Echo Reviews are out for the latest Disney Marvel show on Disney+. Well, the social media ones are across Twitter. Personally I don't think Echo will listen to criticism. For some reason Disney Marvel doesn't trust the critics to write full reviews and are limiting them to 240 characters, really fills me with confidence :) Did Disney think the critics would be too busy virtue'ing all over the movie for 240 characters to leave anything left to criticise the plot? If they did, they'd be right. We hear lots about 1 leg, being def, Americans, but very little conversation about the plot. Well, except to say that its a "slow burn" and "bad pacing". But what do you think about Echo from what you've seen? Will you be watching Echo on Disney+? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)
@@jrwilliams4029 tough call. On the one hand, he won’t have to hear echo’s protagonist speak, but on the other, Robyn hood’s main character engaged in more “action” than echo could believably choreograph for their actual action show. Just ask the cookie jar
"When you see how Echo loses her leg, your mind will be blown by how insanely stupid the writers are." My mind won't be blown by it, I did see how Nick Fury lost his eye.
So did he. Note the reference to physics and going back to school. Fury losing his eye was stupid and a desecration, but it at least made sense. Powerful space cat scratches you? Yep, that would be a permanent scar. This is apparently cartoon physics bad.
When the one legged lady is thrown into a desk and signs 'You again?' is the person she's fighting fluent in ASL? Do deaf people 'talk to themselves out loud' by wiggling their fingers?
One of the most badass characters in Captain America: The Winter Soldier is the control-room tech who, even with a gun to his head, refused to follow HYDRA's orders. Ten-thousand times more badass than the shrimpy little stronk unrepentant wammans who perform physically-impossible stunts with the help of fifteen cuts.
I worked with a hearing impaired person and to be frank it was very challenging. Most of the time I was having to work twice as hard to make up for her disability to do her job. That being said she was a very pleasant person and I was more than happy to help her out. But if I went up to her on day one and she informed me she was hearing impaired and I said "Oh!! we should celebrate the fact that you can't hear as good as the rest of us!! We should celebrate your deafness!!" She would of thought I was a hateful monster.
I used to teach English overseas and a woman came to me that was deaf and she wanted me to reach her not only to read and write (she actually was decent at it from school but hadn't kept up since graduating) but also wanted to learn to lip read was even practicing verbal communication. She was a very happy person and just accepted her disability and wanted to work to get around it. She knew it was holding her back but wasn't letting it stop her from doing more. We worked for many months before I moved away but I still follow her Facebook and she became a professional photographer . She is good and is living a good life because she doesn't give up. Point is, they don't need or want you to pander to them. They want to get better and overcome their weaknesses just as we should try with our own.
I work with a man who's hearing deteriorated due to a head injury as a child. He uses hearing aids and lip reading. He told me that his hearing aids are good but not perfect so if he can hear and see it's much better. He had a terrible time during covid as he couldn't lip read through masks. Whenever we worked together we'd ditch the masks so we could communicate better.
Because that would be completely nonsensical. Why would we celebrate something that makes life more challenging? It’s pretend virtue. It’s the same thing when we tell a 100+ pound overweight woman she is hot. We are just lying to them. No one celebrates deafness because it’s not something to celebrate.
Having taken basic sign language courses in college as an additional skill to add to the classes that I was already taking for my major. And having deaf /hearing impaired friends gave me some understanding of some, but not all issues that the deaf hearing impaired Community faces on a daily basis. I was lucky enough to use some of the skills I learned later on during my working career as a security officer. I'm now retired and with that being said.. what I watched of this left me both sad and angry because of all the wasted potential. They spent so much time checking the boxes they didn't even write a coherent story that would draw people in. This wasn't just tone deaf, it was badly executed, stupid, and a waste of artistic talent, both in front of and behind the camera
Frankly I find myself offended for other people's sake that a series about a deaf girl wasn't directed or produced by deaf people. Truly more HEARING PRIVILEGE!
At least they found a deaf amputee to play their deaf amputee. I’m sure all the deaf amputees are excited to see their disability paraded in a fictional manner on tv so they too know they can be superheroes.
I still rewatch that series from time to time... granted it got into jump the shark territory in the last couple of seasons but early on it was tremendous.
@@BiggieTrismegistus Agreed. I think what we consider cheesy, is just something produced during a more optimistic time. Shows just how far we've strayed.
I don't give a shit about "representation", but AoS nailed it. Several female leads, multiple backgrounds, and they never crammed it down your throat. They show without telling how badass they are. They don't neuter the guys, everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. Everyone relies on everyone else. Everything was in service to the story. The characters occasionally fuck up and they all grow. Aside from a cringy line or two, for that many seasons, they did it so well.
@@Metalgarn I love the first seasons. Problem was that I put the show on hiatus, because the last seasons were only available on Disney+ here in Germany and I will do hell and pay for that. At some point I got D+ through shared watching, started with the first season I had not watched yet and... I had no F'ing clue what was going on. Apparently what happened between the last season and this one happened in a crossover between several other shows, which I had not watched and had no interest to do so. Which is, if you ask me, completely bollocks.
Imagine being an actor who can seamlessly convey pain, anger and ambition through non-verbal communication. You'd almost think they get paid daily for it.
Leo DiCaprio won an Oscar for that. In the Revenant, most of his scenes were solo where he conveyed pain and anger through grunts and non-verbal communication after being attacked by a bear and left for dead by his comrades
Cole Sprouse carries the entirety of "Lisa Frankenstein" and only actually speaks words for less than a minute. (Although he honestly does play a great reanimated corpse and is in fact remarkably expressive, I'm definitely saying the bar is set so low that it's in hell.)
There is an episode of "House M.D." in which a deaf person could be cured, but wanted to remain deaf... for cultural purposes. Imagine what Gregory had to say about it. Same thing with dwarfism BTW... (in another episode)
Actually, many people do refuse the new internal device, because it's very disorienting to them, they get terrible headaches and side effects, and therefore it's far from a 1oo% success rate, for a rather delicate and heavy surgery. So maybe , if you don't know the topic and its intricacies, don't issue blanket statements just because you watched an episode of a tv show. Not even speaking of mostly loosing your community You've been living in sometimes your whole life. So no, not such an easy decision as it may seem at first glance
@@ChristmasLorewhy would someone lose their community for accepting treatment? Changing someone's comment so you can pontificate isn't helping. Anyone that might not want treatment because of the potential side effects or complications are valid reasons to hesitate or turn down treatment. But they weren't talking about that, nor were they making blanket statements, beyond identifying with a medical condition to the point of closing yourself off to treatment is a limiting belief. We can all see it with people that resist blood transfusions on religious grounds, and we'd all be critical there but the same principle is in play here too.
@@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher - it's completely different situations. For one, the blood transfusions you're talking about are often life saving. And the refusal based on religious beliefs. You obviously have zero knowledge of the different deaf communities, so I won't even try. And btw, I've seen all seasons of House MD, and I happen to remember that episode. None of these issues were deeply explained/explored. Ps: I often have to modify my comments because English isn't my first language and I notice a mistake, or two, or three
@@ChristmasLore it's a pity you feel you have to make that assumption, because it's been something that has impacted people close to me. My aunt and my cousin wouldn't talk for years until recently because my aunt, who was deaf since her teens had an implant and can hear again but her daughter had very much the belief this was a betrayal of her community (she herself was not deaf) and it caused a significant rift in that wing of the family. My aunt had never heard her husband's or children's voices, and her daughter could not be moved from the idea that her mother was abandoning or diminishing a community by wanting to hear them. It was selling out in my cousin's mind. My comparison was never based upon the outcomes being the same, but the self imposed belief underlying it isn't universal- if someone wants to have that belief, go for it, but it's unreasonable to think it applies wholesale to a population of individuals that are only grouped because of a condition.
