Donetsk Demands a Referendum: Russian Roulette
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- Опубліковано 8 кві 2014
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On April 7, the people of Donetsk declared themselves an independent republic and called for a Crimea-style referendum by May 11th. VICE News correspondent Simon Ostrovsky was there as people stormed the regional administration building and demanded to join Russia.
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Well whatever it is. Something has begun.
I'm afraid you're right.
your right i have made a sandwich. Now i'm eating it.
Neo Zeon I read that as I saw the people making sandwiches
Didn't expect you to be here, old AltHistoryHub.
well, you were wrong.
Imagine walking into a place in open revolt with your camera, people are yelling at you to stop filming, and you sneak through like an underage college student trying to get into a bar. Love it
They weren't even sneaking in they were allowed to lol.
@@MrGeorge7823 The dude that let them through was not an authority in there.
Your are very wrong :) They shout in Russian: 'Come on! Come in! He is a journalist from decent media, he is on our side' - this part was definitely specially staged - looks very biased and unnatural as if Russian miners could speak English or knew something about foreign media and appreciate it - they couldn't and didn't..
´´Vice. The Truth´´ Good job
Referendum has come!
Ну хоть VICE про Донецк рассказали, а то остальные молчат зарубежные СМИ
Russia Today рассказывали тоже
EU.Karyukin ну RT это российские СМИ вещающие зарубежом.
***** Ты идиот.
Нормально он делал выводы, я бы даже сказал, где мог выискивал, хоть какой нибудь намек на насилие и находил со стороны ВС РФ.
***** Нет, туда инопланетяне прилетели в зеленом камуфляже )))
lol, Ive been following since before Simon was on the scene, and Ive seen all of Simon's coverage of the situation. It's nice to see him finally get some respect from the (pro?)Russian/ Ukrainians(?). "Clear way, Vice news! It's the truth!" LOL, so funny, I love it. Its been a rough journey for him. Congrats.
Vice’s coverage of this was excellent. Simon is a journalist I enjoy watching, he’s good at his craft.
Very biased and leftist pov
@@Dreznik88 lol what?
@@Dreznik88 you are literally brainwashed if thats what you gathered from this series lol
Сказано же, правда - не шило, в мешке брехни украинских СМИ не утаишь!
USA, This is such a shame! I understand that in Kiev were the people too and some of them went on the streets for the better life. I so want to write so many words about what is "Right Sector", why EU and US close the eyes about it, why they call Putin a Hitler after he made 3 languages in Crimea and close eyes on Timoshenko call for nukes and people yelling "put Russins on knives!" and "who doesn't jump that one is moskal", but I'm alredy tired to comment on your double standarts and lie. And believe me, these videoes are not fabricated, this is the real life of Ukraine. Really.
I can see Ukraine slowly chipping away as more people decides to join Russia.
Russia seems to be trying to get back its lost provinces it lost after the USSR collapsed. I wonder if they would attempt to invade Finland. it was once part of Russia also.
Anthony Byers In the eyes of the west, The rise of this New Russia is very frightening. NATO and the US do not want Russia to become powerful again, they have been working the last two decades to surround and incorparate the former Soviet Union into its influence. However with the rise of Putin and his dreams to rebuild, not a new communist Soviet Union, but a nationalist powerful Russia is standing up to them. To the people of Russia and the east, he is a hero, he may be a dictator... he may be relentlessness, but his goals to make Russia great again have forged on, and neither Europe or the US have or can stop him. I fear if we let Putin take Ukraine, he wont stop till he has all of Eastern Europe back, however if we do stop him.... we could risk war.
doesnt matter. if you want to join a nation or not. you need to do it democratically. you cant just march in there and steal land. thats what russia did.
Justice782 IDIOT!...just plain idiot. Read something first.
Its a possibility that more regions will say they want to join Russia. Then Russia might as well annex the whole country
Simon rocks as always
Этот день настал❤️🤧
and in Kherson? :)
@kotejikRU cry about what? Russia losing thousands of men IN Ukraine? 😂😭😭😭😭
@@xo121w and Ukraine is not, even according to American sources, the dead military of Ukraine 100,000+)
@@CREW-gb3bv and? Ukraine doesnt have choice. russia can leave.
@@xo121w no, ukraine must leave the donbass, they are not welcome there
The grass on the other side is always greener.
