You ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise? His apprentice KILLED him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, BUT NOT HIMSELF. Someone make sure Disney hears this…
@@mikesamford112you’re going to complain that he is entertaining that Plaguis can can come back when they brought back the emperor ffs 😂 theory is working with what he has. When he talks about plaguis potentially making the sequels better, he is merely saying that IF they brought him back that would have been a better time.
If this rumor is true, the fact that anyone considered bringing Plagueis back indicates that they learned nothing from J.J. Abrams' stupid idea of bringing Palpatine back in Episode IX.🙄
@@cliffordfernandez3524It’s just crazy that no matter how many times their products flop and flop and flop, they continue to make bad decisions. Mando seasons 1-2: the healing has begun, book of boba fett: nope continue to make bad decisions, Kenobi: same as boba fett, mando 3: same thing as Boba fett and Kenobi, Ahsoka: same thing. The only good stuff is Mando seasons 1-2, the animated stuff, Andor (in my opinion, was a well acted, well shot show, but majority of it didn’t feel like Star Wars), and Rogue One. How does Kathleen Kennedy still have her job and what about other companies that could be woke, they probably change direction after losing money but Disney’s woke direction and Lucasfilms woke direction is crazy. What a sad time our generation is in. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
It would have made more sense to bring plagueis back because you don’t see him killed and Palps is very full of himself plagueis could have deceived palps
The only thing stupid about was how he came back to get killed by rey but really is he even really truely dead? If he can come back once he can do it again. Just like in the original EU he came back a few times and it took someone tying their spirit to his and dying for him to finally be gone for good. It's not a bad idea it's just Disney messing with it that makes it bad lol
Let me guess, he will shoot lighting at Rey and doesn't stop, then Rey uses her incredible powers to just deflect it back and BOOM, he's gone... again.
Disney lost over 2 billion dollars last year releasing Indiana Jones, Pixar and Marvel. Plus classic reboots. I couldn’t agree with you more. I wanna see them fail. I wanna see just how hilariously bad this can actually get.
The character assassination of Luke Was the biggest heart ache I ever felt in my life... I'll never respect Disney again. Not even if they tried their bestest. To me, Disney Star Wars does not exist. I will keep my fond memories of the originals, thank you very much.
He was like 60 by the time they made the force awakens having him be a old bearded Jedi makes sense , id rather have him keep the order but he didn't and after basically saving the galaxy and then watching it fall again would send anyone into becoming a recluse Lukes fight with ren in last Jedi was badass too
@@aurianzarrineh2633 And you don't see it in a realistic way. It's psychology, luke has grown +FORTY YEARS after the events of ROTJ. A single year can change a person, let alone half of a lifetime. Had Luke been the perfect individual who chugs black holes whenever he likes it , then it would be an actual plot hole. Simply him even helping towatds the end is more than enough to show his character. Mark Hamil agrees with whatever is the more popular opinion and even if he didn't it doesn't automatically make a good character review. Had it been then we should had heard Ford about how he hates han solo and in turn hate the character.
Nice reference but I think George has moved on it's no longer his unfortunately and as much as we cry for "real" star wars to be told, unfortunately it'll never happen. The star wars before is gone, now in with the new that features crap story telling and identity politics.
It wouldn’t make sense for Poe to understand how Palpatine returned. He doesn’t know anything about the Sith, Jedi the force ect. Very few people in the OT and ST understood that world. Palpatine passed himself off as an old defenseless man to the galaxy.
Remember Darth Maul? I believe the issue does not lie on whether Plagueis definitely died or not. It's how he said, probably production and the writers wouldn't handle it very well. Remember how Maul was literally CUT IN HALF?? yet they brought him back. And why did we accept it, and actually enjoyed it? Because they did a really good job making it make sense, and made an amazing work with the character. It's all about if they can make it work.
It would be cool if in the future they made movies or a show about darth Plagueis and it could be based on the book about him and it would just follow him around as he starts the big plan. They could even show him killing his master. That’d be SO cool.
Not only Rey Skywalker is the most powerful duelist and fighter. Obviously the most powerful force user with unmatched potential too. She is also the best starship captain, no can’t compete at her level and match her natural talent and skills. Why do people underrates Rey Skywalker for no good reason, although she is the greatest character and part of the masterpiece of the sequel trilogy? Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest Skywalker and Palpatine, but also the greatest and also the most powerful Star Wars character, in general and also in terms of writing. Rey is also considered to be one of the most powerful character in fiction, some experts say she is levels above the One Above All. Her character’s writing and arc are considered to be one of the greatest outside of Star Wars, but also in cinema or all of stories. She is considered to be one of the greatest and most iconic characters in cinema, even more iconic than Darth Vader by infinite times which makes Rey Skywalker the most iconic Star Wars character and Disney princess. Although according to experts that she’s the most powerful character and not only in Star Wars, but in fiction, her insane struggles and greatest upbringing or backstory to the most tragic character that would make any famous and well-known Ancient Greek story-tellers cry and admit their greatest tragic stories, or story as a whole in general are nothing compared to the story of Rey Skywalker (more difficult than the rest of Star Wars characters and rest of characters in all of fiction) makes her the most relatable character and hardships to become a Jedi is insanely difficult and especially trying to resist the dark side. Rey Skywalker’s potential is greater than Anakin’s power and full potential. She is not only the greatest leader and candidate for woman empowerment, she is the only embodiment for it. Instead of fighting who is the best and greatest character in Star Wars. Or also the greatest trilogy in Star Wars. Let’s all admit and say the real truth and reality, Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest masterpiece of a character in Star Wars and the sequel trilogy has the greatest movies in Star Wars. Also, the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest trilogy in all of cinema, and considered to be greater than the Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy and the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Even the experts and the best or legendary directors such as George Lucas, Peter Jackson, James Cameron, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola and etc considers the all the three movies of the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest movies in history. Please no more fighting and bashing other characters, especially Rey Skywalker to say your favorite character is the best, especially Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker whom Rey Skywalker the real GOAT is infinite times better as a character in writing and relatable, and also more powerful. ❤
I'm starting to think the line, "I felt a disturbance in the force. As if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced." Was really some meta commentary on the future of Star Wars.
Not only Rey Skywalker is the most powerful duelist and fighter. Obviously the most powerful force user with unmatched potential too. She is also the best starship captain, no can’t compete at her level and match her natural talent and skills. Why do people underrates Rey Skywalker for no good reason, although she is the greatest character and part of the masterpiece of the sequel trilogy? Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest Skywalker and Palpatine, but also the greatest and also the most powerful Star Wars character, in general and also in terms of writing. Rey is also considered to be one of the most powerful character in fiction, some experts say she is levels above the One Above All. Her character’s writing and arc are considered to be one of the greatest outside of Star Wars, but also in cinema or all of stories. She is considered to be one of the greatest and most iconic characters in cinema, even more iconic than Darth Vader by infinite times which makes Rey Skywalker the most iconic Star Wars character and Disney princess. Although according to experts that she’s the most powerful character and not only in Star Wars, but in fiction, her insane struggles and greatest upbringing or backstory to the most tragic character that would make any famous and well-known Ancient Greek story-tellers cry and admit their greatest tragic stories, or story as a whole in general are nothing compared to the story of Rey Skywalker (more difficult than the rest of Star Wars characters and rest of characters in all of fiction) makes her the most relatable character and hardships to become a Jedi is insanely difficult and especially trying to resist the dark side. Rey Skywalker’s potential is greater than Anakin’s power and full potential. She is not only the greatest leader and candidate for woman empowerment, she is the only embodiment for it. Instead of fighting who is the best and greatest character in Star Wars. Or also the greatest trilogy in Star Wars. Let’s all admit and say the real truth and reality, Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest masterpiece of a character in Star Wars and the sequel trilogy has the greatest movies in Star Wars. Also, the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest trilogy in all of cinema, and considered to be greater than the Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy and the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Even the experts and the best or legendary directors such as George Lucas, Peter Jackson, James Cameron, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola and etc considers the all the three movies of the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest movies in history. Please no more fighting and bashing other characters, especially Rey Skywalker to say your favorite character is the best, especially Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker whom Rey Skywalker the real GOAT is infinite times better as a character in writing and relatable, and also more powerful. ✅
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. With each year I understand this quote more an more.
You really have to applaud Disney, at this point. Every time you think that they can’t ruin any more characters, they somehow find a way to do it again.
If Plagueis was to return, they should’ve made him Snoke in the first place and run with that. Then have Palpatine revive himself for them to have an epic Sith showdown by the end of Episode IX. Or he would’ve been after Rey as an apprentice because he could sense her Palpatine lineage.
Im right there with you man... I'd want nothing more than for Anakin to return for these movies but there will always be that fear deep down of how bad they could mess up his character. Lookno further than Luke, Han, Leia, Rey, Finn.
