Marvel's ECHO Is A Cringeworthy Woke DISASTER! - Marvel Nerds

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
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    Marvel's ECHO is coming out and The Salty Nerds talk about the troubled production and the rumors about how the show is so bad, Kevin Feige didn't even want to release it!
    #marvel #mcu #echo

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  • @thetimk4720
    @thetimk4720 8 місяців тому +14

    Disney released Echo as a "binge and purge" model.

    • @SaltyNerdPodcast
      @SaltyNerdPodcast  8 місяців тому +1

      Sounds about right.

    • @ianlassitter2397
      @ianlassitter2397 8 місяців тому

      For me it's just a lot of purging.... I only binge stuff I like...

  • @budgiecat9039
    @budgiecat9039 8 місяців тому +5

    2:15 in the comics, Maya Lopez, aka Echo, was half Latin American half Native American, only of the Cheyenne Nation, not the Chokatow tribe that the MCU changed it to.
    She also was deaf aa well, but not an amputee.
    Her fathers name was Crazy Horse, and he indeed worked for Kingpin and when he died in Mayas arms his bloody hand did imprint on her face like the Hawkeye episode showed who indeed was killed by the Kingpin.
    The whole ancestral mystical powers nonsense wasnt in the comics though. That was made up for the show because the writer/director 'thought Maya's comic book powers were dumb'. 😂
    Whats odd to me is how similarly the backstory of her ancestors seemed to What If season 2 original Native American character Kahhori, only sans Space Stone (since MCU Odin never hid the Space Stone in America).
    Similar underground tribe, similar glowing blue water that gave them powers, similar girl boss tribal leader that led them to fight against colonizers etc
    Lke who copied who here because its very sus lol
    So Marvel went out of fheir way to locate an amputee desf native American woman with zero acting resume and then infused all this new ancestral folklore stuff that had nothing to do with her comic book origins. Because muh cultural preachy feminist girl boss historical stuffs i guess

  • @GGlogs
    @GGlogs 8 місяців тому +4

    They took a super micro minority a little too serious💀

  • @makcity7850
    @makcity7850 8 місяців тому +4

    Echo in the comics is actually deaf too though, they didn't invent that for the show.

    • @budgiecat9039
      @budgiecat9039 8 місяців тому +1

      Right. But she wasn't an amputee and she was half Latina half Cheyenne Native American (not Choctow). And she didn't have weird ancestral girl boss astral plane glow hand powers

  • @johnortiz1964
    @johnortiz1964 8 місяців тому +5

    all the reviews of Echo are going to UA-cam Gold!!!!!!!!!!! As ususal in recent years the reviews are way more entertaining than the show itself.

  • @carbonc6065
    @carbonc6065 8 місяців тому +2

    She's an unlikable character ... Who never smiles.

  • @thattinawoman5119
    @thattinawoman5119 8 місяців тому +6

    The thumbnail for this video is comedy gold lol

    • @jariparantainen8324
      @jariparantainen8324 8 місяців тому

      What a silly bad humour!! 😤😡

    • @York_Hunt_
      @York_Hunt_ 8 місяців тому

      Enjoy Disney Plus #ECHO, it's the "Spiritual Journey" of becoming a mob boss, TOTALLY NOT A CULT 😉😉#Durangocide -- FYI #MMIW is a scam.@@jariparantainen8324

  • @ivanthemadvandal8435
    @ivanthemadvandal8435 8 місяців тому +3

    I was half expecting Vader to start singing What Makes a Red Man Red from the old animated Peter Pan

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay3358 8 місяців тому +5

    This is gonna be a No Go on Echo

  • @mrhumpty
    @mrhumpty 8 місяців тому +2

    Oh man, if you think Kingpin got cucked in Hawkeye, wait until you see what they do to him in the final moments of this piece of garbage.

    • @SaltyNerdPodcast
      @SaltyNerdPodcast  8 місяців тому

      Yes. We've heard what happens. sigh.