Vice showing Russian supporters and not bad mouthing them painting them as terrorists? I am impressed, there is hope for you yet VICE :D
Finally real news on the situation in Ukraine and not US propaganda!! It is like a breath of fresh air!!
I was just thinking the same thing!!!!
This is the 22nd dispatch. Have you been living under a rock?
Thank you for support of truth! Who wants more - there are fotos of anti-nationalists manifestations in East and Southern Ukraine and Crimea (March 01, 2014): colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1445657.html
Text in Russian, but pictures are understandable. All these people are against new Kiev government which they call junta. (To be honest, most people in Western and Central Ukraine support Maidan and new Kiev authorities. But Eastern and Southern Ukraine is very different thing.)
Юрий Шабалин With page translate we can understand it. When were the pictures taken?
chantal chauvet
This is so called March of Liberation (March, 01, 2014). It was first massive reaction to overturn in Kiev. People of all cities of Eastern and Southern Ukraine and Crimea participated. (As you may see, Crimea was already protected by armed 'polite people' at the moment, and local people consider them ally.)
Where are all the people complaining about vice only showing one side of the story?
Ah, I can't even watch these anymore. If not the video itself, then the comments are too damn depressing.
"this is VICE News. The truth"
These people seem alot more friendly than the Pro Russian Crimean's were
NotManyDTL Nah, they're just not familiar with VICE yet.
NotManyDTL And not the Crimean protesters? Wut
Guka Tu Too right brother
That's because they aren't Russian troops in disguise.
Меня прикалывают люди которые говорят: "Хотите быть частью России - уезжайте". Вы вообще в курсе что территория принадлежит народу?! Или вы как думали: Пригнали десять тысяч человек на Майдан, посадили хунту править и теперь вся Украина ваша??? Почему восток Украины должен подчиняться правительству?! Их никто не выбирал и им срать на мнение юго-востока страны. Они хотели решить судьбу всей Украины в Киеве.
На Украине и раньше восток и запад были разными. И Майдан вбил клин между ними. Именно "Майдан" развалил страну!
Самое интересное, что они не понимают, что на Майдане даже не было 1% населения Украины. Т.е. при приблизительно 40 млн населения (вместе с Крымом) 1%=400тыс.
DA
People will always choose an ability to put food on the table over ideology everytime.
Russia does not start wars, but it finishes them.
Ukraine is not an exception.
So what happened in Afghanistan?
Issac Dovahkiin USA funding the Taliban (whom they are fighting at this very instance using the US people's tax money) is what happened, my friend.
I know that, I was just referring that Russia didn't do so well in Afghanistan. just pointing out Russia doesn't finish everything is all.
Issac Dovahkiin So now we have biggest drug traffic in Afganistan after years of USA occupation. When USSR came in any country soviet people improve iunderdeveloped infrastructure and build energetic objects.My country (USSR) give new tecnologies to that countries(VietNam,NorthKorea,Egypt,Afganistan,India,China). When USA comes in it destroy industrial sector and make countryes as a colony, commodity market for their goods.
Yeah Russia sure helped Afghanistan...
Самые честные новости, имхо.
Good Work as usual Simon, your dispatches on this crisis has been extremely informing yet also entertaining.
Power to the People of the East!
seems in occident everyone forgot this and give voice just to de voices they want to hear
Стойкости и успехов жителям юговостока в борьбе против произвола киевской преступной власти!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll
see how your culture has mass genocide and rape???
Russia is a plague to this earth, and should have been bombed, not japan.
=)
Very fat. Go to huy.
Ты хотя поинтересуйся, сколько на тот свет отправилось людей которые "просто не вписались в рынок".
почему она преступная?
Maxim Kobzistyy its not....
was just trying to talk shit to that idiot "prafvsegda," the truth is they move here to get away from their government.
Maxim Kobzistyyпотому что устроила кровавый переворот ради передела власти.
Funny how Putin just stay's back, but everybody accuses him of starting everything.
Western propaganda is like magic. It can turn black into white and water into oil.
Pasparal da Beira do Canal Its not like Putin isn't doing anything, it's shocking that most of the Left Wingers say that the protests in the Maindan were backed by the US and Eu and had a strong fascist ideology.
Can't the same be happening in Eastern Ukraine but with Russian?
