Thomas Mann's "The Magic Mountain" (1987)
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- A novel of ideas at once serious and comic, The Magic Mountain offers a bird’s-eye view of the political, philosophical, and social landscapes of pre-World War I Europe. This program uses provocative dramatizations of key scenes from Thomas Mann’s grotesque bildungsroman and employs the character of Mann himself, in a re-creation of a 1939 lecture, as a guide to the story’s heights and depths. In addition, Mann’s biographer, Nigel Hamilton, inquires into the story’s manipulation of time and the effects of environment on identity.
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I do not agree with the way they play Settembrini. He comes across as a radical. Actually he is an impoverished humanist. I see him as gentle and helpful and yet proud with his chequered jacket (he has no other)
agreed. Very poor acting. I believe none of these actors read the book
they both are radicals to have a dual and commit a suicide over a simple debate... portraying philosophy as a psychotic game for useless bourgeois
Thanks. I have been reading magic mountain and this programme helps to get more grasp of this profound novel.
Historical time
Time in its romance
One linear
The other zigzag twists and turns
Incoherence is eloquent
Stupidity as one extreme of cleverness
Our present epoch reflects the moods of the Magic Mountains
When ebullitions of extremes are at play
Humanity being dehumanised and dehumanised
Sad times
Profit is God
Memories of first and second world wars
Messages
Yet Hypocrisy lurks
In different parts of the world
Peoples are dying starving killed and murdered
Only a few with the most wealth and craving and killing for more and more...
On the table of Trade your health or ill health is a matter of his balance sheet and profit
His raised eagle head and hungry but never satisfied -hunger craving for more..
Sadly, this film is just a very bad representation of the novel. It shows wrong details about the story and misdepicts central elements of the novel and of many characters.
I've read The Magic Mountain five times, and somehow I never pictured Settembrini as either this young or this truculent. I always imagined him as older than this, much calmer and not nearly this aggressive. Naphta, his "opponent" in the struggle for Hans Castorp's soul, is the one I pictured as pushy and unpleasant.
its Percy off Blackadder!
I've read that the movie 'A Cure for Wellness' is based on this book of Thommas Mann. Does the plot of this novel also include themes such as hydrotherapy, eels or royal bloodlines ?
the book is different from the cure for wellness@@biblelover1350
Both are a pain in the ass but the latter is the nasty heartless slug
This 100%
I love this documentary. There is also something special about 1980s documentaries.
I come from the Magic Mountain Wikipedia article and was almost shocked to see the images of the men Thomas Mann wrote the characters of Settembrini and Naptha based on, they look EXACTLY as how I imagined them to look when reading the book.
its odd but relevant these days to see a lot of writers and film directors in hollywood have old vs new films The Magic Mountain" (1987) was different from the cure for wellness 2016 which was still about a secret town/sanatorium in the Swiss alps dealing with cures and american medicines compared to how things b4 were in the past, such as prescriptions and modern medicine changed both in history and how both films are great in their own way to teach us that sickness and cures are not always found, it ties in a bit with germanys history but the newer one has a darker edge to it, teaching us that we all have our secrets and that death life and some secrets should be left alone. its a bit uncanny.
I have always wanted to read this novel, but was afraid it would be difficult to relate to. After watching this I think I'm ready to give it a go.
Its a good novel. Talks a lot about life and death, illness, god, and others. Is lobg but I found it easy to read.
You may be daunted by the early 20th century verbiage. Mann calls Hans Castorp, 'Hans Castorp' throughout the entire book as if the reader doesn't remember who the protagonist is. So it's heavy in that regard.
for example: "Hans Castorp went to the men's room and when he came out, Hans Castorp lit a cigarette, after which Hans Castorp saw a bird flying by. Hans Castorp later thought about this bird when he was retiring for bed. Hans Castorp had trouble sleeping at this time." -I exaggerate for effect, but you get my meaning. Much of the book's hypnotic effect is lost as one is reminded sentence by sentence that Hans Castorp is it's hero.
Is nice to read it. ´m reading now, the writing is so fluent. You will like it.
I guarantee
I’m currently reading it. That’s why I’m here to take peek. I was afraid by the size of the books (2 volumes and over 900 pages in Turkish) but it’s so good. I feel like I’ll feel a emptiness wheb I finish the book. Definitely one of that type.
The dramatisation, although well meaning, it cheapened the novel somehow.
Absolutely wonderful book A must read ❤
- The brick that it is, and with two languages, it can be enjoyed at any age (?). I think that ideally you read this book when you are in your 20's. At that age, your chances of shared emotions with Castorp are greater- The same questions are asked, or want to be answered.
