Donetsk Demands a Referendum: Russian Roulette

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  • Опубліковано 8 кві 2014
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    On April 7, the people of Donetsk declared themselves an independent republic and called for a Crimea-style referendum by May 11th. VICE News correspondent Simon Ostrovsky was there as people stormed the regional administration building and demanded to join Russia.
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  • @AlternateHistoryHub
    @AlternateHistoryHub 10 років тому +255

    Well whatever it is. Something has begun.

    • @Scrunchie_777
      @Scrunchie_777 10 років тому +4

      I'm afraid you're right.

    • @Eyesonscreenstudio
      @Eyesonscreenstudio 10 років тому +30

      your right i have made a sandwich. Now i'm eating it.

    • @joeyscerbo7776
      @joeyscerbo7776 5 років тому +7

      Neo Zeon I read that as I saw the people making sandwiches

    • @fuzzydunlop7928
      @fuzzydunlop7928 5 років тому +3

      Didn't expect you to be here, old AltHistoryHub.

    • @TerryFGM
      @TerryFGM 4 роки тому

      well, you were wrong.

  • @BBBqqq6
    @BBBqqq6 3 роки тому +112

    Imagine walking into a place in open revolt with your camera, people are yelling at you to stop filming, and you sneak through like an underage college student trying to get into a bar. Love it

    • @MrGeorge7823
      @MrGeorge7823 Рік тому +12

      They weren't even sneaking in they were allowed to lol.

    • @mollysanden6610
      @mollysanden6610 Рік тому +5

      @@MrGeorge7823 The dude that let them through was not an authority in there.

    • @lenaveil3711
      @lenaveil3711 11 місяців тому

      Your are very wrong :) They shout in Russian: 'Come on! Come in! He is a journalist from decent media, he is on our side' - this part was definitely specially staged - looks very biased and unnatural as if Russian miners could speak English or knew something about foreign media and appreciate it - they couldn't and didn't..

  • @cdralda
    @cdralda 10 років тому +46

    ´´Vice. The Truth´´ Good job

  • @louis-philippelavoie6929
    @louis-philippelavoie6929 Рік тому +29

    Referendum has come!

  • @kakponotam
    @kakponotam 10 років тому +193

    Ну хоть VICE про Донецк рассказали, а то остальные молчат зарубежные СМИ

    • @Supergenek
      @Supergenek 10 років тому +11

      Russia Today рассказывали тоже

    • @TheTamerlon
      @TheTamerlon 10 років тому +17

      EU.Karyukin ну RT это российские СМИ вещающие зарубежом.

    • @AEfsaenti
      @AEfsaenti 10 років тому +3

      ***** Ты идиот.

    • @AEfsaenti
      @AEfsaenti 10 років тому +2

      Нормально он делал выводы, я бы даже сказал, где мог выискивал, хоть какой нибудь намек на насилие и находил со стороны ВС РФ.

    • @olegmironov5636
      @olegmironov5636 10 років тому +7

      ***** Нет, туда инопланетяне прилетели в зеленом камуфляже )))

  • @DJJR617
    @DJJR617 10 років тому +69

    lol, Ive been following since before Simon was on the scene, and Ive seen all of Simon's coverage of the situation. It's nice to see him finally get some respect from the (pro?)Russian/ Ukrainians(?). "Clear way, Vice news! It's the truth!" LOL, so funny, I love it. Its been a rough journey for him. Congrats.

  • @Janet_Airlines802
    @Janet_Airlines802 4 роки тому +74

    Vice’s coverage of this was excellent. Simon is a journalist I enjoy watching, he’s good at his craft.

    • @Dreznik88
      @Dreznik88 Рік тому +1

      Very biased and leftist pov

    • @CryptoRoast_0
      @CryptoRoast_0 Рік тому +5

      ​@@Dreznik88 lol what?

    • @cornbread4everyone555
      @cornbread4everyone555 Рік тому

      @@Dreznik88 you are literally brainwashed if thats what you gathered from this series lol

  • @user-yalira
    @user-yalira 10 років тому +35

    Сказано же, правда - не шило, в мешке брехни украинских СМИ не утаишь!

  • @michaeldvinyaninov7144
    @michaeldvinyaninov7144 10 років тому +46

    USA, This is such a shame! I understand that in Kiev were the people too and some of them went on the streets for the better life. I so want to write so many words about what is "Right Sector", why EU and US close the eyes about it, why they call Putin a Hitler after he made 3 languages in Crimea and close eyes on Timoshenko call for nukes and people yelling "put Russins on knives!" and "who doesn't jump that one is moskal", but I'm alredy tired to comment on your double standarts and lie. And believe me, these videoes are not fabricated, this is the real life of Ukraine. Really.

  • @klusps
    @klusps 10 років тому +131

    I can see Ukraine slowly chipping away as more people decides to join Russia.

    • @anthonybyers3372
      @anthonybyers3372 10 років тому +29

      Russia seems to be trying to get back its lost provinces it lost after the USSR collapsed. I wonder if they would attempt to invade Finland. it was once part of Russia also.

    • @EntertaningAmerica
      @EntertaningAmerica 10 років тому +19

      Anthony Byers In the eyes of the west, The rise of this New Russia is very frightening. NATO and the US do not want Russia to become powerful again, they have been working the last two decades to surround and incorparate the former Soviet Union into its influence. However with the rise of Putin and his dreams to rebuild, not a new communist Soviet Union, but a nationalist powerful Russia is standing up to them. To the people of Russia and the east, he is a hero, he may be a dictator... he may be relentlessness, but his goals to make Russia great again have forged on, and neither Europe or the US have or can stop him. I fear if we let Putin take Ukraine, he wont stop till he has all of Eastern Europe back, however if we do stop him.... we could risk war.

    • @Justice782
      @Justice782 10 років тому +21

      doesnt matter. if you want to join a nation or not. you need to do it democratically. you cant just march in there and steal land. thats what russia did.