Pasparal da Beira do Canal just as much as the Russian propaganda is calling every Ukrainian a fascist anti-Russian neo-nazi.
WizzMills
To paraphrase your question: aren't the pro-Russian separatists just as right-wing and racist as the US-backed opposition which overthrew the elected government in February?
That's a good point. But if you take into account the extreme reputation of Svoboda and Pravy Sektor, and their hostility, not only against ethnic Russians, but also against Jews, Poles and other minority groups, this question doesn't seem that difficult to answer. To the separatists Russia largely represents a multi-ethnic state and (although no more the case) the egalitarian ideals of the former USSR. Compare that to the Maidan junta with its close ties to the US State Department and the IMF.
Your not seeing what's going on here. The Ukraine government is in shambles, and most of the people demonstrating see the writing all over the wall. People are fickle and generally want to be on the winning side. That side is obviously Russia, and seeing as how many Ukrainians were alive when Ukraine was part of the USSR, they want to go back to that time. They are playing right into Putin's hands. He's not staying back because he's some peace loving guy, he's just waiting for the people to demand that he "save" them.
1:55 - теперь едины!
Wow, impressive you got in. Good to see a firsthand explanation of what's going on with both sides.
Россия+Украина=навсегда вместе! Люблю наш народ! Рождена в СССР! Хочу назад! Европа, США уберите ваши грязные в крови руки от нас!!! Не нужны нам ваши кредиты, партнёрство, сланцевый газ, пропаганда фашизма и гей-парады! Марина, Днепропетровск.
Translation: (Marina is from Dnepropetrovsk city, Eastern Ukraine)
Russia + Ukraine = friends forever! I love our people! I was born in USSR and want back! Europe, USA, hands off from us! We don't need you credits, partnership, shale gas, propaganda of fascism and gay parades!
Говори за себя.
Никита Вареня Так она и говорит за себя. Ты вот, за себя брякнут) Желаешь западных кредитов, гейпарадов? Сланцевой нефти и газа, который в считанные годы превратит твой край в непролазные говнищща? Думаешь "Европы" с распростёртыми объятиями и мешком бабла и сникерсов нас ждут?
Nothings more suspicious then people not wanting cameras around….
You simpleton.
смотрю эти vice news показывают всё как есть, первый раз такие новости вижу. Респект)) просмотрел весь цикл russian roulette, верится.
Smilled at that "VICE NEWS IT'S TRUTH" Oh Simon and his friends
"This is Vice News. The truth." They should put that on billboards.
It will be a good marketing gig. They should use it the next time they promote the channel.
This has mixing feeling on what happen 8 years ago to this date
Thanks for your hard work Simon!
Russian Roulette: The Invasion of Ukraine? Lol?
The dream come true this week
Why don't they just move to russia if they like it so much?
Well said
That sounds familiar doesn't it? Why don't the immigrants and minorities in the UK or USA just go back to their countries?
They are moving, With their land. Like the people of Crimea.
Ganily That's like a Mexican moving to the United States to get a better life for their family and then protesting to allow Mexico to annex the US. Makes a lot of sense, huh? I agree with OP. If they like Russia so much they should just move there..not cause civil war because they're too stubborn.
bushpilot223 This region was built from scratch by the Russian Empire, It was noman's land. It was populated with Russians. It was given to Ukraine in 1922 by Lenin. Now these people want to go fix that error. They want to go back.
I'm actually quite pleasantly surprised to see VICE do a coverage on this, at first i thought VICE was just another anti-Russian media. Now i know they are not. But, alas, my mood was quickly destroyed when i scrolled down to the comments, to see people be negative towards these protests even though they were supporting the ones in Euromaidan.
Maidan was an anti-corruption protest.
These protests are instigated by the Russian propaganda, that made people think that Maidan was a nazi takeover, which is obviously utter bullshit.
See my point, guys?
So you prefer not to see the difference?
Artem Goutsoul These protests were instigated by the halving of pensions, and inane crippling of salaries, as the guy in the video said.
Dejan Andric
Which was done by Yanukovich and his family. Same thing is going to happen in Russia in near future, since even the Russian officials admit that the economy is stagnating possibly going into recession.
Economic reasons are not a good reason to join another country. If it's economic, then you just protest against the economic issues, vote for a different government or take a train and move.