Echo can actually read lips in the comics, so she normally didn't need to use ASL to talk to people. But reading lips doesn't score those representation points for the MCU🤷🏾♂️
Apparently they changed her powers too. You know, to make it more “DIVERSE”. Not that I care though I stopped giving Disney my $ years ago. And their current $hit isn’t even worth sailing the seven seas…
@@BiggieTrismegistus There's always a artist who forgets something about the character they're writing for. Hard to find a character that hasn't suffered from that
They’re blind to what the audience wants and our criticisms fall on deaf ears. It may get a leg up with certain viewers, but the show will never go the distance during its run.
It's at 72% and 76% audience. The critics gave a few rotten scores. Secret Invasion, Eternals and Ant man 3, the critics like everything narrative is nonsense.
When people talk about her heritage and then realise they changed her lore tribe because they thought they were boring. So genuin much proper representation.
Where are all the ACTIVISTS? They dogpiled a young child & doxed him for wearing a Native headdress that was actually a native. But here the got the ceremonial drumming, and the outfit.. I’m just waiting to hear the thunderclaps and clouds spirits of horses raging through the skies
Lon Chaney, Sr. was reared by deaf parents. This trained him not merely in sign language, but in ACTING, in silently communicating ideas, emotions, intent, and character soley through expression of body and face. (That's leaving aside his justly earned man-of-a-thousand-faces reputation.)
I noticed in a fight scene she signs "you again" and I was confused, why did she do that? Was it for the henchman, was he deaf too? Or was it for the audience?
@Arassar If it were comics accurate (it probably won't be), Daredevil COULD actually see her signing. He has a radar-like hearing ability that allows him to "see" sound waves. He'd hear the movement of the air on her hands, or the sounds from other stuff bouncing off her, and "see" the signs. Just like in the Daredevil movie with Ben Affleck, where he can "see" his female love interest because it started to rain, and he could "see" each raindrop hitting her, and created a sound-image of her. Obviously, it's not actually "seeing", but movies are a visual medium, and that's how it was represented to us. He simply hears the sound waves and can discern similar information about his surroundings that we can with our sight.
Are you kidding me? A deaf person using ASL... IN A TV SHOW??? I didn't see that coming. Next you'll be telling me that a blind person was using a cane.
In CSI, Grissom's mother was deaf and they had entire episodes with deaf actors using ASL. Star Trek TNG had an episode where an alien negotiator named Reva's entire race was deaf and he used ASL as well as charades to communicate. Virtue signaling about the novelty of something that has been in TV and movies forever is so transparently stupid. Notice nobody is saying that the show is good. But it's diverse. And... representation... and inclusion... And didn't they change Echo's tribal affiliation for this show? She was Cheyenne in the comics, but now she's Choctaw? What about Cheyenne representation. Can't wait for Lizzo to play Queenpin.
After watching all 5 episodes last night, I still have no idea what the actual plot was. I think that it was supposed to be something like a coming of age story about how Maya protects her family through the mystical powers of her ancestors. But that idea is shot down by the fact (which is mentioned multiple times) that Maya is the one who put her family in the danger that awakened the powers of her ancestors.
When an identity or innate characteristic is the highlight if your show or movie - not characters, arcs, story, music, action etc. - you need to ask whether its worthy of being made.
Correct, but the opposite of that is modern D.I.E./ESG - If you DON'T highlight those things and ONLY superficial things, then it shouldn't be made. Modern audiences that don't exist no longer care about "good stories, good writing, good characters", they only want your pronouns, skin color, what's in your pants and who you rub it up against.
At that point, you’re just using people with certain traits as zoo animals. “Come one, come all! Gawk at these weirdos, existing! How strange they look!”
Wait... is Echo Deaf? And an AMPUTEE?!? AND A WOMAN?!?!?!? How does she do anything with that many disabilities???? Stunning and Brave!!! Edit: For those arguing Echo is indigenous in the replies, Choctaw are not native to New York you bigots. xD
I'm no speech pathologist but wouldn't it make more sense if echo could speak? I think 'mute' is the disability requiring the patient to use ASL, not 'deafness'... One would use ASL to Speak TO someone who is deaf, not the reverse...
The sad part is most (if not all) of the people reading your comment will totally NOT get your Jim Jones Kool-aid reference. Heck, most people scratch their heads when you mention a get out of jail free card...😂😂😂
If marvel *customers* (not fans) want the product then cool. But the financial evidence is that marvel customers do not want the product. Marvel has probably destroyed their market at this point and driven away over 2/3 of their customers. But if there *is* a path to recover, it's lower budgets, better writing and plotting, and returning to the 1980 to 2000 comic books canon.
Hmm. She started out as a supporting character in _Daredevil_ but I last read those issues like 15 years ago so I don't remember how they communicated.
As someone who is increasingly hearing-impaired, if someone tells me they're celebrating my inability to hear my own children's voices? I tell them I'm gonna celebrate the concussion they're fixin' to get.
Somebody needs to remind them there already was a movie about disabled people overcoming their disabilities. Darth Vader was an amputee. And yet he STILL became a Sith Lord!! He didn't let his disabilities stop him from achieving his goals. Sorry, Echo. 😞
Yes, but he was evil. Why is he evil? Maybe because he used technology to fix his disabilities according people who make Echo. Should have just used the force and no prosthetics. In fact wouldn't this character be more "in character" not to rely on artificial leg help?
What about the Six Million Dollar Man and Bionic Woman? The Six Million Dollar Man had his right arm, both legs and left eye replaced with bionic parts. The Bionic Woman had her right arm, both legs and right ear replaced with bionic parts
I don’t believe any of the actors that played his character were amputees in real life. Alaqua Cox on the other hand is an amputee and deaf outside of acting.
The “most important part of the story” should be the story, period. Not the nationality or ethnicity of the character….although, she’s also deaf. Did you know she was deaf? I heard she was deaf but I couldn’t be certain until everyone said she was deaf.
15:16 - "celebrating deafness"... That's like saying "celebrating cancer". These weirdos are in such a rush to virtue signal they can't even figure out why they shouldn't say something.
Sadly they didn't invent that, that's just how social justice itself talks about those things. You need to be proud of and celebrate every single box you tick... unless you're straight, white, male, able bodied, skinny, or intelligent. Basically if it's something that can win you oppression points then it's a good thing that you need to force other people to think you're amazing for being/having. Remember when the fat acceptance movement mutated into fat pride? When feminism changed from demanding equality to pushing for female supremacy? When racial equality became ... you get the picture. Celebrate doesn't mean what it used it, just like every other word they've desecrated and repurposed for their evil ends.
