is it? I wouldn't have guessed until I read the comments and replayed the credits to see her name as director. IMHO I didn't find anything radically unique or different that would indicate that Susan directed a particular taping.
@@acodsw8813 Thank you for writing exactly what I was thinking!
@@acodsw8813Yes it's true. I watched her interview on TV. This was more then 20 years ago. She talked about they had the Christmas scene with Taylor and Brooke dancing in white dress.
Her absence is greatly missed (and noticed)
I don't even need to say anything! The jokes write themselves! 🤣
It was lovely to see TRIDGE dancing with the haunting music.....only for Ridge to be rudely awakened with Mickey's voice - I've been waiting for you....
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Aren’t you forgetting Ridge started out dancing lovingly with Brooke…💕
Once again depicting Ridge and his divided heart…🤔😊
"Mickey's voice" LMAO 😂
When Dickens wrote A Christmas Carol, he was building on a long, long tradition of “ghost” stories at Christmas. It’s nice to see a nod to that on B&B!!
And Ridge is dancing with the ghosts of Christmases past, present, and future, all at once!
@@annieo6527 do you know which decisions Susan Flannery made in this episode (she directed) and which were made by Bradley Bell? Because I’m not sure Bradley would ever have come up with that.
@@kristinazubic9669 I don't know, and this parallel may or may not have been intentional. But both Brooke and Taylor looked a bit "ghostly" in that dress, and after the "dream" was over, the soundtrack actually played _a Christmas carol._
I think you are on to something here!
Another poster mentioned that this scene was Susan Flannery's idea, and I can absolutely imagine her coming up with a reference like that.
Those orphans sounded as excited to see Princess Laila and hear that story, as I am to hear sales reports at a business meeting...
Also Taylor telling Dracina that the story would be "a little bit scary". Dracina is what, 10 years old? Rapunzel is not scary to kids half her age. (My 5yo will normally go "tell me something _dramatic and morbid!")_
Kind of foreshadowing Ridge's lab accident when she comes back wearing that disguise..... "And when Rapunzel's tears touched the Prince's face, his eyes were healed...."
Next time Taylor needs to choose a story that won't trigger her.😕 Loved the thunder and lightning when James comes to the realization that Lauren holds the key to Sheilas' big secret.🌩️ Ridges' daydream had me going, thought it was real until he imagined he was with Taylor and was brought back to reality. Great job by all the players. 💫
Thought it was real too. Until Brooke turned into Taylor.😳 So Ridge has Taylor on his mind…it is going to take time to heal. 😦
But Ridge’s reality now is Brooke and the children…even though he still feels a connection to Taylor.😇😦
@@bettyhopson You gotta feel for what Ridge has gone through, even though I'm not a Bridge fan, she's the best person to help him heal, not be alone, and cultivate a new life. Props to Brooke for being understanding and supportive here.
@@laurastrobel718
Yes, was thinking the same thing…Brooke being so understanding and empathetic to Ridge still grieving for Taylor. 👍
This scene showing that Ridge is having a moment of missing Taylor. We saw that with Caroline also. And we have seen Ridge daydreaming about Brooke too in certain situations when he chose to be with someone else.🤷♀️😊
@@bettyhopson Lol
@@bettyhopsonRidge should have taken the time to heal and not rush into a marriage with Brooke to try to numb the pain of his loss. That clearly hasn't worked.
I may not be a fan of Brooke's. But I can see her discomfort at having to deal with Taylor's ghost at every turn (even if she tries to play it off as being understanding).
Must admit the ending of this episode was so magical. Almost made me believe Ridge yearned for Taylor's presence and love. Nowadays she's treated as just the woman who happened to give him 3 children. As if they never shared deep passion and a lovely life together.
My words exactly😊👍
Well, Ridge did love Taylor. But he loved Brooke first, and with much more passion. Consider this, Ridge and Brooke were poised to reunite after Caroline's death, but Eric asked Ridge not to take Brooke from him. It was only then that Ridge decided to go after Taylor. Then of course, we know Taylor came back, and Ridge took her back. But eventually the truth about Taylor and James' night comes out and Ridge takes Brooke back. Even before then, when Grant Chambers was with Brooke, Ridge was going to choose her over Taylor but there was a misunderstanding, the typical kiss Good-bye to Grant that Ridge saw through the window. Then Taylor returns from the dead(again) and Ridge chooses to stay with Brooke. He has left Taylor at the alter twice to go to Brooke. Yes, Ridge and Brooke get caught up in step-child drama, but there actually is a current neutrality in RJ Forrester. His presence should serve as a reminder that Brooke and Ridge have a child together, so being with Brooke is not choosing her kids over his own. Besides, it isn't always a blood connection that makes one a Forrester. Ridge is a Maroni. Curiously forgotten is the child that Brooke Shares with Taylor, of all people, Jack Moroni. I think he's off sailing with his dad, Ridge's brother.
