This $3000 RED Cinema Camera Still ROCKS!
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- Review and test of the Red Digital Cinema Scarlet-X camera. See how this 10+ year old budget cinema camera compares a modern BMPCC 6K Pro!
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0:00 Introduction
0:43 Camera Overview
1:10 RED Scarlet Brain and Modules
4:48 Camera Cost
5:17 Camera Menus and Control
6:30 Scarlet-X VS BMPCC 6K Pro
8:16 RAW Video and Color Quality
10:08 Downsides to the Scarlet-X
11:11 Conclusion
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Old Cinema camera reviews are the besttttt!!!
Thanks George!
Nice to see someone pushing an older camera instead of the latest gear on UA-cam that we all "must have." Fight the Gear Acquisition Syndrome and go create 💪🏻
Facts
I love my old reliable equipment. I know it, and it works with me. I'll use it till I wear it out. Get the right stuff and stay with it until the upgrade will suit you for 5-10 years.
imagine if everyone thinks like that, then companies wouldn't be innovative
This video actually triggers my "G.A.S.", now I want to buy this Red!
Yeah and that fear filmmakers have of refusing to buy something because the next big thing is around the corner. Otherwise known as "spec hysteria".
I'm more interested in those Meike lenses you have. There is hardly any talk about those lenses and I'd love to hear your thoughts on them!
Same! They look great 👍🏻
Check out CVP, they've done some reviews on them.
just bought and tested 24m today, worth a look forsure, first difference from my rokinon is in the shadows, much more detail captured in the shadows
I just want one as a prop.
Would just pop one in the background for clout
Yeah waste money for no reason. There’s way better options today.
Love their body design and the elaborate emblems are so sick!
@@retrochill6527 wasting money for no reason is how I built my empire
@@impatrickt lol I just realized you’re the guy I unsubbed from a while back. “Empire”. Dude please.
Hi from Spain ! I’ve been using lot of cameras in my work (production company) like GH5, A7s2, Arri Mini and also another RED cameras… But this camera in particular, has something special. The colors, the grain, the tones and something that every person that got one, doesn’t know how to explain it. Still working with Scarlet X, I got one the last month and feels amazing.
Those red volts are still handy to keep the camera powered up while you're hot swapping v-mounts or gold mount bricks. Can also be achieved with a shark fin.
I have a built-in battery for hot-swapping v-mounts on every camera kit I own. Most convenient and easy options in my opinion.
Fantastic video! Thanks Caleb. That sensor is beautiful! Loved the quality of the end results.
OMG Finally someone doing videos about this Jewel of Camera!!! Thank you soo Much bro!!
Always excited to listen what you share :D this is awesome!
My school was still using that through 2020 and it still kicked butt
That was fun to watch! Thanks for making the video Caleb :)
I've been using my RED Scarlet-W Dragon 5K for almost 5 years now and it still kicks ass!
Great review as always. Thanks a million Caleb. Thanks for all the content, not sure you know how many times you've helped out. Have a nice day.
For april fools day, I feel like Caleb is the type to put up a no-nonsense full review and comparison of like a current red camera filming 8k red raw to like a sony mini-dv tape 720p handicam from the early 2000s. I would fully watch that.
Can’t wait. Thanks for finding the awesome deals
Thank you for watching!
I've been using RED since the RED ONE and thru its many iterations. Always either as rental packages, or production-house bought tools. I've never wanted to own one for the simple fact that even if I was given one, the ecosystem cost and pipe-line needs is too high. These cameras are exotic cars. But like exotic cars, they require allot of maintenance and that isn't cheap. The UI is pretty unresponsive, adapting them for various types of shoots is expensive, the data footprint is steep, the pipeline is cumbersome, and to be honest. Other manufactures are better featured, 70-80% the image quality, cheaper, and the ecosystem is budget friendlier. Recently shot a music video on an older RED Scarlet somebody trucked in. Major issues as the owner never kept up with servicing. It's a deal for the cost but its still a 3,000 dollar gamble.
a canon c70 seems a great deal
It's been well documented that the whole camera and the company built around it is a *Scam* .
