Great video, well done! One suggestion though. You'd greatly improve your suction over those long runs if you were to replace those long rungs of corrugated hose with smooth PVC. Because a corrugated hose has so many bumps inside, every one of those little bumps acts like a speed bump for your airflow, and slows it down. I bet if you tried a little experiment by replacing just one of those long runs with PVC, you'll be pleasantly surprised by how much more suction you'll get. Another tip to increase your suction would be to eliminate all 90 degree angles in your fittings. You're far better off using Y fittings than you are with using T fittings. Every 90 degree angle greatly reduces airflow because the air first slams into a dead end at the bend in a T fitting, before then having to once again pick up momentum to travel on. A Y fitting eliminates this slamming into the inner walls of your fittings, and provides a much easier transition to the next length of pipe. Think of it as driving a car down the road, trying to maintain speed. When you come to a T in the road, you are slowed way down before making your 90 degree turn. Now compare that to a highway on ramp, which is essentially a Y in the road, when you can maintain your speed as you transition from one road to the other. Just a couple of suggestions if you feel the need to increase your suction.
The high speed of these videos is fantastic, and the little tricks are incredibly helpful. I don't feel like I'm going to live long enough to get through most DIYs... not so here.
That was the problem you noticed??? Nevermind the massive code violations of using an extension cord to run an outlet and switch, using zipties to attach them and not putting a cover over the receptacle.
A helpful hint: you can buy remote controlled "outlets" they plug into regular outlet then vac into it- remote on keychain on your belt- allows you to turn on-off from anywhere in shop
I'm currently building a system using 1.5" PVC, Since the system is sealed, and I'm using ball valves instead of blast gates, suction should be awesome. The only drawback is static build up, which can be cured with some metal screws put through the pipe wall and copper wire for ground. I have seen people put the wire inside the pipe, but I'm afraid of build up in a narrow pipe. The benefit is PVC is CHEAP! not the ball valves though.
@3:50 just an fyi tip...wrap your wire around the screw clockwise so when you tighten it up it grabs and pulls it tight. The way you did does work, but in my experience, it likes to push the wire out and can lead to loose wires in your box. Other than that, thanks for the great video!
I am just now becoming interested in woodworking. I am disabled and thought this would be a great way to pass the time. Dust collection is a big concern of mine so is shop safety. Years ago I worked as an electrician and was taught a few things that I noticed you did not do in your video. The first was to always wrap the wire around the terminal screws in the direction the threads tighten. This way when you tighten the screws you are pulling the wire tighter around the screw. The second thing I noticed was the end where the plug was located. It appears as if the exterior insulation is butted up against the base of the plug instead of inside the clamping area. This allows the wires to become exposed and possibly more prone to damage. Just a few personal observations otherwise, great video.
I think a few people mentioned this, but it's important enough that I want to reiterate: your live AC line that runs from the outlet to the switch under the table should be in conduit. It costs almost nothing to do, and it can protect you from the very real possibility of something cutting into the wire causing some variety of suckage.
Thank you for your video, I am planning a central dust system myself. I have the Dust Deputy cyclone and it works well. I would suggest finding as large a container as you can for it if you are planning on connecting it to a thickness planer, even a small bench top model. Them things make a LOT of chips! I have my cyclone on top of a large gear oil drum and still have to empty it frequently when planing a lot of boards. Also you can stick your shop vac hose into a trash bag full of chips and hold the bag opening around it closed to suck the air out. Then tie it really tight before it expands again. It will reduce the volume by at least two thirds.
One option for your remote switch, is a remote switch control. It's a device that plugs into the outlet then you plug the tool (in this case vacuum), light, whatever you want to power and a wireless fob controls the switch device. You can turn on your vac from anywhere in the shop. Home depot, Harbor Freight, Amazon, eBay, lots of places to find them. And these usually come in a pack of three so you can control three devices with one fob. Got 'email all over the house. Lights, fans, anything I wish had a remote, does.
You lied in the title! You showed a lot more than that, actually gave me all the ideas I needed to build an efficient system to let me build more! I call click bait! And a huge thanks!
I have explored this option a number of times for my own shop and have yet to come up with a solution that I really like. While this shop vac idea works just fine, be careful that your hoses don't get clogged or you will implode your bucket... easy enough to just replace the bucket if it happens but knowing that it can happen also helps to make sure you don't overload the hoses.
quick and easy set up I like that you showed this a lot of people think dust collection is for large shops that you work in everyday and that's not the case...
Nice job. Planning on a work table encorporating the dust collection under it. Like the floor cleaning idea. I have been electrician over 40 years. Wanted to suggest the wires bend in the direction of the tightening of the screw. This will draw the wire further under the screw, where bending the other way will push the wire out from under the screw. Of course I really go for a tight connection. Vibration of the tools could loosen the connections over time.