Not only Rey Skywalker is the most powerful duelist and fighter. Obviously the most powerful force user with unmatched potential too. She is also the best starship captain, no can’t compete at her level and match her natural talent and skills. Why do people underrates Rey Skywalker for no good reason, although she is the greatest character and part of the masterpiece of the sequel trilogy? Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest Skywalker and Palpatine, but also the greatest and also the most powerful Star Wars character, in general and also in terms of writing. Rey is also considered to be one of the most powerful character in fiction, some experts say she is levels above the One Above All. Her character’s writing and arc are considered to be one of the greatest outside of Star Wars, but also in cinema or all of stories. She is considered to be one of the greatest and most iconic characters in cinema, even more iconic than Darth Vader by infinite times which makes Rey Skywalker the most iconic Star Wars character and Disney princess. Although according to experts that she’s the most powerful character and not only in Star Wars, but in fiction, her insane struggles and greatest upbringing or backstory to the most tragic character that would make any famous and well-known Ancient Greek story-tellers cry and admit their greatest tragic stories, or story as a whole in general are nothing compared to the story of Rey Skywalker (more difficult than the rest of Star Wars characters and rest of characters in all of fiction) makes her the most relatable character and hardships to become a Jedi is insanely difficult and especially trying to resist the dark side. Rey Skywalker’s potential is greater than Anakin’s power and full potential. She is not only the greatest leader and candidate for woman empowerment, she is the only embodiment for it. Instead of fighting who is the best and greatest character in Star Wars. Or also the greatest trilogy in Star Wars. Let’s all admit and say the real truth and reality, Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest masterpiece of a character in Star Wars and the sequel trilogy has the greatest movies in Star Wars. Also, the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest trilogy in all of cinema, and considered to be greater than the Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy and the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Even the experts and the best or legendary directors such as George Lucas, Peter Jackson, James Cameron, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola and etc considers the all the three movies of the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest movies in history. Please no more fighting and bashing other characters, especially Rey Skywalker to say your favorite character is the best, especially Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker whom Rey Skywalker the real GOAT is infinite times better as a character in writing and relatable, and also more powerful. ✅
Not only Rey Skywalker is the most powerful duelist and fighter. Obviously the most powerful force user with unmatched potential too. She is also the best starship captain, no can’t compete at her level and match her natural talent and skills. Why do people underrates Rey Skywalker for no good reason, although she is the greatest character and part of the masterpiece of the sequel trilogy? Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest Skywalker and Palpatine, but also the greatest and also the most powerful Star Wars character, in general and also in terms of writing. Rey is also considered to be one of the most powerful character in fiction, some experts say she is levels above the One Above All. Her character’s writing and arc are considered to be one of the greatest outside of Star Wars, but also in cinema or all of stories. She is considered to be one of the greatest and most iconic characters in cinema, even more iconic than Darth Vader by infinite times which makes Rey Skywalker the most iconic Star Wars character and Disney princess. Although according to experts that she’s the most powerful character and not only in Star Wars, but in fiction, her insane struggles and greatest upbringing or backstory to the most tragic character that would make any famous and well-known Ancient Greek story-tellers cry and admit their greatest tragic stories, or story as a whole in general are nothing compared to the story of Rey Skywalker (more difficult than the rest of Star Wars characters and rest of characters in all of fiction) makes her the most relatable character and hardships to become a Jedi is insanely difficult and especially trying to resist the dark side. Rey Skywalker’s potential is greater than Anakin’s power and full potential. She is not only the greatest leader and candidate for woman empowerment, she is the only embodiment for it. Instead of fighting who is the best and greatest character in Star Wars. Or also the greatest trilogy in Star Wars. Let’s all admit and say the real truth and reality, Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest masterpiece of a character in Star Wars and the sequel trilogy has the greatest movies in Star Wars. Also, the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest trilogy in all of cinema, and considered to be greater than the Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy and the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Even the experts and the best or legendary directors such as George Lucas, Peter Jackson, James Cameron, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola and etc considers the all the three movies of the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest movies in history. Please no more fighting and bashing other characters, especially Rey Skywalker to say your favorite character is the best, especially Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker whom Rey Skywalker the real GOAT is infinite times better as a character in writing and relatable, and also more powerful. ✅
Not only Rey Skywalker is the most powerful duelist and fighter. Obviously the most powerful force user with unmatched potential too. She is also the best starship captain, no can’t compete at her level and match her natural talent and skills. Why do people underrates Rey Skywalker for no good reason, although she is the greatest character and part of the masterpiece of the sequel trilogy? Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest Skywalker and Palpatine, but also the greatest and also the most powerful Star Wars character, in general and also in terms of writing. Rey is also considered to be one of the most powerful character in fiction, some experts say she is levels above the One Above All. Her character’s writing and arc are considered to be one of the greatest outside of Star Wars, but also in cinema or all of stories. She is considered to be one of the greatest and most iconic characters in cinema, even more iconic than Darth Vader by infinite times which makes Rey Skywalker the most iconic Star Wars character and Disney princess. Although according to experts that she’s the most powerful character and not only in Star Wars, but in fiction, her insane struggles and greatest upbringing or backstory to the most tragic character that would make any famous and well-known Ancient Greek story-tellers cry and admit their greatest tragic stories, or story as a whole in general are nothing compared to the story of Rey Skywalker (more difficult than the rest of Star Wars characters and rest of characters in all of fiction) makes her the most relatable character and hardships to become a Jedi is insanely difficult and especially trying to resist the dark side. Rey Skywalker’s potential is greater than Anakin’s power and full potential. She is not only the greatest leader and candidate for woman empowerment, she is the only embodiment for it. Instead of fighting who is the best and greatest character in Star Wars. Or also the greatest trilogy in Star Wars. Let’s all admit and say the real truth and reality, Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest masterpiece of a character in Star Wars and the sequel trilogy has the greatest movies in Star Wars. Also, the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest trilogy in all of cinema, and considered to be greater than the Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy and the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Even the experts and the best or legendary directors such as George Lucas, Peter Jackson, James Cameron, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola and etc considers the all the three movies of the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest movies in history. Please no more fighting and bashing other characters, especially Rey Skywalker to say your favorite character is the best, especially Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker whom Rey Skywalker the real GOAT is infinite times better as a character in writing and relatable, and also more powerful. ❤
Because the Sith Lord who learned how to cheat death couldn't possibly fake his own death so he could continue his studies into the dark side while letting his apprentice continue on with the sith mission.
You ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wide? He went to the Qui gon gym 3 times a day. The Qui gon gym was next to the mall. the Darth mall. He became so wide to the point that he wouldn’t fit in his house.
I can actually believe the Plagueis thing being seriously considered. The hacks at Lucasfilm only know how to reference other Star Wars stuff and have no idea how to actually create anything meaningful.
Jesus Christ man they’re gonna butcher what’s left of the franchise. They should NOT touch Plagueis. I thought they were gonna ruin him in that new “acolyte” show, but apparently they’re gonna do it in the new Rey movie instead smh
They aren't butchering the show..they already butchered it AND now using nercomancy to drag it back from its grave and beaten it with a baseball bat, the series died in rise of skywalker, and it's a withered corpse on life support and they are beaten it with serrated baseball bags.
Star Wars Theory you ever consider writing your own screenplays? Your knowledge and passion would be a great asset in Hollywood, if not for Star Wars itself at least the Sci-Fi genre. New ideas are needed in these dark times.
Tbh it seems really simple to get back on track. Idk why they don’t just 1. Have Dave & George work on a story 2. Hire someone who can make quality screenplay & a director without a left or right agenda. 3. Have bad ass some action scenes & romance that comes very naturally.
Dave is average or bad director so is Lucas. But Both of them should be hired for making story, and they should hire director of Andor to make it work on The screen
@@ragnarravnulv8870it obviously isn't. I always ask myself how deluded, emotional and dramatic the average guy like you is. It's also with other franchises, one of the biggest franchises makes bangers for decades and is talked and liked by millions being even an important part of life and like real history. Then, after so much good, new single humans, which are flawed make a few mistakes, even if it are multiple ones over years, don't change ANYTHING. The lore, story and more will never change. One change of a director and writer can and will change everything and can get great in a second, that's how life is. Being lower now doesn't somehow make it worse forever, stop being so dramatic. You WILL in not even long see good star wars again and forget everything you thought and said and hype it up again. That's how moving on and humans are. Grow up.
its not disney its lucasfilm. nobody says disney makes the mcu, they say marvel makes it. Bob Iger isnt doing the screenplays last time i checked @@ippoverse
Considering the novel is in three parts, it could make for a decent movie trilogy if done right. With the third act of the third movie taking place the same time as TPM. It’s definitely too good to cram into one movie
I reached a point where I only want them to forget this franchise and sell it to another studio with more common sense. I grew up watching Star Wars but this new movies and shows are painful to watch
I really like Theory's asserting that things need to be moved outward, forward, and organically in the progression of the canon. It doesn't help favor genuine creativity to shoehorn disparate characters and storylines into a hermetic box.
When you said “ one of my main concerns is I think they’re going to bring Anakin in here “ I died laughing lmfao . We all hope the same thing, DONT RUIN ANYMORE LEGACY CHARACTERS DISNEY.
I'm extremely skeptical of leaks this early. Given the last few movies and shows, Disney doesn't exactly strike me as a company that plans their projects aheads of time anymore.
The only thing I could think of for a Star Wars movie is a retcon that has Rey go through the world between worlds and prevent the downfall of Anakin Skywalker. And from there, with Palpatine defeated and the end of the Clone Wars, it could shift towards a new era with perhaps the Yuuzhan Vong as the villains and perhaps the Republic and Chiss Ascendancy are working together.
"Somehow Darth Plagues is back"...."they burrow now ?" "hyperspace mega-jumping" (or perhaps transporters "beam me up Finn" ?) etc. etc. etc. I wonder if they'll show Rey making pottery and Kylo sitting behind her gently guiding her hands while Unchained Melody is playing in the background. "I want to make women uncomfortable. I love making women uncomfortable" - Sharmeen Obain-Chinoy (see what that sounds like when you change ONE word 😉)
Your right Anakin did bring balance to the force by wiping out the major in-balanced that was the Jedi. Like Yoda said prophecy miss read may have been
Not really. Star Wars is based on classic European and Japanese stories, where after all the hardships, good eventually wins (the light side). Balance in the Star Wars universe was brought when Anakin emerged from Vader and defeated Palpatine, destroying the Dark Side, with the light side triumphing. Not by bringing the jedi and the sith to some arbitrary equality of numbers xD
Holy shit, I just realized something quite awful if they decide to go the whole force-pregnancy route. Since Ben Solo is the grandson of Anakin Skywalker, and Rey is the granddaughter of Palpatine; if Palpatine is responsible for the manipulation of the midichlorians that created Anakin, wouldn't that be force incest?