    • @budgiecat9039
      @budgiecat9039 8 місяців тому

      ​​@@SaltyNerdPodcasthe literally screams "WHAT DID YOU DO??" Twice after Echo took his mind back to his childhood trauma days when he was about to kill his abusive father with a hammer in the mystical Native American astral plane of psychology

  • @e.j.vkanty4482
    @e.j.vkanty4482 8 місяців тому +4

    Except for the Spider-Man movies, I haven't seen anything past Endgame. I have zero interest in the M-She-U.

    • @SaltyNerdPodcast
      @SaltyNerdPodcast  8 місяців тому +2

      You're not alone.

    • @mallen462
      @mallen462 8 місяців тому

      And there you have it. M-she-U. Salty nerds make sense.

    • @mallen462
      @mallen462 8 місяців тому

      @@SaltyNerdPodcast Yes you incils are, LMFAO

    • @budgiecat9039
      @budgiecat9039 8 місяців тому

      ​@@mallen462what's an incil? an inverted pencil?

  • @shortyshort5290
    @shortyshort5290 8 місяців тому +3

    I watched about half of the first episode. So hard to get attached to a character who doesn't speak.

    • @SaltyNerdPodcast
      @SaltyNerdPodcast  7 місяців тому +1

      Very true. You must check your hearing privilege!

    • @Tom-nv9lv
      @Tom-nv9lv 7 місяців тому

      Because you're a child.

    • @shortyshort5290
      @shortyshort5290 7 місяців тому

      @@Tom-nv9lv She has no facial expressions! How is that acting?

    • @Tom-nv9lv
      @Tom-nv9lv 7 місяців тому

      You said it was about not speaking. Don't change the subject lmao@@shortyshort5290

  • @therealhappycritic
    @therealhappycritic 8 місяців тому +2

    Do it, Vader. Let the non-PC jokes flow.

    • @SaltyNerdPodcast
      @SaltyNerdPodcast  8 місяців тому +1

      We'll get Vader to be unleashed soon. lol.

    • @therealhappycritic
      @therealhappycritic 8 місяців тому

      @@SaltyNerdPodcast Good!..Good. (Emperor Palpatine's voice)

  • @doggodproductions2259
    @doggodproductions2259 8 місяців тому

    Echo *IS* actually deaf in the comics, as well as Native American (in some runs, she's from the Blackfeet tribe, in others, i think she's Cheyenne), but definitely not an amputee.
    There was even a version of her in one run that had a sort-of cool power to "see sound" (like Synethesia), which would've been infinitely more interesting than her "ancestral gurlboss"-power in the show.
    This show is utterly baffling. Echo is a fucking villain, and there's no redemption arc for her or anything. They should've limited her appearance to JUST showing up in 1 or 2 of the 18 episodes of Daredevil, and she should have just been written like she was back when David Mack created her. Way better character than Disney's "Echo".
    Also, I hate to say it, but Alaqua Cox should not have been allowed to be in SUCH bad shape for principal photography. Like, I know she had a kid, but she looks legitimately chubbers in so much of the show, and it makes so much of it even *more* unbelievable to watch.
    The "Daredevil fight" is the perfect example. It's such a damn joke.

  • @Reclaimer_-_117
    @Reclaimer_-_117 7 місяців тому +1

    They probably saw the actress and thought they could check off a load of boxes with one project.
    I do find it fascinating though that instead of hiring an actress to make a superhero series, they used a super hero to make a series about an actor... That's how ass backwards wokeism is.

  • @anumuthusamy8065
    @anumuthusamy8065 6 місяців тому

    Just found you guys with the dune shows. You guys are so funny, I’m a 50 year old Indian lady (the dot kind not the feather kind 🤭) but I think I still can give you permission to say everything you said, this was the best review I’ve heard, bravo guys!
    😂❤️

  • @anthony0358
    @anthony0358 8 місяців тому +3

    This was a brilliant segment! I think Mr. Kadish "broke" the Panel. I will pass on Echo

    • @SaltyNerdPodcast
      @SaltyNerdPodcast  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks, Anthony! We'll be passing on it too. lol.