What servicing needed to be done on the scarlet?
None if you treat it well. The only servicing I can think of is if you use the camera in extremely sandy, dusty or damp environments. Then it would need some professional cleaning, but this true for every camera which has active cooling. @@nicholasboule5134
Amazing video. Exactly what I was looking for.
The usual great content! Kudos!
absolutely love it - great vid i was mesmerized
Great post and thanks for giving this camera some love. The Scarlet MX was my first personal 4K sensor. Had many years with Canon XL-1, Sony Beta (insert two letters here) Pannies etc.
Worked with a RED ONE but mostly post. I love this video since its brings back memories (sold it recently and moved up to a Dragon 6K) and also helping others find options. Hey if people can get work using 16mm and selling it as classic then why not the MX :)
Next camera review suggestion: Sony CineAlta F35. Once $200,000 -- now $3,000 because it's giant and "only" shoots 1080p. But the global shutter 5K CCD sensor creates amazing images.
It is on the list!!!
@@dslrvideoshooter Would Love to See the F23, with Zeiss Digi Primes. Used on Benjamin Button for example.
The price will shoot up. Make sure you buy one before he reviews it
@@EJNakamura I was lucky to grab one about 3 years ago for $3,500 USD (with a monitor/recorder). I've since sold it, but I think Sony only made about ~200 F35s, so they are getting more rare by the day!
@@katlis wow. What made you sell it?
I know he mentions several downsides, but I want to mention more for those actually considering purchasing an older RED.
I will start by mentioning some of the ones he said again.
-Media is a pain and relatively expensive/ hard to source last minute.
-They are LOUD.
-And noise is something you will be fighting even in semi-controlled environments.
On top of that,
-REDs are known for being notoriously unreliable and they have since stopped servicing this era of camera.
-The early X and MX cameras have a very wonky color matrix. I know he likes the image out of camera and that's totally fine, but if you ARE into color grading, you'll notice this as you start to learn more and more.
-And they have really started to show their age from a usability standpoint. They are sluggish and weird to navigate.
If you are interested in buying an older cinema camera (in this price range), I'd look towards older Sony F series cameras like he mentions. Or if you would prefer going for something more modern, the ZCAM F6/S6 and Sony A7SIII/FX6 are great options although you might similarly have to deal with wonky color matrices.
A really interesting video would be looking at some of the older cinema cameras you can get for under $10000 nowadays. The Alexa Plus, Sony F5 (or F55 if you can squeeze it), and Panasonic VariCam LT can all be had for well under $10000. These all would give unparalleled IQ for the money. And cameras like the F55 and Alexa Plus are still rentable unlike older REDs that go for less than $50 a day in LA.
Great suggestions! What do you mean a7iii fx6 would have wonky color wave?
@@mq4oneseventyeight567 It's all relative. The new backlit sensor that Sony has in those cameras is fantastic. The difference between consumer/prosumer cameras and the industry standard cinema cameras is in the details. Color science is a very complex topic and it costs companies millions of dollars in rnd. The higher up the ladder you climb, the more a company tends to shift away from making the general population happy and the more they get to spend time caring about how a camera translates what's hitting the sensor. Gradations in skin tones, overall consistency, etc... There's diminishing returns spending that time on prosumer cameras.
That's why some of those older cinema cameras are still so relevant today. That attention to detail is what makes them have such a pleasing and versatile look.
Any prosumer camera is not going to have the same care for things like their color matrix. Even cameras made by cinema camera manufacturers like RED and Sony. The Komodo is a great example. Not a lot of attention to detail in that camera.
I'll end this by saying the Sony prosumer cameras are great! Especially the FX6. Even though it's the same sensor, being able to turn off NR is huge and it would send me straight towards the FX6. If you are wanting something new to mitigate risk, you can't go wrong with it.