It's actually a thing it seems, amongst some communities with things like deafness - there was a deaf woman on an Australian panel show that I saw who openly said that if she was going to have a child and had the choice to ensure that the child would be deaf (ie through genetic counselling and intervention etc), that that's what she would choose. I could barely believe what I was hearng or that this is a reasonable thing to publicly state, or that people would apparently push for such things to be one day legal, but yeh. Edit: for what it's worth though, I overall liked the show despite its flaws hah
Reminds me of the giant arrow pointing to the center for the blind in my city. Worst part is the arrow is up on a pole! Poor buggers can't even feel where they are at with their canes.
I live in the Choctaw capitol and the tribe was so excited to be represented. They filmed actual pow wow with our actual Choctaws. How sad that they couldn’t have written it better.
I liked the bit in Austin Powers that had Fat Bastard in it because he was Scottish and he had bagpipes and a kilt on so that really represented his Scottish heritage
“This is being the darkest one yet” Fiege, you Easter island headed dummy, you’ve already done that, and way *way* better. It’s called The Punisher, starring Jon Lemmetellyewsummin Bernthal. And it was f*cking awesome.
I would rather watch the 3 gentlemen beating the drum and sing/chant for hours than watching one minute of this TV-show. At least they are not tone deaf and they represent real culture.
Ironic that a show giving deaf representation is bombarding viewers with fight scenes like that with deafening danceclub music, and stuntmen being really noisy when they're hit.
I'm from Oklahoma. The vast majority of Choctaw don't have Hispanic surnames. Most are Irish or Scottish. It's the central Indians (like Comanche) or South American that have Hispanic names because of the Hispanic colonies. Choctaw are from the East Coast - it's all European colonies.
and the are always crying (Trail of Tears), and never could beat the Iroquois League or the Lakota Comanche Apache locals after Andrew Jackson kicked em out of the US.
It’s clear they were attempting to make an MCU version of Andor. A dark, slow burn about a little known side character from a primitive culture oppressed by colonizers with more violence and less superpowers than expected for the genre. The issue is they did a terrible job chopping it up and editing the footage shot.
"Do you want to see her do her angry flamingo impression?" "Yeh, ok." "You should have fun and drink more. Last night was such a laugh, I ended up completely legless!" goes on for a while... darn good impression.
My wife is deaf and she broke down laughing when she heard about this show. Then we watched the trailer, and she laughed even harder. We won't be watching it...
I lost most respect for the actors playing Fisk and Daredevil for even agreeing to do this garbage without any of the writers or show runners from Netflix, lame cowards.
At this point, you cant believe anything Marvel says. They also said Moon Kight, Marvels version of a crazy Batman, would be visceral and violent. Meanwhile the the most mature thing they showed us was him beating on someone off screen. This franchise is ass.
Me: “What’s the show about?” Them: “A female with multiple physical disabilities who is an elite hand to hand melee fighter!” Me: “ffs” Them: “it’s all done in sign language” Me: “please stop speaking”
I'm guessing all those deaf people getting implants should be ashamed of not embracing their disabilities, especially those who cry of joy on youtube afte r hearing for the first time.
I DEAFinitely dont understand why this show needs to exist, just seems like another tone DEAF marvel show they shit out, and is being deaf and having one leg her only super power ?
That's embarrassing. Disney "Trot out the drum circle to promote the show!". What a stinky turd. So virtue pandering in the most insulting way. I'm not going to watch it.
What's this bizarre thing about referring to the protagonist's people as "Americans. As though nobody else who is born or lives in America is actually "American!" It's really funny how people obsessed with identity can't get basic facts about nationality right.
When I brought my Grade Cards home as a kid, and it was littered with all F's, I told my mother 'But mother, this is Badass. It's badass." That fixed everything.
If I didn't already know she's native american due to all the wokeness telling me she's a native american...I wouldn't even know she's native american! I don't watch movies and shows to feel empathetic. I watch stuff as an escape from the nonsense of the world, but instead we're getting shows that are doubling down on all of the nonsense we're trying to escape from....
The Kdrama "Twinkling Watermelon" was an AMAZING show about FAMILY. The family happened to be deaf parents, 1 deaf son and 1 hearing son! It incorporated music, time travel, and deaf characters, without anything seeming preachy! It SHOWED how she was treated and looked down on in their society in a way that made you angry and feel for the character. But she stood up for herself as much as she could and it was brilliantly done! High recommend.
Look into the story of Lon Chaney, Sr. He was born to two deaf parents, which made him uniquely familiar with non-verbal communication through expression and posture. He built the entire art form of film makeup, and his own acting career, upon that knowledge.
@@TheOriginal_Unaleska exactly! And I don’t need to see myself “as a white person” represented in Asian entertainment. I saw a “hot take” asking “do KDramas need more diversity?!” And I’m like ABSOLUTLEY NOT PLS STOP!!!!
I think Vivziepop's work on the scene between Fizzarolli and one of his fans (who surprisingly based on a real person) had true genuine emotion, plus the hand signs were accurate to the translations
Basically you've got people who exist, but are ultimately empty husks. They lack empathy for anyone but themselves, and have limited their identity to being certain traits like their gender identity, sexual orientation, ethnicity, and disability. So they can only connect to a character that has one of their own identifiable traits. Listen to them when they talk about why they like something, or better yet, why they say you hate it. Rey is boring and badly written character, a mary sue who just gets powers and abiltiites that allow her to beat everything in her path because... So they go "You just hate Rey cause she is a woman!" which means that is very high probability that is the only reason they like Rey. She is woman in popular thing. if you listen to normal people "With her son being sick, she braves through many trials even though she is not fearless and has a lack of power. Yet her desire to see her family is safe before the start of the farming year. The backgrounds are just gorgeous. And the acting is great all around. Its a great tale of overcoming adversity and working even with one's limitations, even if it does get oddly magically wrapped up in the end. But hey, get to at least see some of that sparkle. And no big lipped alligator moments. " vs "Its good movie cause woman goes feral and beats wannabe school shooter with laser sword."
Thank You Disparo for youir videos and commentaries. As an Englishman of the 21st century I DO NOT CARE WHAT MY ANCESTORS DID 3 HUNDRED YEARS AGO. I am not responsible nor have any guilt about their actions. I am English and I do not care nor have any say in how the americans sort their multicultural shtt out. I DO WANT GOOD ENTERTAINMENT FROM STUDIOS. Sadly Disney have lost any respect or good will they had with their modern EAT OUR MESSAGE programs and films. fcck "the message" and anyone that supports it.
While I'm not a fan of nor part of the multicult, I do apologize that our mess has spilled over onto your lawn while we try to sort it. Hopefully it won't leave a permanent mark.
Where was the PTSD press footage for Tony and Bucky? This is stupid. I only care if she’s handicap-able if it’s a great show or character and it’s not.
It continues to horrifying and astound me how much money Disney is putting into this. Genuinely, where is that money going? How have the stock holders not gone into revolt?
Fink is the stockholder, and he hates the west and Europe, even though we were the ones who dragged his ancestors OUT of camps, at MASSIVE cost to our own societies.
Look up ValueAct and Disney. You'll see that a mega activist investor group ValueAct has gotten into bed with Disney so we can continue to have identity politics shoved down kids throats.