@@cjmiller6741 wouldn't it be great if Nick came back?
to day the show is a faliure
@@daliaelkhatib1726 I think seeing Deacon and Sheila have a sort of star-cross love is interesting. As a terror, Sheila rocks, but back in her first three seasons on the show, she was the catalyst for just about all things moving forward. Eric and Brooke would have stayed married. Brooke would never have claimed ownership of BeLieF to leverage for 51 per cent of Forrester Creations. Then again, Forrester flourished under Brooke's direction. As soon as she signs over controlling interest, nobody can stay in the CEO chair very long. Sheila introduces Amber Moore, and that begins an entirely new saga, the Foresters 2.0
This was the night I could tell Ridge looked at me and saw a beautiful woman.
😂😂😂
This is top tier! 😂🤣
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂 I can hear this in Brooke's delusional voice too! 🤣🤣🤣
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*Taylor as Rapunzel*
The moment Taylor mentioned Rapunzel, I took notice and thought to myself, "okay, writers, let's see where you're going with this". I love to analyze themes in folk tales and at first I was not sure how far-reaching the parallels between Taylor and Rapunzel would be.
The most obvious similarity is Taylor's captivity and her feeling of being "locked in a tower". But then she mentioned an evil witch and I realized that the only person this could possibly represent in Taylor's life was Omar, whom she (on a conscious level) now sees as a good man and a worthy husband. But this parallel indicates that Omar is not so good, and that on some level Taylor knows it, although she has suppressed it.
Then there is the Prince. In the story, the Prince has actually found Rapunzel in the tower, but that is not the case in Taylor's life - Ridge has been in her "tower" but is unaware of it. And he has not been there secretly, but on the contrary came there as the _invited guest_ of the antagonist. So Ridge is not at all the kind of Prince that exists in the Rapunzel fairy tale.
But then, curiously, Taylor mentions Rapunzel finding the Prince after many years, and after he has been _blinded._ Suddenly we are back in the world of B&B, and actually _foreshadowing_ future story developments.
On the whole, I'd say there are certain details in the Rapunzel story that correspond to details in Taylor's story (the tower, the witch, the prince and his blindness), but the "thematic undercurrents" and don't really have very much in common. Rapunzel in the fairy tale is very much a damsel in distress, and the plot is driven by the other characters. Maybe Taylor does want to picture herself as Rapunzel in the tower because it takes away a lot of her agency, and thus the responsibility for her choice to stay in Morocco weighs less heavily on her.
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It's Taylor trying so hard to move on but she's really trapped in a tower, away from the "prince" she really wants.
@@TriniT21exactly👏👏👏
Brilliant connection between Rapunzel's blind prince and Ridge's blindness! 👍 It suggests again that Taylor the character is torn between Brad's attempt to switch her position and his attempt to retain her archetype. Switching her with Brooke would mean making Taylor an Unreliable Narrator now (as Brooke often was as "the other woman") and we see that with Taylor being wrong that Ridge would leave Brooke for her for example. But as the Good Girl she should still be a Reliable Narrator and "predicting" Ridge's blindness is an example of that.
Ah, but the true love in Ridge's life, the one he always returns to, is Brooke. Taylor has never been the morally upright person some remember her to be. In later years, her machinations become more apparent.
The last scene was Susan Flannery's idea. I remember watching her interview on tv
What was her idea, the dancing scene with Taylor and rigde or brookes annoying voice interfereing in it?
@@andream5998 She mentioned Ridge dancing with Brooke at the same time his dancing with Taylor at Christmas. She mentioned it like it was a beautiful scene.
Was this the first episode of B&B Susan Flannery directed?
@@memento-_mori nicht, she has already directed a couple episodes.
Here first directing credit for b&b is episode 1162 (in 1991).