There is no reason for Scarlet X lol. maybe video title is reason
Sony F5 owner here. Amazing camera. Affordable pre-owned. Amazing color. Still supported by Sony. PL mount with 4K upgrade and Netflix approved with 4K upgrade. 👍 I cannot shoot with old REDs due to their (possible) instability in narrative environments but older REDs do make a great image. 👍
@@FTGTapGod except that most of these cameras have RAW capability and debayering happens AFTER the RAW data hits the NLE. So none of that makes any sense whatsoever unless you are implying that for the color matrix of in camera LOG codecs, so it’s not all relative. RAW doesn’t give a damn about what brand of camera you have or how much it cost. It’s not even a video. It’s literally RAW data.
this is so interesting, I am a total noob when it comes to cinema cameras but I really do want to get into it. thank you so much for making these vids and reviewing and talking about cinema gear, it's very educational
1 of the best videos on cinema I've ever seen.
Thanks Caleb. It's a great help
Hmmm, interesting, because I sold mine (Red Scarlet) to buy the big boy Black Blackmagic Ursa when it first hit the market. I liked the Ursa way better. Definitely prefer the Pocket 6K. Less headache with the work flow. The Red system was a nightmare. I hated that camera. Glad to see someone enjoys it. Nice video though. Happy filming...
If you want a very underrated camera to kit out for one of your videos, look at the Blackmagic Micro Cinema. Those Fairchild S16 sensors capture light so differently!
I love these types of videos!
Great presentation, thanks!
Dang I agree, those old red sensors look much closer to film than most new ones IMO. Probably because that was when the industry was mainly using film and needed convincing that digital was a viable replacement. Btw just saw your 6k pro on gear focus haha
I looooove these old cinema camera reviews! It inspired me to look at older cameras and buy a c100mkii :)
Love the video!
I've been thinking about selling my Scarlet recently, since the Ursa mini Pro 12K has become my go-to camera these days, but damn, straight out of camera the Scarlet just looks fantastic.
The images just look a little soft, but still have all the details that you need.
I shot a wedding on the Scarlet and my A7SII a few years ago, so just available natural light, and I tell you no amount of color grading can get them to the same level in some situations. The footage from the Scarlet is some of the most beautiful shots I've ever gotten, and the A7SII just looked like a Home Video. As the sun set the story changes of course 😅
If you are thinking about getting a scarlet yourself, I have a playlist on my channel with some Videos I have shot on it.
Why do we need 12k or for that matter 6k? What is the benefit you see as a filmmaker
We have 2 Scarlets MX - We use them to this day and the quality is amazing - We have received 28 awards for our films with them.
!Great information thanks
THOSE SKIN TONES!!! :D WOWZAZ! Incredible man. Thanks for another amazing video. I might actually try this myself.
Red epic owner since 2013. Still love it more than my a7s3 and r5. I remember why I bought it every time I use it.
The MX sensor is a magical thing, it is so great with skin tone.
You had me at FireWire800 😆 Seriously though, I seriously looked into getting this camera before grabbing a C70. They’re so capable! Being locked into Red branded memory was the deal-breaker for me. - Ryan
Best playlist on this channel - it’s very inspiring and I love the philosophy of « affordable cinema cameras ».
Today the resolution war is utterly ridiculous and at the expense of the rugged, functional and reliable cameras.
I own both the cameras and you are absolutely spot on . I have found the older Blackmagic pocket cinema camera og cut quite well with the Red scarlet x. All newer Blackmagic cameras lack cinematic cadence, color density and are over sharpened in my opinion.
I was trying to figure out what I didn’t like about the pocket 6ks. I shot a bit with the urea mini and the thing was gorgeous footage wise. Crop sensor has downsides but the shots just look so nice. Been wanting to see what the deal is with reds for a while. I find some cameras just have a good feel which can definitely beat the specs or something that is technically better.
i am here watching this video because i own a RED MX Cinema camera, i love so much more then my old BMP 6K
Please, more review like this! And comparison with more modern cameras! Thanks
Great video as always! Are you going to do a video on the Meike FF primes?
This was great, Caleb. Thanks.