    • @grafff69
      @grafff69 10 років тому +7

      Justice782 IDIOT!...just plain idiot. Read something first.

    • @TheRedemptionRain
      @TheRedemptionRain 10 років тому +1

      Its a possibility that more regions will say they want to join Russia. Then Russia might as well annex the whole country

  • @admonster11
    @admonster11 10 років тому +48

    Simon rocks as always

  • @rus4399
    @rus4399 Рік тому +39

    Этот день настал❤️🤧

    • @xo121w
      @xo121w Рік тому +4

      and in Kherson? :)

    • @xo121w
      @xo121w Рік тому +5

      @kotejikRU cry about what? Russia losing thousands of men IN Ukraine? 😂😭😭😭😭

    • @CREW-gb3bv
      @CREW-gb3bv Рік тому +3

      @@xo121w and Ukraine is not, even according to American sources, the dead military of Ukraine 100,000+)

    • @xo121w
      @xo121w Рік тому +4

      @@CREW-gb3bv and? Ukraine doesnt have choice. russia can leave.

    • @CREW-gb3bv
      @CREW-gb3bv Рік тому

      @@xo121w no, ukraine must leave the donbass, they are not welcome there

  • @jcwebb540
    @jcwebb540 9 років тому +16

    The grass on the other side is always greener.

  • @WrathOfLust
    @WrathOfLust 10 років тому +54

    Vice showing Russian supporters and not bad mouthing them painting them as terrorists? I am impressed, there is hope for you yet VICE :D

  • @SuperMario1063
    @SuperMario1063 10 років тому +177

    Finally real news on the situation in Ukraine and not US propaganda!! It is like a breath of fresh air!!

    • @worldwidehiphop8843
      @worldwidehiphop8843 10 років тому +24

      I was just thinking the same thing!!!!

    • @hansjohnson1200
      @hansjohnson1200 10 років тому +34

      This is the 22nd dispatch. Have you been living under a rock?

    • @yuk_ainu
      @yuk_ainu 10 років тому

      Thank you for support of truth! Who wants more - there are fotos of anti-nationalists manifestations in East and Southern Ukraine and Crimea (March 01, 2014): colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1445657.html
      Text in Russian, but pictures are understandable. All these people are against new Kiev government which they call junta. (To be honest, most people in Western and Central Ukraine support Maidan and new Kiev authorities. But Eastern and Southern Ukraine is very different thing.)

    • @Quietstrenght1
      @Quietstrenght1 10 років тому

      Юрий Шабалин With page translate we can understand it. When were the pictures taken?

    • @yuk_ainu
      @yuk_ainu 10 років тому +2

      chantal chauvet
      This is so called March of Liberation (March, 01, 2014). It was first massive reaction to overturn in Kiev. People of all cities of Eastern and Southern Ukraine and Crimea participated. (As you may see, Crimea was already protected by armed 'polite people' at the moment, and local people consider them ally.)

  • @Rymzor
    @Rymzor 10 років тому +14

    Where are all the people complaining about vice only showing one side of the story?

  • @Wolf6119
    @Wolf6119 10 років тому +18

    Ah, I can't even watch these anymore. If not the video itself, then the comments are too damn depressing.

  • @tolazytoturnonthetv
    @tolazytoturnonthetv 10 років тому +19

    "this is VICE News. The truth"

  • @Adirondack13
    @Adirondack13 10 років тому +32

    These people seem alot more friendly than the Pro Russian Crimean's were

    • @gukaification
      @gukaification 10 років тому +10

      NotManyDTL Nah, they're just not familiar with VICE yet.

    • @broadsword1999
      @broadsword1999 10 років тому +3

      NotManyDTL And not the Crimean protesters? Wut

    • @hardjustice9366
      @hardjustice9366 10 років тому +1

      Guka Tu Too right brother

    • @PhiloAmericana
      @PhiloAmericana 10 років тому +5

      That's because they aren't Russian troops in disguise.

  • @IgorGreenBird
    @IgorGreenBird 10 років тому +43

    Меня прикалывают люди которые говорят: "Хотите быть частью России - уезжайте". Вы вообще в курсе что территория принадлежит народу?! Или вы как думали: Пригнали десять тысяч человек на Майдан, посадили хунту править и теперь вся Украина ваша??? Почему восток Украины должен подчиняться правительству?! Их никто не выбирал и им срать на мнение юго-востока страны. Они хотели решить судьбу всей Украины в Киеве.
    На Украине и раньше восток и запад были разными. И Майдан вбил клин между ними. Именно "Майдан" развалил страну!

    • @mr.medoed6643
      @mr.medoed6643 10 років тому +11

      Самое интересное, что они не понимают, что на Майдане даже не было 1% населения Украины. Т.е. при приблизительно 40 млн населения (вместе с Крымом) 1%=400тыс.

    • @kingkaijugaming2841
      @kingkaijugaming2841 4 роки тому

      DA

  • @lordblazer
    @lordblazer 10 років тому +9

    People will always choose an ability to put food on the table over ideology everytime.

  • @maggiearchi2315
    @maggiearchi2315 10 років тому +55

    Russia does not start wars, but it finishes them.
    Ukraine is not an exception.

    • @mangokiller111
      @mangokiller111 10 років тому +8

      So what happened in Afghanistan?

    • @stefan23productions
      @stefan23productions 10 років тому +5

      Issac Dovahkiin USA funding the Taliban (whom they are fighting at this very instance using the US people's tax money) is what happened, my friend.

    • @mangokiller111
      @mangokiller111 10 років тому +2

      I know that, I was just referring that Russia didn't do so well in Afghanistan. just pointing out Russia doesn't finish everything is all.

