Is Your TWST Fave Naughty or Nice?

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  • @acatstudios8853
    @acatstudios8853 Місяць тому +152

    Grim got on the naughty list so we could have coal for our fireplace

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +34

      Ah the big brain play~ Very smart indeed

    • @acatstudios8853
      @acatstudios8853 Місяць тому +17

      @ can only expect the best from the greatest mage after all

  • @illusional8846
    @illusional8846 Місяць тому +156

    yk you're extra naughty when people who unintentionally tried to take over the world are still on the nice list

  • @the.fairyonearth
    @the.fairyonearth Місяць тому +117

    Cackling over Octavinelle being NAUGHTY, NAUGHTIER, NAUGHTIEST
    It’s so accurate I couldn’t have expected anything less from my favourite fish mafia

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +15

      @@the.fairyonearth Those three really define the category don't they lol?

  • @Taurismh
    @Taurismh Місяць тому +138

    Of course u made Rook Santa, considering he knows when youre awake or asleep

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +31

      Rook absolutely knows if you've been good~ You can't never escape his gaze lol

  • @Twistedwonderlandismylife
    @Twistedwonderlandismylife Місяць тому +64

    Not surprised the the fish mafia were naughty lol I laughed so hard

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +6

      Glad you enjoyed that bit~

  • @acatstudios8853
    @acatstudios8853 Місяць тому +63

    Tbf, Floyd deals with mood swings and finds it very difficult to engage with others without being the confrontational type. And he’s seen how Azul eating disorder has affected him in the past and always checks up on people he cares about to get them to eat….
    And Jade….takes care of terrariums
    And azul is one of the only people who Idia can socialize with. Showing that he’s created a comfortable space for him within the board game club

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +23

      They for sure have good qualities, this is true~ I've just seen them collectively being naughty more often than not.

  • @ciaragleeson4328
    @ciaragleeson4328 Місяць тому +59

    I wouldn’t be surprised if when Azul, Jade and Floyd were little mer-kids they were always plotting to get Santa in contract. 😅

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +15

      Aw that's actually kinda cute~ I can for sure imagine Azul's letters proposing a deal of sorts to get whatever it is he wants from Santa since he doesn't want to be indebted.

  • @Onest00p1d_vampire
    @Onest00p1d_vampire Місяць тому +38

    Peepaw may be a menace but he's just so dang sweet! (Food war crimes aside) Also knowing his backstory, I do think he deserves to be on the nice list
    I also can't help but giggle at the fact that Pomefiore are 3 for 3 nice list contenders while Octavinelle's the unholy trinity of naughty (though I would say Jade is worse than Floyd)

    • @AlexielHellsing2
      @AlexielHellsing2 Місяць тому +9

      I agree he gave up so much for Briar Valley and never got thanked for it.

    • @juliarivera6071
      @juliarivera6071 Місяць тому +7

      the duality of the purple dorms lmao

    • @AlexielHellsing2
      @AlexielHellsing2 Місяць тому +3

      @@Onest00p1d_vampire I really have to say that if Vil did go through with the attempted murder on Neige LeBlanch then the apple juice would have made Epel and his family take the fall due to association so no I don’t think Vil should be on the nice list. Attempted murder and framing. Not Nice.

  • @evilfloydleech
    @evilfloydleech Місяць тому +15

    the octavinelle segment made me laugh, it fits so well lol! absolute cinema /ref

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +2

      I'm quite glad you enjoyed it~

  • @AlexielHellsing2
    @AlexielHellsing2 Місяць тому +11

    Okay I have to defend Lilia, see he gave his whole life to make sure Malleus hatched (200 years), he gave him all his love and magic and raised 2 boys and trained one. He lost friends and someone he loved very much during the Silver Owls conflict. The happiest moment of his life was Malleus hatching, so happy he cried. What's more pure than being happy someone survived a potential life threatening situation. He's prankish, doesn't cook very well but he puts his heart into making sure his friends and loved ones are happy. I think he should go on the nice list.

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому

      @@AlexielHellsing2 Extremely fair points!

  • @iamaperson5580
    @iamaperson5580 Місяць тому +38

    I am pretty sure Malleus would be on the naughty list. As much as people like him, just imagine being in-universe. He is known to electrocute/threaten students for small things that sometimes only he sees as a problem. He also does not put the effort into actually understanding others because of his own biases. It is like saying, "I don't get why they are mad at getting punched, I would be fine if someone punched me." That just does not fly. So, he threatens students, kidnaps, and nearly gets people killed. He also loves to complain about no one wanting to invite him to things when he pushed others away first. Yes, he has good aspects, but his bad traits overshadow his good ones (also I doubt people would be afraid of Malleus because he is the Prince of the Briar Valley as they do not seem to really care about these things, Malleus likely keeps doing things to scare people).