@@memento-_morino
*Sheila & James at Big Bear*
I think what Sheila is doing here with James is similar to something we’ve seen her do before with Eric. Before they were married, she once told Eric about wanting to become a new person and leaving the past behind but she didn’t tell him what exactly she was running from. That performance allowed Eric to see her as vulnerable and drew him closer to her. Similarly now she tells James the whole story about the fashion show nightmare but she leaves out the most crucial information (i.e. what Lauren told Eric in the dream). It’s like she running the same play, hoping she can get through this therapy session and make James think she's disclosing by giving him the contours of the plot but not the center.
But the difference this time is that James is more formidable than Eric. He’s wise to Sheila’s manipulation tactics so she can’t deceive him the way she did Eric. She can’t control the plot anymore. And the reference to her fashion show nightmare underscores this. Back in episode 1386, I wrote that the show turning over several episodes to Sheila’s imagination marked her status as a strong Storyteller. It’s a reminder that back then she really could drive the plot. But notice this time how we don’t get flashbacks to the nightmare. All we get is Sheila’s narration - the show isn’t being turned over to her inner world anymore. Her status as a storyteller has diminished.
And this is dangerous for Sheila because it makes her actually vulnerable to James (as opposed to with Eric where she was faking vulnerability). She really might tell James something she shouldn’t out of desperation and a lack of control. And as we shall see later on when Sheila holds James captive in her dungeon, she will also be vulnerable to him in a romantic sense as well.
Sheila had the nightmare after a car accident. She was on the verge of telling Eric everything. It was he who prevented her from speaking of it further. He said he did not care what she did in the past, or who she was, as long as she loves him.(sounds like boy band lyrics, but that is what he told her)
Actually, the song came out not long after, so one probably inspired the other. The lyrics are so descriptive of their love story. At the time, Eric claims to at least care for and want to Sheila to be free from her past. Then he turns again, forgetting all concern, and treats her with complete disregard. Yes, Sheila was unstable. Instead of helping her overcome her challenges, the Foresters pushed her over the edge which culminated in her "Good-bye party."
All James had to do was ask Sheila which hospital she worked at and then call Genoa City Memorial and ask about Sheila Carter. BOOM. Mystery solved. 🤷♀
Hopefully it isn't the same nurse who last answered Steph's call and totally missed the whole article at the back of Sheila's file about her being dead....
The brilliant psychiatrist doesn’t think like us commoners.😂
@@-Lily7415relax, it's just a soap, crazy! Stop projecting too😂😂
@@susankent6051 Wow
@@theREALMattStaley But she's using her same name and presumably her same social security number so how is that working? She would be caught just by filing her taxes!
Brooke feigning understanding while inside she’s like god damn it Taylor!
She can't catch a break since the wedding 😂
Eric jr & Bridget must be jealous of the care and attention their mother gives to their half brother while they are raised by the nanny's or auntie Katie😂😂
Brooke was always a good mother. Even Stephanie confided so, when she was telling Brook not to interfere with the trial Dylan was soon to have to endure.
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I like the way they did Hunters makeup.
And Brooke suffers another premature death inside with a husband's pre-occupatiom with his ex-wife.
She takes it rather well because she thinks the competition is dead
Ridge can bury Brooke in the _pet_ cemetery! 😂
@@ConnorWilliams163 isn't there a cemetery for veterans?
😂😂😂to all of you!!
as if she has feelings
I can’t stand Brooke but I do feel sorry for her. Ridge really does love and miss Taylor. Brooke has no idea what she’s in for!!
*Ridge Reflects Taylor & Brooke*
Annie's point that Ridge's fantasy is about how Brooke and Taylor are converging fits perfectly with my "Jane Eyre" post in episode 1905. I wrote about literary critics who identified a number of reflective surfaces in Victorian novels where two female archetypes blur and become each other and I applied that to Taylor seeing Brooke through the two-way mirror at the palace. Taylor and Brooke are an example of that phenomenon and they are switching roles in the story. And now here we have Ridge's fantasy also merging the two characters and so in this way, _Ridge himself is a reflective surface._
After all, Ridge is a fashion designer, his job is to reflect women's looks by creating clothes for them. And (like most of the male characters on this show), Ridge has always been more of an object for the female characters to fight over -- it's their subjectivity and agency that drives the plot and he is merely the goal. Thus Ridge is a _reflective object_ in the story and he can therefore reflect Taylor and Brooke. They can be seen through him (as in his fantasy here) and their position in the story is in relation to him (as wives, as rivals).