Some tips from an electricians apprentice You should only ever a 1/4” max of jacket in a box per NEC (you had a few inches) You should put your hooks on screw terminals clock wise so they tighten when you screw down the screw not loosen Pre twist pig tails (don’t rely on wire nuts) You ran more wire to the switch box than needed you could’ve just ran one 14/2 instead of two wires, using the neutral as a hot and re labeling it with a sharpie or electrical tape (you placed a wire nut on your neutrals)
This is fantastic. My "shop" is very much in its infancy right now. Your channel is so great! From the detailed explanations to the availability of the materials needed. Thanks and keep it up!
That white electrical cable looks like Romex or similar. It's solid-core, designed for use inside walls, where it never has to bend after being installed. That's why it's stiff. That also means *it will wear out and break pretty quickly (possibly leading to starting a fire) if you bend and unbend it a lot* (plugging into different outlets, coiling up, etc.). Appliance cords and extension cords are made of stranded wire, and are designed to last a long time with frequent bending.
Nice. I also used a Jet air filtration unit to filter fine dust out of the air. It's not cheap (like $300), but keeps air really clean and healthy and makes finishing less if a hassle. Also, you can buy a remote controlled outlet switch for your vac for like $20.
I have seen many of your videos and I loved them for the practical, well explained, in a language that as in my case a beginner can understand ... thank you very much for taking your time and teaching us who love the bricolage
Just wanted to say thank you for showing how to make a dust collector with a wet/dry vac. I just bought a new 18 Gallon vac for my work shop and for doing other things around the house. Thanks again.
I have the same Dust Deputy as yours. I had to get a metal can has the Home Depot buckets collapsed under the vacuum pressure. The metal buckets work great and solved the problem.
When attaching wire to screw terminals, wrap the wire around the screw in the direction the screw tightens. When you tighten the screw it'll pull the wire in rather than push it out.
Based upon how old some of the comments are I'm clearly very late in viewing this video but I'm so glad it popped up on my search for shop vac dust collection options! I just subscribed and am looking forward to watching more of your videos because I also love to make stuff!!!
Thanks Bob. You helped me solve two problems I have with my new shop. Now I will it be able to tackle this until I finish my "Honey Do List" but this is perfect in my new garage I built. Thanks again love the videos.
Very useful vid. I'll come back here once I'm ready to build my dust collection system and use your link. Appreciate the effort putting it together and sharing your tips and strategies for remembering the electrical stuff.
Thank you for just getting on with it and getting the ideas over. I learned more per second than most I’ve seen. I’m doing a version of this project. This helped heaps.
Great Video, and not that it matters but that blue box is not a remodel box. It is a new build box. A remodel box had little tabs that flip out as you tighten the screws. Love your channel. Great build. I am about to build my first shop.
Very nice work. Like what you did....you applied the K.I.S.S. Principle! Three questions: 1) How much suction power is lost with this type of system? 2) How much material, in the end, ends up in the main barrel? 3) Why do I see that Cyclone funnel all the time? Is there a DIY system that can be built? Thanks tons!
One small point Bob. Any directional change in dust collection systems should be made with the least possible flow resistance. Right angle changes reduces flow capacity. 👍
I am getting ready to build me a miter saw table. Saw you video for that, and now have a plan. Wanting to get a vac system for my shop and here you go. will buy the parts through your site. Thanks for the ideas. Will keep watching.
Great project--thanks for posting! I'm considering a dust collection set-up like this because my shop is small and I don't need a large system with extensive piping. Maybe put some small scrap wood spacers under the clamp strap holding the blast gate next to the wall. Note: the wires should wrap around the switch and outlet screws in the tightening (clockwise) direction.
Thanks for this its a great idea. One comment I used the plastic blast gates reccomended in this video. I find they clog too easy preventing the gates closing all the way even after a short amount of use . I have seen similar comments on Amazon. seemingly the metal ones are better but come at a higher price Love the great videos and channel!
Before I got my dust collector I had just the vacuum and cyclone hooked up to everything like this. Let me tell you this now before you go adding anymore to it, get rid of those plastic gates and make your own. Not just as an excuse to do a video on making your own gates, ha! They are terrible. They jam up and then won't close very easily. They leak like crazy. As soon as you have more than a few gates you lose most of your suction from all the leaking. Even now that I have a DC, I still have quite a few tools hooked up this way so it's a good investment for the future and not just a temporary solution until you get a better system later. The vacuum is better for things like a router table or spindle sander where it's restricted to a small opening at the tool.
krtwood Yeah, I had one of them clog up yesterday, so you're totally right. I've got some interesting plans for my system involving the gates, so it'll probably be worthwhile building my own sooner than later. Thanks!
Would it prevent clogging if the blast gates were installed with a vertical flow rather than horizontal flow? That way the dust is less likely to settle into the space where the slide operates. Of course, that does nothing for the leakage issue mentioned.
Wonderful project! I just ordered my DC today, so I'll be going through the same motion very soon as far as piping things in and wiring in switches. Your quick lesson on wiring was great. Weren't you planning on doing a circuit series? I would be really interested in watching that because you're a great teacher and electricity is something I would like to learn more about.