    • @aleksandrmylnikov8238
      @aleksandrmylnikov8238 10 років тому +10

      Issac Dovahkiin So now we have biggest drug traffic in Afganistan after years of USA occupation. When USSR came in any country soviet people improve iunderdeveloped infrastructure and build energetic objects.My country (USSR) give new tecnologies to that countries(VietNam,NorthKorea,Egypt,Afganistan,India,China). When USA comes in it destroy industrial sector and make countryes as a colony, commodity market for their goods.

    • @mangokiller111
      @mangokiller111 10 років тому +4

      Yeah Russia sure helped Afghanistan...

  • @vadim7208
    @vadim7208 10 років тому +33

    Самые честные новости, имхо.

  • @matthewjw.miskimmin3876
    @matthewjw.miskimmin3876 10 років тому +29

    Good Work as usual Simon, your dispatches on this crisis has been extremely informing yet also entertaining.
    Power to the People of the East!

  • @yimgame.
    @yimgame. 2 роки тому +5

    seems in occident everyone forgot this and give voice just to de voices they want to hear

  • @PrafVsegda
    @PrafVsegda 10 років тому +119

    Стойкости и успехов жителям юговостока в борьбе против произвола киевской преступной власти!

    • @kaizersoze
      @kaizersoze 10 років тому +3

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll
      see how your culture has mass genocide and rape???
      Russia is a plague to this earth, and should have been bombed, not japan.
      =)

    • @PrafVsegda
      @PrafVsegda 10 років тому +9

      Very fat. Go to huy.
      Ты хотя поинтересуйся, сколько на тот свет отправилось людей которые "просто не вписались в рынок".

    • @Kobza89891
      @Kobza89891 10 років тому

      почему она преступная?

    • @kaizersoze
      @kaizersoze 10 років тому

      Maxim Kobzistyy its not....
      was just trying to talk shit to that idiot "prafvsegda," the truth is they move here to get away from their government.

    • @PrafVsegda
      @PrafVsegda 10 років тому +11

      Maxim Kobzistyyпотому что устроила кровавый переворот ради передела власти.

  • @AlexTrubinDesign
    @AlexTrubinDesign 10 років тому +36

    Funny how Putin just stay's back, but everybody accuses him of starting everything.

    • @pasparaldabeiradocanal1578
      @pasparaldabeiradocanal1578 10 років тому +27

      Western propaganda is like magic. It can turn black into white and water into oil.

    • @WizzMills
      @WizzMills 10 років тому +8

      Pasparal da Beira do Canal Its not like Putin isn't doing anything, it's shocking that most of the Left Wingers say that the protests in the Maindan were backed by the US and Eu and had a strong fascist ideology.
      Can't the same be happening in Eastern Ukraine but with Russian?

    • @jayraymond7777
      @jayraymond7777 10 років тому +13

      Pasparal da Beira do Canal just as much as the Russian propaganda is calling every Ukrainian a fascist anti-Russian neo-nazi.

    • @pasparaldabeiradocanal1578
      @pasparaldabeiradocanal1578 10 років тому +1

      WizzMills
      To paraphrase your question: aren't the pro-Russian separatists just as right-wing and racist as the US-backed opposition which overthrew the elected government in February?
      That's a good point. But if you take into account the extreme reputation of Svoboda and Pravy Sektor, and their hostility, not only against ethnic Russians, but also against Jews, Poles and other minority groups, this question doesn't seem that difficult to answer. To the separatists Russia largely represents a multi-ethnic state and (although no more the case) the egalitarian ideals of the former USSR. Compare that to the Maidan junta with its close ties to the US State Department and the IMF.

    • @nohalfsteps8746
      @nohalfsteps8746 10 років тому +6

      Your not seeing what's going on here. The Ukraine government is in shambles, and most of the people demonstrating see the writing all over the wall. People are fickle and generally want to be on the winning side. That side is obviously Russia, and seeing as how many Ukrainians were alive when Ukraine was part of the USSR, they want to go back to that time. They are playing right into Putin's hands. He's not staying back because he's some peace loving guy, he's just waiting for the people to demand that he "save" them.

  • @dancemacabremusic2005
    @dancemacabremusic2005 7 місяців тому +4

    1:55 - теперь едины!

  • @eganjt
    @eganjt 10 років тому +5

    Wow, impressive you got in. Good to see a firsthand explanation of what's going on with both sides.

  • @lopanokia
    @lopanokia 10 років тому +41

    Россия+Украина=навсегда вместе! Люблю наш народ! Рождена в СССР! Хочу назад! Европа, США уберите ваши грязные в крови руки от нас!!! Не нужны нам ваши кредиты, партнёрство, сланцевый газ, пропаганда фашизма и гей-парады! Марина, Днепропетровск.

    • @yuk_ainu
      @yuk_ainu 10 років тому +15

      Translation: (Marina is from Dnepropetrovsk city, Eastern Ukraine)
      Russia + Ukraine = friends forever! I love our people! I was born in USSR and want back! Europe, USA, hands off from us! We don't need you credits, partnership, shale gas, propaganda of fascism and gay parades!

    • @james_jamesons3096
      @james_jamesons3096 10 років тому +2

      Говори за себя.

    • @angry1109
      @angry1109 10 років тому +5

      Никита Вареня Так она и говорит за себя. Ты вот, за себя брякнут) Желаешь западных кредитов, гейпарадов? Сланцевой нефти и газа, который в считанные годы превратит твой край в непролазные говнищща? Думаешь "Европы" с распростёртыми объятиями и мешком бабла и сникерсов нас ждут?

  • @xycomm5604
    @xycomm5604 Рік тому +5

    Nothings more suspicious then people not wanting cameras around….

  • @vondorez
    @vondorez 10 років тому +12

    смотрю эти vice news показывают всё как есть, первый раз такие новости вижу. Респект)) просмотрел весь цикл russian roulette, верится.