That’s what I loved about William bell writing he made so many relationships feel important and didn’t just choose his favorites always brought in so many new characters to
As Ridge wonders if he will ever get over Taylor, Brooke is in complete oblivion and cannot make sense of it as she had easily gotten over her 1st husband, Eric.
she has thick skin she does not fell he does not love her it s obvious
I would have preferred to see a dream sequence in which Taylor imagined herself as Rapunzel, Ridge as the prince and Brooke as the wicked witch😂. So much more entertaining than having her read the story to those half asleep children.
That would have been interesting, indeed!
I find it so funny that Brad is the first name that comes to mind for Sheila, considering that he bears an uncanny resemblance to "Dollar Bill". lol
Hahaha....but I was a viewer waaaay back. On Y&R, not long after Sheila is introduced, attorney John Silva expresses an interest in restarting a past relationship he shared with Sheila. Of course, she was very into Scott Granger by then.
Now he's seeing Taylor again wow why would i get married to another if im still grieving my wife it takes more than a couple of months. 😒
Because Ridge is in love with Ridge
Exactly!
I love the last scene with Ridge dreaming of dancing with Taylor in his arms and getting rudely awakened by his so called "destiny" only to acknowledge that Brooke will never replace his true love.
We only have another 8 weeks of Ridge and his "Replacement" Bride !!
True love?
In his defense he rarely if ever calls her his destiny
I thought the dream sequence was real at first until Ridge pictured Taylor. Very well done. 🌠
@@prasad9002 true love :)
And baby Bell came in and ruined it all Trideg forever!
exactly😊👍❤
Obsessed with Hogan from the Valley! 😂
The therapy scene with James and Sheila was well done - the way James asks for names from Sheila's past and she _doesn't lie_ but starts by mentioning real names that don't hit "too close to home" - Brad and Paul - who are actual people in Genoa City but not the ones directly involved in her baby stealing scheme (from what I know about that plot - I didn't watch Y&R at the time).
Then she mentions Lauren, but immediately senses that it is too dangerous, so she deliberately trivializes the name by saying it was a passing acquaintance. But James _picks up on this_ attempt at changing the subject, and asks follow-up questions about Lauren.
Finally, she opens up about her nightmare, but tries to avoid mentioning Lauren's name in that context, instead mentioning only "a woman", whom James correctly assumes is Lauren (because again she is trying to make the woman of the dream more vague than she actually is, corresponding to the way she tried to make Lauren's identity unimportant when she mentioned her name), and Sheila more or less confirms his suspicion by waiting a fraction of a second too long before denying that the woman was Lauren.
The way Sheila tries to avoid exposing herself by telling James only those parts of the truth that aren't "dangerous" to her is _very_ believable and psychologically plausible.
Good breakdown! And you're so right. This fits with something I've noted about Sheila before: that she often includes _some_ truth in her lies which makes them more believable. It's the mark of a Master Manipulator.
@@NewYorkNick0607 I don't even think she is trying to lie here - it's more like the truth within her actually _wants_ to come out, so she keeps hinting at it, but then she stops herself because she knows it's too risky.
@@NewYorkNick0607you are so right.
Sheila doesn't outright lie but she'll skirt the truth a lot.
When she said, Brad, I chuckled... Brad who never interacted with Sheila except when he came over and threatened her for the negatives.
Paul was involved on the bay switch storylines , he finally finds out but Lauren was already took in hostage at the farm house , Paul Al long was with Lauren on this 91 and 92
I think what Sheila is doing here with James is similar to something we’ve seen her do before with Eric. Before they were married, she once told Eric about wanting to become a new person and leaving the past behind but she didn’t tell him what exactly she was running from. That performance allowed Eric to see her as vulnerable and drew him closer to her. Similarly now she tells James the whole story about the fashion show nightmare but she leaves out the most crucial information (i.e. what Lauren told Eric in the dream). It’s like she running the same play, hoping she can get through this therapy session and make James think she's disclosing by giving him the contours of the plot but not the center.
But the difference this time is that James is more formidable than Eric. He’s wise to Sheila’s manipulation tactics so she can’t deceive him the way she did Eric. She can’t control the plot anymore. And the reference to her fashion show nightmare underscores this. Back in episode 1386, I wrote that the show turning over several episodes to Sheila’s imagination marked her status as a strong Storyteller. It’s a reminder that back then she really could drive the plot. But notice this time how we don’t get flashbacks to the nightmare. All we get is Sheila’s narration - the show isn’t being turned over to her inner world anymore. Her status as a storyteller has diminished.