April Wilkerson Thanks April! Can't wait to see your DC setup! I assume you got a big collector? Which one did you get? I definitely plan on doing a Maker 101 episode on circuits, focusing on small electronics (DC wiring), but the principles are the same as AC wiring. It's going to be in the next month or two I think.
This was an excellent idea and I used it for a while. I’ve since moved to a 4” dust collection system. If someone in the Wash DC are is looking to build this system, I’m happy to pass along the parts (except my dust cyclone - which I still use).
Great ideas. I’ll be making a similar setup under the workbench. Maybe in a cabinet or removing the cabinet. Your project helps tie the parts together even the electric. Thanks.
Fantastic! You covered a lot of information on an important topic, and you somehow managed to cover all of the details in only a few minutes. Well done, sir. Thank you!
I don't mind the shop videos at all. I just started watching the channel and was wondering what happened to all the dust. Totally new at this, enjoyed the electrical.
I like your videos because you speed up the process. I hate long videos about people talking more than doing the things promised in the title. Congrats!
Good video, thanks.Yes, the hose and fitting sizes are frustrating. For my "system", I use standard 2" ABS pipe which is available everywhere (the black pipe used for house drain and vent plumbing). You can use straight 2" pipe to replace a lot of the flex hose, and all the tees and elbows just glue together. I glue the flex hose inside 2" couplings. Takes a bit of futzing, but it works well and I can just pick up fittings at the local hardware or home center.Like your videos, subscribed.
+Bill Wells I like your idea Bill. The Home Depot here does not have the 2" black pipe. The white it does have does not fit my vac hose. Also, did you incorporate the blast gates into your system? If so, did the 2" fit the 2" of the blast gate? This is frustrating
+Steven S. No, the 2" pipe does not fit the ShopVac hose, sorry I did not mention that. I ended up with many adapters, which I had to make. So I have quite a hodge-podge assortment of hoses (three sizes of hoses!) and couplings and fittings. No, I have not used blast gates. I just chase around with various lengths of hose, most of which will fit the cyclone separator I made out of a 12" diameter concrete form tube (at H.D.).
the easiest way to remember what side of your outlet is negative, is that the large polarized port on the left is your neutral and the smaller is your hot. when it comes to light switches, I know they aren't in this video, is with the screws on the right with the switch down means the switch is open( no throughput of power)
hey man.... just a thought for your storage bucket.... but maybe you want to cut a slot in the side of the bucket for a sight and then silicon either a piece of clear face shield or even a soda bottle to keep it cheap
Just discovered your channel. Well done. I like how you time-lapse everything so you can clearly see what you are doing, but it goes by quickly. Much like speed-reading. I have been looking into putting a much-needed dust collection system in my shop. Your method seems like a great solution. Looking forward to watching more of your content.
This is a really helpful video thanks a lot! Just ordered what I could through the links provided. Can’t wait to get this set up. Been playing around with this idea for about 6 months, time to pull the trigger
You should do a shop tour. :) I know its not really your type of video but I think it would be really cool to see what an experienced builder keeps on hand.
I have a problem with dust and all I have is a small table saw and a miter saw. I will try this. Thanks so much for this video that just might be what I need. Thanks again.
When you are wiring up the "extension cord with a switch" - you should ALWAYS have the wires wrap around the screws CLOCKWISE. That way, when you tighten the screw (righty-tighty), it pulls the wire into the connection. Alternatively, many switches and outlets now have small holes in the back - you strip the wire, just as you usually would, then just poke the wire into the hole and the connection is made (much quicker and simpler than wrapping wire around screws).
This is an awesome system! I am planning on building a portable version of this to add to my mobile workbench that I made. It will definitely be handy as the weather is starting to get colder, so I can work inside!
Hey Bob, I am an engineer that makes dust collection systems for larger shops. Something that I would recommend to you is (if you are finding that you are not getting enough suction) is two things; One would be to use metal straight pipe and as little as possible flex pipe too because flex pipe has a lot of resistance compared to metal duct (usually metal duct it is a bit heavier gauge than hvac systems but I digress) and the second would be to get a stronger collector (maybe more permanent or not). We generally use Oneida Air Systems for this (www.oneida-air.com/) on small projects (such as personal shops). They work really well. Anyways though, your video is really great.
This is one step closer to diy my kitchen vacuum dust collector. Thank you for sharing your ideas. I don’t want to spend the $ to buy a already made system.
now that I'm in the process of reorganizing my shop, I was thinking about building something very similar to this, and the floor sweep was something about which I didn't think! that will come in handy for sure
Only difference I would recommend is using smooth pipe instead of the ribbed. The ribbed I'd flexible so its easier to fit it all together bc you don't have to be as precise but smooth pvc pipe will have less air restriction creating a better vacuum
I was wondering about this also. I had heard that PVC will conduct too much static electricity and coat the ID with dust. But I am no expert. Can anyone advise?