  • @NikolaiPetrovski
    @NikolaiPetrovski 10 років тому +8

    Smilled at that "VICE NEWS IT'S TRUTH" Oh Simon and his friends

  • @BSproduction74
    @BSproduction74 10 років тому +6

    "This is Vice News. The truth." They should put that on billboards.

    • @luxvista2804
      @luxvista2804 10 років тому

      It will be a good marketing gig. They should use it the next time they promote the channel.

  • @01marth
    @01marth Рік тому +3

    This has mixing feeling on what happen 8 years ago to this date

  • @Shevelyoff
    @Shevelyoff 10 років тому +4

    Thanks for your hard work Simon!

  • @Primipilarius
    @Primipilarius 10 років тому +19

    Russian Roulette: The Invasion of Ukraine? Lol?

  • @luxeternity
    @luxeternity Рік тому +16

    The dream come true this week

  • @100nni
    @100nni 10 років тому +32

    Why don't they just move to russia if they like it so much?

    • @chaosmauser661
      @chaosmauser661 10 років тому +10

      Well said

    • @Ganily
      @Ganily 10 років тому +8

      That sounds familiar doesn't it? Why don't the immigrants and minorities in the UK or USA just go back to their countries?

    • @lom200a
      @lom200a 10 років тому +33

      They are moving, With their land. Like the people of Crimea.

    • @bushpilot223
      @bushpilot223 10 років тому +2

      Ganily That's like a Mexican moving to the United States to get a better life for their family and then protesting to allow Mexico to annex the US. Makes a lot of sense, huh? I agree with OP. If they like Russia so much they should just move there..not cause civil war because they're too stubborn.

    • @lom200a
      @lom200a 10 років тому +12

      bushpilot223 This region was built from scratch by the Russian Empire, It was noman's land. It was populated with Russians. It was given to Ukraine in 1922 by Lenin. Now these people want to go fix that error. They want to go back.

  • @deaansugee
    @deaansugee 10 років тому +79

    I'm actually quite pleasantly surprised to see VICE do a coverage on this, at first i thought VICE was just another anti-Russian media. Now i know they are not. But, alas, my mood was quickly destroyed when i scrolled down to the comments, to see people be negative towards these protests even though they were supporting the ones in Euromaidan.

    • @ArtemGoutsoul
      @ArtemGoutsoul 10 років тому +33

      Maidan was an anti-corruption protest.
      These protests are instigated by the Russian propaganda, that made people think that Maidan was a nazi takeover, which is obviously utter bullshit.

    • @deaansugee
      @deaansugee 10 років тому +37

      See my point, guys?

    • @ArtemGoutsoul
      @ArtemGoutsoul 10 років тому +21

      So you prefer not to see the difference?

    • @deaansugee
      @deaansugee 10 років тому +25

      Artem Goutsoul These protests were instigated by the halving of pensions, and inane crippling of salaries, as the guy in the video said.

    • @ArtemGoutsoul
      @ArtemGoutsoul 10 років тому +17

      Dejan Andric
      Which was done by Yanukovich and his family. Same thing is going to happen in Russia in near future, since even the Russian officials admit that the economy is stagnating possibly going into recession.
      Economic reasons are not a good reason to join another country. If it's economic, then you just protest against the economic issues, vote for a different government or take a train and move.
      The only reason for separation is if the central government somehow discriminates, against you. However that obviously wasn't happening. It's the opposite: Donetsk was always receiving subsidies from the central government. Current government policies didn't even have time to have any effect yet. It will take at least a year to notice any difference. All of the current problems are still the legacy of the previous government. The ex-president was actually from Donetsk region. Most the people in Donetsk voted for him.

  • @inthefade
    @inthefade 10 років тому +14

    Nice pan down at her perfectly manicured finger nails as she says they've suffered greatly in Ukraine.

    • @newmexicannightmare
      @newmexicannightmare 10 років тому +4

      And that huge ring!

    • @kickinghighify
      @kickinghighify 10 років тому +14

      You lot would like to see her beaten up and dressed in rags to qualify for "suffered greatly"?

    • @Umeshukitsune
      @Umeshukitsune 4 місяці тому

      14000 towns people were killed by the Ukrainians. You can lose people around you and still had nice things.

  • @user-hl7lm4yd2j
    @user-hl7lm4yd2j 10 років тому +4

    Я не перестаю удивляться. Первое моё удивление было, когда я увидел, что реально большинство в Крыму хотят в Россию. И не просто хотят, а готовы предпринимать реальные действия. а теперь Луганск и Донецк. Причём они организуются, создают структуры. Респект вам, ребята, и уважуха. Если решитесь до нашего шалашу ), будем вам рады. Только не ждите печенек, сначала вместе прийдётся горя хлебнуть. Никто в мире нам не простит поднятой головы.

  • @sergeibadmaev3403
    @sergeibadmaev3403 10 років тому +10

    VICE NEWS, make video from Lugansk! Please.

  • @BlondeManNoName
    @BlondeManNoName 10 років тому +8

    Great reporting from Vice, as always.

  • @anonymous8324
    @anonymous8324 6 років тому +10

    Просто супер репортажи, огромное спасибо.

  • @MMPublishingInc
    @MMPublishingInc 10 років тому +7

    tremendous job of reporting on the scenario in Ukraine, thank you!

    • @josephstaubsr.952
      @josephstaubsr.952 10 років тому

      WE SHOULD STAY OUT OF IT THEY ARE MOSTLY RUSSIAN ANYWAY AND WERE BEFOR W.W. TWO THEY WILL SEE WHEN ALL THEIR RIGHTS ARE GONE ?? RUSSIA WILL DO WHAT THEY WANT SO THEY MIGHT AS WELL BEND OVER FOR THE DICTATOR OR K.G.B. COL. SORRY FOR THEM. JOSEPH

  • @dom40864
    @dom40864 10 років тому +2

    Some pretty cool defenses they have there

  • @WorldsGameOfficial
    @WorldsGameOfficial 10 років тому +10

    VICE News, you fucking rock.