If I could I definitely would consider
Interesting enough, I’ve actually used this camera, and compared it to my Pocket 4K. The Red’s sensor is quite nice. Far less noisy at lower apertures than the Pocket 4K. The Pocket 4K really only had it beat at high ISOs
This is my next purchase...I absolutely love this model and the price as well
IPP2 Workflow is pretty easy and gives a great starting point.
the best part of the side handle and redvolt is that you can have that and then hot swap your v-mount or gold mount batteries on the back.
Wow. I barely used my RED Scarlet I bought in 2011. It's amazing it hear it talked about like a Dino. However, it's still the reason why I still love it. Hopefully I will shoot more with it again soon.
I can’t wait for o see your Arri Alexa classic review!!
My little gem 😍 I love my Scarlet MX
thanks for the effort and sharing. i am an appreciative subscriber. (and boy, are your kids bigger!) thumbs up.
Thank you smalltalk! Much appreciated :-)
Dude your videos look great, mostly because of your lighting and colour grading of course. But I feel like you have learnt some tricks to make your videos look good on UA-cam when many of us struggle with the dreaded compression.
Maybe make a video about what you've learnt? Would be great!
MX sensor still holds up today!
Love my Epic-X Dragon for more or less the same reasons, well said.
I can’t believe in not subscribe to your channel. No joke I’ve been watching your videos for years now lol
I just shot my thesis film on a Scarlet X, or maybe it was the MX. It wasn’t too bad to work with considering it was my schools camera. Lots of useful features and I shot my entire project at 5K WS / 24 FPS. The only thing that I wish this camera had was focus peaking. It has a focus mode in the false colors but it’s really bad and I had some shots that were focus pulls so it was very hard to pull off without it. Overall it was a great camera to use.
Scarlet X is the MX sensor. Scarlet X cannot do 5k higher than 12fps, so maybe you had the Scarlet W with dragon sensor.
Using an external monitor with focus peaking is what these cameras were built for.
Just got mine! Thanks for the video! Will there be a camera guide for this camera?
I just bought a BMPCC 6K Pro 😭 haha. Just kidding. The Scarlett wouldn’t work because I want to mount it on a gimble.
Thanks for all your videos Caleb. I spent a lot of time watching you review various pieces of gear to build out my rig.
Always great content !
We just see, MEIKE prime cine lens :D
Tell us tell us in a dedicated videooo 💪🏻
I agree that out the gate, the RED just looks much more ready and filmic. But you can do a few things to make the BMPCC scream too. Nice lenses, filtration and a little softening in resolve with the glow plugin and reducing the mid detail, you can get a VERY sharp yet smooth and soft image. Also I believe RED’s hace OLPF’s which help a lot in that filmic quality soft image. Which you can buy aftermarket OLPF’s from rawlite for the pocket series these days
I'd love to see a video done on a filter stack to make the Black Magic cameras more filmic. In NYC and LA you can rent just about any filter, so you could do such an analysis / review without breaking the bank.
@@robertgruen2088 sure. Personally I like the Schneider radiant soft. I use the radiant soft 3 with my sigma art lenses. The 3 strength is quite strong but with the 6k resolution and tack sharp sigmas, it balances out very nicely to give a pleasantly soft image.
I like the radiant soft because it softens the skin nicely without over blooming the highlights like pro mists do. In other words, you can use a strong diffusion for the skin softening effect without the insanely bloomed highlights that often comes as a side effect. Though these are only available in rectangular sizes. The closest thing in cheaper circular filters I’ve found is tiffen glimmerglass.
Here’s a music video I recently shot with said setup. Nothing spectacular, but a good representation of the look im speaking of.
ua-cam.com/video/X2JewhWKN2g/v-deo.html
@@robertgruen2088 It also helps a ton we had a phenomenal colorist for that video
You have not really talked about the Red learning curve. My son was trained on Red at university and it taught him a lot about lighting. The early Reds could create a great image but they needed good lighting. He has shot with an Arri Alexa, but now as a director with 10 years of experience he allows his DP to pick the suitable tool.