@@SeanDragonhammerthe only reason it's a legend is because Palpatine was trying to play Anakin and make him fall to the darkside. I mean for goodness sakes Palpatine was the one who killed Plagueis, hardley makes it a sith legend if there's only one sith alive and that sith was the one who did the deed 😂
@@mcdoublenfries7412 I know im a huge fan I’m aware of the ways of the sith. I’m just saying to make it justifiable for Disney to bring back a character like that would be the only way is for the story itself to be a lie to Anakin
Love your content my friend! Soon as i heard this possible leak i though "no...thats impossible" but i look at disneys track record aaaand...yeah i can see it happening. "Somehow Plagueis returned" Anyway, best of luck with the channel and merch! May the Force be with you!
I remember way back when TFA was released I was so hyped after watching it that I couldn't wait for the sequel. I had issues with TFA but all and all I felt it had a lot going for it and did a decent job at setting up the sequel trilogy version of ESB. I remember that there was a plot leak right around Carrie Fisher's passing and the drop of the first trailer for TLJ. The plot leaked that Snoke was Palpatine, and that Palpatine was Plagueis, as well as all Sith from Plagueis' time forward. Jumping from body to body whenever the apprentice was strong enough in the dark side to defeat the master, and also contain the spirit of Snoke/Palpatine/Plagueis. This was the plan for Darth Maul before his untimely death/defeat at the hands of Obi-Wan, Then Darth Vader, until his crippling injuries, (Also) sustained by Obi-Wan, then Luke until he chose not to destroy Vader and Vader then turning on Palpatine, and now Ben Solo was just the next link in the chain with Palpatine trapped in the body of some poor imperial fool whos body can not handle the corrupting influence of the dark side and is actively decaying and could really drop at any moment and we could see the process of the Essence Transfer Technique used on another poor Imperial/First Order SOB as Ben Solo wouldn't be strong enough yet with the dark side to accept the Sith spirit. This would lead into why Luke went searching for the first Jedi Temple. Luke was searching for any information as to the origins of the Sith, a way to defeat the Sith once and for all, and to save Ben Solo In this "Leak" Ben Solo naturally struggled with the dark side from an early age due to subtle manipulations of the Sith from afar, unknown to Luke, Han, or Leia. The Solo's sent Ben to Luke, who believing the Sith were gone guided Ben down the path of the new Jedi Order. But Luke's new Jedi Order was different than the old Order from the Clone Wars. perhaps too different as it made Ben's far to the dark side that much easier. Now Luke is stuck in a hard place with no real way to save Ben Solo from the Sith. If Luke confronts and defeats the Sith nothing will be gained, costing Luke his only advantage, (The Sith being unaware the Luke knows the Sith secret to immortality.) or worse, the Sith takes Ben right then and there Forcing Luke to destroy Ben while also not being able to destroy the Sith since it would always be possible for another Essence Transfer to another host. Rey was going to be Han and Leia's daughter who was kidnapped at the same time the Falcon was stolen. Ben would have blamed himself for this ordeal having used the force on her for some petty reason to fog her memories leading to his destructive pull towards the dark side. Luke after meeting Rey would find a small hope that there was a chance for Ben Solo still, that if anyone in the Galaxy who might bring him back into the light, it would be his long lost baby sister, now Luke would begin to train Rey closer to how the Jedi of old were trained. Not as close to the strict guidelines of the old Jedi Order, but not as loose as he was with Ben. Now Luke could really work at finding a way to destroy the Sith once and for all. Meanwhile Finn and Poe would be traveling to Coruscant to gather the remains of the New Republic to form a coordinate with the Resistance to fight the First Order only to be blocked politicly be Benicio Del Toro's character who would be a very influential senator also in the pocket of the Sith as half the galaxy is pro First Order, the other half longs to join the Resistance lead by former Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo former hero of the Rebel Alliance and now a well respected member of the Republic Senate. Leia would be the armchair General commanding troops alongside her old friends Admiral Ackbar, Wedge Antilles, Nien Nunb, as well as a number of new faces, taking the fight to the First Order. Buying as much time as they can for the galaxy to organize. Not a perfect script but sure would have made for a damn better plot than the one we got in TLJ. I remember when J.J Abrams said that he wished he'd been the one to wright and direct Episode VIII because this was going to, "Blow people's minds." well it certainly did that and in perhaps the worst way.
9 years ago: "Oh Snoke must be Plaguis it would amazing to have him return!" Disney: "No" Present time: Disney "Hey guys you remember Plaguis rig-" "No"
@@jedicouncil66 There's no pleasing fans, but regardless Disney is continuing to make bad calls and they show no sign that they have learned anything from their mistakes.
Lol it’s clear at this point they’re just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. Anyone still defending KK’s Lucasfilm is doing so purely for ideological reasons.
I feel like if Snoke was Plagueis instead, that would give some reasoning as to how Palpatine came back, as he says in ROTS, “He taught his apprentice everything he knew”, also possibly including the ability to revive yourself.
I also hate how they belittled Finn as well as Grand Master Jedi Luke Skywalker and “the whole Hee-Haw gang‼️”. As for Leia the Schnoz 👃was definitely with her. “Good night Mrs Calabash wherever you are.” - Jimmy Durante.
I had an idea how they could potentially do all this and retcon the sequel trilogy. We know Asohka is trapped on the planet from the series. I would like to see Asohka learn of the Demise of Luke and the Jedi , whether vision, Bendu, we can figure that out. She decides to she cannot lose another Skywalker, decides to use the place Beyond to change history. She is able to go back, prior to Luke attempts to strike Kylo which kicks off the sequel trilogy. Have her stop that event to change the future but..... In doing this, all events change such as Rey and her path, get John Boyega to come back and Actually train Jedi, Luke Grogu, the temple is all intact but it could send Rey down a dark path learning her roots. It can get rid of Palp Clone or you could use a Palp clone like Heir to the Empire did. You could change the whole land scape moving forward but I think it is too much of a risk for Disney to try this. Maybe I am hopelessly optimistic about changing what has been done. Technically this is all set up to be a possibility
I think what has happened with Disney Star Wars, they are trying to introduce and bring in a whole new generation of fans and create a new legacy like the one that started with George Lucas's since the 80s. They don't seem to mind that the "old" star wars fans don't want all these new changes and different directions they are taking, problem is all they had to do was stick to the Star Wars formula, why fix something that isn't broken and it too would have gotten a whole generation into it, something parents can also share and enjoy with their kids and families as there is common generational ground
Tenebrous would make sense to be Plagueis. In the end his spirit went into Plagueises body but he was never able to take control, like using the body of his dead a pprentice as a mech for his spirit. Terrifying but also interesting.
I watched a video years ago that mentioned that Reylo fans were theorizing that Rey could be pregnant with Kylo's force child. The fact that the same thing is showing up in an article years later is so damn surreal.
It’s because they’re pandering. If no one had said that they wouldn’t have known it was wanted by anyone and wouldn’t have thought of it, because they have no original ideas
You know, if they had done this when Snoke was still around MAYBE this could've worked but at this late date? It feels like too little, too late. You had your chance and you blew it. Doing it now just makes the problem worse.
3:00 the sad part is. The impregnation WAS shown on camera. I told my Mrs straight away when I saw it happen. When Rey is "dead" kylo put life into her through her belly it... Okay he said it at like 5:00
@@hsuehhs1Facts. Rey has potential as a character. She just needs better writing. Like Anakin Skywalker. Everyone called him a whiney teenager, now they love him
@@user-bb1ti6ct7s trolling? Her character isn't the issue, it's the writing. She's not a real person. She's whatever the writer and director want her to be. And yeah, she calls herself a Skywalker because Luke and Leia were right there. She's not a Palpatine, she denounces that name. You're just trolling right? GOD BLESS YOU AMEN!!!🙏🏼❤️👑
The second story is vague enough that you could make something out of it, but I don't trust them to. I'd also change the villain to something new (or poached from Legends if they can't think of original things).
It makes me think Plagueis was the original plan from 7.. Or they heard how much the fans talked about it and are now trying to use him because they think it's not too late.
my impression was always that at the end Kylo actually not just healed but knocked up Rey, creating life via the Force, something the last Skywalkers were never able to do, hence the "rise" (as the last Skywalker turning jedi and embracing an otherwise dark side considered power). not that I would think for a moment that disney would think this far ahead...
No way you thought at the end of episode 9 when he was healing Rey that he was pumping her with a baby lol and if you were you got a really wild imagination (not a bad thing). Even then the plot says 15 years later and the kid was 9 so unless having babies are different in star wars lore where they cook in there for years still dont make sense lol
@@brendonmcmillan5589 no I don't believe that I don't want to believe it I'm just saying given that this is Disney I wouldn't be surprised if that is the plot of the movie I hope to god this movie doesn't get made but if it does I'm telling you I'm not going to see it or giving Disney any of my money
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@@brendonmcmillan5589 yeah, it doesnt make sense with this timeframe now, but back then it seemed plausible to me. But bringing Plagueis back to butcher him as well...
You would not believe this, when I was younger me and my friend used to play Star Wars post sequels, and our “plot” so to speak, was a combination of those two scripts! When I watched this video I thought Disney had read my mind and put that in their scripts!