  • @lilmatty993
    @lilmatty993 10 років тому +12

    its easy for people in the comments sections to pick a side, but unless you live in the situation where these people do then you have no clue what you're on about. I dont blame Eastern Ukraine to want to be part of Russia, and i dont blame the rest of Ukraine not wanting to let them go. Its a real shit fight and i dont know how its going to be solved.

    • @boggisthecat
      @boggisthecat 10 років тому +4

      Federalising Ukraine seems sensible to me. I was surprised that Ukraine was not a Federation -- it has a large population and some obvious regional divisions in economy and culturally.
      A lot depends on how Kiev reacts to the protests in the Russia-leaning parts of Ukraine. They could trigger a civil war (that Russia would almost certainly intervene decisively in), so they should be extremely cautious. It may now be too late to hold the remaining regions together in a unified state, the damage having been done by earlier bad decisions. (Crimea is gone -- even the most anti-Russian Western media have given up on the "invasion" argument.)

    • @bullshitdepartment
      @bullshitdepartment Рік тому

      wise words. rare to find such people around here.

    • @bullshitdepartment
      @bullshitdepartment Рік тому

      @@boggisthecat Civil war was triggered. Russia didn't step in for some reason directly. Sad stuff

    • @zvonoc-80
      @zvonoc-80 5 місяців тому

      ​@@boggisthecat Федерализацию и жить без проблем можно было ещё при подписании Минских соглашений и выполнив их а не доводят восток Украины до состояния что совсем не хотят с Украиной. Теперь уже поздно.

    • @boggisthecat
      @boggisthecat 5 місяців тому

      @@zvonoc-80
      Yes, I understand that. My original comment was 9 years ago, after Crimea had been retaken by the Russian Federation. Kyiv started out with the smart idea of being the go-between of Russia and the EU, but that depended on maintaining stability within a country with multiple identities. Russia has been largely successful at maintaining the balance between local autonomy and national unity - ‘Russia is a nation of multiple religions and cultures’. Ukraine, especially following US interference in 2004 then 2014, has pursued a lie that they are ‘one people’ - and those who do not fit that lie are persecuted.
      Ukraine is now a lost cause for the US. The intended strategy to cripple Russia economically failed spectacularly, and they were unable to meet even the minimal military requirements of Kyiv to fight Russian forces. The US is already pushing the Baltic states to crack down further on their Russian populations. That will inevitably pressure Moscow to become more involved in that region. The ‘long game’ is still going, and the US will be willing to wreck all of Europe in an attempt to pull down Russia. I don’t understand how they really believe they are in a position to also bring down China. Empires typically descend into madness before they finally fall.

  • @harryfeng7231
    @harryfeng7231 10 років тому +3

    0:35 you can hear the Internationale playing in the background

  • @britvroman
    @britvroman 10 років тому +8

    East Ukrainian region of Donbas also known as Donets Basin used to be Russian lands. Entire Donbas Region (East Ukraine) was a part of Russia back in the day. People in Donetsk (Donbas region) used to be ethnic Russians but when Donetsk and other cities from Donbas region that got transferred to Ukraine people of Russian ethnicity eventually got mixed up with ethnic Ukranians. Now people in Donbas region identify themselves as Ukranians, but the Russian mentality and heritage still lives strong in them and that's why they want to be closer to Russia.

    • @snooperbob
      @snooperbob 10 років тому

      Well if that's how we decided borders than the entire western part of Russia should go back to Germany and Italy should have all of Western Europe. After all those lands belonged to them for hundreds of years.

    • @snooperbob
      @snooperbob 10 років тому

      britvroman Prussia dumb ass. Look it up.

    • @snooperbob
      @snooperbob 10 років тому

      britvroman Prussia doesn't exist anymore you dumb shit. It was dissolved in 1948. Why are you people so dumb.

    • @britvroman
      @britvroman 10 років тому +2

      snooperbob
      You sound so angry kid, did your mommy take too much for your basement rent this month? Yes obviously Prussia doesn't exist today, thank you for stating the obvious dumby.

    • @TheRealXartaX
      @TheRealXartaX 10 років тому

      snooperbob
      I wouldn't say Prussias border includes parts of Russia. It borders the old USSR's borders, sure, but not todays Russia. It stops around where Lithuania is located.

  • @dragilxcom4176
    @dragilxcom4176 2 роки тому +2

    I'm trying to learn the history as it continues until today. God bless you all, may the peace be with you.

  • @babayaga6321
    @babayaga6321 5 місяців тому +5

    Donetsk is finally Russia. 👌

  • @1MuchButteR1
    @1MuchButteR1 10 років тому +5

    In Lithuania we have only 4% Russians, thank god... our resistance soldiers stopped them from settling in Lithuania during soviet occupation.

    • @user-py9cy1sy9u
      @user-py9cy1sy9u 10 років тому

      Tautinė Lietuvos gyventojų sudėtis pagal 2011 m. Statistikos Departamento duomenis:
      rusai - 5,8 % (176,9 tūkst.)
      They did not die for nothing. There is worse situation in Latvia

  • @ldrslucas
    @ldrslucas 10 років тому +15

    Great job Vice, it’s remarkable that you’ve been able to get to Donetsk on such short notice, as soon as it became the center of attention.
    Let’s see what happens next....

    • @odar9729
      @odar9729 Рік тому

      War and full circle to the same problem but 70,000 less people. It won’t stop simple bc both sides won’t believe each other’s no matter if they get every country involved, no trust

    • @user-th4ot2dc1u
      @user-th4ot2dc1u 7 місяців тому +1

      Посмотрели????? А теперь и у вас это будет!!!!