I have been looking forward to this review! I can’t believe they are so creatively bankrupt that nothing about this show is original. Or faithful to the source material. We are going to copy other stories and call it Echo! 😂 great review thanks for helping us stay in the loop without actively having to watch this slop
So sporting of the guy who slammed her into the desk to wait for her to sign something (that most likely he wouldn’t know what it meant) & then get up again to attack him. You know rather than kicking the shit out of her like a person would in a fight like that. 🤣
Eventually, once they depopulate us down to their goal of 500 million total humans on Earth, there will always be an equal number of every human breed through sacrifice of the overstock, and replace the weak with the necessary amount of beaker borns to maintain perfect equilibrium, and equality of equity, and intersectional diversitivsm, and Intentical proto-binarium Mk.1 Fist-0-69p0
Echo Reviews are out for the latest Disney Marvel show on Disney+. Well, the social media ones are across Twitter. Personally I don't think Echo will listen to criticism. For some reason Disney Marvel doesn't trust the critics to write full reviews and are limiting them to 240 characters, really fills me with confidence :) Did Disney think the critics would be too busy virtue'ing all over the movie for 240 characters to leave anything left to criticise the plot? If they did, they'd be right. We hear lots about 1 leg, being def, Americans, but very little conversation about the plot. Well, except to say that its a "slow burn" and "bad pacing". But what do you think about Echo from what you've seen? Will you be watching Echo on Disney+? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)
Warwick Davis as Puck genius
Echo can't listen to criticism, because she's deaf, you bigot.
So the fun fact the tribe they used the chatow are basically the pick me of native Americans tribes
I am interested to hear which series is worse:Echo or Robyn Hood?
@@jrwilliams4029 tough call. On the one hand, he won’t have to hear echo’s protagonist speak, but on the other, Robyn hood’s main character engaged in more “action” than echo could believably choreograph for their actual action show. Just ask the cookie jar
In my opinion, real badass characters don’t need to keep telling themselves they are.
Exactly what happened to show don’t tell
It's like Tywin said. "Any man who must say I am the king, is no true king"
Agreed.
"Time to be powerful." -CW Batwoman
Neither do real fatass characters, but that never stops Lizzo.
I’m an actual Choctaw and I consider this movie to represent me well as I also can’t fight or act!
Under rated comment.
"When you see how Echo loses her leg, your mind will be blown by how insanely stupid the writers are."
My mind won't be blown by it, I did see how Nick Fury lost his eye.
So did he. Note the reference to physics and going back to school. Fury losing his eye was stupid and a desecration, but it at least made sense. Powerful space cat scratches you? Yep, that would be a permanent scar. This is apparently cartoon physics bad.
If Echo's leg had been scratched off by a housecat, they could have used cat based marketing, like in Ms Marvel.
Cut off by a shard of windscreen glass 😂😂.
Even though glass in windscreens breaks into small cubes for safety reasons...
When he made that comment, my first thought was to Nick Fury in Captain Marvel and how he lost his eye
well good news bozo, there is a legitimate reason why she lost them.
Maya was so memorable on Hawkeye I completely forgot she existed.
When the one legged lady is thrown into a desk and signs 'You again?' is the person she's fighting fluent in ASL? Do deaf people 'talk to themselves out loud' by wiggling their fingers?
I think it was rather tone-deaf.
It left me speechless and unable to stand.
Creatively it doesn't have a leg to stand on.
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^that was the sound of a drum and cymbal but as heard by Echo
Its deaf‐inetly going to be a stand alone feature
Ba doom, tiss! 👍
Need a show with a deaf and blind hero. They can broadcast a silent, blank screen for an authentic experiance
To be fair, watching them try to communicate could be hilarious
The Boys already did that with the blind super who homelander made deaf
It would be a huge gamble
So Moon Knight 2.0?
As long as it is directed by a woman of color and starring a deaf and blind actress of color.
"that means if I'm a badass anyone can be a badass." Do you not remember Syndrome's line? 'If everyone is Super than no one is.'
One of the most badass characters in Captain America: The Winter Soldier is the control-room tech who, even with a gun to his head, refused to follow HYDRA's orders.
Ten-thousand times more badass than the shrimpy little stronk unrepentant wammans who perform physically-impossible stunts with the help of fifteen cuts.
@youwillbehappyorelse6685
“Sorry… Captains orders”
Yep, badass.
I worked with a hearing impaired person and to be frank it was very challenging. Most of the time I was having to work twice as hard to make up for her disability to do her job. That being said she was a very pleasant person and I was more than happy to help her out. But if I went up to her on day one and she informed me she was hearing impaired and I said "Oh!! we should celebrate the fact that you can't hear as good as the rest of us!! We should celebrate your deafness!!" She would of thought I was a hateful monster.
Instead, she knows you are a kind and respectful person.
I used to teach English overseas and a woman came to me that was deaf and she wanted me to reach her not only to read and write (she actually was decent at it from school but hadn't kept up since graduating) but also wanted to learn to lip read was even practicing verbal communication.
She was a very happy person and just accepted her disability and wanted to work to get around it. She knew it was holding her back but wasn't letting it stop her from doing more.
We worked for many months before I moved away but I still follow her Facebook and she became a professional photographer . She is good and is living a good life because she doesn't give up.
Point is, they don't need or want you to pander to them. They want to get better and overcome their weaknesses just as we should try with our own.
Would have thought. It is never would of.
I work with a man who's hearing deteriorated due to a head injury as a child. He uses hearing aids and lip reading. He told me that his hearing aids are good but not perfect so if he can hear and see it's much better. He had a terrible time during covid as he couldn't lip read through masks. Whenever we worked together we'd ditch the masks so we could communicate better.
Because that would be completely nonsensical. Why would we celebrate something that makes life more challenging? It’s pretend virtue. It’s the same thing when we tell a 100+ pound overweight woman she is hot. We are just lying to them. No one celebrates deafness because it’s not something to celebrate.
Having taken basic sign language courses in college as an additional skill to add to the classes that I was already taking for my major. And having deaf /hearing impaired friends gave me some understanding of some, but not all issues that the deaf hearing impaired Community faces on a daily basis. I was lucky enough to use some of the skills I learned later on during my working career as a security officer. I'm now retired and with that being said.. what I watched of this left me both sad and angry because of all the wasted potential. They spent so much time checking the boxes they didn't even write a coherent story that would draw people in. This wasn't just tone deaf, it was badly executed, stupid, and a waste of artistic talent, both in front of and behind the camera
Couldn't agree more, well said.
Frankly I find myself offended for other people's sake that a series about a deaf girl wasn't directed or produced by deaf people. Truly more HEARING PRIVILEGE!
They could always claim the director was blind.
It's so egregious!
Its okay. Attacking the fans is falling on deaf ears.
Is there a Deaf Girl in this series?
At least they found a deaf amputee to play their deaf amputee. I’m sure all the deaf amputees are excited to see their disability paraded in a fictional manner on tv so they too know they can be superheroes.
Marvel went from "must see day one" type of entertainment, to "good god this embarrassing" sludge.
I think I went to more then one midnight premiere. How embarrassing. Oh well it was fun at the time.
Remember when we had Agents of Shield? A vastly superior Marvel show to anything we have now. And it was cheesy as hell.
Oh, the better days.
I still rewatch that series from time to time... granted it got into jump the shark territory in the last couple of seasons but early on it was tremendous.
Superhero comics being kind of cheesy is why I liked them. The combination of things that are silly with complete earnestness struck me as charming.
@@BiggieTrismegistus Agreed. I think what we consider cheesy, is just something produced during a more optimistic time.