The only reason for separation is if the central government somehow discriminates, against you. However that obviously wasn't happening. It's the opposite: Donetsk was always receiving subsidies from the central government. Current government policies didn't even have time to have any effect yet. It will take at least a year to notice any difference. All of the current problems are still the legacy of the previous government. The ex-president was actually from Donetsk region. Most the people in Donetsk voted for him.
Nice pan down at her perfectly manicured finger nails as she says they've suffered greatly in Ukraine.
And that huge ring!
You lot would like to see her beaten up and dressed in rags to qualify for "suffered greatly"?
14000 towns people were killed by the Ukrainians. You can lose people around you and still had nice things.
Я не перестаю удивляться. Первое моё удивление было, когда я увидел, что реально большинство в Крыму хотят в Россию. И не просто хотят, а готовы предпринимать реальные действия. а теперь Луганск и Донецк. Причём они организуются, создают структуры. Респект вам, ребята, и уважуха. Если решитесь до нашего шалашу ), будем вам рады. Только не ждите печенек, сначала вместе прийдётся горя хлебнуть. Никто в мире нам не простит поднятой головы.
VICE NEWS, make video from Lugansk! Please.
Great reporting from Vice, as always.
Просто супер репортажи, огромное спасибо.
tremendous job of reporting on the scenario in Ukraine, thank you!
WE SHOULD STAY OUT OF IT THEY ARE MOSTLY RUSSIAN ANYWAY AND WERE BEFOR W.W. TWO THEY WILL SEE WHEN ALL THEIR RIGHTS ARE GONE ?? RUSSIA WILL DO WHAT THEY WANT SO THEY MIGHT AS WELL BEND OVER FOR THE DICTATOR OR K.G.B. COL. SORRY FOR THEM. JOSEPH
Some pretty cool defenses they have there
VICE News, you fucking rock.
its easy for people in the comments sections to pick a side, but unless you live in the situation where these people do then you have no clue what you're on about. I dont blame Eastern Ukraine to want to be part of Russia, and i dont blame the rest of Ukraine not wanting to let them go. Its a real shit fight and i dont know how its going to be solved.
Federalising Ukraine seems sensible to me. I was surprised that Ukraine was not a Federation -- it has a large population and some obvious regional divisions in economy and culturally.
A lot depends on how Kiev reacts to the protests in the Russia-leaning parts of Ukraine. They could trigger a civil war (that Russia would almost certainly intervene decisively in), so they should be extremely cautious. It may now be too late to hold the remaining regions together in a unified state, the damage having been done by earlier bad decisions. (Crimea is gone -- even the most anti-Russian Western media have given up on the "invasion" argument.)
wise words. rare to find such people around here.
@@boggisthecat Civil war was triggered. Russia didn't step in for some reason directly. Sad stuff
@@boggisthecat Федерализацию и жить без проблем можно было ещё при подписании Минских соглашений и выполнив их а не доводят восток Украины до состояния что совсем не хотят с Украиной. Теперь уже поздно.
@@zvonoc-80
Yes, I understand that. My original comment was 9 years ago, after Crimea had been retaken by the Russian Federation. Kyiv started out with the smart idea of being the go-between of Russia and the EU, but that depended on maintaining stability within a country with multiple identities. Russia has been largely successful at maintaining the balance between local autonomy and national unity - ‘Russia is a nation of multiple religions and cultures’. Ukraine, especially following US interference in 2004 then 2014, has pursued a lie that they are ‘one people’ - and those who do not fit that lie are persecuted.
Ukraine is now a lost cause for the US. The intended strategy to cripple Russia economically failed spectacularly, and they were unable to meet even the minimal military requirements of Kyiv to fight Russian forces. The US is already pushing the Baltic states to crack down further on their Russian populations. That will inevitably pressure Moscow to become more involved in that region. The ‘long game’ is still going, and the US will be willing to wreck all of Europe in an attempt to pull down Russia. I don’t understand how they really believe they are in a position to also bring down China. Empires typically descend into madness before they finally fall.
0:35 you can hear the Internationale playing in the background
East Ukrainian region of Donbas also known as Donets Basin used to be Russian lands. Entire Donbas Region (East Ukraine) was a part of Russia back in the day. People in Donetsk (Donbas region) used to be ethnic Russians but when Donetsk and other cities from Donbas region that got transferred to Ukraine people of Russian ethnicity eventually got mixed up with ethnic Ukranians. Now people in Donbas region identify themselves as Ukranians, but the Russian mentality and heritage still lives strong in them and that's why they want to be closer to Russia.