Hola! 🖐I've seen many of your videos but never this one. Maybe it "popped up" now that I'm watching Dust Collection videos. Thanks for the info, really informative for what I'm trying to accomplish. Take care and have a good one, Adios!👊
Thanks man! I really needed to see this as my dust management system is,,,,,bad! I found a collection of gates and parts on Amazon so my next shop project is to finally get the dust out the door! I like that floor unit as well.
very cool, love your videos, very informative , i think its great that you show how the common person without alot of money can build the things they want or need. i also very much enjoy your brain pick episodes. two thumbs up man!!!!
Just a suggestion -- it looks like your wired plug doesn't have the romex plastic secured inside the plug housing. Normally, you'd want to capture the insulation in the plug before you screw it down to relieve the strain on the actual conductors. Nice vid, love the work and your great editing.
Nice work. Keep in mind that wood dust is combustible and plastic hoses and separators build up static electricity. Definitely keep that bucket emptied or you could have a boom..
May I recommend, the further you place ur hoses from the vacuum source, you decrease the ID of the hoses to keep consistent negative pressure at each tool. Also instead of a vacuum you can just use a lobe blower for a much higher negative pressure system.
I had wondered about the blast gates being at the tool reducing pressure bc of all the extra hose to the other tools. I just watched another video where the guy made like a splitter box with a closer to the vacuum with a single hose on one side with a sort of tray, and on the other side had holes with blast gates where a hose for each tool could be connected. That way, you just open the blast gate for the tool you're using, and the others are blocked at the source more or less. I'm thinking I'm gonna combine that idea with this system, and see if I can figure out a system to control the blast gates without having to walk across my shop every time I switch tools.
Just FYI about the electric if you want to be picky: The ground wires should have been pigtailed and the exposed wires under the bench should be in conduit or MC wire.
Just a thought. The blast gate for the floor sweep would be better located at the top. This way you dont have to bent down to the floor every time you want to use it. Again just a thought.
3:49 You should always attach wire loops in a clockwise direction so that as you tighten the screws, the screw will make the loop tighter if it moves the wire. Just remember if your screw is turning clockwise, your wire loop should be also.
Great video, well done! One suggestion though. You'd greatly improve your suction over those long runs if you were to replace those long rungs of corrugated hose with smooth PVC. Because a corrugated hose has so many bumps inside, every one of those little bumps acts like a speed bump for your airflow, and slows it down. I bet if you tried a little experiment by replacing just one of those long runs with PVC, you'll be pleasantly surprised by how much more suction you'll get. Another tip to increase your suction would be to eliminate all 90 degree angles in your fittings. You're far better off using Y fittings than you are with using T fittings. Every 90 degree angle greatly reduces airflow because the air first slams into a dead end at the bend in a T fitting, before then having to once again pick up momentum to travel on. A Y fitting eliminates this slamming into the inner walls of your fittings, and provides a much easier transition to the next length of pipe. Think of it as driving a car down the road, trying to maintain speed. When you come to a T in the road, you are slowed way down before making your 90 degree turn. Now compare that to a highway on ramp, which is essentially a Y in the road, when you can maintain your speed as you transition from one road to the other. Just a couple of suggestions if you feel the need to increase your suction.
The high speed of these videos is fantastic, and the little tricks are incredibly helpful. I don't feel like I'm going to live long enough to get through most DIYs... not so here.
When wiring receptacles and switches, be sure to have the curl on your wire going in the same direction as the screw turns; clockwise.
fivepointbaptist use a screwdriver to tighten the screws
I was thinking the same thing
That was the problem you noticed??? Nevermind the massive code violations of using an extension cord to run an outlet and switch, using zipties to attach them and not putting a cover over the receptacle.
@@mccalejk2 not sure thats a code violation as it wouldn't be considered a permanent installation. Essentially all he did is make a power bar.
I was going to say the same thing, as an electrician I approve this message lol.
A helpful hint: you can buy remote controlled "outlets" they plug into regular outlet then vac into it- remote on keychain on your belt- allows you to turn on-off from anywhere in shop
I was just thinking about doing that!
I'm currently building a system using 1.5" PVC, Since the system is sealed, and I'm using ball valves instead of blast gates, suction should be awesome. The only drawback is static build up, which can be cured with some metal screws put through the pipe wall and copper wire for ground. I have seen people put the wire inside the pipe, but I'm afraid of build up in a narrow pipe. The benefit is PVC is CHEAP! not the ball valves though.
I may be alone here, but I enjoy shop videos, they give me ideas and help me stay organized and efficient.
nattymatt Good to know! Most people like them, some don't (as is the case with ALL of my projects :)
Haters gonna hate, I suppose.
I love shop project videos, I like making useful things
You're definitely not alone. There are at least 1.5 million others that enjoy Bob's videos enough to subscribe.