Letting your dp “pick” is called being lazy and not informing yourself. There’s no virtue in that
@@Frontigenics pretty sure a director with 10 years of experience who knows how to collaborate with DPs that probably know their stuff is not lazy.
@@Frontigenics DPs pick the camera. That’s completely normal. Many directors aren’t camera nerds at all.
@@Frontigenics You pick your DP, there’s no laziness there.
i have one and while ive had plenty of cameras by now, i can say with confidence its one of the easiest cameras to use second to blackmagic cameras. UI is simple, touch screen is a plus if you have it. I know how to expose an image properly by now of course, but i can tell you the red is not unforgiving at all. Its probably not gonna be your first camera, so if you have some experience it should be very easy to use.
Disclaimer : this is not a video camera, this is a cinema camera. Meaning that it's not your run of the mill BMPCC6K or other camera. It's not made to be used like you describe, it needs loads of other accessories, spare SSD, batteries, monitors, motors, wireless device, etc... All of that in a proper cinema rig that is worked on by a minimum of 2 to 3 professional technicians at a time.
Everything, even bolts cost a fortune, and maintenance needs professional technicians in the cinema industry or directly through RED.
It's like buying a race car to go do groceries, yes it works, but really you need a proper team to do that.
The big difference with cinema cameras is not just the image performance, it's the way they are used and design in the professional environment of a film set.
Now that this is out of the way.... I've shot with this camera, and the biggest flaws are the noise and overall internal design.
Even at it based ISO it shows quite a lot of noise, I'll recommend exposing it at 500ISO when it's possible.
Then the other issues is just the RED DSCM1 series, it wasn't perfect ; confusing menus, extremely slow black-shading calibration and difficulty on keeping constant temperatures. Which you really need to constantly update with this camera because of all that noise generated, and it takes around 10min of calibrating each time, of just waiting.
So if you have a lot of change of temperature, framerate or shutter speed in your films, it add's up to the difficulty.
You can say this about any camera when it's not rigged out - even a Komodo or fx6 - you can still use it yourself, it's just better to do it with a team, like with every other camera system
Yeah that’s pretty much what he said. And all cameras benefit from an AC and crew.
A cameras form factor influences how it is used in cinema not if it is a cinema camera or not. Given various Blackmagic cameras, including most if not all the modern pocket line, have been used on various Hollywood cinema productions, even some top grossing ones, it's hard to claim that any of them are not cinema cameras. While I would agree that the pocket line does not fall into the typical A cam form factor as easily as something like the RED scarlet might, this doesn't mean people haven't used them as an A camera for certain types of productions. It all comes down to what a given production calls for in order to make the production happen within it's given budget.
Film has grain, and one of the dumbest technical arguments you hear on set is how Arri's noise looks more filmic than Red's. That being said, most people would just want to shoot the cleanest images they can and leave such things to post, but cinematographers are not most people. They all want to leave their mark on their art, so many will turn to using filters to modify the image during capture instead of letting it slide to post, where there is a lot more control and feedback.
Red was THE cutting edge cinema camera company back in the day, and they always expected experienced film cinematographers to use their tools. So you had to light the areas you intended to be black so that they were above the noise floor and then crush them in post. Problem was too many video people got a hold of it and didn't understand the concept of cinematic lighting. Over the years other companies jumped in and a lot of progress has been made. Even though I own an Epic Dragon I might actually turn to a Black Magic camera if I had a shoot that had a lot of outdoor night scenes. It would be an example of how selecting the right camera can save in many thousands of dollars of lighting.
We want to see your footage review of Meike cine FF prime lineup, I heard a lot good things about them.
It’s possible I’ve just finished my last ever project with a Blackmagic camera and that makes me very excited. They’re great beginner cameras but I’m ready for something more reliable and geared towards how I want to shoot.
The Blackmagic Cameras are NOT beginner cameras in the slightest. Most beginners couldn't get a descent image out of one.
That Red is a Beast! I would appreciate if you could do another video doing some test footage and doing some work with The HDR on this camera. Thanks !!