And this is dangerous for Sheila because it makes her _actually_ vulnerable to James (as opposed to with Eric where she was _faking_ vulnerability). She really might tell James something she shouldn’t out of desperation and a lack of control. And as we shall see later on when Sheila holds James captive in her dungeon, she will also be vulnerable to him in a romantic sense as well.
Sometimes I wonder.... Ridge spent the last Christmas with Brooke and the kids... and he wanted a Christmas kiss under the mistletoe. 😉 His wife was in Scotland with her future lover James Warwick😂
I know. Ridge has spent one Christmas with his wife Taylor (a pregnant Brooke then ending up at Big Bear), but the second Christmas Taylor has been in Europe. But the show already had Taylor rounding up the years they had been married.
Well he spent another Christmas with Taylor, great scenes and dialogue back then, and he was willing to marry Brooke. So I wonder too.
@@babs4848 Well, Brooke and Taylor are kinda interchangeable for him (even today one turning into the other in his dream, the Christmas he has spent with Taylor but waited for Brooke to divorce Eric), so he might have get mixed up what Christmas he has spent with Brooke and what Christmas with Taylor.
Brooke could have used mistletoe to remind him that the last Christmas has been special for everyone, Brooke and Ridge and the kids, James and Taylor 😅
@@mara4450we can say also that he spent last Christmas with Brooke and the children and desperately wanted Taylor with him. And he spent another Christmas, before the Tridge wedding, with Taylor but wanted to marry Brooke, not so desperately ( sorry I'm a Taylor fan 😂). So it all makes sense from his point of view😅
@@mara4450
You make a valid point on Brooke and Taylor being interchangeable for Ridge.💕
After dreaming about Taylor he’ll be back in Brooke’s arms loving every minute of that. 💋❤
We’ve seen Ridge daydreaming about Brooke before his marriage to Caroline and Taylor. 🤔💕
Ridge is going nuts😅
ge needs brooke in a bikini to get his mind of of taylor
@@jkonczwell that clearly hasn't worked😂
would go nuts trying to juggle too women
Taylor is "dead" yet Ridge is still waffling between her and Brooke in his mind. He is the Waffle King!! Brooke is so happy to finally be his wife that she keeps playing along with the fake niceties about Taylor. "Taylor was a wonderful woman...blah...blah...blah"😆😆.
He's grappling with survivor's guilt at this time. The truth is, he loved Brooke first and always chooses her, eventually.
@@ambika66681he is a player if he could have both women at the same time he would
@@cjmiller6741😂😂 Lies
@@nishg3851 I am assuming you are following the current storyline? Taylor is about as dishonest as anyone could be. She's just very nice about it.
@@cjmiller6741 😂😂 more lies
Season of Bridge! 🤭😂
Three cheers to "destiny" !!😂
Tell me about it😂
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I tell u.. IF Brooke has to hear Taylor's name out Ridge's mouth.. One. More. Time 😂😂
She's tried everything.. Constant s E x/seduction...calling professional help..dangling Forrester shares to become more "Family" oriented... And still this man of hers will not stop talking about Taylor 😂😂
Sharon, now we have to RSVP to Thorne and Macy's wedding. I've watched a couple of clips of that one and it is loaded with material 😂
0:47 That FACE! A TEN! 😍
I will give her a 12❤
How depressing. The supposed therapist telling children how dreams dont always turn out happy and walked away. What a great Christmas story to tell children.
How depressing that the Taylor haters always need to pull the "renowed, supposed theraphist"-card.....🥱🙈😂
I don't think those kid's celebrate Christmas so it's ok 😂
@@susankent6051 kind of like the ones who Every episode call Brooke a ho? Why is that? Because KKL was with B&B from the start, hasn't been vain enough to alter her face or left the show repeatedly and has proven herself to be an actress who is committed to B&B? At least Brooke went to college and invented the Belief formula For the Forresters. Yes Brooke the character has slept with different men. So has Taylor. Taylor IS portraying a Therapist is she not? The actress Hunter Tylo was beautiful back in the day but comes off as a character who needs mental help.