Shows just how far we've strayed.
I don't give a shit about "representation", but AoS nailed it. Several female leads, multiple backgrounds, and they never crammed it down your throat. They show without telling how badass they are. They don't neuter the guys, everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. Everyone relies on everyone else. Everything was in service to the story. The characters occasionally fuck up and they all grow. Aside from a cringy line or two, for that many seasons, they did it so well.
@@Metalgarn I love the first seasons. Problem was that I put the show on hiatus, because the last seasons were only available on Disney+ here in Germany and I will do hell and pay for that. At some point I got D+ through shared watching, started with the first season I had not watched yet and... I had no F'ing clue what was going on. Apparently what happened between the last season and this one happened in a crossover between several other shows, which I had not watched and had no interest to do so. Which is, if you ask me, completely bollocks.
Imagine being an actor who can seamlessly convey pain, anger and ambition through non-verbal communication. You'd almost think they get paid daily for it.
I'd have to imagine being Kurt Russell in "Soldier".
Which, honestly, not enough people have watched.
Leo DiCaprio won an Oscar for that. In the Revenant, most of his scenes were solo where he conveyed pain and anger through grunts and non-verbal communication after being attacked by a bear and left for dead by his comrades
Cole Sprouse carries the entirety of "Lisa Frankenstein" and only actually speaks words for less than a minute.
(Although he honestly does play a great reanimated corpse and is in fact remarkably expressive, I'm definitely saying the bar is set so low that it's in hell.)
There is an episode of "House M.D." in which a deaf person could be cured, but wanted to remain deaf... for cultural purposes. Imagine what Gregory had to say about it. Same thing with dwarfism BTW... (in another episode)
Actually, many people do refuse the new internal device, because it's very disorienting to them, they get terrible headaches and side effects, and therefore it's far from a 1oo% success rate, for a rather delicate and heavy surgery.
So maybe , if you don't know the topic and its intricacies, don't issue blanket statements just because you watched an episode of a tv show.
Not even speaking of mostly loosing your community You've been living in sometimes your whole life.
So no, not such an easy decision as it may seem at first glance
@@ChristmasLorewhy would someone lose their community for accepting treatment?
Changing someone's comment so you can pontificate isn't helping. Anyone that might not want treatment because of the potential side effects or complications are valid reasons to hesitate or turn down treatment. But they weren't talking about that, nor were they making blanket statements, beyond identifying with a medical condition to the point of closing yourself off to treatment is a limiting belief. We can all see it with people that resist blood transfusions on religious grounds, and we'd all be critical there but the same principle is in play here too.
Funny enough, those points are mentioned in the series. @@ChristmasLore
@@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher - it's completely different situations. For one, the blood transfusions you're talking about are often life saving. And the refusal based on religious beliefs.
You obviously have zero knowledge of the different deaf communities, so I won't even try.
And btw, I've seen all seasons of House MD, and I happen to remember that episode.
None of these issues were deeply explained/explored.
Ps: I often have to modify my comments because English isn't my first language and I notice a mistake, or two, or three
@@ChristmasLore it's a pity you feel you have to make that assumption, because it's been something that has impacted people close to me.
My aunt and my cousin wouldn't talk for years until recently because my aunt, who was deaf since her teens had an implant and can hear again but her daughter had very much the belief this was a betrayal of her community (she herself was not deaf) and it caused a significant rift in that wing of the family. My aunt had never heard her husband's or children's voices, and her daughter could not be moved from the idea that her mother was abandoning or diminishing a community by wanting to hear them. It was selling out in my cousin's mind.
My comparison was never based upon the outcomes being the same, but the self imposed belief underlying it isn't universal- if someone wants to have that belief, go for it, but it's unreasonable to think it applies wholesale to a population of individuals that are only grouped because of a condition.
Echo can actually read lips in the comics, so she normally didn't need to use ASL to talk to people. But reading lips doesn't score those representation points for the MCU🤷🏾♂️
Apparently they changed her powers too. You know, to make it more “DIVERSE”. Not that I care though I stopped giving Disney my $ years ago. And their current $hit isn’t even worth sailing the seven seas…
@@richhutchinson2934 Heard about that. Something about " talking to her ancestors", right?
@@richhutchinson2934 I'm from Brazil, so I can attest to that
Except when the writers and artists forget she's deaf. I highly doubt she'd be able to read Spider-Man's lips.
@@BiggieTrismegistus There's always a artist who forgets something about the character they're writing for. Hard to find a character that hasn't suffered from that
They’re blind to what the audience wants and our criticisms fall on deaf ears. It may get a leg up with certain viewers, but the show will never go the distance during its run.
I love to watch movies and shows with blind people. They never complain about the quality for some reason.
Are you trying to say this show doesnt have a leg to stand on?
😂😂😂you are funny!
@@stananders2333 😂
You know it’s going to be in the 90% from the critics on Rotten Tomatoes!
Critics pay day is coming up.
I guarantee it will be above 90%
It’s 64% right now lol
It's at 72% and 76% audience. The critics gave a few rotten scores. Secret Invasion, Eternals and Ant man 3, the critics like everything narrative is nonsense.
@@ad-sd-vids5332 72% currently
How hilarious would it be if they had an episode with absolutely no sound and also no subtitles cuz that’s colonialism over deaf ppl 😂
When people talk about her heritage and then realise they changed her lore tribe because they thought they were boring. So genuin much proper representation.
She signs at people during fights? That is hilarious and horrible
😂Dude you made me choke on my food...😮@@Anoneemus_Noenayme
AND she reads lips and speaks... so unless she's fighting ANOTHER deaf person, she's probably signing to someone who can't UNDERSTAND her signs.
maybe that's how she wins, shes there confusing her enemies@@Mereologist
What if the other person as the majority of the world do not even use or know ASL.
@@DelDreddheck, my cousin is deaf and doesn't know ASL (AMERICAN sign language). It's irrelevant for the vast majority of the world.
Where are all the ACTIVISTS? They dogpiled a young child & doxed him for wearing a Native headdress that was actually a native. But here the got the ceremonial drumming, and the outfit.. I’m just waiting to hear the thunderclaps and clouds spirits of horses raging through the skies
Aren’t these all natives? It’s my understanding the Choctaw nation stepped in to guide the cultural aspects.
They credited Choctaw Nation for their direct input and no stereotypical scenes like the Peace Pipe from ‘Peter Pan’.
The problem with the Chocktow lore is that they said that the original lore was boring and lame so they changed it.
You mean, "updated it for modern sensibilities".
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me if "Maya Lopez" is an authentically Choctaw name. Personally I have my doubts.
@@BiggieTrismegistus I'm betting she's got as much Native American blood as Elizabeth Warren.
Original character was not even Chocktow in any case was she, they chose a more flamboyant looking tribe for this.
@@BiggieTrismegistus To my knowledge it's not... It's spanish.
Lon Chaney, Sr. was reared by deaf parents. This trained him not merely in sign language, but in ACTING, in silently communicating ideas, emotions, intent, and character soley through expression of body and face. (That's leaving aside his justly earned man-of-a-thousand-faces reputation.)
I noticed in a fight scene she signs "you again" and I was confused, why did she do that? Was it for the henchman, was he deaf too? Or was it for the audience?
Daredevil can't see her signing, and Echo can't hear him talking. Brilliant stuff.