Can still remember when this came out
Ive got my 6d, nifty fifty, and magic lantern and it still looks pretty dang good
Finally!! Let's gooooo
thank you!
I love experiencing these older cinema cameras through and your money 😂
As much as I love the RED’s image quality, its down sides as a camera are too big, so for the time being, I’ll keep my 6 k pro. Thanks for the awesome review 🙏
I've been using the Scarlet as my university graduation film camera. After using it I have personally been eyeing the Red Epic MX since it has 5K120p and is around the same price as the Scarlet.
I've been using the Sony A7 line up for a couple of years. As much as I love the insane convenience and warm colours I personally just prefer the Scarlet even if it has bad low light capabilities and expensive rigging the image is just stunning compared to an a7iis or the a7iii. One day I'd love to own a Red Camera, but for now the Sony A7's will do for the mean time.
I had my BT Scarlet MX since 2012. I sold it last fall and picked up a DRAGON 6K. I know REDs been pushing their Komodos and Raptors but I feel Im graduating at my own pace and benefiting from really old tech :)
@@ericsantiago2199A lot of the the new consumer cimema cameras are great in many ways Zcam brings 6k and 8k and a decent price Red Komodo brings their image quality at an affordable price too but they all have limitations that the older cameras over come. Some do 6k others do 8k, But most of them do 60fps at 4k internally without an external recorder, which personally is a tad disappointing to me. Older Red cameras are powerhouses at specific resolutions and personally 4k Full Format or 5k is as far as feel I need to go.
Just when I thought I decided on what camera to purchase next
Bought one of these back around 2012, and I still love it. It's still my favorite camera. I just wish there was a bigger 3rd party support market for it, especially when it comes to the SSD's.
there is no clean HDMI/SDI output to use with external recorder? and prolly it kills RAW availability?
@@KamilKeenanVisuals HDMI and SDI on these were both 1080p out, so you couldn't record 4K.
It seems intentional on part of RED to make 3rd party support harder. The closed ecosystem that forces you to spend money on expensive proprietary accessories is probably my biggest gripe with RED cameras.
We've been shooting with a pair of 6K Pro's for the last year and they're our favourite cameras we've ever shot with! Blackmagic cameras are super underrated.
everyone has a black magic camera so underrated is hardly true
Love this series!
Idea for a next one: AJA CION
They must be extremely rare ;)
Wow, these really hold their value!
The good old Red Epic Dragon is still one of my favourite cameras ever skintones are amazing, much better that any other recent red camera (specially the Helium, i hate that sensor), i'd put it right after the Alexa Mini, and you can get it for cheap nowadays.
But i find it funny that you say you got ONE v-mount battery, for a whole shooting day, i'd say that even with 6 150wh batteries, you'll have to be careful for them to last long enough, specially once you had a Teradek, monitor and wireless FF.
Would you get a Red Epic Dragon over something like an ARRI Alexa XT?
@@daniellediamond457 I would say it depends on your work. To be overly simple imo the Red Dragon is better for commercial work and the XT is better for narrative.
Amazing review, thank you! Where did you get that Scarlet Vmount cheese plate adapter from?? I have been looking for something like that for months.
i really love your old camera series, I own original BMPCC and the image out of the sensor is amazing. I am still learning though. And I think buying old red camera is great option with the down side of repairs.
Love these old cinema camera reviews, keep ‘‘em coming.
yep is a best my cinematography school have one and i love it
Could you do a series on old dslrs like canon 5d mark 2 canon eons 550D, it would be really cool to see.
Any plans to pick up an Alexa Classic EV? Seeing them list for around $3500 these days. Great video, by the way. Been looking forward to hearing your take on the Scarlet.
Can you do photography with them? The image quality is so good! Are there any advantages to using this type of cameras for photography? Or just for video?
Awesome video! The RED seems to have more intense color banding. Any thoughts on that?