Well if that's how we decided borders than the entire western part of Russia should go back to Germany and Italy should have all of Western Europe. After all those lands belonged to them for hundreds of years.
britvroman Prussia dumb ass. Look it up.
britvroman Prussia doesn't exist anymore you dumb shit. It was dissolved in 1948. Why are you people so dumb.
snooperbob
You sound so angry kid, did your mommy take too much for your basement rent this month? Yes obviously Prussia doesn't exist today, thank you for stating the obvious dumby.
snooperbob
I wouldn't say Prussias border includes parts of Russia. It borders the old USSR's borders, sure, but not todays Russia. It stops around where Lithuania is located.
I'm trying to learn the history as it continues until today. God bless you all, may the peace be with you.
Donetsk is finally Russia. 👌
In Lithuania we have only 4% Russians, thank god... our resistance soldiers stopped them from settling in Lithuania during soviet occupation.
Tautinė Lietuvos gyventojų sudėtis pagal 2011 m. Statistikos Departamento duomenis:
rusai - 5,8 % (176,9 tūkst.)
They did not die for nothing. There is worse situation in Latvia
Great job Vice, it’s remarkable that you’ve been able to get to Donetsk on such short notice, as soon as it became the center of attention.
Let’s see what happens next....
War and full circle to the same problem but 70,000 less people. It won’t stop simple bc both sides won’t believe each other’s no matter if they get every country involved, no trust
Посмотрели????? А теперь и у вас это будет!!!!
Wow I've been watching a lot of these Dispatches and one thing is quite clear, tires must grow on trees, if not where do they get all those darn tires?
хоть кто-то на Западе начинает правду говорить, про то что на Украине происходит!
Finally, 8 years later and so many dead the people of LDPR are their way to liberate their homes from the Ukrainian nazi menace. You have fought bravely. 🇷🇺🐻💪💪💪
The Nazis of today are from RuSSia
Do you guys even know what the wors you use mean? Its ironic for someone defending the imperialistic, race based conquest of an area by a genocidal dictator to call anyone else nazi
Ukraine... what did you do to you half of your people?
let russians in :(
Dale Redping Ukraine was russian land since dawn of times.
clouster75 No it wasn't.
clouster75 .......... Ignorance...........
clouster75
No I believe it's been known as "the ukraine" for quite a few years now
Those who say "Russia should respect the Ukrainian people's self-agency" (meaning they can be pro-EU, pro-US), should also say "Ukraine should respect the self-agency of its people who no longer wished to be part of Ukraine."
True
Jesus, they dont have international or ukrainian right to separate. Only all nation can decide what will be with one or another region of their country.
@@Self_Sabotage87 They have one since 2008
Your youtube nick picture says everything we need know. Old ass commie xdd
Move to Russia
It seems that Russia is far more popular than the propaganda spinners would have us think
You find it a shock that Russians support Russia? These people are ethnic Russians. Its the NON Russians that are against Russia
What makes you think that? It looks like there's only about a few hundred people at most protesting which makes sense since the vast majority of Eastern Ukraine wants to stay in Ukraine, they just want reforms.
Why is this called "the invasion of Ukraine"?!
Luis Sanchez The US has thousands upon thousands of troops in various European countries (whose populations don't want those American bases and soldiers there), yet we don't call that an invasion. [Perhaps we should.] But that's exactly how the Russian soldiers in Ukraine happen to be there: Ukraine and Russia have a military treaty that entitles Russia to post up to 25,000 troops anywhere in Ukraine.
For some reason, our MSM (but also Vice News, apparently) don't want us to know that.
Vaska Tumir We have troops on military bases in those countries, and they gladly let us in there. We pay them rent, and local business owners get a boost to sales.
Vaska Tumir
Is that right? Your problem is, you have the foreign affairs knowledge of an average north korean citizen. I don't blame you Vaska, but your russian president.
probably because of the foreign troops invading ukraine
Dale Redping only in your paranoid imagination
really enjoy and appreciate your vids simon...good luck and don't get killed.