I often do more shop projects.. than.. real projects :P
@3:50 just an fyi tip...wrap your wire around the screw clockwise so when you tighten it up it grabs and pulls it tight. The way you did does work, but in my experience, it likes to push the wire out and can lead to loose wires in your box. Other than that, thanks for the great video!
I am just now becoming interested in woodworking. I am disabled and thought this would be a great way to pass the time. Dust collection is a big concern of mine so is shop safety. Years ago I worked as an electrician and was taught a few things that I noticed you did not do in your video. The first was to always wrap the wire around the terminal screws in the direction the threads tighten. This way when you tighten the screws you are pulling the wire tighter around the screw. The second thing I noticed was the end where the plug was located. It appears as if the exterior insulation is butted up against the base of the plug instead of inside the clamping area. This allows the wires to become exposed and possibly more prone to damage. Just a few personal observations otherwise, great video.
I think a few people mentioned this, but it's important enough that I want to reiterate: your live AC line that runs from the outlet to the switch under the table should be in conduit. It costs almost nothing to do, and it can protect you from the very real possibility of something cutting into the wire causing some variety of suckage.
Thank you for your video, I am planning a central dust system myself. I have the Dust Deputy cyclone and it works well. I would suggest finding as large a container as you can for it if you are planning on connecting it to a thickness planer, even a small bench top model. Them things make a LOT of chips! I have my cyclone on top of a large gear oil drum and still have to empty it frequently when planing a lot of boards. Also you can stick your shop vac hose into a trash bag full of chips and hold the bag opening around it closed to suck the air out. Then tie it really tight before it expands again. It will reduce the volume by at least two thirds.
Good video. Note: Y connectors will give you better air flow than the T connectors
Swept Ts would be better still.
One option for your remote switch, is a remote switch control. It's a device that plugs into the outlet then you plug the tool (in this case vacuum), light, whatever you want to power and a wireless fob controls the switch device. You can turn on your vac from anywhere in the shop. Home depot, Harbor Freight, Amazon, eBay, lots of places to find them.
And these usually come in a pack of three so you can control three devices with one fob.
Got 'email all over the house. Lights, fans, anything I wish had a remote, does.
You lied in the title! You showed a lot more than that, actually gave me all the ideas I needed to build an efficient system to let me build more! I call click bait! And a huge thanks!
I have explored this option a number of times for my own shop and have yet to come up with a solution that I really like. While this shop vac idea works just fine, be careful that your hoses don't get clogged or you will implode your bucket... easy enough to just replace the bucket if it happens but knowing that it can happen also helps to make sure you don't overload the hoses.
Ben Ricks Good point.Thanks!
quick and easy set up I like that you showed this a lot of people think dust collection is for large shops that you work in everyday and that's not the case...
I know its 8 yrs old, but this is exactly what I need thank you
Always put the wires on the outlet so they tighten with the screw. ;) Very cool. I didn't even know things like those gates exist.
Definitely one of the best videos if you’re looking for a simple dust collection system
Nice job. Planning on a work table encorporating the dust collection under it. Like the floor cleaning idea. I have been electrician over 40 years. Wanted to suggest the wires bend in the direction of the tightening of the screw. This will draw the wire further under the screw, where bending the other way will push the wire out from under the screw. Of course I really go for a tight connection. Vibration of the tools could loosen the connections over time.
Some tips from an electricians apprentice
You should only ever a 1/4” max of jacket in a box per NEC (you had a few inches)
You should put your hooks on screw terminals clock wise so they tighten when you screw down the screw not loosen
Pre twist pig tails (don’t rely on wire nuts)
You ran more wire to the switch box than needed you could’ve just ran one 14/2 instead of two wires, using the neutral as a hot and re labeling it with a sharpie or electrical tape (you placed a wire nut on your neutrals)
If the pieces don't fit, you can also use a heat gun and melt one side then fit them together. The PVC is very formable.
+Aaron DC mediA Every man should own a good heat gun. Phazer technology is just bullshit.
Aaron DC mediA good idea
This is fantastic. My "shop" is very much in its infancy right now. Your channel is so great! From the detailed explanations to the availability of the materials needed. Thanks and keep it up!
That white electrical cable looks like Romex or similar. It's solid-core, designed for use inside walls, where it never has to bend after being installed. That's why it's stiff. That also means *it will wear out and break pretty quickly (possibly leading to starting a fire) if you bend and unbend it a lot* (plugging into different outlets, coiling up, etc.). Appliance cords and extension cords are made of stranded wire, and are designed to last a long time with frequent bending.
Nice. I also used a Jet air filtration unit to filter fine dust out of the air. It's not cheap (like $300), but keeps air really clean and healthy and makes finishing less if a hassle. Also, you can buy a remote controlled outlet switch for your vac for like $20.
I have seen many of your videos and I loved them for the practical, well explained, in a language that as in my case a beginner can understand ... thank you very much for taking your time and teaching us who love the bricolage
Just wanted to say thank you for showing how to make a dust collector with a wet/dry vac. I just bought a new 18 Gallon vac for my work shop and for doing other things around the house. Thanks again.