  • @797brm
    @797brm 10 років тому +1

    Wow I've been watching a lot of these Dispatches and one thing is quite clear, tires must grow on trees, if not where do they get all those darn tires?

  • @user-mu1oj1sk8r
    @user-mu1oj1sk8r 10 років тому +8

    хоть кто-то на Западе начинает правду говорить, про то что на Украине происходит!

  • @elenadiaz6312
    @elenadiaz6312 Рік тому +23

    Finally, 8 years later and so many dead the people of LDPR are their way to liberate their homes from the Ukrainian nazi menace. You have fought bravely. 🇷🇺🐻💪💪💪

    • @test-qz4dq
      @test-qz4dq Рік тому +2

      The Nazis of today are from RuSSia

    • @owenthomas5103
      @owenthomas5103 9 місяців тому +2

      Do you guys even know what the wors you use mean? Its ironic for someone defending the imperialistic, race based conquest of an area by a genocidal dictator to call anyone else nazi

  • @MrPainseeker
    @MrPainseeker 10 років тому +10

    Ukraine... what did you do to you half of your people?

    • @HardmanAudio
      @HardmanAudio 10 років тому +9

      let russians in :(

    • @clouster75
      @clouster75 10 років тому

      Dale Redping Ukraine was russian land since dawn of times.

    • @numkie
      @numkie 10 років тому +12

      clouster75 No it wasn't.

    • @Waithuhh
      @Waithuhh 10 років тому +7

      clouster75 .......... Ignorance...........

    • @HardmanAudio
      @HardmanAudio 10 років тому

      clouster75
      No I believe it's been known as "the ukraine" for quite a few years now

  • @Kaiserohnepurpur
    @Kaiserohnepurpur 2 роки тому +49

    Those who say "Russia should respect the Ukrainian people's self-agency" (meaning they can be pro-EU, pro-US), should also say "Ukraine should respect the self-agency of its people who no longer wished to be part of Ukraine."

    • @MrPeterPan
      @MrPeterPan Рік тому +3

      True

    • @Self_Sabotage87
      @Self_Sabotage87 Рік тому +2

      Jesus, they dont have international or ukrainian right to separate. Only all nation can decide what will be with one or another region of their country.

    • @tjumok5186
      @tjumok5186 Рік тому

      @@Self_Sabotage87 They have one since 2008

    • @kaspadd5760
      @kaspadd5760 Рік тому +1

      Your youtube nick picture says everything we need know. Old ass commie xdd

    • @dawgdayz4884
      @dawgdayz4884 Рік тому +6

      Move to Russia

  • @ShiekYerbooty
    @ShiekYerbooty 10 років тому +18

    It seems that Russia is far more popular than the propaganda spinners would have us think

    • @usajagfan
      @usajagfan 10 років тому +5

      You find it a shock that Russians support Russia? These people are ethnic Russians. Its the NON Russians that are against Russia

    • @snooperbob
      @snooperbob 10 років тому +1

      What makes you think that? It looks like there's only about a few hundred people at most protesting which makes sense since the vast majority of Eastern Ukraine wants to stay in Ukraine, they just want reforms.

  • @vaska1999
    @vaska1999 10 років тому +17

    Why is this called "the invasion of Ukraine"?!

    • @vaska1999
      @vaska1999 10 років тому +10

      Luis Sanchez The US has thousands upon thousands of troops in various European countries (whose populations don't want those American bases and soldiers there), yet we don't call that an invasion. [Perhaps we should.] But that's exactly how the Russian soldiers in Ukraine happen to be there: Ukraine and Russia have a military treaty that entitles Russia to post up to 25,000 troops anywhere in Ukraine.
      For some reason, our MSM (but also Vice News, apparently) don't want us to know that.

    • @acecase25
      @acecase25 10 років тому +12

      Vaska Tumir We have troops on military bases in those countries, and they gladly let us in there. We pay them rent, and local business owners get a boost to sales.

    • @ClutchNixon
      @ClutchNixon 10 років тому +10

      Vaska Tumir
      Is that right? Your problem is, you have the foreign affairs knowledge of an average north korean citizen. I don't blame you Vaska, but your russian president.

    • @HardmanAudio
      @HardmanAudio 10 років тому +3

      probably because of the foreign troops invading ukraine

    • @trupoed17
      @trupoed17 10 років тому +3

      Dale Redping only in your paranoid imagination

  • @Slavic_Fury
    @Slavic_Fury 10 років тому

    really enjoy and appreciate your vids simon...good luck and don't get killed.

  • @vodkahd-6012
    @vodkahd-6012 10 років тому

    The video is so short :(

  • @LeftWingNationalist
    @LeftWingNationalist Рік тому +22

    People in every region globally should have the democratic right to self determination under United Nations law. Let people vote. Have UN and OSCE observers and respect the results. I'm against Russia invasion of Ukraine but I believe DPR and LPR are justified in defending their oblasts from Ukraine.

    • @test-qz4dq
      @test-qz4dq Рік тому +3

      All pro ukrainians have been beaten Up or dissapeared in those "russian" Regions.

    • @owenthomas5103
      @owenthomas5103 9 місяців тому +1

      Yes they should have self determination and RUSSIA needs to let that happen instead of sending milita, driving out all the opposition they can, holding faked referendums then trying to conquer them.
      As things stood in the last fare election the majority voted for pro-ukrain partys

    • @zvonoc-80
      @zvonoc-80 5 місяців тому

      А когда ЛНР и ДНР были против АТО и входа в состав Украины и тем более с таким режимом вы были такого мнения, или это сейчас политика Зеленского. И теперь против вторжения России в Украину. Какого было и сейчас городам Донбасса и Луганска ещё захваченных и обстреливаемых Украиной. Ещё территории Донбасса не освобождены наверное в курсе.