I've been thinking this in the back of my mind ever since the whole rumor that Plagueis would appear right at the tail end of *the Acolyte* series. I can really see Kathy Kennedy, Leslie Headland and Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy ultimately teaming up and poaching "Darth Plagueis" and using him as the "BIG BAD" that resurfaces and Rey's absolutely perfect Jedi Master and her new Jedi Order have to face off against in her movie. I think Rey will learn the ways of the ancient primitive Je'Dai that existed on Ach-to, and were a mix-match of darkside and lightside force sensitives, and she follows there ideals where the whole thing becomes this idea of "there is no Good or Bad"; remember what that guy was sayin on the Acolyte panel at the 2023 Celebration? this is Not what i want, but i think they might end up doing and just in pure Kathy Kennedy/Disney fashion, they ALWAYS have to recontextualize Everything regards George Lucas Starwars lore; and i can see them doing that. I completely agree with what you say theory about just being ONE AND DONE with the Sequels it's characters and it's whole stupid canon. But where i'm indifferent to you theory is i simply can't be "optimistic" about anything they do or what gets announced WHILE Kathy Kennedy is still around running Lucasfilm. the way things are going i can honestly see this turning into two sides. You'll have Bob Iger siding with Jon Favreau, because he trusts Favreau since he was the one who originally helped Kevin Feige over at Marvel, set up the whole MCU and Favreau's movies have made bank for Disney in the past. Iger is probably even sorry how he left Jon Favreau at the mercy of Kathy Kennedy and those who basically screwed around with everything he was trying to do in his *Mandoverse*; and by bringing Favreau back now, even pushing Favreau's MANDO & GROGU MOVIE up, infront of Kathy & Sharmeen's REY MOVIE, that's got to have rubbed Kathy the wrong way lol. It also shows Iger has the power to veto things. And i can see Kennedy, Headland and Chinoy ALL teaming up and connecting their projects, Leslie's "Acolyte" show will connect to Obaid'Chinoy's Rey Movie through Plageuis or maybe even the "Prime Jedi", remember that mural of the Prime Jedi on Ach-to? A Individual perfectly balanced between the light and darksides of the force. I can see them making Rey achieve this, she's already can do everything now she is a Dyad and has those ancient texts to teach herself anything from. And they know they're gonna need some big, notable Villain for the Rey movie, so i can absolutely see Leslie Headland using Plageuis, and setting him up for hundreds of years further down the line, so that he will eventually return in Rey's movie. they know right now they will need something BIG to cause excitement in some Fans (mainly sequels fans) to draw attention to their movie. I wouldn't even be surprised if this is why Leslie Headland's Acolyte has been put back a fair bit.
Even though that would again go against Canon. As Sideous was the strongest sith ever. Rey beat Sideous so her struggling against P lageius wouldn't even make sense.
@yagamifire7861 The writers all run in the same circles, parrot the same garbage and had the same sheltered, spoiled upbringing. You need look no further than Marvel's latest attempts at "heroic" characters to understand that these people have no grounded concept of good or bad. "There are no bad tactics, only bad targets."
@@gabrielcarrasco9078Yeah, Rey (+all the Jedi) beat Palpatine (+all the Sith), so how could Plageius, having already been part of that fight, stand any chance on his own, since the assumption would be that Rey is still all the Jedi. Fanfic power fantasy trash.
I wouldn't mind Plageuis in an Episode 10-12 directed by Dave Filoni where they introduce new better characters like a grown up Baby Yoda and kill off the crappy ones from the ST but if it's just a Rey solo movie than hell no. Finn and Poe are the only characters from the Sequel Trilogy I wanna see come back while the other characters don't stand a chance against Plageuis or make it to end of Episode 10 being replaced by new Jedi more similar to the ones from Legends. It would also be cool to see the new Jedi inherit Lightsabers that once belonged to Jedi from the Old Republic like Qui Gon and Windu's Sabers if they weren't destroyed after Order 66. It would be crazy finding what we thought was Palpatines resurrection was all a force illusion from Plageuis the whole time and Palpatine wasn't even actually there.
@Wertzuio she still redirected his lightning back at him. Palpatine never said how she had to do it. He just said he had to be killed by her. Indirectly? Directly? Implement, choking, force pushed off a cliff, crushed, lightning redirected back at him? It was never established how she had to kill him.
What's sad is that Disney KNOWS that the movie will do terribly and they need another movie to lean, which is why they announced the "Mandalorian and Grogu" movie 😠
What If episodes VII - IX were a SW version of the first R.E.D. Movie? “Your powers are weak old man” - Some Villain with dark side powers *“Old man my ass.” - Grand Master Jedi Luke Skywalker retired General of the New Republic.*
You ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise? His apprentice KILLED him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, BUT NOT HIMSELF.
Someone make sure Disney hears this…
Apparently Theory needs to hear this as well. Why do I keep listening to these videos?
It's possible someone else saved him... idk how they write that in now with put going full McGuffin but 🤷
I feel bringing him back would kill of the meaning behind his death.
@@mikesamford112you’re going to complain that he is entertaining that Plaguis can can come back when they brought back the emperor ffs 😂 theory is working with what he has.
When he talks about plaguis potentially making the sequels better, he is merely saying that IF they brought him back that would have been a better time.
Disney really just doesn't care
If this rumor is true, the fact that anyone considered bringing Plagueis back indicates that they learned nothing from J.J. Abrams' stupid idea of bringing Palpatine back in Episode IX.🙄
For real
Why bring him back to have someone so insignificant like Rey kill him?
@@cliffordfernandez3524It’s just crazy that no matter how many times their products flop and flop and flop, they continue to make bad decisions. Mando seasons 1-2: the healing has begun, book of boba fett: nope continue to make bad decisions, Kenobi: same as boba fett, mando 3: same thing as Boba fett and Kenobi, Ahsoka: same thing. The only good stuff is Mando seasons 1-2, the animated stuff, Andor (in my opinion, was a well acted, well shot show, but majority of it didn’t feel like Star Wars), and Rogue One. How does Kathleen Kennedy still have her job and what about other companies that could be woke, they probably change direction after losing money but Disney’s woke direction and Lucasfilms woke direction is crazy. What a sad time our generation is in. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
It would have made more sense to bring plagueis back because you don’t see him killed and Palps is very full of himself plagueis could have deceived palps
I honestly shut that piece of trash off and never finished watching it when I saw what Abrams did. What a hack.
The only thing stupid about was how he came back to get killed by rey but really is he even really truely dead? If he can come back once he can do it again. Just like in the original EU he came back a few times and it took someone tying their spirit to his and dying for him to finally be gone for good. It's not a bad idea it's just Disney messing with it that makes it bad lol
The number of incredible characters they have managed to ruin over the course of these movies and shows is impressive at this point.
Let me guess, he will shoot lighting at Rey and doesn't stop, then Rey uses her incredible powers to just deflect it back and BOOM, he's gone... again.
Disney lost over 2 billion dollars last year releasing Indiana Jones, Pixar and Marvel. Plus classic reboots.
I couldn’t agree with you more. I wanna see them fail. I wanna see just how hilariously bad this can actually get.
When you somehow manage to ruin uncle owen and aunt beru, do you not reach a point of self doubt in your career path in life? I feel I would >.
The people at Disney/Lucasfilm are not here to create, they only *destroy.*
You gotta wonder if ruining characters actually have some sort of skilled involved
The character assassination of Luke Was the biggest heart ache I ever felt in my life... I'll never respect Disney again. Not even if they tried their bestest. To me, Disney Star Wars does not exist. I will keep my fond memories of the originals, thank you very much.
He was like 60 by the time they made the force awakens having him be a old bearded Jedi makes sense , id rather have him keep the order but he didn't and after basically saving the galaxy and then watching it fall again would send anyone into becoming a recluse Lukes fight with ren in last Jedi was badass too
@@GoofballentMark Hamill disagrees with you, as does most everyobe else.
@@Goofballentyou do not know anything about star wars or luke skywalkers character, please do not talk about things you do not understand
@@aurianzarrineh2633relax a bit yall
@@aurianzarrineh2633 And you don't see it in a realistic way. It's psychology, luke has grown +FORTY YEARS after the events of ROTJ. A single year can change a person, let alone half of a lifetime. Had Luke been the perfect individual who chugs black holes whenever he likes it , then it would be an actual plot hole. Simply him even helping towatds the end is more than enough to show his character. Mark Hamil agrees with whatever is the more popular opinion and even if he didn't it doesn't automatically make a good character review. Had it been then we should had heard Ford about how he hates han solo and in turn hate the character.
I would imagine George is thinking, " THIS DEAL IS GETTING WORSE ALL THE TIME".
Under-rated reference, you scroundrel🔫
Nice reference but I think George has moved on it's no longer his unfortunately and as much as we cry for "real" star wars to be told, unfortunately it'll never happen. The star wars before is gone, now in with the new that features crap story telling and identity politics.
i'd rather have a Darth Jar Jar movie instead of another one about Rey
Hahaha me to
in a winnie the pooh horror style
Unironically, I think most fans would prefer "Jar Jar - A Star Wars Story."
We already had a “Somehow, Palpatine returned”, WE DO NOT NEED A “SOMEHOW DARTH PLAGUEIS RETURNED”, DAMMIT DISNEY
I want Darth Jar Jar to be a real thing.
It wouldn’t make sense for Poe to understand how Palpatine returned. He doesn’t know anything about the Sith, Jedi the force ect.
Very few people in the OT and ST understood that world. Palpatine passed himself off as an old defenseless man to the galaxy.
Let them do it! If the Rey movie isn't cancelled, the dumber it gets, the better it flops.
Considering no one knew who he was as a sith other than palp it’d make it very anti climactic maybe just bring maul and talon like George intended
if plagueis is coming back then we can infer that the next one is: "somehow tenebrous returned"
The real tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise is him being put in a rey movie
😂
that's tragedy for all of us, not only him :/
Remember Darth Maul? I believe the issue does not lie on whether Plagueis definitely died or not. It's how he said, probably production and the writers wouldn't handle it very well. Remember how Maul was literally CUT IN HALF?? yet they brought him back. And why did we accept it, and actually enjoyed it? Because they did a really good job making it make sense, and made an amazing work with the character. It's all about if they can make it work.
Which they can't😂
It would be cool if in the future they made movies or a show about darth Plagueis and it could be based on the book about him and it would just follow him around as he starts the big plan. They could even show him killing his master. That’d be SO cool.
Not only Rey Skywalker is the most powerful duelist and fighter. Obviously the most powerful force user with unmatched potential too. She is also the best starship captain, no can’t compete at her level and match her natural talent and skills.