Awesome set up, man!
One possible modification to your dust sweep you might consider is to shorten the height to increase suction.
This video is best in class. Was so relieved to see Bob made 1 (after viewing several lesser videos). Thank you.
Who doesn't like the shop project videos? They're some of my favs! :(
I have the same Dust Deputy as yours. I had to get a metal can has the Home Depot buckets collapsed under the vacuum pressure. The metal buckets work great and solved the problem.
When attaching wire to screw terminals, wrap the wire around the screw in the direction the screw tightens. When you tighten the screw it'll pull the wire in rather than push it out.
Uhlan Yeah, I realized that I didn't shoot me fixing that. I blame it on being left handed :)
Based upon how old some of the comments are I'm clearly very late in viewing this video but I'm so glad it popped up on my search for shop vac dust collection options! I just subscribed and am looking forward to watching more of your videos because I also love to make stuff!!!
Thanks Bob. You helped me solve two problems I have with my new shop. Now I will it be able to tackle this until I finish my "Honey Do List" but this is perfect in my new garage I built. Thanks again love the videos.
the fact that you left some bare spots with caulking has my OCD on fire!
Very useful vid. I'll come back here once I'm ready to build my dust collection system and use your link. Appreciate the effort putting it together and sharing your tips and strategies for remembering the electrical stuff.
Good job Bob. Really like the fact that you linked everything you purchased. Very helpful!
Thank you for just getting on with it and getting the ideas over. I learned more per second than most I’ve seen. I’m doing a version of this project. This helped heaps.
Great Video, and not that it matters but that blue box is not a remodel box. It is a new build box. A remodel box had little tabs that flip out as you tighten the screws. Love your channel. Great build. I am about to build my first shop.
Very nice work. Like what you did....you applied the K.I.S.S. Principle! Three questions: 1) How much suction power is lost with this type of system? 2) How much material, in the end, ends up in the main barrel? 3) Why do I see that Cyclone funnel all the time? Is there a DIY system that can be built?
Thanks tons!
One small point Bob. Any directional change in dust collection systems should be made with the least possible flow resistance. Right angle changes reduces flow capacity. 👍
I am getting ready to build me a miter saw table. Saw you video for that, and now have a plan. Wanting to get a vac system for my shop and here you go. will buy the parts through your site. Thanks for the ideas. Will keep watching.
This was very helpful. I have been fighting the dust battle for years and now I see an end to the mess.
One of the best video productions I've seen. Well done, no b/s, and speeded up clips to the next step.. Awesome.
Great project--thanks for posting!
I'm considering a dust collection set-up like this because my shop is small and I don't need a large system with extensive piping.
Maybe put some small scrap wood spacers under the clamp strap holding the blast gate next to the wall.
Note: the wires should wrap around the switch and outlet screws in the tightening (clockwise) direction.
Never hesitate to show off shop projects. Keep them coming!
Thanks for this its a great idea.
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I used the plastic blast gates reccomended in this video. I find they clog too easy preventing the gates closing all the way even after a short amount of use . I have seen similar comments on Amazon. seemingly the metal ones are better but come at a higher price
Love the great videos and channel!
Before I got my dust collector I had just the vacuum and cyclone hooked up to everything like this. Let me tell you this now before you go adding anymore to it, get rid of those plastic gates and make your own. Not just as an excuse to do a video on making your own gates, ha! They are terrible. They jam up and then won't close very easily. They leak like crazy. As soon as you have more than a few gates you lose most of your suction from all the leaking. Even now that I have a DC, I still have quite a few tools hooked up this way so it's a good investment for the future and not just a temporary solution until you get a better system later. The vacuum is better for things like a router table or spindle sander where it's restricted to a small opening at the tool.
krtwood Yeah, I had one of them clog up yesterday, so you're totally right. I've got some interesting plans for my system involving the gates, so it'll probably be worthwhile building my own sooner than later. Thanks!
Would it prevent clogging if the blast gates were installed with a vertical flow rather than horizontal flow? That way the dust is less likely to settle into the space where the slide operates. Of course, that does nothing for the leakage issue mentioned.
Wonderful project! I just ordered my DC today, so I'll be going through the same motion very soon as far as piping things in and wiring in switches. Your quick lesson on wiring was great. Weren't you planning on doing a circuit series? I would be really interested in watching that because you're a great teacher and electricity is something I would like to learn more about.
April Wilkerson Thanks April! Can't wait to see your DC setup! I assume you got a big collector? Which one did you get?
I definitely plan on doing a Maker 101 episode on circuits, focusing on small electronics (DC wiring), but the principles are the same as AC wiring. It's going to be in the next month or two I think.
Yeah, I went ahead and bought the 2hp harbor freight unit and plan on doing a few mods.
Awesome, I look forward to it!