The video is so short :(
People in every region globally should have the democratic right to self determination under United Nations law. Let people vote. Have UN and OSCE observers and respect the results. I'm against Russia invasion of Ukraine but I believe DPR and LPR are justified in defending their oblasts from Ukraine.
All pro ukrainians have been beaten Up or dissapeared in those "russian" Regions.
Yes they should have self determination and RUSSIA needs to let that happen instead of sending milita, driving out all the opposition they can, holding faked referendums then trying to conquer them.
As things stood in the last fare election the majority voted for pro-ukrain partys
А когда ЛНР и ДНР были против АТО и входа в состав Украины и тем более с таким режимом вы были такого мнения, или это сейчас политика Зеленского. И теперь против вторжения России в Украину. Какого было и сейчас городам Донбасса и Луганска ещё захваченных и обстреливаемых Украиной. Ещё территории Донбасса не освобождены наверное в курсе.
Дайте людям провести референдум если они этого хотят. Скорее всего не хватит голосов за присоединение к России. Если бы там было много за, то людей на площади было бы больше. Да, есть там желающие, думающие что в России будет мед и сказка, но их все же меньше. Да и Россия на самом деле не особо то и планирует присоединение Донбаса. Это уже четко показано. Но если со стороны антиконституционной хунты в Киеве начнется резня, то России уже придется просто защищать людей от смерти.
Спасибо за информацию, Симон!
And why are these 5 min clips Simon make them longer by the way I saw Simon on the Russian news channel he was lurking around I was cracking up
Venezuela with Ukraine. Fight for your liberty.
That's exactly what they're doing.
The West destroyed their country with their usual shit.
Divide and conquer tactics, whole country is led to civil war, banksters need to fund some more wars and instill chaos before they move in as saviours with their unbearable loans that will enslave everyone in Ukraine for decades, maybe even centuries.
People want a referendum, they want to vote on what they think is best for them.
That's what Democracy was about, letting the people decide for their own future.
I know it's hard for Westerners to perceive a concept where you actually forge your own future, but it can be done.
Fuck off you trolling piece of shit, Venezuela with Chavez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chavez is dead. So is what he left behind..
Lui Fenty
Say Hi to your CIA handler, his salary is payed by my taxes
Hahaha I love how every time people criticize the Venezuelan government, someone comes out and blames the CIA... Yeah, because the CIA hires kids like me to post their opinions on youtube.. grow up.
Donetsk has some great shopping also. Maybe Simon can buy pants that fit him.
Amazing coverage, vice is my only source for international news...Only the truth!!
Ngl, Verdansk looks good with this new graphic.
Well I guess the Ukrainians are basically like "fuck it lets just join Russia anyways..."
They are afraid because Kiev is in shit state, and anti Russian elements have taken over in the capital.
Ukraine is an artificial entity which people have no loyalty to. The place in the video was Russia long before it was Ukraine.
***** They said majority of Crimeans are against this.
LordLebu But the previous government was anti-ukrainian, did you know that? Some nationalists came to power but really they don't have much authority. All that hysteria about "anti-russian elements" is spread by Kremlin which panics because it loses the grip over Ukraine after pro-russian Yanukovitch was overthrown.
Bohdan Martak The previous government was not anti-Ukrainian. Tell me one anti-Ukrainian thing they have done.
The comments here are even more a mess than the situation there...
Holy Shit....This situation just keeps getting crazier and crazier....
Putin thirsys for Ukrainian semen.
props to the camera man 00:27 he always seems to be in the right place at the right time. You know they weren't editing out those few frames.
I like vice.and it seams like thay like vice to. Vice est veritas
because vice dont bullshit too much, unlike other outlets
This is THE FIRST objective report in the whole "Russian roulette" series...
kickinghighify i wold say that theay have bean objektiv the whole time thay have intervued pepole that whants to speack thay whanted to talk to the russian soldiers but thaty wold not talk
Disagree, this episode is objective reporting as to what's happening on the ground with no pro-independence forces or pro-maidan agenda where before it was obviously one sided as Russians - occupants, disregarding that to 90% of population of Crimea they were liberators. P.S. Russian soldiers clearly had orders not to make any comments, can't blame them.