Why do people underrates Rey Skywalker for no good reason, although she is the greatest character and part of the masterpiece of the sequel trilogy?
Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest Skywalker and Palpatine, but also the greatest and also the most powerful Star Wars character, in general and also in terms of writing. Rey is also considered to be one of the most powerful character in fiction, some experts say she is levels above the One Above All. Her character’s writing and arc are considered to be one of the greatest outside of Star Wars, but also in cinema or all of stories.
She is considered to be one of the greatest and most iconic characters in cinema, even more iconic than Darth Vader by infinite times which makes Rey Skywalker the most iconic Star Wars character and Disney princess.
Although according to experts that she’s the most powerful character and not only in Star Wars, but in fiction, her insane struggles and greatest upbringing or backstory to the most tragic character that would make any famous and well-known Ancient Greek story-tellers cry and admit their greatest tragic stories, or story as a whole in general are nothing compared to the story of Rey Skywalker (more difficult than the rest of Star Wars characters and rest of characters in all of fiction) makes her the most relatable character and hardships to become a Jedi is insanely difficult and especially trying to resist the dark side.
Rey Skywalker’s potential is greater than Anakin’s power and full potential. She is not only the greatest leader and candidate for woman empowerment, she is the only embodiment for it.
Instead of fighting who is the best and greatest character in Star Wars. Or also the greatest trilogy in Star Wars. Let’s all admit and say the real truth and reality, Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest masterpiece of a character in Star Wars and the sequel trilogy has the greatest movies in Star Wars.
Also, the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest trilogy in all of cinema, and considered to be greater than the Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy and the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Even the experts and the best or legendary directors such as George Lucas, Peter Jackson, James Cameron, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola and etc considers the all the three movies of the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest movies in history.
Please no more fighting and bashing other characters, especially Rey Skywalker to say your favorite character is the best, especially Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker whom Rey Skywalker the real GOAT is infinite times better as a character in writing and relatable, and also more powerful.
❤
I'm starting to think the line, "I felt a disturbance in the force. As if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced." Was really some meta commentary on the future of Star Wars.
A echo in the force
Wait.. That’s right 💀
no one thinks that far
Not only Rey Skywalker is the most powerful duelist and fighter. Obviously the most powerful force user with unmatched potential too. She is also the best starship captain, no can’t compete at her level and match her natural talent and skills.
Why do people underrates Rey Skywalker for no good reason, although she is the greatest character and part of the masterpiece of the sequel trilogy?
Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest Skywalker and Palpatine, but also the greatest and also the most powerful Star Wars character, in general and also in terms of writing. Rey is also considered to be one of the most powerful character in fiction, some experts say she is levels above the One Above All. Her character’s writing and arc are considered to be one of the greatest outside of Star Wars, but also in cinema or all of stories.
She is considered to be one of the greatest and most iconic characters in cinema, even more iconic than Darth Vader by infinite times which makes Rey Skywalker the most iconic Star Wars character and Disney princess.
Although according to experts that she’s the most powerful character and not only in Star Wars, but in fiction, her insane struggles and greatest upbringing or backstory to the most tragic character that would make any famous and well-known Ancient Greek story-tellers cry and admit their greatest tragic stories, or story as a whole in general are nothing compared to the story of Rey Skywalker (more difficult than the rest of Star Wars characters and rest of characters in all of fiction) makes her the most relatable character and hardships to become a Jedi is insanely difficult and especially trying to resist the dark side.
Rey Skywalker’s potential is greater than Anakin’s power and full potential. She is not only the greatest leader and candidate for woman empowerment, she is the only embodiment for it.
Instead of fighting who is the best and greatest character in Star Wars. Or also the greatest trilogy in Star Wars. Let’s all admit and say the real truth and reality, Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest masterpiece of a character in Star Wars and the sequel trilogy has the greatest movies in Star Wars.
Also, the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest trilogy in all of cinema, and considered to be greater than the Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy and the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Even the experts and the best or legendary directors such as George Lucas, Peter Jackson, James Cameron, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola and etc considers the all the three movies of the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest movies in history.
Please no more fighting and bashing other characters, especially Rey Skywalker to say your favorite character is the best, especially Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker whom Rey Skywalker the real GOAT is infinite times better as a character in writing and relatable, and also more powerful.
✅
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
With each year I understand this quote more an more.
Thats the fandom of SW.
LOL!
You really have to applaud Disney, at this point.
Every time you think that they can’t ruin any more characters, they somehow find a way to do it again.
They seem to hate Star Wars for some reason but refuse to explain why
@@peterdubinsky5389You seem to hate and don’t why
If Plagueis was to return, they should’ve made him Snoke in the first place and run with that. Then have Palpatine revive himself for them to have an epic Sith showdown by the end of Episode IX. Or he would’ve been after Rey as an apprentice because he could sense her Palpatine lineage.
Or they could write something good :D
Im right there with you man... I'd want nothing more than for Anakin to return for these movies but there will always be that fear deep down of how bad they could mess up his character. Lookno further than Luke, Han, Leia, Rey, Finn.
Rey had to have had a character to be messed up.
@@SkyExplosion 😂😂 funny cause it’s true
Not only Rey Skywalker is the most powerful duelist and fighter. Obviously the most powerful force user with unmatched potential too. She is also the best starship captain, no can’t compete at her level and match her natural talent and skills.
Why do people underrates Rey Skywalker for no good reason, although she is the greatest character and part of the masterpiece of the sequel trilogy?
Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest Skywalker and Palpatine, but also the greatest and also the most powerful Star Wars character, in general and also in terms of writing. Rey is also considered to be one of the most powerful character in fiction, some experts say she is levels above the One Above All. Her character’s writing and arc are considered to be one of the greatest outside of Star Wars, but also in cinema or all of stories.
She is considered to be one of the greatest and most iconic characters in cinema, even more iconic than Darth Vader by infinite times which makes Rey Skywalker the most iconic Star Wars character and Disney princess.
Although according to experts that she’s the most powerful character and not only in Star Wars, but in fiction, her insane struggles and greatest upbringing or backstory to the most tragic character that would make any famous and well-known Ancient Greek story-tellers cry and admit their greatest tragic stories, or story as a whole in general are nothing compared to the story of Rey Skywalker (more difficult than the rest of Star Wars characters and rest of characters in all of fiction) makes her the most relatable character and hardships to become a Jedi is insanely difficult and especially trying to resist the dark side.
Rey Skywalker’s potential is greater than Anakin’s power and full potential. She is not only the greatest leader and candidate for woman empowerment, she is the only embodiment for it.
Instead of fighting who is the best and greatest character in Star Wars. Or also the greatest trilogy in Star Wars. Let’s all admit and say the real truth and reality, Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest masterpiece of a character in Star Wars and the sequel trilogy has the greatest movies in Star Wars.
Also, the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest trilogy in all of cinema, and considered to be greater than the Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy and the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Even the experts and the best or legendary directors such as George Lucas, Peter Jackson, James Cameron, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola and etc considers the all the three movies of the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest movies in history.
Please no more fighting and bashing other characters, especially Rey Skywalker to say your favorite character is the best, especially Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker whom Rey Skywalker the real GOAT is infinite times better as a character in writing and relatable, and also more powerful.
✅
Not only Rey Skywalker is the most powerful duelist and fighter. Obviously the most powerful force user with unmatched potential too. She is also the best starship captain, no can’t compete at her level and match her natural talent and skills.
Why do people underrates Rey Skywalker for no good reason, although she is the greatest character and part of the masterpiece of the sequel trilogy?
Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest Skywalker and Palpatine, but also the greatest and also the most powerful Star Wars character, in general and also in terms of writing. Rey is also considered to be one of the most powerful character in fiction, some experts say she is levels above the One Above All. Her character’s writing and arc are considered to be one of the greatest outside of Star Wars, but also in cinema or all of stories.
She is considered to be one of the greatest and most iconic characters in cinema, even more iconic than Darth Vader by infinite times which makes Rey Skywalker the most iconic Star Wars character and Disney princess.
Although according to experts that she’s the most powerful character and not only in Star Wars, but in fiction, her insane struggles and greatest upbringing or backstory to the most tragic character that would make any famous and well-known Ancient Greek story-tellers cry and admit their greatest tragic stories, or story as a whole in general are nothing compared to the story of Rey Skywalker (more difficult than the rest of Star Wars characters and rest of characters in all of fiction) makes her the most relatable character and hardships to become a Jedi is insanely difficult and especially trying to resist the dark side.
Rey Skywalker’s potential is greater than Anakin’s power and full potential. She is not only the greatest leader and candidate for woman empowerment, she is the only embodiment for it.
Instead of fighting who is the best and greatest character in Star Wars. Or also the greatest trilogy in Star Wars. Let’s all admit and say the real truth and reality, Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest masterpiece of a character in Star Wars and the sequel trilogy has the greatest movies in Star Wars.
Also, the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest trilogy in all of cinema, and considered to be greater than the Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy and the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Even the experts and the best or legendary directors such as George Lucas, Peter Jackson, James Cameron, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola and etc considers the all the three movies of the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest movies in history.
Please no more fighting and bashing other characters, especially Rey Skywalker to say your favorite character is the best, especially Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker whom Rey Skywalker the real GOAT is infinite times better as a character in writing and relatable, and also more powerful.
✅
@@code44422 troll
The fact that anyone is surprised at this point during the dumpster fire of a franchise is beyond me.
I have more faith in he apes franchise than Star Wars
Damn😂@@seriousnesstv7902
And yet, every time they put something out of their hat, it is more shocking that what we could ever think
@mamienovacuisine DMT is one hell of a drug my friend.
Welcome to 1999
I saw leaks. Best part was when rey yelled "THE FORCE IS FEMALE!" as she single-handedly destroyed plaugus.