April Wilkerson did you use the coupon out of wood magazine and get it for $169
April Wilkerson Any updates? Get that DC setup yet? :D
Randomly found a comment from you from 4 years ago. You've come so far @april
This was an excellent idea and I used it for a while. I’ve since moved to a 4” dust collection system. If someone in the Wash DC are is looking to build this system, I’m happy to pass along the parts (except my dust cyclone - which I still use).
I have this same setup and works very well. I put another bucket on the main bucket to keep it from collapsing.
Great ideas. I’ll be making a similar setup under the workbench. Maybe in a cabinet or removing the cabinet. Your project helps tie the parts together even the electric. Thanks.
Fantastic! You covered a lot of information on an important topic, and you somehow managed to cover all of the details in only a few minutes. Well done, sir. Thank you!
I don't mind the shop videos at all. I just started watching the channel and was wondering what happened to all the dust. Totally new at this, enjoyed the electrical.
I like your videos because you speed up the process. I hate long videos about people talking more than doing the things promised in the title. Congrats!
Good video, thanks.Yes, the hose and fitting sizes are frustrating. For my "system", I use standard 2" ABS pipe which is available everywhere (the black pipe used for house drain and vent plumbing). You can use straight 2" pipe to replace a lot of the flex hose, and all the tees and elbows just glue together. I glue the flex hose inside 2" couplings. Takes a bit of futzing, but it works well and I can just pick up fittings at the local hardware or home center.Like your videos, subscribed.
+Bill Wells I like your idea Bill. The Home Depot here does not have the 2" black pipe. The white it does have does not fit my vac hose. Also, did you incorporate the blast gates into your system? If so, did the 2" fit the 2" of the blast gate? This is frustrating
+Steven S. No, the 2" pipe does not fit the ShopVac hose, sorry I did not mention that. I ended up with many adapters, which I had to make. So I have quite a hodge-podge assortment of hoses (three sizes of hoses!) and couplings and fittings. No, I have not used blast gates. I just chase around with various lengths of hose, most of which will fit the cyclone separator I made out of a 12" diameter concrete form tube (at H.D.).
the easiest way to remember what side of your outlet is negative, is that the large polarized port on the left is your neutral and the smaller is your hot. when it comes to light switches, I know they aren't in this video, is with the screws on the right with the switch down means the switch is open( no throughput of power)
So funny watching these older videos how much quieter Bob seems!
I have a feeling if I made this it would just end up collecting dust
contact me when you're successful
Alfredo Moreno that made me laugh, hard. hahahahaa
Alfredo Moreno bad pun alert!!
Resan Chea well collecting dust sucks :/
but it can suck and blow :D
hey man.... just a thought for your storage bucket.... but maybe you want to cut a slot in the side of the bucket for a sight and then silicon either a piece of clear face shield or even a soda bottle to keep it cheap
Just discovered your channel. Well done.
I like how you time-lapse everything so you can clearly see what you are doing, but it goes by quickly.
Much like speed-reading.
I have been looking into putting a much-needed dust collection system in my shop. Your method seems like a great solution.
Looking forward to watching more of your content.
Nice job, I agree, a simpler way to collect the tons of dust a busy shop makes is essential.
This is a really helpful video thanks a lot! Just ordered what I could through the links provided. Can’t wait to get this set up. Been playing around with this idea for about 6 months, time to pull the trigger
You should do a shop tour. :) I know its not really your type of video but I think it would be really cool to see what an experienced builder keeps on hand.
+Cheyenne maier I've done a couple of them. The most recent is a 360 video.
I have a problem with dust and all I have is a small table saw and a miter saw. I will try this. Thanks so much for this video that just might be what I need. Thanks again.
man, just listen to that passion in his voice ...
Just sold a dust collector - too big for my garage. This idea/project will meet my needs...Good video.
OK.. I am now officially obsessed with watching your videos..
excellent video keep up great ideas this is what young and old woodworkers like
Thank you Bob! i think, in a small workshop is also very important to have this, as you have less access and time to clean up the mess.
When you are wiring up the "extension cord with a switch" - you should ALWAYS have the wires wrap around the screws CLOCKWISE. That way, when you tighten the screw (righty-tighty), it pulls the wire into the connection. Alternatively, many switches and outlets now have small holes in the back - you strip the wire, just as you usually would, then just poke the wire into the hole and the connection is made (much quicker and simpler than wrapping wire around screws).
I was going to say the same thing...
This is an awesome system! I am planning on building a portable version of this to add to my mobile workbench that I made. It will definitely be handy as the weather is starting to get colder, so I can work inside!
If you add one more take off you can attach it to a long flex hose and vac your whole shop... floor, walls and ceiling
Pretty sure this did not work as intended. Longer hoses affect suction power, need more vacuums to boost it. Tell me I am wrong.
Awesome! Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I’m a newbe at woodworking and I need all the help I can get.