@@joycheek6756😂😂🙈🙈don't let me get started on how many therapy sessions Brooke needs ...and it's so easy to always need to compare Brooke to Taylor,when there are no arguments left
@@joycheek6756Many people don't understand the difference between tv and reality...they are obsessed with soap characters to a point that they would even attack you personally for supporting a character and the hate they have for the character is very real
I see the uploader stayed in the 1940 seriers. Just two days ago We were in the 1973 numbers that put us in Febuary of 1995. Thanks for the uplosd !! Taylor don't use the children as an Excuse for your "New" Love !!!
What are you talking about? Taylor doesn't need any excuse to love handsome Prince Omar! He's tall, good-looking, powerful and rich, all the qualities and attributes any woman on Earth could desire!
@@rafaelauger8865 You must have smoked the weedy wacky this morning !! ?? 🤣🤣
@@rafaelauger8865She doesn't love him. And he made her life miserable. Then it was her choice to keep her life miserable, staying at the palace with him...
@@babs4848Most women like being locked up and against their will While their husband marry some one else !! 😂😂
@@MrCraigblaze not just this morning, probably smokes everyday
So, I guess Stephanie was right. Rigde wasn't over Taylors death and wasn't really ready to move on and get married. Brooke was and is only a rebound and a consolation prize. Like also Sheila and Brooke were for eric.
A major factor is played by his daughter too. He desperately wanted to give his child a family. I don't say that he doesn't love Brooke. But he clearly was not ready.
@@babs4848I completely agree, Babs😊👍
@@babs4848clearly trying to replace one wife with another has not worked (which is exactly what he did, and which is why I cannot see him being with Brooke at this point as some great romance).
At least with Caroline he took time to grieve.. Went off on his bike, grew a beard, etc..
This marriage, even if it was to give his daughter a live in father, was just too rushed bc he didn't properly grieve.
Steph knew that more than anyone else. And Omar underestimated that completely. Which is why I wished Steph was the one to start the hunt for Taylor and go up against Omar to get Taylor back home.
@@babs4848you do realize he wont take taylor back…if anything wt is happening shows how strong Bridge bond is and how understanding brooke is in comparison to taylor not so many months ago
Nobody should be ready to move on after 3 months of a spouse dying ,
and go marry another.That much I agree with.Ridge certainly isn’t over Taylor’s death ..Does anyone really ever get over a death?? Brooke isn’t a rebound or consolation prize though .Ridge already admitted to Brook that he buried his love for her when he was with Taylor.He never said he stopped loving her .He is happy with Brooke now ,but I am glad they are showing he is human and still remembers and has love for his beloved ‘dead’ wife too.
When does Taylor come back home? I hope we get to see those episodes.
Soon...
She masquerades around L.A. as a mystery nurse before being revealed a few months
me too it is so boring these two being apart
Directed by Susan Flannery
First he keeps Taylor's pic at the office, now he's visiting her gravesite. Anything to avoid going home to the Grinch.
Lol
😂😂 The little Grinch from the valley! 🤣🤣
Brooke really _does_ look like the Grinch in the thumbnail! 😂
@@ConnorWilliams163Yes !! To say so !! 😂😂
@@ConnorWilliams163 She's here to steal another Forrester Christmas 😄
What does Ridge expect? Of course he’s still mourning Taylor’s death. He moved on way too quick with Brooke. What’s it been, maybe 6 months?
Man (14:36) takes me back to the edge if your seat writing under the Bill Bell regime. Sheila recalls the iconic dream sequence with my Lauren 🥰 ❤🔥 in it, episode 1386, an absolutely fantastic sequence. Eric didn't believe Lauren though, he wasn't even sold even when a police officer showed him a Newspaper article 📰 of Sheila being dead from a fire, with proof that the Genoa City police had a warrant for Sheila Carter, _they had 6 felony charges against Sheila_ before she "died". Even in a dream Eric was *on brand* as a *wishy-washy idiot* he was like _apparently this is a very different Sheila Carter._
Lauren was understandably neurotic, as the preeminent storyteller all Steph had to do was chip in at 10:06 and say 🗣💬 *_I think this woman is telling the truth and it's simple enough to verify the truth isn't it? You don't have any objection to that do you Sheila or do you?_* Then Sheila went with a remix of her bestseller "I've Changed" 🎶🎵 *_Can't a person just change? Don't you realize I am not the same person? I'm a very different person from the woman that Lauren is describing_*
It's just not the same anymore 🙅♂
Taylor the true princess 😍 she my baby mama😂😂😂
Thank you. ❤❤❤
Ridge is longing for his true love and his true wife Taylor he cannot shake the feeling that she is alive and she is his soul mate he dreams about her all he can think about is her Brooke is standing there and she does not mean anything to him besides Taylor thats how much he loves Taylor and we all await Taylor's return
Taylor wasn’t even home for Christmas last Year Ridge.She was with James helping him and his father. So a couple of Christmas together?? I think just one
Yes, I think you are right. They had one Christmas together. Nice that Ridge is remembering the good times…because there were some rough patches right before Taylor’s plane crash! 🤨
What happened to Ridge being convinced this is what Taylor wanted…him to be happy with Brooke? LOL😆
What a hypocrite Brooke is: " she was a wonderful woman"....And then when Taylor gets back, she will be snaky and arrogant to her as always. She's only said that because of Ridge. But then gain, no surprise there, since she's always been so easy to read. And I can't stand the way she always talks to Ridge, as if he was a child( well, he's her stepson)😂🙈
😂😂😂😂😂😂
She's been hypocritical about Taylor from the start.