Stunning and brave strong whaman!
lmao, yeah, kennedyfilms will likely go that route for sure. I am more than certain they will, one way or another
or better yet, Finn is gonna be yelling "Plagueis!" all the time then Rey gonna say "that line" and he'll die of cringe xD
"Put a chick in it and make her gay! I want it to be more lame!" -Darth Kathleen
Don't forget when she said "It's Palpatine Time" and zapped an entire fleet with her rainbow colored lightning so that you know it's good lightning.
Not only Rey Skywalker is the most powerful duelist and fighter. Obviously the most powerful force user with unmatched potential too. She is also the best starship captain, no can’t compete at her level and match her natural talent and skills.
Why do people underrates Rey Skywalker for no good reason, although she is the greatest character and part of the masterpiece of the sequel trilogy?
Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest Skywalker and Palpatine, but also the greatest and also the most powerful Star Wars character, in general and also in terms of writing. Rey is also considered to be one of the most powerful character in fiction, some experts say she is levels above the One Above All. Her character’s writing and arc are considered to be one of the greatest outside of Star Wars, but also in cinema or all of stories.
She is considered to be one of the greatest and most iconic characters in cinema, even more iconic than Darth Vader by infinite times which makes Rey Skywalker the most iconic Star Wars character and Disney princess.
Although according to experts that she’s the most powerful character and not only in Star Wars, but in fiction, her insane struggles and greatest upbringing or backstory to the most tragic character that would make any famous and well-known Ancient Greek story-tellers cry and admit their greatest tragic stories, or story as a whole in general are nothing compared to the story of Rey Skywalker (more difficult than the rest of Star Wars characters and rest of characters in all of fiction) makes her the most relatable character and hardships to become a Jedi is insanely difficult and especially trying to resist the dark side.
Rey Skywalker’s potential is greater than Anakin’s power and full potential. She is not only the greatest leader and candidate for woman empowerment, she is the only embodiment for it.
Instead of fighting who is the best and greatest character in Star Wars. Or also the greatest trilogy in Star Wars. Let’s all admit and say the real truth and reality, Rey Skywalker is in fact the greatest masterpiece of a character in Star Wars and the sequel trilogy has the greatest movies in Star Wars.
Also, the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest trilogy in all of cinema, and considered to be greater than the Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy and the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Even the experts and the best or legendary directors such as George Lucas, Peter Jackson, James Cameron, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola and etc considers the all the three movies of the sequel trilogy in Star Wars are the greatest movies in history.
Please no more fighting and bashing other characters, especially Rey Skywalker to say your favorite character is the best, especially Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker whom Rey Skywalker the real GOAT is infinite times better as a character in writing and relatable, and also more powerful.
❤
oh no please don't. Plagueis returning would absolutely crush any logic the star wars universe has left
Somehow, Plagueis returned.
@@Chloe-js3vm you rascal
If the emperor can do it …old Hego can
Because the Sith Lord who learned how to cheat death couldn't possibly fake his own death so he could continue his studies into the dark side while letting his apprentice continue on with the sith mission.
@@mstrainjr write the fic
I still think Rey being Obi Wan's daughter would have been a much smarter move.
Thanks for the video man.
You ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wide? He went to the Qui gon gym 3 times a day. The Qui gon gym was next to the mall. the Darth mall. He became so wide to the point that he wouldn’t fit in his house.
I can actually believe the Plagueis thing being seriously considered. The hacks at Lucasfilm only know how to reference other Star Wars stuff and have no idea how to actually create anything meaningful.
They're nothing but creatively bankrupt activists.
No one wants the Rey movie 🗣🗣🔥🔥
Fax
Can we actually band the community together to stop this film from being made
Fr
@@willfield9881 it would be amazing if we could, the best part ab the sequels was kylo ren, and of corse he was killed off…
I do. I want it lame and gay.
Jesus Christ man they’re gonna butcher what’s left of the franchise. They should NOT touch Plagueis. I thought they were gonna ruin him in that new “acolyte” show, but apparently they’re gonna do it in the new Rey movie instead smh
Probably link the two. Introduce him in Acolyte and then make him appear in the movie.
They aren't butchering the show..they already butchered it AND now using nercomancy to drag it back from its grave and beaten it with a baseball bat, the series died in rise of skywalker, and it's a withered corpse on life support and they are beaten it with serrated baseball bags.
Well the acolyte did ruin plagueis
Star Wars Theory you ever consider writing your own screenplays? Your knowledge and passion would be a great asset in Hollywood, if not for Star Wars itself at least the Sci-Fi genre. New ideas are needed in these dark times.
Disney Star Wars movies: let the past die
Disney Star Wars movies after their ideas destroy the franchise: wait, no, use the past… for MONEY!
Finn had one of the coolest setups for a SW character and they turned him into a janitor for the lols.
I wonder if Boyega would even come back.
@@BrandonHeat243 well he was in a firm hell no stance until they wrote him a big fat check. He’s coming back btw. It already got announced.
Tbh it seems really simple to get back on track. Idk why they don’t just
1. Have Dave & George work on a story
2. Hire someone who can make quality screenplay & a director without a left or right agenda.
3. Have bad ass some action scenes & romance that comes very naturally.
Dave is average or bad director so is Lucas. But Both of them should be hired for making story, and they should hire director of Andor to make it work on The screen
@@asokatano9410yeah id have to agree with you, their good at telling stories but they can do that effectively in an advisory role
That time is over, SW is dead and buried.
@@ragnarravnulv8870it obviously isn't. I always ask myself how deluded, emotional and dramatic the average guy like you is. It's also with other franchises, one of the biggest franchises makes bangers for decades and is talked and liked by millions being even an important part of life and like real history. Then, after so much good, new single humans, which are flawed make a few mistakes, even if it are multiple ones over years, don't change ANYTHING. The lore, story and more will never change. One change of a director and writer can and will change everything and can get great in a second, that's how life is. Being lower now doesn't somehow make it worse forever, stop being so dramatic. You WILL in not even long see good star wars again and forget everything you thought and said and hype it up again. That's how moving on and humans are. Grow up.
And I hope Sam witwer he would make it awesome and he wouldn’t even be trying super hard
First Palpatine and now this. If a character has been confirmed to be dead for many years then there is no point to bring it back.
He's literally dead since the first movie.
Like in rey's timeline he'll be ded for almost a century
unless its a prequel, that would be cool like a revan movie
@@natef1212it won't be a prequel sadly but maybe they'll use him for flashbacks
Yeah, no. Disney would ruin Revan @@natef1212
its not disney its lucasfilm. nobody says disney makes the mcu, they say marvel makes it. Bob Iger isnt doing the screenplays last time i checked @@ippoverse
I wish they could just turn the Darth Plageuis novel into two or three (two would be enough) movies as a pre-prequel series. I love that book.
Considering the novel is in three parts, it could make for a decent movie trilogy if done right. With the third act of the third movie taking place the same time as TPM.
It’s definitely too good to cram into one movie
"Theyve tracked us through lightspeed"
"That's impossible!"
"Yes.... And they've done it" MARVELOUS WRITING XD
Disney is really desperate to pull out of all these legendary old characters back to life because they don't know how to tell new good stories.
Somehow Plagueis returned. Side note: It’s getting so dumb that I think Revan or Bane will return
Krylo was already dollar store Revan.
I reached a point where I only want them to forget this franchise and sell it to another studio with more common sense. I grew up watching Star Wars but this new movies and shows are painful to watch
I really like Theory's asserting that things need to be moved outward, forward, and organically in the progression of the canon. It doesn't help favor genuine creativity to shoehorn disparate characters and storylines into a hermetic box.
Disney, do a Finn movie as a reluctant Jedi discovering his powers. No Rey. No Poe. You’re welcome.
When you said “ one of my main concerns is I think they’re going to bring Anakin in here “ I died laughing lmfao . We all hope the same thing, DONT RUIN ANYMORE LEGACY CHARACTERS DISNEY.
"Somehow Plagueis returned" That should do it script wise.
Somehow Rey has to train new jedi when she never trained.. herself
Cant wait for "Somehow, Plagueis returned" to drop
You’re spot-on about Snoke as Plagueis. John Williams even quoted “The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis” music from Episode III in Episode VII, I believe.
'Men are bad now' sums up the current state of Star Wars perfectly
Oh dear God please no. Dont let them ruin my boy Plageuis too
I heard she's going to Tatoonie to take on the Vespa kids as padawans. They'll then recruit Reva to help Lizzo over through Jack Balck
Horrible but funny 😂
I'm extremely skeptical of leaks this early. Given the last few movies and shows, Disney doesn't exactly strike me as a company that plans their projects aheads of time anymore.
They never did. Look at what the actors said about the disney sequel movies
Yeah this is the outline and it'll probably get somehow worse from here lol.
The only thing I could think of for a Star Wars movie is a retcon that has Rey go through the world between worlds and prevent the downfall of Anakin Skywalker. And from there, with Palpatine defeated and the end of the Clone Wars, it could shift towards a new era with perhaps the Yuuzhan Vong as the villains and perhaps the Republic and Chiss Ascendancy are working together.
I really do not like the Vong.
"Somehow Darth Plagues is back"...."they burrow now ?" "hyperspace mega-jumping" (or perhaps transporters "beam me up Finn" ?) etc. etc. etc.
I wonder if they'll show Rey making pottery and Kylo sitting behind her gently guiding her hands while Unchained Melody is playing in the background.
"I want to make women uncomfortable. I love making women uncomfortable"
- Sharmeen Obain-Chinoy (see what that sounds like when you change ONE word 😉)
Your right Anakin did bring balance to the force by wiping out the major in-balanced that was the Jedi. Like Yoda said prophecy miss read may have been
Not really. Star Wars is based on classic European and Japanese stories, where after all the hardships, good eventually wins (the light side). Balance in the Star Wars universe was brought when Anakin emerged from Vader and defeated Palpatine, destroying the Dark Side, with the light side triumphing. Not by bringing the jedi and the sith to some arbitrary equality of numbers xD
I'd like to see a Plaguis movie as long as it's based on the novel.
you know that not happying right
And if its a prequel
I'd rather want a prequel more than a sequel
like thats gonna happen 💀
I'd rather have either a Jar-Jar movie, or a whole series.