  • @antipod1875
    @antipod1875 10 років тому +7

    Дайте людям провести референдум если они этого хотят. Скорее всего не хватит голосов за присоединение к России. Если бы там было много за, то людей на площади было бы больше. Да, есть там желающие, думающие что в России будет мед и сказка, но их все же меньше. Да и Россия на самом деле не особо то и планирует присоединение Донбаса. Это уже четко показано. Но если со стороны антиконституционной хунты в Киеве начнется резня, то России уже придется просто защищать людей от смерти.

  • @Sneyersable
    @Sneyersable 10 років тому +1

    Спасибо за информацию, Симон!

  • @atikin17
    @atikin17 10 років тому +1

    And why are these 5 min clips Simon make them longer by the way I saw Simon on the Russian news channel he was lurking around I was cracking up

  • @LuiFenty
    @LuiFenty 10 років тому +37

    Venezuela with Ukraine. Fight for your liberty.

    • @PaulTheDawg
      @PaulTheDawg 10 років тому +23

      That's exactly what they're doing.
      The West destroyed their country with their usual shit.
      Divide and conquer tactics, whole country is led to civil war, banksters need to fund some more wars and instill chaos before they move in as saviours with their unbearable loans that will enslave everyone in Ukraine for decades, maybe even centuries.
      People want a referendum, they want to vote on what they think is best for them.
      That's what Democracy was about, letting the people decide for their own future.
      I know it's hard for Westerners to perceive a concept where you actually forge your own future, but it can be done.

    • @winnipoh3733
      @winnipoh3733 10 років тому +15

      Fuck off you trolling piece of shit, Venezuela with Chavez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @LuiFenty
      @LuiFenty 10 років тому +9

      Chavez is dead. So is what he left behind..

    • @gaikokugo1
      @gaikokugo1 10 років тому +5

      Lui Fenty
      Say Hi to your CIA handler, his salary is payed by my taxes

    • @LuiFenty
      @LuiFenty 10 років тому +9

      Hahaha I love how every time people criticize the Venezuelan government, someone comes out and blames the CIA... Yeah, because the CIA hires kids like me to post their opinions on youtube.. grow up.

  • @NemtYT
    @NemtYT 10 років тому +5

    Donetsk has some great shopping also. Maybe Simon can buy pants that fit him.

  • @homefly150
    @homefly150 10 років тому +2

    Amazing coverage, vice is my only source for international news...Only the truth!!

  • @inasatok
    @inasatok 3 роки тому +1

    Ngl, Verdansk looks good with this new graphic.

  • @MMOStein
    @MMOStein 10 років тому +9

    Well I guess the Ukrainians are basically like "fuck it lets just join Russia anyways..."

    • @LordLebu
      @LordLebu 10 років тому +6

      They are afraid because Kiev is in shit state, and anti Russian elements have taken over in the capital.

    • @leostomicek
      @leostomicek 10 років тому +5

      Ukraine is an artificial entity which people have no loyalty to. The place in the video was Russia long before it was Ukraine.

    • @leostomicek
      @leostomicek 10 років тому

      ***** They said majority of Crimeans are against this.

    • @bohdanmartak
      @bohdanmartak 10 років тому

      LordLebu But the previous government was anti-ukrainian, did you know that? Some nationalists came to power but really they don't have much authority. All that hysteria about "anti-russian elements" is spread by Kremlin which panics because it loses the grip over Ukraine after pro-russian Yanukovitch was overthrown.

    • @leostomicek
      @leostomicek 10 років тому

      Bohdan Martak The previous government was not anti-Ukrainian. Tell me one anti-Ukrainian thing they have done.

  • @keffie909
    @keffie909 10 років тому +6

    The comments here are even more a mess than the situation there...

  • @806004282
    @806004282 10 років тому +2

    Holy Shit....This situation just keeps getting crazier and crazier....

  • @ChristopherJones16
    @ChristopherJones16 4 роки тому

    props to the camera man 00:27 he always seems to be in the right place at the right time. You know they weren't editing out those few frames.

  • @Satakarnak
    @Satakarnak 10 років тому +13

    I like vice.and it seams like thay like vice to. Vice est veritas

    • @thethreeamazingmen
      @thethreeamazingmen 10 років тому +1

      because vice dont bullshit too much, unlike other outlets

    • @kickinghighify
      @kickinghighify 10 років тому +3

      This is THE FIRST objective report in the whole "Russian roulette" series...

    • @Satakarnak
      @Satakarnak 10 років тому

      kickinghighify i wold say that theay have bean objektiv the whole time thay have intervued pepole that whants to speack thay whanted to talk to the russian soldiers but thaty wold not talk

    • @kickinghighify
      @kickinghighify 10 років тому

      Disagree, this episode is objective reporting as to what's happening on the ground with no pro-independence forces or pro-maidan agenda where before it was obviously one sided as Russians - occupants, disregarding that to 90% of population of Crimea they were liberators. P.S. Russian soldiers clearly had orders not to make any comments, can't blame them.

  • @kloddyy
    @kloddyy 10 років тому +5

    Никогда запад и восток не был одной страной. Можно возмущаться, психовать, троллить... Но никогда западная Украина и Восточная Украина не была единой страной по определению! Восток и Крым тупо престегнули к Украине и в этом вся проблема и для Запада и для Востока. Если кто-то думает что Украина едина, то пусть ответит почему Киевская хунта так сильно боится референдума????

  • @deanc2000
    @deanc2000 10 років тому

    Can you do a report from Lugansk?

  • @koro741
    @koro741 5 років тому

    3:19 name of the song ?

  • @MrGesoon
    @MrGesoon 9 років тому +3

    Я думаю что вас туда пустили только потому что перепутали название Life Nevs и Vice News, слишком созвучно поэтому вам повезло.
    В любом случае молодцы, что вещаете про Украину, ибо то что я увидел на вашем канале, по тв не показывали, рад что международное сообщество поддерживает Украину и показывает правду.
    Спасибо Саймон за всю работу которую ты проделал, никто не смог побывать там где побывал ты.
    Респект!