@Arassar
If it were comics accurate (it probably won't be), Daredevil COULD actually see her signing. He has a radar-like hearing ability that allows him to "see" sound waves. He'd hear the movement of the air on her hands, or the sounds from other stuff bouncing off her, and "see" the signs. Just like in the Daredevil movie with Ben Affleck, where he can "see" his female love interest because it started to rain, and he could "see" each raindrop hitting her, and created a sound-image of her.
Obviously, it's not actually "seeing", but movies are a visual medium, and that's how it was represented to us. He simply hears the sound waves and can discern similar information about his surroundings that we can with our sight.
Are you kidding me? A deaf person using ASL... IN A TV SHOW??? I didn't see that coming. Next you'll be telling me that a blind person was using a cane.
The Shape Of Water directed by Guillermo del Toro already gave us a deaf female protagonist that uses sign language.
@@davidfrancisco3502 Blind Fury gave us a blind protagonist that used a ...'cane'.
In CSI, Grissom's mother was deaf and they had entire episodes with deaf actors using ASL. Star Trek TNG had an episode where an alien negotiator named Reva's entire race was deaf and he used ASL as well as charades to communicate. Virtue signaling about the novelty of something that has been in TV and movies forever is so transparently stupid. Notice nobody is saying that the show is good. But it's diverse. And... representation... and inclusion... And didn't they change Echo's tribal affiliation for this show? She was Cheyenne in the comics, but now she's Choctaw? What about Cheyenne representation. Can't wait for Lizzo to play Queenpin.
Loved that one, nice mix of action and humour.
The blind swordsman.
Kung fu the legend.
What I learned from this is that I want them to put toys back in cereal boxes.
After watching all 5 episodes last night, I still have no idea what the actual plot was. I think that it was supposed to be something like a coming of age story about how Maya protects her family through the mystical powers of her ancestors. But that idea is shot down by the fact (which is mentioned multiple times) that Maya is the one who put her family in the danger that awakened the powers of her ancestors.
"This is so terrible it needs to be cancelled."
"We don't have any shows due to the writer's strike..."
"My standards have now changed."
🤣
When an identity or innate characteristic is the highlight if your show or movie - not characters, arcs, story, music, action etc. - you need to ask whether its worthy of being made.
Correct, but the opposite of that is modern D.I.E./ESG - If you DON'T highlight those things and ONLY superficial things, then it shouldn't be made.
Modern audiences that don't exist no longer care about "good stories, good writing, good characters", they only want your pronouns, skin color, what's in your pants and who you rub it up against.
At that point, you’re just using people with certain traits as zoo animals. “Come one, come all! Gawk at these weirdos, existing! How strange they look!”
Welcome to Hollywood, mate.
Wait... is Echo Deaf? And an AMPUTEE?!? AND A WOMAN?!?!?!? How does she do anything with that many disabilities???? Stunning and Brave!!!
Edit: For those arguing Echo is indigenous in the replies, Choctaw are not native to New York you bigots. xD
And indigenous
..... like only native Americans are indigenous to any place
Don’t forget it’s also a Disney+ series. Truly the most disabled show ever.
Was she not a comic character? You act like they pulled this out of nowhere for their agenda
@@oXRaptorzXowell when all you market is how disabled and diverse the main character is and not the show, I mean, kinda
Watch Hawkeye or read a comic
"Watch out for that bear trap!
..."Oh, oh dear. I don't think she heard me."
I'm no speech pathologist but wouldn't it make more sense if echo could speak? I think 'mute' is the disability requiring the patient to use ASL, not 'deafness'... One would use ASL to Speak TO someone who is deaf, not the reverse...
Well if she was born deaf she would have no idea how to talk since she never be able to hear any words
Telling MCU fans their product sucks is akin to telling cultists that Jim Jones poisoned their kool aid.
If only these MCU sycophants would go the same way as Jim's cultists did.
Flavor-Aid. Kool-Aid was too extravagant. Jones kilt his followers with a cheap knock off affordable brand. Thats what made him so evil.
The sad part is most (if not all) of the people reading your comment will totally NOT get your Jim Jones Kool-aid reference. Heck, most people scratch their heads when you mention a get out of jail free card...😂😂😂
If marvel *customers* (not fans) want the product then cool. But the financial evidence is that marvel customers do not want the product.
Marvel has probably destroyed their market at this point and driven away over 2/3 of their customers. But if there *is* a path to recover, it's lower budgets, better writing and plotting, and returning to the 1980 to 2000 comic books canon.
The only difference is the quality of the kool-aid is still good.
Wait a sec... she uses sign language... and Daredevil is *blind...* WTF thought this was a clever idea ?
Echo: Wiggles fingers.
Daredevil: I can't hear you.
It actually sounds like an amazingly funny parody.
Hmm. She started out as a supporting character in _Daredevil_ but I last read those issues like 15 years ago so I don't remember how they communicated.
Idk the people who made the comics daredevil and echo
"Celebrating Deafness"
I guarantee if you go up to Deaf people and say if they enjoy not being able to hear, 98% of them will respond with,
"Huh?"
As someone who is increasingly hearing-impaired, if someone tells me they're celebrating my inability to hear my own children's voices? I tell them I'm gonna celebrate the concussion they're fixin' to get.
I see said the blind man to the deaf amputee.
@@YouWillBeHappyOrElse😂😂😂
we are in the era of celebrating diabetes too, soooo, ya. welcome to current year
@@psychosociety7910 Body positivity models celebrating people's inability to just put down the fucking cheeseburger.
"If I can be a badass, anyone can be a badass". Reminds me of the "when everyone is super, no one will be" line from The Incredibles.
Somebody needs to remind them there already was a movie about disabled people overcoming their disabilities. Darth Vader was an amputee. And yet he STILL became a Sith Lord!! He didn't let his disabilities stop him from achieving his goals. Sorry, Echo. 😞
Yes, but he was evil. Why is he evil? Maybe because he used technology to fix his disabilities according people who make Echo. Should have just used the force and no prosthetics. In fact wouldn't this character be more "in character" not to rely on artificial leg help?
What about the Six Million Dollar Man and Bionic Woman? The Six Million Dollar Man had his right arm, both legs and left eye replaced with bionic parts. The Bionic Woman had her right arm, both legs and right ear replaced with bionic parts
darth vader let a light saber hurt him....what a loser
I don’t believe any of the actors that played his character were amputees in real life. Alaqua Cox on the other hand is an amputee and deaf outside of acting.
@@k.b.8912 Yep, stunning and brave. We get it. Bye, now. 🙄
The “most important part of the story” should be the story, period. Not the nationality or ethnicity of the character….although, she’s also deaf. Did you know she was deaf? I heard she was deaf but I couldn’t be certain until everyone said she was deaf.
Story? Ew. You obviously don’t have what it takes to be a Disney writer.
@@NOREMAC007 I also forgot that she was deaf
15:16 - "celebrating deafness"... That's like saying "celebrating cancer". These weirdos are in such a rush to virtue signal they can't even figure out why they shouldn't say something.
Sadly they didn't invent that, that's just how social justice itself talks about those things. You need to be proud of and celebrate every single box you tick... unless you're straight, white, male, able bodied, skinny, or intelligent. Basically if it's something that can win you oppression points then it's a good thing that you need to force other people to think you're amazing for being/having.