Hi Caleb. Have you ever considered reviewing the Sony CineAlta PMW-F5 (not to be confused with the FS5 its little brother) as a budget cinema camera? They’re available used, and still current with Sony as a model that they still sell new and provide service for (but pre-owned is way more affordable). If you like the organic look of RED and you liked the Sony F3, you might like the F5. I realize that none of us have unlimited money for cameras but since the Sony F5 pre-owned is in a similar price range to the RED that you reviewed in this video, it might be something that your viewers are interested in. I have an F5 with the 4K upgrade [also Netflix approved with the 4K upgrade] and for my needs, the Sony F5 is an affordable 4K PL mount camera with amazing natural color and affordable media cards. Thank you for providing content for filmmakers like myself that are on a budget. Sure it’s fun to watch videos about shooting with Arri Master Prime lenses, but we also need content about gear that we can actually save up for too. God bless!😊
Everyone always overlooks the F5. Sony gave the F5 a firmware update to include nearly every feature of the F55 other than the global shutter and extended color gamut which are inherent to the sensor. I picked up a rigged out upgraded F5 for under 3k.
My only complaint is I have difficulty getting the AC out of the back of the camera. Goes in easy but even when I push in and twist counter clockwise it doesn't come out. I got it stuck now, but it use to come out with a good deal of trouble. Wow. I didn't realize time passed so quickly. That was 1,000 per year.
Consider make a video about Panasonic Eva 1
Thanks for the great video. It would be great to buy your bmpcc 6k :)
Love this series, Sony FS5 would be a good one to review next I'm seeing them as cheap as BMPCC 4Ks are new.
It def has that Cinema vibe
I felt like this comparison between the Blackmagic and the Red Camera was like a modern vs classic cars conversation. Yeah, modern ones may have lots of comodities and technology, but man, there is something in those classics that makes them always stand out
Maybe it’s the engine sound and nice build quality.
Funny, I almost bought one a couple of years ago but when I did my research I found that if they break it’s impossible to fix them at a reasonable cost. Still, I live the images you showed. I just bought an fx3 but I’m still wondering if that red is the one that got away…
The fx3 is a great buy. Matter of fact i just got a Scarlet X at a bargain price and might sell it to maybe get an fx3. Honestly? Media is what does it for me. Expensive, old and getting hard to come by. Other than that id keep it honestly.
Hey Joel. I hear you. I can get great images out of the fx3 when I get the lighting right. I also have a blackmagic pocket 6k and I can get better images out of that more often, except no autofocus, no flip screen and no ibis, which are very important to me when I’m one of the actors in the shot. So for me I need two cameras, one for every day and another for more cinematic shots. My biggest fear with an old scarlet is if it breaks and I can’t fix it. I love the image though…
dear DSLR video shooter lord,how much wordlessly this title is when seeing it straight to my heart...I still cant afford to buy it-RED epic,my favorite-I used to dream one and decided to buy it in a second hand market,7 years passed,I still earn for what I basic need in routine life and have no rest enough to collect for the price(rmb 15 thousands) in that market,7 years,last week I went to that cargo shelf where this babe is sleeping on and talked abit with her(again again again,I talked with this shop many times,just looked at it and gone away),today youtube pushed up ur old video of this one,I really really love this RED,really! If no bother,can u lend me this one just for few weeks or months to try side by side,I will be life time thankful,a bottom indie doc movie maker in China😇
I mean scarlet,wrong put...both them to me are all goods
love this series! makes me appreciate the color you could get from older sensors!
7:36 the blackmagic looks more video-y because of the partial debayering that happens in camera. It's not real raw. Braw is like prores but with metadata. Also the sensor is from sony which contributed to that video look. Sony's prosumer camera sensors don't look as good as their more expensive counterparts.
Pocket 4K and 6K are capable of much sharper image and deeper colors but since the camera doesn't record fully raw data onto the file it doesn't look good.
Try downgrading the pocket 4K to firmware 6.0 and try the cinemadng out. You'll be blown away by the quality. It's the full raw data from the sensor and the debayering only happens on the nle. It will match the red much better than raw.
Braw is better for live events or documentary work but not for narrative work.