3:48 Thank you so much for this commentary section. This is precisely the sort of commentary e-sports needs. Basics for the punters to get them into the game and the dynamics of it.
wtf happened to mihu for like 5 minutes starting from 22:00. Huge bank, base count and mining in great shape. Why was he unable to damage the zerg? Why was he unable to keep his supply up? I'm watching this game and I still can't tell wtf his plan was. Is it really just plague that stopped him dead?
Well Artosis said it in the video. Being hit many places at once so terran neglected keeping up production to make use of his bank while zerg might have lost a bit more, he managed to keep resources flowing to keep up aggression
That was an incredible game. I always wonder if late game valks would work. When Mihu had all that money, if he just pumped out 6 valks, the ship weapons upgrade make them pop overlords so fast that if you shift-clicked them around the map, it would force zerg to spend money and larva making scourge and overlords, and the drop in supply would reduce zerg’s ability to max.
There's something inherently sad about hearing a vessel get gunned down by a Hydra, could you imagine the poor pilot thinking he survived with 1 HP and then a spine just takes his life
I love it when someone is courageous enough to play bio, without vultures&tanks. Is it efficient to go marines+vessels or is just the player bored of slow-ass tank pressure?
Hey Artosis how come Medics don't Restore Plagued units? Is it just too hard on the micro or just not worth the investment since Defilers can just eat more 'lings?
I have a question: why don't Zerg players rush Terran CC's? It takes 2 infested terrans & 1 queen to take down a Terran mining operation. It is cheaper than a nuke. Infinitely expendable, you just drop two infested terrans on a CC and boom, queen gets the CC infested. There is no counter.
I wonder if fake muta builds are at all possible, I've never seen it, so the terran scans sees the eggs, but they're like hydras or lings or somthing. Could you get an advantage from that somehow? Probably not.
If you make spire with no mutas you can’t harass terran in their base so they are free to not make turrets and roam the map killing third bases. Marine medic is so strong early game against ling hydra.
Restoration is a lot of mana, which will makes medics basically useless for a time, and it can only be casts on 1 unit at a time. Also, its just more apm to use up. Besides whats the point? Lets say you drain like 8 medics of their energy restoring your BC’s, then they fly back in and get plagued again immediately by the same Defiler because consume exists… If restoration was an aoe spell I do think it would be used though.
I think that falls under the category of "not worth the micro". Could they do it? Probably. But generally during a fight when units get plagued you're more occupied with moving the army, continuing the rounds of macro, rallying reinforcements, and tons of other things that the terran player is doing that puts restoring a vessel or BC pretty low on the list. If the BCs/vessels are not even close to the medics to begin with then they also have to consider whether they need to move the units away from whatever they were doing to be restored and repaired then moved out again. Chances are a Terran player that actually goes around restoring plagued units are either a god (pretty much never the case) or are bad and aren't doing more important things to try and win the game (more likely). If Flash, Light and other extremely good terrans still don't bother to put in the micro to restore, they've probably got good reasons why.
@@oldscoolest they will deplete their energy trying to heal the plagued marine anyways no? Anyways, I'm only a C player and about 150 APM and I find it worth the APM in some case so I was wondering about the pros.
Thanks I miss my childhood games were LAn games make d internet cafe alive If u sont have starcraft, counter-strike, half life, worms..u have to close ur shop coz ur gonna go bankrupt soon
Mihu doesn't know how to play. At 10 minutes mark he is just on marine-medic and no third. No wonder he lost. oh wait, that's only valid for Artosis. Mihu is a pro gamer while Artosis barely knows how to hold a computer mouse - which follows from the two reasons I've just mentioned. According to gosu players in comments in some very respectable communities😂
This game made me sad. This is the perfect example of don't think, just click. Plague science vessels never bother to kill them. Plague and a couple mutas kill science vessels fast. No defensive structures. Expanding when you don't need to. Keeping a huge bank instead of ending the game earlier. Switch to BC to prove you don't know BC are terrible. underused lings, over used ultras. poor upgrading. Low IQ game.
Plague wreaks this game tbh, Yeah sure give it dark swarm but not plague.. kinda just not right to be able to bring something down to 1 hp from 500.. like makes 0 sense
Why doesn't the Terran use more fitebats? I'm only low B ranked Terran but why not utilize firebats for lings under dark swarm ??? Low B rank ZvT is way different from S rank or high A rank.. all low B rank use crazy zerg
That’s the thing, they’re good against lings and are barely passable against anything else. They can kinda fight Hydras under Dark Swarm, though the dps is pretty bad. They can theoretically fight Lurkers, but they will take a lot of casualties doing so. Against Ultras they do basically no damage, also Firebats can’t shoot up.
Firebats have 8-11 damage depending on upgrades, but their attack type is horrible.100% to small units, 50% to medium and 25% to large. And accidently Ultralisks are large units who have a lot of armor. So you need like 100 firebats to kill 1 Ultralisk. p.s. Hydralisk, defiler, lurker and egg all medium somehow, so that's 50% damage from firebat.