    • @kalindhiseneviratne8247
      @kalindhiseneviratne8247 Місяць тому +4

      True. He's the kind that would land on the Naughty list for a year or two, before he puts in any actual effort to change.

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +4

      Those are absolutely fantastic points~ Malleus has a lot of growing up to do and as he stands he really is much more naughty than nice. I intended his, and a few of the other sections, to be bits more than researched arguments. Malleus's in particular is much more sarcastic as his actions throughout the game have been, and continue to be, less than stellar regardless of motive.

  • @cherriesz
    @cherriesz Місяць тому +9

    I'm sorry Santa... but Sebeks on the nice list for me.
    While Sebek does have quite a few negative traits that were listed, such as being loud and overbearing, as well as his name calling towards humans, he genuinely means the best towards the people he looks up to most, Malleus and Lilia. This is seen most prevelantly in his hard-work, his dedication to studying and training to be the best guard to his liege.
    Furthermore, many of the characters in twst are cunning and deceitful, but Sebek is always honest even if he can be stubborn. If he doesn't like what you did, he will tell you, and if he finds you talented, he will praise you, even if you are human (as seen in some vignettes). He makes his intentions fully clear every time.
    His honesty is seen additionally in his truthfulness to himself. Sebek is, to put it plainly, passionate. He is passionate in his interests; reading, training, and Malleus, yet also, his emotions. He smiles brightly when he's happy, pouts and furrows his brows when he's angry, and gets tears in his eyes when he's moved. Personally, I think that being able to show your emotions loud and proud is such a good characteristic that many (especially twst characters) don't have.
    Finally, Sebek is just adorable (This is totally objective and not subjective)
    While he is very loud and can often fail to see how his actions can affect others, I don't think there's a naughty bone in him. Sebek is truly a hardworking, genuine, and passionate boy. (also he would cry and call himself a failure if he got on the naughty list and I just can't let that happen to my oshi ❤)
    (also sorry for the rant I just love Sebek so much. I could have gone on but I decided it probably would be best to not get too long + merry Christmas if you've read to the end! 🎄)

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +1

      With such passion I'm sure Santa could be swayed~ Plus you do bring up a lot of good characteristics that Sebek has that often get overlooked (including by me) but they are important to consider and flesh out his character well. Thank you for the enlightening rant

  • @crossemerald5597
    @crossemerald5597 29 днів тому +3

    I will love to read a fanfic of how the TWST cast reacts their places in Naughty and Nice list lol

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  29 днів тому

      Oh that'd be pretty fun! I have a feeling in it the lounge might see a Glorious Masquerade part 2...

    • @TiaAngell
      @TiaAngell 28 днів тому +2

      I’m already trying to write A Grinch Stealing the Starsending, Don’t give me more ideas 😭😆 But on the other hand……Yuu introducing Christmas to each of the characters by dressing up as Santa and gifting presents by making their own Naughty/Nice list is something I cannot resist writing

  • @leficus9023
    @leficus9023 Місяць тому +8

    Oh i would say my boy Lilia deserves to be on the nice list, his sense of humour is just a bit special, he’s the sweetest menace 🥰 never would he do it viscious intentions
    Merry Christmas to you too, and happy holidays to everyone 💝🌟

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +3

      @leficus9023 If I wasn't factoring in food sins so heavily Lilia would have made the nice list for sure lol~
      Merry Christmas to you as well ❤️

  • @yuri-sama.questionmark
    @yuri-sama.questionmark Місяць тому +8

    OMG EPEL NICE LIST - Now I wanna give bro some apple stuff as a Christmas gift.

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому

      @@yuri-sama.questionmark I'm sure he'd love it~

  • @Crystal-lz6bm
    @Crystal-lz6bm Місяць тому +7

    (This is mostly said in jest) Jamil should go on the nice list if Vil gets to. Look, Jamil was also there to help when they saved the world. And with the whole "he's lying by getting bad grades", it's canonical that he does it because he's expected to do worse than Kalim because of the master-servant relationship. That's not his fault, and is literally part of the reason he went off the deep end in his arc. Sure, Jamil isn't an angel, but his circumstances should give him leeway.

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +4

      You do make a good argument there, and the context is important for sure! That part was thrown in as a last minute justification tbh, and I do think a being like Santa would probably factor context in, but even though it's out of Jamil's control it's also doing damage to Kalim since he never has to face failure. In a more objective sense it'd be Kalim's father on the naughtiest of naughty lists for forcing all of these things to happen to the two of them.