Hey Bob, I am an engineer that makes dust collection systems for larger shops. Something that I would recommend to you is (if you are finding that you are not getting enough suction) is two things; One would be to use metal straight pipe and as little as possible flex pipe too because flex pipe has a lot of resistance compared to metal duct (usually metal duct it is a bit heavier gauge than hvac systems but I digress) and the second would be to get a stronger collector (maybe more permanent or not). We generally use Oneida Air Systems for this (www.oneida-air.com/) on small projects (such as personal shops). They work really well. Anyways though, your video is really great.
This is one step closer to diy my kitchen vacuum dust collector. Thank you for sharing your ideas. I don’t want to spend the $ to buy a already made system.
now that I'm in the process of reorganizing my shop, I was thinking about building something very similar to this, and the floor sweep was something about which I didn't think! that will come in handy for sure
Only difference I would recommend is using smooth pipe instead of the ribbed. The ribbed I'd flexible so its easier to fit it all together bc you don't have to be as precise but smooth pvc pipe will have less air restriction creating a better vacuum
I was wondering about this also. I had heard that PVC will conduct too much static electricity and coat the ID with dust. But I am no expert. Can anyone advise?
@@christopherrecord5556 If you ground the pipe -- you should, you don't want to experience a dust explosion -- then that'll cure the static issue.
Hola! 🖐I've seen many of your videos but never this one. Maybe it "popped up" now that I'm watching Dust Collection videos. Thanks for the info, really informative for what I'm trying to accomplish. Take care and have a good one, Adios!👊
finally got my cyclone hooked up to router table - what a difference - thanks for details on setting up the switch, gonna do that
Thanks man! I really needed to see this as my dust management system is,,,,,bad! I found a collection of gates and parts on Amazon so my next shop project is to finally get the dust out the door! I like that floor unit as well.
very cool, love your videos, very informative , i think its great that you show how the common person without alot of money can build the things they want or need. i also very much enjoy your brain pick episodes. two thumbs up man!!!!
Sweet explanation. It was the simplest one I've seen on here regarding a cyclone type dust collection system. And thanks for the link to the products.
You could use copper pipe between your bracket and wall as a sort of large washer to offset it firmly to the wall
great concise, low-budget build video......and yes, you should always have extra ho's.............uh, hose..........many love, much props
Question. How do you compensate for the suction loss? Oh and by the way your video is pretty, also that's nice setup you got there too man.
Just a suggestion -- it looks like your wired plug doesn't have the romex plastic secured inside the plug housing. Normally, you'd want to capture the insulation in the plug before you screw it down to relieve the strain on the actual conductors. Nice vid, love the work and your great editing.
Good point!
That insulation tape idea just saved me $20. Thanks!
Am pretty sure you will be AMAZED how fast your 5 gallon will fill up I always am! Great vid Bob I Like To Make Stuff
***** Yeah, cool thing is that you could easily just add the cyclone to a larger container anytime!
Yea, unfortunately I made a thien baffle so I need to make another. No big deal, nothing wrong with more projects!
Nice work. Keep in mind that wood dust is combustible and plastic hoses and separators build up static electricity. Definitely keep that bucket emptied or you could have a boom..
Great application.
Remote on/off switches are now available at low prices.
Thanks for video.
May I recommend, the further you place ur hoses from the vacuum source, you decrease the ID of the hoses to keep consistent negative pressure at each tool. Also instead of a vacuum you can just use a lobe blower for a much higher negative pressure system.
I had wondered about the blast gates being at the tool reducing pressure bc of all the extra hose to the other tools. I just watched another video where the guy made like a splitter box with a closer to the vacuum with a single hose on one side with a sort of tray, and on the other side had holes with blast gates where a hose for each tool could be connected. That way, you just open the blast gate for the tool you're using, and the others are blocked at the source more or less.
I'm thinking I'm gonna combine that idea with this system, and see if I can figure out a system to control the blast gates without having to walk across my shop every time I switch tools.
Just FYI about the electric if you want to be picky: The ground wires should have been pigtailed and the exposed wires under the bench should be in conduit or MC wire.
Just a thought. The blast gate for the floor sweep would be better located at the top. This way you dont have to bent down to the floor every time you want to use it. Again just a thought.
3:49 You should always attach wire loops in a clockwise direction so that as you tighten the screws, the screw will make the loop tighter if it moves the wire. Just remember if your screw is turning clockwise, your wire loop should be also.
For the switch, I bought a 13$ remote off amazon that I carry on a hook. One touch on and off is a lot easier than walking back and forth to a switch.
They are silver and brass screws. Always remember when dealing with electrical. Black to brass will save your ass.
Black to brass will save you ass > white and silver are basically the same thing.
You need to hook up the wire so the short side of the hook turns with the screw. Not doing so can cause the connection to straighten and cause shorts.
Great video Bob!
I made one a while ago, but it is sitting in the corner *collecting dust* ;)
When your mounting at the wall 2:15 you could put something on the backside like metal pipe or something to make it steady.