Remember when the fat acceptance movement mutated into fat pride? When feminism changed from demanding equality to pushing for female supremacy? When racial equality became ... you get the picture. Celebrate doesn't mean what it used it, just like every other word they've desecrated and repurposed for their evil ends.
It's actually a thing it seems, amongst some communities with things like deafness - there was a deaf woman on an Australian panel show that I saw who openly said that if she was going to have a child and had the choice to ensure that the child would be deaf (ie through genetic counselling and intervention etc), that that's what she would choose. I could barely believe what I was hearng or that this is a reasonable thing to publicly state, or that people would apparently push for such things to be one day legal, but yeh. Edit: for what it's worth though, I overall liked the show despite its flaws hah
This show was made for deaf people. Everyone told them about it. But they didn't hear so no one showed up.
Reminds me of the giant arrow pointing to the center for the blind in my city. Worst part is the arrow is up on a pole! Poor buggers can't even feel where they are at with their canes.
Oh wait is this so they can have a deaf person vs blind person matchup and see who wins?
Weird flex.
No way the white guy wins in a marvel show.
I live in the Choctaw capitol and the tribe was so excited to be represented. They filmed actual pow wow with our actual Choctaws. How sad that they couldn’t have written it better.
I liked the bit in Austin Powers that had Fat Bastard in it because he was Scottish and he had bagpipes and a kilt on so that really represented his Scottish heritage
I thought Myers' portrayal of his drunken Scottish father in 'So I Married An Axe Murderer' was a better representation. 😂
@@NefariousKoel lol the irony of what was considered taking the piss with stereotypes 30 years ago is now woke representation
@@NefariousKoel Yep, a fantastically accurate representation--right down to the paranoid rants about Colonel Sanders!
“This is being the darkest one yet”
Fiege, you Easter island headed dummy, you’ve already done that, and way *way* better.
It’s called The Punisher, starring Jon Lemmetellyewsummin Bernthal. And it was f*cking awesome.
It was awesome in the Daredevil series, sure... but the actual Punisher series sucked ass
"Forget entertainment, I just want to watch Choctaws!" Said no one ever. Even choctaws
“Yes, let’s treat dear people and members of a certain ethnic culture as zoo animals! So empowering!”
I would rather watch the 3 gentlemen beating the drum and sing/chant for hours than watching one minute of this TV-show.
At least they are not tone deaf and they represent real culture.
Ironic that a show giving deaf representation is bombarding viewers with fight scenes like that with deafening danceclub music, and stuntmen being really noisy when they're hit.
I'm from Oklahoma. The vast majority of Choctaw don't have Hispanic surnames. Most are Irish or Scottish. It's the central Indians (like Comanche) or South American that have Hispanic names because of the Hispanic colonies. Choctaw are from the East Coast - it's all European colonies.
It's not unlike calling everyone from Europe "white" and then assuming they all wear lederhosen and speak English.
I figured a Choctaw named "Maya Lopez" is like a Mayan named "Indian Johnson".
And the Southwest.
(Shhhhh, it's another box to tick for them)
and the are always crying (Trail of Tears), and never could beat the Iroquois League or the Lakota Comanche Apache locals after Andrew Jackson kicked em out of the US.
It is a sad state of affairs when the best thing about a Disney product is watching hiw hard the shills defend it
It's pretty low scored compared to peak MCU stuff. No one thinks this is great.
It’s clear they were attempting to make an MCU version of Andor. A dark, slow burn about a little known side character from a primitive culture oppressed by colonizers with more violence and less superpowers than expected for the genre. The issue is they did a terrible job chopping it up and editing the footage shot.
The violence is against the audience!
"Do you want to see her do her angry flamingo impression?"
"Yeh, ok."
"You should have fun and drink more. Last night was such a laugh, I ended up completely legless!"
goes on for a while... darn good impression.
It's not inclusive for British Deaf People, as she's signing in ASL not BSL, most deaf Brits won't be able to understand her.
This somehow murders trans people!!!!
Don't worry, all the ASL is subtitled. Even when the person is speaking out loud while they sign, it's still subtitled.
How is a Deaf girl supposed to communicate with a Blind guy 😅 It's not like he can see her signing 😂
wow you already saw the movie?
They communicate through the power of virtue.
"Shhh girl, shut your lips, do the Helen Keller and talk with your hips" .. 3 oh 3 were prophets
I'm imagining a Helen Keller moment. Or that time the Charlie's angels did that Morse code tapping.
Well Dispy, it's not about profit anymore. Blackrock got them covered. It's all about social engineering now
Exactly. You don’t need profit if the shareholders don’t care about their dividends or share price.
Not even Blackrock can survive if their agenda tanks all the industries they are giving loans. Eventually their own money will run out as well.
Blackrock is selling off assets because of the money they're losing.
X-Ray girl just proved that women actually can be funny. Representation!
My wife is deaf and she broke down laughing when she heard about this show. Then we watched the trailer, and she laughed even harder.
We won't be watching it...
I lost most respect for the actors playing Fisk and Daredevil for even agreeing to do this garbage without any of the writers or show runners from Netflix, lame cowards.
Agree !! They are destroying their reputation accepting these crappy roles !!
At this point, you cant believe anything Marvel says. They also said Moon Kight, Marvels version of a crazy Batman, would be visceral and violent. Meanwhile the the most mature thing they showed us was him beating on someone off screen. This franchise is ass.
Disney didn't expect this failure, but there were signs
The language of failure is often a hands on experience
The fact that this show isn’t a failure though
Me: “What’s the show about?”
Them: “A female with multiple physical disabilities who is an elite hand to hand melee fighter!”
Me: “ffs”
Them: “it’s all done in sign language”
Me: “please stop speaking”
Them: "calls every one a bigot in sign language"
Flashback to The Quiet Man.
Them: I also have a disability, we are vegan
Me: so, IDGAF
I'm guessing all those deaf people getting implants should be ashamed of not embracing their disabilities, especially those who cry of joy on youtube afte r hearing for the first time.
Lmfao ... I am subscribed now. Great video my guy!
I’ve never clicked on a video faster- thank you Disparu! 😂
Who could have seen that coming. Even DAREDEVIL could!
Remember when superhero movies were light escapism and not dark like the souls of the writers?
I DEAFinitely dont understand why this show needs to exist, just seems like another tone DEAF marvel show they shit out, and is being deaf and having one leg her only super power ?
Echos leg turns into a piece pipe
The most violent marvel show? I am honestly surprised that Disney will call “native Americans” violent. Stereotype much?😅 That is their logic.
BRUHHH They didn't even saw that it seems 😂😂😂
Does she scalp her enemies?
Give her some fire water.
You think it's any different from blacks and Mexicans in the MCU?
@Darth_Lex some hairspray
"Tonalities." "Dark." "Mature." Kevin Feige is a walking random word generator!
Think I’d have more enjoyment finding my 90s Console
Dusting off the Cartridge, and playing *ECCO THE DOLPHIN*🐬
😂 loved that game but never completed it
That's embarrassing. Disney "Trot out the drum circle to promote the show!". What a stinky turd. So virtue pandering in the most insulting way. I'm not going to watch it.
What's this bizarre thing about referring to the protagonist's people as "Americans.
As though nobody else who is born or lives in America is actually "American!"
It's really funny how people obsessed with identity can't get basic facts about nationality right.