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Artosis casting: this is the best game in the world :)
Artosis playing: MY MEDIC IS STUCK THIS GAME IS SO STUPID
hahah literally 2 different personalities
I like it when professional artosis nearly reveals what's under the mask with Saltosis sometimes...
notice how Mihu doesn't know how to play though.
No third and marine-medic at 10 minute mark. Worse than Artosis!!
SUPPLY DEPOT DIDNT BUILD THIS IS BULLSHIT
I'll never get tired of watching a bunch of BC's or carriers doing stuff.
And stuff doing BC's or carriers
and stuff doing stuff
It's ok, I'm stuff
I’ll never get tired of doing BC’s and stuff.
I took a poop while watching the battlecrusers
3:48 Thank you so much for this commentary section. This is precisely the sort of commentary e-sports needs. Basics for the punters to get them into the game and the dynamics of it.
What an epic tug of war. Awesome match
I like how FlaSh represents the boundaries of the impossible
"If you're a better Terran player, you'll be harder to kill" - Wisdom from Artosis
Some real Sun Tzu stuff right there...
Before remastered, I remember having to revert windows updates just so my magic disk’d brood war copy wouldn’t crash off launch. This game is special.
96 yo Arthosis casting Asl 125
Those protoss kids making reaver drops on his lawn
"heyguys,"
Goals
@@urbancohort4142 our toast is here
What a great match, think both players played almost above their usual level, felt like I was watching two Korean pros.
wtf happened to mihu for like 5 minutes starting from 22:00. Huge bank, base count and mining in great shape. Why was he unable to damage the zerg? Why was he unable to keep his supply up? I'm watching this game and I still can't tell wtf his plan was. Is it really just plague that stopped him dead?
yes lol
Well Artosis said it in the video. Being hit many places at once so terran neglected keeping up production to make use of his bank while zerg might have lost a bit more, he managed to keep resources flowing to keep up aggression
That was so sell said about starcraft still being the best game ever. Good luck on your future endeavors Arty
I had no idea who was gonna win this game until the last minute. Crazy back and forth
Around min 25 the failed attack and the mismanagement of his BCs predicted the outcome.
@@Aggnog hindsight is 20/20
Truly a epic game! Thank you for casting it
Cattle bruiser 😜
25 years later and this game is still so much fun to watch.
That was an incredible game. I always wonder if late game valks would work. When Mihu had all that money, if he just pumped out 6 valks, the ship weapons upgrade make them pop overlords so fast that if you shift-clicked them around the map, it would force zerg to spend money and larva making scourge and overlords, and the drop in supply would reduce zerg’s ability to max.
Return of Big BCs
Massive BBC's.
The only non-degenerate kind of BBC
This was an awesome game thanks for the cast!
Thanks for keeping it alive man
Loved this!
What a fun match to watch. Truly skilled players.
Daddy arty please never stop casting
11:57 whys this sound like a father reassuring their kid that what they said makes sense 😭😭😭
I thought he went into Guybrush Threepwood mode there. Like in the new Monkey Island xD
best game yet i seen on this channel! :D
Truely epic!!!
Crazy zerg is my favorite TvZ games to watch.
Great game, great cast!
Games like this are why TvZ is my favorite match up
Great, tense back and forth game)
Wow, epic game.
There's something inherently sad about hearing a vessel get gunned down by a Hydra, could you imagine the poor pilot thinking he survived with 1 HP and then a spine just takes his life
I love watching and hearing you casting. i will miss your knowledge in gsl casts
That zerg color is looking so sweet 🎉
First time watching a professional SC1 game, so what are the Blue Zerg eggs sitting around the edge of some of the bases?
The neutral eggs are obstacles used to aid walling and chokepoints, but which players can remove through devoted attack.
Had strong feeling that some vultures w spider mines would help immensely against zerg composition
Someone tell me why Mihu didnt get more ship weapon and armor upgrades, please
I love it when someone is courageous enough to play bio, without vultures&tanks. Is it efficient to go marines+vessels or is just the player bored of slow-ass tank pressure?
Hey Artosis how come Medics don't Restore Plagued units? Is it just too hard on the micro or just not worth the investment since Defilers can just eat more 'lings?
We are baaak, almost 3 days with no broodwar dosis since my usuual dealers, ASL and Artossis cast were offline ... y almost didn't make it this time.
I have a question: why don't Zerg players rush Terran CC's? It takes 2 infested terrans & 1 queen to take down a Terran mining operation. It is cheaper than a nuke. Infinitely expendable, you just drop two infested terrans on a CC and boom, queen gets the CC infested. There is no counter.
31:10 what about spending your gas on tanks? ghosts aren't that gas heavy anyway.
I really like the longer videos. 5m videos were just a tease.
This game gave me anxiety, holy hell
What a game!