  • @koebi2507
    @koebi2507 Місяць тому +3

    Silver does no wrong MY BABY BOY IS FOREVER A GOOD BOY

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +1

      He's a very good bean :)

  • @TheSnowconeMachine
    @TheSnowconeMachine Місяць тому +5

    Okay, gotta fight you on Rook, Malleus and Lilia's placements. The road to hell is paved with good intentions- good intentions does not make someone nice. Rook is a stalker who invades people's privacy on the regular, even if he is not necessarily doing nefarious things because of it. He stalks Leona especially, despite Leona not wanting ANYTHING to do with him. He intentionally provoked Malleus in one of the vignettes. Not to mention... he got Rose banned from Tiktok xD
    Malleus may have been overwhelmed by grief, but he STILL created a worldwide crisis- and as others have pointed out, he's known to threaten people and shoot lightning when mad, and has not made much of any attempt to get to know humans aside from the MC.
    Lilia, however... he may be mischievous, but simply spooking others by popping out of nowhere because he is the nocturnal fey he is, is not worthy of the naughty list. though his cooking may violate the geneva conventions as chemical warfare, it is (usually) not done maliciously and he does not force anyone to eat his concoctions. Lilia should be on the nice list, dang it!

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +2

      Rook did what now?? I was unawares, poor Rose :(
      But yes, I agree with the points you've brought up and your arguments. Lilia's only crime was his bad cooking honestly, cause the pranks could go either way. However I think if I could give myself a bit of slack, the naughty and nice list as I've always understood it is a year by year basis thing that doesn't necessarily factor past actions into it. If it did, there would be no way for Lilia to ever be on the naughty side of things.
      Malleus and Rooks sections were both there for the bit mainly, but I'm loving all the discussion points being brought up because of them~ Although I think of the two it's easier to argue Rook either way because yes he has the worst stalking habits, but he's also directly responsible for negating two very major incidents, things that probably wouldn't have happened if he didn't have those awful bad habits. I suppose that doesn't quite negate his actions, as he keeps them up after those incidents, but it is an argument that could be made.

  • @ZephyrLucki
    @ZephyrLucki Місяць тому +4

    Another dead giveaway, Rook, Kalim, and Silver are based on heroes instead of villains, so it makes sense they’d make the nice list (Rook as the hunter can be slightly debatable, but he DID save Snow White’s life, so I guess he’s a hero)

    • @ZephyrLucki
      @ZephyrLucki Місяць тому +1

      Additionally, Rook always tries to see the beauty in everything, and he’s loyal to Vil. Unlike Kalim though, he isn’t oblivious and sets standards (like not letting Vil kill Neige), and he literally risks his life to save the OB victims

  • @kawaiilizzy8558
    @kawaiilizzy8558 Місяць тому +2

    Honestly, I just think idia just needs a cup of christmas cheer, is all.😅

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому

      @@kawaiilizzy8558 Probably lol~ I see him being thr type not to really care, but he'll make sure it's special if Ortho is super hype for it (which I imagine he would be)

  • @chloesantos8637
    @chloesantos8637 24 дні тому +1

    My fav being Azul & Ruggie & Ace: They are absolutely NOT on the nice list LMAO

  • @silentspirit8923
    @silentspirit8923 Місяць тому +2

    Merry Christmas, Sylv! 🎄

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +1

      Merry Christmas Spirit~!

  • @dianaandrews1677
    @dianaandrews1677 Місяць тому

    This is a fun video. Love it!
    Not really sure how Rook got on the nice list, even after those points. Rook does stalk people and is a bit creepy when it comes to it. And he does tell people he is watching others when he gets caught.

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому

      Glad you enjoyed it!
      Who's to say with Rook? Perhaps Santa felt some comradery from their mutual watching of folks? Who knows lol

  • @joeiwanko
    @joeiwanko Місяць тому

    octavinelle naughty, naughtier and naughtiest 😭😭😭

  • @DReivenn55
    @DReivenn55 Місяць тому +2

    Make your case for your faves
    Me whose favorite is Azul: Actually, you are objectively correct no argument 😅

  • @magicvalgirl
    @magicvalgirl Місяць тому +2

    I hope everyone got at least a great gift this Christmas! I certainly did!

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +1

      @@magicvalgirl Oh fantastic~ Congrats on your gifts!

    • @magicvalgirl
      @magicvalgirl Місяць тому

      @sylvernoct thanks! Merry Christmas

  • @Lazybones_18
    @Lazybones_18 Місяць тому +2

    Merry Christmas!