La Montagna Incantata... Capolavoro assoluto di un genio come Thomas Mann
I never got past Mann's prose style. I didn't need to be reminded every single time that Hans' last name was Castorp.
"Hans Castorp did this. Hans Castorp then did something else. And then Hans Castorp sat down and did nothing until, Hans Castorp thought of something else to do. Then Hans Castorp did that thing.''🙄😒🤢🤮
Nigel Hamilton wrote biographies of Thomas Mann, Field Marshall Montgomery, and John Kennedy, among others.
“Magic Mountain “ was begun as a short piece to fill out book with “Death in Venice”. They use Wagner “Tristan” to give feeling of this book here.
This is fantastic!
Interssante e piacevole documentario.
readers are divided between those who delieve Hans Castorp and Mrs Chauchat had sex (he got his pencil back from her and this means a further unreported meeting) and those who believe otherwise. the key scene between them (at the exact mid-point of the novel) is a wonder.
Well, they got to the "highest means of the familiar other [du]"
It had to be Wagner. Couldn't be anything else now, could it?
Um livro para ser lido ao longo da vida. E mesmo assim, fica sempre muito por notar, entender, apreender. Continuar a analisar T. Mann com " Dr. Faustus" e.ouvir Mahler (Das Lied Von Der Erde, a 2ª e 3ª Sinfonias) seria o ideal. Go, try it, and your eyes will open.
Settembrini was a laconic self-questioning profoundly humane character, not just an angry posturer. In fact most of the characters are overplayed, including Mann - inevitable perhaps, given the programme's format. For all that - as the Tutor appreciates - Mann remains a very great writer in both substance and style. (Green Fire, UK) 🌈🦉
The fact is the characters are well drawn in the novel, hence any defects shown are well exposed. I have read twice the book & do not recognise most characters here! It’s a book about ideas, which is difficult to dramatise - u can’t just make actors say the words to get the effects
Thanks! I'm reading it for the second time too - I won't bother with this!
It's also a book on the limitations and contradiction of the mental life.
Terminei a leitura de "A montanha mágica" recentemente e amei esse livro!
Crazy this was only 53 years after the book came out.
They’re using Wagner and early Schoenberg with Schumann. The first two are the late nineteenth century while the last represents
the early Romantic era. Mann himself uses music in many ways.
Thank you so much for this fantastic feast for the eyes, mind and spirit! Making Mann's Magic Mountain accessible to those of us who lack the natural abilities to truly process such a work of Art is a tremendous blessing and a great kindness. Thank you again.
The Humor is so out of touch with reality was that intentional?
Deeply❤
See here at 17:40 the Scene where Settembrini recommends to leave, not to stay - because it is doubtful whether or not the Sanatorium would help, but returning to normality would be of a positive effect as well - ua-cam.com/video/M_0HsynZoBc/v-deo.html - this is how the book describes it.
Adsum
What is the introduction classical piece? Forgot what’s it called..
@@trentsnail1209 Thanks! I remember now!
Sounds like Wagner.
Thank you so much!
Thanks for this!
Who plays hans castorp?
Ben Daniels
as Hans Castorp
He is charging to his death at end is he not?
Not a tragedy though. A fitting end.
If this is a faithful reflection of the novel, it seems to me unspeakably banal.
Big Novels of Ideas can't be summed up than banally.
Banal? Not at all - the characters shown here are, but they have little or nothing to do with the novel. Settembrini for instance, totally wrong! He is an italian and, like hes father, humaniste - so he speaks - a first class representive of the republican parts of he's country, eloquent and charming, always convincing not persuading. Maybe he is here fabricated to suit the prejudices of an english audience against Germany - thus to keep english viewers right away from better understanding, 'better they do not understand!'? And it is said that all translations are still of very poor quality, up until today. Also lesen Sie bitte auf deutsch.
Want an example?
Und sie setzte ihm die Papiermütze auf.
»Adieu, mon prince Carnaval! Vous aurez une mauvaise ligne de fièvre ce soir, je vous le prédis. «
Damit glitt sie vom Stuhl, glitt über den Teppich zur Tür, in deren Rahmen sie zögerte, halb rückwärts gewandt, einen ihrer nackten Arme erhoben, die Hand an der Türangel. Über die Schultern sagte sie leise:
»N’oubliez pas de me rendre mon crayon. « Und trat hinaus.“
The film stops at 'Adieu, mon prince Carnaval' - turning what is said in the novel into total opposite meaning.
This film is fake news - partially
The novel is everything but banal !
Is this the film?
No.
Episode aired Feb 7, 1988 (IMDb)
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Director
David Thomas
Writers
Gillian GreenwoodDavid Thomas
Stars
Paul BrookeIain CuthbertsonBen Daniels
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