  • @Plissken68
    @Plissken68 10 років тому +4

    Going to take more than 150 Greystone mercenaries to put down this unrest in Donetsk.

  • @Undecim33
    @Undecim33 10 років тому

    Mah meng Simon!! Thumbs up budd!!

  • @theangrychairman
    @theangrychairman 10 років тому +2

    This shit is mad crazy yo!

  • @combatspor
    @combatspor 10 років тому +5

    SUPPORT TO DONETSK PEOPLE.

  • @Valkyri3Z
    @Valkyri3Z 10 років тому +4

    It is not Ukraine's obligation to maintain the kind of relationship that Russia wants. On the contrary, Ukraine has the right to maintain a relationship with Russia that Ukraine wants. This is like a jealous husband who still can not get over her wife who have left him !

  • @daystarz91
    @daystarz91 10 років тому +1

    That jacket should be like a symbol of simon :D

  • @ares106
    @ares106 10 років тому

    Here we go again!

  • @bomjahed
    @bomjahed Рік тому +7

    It's all ogre now🥂

  • @honzarox
    @honzarox 10 років тому +10

    Isnt this the exact same thing the people in Kiev did? Why is that ok and this isnt?

    • @0cards0
      @0cards0 10 років тому

      cuz those ppl are for a dictator

    • @adamklam1
      @adamklam1 10 років тому +5

      because those people don't agree with young Americans who hate Russia ( and basically all of the non-western world)

    • @Ooof70
      @Ooof70 10 років тому +1

      adamklam1 Young Americans don't hate Russia. There is a girl from Russia that goes to the same college as I do, and she is treated with respect here. I've never met anyone who hated Russia under the age of 60.

  • @AsifMahmoodAbbas
    @AsifMahmoodAbbas 10 років тому +1

    22 dispatch in one go!
    Thanks VICE!

  • @stylz1
    @stylz1 10 років тому +1

    Wait for it...wait for it...

  • @MatthewZmusician209
    @MatthewZmusician209 10 місяців тому +10

    Man look at all those people expressing their belief to be independent or join Russia. And Ukraine attacked them for this? And Russia is bad for attacking Ukraine ?😂

    • @owenthomas5103
      @owenthomas5103 9 місяців тому +2

      No, ukrain don't attack them for this, Russia used them as an excuse to conqure more and more land znd ukrain fought back

    • @jacqdanieles
      @jacqdanieles 9 місяців тому +1

      Don't be a simpleton. In any country, an armed rebellion & seccession is treason & is dealt with force. And these idiots compounded that treason by colluding with a foreign government that manipulated them.

    • @mattcannon8467
      @mattcannon8467 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@jacqdanieleswhat you have described is exactly what happened in Maidan before this. Do you think the people of Donbass chose to rise up for no reason? They were being blamed for Ukraine's problems and laws were being passed that were going to affect their way of life. They had a decision to either embrace Bandera or fight for what their ancestors did 70 years ago.

    • @jacqdanieles
      @jacqdanieles 9 місяців тому +1

      @@mattcannon8467 load of horse manure gaslighting.
      Maidan was a result of protests that the pootin puppet government tried to extinguish with force. It then snowballed into a revolution.
      Donbas was a clear instigation & proxy war waged by ruzzia. After annexing Crimea, Ruzzian FSB & GRU infiltrators like Igor Girkin were on the ground in Donbas in early 2014 organizing, arming, & funding a fake separatist movement that was sold to the world as an organic separatist movement.
      All of that has been documented in this series. Yet you still make up sh1t.

    • @dirka_dirka_mohammedalijihad
      @dirka_dirka_mohammedalijihad 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@jacqdanieles please, link to the claims you are making. I've watched this whole series a few times and from what I can tell, USA was caught plotting the coup. There's phone calls that were recorded. Biden can literally say anything and people will believe him. Like the pipeline being blown up. You gonna deny he had anything to do with that?

  • @mick71ification
    @mick71ification 10 років тому +3

    if the people of the Ukraine wish to be reunited with Russia , who are we to say no. If America lost texas in a similar fashion what would we do? what would we want ? At the end of the day this has absolutely fuck -all to do with our nation (the u.s.) and we should really be more worried about our own domestic issues.

  • @atikin17
    @atikin17 10 років тому +2

    Best episode

  • @6996yomama
    @6996yomama 10 років тому +2

    This is stupid, it's like the people in New York wanting to join Italy, people in Massachusetts wanting to join the UK, Mexican people joining Spain, or Brazilians joining Portugal. Just because you're a certain ethnicity doesn't give you a right to change an entire government about it.

  • @TheRedemptionRain
    @TheRedemptionRain 10 років тому +16

    After seeing the comment section of these Russians, I must say that Germany has the right to invade Poland as long as their is a larger German population then the Polish population in Poland, am I correct?

    • @Cosmo1093
      @Cosmo1093 10 років тому +12

      No, Germany must first starve-to-death or exile the native population (i.e. ethnically cleanse the area) before they have a valid claim to the land. You know, like what the USSR and modern-day Russia did or are doing. Then and only then is the ethnic majority a legitimate argument for invasion or annexation!

  • @malicboba
    @malicboba 9 місяців тому +13

    Very brave people in Donetsk. 🇷🇺

    • @kingkaijugaming2841
      @kingkaijugaming2841 5 місяців тому +1

      You must be talking about putins cannon fodder

    • @derfater5979
      @derfater5979 4 місяці тому

      ​@@kingkaijugaming2841 Bro, 100%

  • @keral3069
    @keral3069 7 років тому +2

    Those guys didin't new that this is the beginning of a civil war...

  • @ernestohernandez8526
    @ernestohernandez8526 10 років тому +1

    why you guys taking so long to upload this news