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому

      Merry Christmas to you as well~

  • @mariem8666
    @mariem8666 27 днів тому

    Sebek my poor sweet crocodile son, on the naughty list for trying to be a good boy TOO HARD....... Imagine his devastation Christmas day upon getting coal in his stocking...

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  27 днів тому

      It may be a short lived heartbreak though once he finds out that Lilia also received coal as I doubt Sebek would let that slide. Glad you enjoyed the video~!

  • @firecatgaming4280
    @firecatgaming4280 Місяць тому +4

    Well, if we're really listing people, ruggie could barely make it on the nice list because he's doing all these schanagins to make money for his large family, which is an act of one of the seven heavenly virtues charity

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому

      @firecatgaming4280 That's a decent point to consider for sure~

  • @blackroseeeee
    @blackroseeeee Місяць тому +2

    Love this loll

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +1

      I'm glad you enjoyed~ :)

  • @prettyhatemachinexoxo
    @prettyhatemachinexoxo Місяць тому

    90% of the cast will definitely be in the naughty list 😭

  • @TheArtDoll
    @TheArtDoll 12 днів тому

    I definitely think that Malleus and Lilia should swap places. As mischievous as Lilia is and as bad as his cooking may be, I believe he has done too much good for both Malleus AND Silver to be condemned to the naughty list.
    MALLEUS on the other hand-
    Seriously though, even if he has no malicious intent behind his book seven plot, the man is STILL being way too selfish and destructive for someone of his caliber; you get extra naughty points when you’re so powerful that no one can stop you, I’m sorry but thems the rules. To the naughty list he goes.

  • @Jessica-jz3ss
    @Jessica-jz3ss 6 днів тому

    Just jokingly, from one gamer to another (me to Idia) I can confirm that he has committed heinous war crimes in online chats if him raging at a video game in his Dorm uniform vignette is any indication. The person on the other side of the screen has been verbally charred to carbon atoms (poor dude. Fs in the chat)

  • @moona-ot4dp
    @moona-ot4dp Місяць тому +2

    RIP Santa . Don’t think it’s a good idea for him to be on the tweels bad side (if he gives them coal)

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +1

      Fair enough, they probably would have all the means to wreck Santa's day if they really wanted to.

    • @TiaAngell
      @TiaAngell 28 днів тому +2

      If they get coal, they are just going to grill octopus tentacles to eat

  • @Animation-world-central
    @Animation-world-central Місяць тому

    Yay good job 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤

  • @mollyjayhedgehog6276
    @mollyjayhedgehog6276 Місяць тому +1

    I green to this list

  • @BacLettre-g7o
    @BacLettre-g7o Місяць тому +2

    I agree with your ranking but idia sure be on t'he naughty list if leona was put in the naughty list for doing nothing It only fair idia does to( i'm not trying to Say leona diserve to be on t'he nice list he'll no).
    I bursted out laught on t'he octavinelle i have a cures if being attaches to any Twins i any migdia i consume and tweels are no acception infortionatly i love them and azul direly but none if them diserve santa's gift

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +3

      @@BacLettre-g7o That is a fair point with Idia. I suppose in my head Leona is at least aware of things and intentionally ignores them, whereas Idia just isn't aware at all. Though I suppose that doesn't make Idia any less naughty lol.
      Yeah I love Octavinelle too~ I just couldn't let them get away with it this time haha

  • @diputston
    @diputston Місяць тому +1

    Your voice remind me of Rook

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  Місяць тому +1

      Oh really? How fun, thank you~

    • @TiaAngell
      @TiaAngell 28 днів тому +1

      For real I thought they were voice acting as Rook

  • @dalizaax
    @dalizaax 28 днів тому

    love the video but tbh im pretty sure vil malleus and idia should be naughty and lilia nice or am i just biaised lol

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  28 днів тому +1

      @@dalizaax I don't think you're being biased as I think there is a decent case to be made for each of them to swap for sure~

    • @dalizaax
      @dalizaax 28 днів тому

      @@sylvernoct i think so too! and btw may i suggest a video idea? :D I'd love to see your ranking of the main story books!!

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  28 днів тому +1

      @dalizaax You absolutely can! I'll get that idea added to my list :D

  • @Yxnneh
    @Yxnneh 3 дні тому

    why is the thumbnail clickbait (azul is NOT nice)

    • @sylvernoct
      @sylvernoct  3 дні тому +1

      @@Yxnneh Tis how youtube works

  • @saenekokun2723
    @saenekokun2723 Місяць тому

    Kalim on nice list! Yippee!!
    (sorry jamil lol)