Никогда запад и восток не был одной страной. Можно возмущаться, психовать, троллить... Но никогда западная Украина и Восточная Украина не была единой страной по определению! Восток и Крым тупо престегнули к Украине и в этом вся проблема и для Запада и для Востока. Если кто-то думает что Украина едина, то пусть ответит почему Киевская хунта так сильно боится референдума????
Can you do a report from Lugansk?
3:19 name of the song ?
Я думаю что вас туда пустили только потому что перепутали название Life Nevs и Vice News, слишком созвучно поэтому вам повезло.
В любом случае молодцы, что вещаете про Украину, ибо то что я увидел на вашем канале, по тв не показывали, рад что международное сообщество поддерживает Украину и показывает правду.
Спасибо Саймон за всю работу которую ты проделал, никто не смог побывать там где побывал ты.
Респект!
Going to take more than 150 Greystone mercenaries to put down this unrest in Donetsk.
Mah meng Simon!! Thumbs up budd!!
This shit is mad crazy yo!
SUPPORT TO DONETSK PEOPLE.
It is not Ukraine's obligation to maintain the kind of relationship that Russia wants. On the contrary, Ukraine has the right to maintain a relationship with Russia that Ukraine wants. This is like a jealous husband who still can not get over her wife who have left him !
USkraine
That jacket should be like a symbol of simon :D
Here we go again!
It's all ogre now🥂
Isnt this the exact same thing the people in Kiev did? Why is that ok and this isnt?
cuz those ppl are for a dictator
because those people don't agree with young Americans who hate Russia ( and basically all of the non-western world)
adamklam1 Young Americans don't hate Russia. There is a girl from Russia that goes to the same college as I do, and she is treated with respect here. I've never met anyone who hated Russia under the age of 60.
22 dispatch in one go!
Thanks VICE!
Wait for it...wait for it...
Man look at all those people expressing their belief to be independent or join Russia. And Ukraine attacked them for this? And Russia is bad for attacking Ukraine ?😂
No, ukrain don't attack them for this, Russia used them as an excuse to conqure more and more land znd ukrain fought back
Don't be a simpleton. In any country, an armed rebellion & seccession is treason & is dealt with force. And these idiots compounded that treason by colluding with a foreign government that manipulated them.
@@jacqdanieleswhat you have described is exactly what happened in Maidan before this. Do you think the people of Donbass chose to rise up for no reason? They were being blamed for Ukraine's problems and laws were being passed that were going to affect their way of life. They had a decision to either embrace Bandera or fight for what their ancestors did 70 years ago.
@@mattcannon8467 load of horse manure gaslighting.
Maidan was a result of protests that the pootin puppet government tried to extinguish with force. It then snowballed into a revolution.
Donbas was a clear instigation & proxy war waged by ruzzia. After annexing Crimea, Ruzzian FSB & GRU infiltrators like Igor Girkin were on the ground in Donbas in early 2014 organizing, arming, & funding a fake separatist movement that was sold to the world as an organic separatist movement.
All of that has been documented in this series. Yet you still make up sh1t.
@@jacqdanieles please, link to the claims you are making. I've watched this whole series a few times and from what I can tell, USA was caught plotting the coup. There's phone calls that were recorded. Biden can literally say anything and people will believe him. Like the pipeline being blown up. You gonna deny he had anything to do with that?
if the people of the Ukraine wish to be reunited with Russia , who are we to say no. If America lost texas in a similar fashion what would we do? what would we want ? At the end of the day this has absolutely fuck -all to do with our nation (the u.s.) and we should really be more worried about our own domestic issues.
Best episode
This is stupid, it's like the people in New York wanting to join Italy, people in Massachusetts wanting to join the UK, Mexican people joining Spain, or Brazilians joining Portugal. Just because you're a certain ethnicity doesn't give you a right to change an entire government about it.
After seeing the comment section of these Russians, I must say that Germany has the right to invade Poland as long as their is a larger German population then the Polish population in Poland, am I correct?
No, Germany must first starve-to-death or exile the native population (i.e. ethnically cleanse the area) before they have a valid claim to the land. You know, like what the USSR and modern-day Russia did or are doing. Then and only then is the ethnic majority a legitimate argument for invasion or annexation!
Very brave people in Donetsk. 🇷🇺
You must be talking about putins cannon fodder
@@kingkaijugaming2841 Bro, 100%
Those guys didin't new that this is the beginning of a civil war...
why you guys taking so long to upload this news