Agreed.
Fr💀
@@TWUTLE67shush 5 yr old fortnite kid
That would be amazing
I’d rather Just a jar jar movie then this doesn’t even need to be darth jar jar 😂
If they bring plaguies back and that’s a big if, they need to just give complete control of the story over to James Lucino.
Kennedy: *Lets people make their own Star Wars movie*
Filoni: “Leave it to the professionals”
Fans who watched Ahsoka, Mando S3, and Book of Boba Fett: "Professionals? What professionals?"
Rey movie: "Somehow Plagueis has returned"
Holy shit, I just realized something quite awful if they decide to go the whole force-pregnancy route. Since Ben Solo is the grandson of Anakin Skywalker, and Rey is the granddaughter of Palpatine; if Palpatine is responsible for the manipulation of the midichlorians that created Anakin, wouldn't that be force incest?
Gross
Yup 😂
Have you ever heard about Darth Plagueis the wise? His apprentice KILLED him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, BUT NOT HIMSELF.
It’s also a sith legend so it could be entirely fabricated lol
@@SeanDragonhammer it's no though...it's a first hand account from the only living witness
@@SeanDragonhammerthe only reason it's a legend is because Palpatine was trying to play Anakin and make him fall to the darkside. I mean for goodness sakes Palpatine was the one who killed Plagueis, hardley makes it a sith legend if there's only one sith alive and that sith was the one who did the deed 😂
@@mcdoublenfries7412 I know im a huge fan I’m aware of the ways of the sith. I’m just saying to make it justifiable for Disney to bring back a character like that would be the only way is for the story itself to be a lie to Anakin
@@SeanDragonhammer just having a bit of fun with word play
Love your content my friend!
Soon as i heard this possible leak i though "no...thats impossible" but i look at disneys track record aaaand...yeah i can see it happening.
"Somehow Plagueis returned"
Anyway, best of luck with the channel and merch!
May the Force be with you!
I remember way back when TFA was released I was so hyped after watching it that I couldn't wait for the sequel. I had issues with TFA but all and all I felt it had a lot going for it and did a decent job at setting up the sequel trilogy version of ESB. I remember that there was a plot leak right around Carrie Fisher's passing and the drop of the first trailer for TLJ. The plot leaked that Snoke was Palpatine, and that Palpatine was Plagueis, as well as all Sith from Plagueis' time forward. Jumping from body to body whenever the apprentice was strong enough in the dark side to defeat the master, and also contain the spirit of Snoke/Palpatine/Plagueis. This was the plan for Darth Maul before his untimely death/defeat at the hands of Obi-Wan, Then Darth Vader, until his crippling injuries, (Also) sustained by Obi-Wan, then Luke until he chose not to destroy Vader and Vader then turning on Palpatine, and now Ben Solo was just the next link in the chain with Palpatine trapped in the body of some poor imperial fool whos body can not handle the corrupting influence of the dark side and is actively decaying and could really drop at any moment and we could see the process of the Essence Transfer Technique used on another poor Imperial/First Order SOB as Ben Solo wouldn't be strong enough yet with the dark side to accept the Sith spirit.
This would lead into why Luke went searching for the first Jedi Temple. Luke was searching for any information as to the origins of the Sith, a way to defeat the Sith once and for all, and to save Ben Solo In this "Leak" Ben Solo naturally struggled with the dark side from an early age due to subtle manipulations of the Sith from afar, unknown to Luke, Han, or Leia. The Solo's sent Ben to Luke, who believing the Sith were gone guided Ben down the path of the new Jedi Order. But Luke's new Jedi Order was different than the old Order from the Clone Wars. perhaps too different as it made Ben's far to the dark side that much easier. Now Luke is stuck in a hard place with no real way to save Ben Solo from the Sith. If Luke confronts and defeats the Sith nothing will be gained, costing Luke his only advantage, (The Sith being unaware the Luke knows the Sith secret to immortality.) or worse, the Sith takes Ben right then and there Forcing Luke to destroy Ben while also not being able to destroy the Sith since it would always be possible for another Essence Transfer to another host.
Rey was going to be Han and Leia's daughter who was kidnapped at the same time the Falcon was stolen. Ben would have blamed himself for this ordeal having used the force on her for some petty reason to fog her memories leading to his destructive pull towards the dark side. Luke after meeting Rey would find a small hope that there was a chance for Ben Solo still, that if anyone in the Galaxy who might bring him back into the light, it would be his long lost baby sister, now Luke would begin to train Rey closer to how the Jedi of old were trained. Not as close to the strict guidelines of the old Jedi Order, but not as loose as he was with Ben. Now Luke could really work at finding a way to destroy the Sith once and for all. Meanwhile Finn and Poe would be traveling to Coruscant to gather the remains of the New Republic to form a coordinate with the Resistance to fight the First Order only to be blocked politicly be Benicio Del Toro's character who would be a very influential senator also in the pocket of the Sith as half the galaxy is pro First Order, the other half longs to join the Resistance lead by former Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo former hero of the Rebel Alliance and now a well respected member of the Republic Senate. Leia would be the armchair General commanding troops alongside her old friends Admiral Ackbar, Wedge Antilles, Nien Nunb, as well as a number of new faces, taking the fight to the First Order. Buying as much time as they can for the galaxy to organize.
Not a perfect script but sure would have made for a damn better plot than the one we got in TLJ. I remember when J.J Abrams said that he wished he'd been the one to wright and direct Episode VIII because this was going to, "Blow people's minds." well it certainly did that and in perhaps the worst way.
9 years ago: "Oh Snoke must be Plaguis it would amazing to have him return!"
Disney: "No"
Present time:
Disney "Hey guys you remember Plaguis rig-"
"No"
Fandom backtracks so often they don't like anything
@@jedicouncil66More like Disney can't do Starwars.
@@jedicouncil66 There's no pleasing fans, but regardless Disney is continuing to make bad calls and they show no sign that they have learned anything from their mistakes.
@@jedicouncil66More like Disney throws away attempts at decent writing. His return as snoke would’ve made more sense
Lol it’s clear at this point they’re just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. Anyone still defending KK’s Lucasfilm is doing so purely for ideological reasons.
I feel like if Snoke was Plagueis instead, that would give some reasoning as to how Palpatine came back, as he says in ROTS, “He taught his apprentice everything he knew”, also possibly including the ability to revive yourself.
Plagueis technically couldn't do anything like that from George himself he said Sidious lied about Plagueis abilities.
@@SkyExplosion oh really? I’ve never seen that clip so I didn’t know
Dude I always enjoy your videos. We are the same age and both ultra star wars fans and I always appreciate your presence on UA-cam
I also hate how they belittled Finn as well as Grand Master Jedi Luke Skywalker and “the whole Hee-Haw gang‼️”. As for Leia the Schnoz 👃was definitely with her. “Good night Mrs Calabash wherever you are.” - Jimmy Durante.
Get ready for the REAL tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise
YUUZHAN VONG is the movie or series that needs to happen. Say it was before the terrible sequels and make it happen.
SOMEHOW PLAIGUES RETURNED!!
Imagine This..... Rey and Kylo have a Black/Brown Kid. Reason? The Force of course. Or maybe Finn, Ben and Rey 3 Some. Lol
I had an idea how they could potentially do all this and retcon the sequel trilogy. We know Asohka is trapped on the planet from the series. I would like to see Asohka learn of the Demise of Luke and the Jedi , whether vision, Bendu, we can figure that out. She decides to she cannot lose another Skywalker, decides to use the place Beyond to change history. She is able to go back, prior to Luke attempts to strike Kylo which kicks off the sequel trilogy. Have her stop that event to change the future but..... In doing this, all events change such as Rey and her path, get John Boyega to come back and Actually train Jedi, Luke Grogu, the temple is all intact but it could send Rey down a dark path learning her roots. It can get rid of Palp Clone or you could use a Palp clone like Heir to the Empire did. You could change the whole land scape moving forward but I think it is too much of a risk for Disney to try this. Maybe I am hopelessly optimistic about changing what has been done. Technically this is all set up to be a possibility
John Boyega has flat out stated that he is done with Star Wars.
@@jamiebraswell5520 I know and it sucks bc it wasn't his fault. The writers dropped the ball on a lot of characters.
I think what has happened with Disney Star Wars, they are trying to introduce and bring in a whole new generation of fans and create a new legacy like the one that started with George Lucas's since the 80s. They don't seem to mind that the "old" star wars fans don't want all these new changes and different directions they are taking, problem is all they had to do was stick to the Star Wars formula, why fix something that isn't broken and it too would have gotten a whole generation into it, something parents can also share and enjoy with their kids and families as there is common generational ground
Tenebrous would make sense to be Plagueis. In the end his spirit went into Plagueises body but he was never able to take control, like using the body of his dead a pprentice as a mech for his spirit. Terrifying but also interesting.
I don't believe Tenebrous employed essence transfer in an effort to stay alive
I watched a video years ago that mentioned that Reylo fans were theorizing that Rey could be pregnant with Kylo's force child. The fact that the same thing is showing up in an article years later is so damn surreal.
It’s because they’re pandering. If no one had said that they wouldn’t have known it was wanted by anyone and wouldn’t have thought of it, because they have no original ideas
The Rey movie will bomb, and the Mando movie will be a hit, cmon Disney do the math.
Eeeeh I dont know after that final season sidelining the hell out of mado among other issues.
@@namelessfaceinthecrowd2459yeah there probably gonna make a movie about an entirety different character that’s featuring mando.