But I guess now it's even worse.. I guess someone taught Brooke it's poor taste to speak ill of the dead lol
@@TriniT21 😂😂👍
She became snaky and arrogant because she knew her competition was back and it wasn't a given that Ridge would stay with her!
@@jemekiahall5848 agreed, she was always insecure about Taylor
Didn't we saw that dream of Sheila's already?😂
The fact that Ridge fantasizes about dancing with a woman dressed in white, and first the woman in his daydream has Brooke's face and then she has Taylor's face while the white dress stays the same... interpretations?
I feel the "Ridge isn't over Taylor and really wants to be married to her instead of Brooke" is too simplistic. He is daydreaming about _both_ of them, and they are _both_ wearing the same imaginary dress. Maybe this daydream is really about how these two women are slowly converging into one woman in his mind (as they are in the writing)?
And, on that note, I wonder if we'll be able to pinpoint the moment when Taylor's downward trajectory and Brooke's upward trajectory intersect. In the beginning, we could agree that he would have gone back to Taylor if she had revealed herself right away. When she _does_ reveal herself, it's too late and Ridge stays with Brooke. So where is the moment when this shift occurs? Is _this_ that moment, when both women actually intersect visually?
Annie, great insights. Good questions. Interesting that dancing with Brooke changes into Taylor…so must be Taylor hasn’t faded from his subconscious mind? This seems much like the way Ridge’s thoughts went back to Caroline as he moved on with Brooke and Taylor.😮
Interesting that you bring up when the trajectory changes…toward Brooke and not back to Taylor? I’m thinking after Taylor reveals herself…that the choice becomes more complicated due to Taylor’s time away and her explanation of her absence.
Ridge and Brooke had bonded as a family and enough time had elapsed that Ridge chose to stay with Brooke this time…out of love and commitment!😌
Also could be Brooke hugging Ridge and saying “it will take time, Ridge.” could be a foreshadowing of what is to come?
I really do enjoy your objective analyse and view to that scene. I agree thats to simple to say he loved taylor moore... or Brooke more. Both woman gave him a lot and different feelings.. but indeed with both it is love... my opinion.
By the time Taylor will be coming back Bridge would be a very solid couple at least that is what I recall. Like your analysis, balanced and interesting.
_"Maybe this daydream is really about how these two women are slowly converging into one woman in his mind (as they are in the writing)?"_
Ooh Annie I really love this analysis! In my "Jane Eyre" post (episode 1905), I wrote how the _Madwoman in the Attic_ literary critics identify a number of reflective surfaces in Victorian novels where two female archetypes are blurred and a pro-women subtext is revealed. In this case, RIDGE is the reflective surface through which both women can be seen and (as you say) are blurring and becoming each other. After all (as you and I have identified many times) Ridge is merely _an object_ while the women are subjects. So it makes sense that he would be the vessel through which they merge. Both Taylor and Brooke see themselves and each other through Ridge (as wives, as rivals) and their position in the story depends on their relation to him.
Just adding….I think Ridge seeing Brooke then Taylor in his daydream melding together could be what you are suggesting that he loves both (seeing them as one person). I wonder if that is what the writers are conveying? I think viewers could miss that…they could see that as Ridge wanting Brooke to be Taylor?
Great point and observation… 👏
Annie, you are such a deep thinker. Love that…🤗
How is it already Christmas and winter?? AnotherBig storm coming? Weren’t they just at the pool in their bikinis? 🤦🏼♀️😂
Brad...Paul...Lauren...lol
Isn't Brooke so uninspiring.