When lurkers stack 3x like that, why not d-matrix and irradiate a vessel and chase? There were no hydras there, no scourge, no anti-air at all.
Awesome game
What a hectic TvZ !
Amazing game.
Crazy ass game!
Super fun late game TvZ!
yes
great game. mihu should have won easily around 21:00 if he just put down more production
what a game
I wonder if fake muta builds are at all possible, I've never seen it, so the terran scans sees the eggs, but they're like hydras or lings or somthing. Could you get an advantage from that somehow? Probably not.
If you make spire with no mutas you can’t harass terran in their base so they are free to not make turrets and roam the map killing third bases. Marine medic is so strong early game against ling hydra.
thought this was a mashed up two games given the 36 min run time
Epic game
Epic game.
Great game! Thank god it ended the way it did lol
Battle-bruisers, because they cause a lot of bruises.
Anybody knows why pros never get restoration? It works so well to restore BCs and science vessels when they get plagued.
Restoration is a lot of mana, which will makes medics basically useless for a time, and it can only be casts on 1 unit at a time. Also, its just more apm to use up.
Besides whats the point? Lets say you drain like 8 medics of their energy restoring your BC’s, then they fly back in and get plagued again immediately by the same Defiler because consume exists…
If restoration was an aoe spell I do think it would be used though.
I think that falls under the category of "not worth the micro". Could they do it? Probably. But generally during a fight when units get plagued you're more occupied with moving the army, continuing the rounds of macro, rallying reinforcements, and tons of other things that the terran player is doing that puts restoring a vessel or BC pretty low on the list.
If the BCs/vessels are not even close to the medics to begin with then they also have to consider whether they need to move the units away from whatever they were doing to be restored and repaired then moved out again.
Chances are a Terran player that actually goes around restoring plagued units are either a god (pretty much never the case) or are bad and aren't doing more important things to try and win the game (more likely). If Flash, Light and other extremely good terrans still don't bother to put in the micro to restore, they've probably got good reasons why.
@@oldscoolest they will deplete their energy trying to heal the plagued marine anyways no? Anyways, I'm only a C player and about 150 APM and I find it worth the APM in some case so I was wondering about the pros.
@@oldscoolest 1 medic is cheaper than to repair BC once. They are just too lazy for that.
Vultures, vultures, vultures...
Thanks
I miss my childhood games were LAn games make d internet cafe alive
If u sont have starcraft, counter-strike, half life, worms..u have to close ur shop coz ur gonna go bankrupt soon
ggs
Irradiate should at least cost 100 energy...
bib big cattle bruizer
🎉🎉❤
gg
Artosis casting: Its the best game in the world
Artosis streaming: Its the worst game ever
Terran so fucking OP. Had no minerals and gas forever and just lived. Havnt watched it all so no spoilers 😮
Pro game?
Mech > BCs vs zerg
5k/5k and no bc upgrades...
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Mihu doesn't know how to play. At 10 minutes mark he is just on marine-medic and no third. No wonder he lost.
oh wait, that's only valid for Artosis. Mihu is a pro gamer while Artosis barely knows how to hold a computer mouse - which follows from the two reasons I've just mentioned. According to gosu players in comments in some very respectable communities😂
t not using yamato
Why don't pros micro manage their workers to mine better?
Defilers are so f***ing boring... just slows down the game to a crawl.
Science Vessels really are the worst and most annoying unit in star craft. I get why they're needed and important. They still suck.
bump
This game made me sad. This is the perfect example of don't think, just click. Plague science vessels never bother to kill them. Plague and a couple mutas kill science vessels fast. No defensive structures. Expanding when you don't need to. Keeping a huge bank instead of ending the game earlier. Switch to BC to prove you don't know BC are terrible. underused lings, over used ultras. poor upgrading. Low IQ game.
Plague wreaks this game tbh, Yeah sure give it dark swarm but not plague.. kinda just not right to be able to bring something down to 1 hp from 500.. like makes 0 sense
You can say the same about Irradiate
@@patrickjack8101 except UFO does not have swarm and unlimited mana, on top of Irradiate. And it also does not have unescapable aoe.
For the algo
Why doesn't the Terran use more fitebats? I'm only low B ranked Terran but why not utilize firebats for lings under dark swarm ??? Low B rank ZvT is way different from S rank or high A rank.. all low B rank use crazy zerg
That’s the thing, they’re good against lings and are barely passable against anything else. They can kinda fight Hydras under Dark Swarm, though the dps is pretty bad. They can theoretically fight Lurkers, but they will take a lot of casualties doing so. Against Ultras they do basically no damage, also Firebats can’t shoot up.
Firebats have 8-11 damage depending on upgrades, but their attack type is horrible.100% to small units, 50% to medium and 25% to large. And accidently Ultralisks are large units who have a lot of armor. So you need like 100 firebats to kill 1 Ultralisk.
p.s. Hydralisk, defiler, lurker and egg all medium somehow, so that's 50% damage from firebat.
Awesome game