Disney does not care about the public
No institutional western system does, every move they make is to destroy and collapse any hu-whyte country.
When I brought my Grade Cards home as a kid, and it was littered with all F's, I told my mother 'But mother, this is Badass. It's badass."
That fixed everything.
Everyone needs to NOT hate-watch this show so the viewer numbers are in the single digits where it belongs.
Why should it be in single digits?
@@aaronmiles2802to tell Disney we value actual entertainment. Vote with your money and time
@@aaronmiles2802 Are you serious??? Do you know a single person who actually WANTS to watch this crap?
@@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro What’s not entertaining about Echo?
Just leave the views to the tubers so they can give us the review and give them money.
Disparu 224k subs! Way to go..remember you 2022 like 25k sub range..
This Acid English humor… loved it !! 😂😂😂😂😂
If I didn't already know she's native american due to all the wokeness telling me she's a native american...I wouldn't even know she's native american! I don't watch movies and shows to feel empathetic. I watch stuff as an escape from the nonsense of the world, but instead we're getting shows that are doubling down on all of the nonsense we're trying to escape from....
The puns will never stop. AZ's review is going to be called "I Have Reservations About Echo."
how
The Kdrama "Twinkling Watermelon" was an AMAZING show about FAMILY. The family happened to be deaf parents, 1 deaf son and 1 hearing son! It incorporated music, time travel, and deaf characters, without anything seeming preachy! It SHOWED how she was treated and looked down on in their society in a way that made you angry and feel for the character. But she stood up for herself as much as she could and it was brilliantly done! High recommend.
Kdramas do so much better than Hollywood in "representation" and do so, so much more respectfully.
Look into the story of Lon Chaney, Sr. He was born to two deaf parents, which made him uniquely familiar with non-verbal communication through expression and posture. He built the entire art form of film makeup, and his own acting career, upon that knowledge.
@@TheOriginal_Unaleska exactly! And I don’t need to see myself “as a white person” represented in Asian entertainment. I saw a “hot take” asking “do KDramas need more diversity?!” And I’m like ABSOLUTLEY NOT PLS STOP!!!!
I think Vivziepop's work on the scene between Fizzarolli and one of his fans (who surprisingly based on a real person) had true genuine emotion, plus the hand signs were accurate to the translations
Funnily enough, turns out the "egregious" question was asked by Grace Randolph...Well, well, well, well well.
I'll never understand how being "represented" by a corporate-sponsored, super-powered cartoon is a good thing.
Because the PR departments say so.
It allows all kinds of people to see people like themselves in popular media
@@thebrondle9049 People like themselves? You mean teenage cartoon fantasies with superpowers?
Basically you've got people who exist, but are ultimately empty husks. They lack empathy for anyone but themselves, and have limited their identity to being certain traits like their gender identity, sexual orientation, ethnicity, and disability. So they can only connect to a character that has one of their own identifiable traits.
Listen to them when they talk about why they like something, or better yet, why they say you hate it. Rey is boring and badly written character, a mary sue who just gets powers and abiltiites that allow her to beat everything in her path because... So they go "You just hate Rey cause she is a woman!" which means that is very high probability that is the only reason they like Rey. She is woman in popular thing.
if you listen to normal people "With her son being sick, she braves through many trials even though she is not fearless and has a lack of power. Yet her desire to see her family is safe before the start of the farming year. The backgrounds are just gorgeous. And the acting is great all around. Its a great tale of overcoming adversity and working even with one's limitations, even if it does get oddly magically wrapped up in the end. But hey, get to at least see some of that sparkle. And no big lipped alligator moments. "
vs
"Its good movie cause woman goes feral and beats wannabe school shooter with laser sword."
@@zaphodbbroxthis
Thank You Disparo for youir videos and commentaries.
As an Englishman of the 21st century I DO NOT CARE WHAT MY ANCESTORS DID 3 HUNDRED YEARS AGO. I am not responsible nor have any guilt about their actions. I am English and I do not care nor have any say in how the americans sort their multicultural shtt out. I DO WANT GOOD ENTERTAINMENT FROM STUDIOS. Sadly Disney have lost any respect or good will they had with their modern EAT OUR MESSAGE programs and films. fcck "the message" and anyone that supports it.
While I'm not a fan of nor part of the multicult, I do apologize that our mess has spilled over onto your lawn while we try to sort it. Hopefully it won't leave a permanent mark.
@@YouWillBeHappyOrElse Why Thank you, old chap! your apology is accepted and may I offer you a cup of tea english/not boston. :)
The Revolution had us meet as enemies....but this show will make us brothers!
@@PelemusMcSoy Ey Bruv! Peace innit!
The fact that there were George Floyd protests in the UK is still absolutely hilarious to me
The fact that a 4 inch shard of glass is what cut her leg off 💀 I can’t 💀💀💀
She’s so badass, a glorified paper cut reduced her to a human pogo stick! So empowered!
Where was the PTSD press footage for Tony and Bucky? This is stupid. I only care if she’s handicap-able if it’s a great show or character and it’s not.
At last! A deaf native American amputee superhero! Who says Disney/Marvel never listen to the public
Facts I've been begging for that 😂
Damn you Disparu. Now I want to see a Warwick Davis vs Alan Ritchson fight.
if it aired on Disney, you know Warwick would kick Richtson's @ss
It continues to horrifying and astound me how much money Disney is putting into this. Genuinely, where is that money going? How have the stock holders not gone into revolt?
Fink is the stockholder, and he hates the west and Europe, even though we were the ones who dragged his ancestors OUT of camps, at MASSIVE cost to our own societies.
They have. Nelson Peltz is trying to force himself into the board, for the second time.
Have you still not realized that the "stock holders" support and promote this nonsense
Look up ValueAct and Disney. You'll see that a mega activist investor group ValueAct has gotten into bed with Disney so we can continue to have identity politics shoved down kids throats.
A very good question. A very good one. Where indeed?
I have been looking forward to this review! I can’t believe they are so creatively bankrupt that nothing about this show is original. Or faithful to the source material. We are going to copy other stories and call it Echo! 😂 great review thanks for helping us stay in the loop without actively having to watch this slop
A year ago I jokingly mentioned that representation wise we’d soon be down to a poc woman with one leg. Guess I’m Rasputin reincarnated…
the deaf community will definitely not hear about it ... that cracked me up! great work my friend.
✋How does Disney expect to earn heap big wumpum from this, I will require much firewater over many a full moon to forget this.
Hey, are you an echo writer? What are you doing here?
@@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro I have taste, so no
Ruby Rose already was the first mute female action star in John Wick 2. And she was realistically portrayed and easily defeated.
Realistic action, great plot, great acting, character building =0% v representation, messaging =100%
So sporting of the guy who slammed her into the desk to wait for her to sign something (that most likely he wouldn’t know what it meant) & then get up again to attack him. You know rather than kicking the shit out of her like a person would in a fight like that. 🤣
Representation vs the sake of Representation never works but as a society we keep doing this and keep failing
Eventually, once they depopulate us down to their goal of 500 million total humans on Earth, there will always be an equal number of every human breed through sacrifice of the overstock, and replace the weak with the necessary amount of beaker borns to maintain perfect equilibrium, and equality of equity, and intersectional diversitivsm, and Intentical proto-binarium Mk.1 Fist-0-69p0