Ridge is literally being inspired by _Taylor_ 😄
Ridge is literally lonely without Taylor💕
NOT one Brooke fan on this page today !!!! 😅😅
@@MrCraigblazejust wait...😂😂
@@MrCraigblaze This place is always more fun BEFORE they show up!
And today Brooke and Ridge are about to have their 9th wedding 🤦♂️
9th?????? Really????
Brooke is a better dancer than Taylor 😹
She's had practice lap-dancing and pole-dancing
@@NewYorkNick0607You mean like TallyHo?
I didn't understand why Ridge would have a dream image of Taylor on the verge of crying. It was weird!
I like Jasmin, but that close up at 2:19 is a bit creepy. Jasmin that eager or that creeped out to hear Rapunzel.
And why does Ridge never mention his loss of his first wife?
Because after 5 years Caroline seems to be not just buried but also forgotten.
After Christmas/ at New Years Ridge in 1989 has proposed to Caroline, so Christmas could have been a time that triggers some memories too, but no, no more memories of Caroline for Ridge, no mentioning of visiting her grave.
Because it's about Taylor, not Caroline! But don't worry, Ridge has never forgotten the love of his life Caroline. He will even talk to Caroline junior about her....😊
@@susankent6051 Caroline Jr…when is that? He should still honor her as well. She’s not his only deceased wife.
@@mara4450 right! I have never heard him say he went to her gravesite. Maybe in the very beginning 🤔
@@rosamariannkeep watching and you will see! He's honoured and mourned Caroline more than enough!
Taylor always puts Brooke’s looks to shame. 😂
Who wore it better Brooke or Taylor? 😂
I'm team Bridge but this episode and the dress belongs to Taylor.
Taylor came in put that white gown on and stole the show!
Taylor always !!!
If Taylor wasn't already "dead" Brooke would prob k I L L her for interfering in her princess fairytale life 😂
Now Brooke has to figure how not to look insecure competing against a ghost😂😂
LOL, that's funny. Your comment reminded me of her line years ago when her and Taylor were catfighting up at Big Bear and Brooke told Taylor "You were more competition in the grave than you were when you popped out of it." She definitely looks threatened here.
This isn't a therapy session, James doesn't wanna help Sheila, he's after getting at her.
yep
Brooke should never have wasted her time on you!
Taylor orphan maker. I’d love a storyline where she uses them to do her evil bidding.
how the storyline changed through the years...
you mean corrapted damaged shattered today it is not the bold and the beautiful because all they do is sick relationships thank god i stopped watching years ago
You are so right, Taylor, about the fact that life rarely has happy endings : for instance, you should have stayed forever with Prince Omar and given him many children and many sons to carry on his royal legacy! Instead, you'll eventually leave that gem of a man and go back to cat alley Ridge and his super superficial life style of the fashion industry!
Totally agreed. Ridge would chose Brooke. Even Omar knew it.
@@prasad9002😂😂🙈
The question is not is Sheila safe but is James safe? Answer no
maybe if sheila had only met Decon back then huh?
Taylor: this is a story called the tramp princess called Brookepunzel.
😂😂👏
Taylor is so much more beautiful than Brooke. Her face is angelic and hypnotic
Does anyone know Yasmeen's real name?
Yasemein Baytok!
Bridge ❤❤❤
Tridge❤❤❤
Team bridge 💕💕💕
TRIDGE❤❤❤
@@ambika66681 LOL this thread is like this episode 😂
Much better than boring Tridge, that's for sure! 😉
Ridge ought to be ashamed of himself. And Brook is being dumb.
Brooke was always a substitute. Ridge confessed it to Caroline.
They really dragging this story out. Let’s get to the 2000s already cause this is a bore. I’m surprised the show didn’t get cancelled during this season.
It's the most boring episode ever!!
Not sure about the *most* boring *ever* part, but yes, the episode is pretty boring. (so just look if there is something to have fun with)
😉Even the "yay" of the kids didn't sound that excited. Maybe Dracina wasn't afraid to hear a scary story but would have enjoyed to hear one instead of that sad and depressing Rapunzel story that had the storyteller almost tearing up afterwards.
@@mara4450if we can see the ep from the script, it is sadly in line with all the junior episodes. But I loved KB
😂😂😂