  • @smittyssnippets1358
    @smittyssnippets1358 8 місяців тому +3

    Yeah Marvel has become a turd

  • @fluffypanda17
    @fluffypanda17 8 місяців тому +2

    I watched it at 2x speed, and jumped ahead constantly... but it was still boring crap!

    • @SaltyNerdPodcast
      @SaltyNerdPodcast  8 місяців тому +1

      That's what we're hearing.

    • @fluffypanda17
      @fluffypanda17 8 місяців тому +1

      The only positive, was the way they shot the fight scenes. Usually it's a shit ton of jump cuts, but not here, didn't actually help the fight scenes themselves lol, but I appreciate the way it was shot

    • @budgiecat9039
      @budgiecat9039 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@fluffypanda17I thought it was bullshit how she WWE suplexed a guy twice her size onto a pinball machine but yeah

  • @yusei151
    @yusei151 7 місяців тому

    The word "Woke" and the people that use it is cringeworthy....

  • @gcwhiteside98
    @gcwhiteside98 7 місяців тому

    I watched the first episode and literally thought it was a joke... I couldn't believe it was a Marvel TV show, I was literally like, "Am I missing something? Or is this as stupid and trashy as I think it is?" Every good thing has been ruined by wokeness... Can't watch any TV show these days without the political shit being shoved your throat.

  • @doktor3196
    @doktor3196 8 місяців тому +3

    I am waiting for the review from y'all.

    • @DutchButters
      @DutchButters 8 місяців тому +2

      You will be waiting a very long time.

    • @SaltyNerdPodcast
      @SaltyNerdPodcast  8 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, we're probably not going to bother reviewing this turd.

  • @owtnerdy1331
    @owtnerdy1331 8 місяців тому

    It's just me perhaps but when she called on the ancestors and gave her power to the other two women did they steal that scene from Buffy where she transfers her powers to all girls to have the power of the slayer?

  • @speedycerviche2380
    @speedycerviche2380 8 місяців тому

    Wait till you see what they do to King Pin. Another male character ruined.
    Its barf inducing.

  • @mattsweatt85
    @mattsweatt85 7 місяців тому +1

    You guys haven't seen the show BUT your reviewing it? Ummm ok

    • @SaltyNerdPodcast
      @SaltyNerdPodcast  7 місяців тому

      We're going over the show's production history, not the actual show.

  • @thetimk4720
    @thetimk4720 8 місяців тому

    I haven't rewatched marvel movies since I cut the cable and no longer have TV on in the background. I HAVE watched along with two specific reactors through Endgame. I did watch along as 1 of them watched Wandvision. Wandvision was done as a TV series and done well... Until the last episode. Scarlet Witch was no hero at the end, she should have left as a villain.

    • @SaltyNerdPodcast
      @SaltyNerdPodcast  8 місяців тому +1

      Marvel movies aren't worth watching right now. Neither are the TV shows.

  • @crash7098
    @crash7098 8 місяців тому

    Star Wars and Marvel needs to be sold off.

    • @SaltyNerdPodcast
      @SaltyNerdPodcast  8 місяців тому +1

      Preferably to someone who gives a crap. lol.

    • @emperorsean1
      @emperorsean1 8 місяців тому

      They were to disney

    • @crash7098
      @crash7098 7 місяців тому

      @@emperorsean1 sold off to a crowd interested in making money AND good story telling…. Disney bought with the intention of only making money.

  • @zubarsky
    @zubarsky 7 місяців тому +1

    guys. you should do a little bit a research. Echo is deaf in the comic books. I agree the show was terrible, but you guys really come off as assholes. Her power is similar to Taskmaster. She can imitate any fighting move.