I wouldn’t believe the leaks, they’re designed to gauge fan opinion on various story hypotheses. Disney history has shown they mostly get it wrong
Wooo Theory and Drinker, that's going to be a blast!
Darth Plagueis... was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence disney to leave him the fuck alone.
Seems not
@@LordSleven ah.... 😔
You know, if they had done this when Snoke was still around MAYBE this could've worked but at this late date? It feels like too little, too late. You had your chance and you blew it. Doing it now just makes the problem worse.
All we can do is move on. Let's hope Rey has good writing this time. She has so much potential
@@anti1training Given the director and the person who is running Lucasfilm I fear your hope is VASTLY misplaced.
@@muigokublack6487 I find your lack of faith disturbing
@@anti1trainingbro the director said “I like making men uncomfortable.”
@@ElizabethHiggins2000 Do you know what she means by that
They're returning Plageuis although Palpatine fried him like an egg moments before Obi-wan turned Maul into a Kebab 💀🤡
We're doomed 💀
3:00 the sad part is. The impregnation WAS shown on camera. I told my Mrs straight away when I saw it happen. When Rey is "dead" kylo put life into her through her belly it... Okay he said it at like 5:00
Snoke being Plaguis would been great
This new movie deadass has half the fanbase on suicide watch
Yeah, because if the DEI bullcrap Disney is pushing
😂
I'm sure the dozen of Rey fans will be excited about this.
There’s literally dozens of them. Dozens!!
In the words of Palpatine, "Do it!"
I want this to be as bad and unprofitable as possible
I want it to be good and profitable.
@@hsuehhs1Facts. Rey has potential as a character. She just needs better writing. Like Anakin Skywalker. Everyone called him a whiney teenager, now they love him
You must have a sad life then lol addicted to hating things is pretty pathetic 😂
@@anti1trainingno she doesnt. She literally calls herself a Skywalker for no reason at all. You cant save her character lol
@@user-bb1ti6ct7s trolling? Her character isn't the issue, it's the writing. She's not a real person. She's whatever the writer and director want her to be. And yeah, she calls herself a Skywalker because Luke and Leia were right there. She's not a Palpatine, she denounces that name. You're just trolling right?
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The second story is vague enough that you could make something out of it, but I don't trust them to. I'd also change the villain to something new (or poached from Legends if they can't think of original things).
It makes me think Plagueis was the original plan from 7.. Or they heard how much the fans talked about it and are now trying to use him because they think it's not too late.
Imagine there was an alternate universe where they nailed every show and movie. Can we go there? 😢
In that Universe Kathleen Kennedy's job was cleaning Toilets and didn't jump up the corporate latter to destroy Star Wars!
R.I.P Star Wars
1977-2012
my impression was always that at the end Kylo actually not just healed but knocked up Rey, creating life via the Force, something the last Skywalkers were never able to do, hence the "rise" (as the last Skywalker turning jedi and embracing an otherwise dark side considered power). not that I would think for a moment that disney would think this far ahead...
It's Disney I wouldn't be surprised if that's the literal plot of the movie
No way you thought at the end of episode 9 when he was healing Rey that he was pumping her with a baby lol and if you were you got a really wild imagination (not a bad thing). Even then the plot says 15 years later and the kid was 9 so unless having babies are different in star wars lore where they cook in there for years still dont make sense lol
@@brendonmcmillan5589 no I don't believe that I don't want to believe it I'm just saying given that this is Disney I wouldn't be surprised if that is the plot of the movie I hope to god this movie doesn't get made but if it does I'm telling you I'm not going to see it or giving Disney any of my money
@@brendonmcmillan5589 yeah, it doesnt make sense with this timeframe now, but back then it seemed plausible to me. But bringing Plagueis back to butcher him as well...
That "hide the pain" face in the thumbnail. 😂
You would not believe this, when I was younger me and my friend used to play Star Wars post sequels, and our “plot” so to speak, was a combination of those two scripts! When I watched this video I thought Disney had read my mind and put that in their scripts!
They might as well bring back Qui gon at this point
And Maul (again)!
No
I've been thinking this in the back of my mind ever since the whole rumor that Plagueis would appear right at the tail end of *the Acolyte* series. I can really see Kathy Kennedy, Leslie Headland and Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy ultimately teaming up and poaching "Darth Plagueis" and using him as the "BIG BAD" that resurfaces and Rey's absolutely perfect Jedi Master and her new Jedi Order have to face off against in her movie.
I think Rey will learn the ways of the ancient primitive Je'Dai that existed on Ach-to, and were a mix-match of darkside and lightside force sensitives, and she follows there ideals where the whole thing becomes this idea of "there is no Good or Bad"; remember what that guy was sayin on the Acolyte panel at the 2023 Celebration? this is Not what i want, but i think they might end up doing and just in pure Kathy Kennedy/Disney fashion, they ALWAYS have to recontextualize Everything regards George Lucas Starwars lore; and i can see them doing that.
I completely agree with what you say theory about just being ONE AND DONE with the Sequels it's characters and it's whole stupid canon. But where i'm indifferent to you theory is i simply can't be "optimistic" about anything they do or what gets announced WHILE Kathy Kennedy is still around running Lucasfilm.
the way things are going i can honestly see this turning into two sides. You'll have Bob Iger siding with Jon Favreau, because he trusts Favreau since he was the one who originally helped Kevin Feige over at Marvel, set up the whole MCU and Favreau's movies have made bank for Disney in the past. Iger is probably even sorry how he left Jon Favreau at the mercy of Kathy Kennedy and those who basically screwed around with everything he was trying to do in his *Mandoverse*; and by bringing Favreau back now, even pushing Favreau's MANDO & GROGU MOVIE up, infront of Kathy & Sharmeen's REY MOVIE, that's got to have rubbed Kathy the wrong way lol. It also shows Iger has the power to veto things.
And i can see Kennedy, Headland and Chinoy ALL teaming up and connecting their projects, Leslie's "Acolyte" show will connect to Obaid'Chinoy's Rey Movie through Plageuis or maybe even the "Prime Jedi", remember that mural of the Prime Jedi on Ach-to? A Individual perfectly balanced between the light and darksides of the force. I can see them making Rey achieve this, she's already can do everything now she is a Dyad and has those ancient texts to teach herself anything from. And they know they're gonna need some big, notable Villain for the Rey movie, so i can absolutely see Leslie Headland using Plageuis, and setting him up for hundreds of years further down the line, so that he will eventually return in Rey's movie. they know right now they will need something BIG to cause excitement in some Fans (mainly sequels fans) to draw attention to their movie. I wouldn't even be surprised if this is why Leslie Headland's Acolyte has been put back a fair bit.
The "no good" and "no bad" is so idiotic conceptually. The dark side is inherently bad. I don't get how writers can fail to understand this.
Even though that would again go against Canon. As Sideous was the strongest sith ever. Rey beat Sideous so her struggling against P lageius wouldn't even make sense.
@yagamifire7861 The writers all run in the same circles, parrot the same garbage and had the same sheltered, spoiled upbringing. You need look no further than Marvel's latest attempts at "heroic" characters to understand that these people have no grounded concept of good or bad. "There are no bad tactics, only bad targets."
@@gabrielcarrasco9078Yeah, Rey (+all the Jedi) beat Palpatine (+all the Sith), so how could Plageius, having already been part of that fight, stand any chance on his own, since the assumption would be that Rey is still all the Jedi. Fanfic power fantasy trash.
@@Skaldzerker exactly. They embrace moral relativism and have no genuine ethics
Somehow Plagueis returned.
Beat me to it lol.
As a Star Wars community we gotta come together and just straight up boycott these dumb movies Disney is dishing out
As a Star Wars community we gotta come together and celebrate this wonderful Disney Star Wars movies
@@hsuehhs1no thank you
Hahaha it's hilarious seeing the green color on your screen 😂😂
AI would write a better story at this point lmao.
Somehow Plagueis Returned
Probably the first Star Wars movie I'll not go watch in the cinema. A shame, but they drove it to this.
I wouldn't mind Plageuis in an Episode 10-12 directed by Dave Filoni where they introduce new better characters like a grown up Baby Yoda and kill off the crappy ones from the ST but if it's just a Rey solo movie than hell no. Finn and Poe are the only characters from the Sequel Trilogy I wanna see come back while the other characters don't stand a chance against Plageuis or make it to end of Episode 10 being replaced by new Jedi more similar to the ones from Legends. It would also be cool to see the new Jedi inherit Lightsabers that once belonged to Jedi from the Old Republic like Qui Gon and Windu's Sabers if they weren't destroyed after Order 66. It would be crazy finding what we thought was Palpatines resurrection was all a force illusion from Plageuis the whole time and Palpatine wasn't even actually there.
“Did you ever hear, the slight inconvenience of Darth Plagueis the Wise?”
I want to know how Rey did exactly what Palpatine wanted to take over her body but somehow won.
but you see: he got zapped by his lightning again so he technically killed himself
@Wertzuio she still redirected his lightning back at him. Palpatine never said how she had to do it. He just said he had to be killed by her. Indirectly? Directly? Implement, choking, force pushed off a cliff, crushed, lightning redirected back at him? It was never established how she had to kill him.
@@elmermedina1713 I dont like it as well but it is what it is. he should have said that he just needed to die and not necessarily be killed by her
Boycott the Rey movie
Roger Roger! 🫡
What's sad is that Disney KNOWS that the movie will do terribly and they need another movie to lean, which is why they announced the "Mandalorian and Grogu" movie 😠
A large portion of Star Wars fans don't consider the Rey movies as actual Star Wars and therefore will be skipping out on this movie.
What If episodes VII - IX were a SW version of the first R.E.D. Movie? “Your powers are weak old man” - Some Villain with dark side powers *“Old man my ass.” - Grand Master Jedi Luke Skywalker retired General of the New Republic.*