  • @birdsofprey3312
    @birdsofprey3312 8 місяців тому +3

    This is really stupid, when you’re review is on something you didn’t even watch. The show is actually good and goes deep into Choctaw culture blends in the show. They showed what is like to be deaf showing Maya’s POV from fighting to just everyday life.

  • @ulquihime1991
    @ulquihime1991 8 місяців тому

    You're take for watching this show in one word. Gary from neurotic said "SHIT". They shouldn't release this even without all the editing and stuff they did. He said that it's worse than the marvel movie.

  • @irishnotsane9365
    @irishnotsane9365 8 місяців тому

    I’ve been waiting for the joke and yes it’s in good taste because the native Americans wrote the jokes.

  • @MrTickleTrunk
    @MrTickleTrunk 8 місяців тому

    I get that Vader has some RESERVATIONS but I'm glad you held him back and didn't GAMBLE with your channel by making BLANKET statements.🌝

  • @emperorsean1
    @emperorsean1 8 місяців тому

    Yeah lets talk about beer

  • @cmiguel1321
    @cmiguel1321 8 місяців тому +2

    So you start your podcast saying that you dont want to talk about Marvel, but the jokes are all about a deaf First Nation character and the actress ......... a deaf First Nation amputee ...

  • @SaltyTrekker
    @SaltyTrekker 8 місяців тому +1

    I get that this is for the views and such, but sad to see people who I know are smarter than this to sit around and trash talk a show that they have not seen in classic echo chamber style. I have watched the first 2 episodes so far and find it very interesting... yes the main character is a native American deaf amputee but that does not make her 'bad' any more than it makes her good.... it is just some superficial aspects of the character. Sure Marvel's releases have been very inconstant as of late, but dang, at least watch the show before you declare it a 'cringeworthy woke disaster'

    • @SaltyNerdPodcast
      @SaltyNerdPodcast  8 місяців тому +2

      The show wasn't available to be watched when we made the video, so we were discussing all the news around it leading up to the premiere. Frankly, we have no interest in watching this show, because Marvel has a track record of putting out crappy TV shows for years, now. And frankly, judging from the reviews, we were right - it is a cringey woke disaster. (And Marvel seems to know it.)
      Glad you like the show, though! At least someone out there is enjoying it.

    • @ivanthemadvandal8435
      @ivanthemadvandal8435 8 місяців тому +1

      Damn man, I guess that some people just haven't figured out that pattern recognition is a thing, stop complaining that not everyone is a gullible as you.
      About those "minor" parts of the character, give me a break. If they're minor, then WHY WONT THE PEOPLE WHO MADE IT STFU ABOUT IT.

    • @SaltyTrekker
      @SaltyTrekker 8 місяців тому

      @@SaltyNerdPodcast so based on your answer, and from what you say in the show it is clear that your opinions are based on 3 factors: 1, whatever the rumor mill has to say about the show... 2, whatever reviewers say about the show... and 3, which studio produced the show... ok.. .good to know that your content does not bring anything new to the table. again I am not defending all of Marvel's recent works, but simply echoing whatever negative stories you can find then making wise cracks about the main characters race/disabilities/sexual orientation etc. is frankly beneath the talent pool you have at your studio. I understand that the path for success on UA-cam is clickbait and follow the hate train, but it just feels wrong.

    • @budgiecat9039
      @budgiecat9039 8 місяців тому

      It only gets worse after ep 2 😂

  • @speedycerviche2380
    @speedycerviche2380 8 місяців тому

    Watching you guys is far more entertaining than that poop show.

  • @setlik3gaming80
    @setlik3gaming80 8 місяців тому

    Is that a Bud Lite?
    Booooo

  • @DerOhlsen
    @DerOhlsen 8 місяців тому +1

    And UA-cam is recommending embarrassing negativity bullshit channels for a-holes again. What else is new?

    • @SaltyNerdPodcast
      @SaltyNerdPodcast  8 місяців тому

      Yeah! Screw UA-cam! Watch Rumble instead! 😁