T.S. Eliot's "The Waste Land" documentary (1987)
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- Read by noted actors Michael Gough, Edward Fox, and Eileen Atkins, T. S. Eliot’s The Waste Land powerfully expresses the disillusionment and disgust of the post-World War I era in Europe. In this program, Professor Frank Kermode, of Cambridge University; Eliot biographer Peter Ackroyd; and poets Sir Stephen Spender and Craig Raine examine the complex nature of Eliot’s influential poem, analyze its appeal, and trace the reasons why it became one of the best-known emblems of the 20th century.
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Mate, I just wanted to say. I must have watched hundreds of hours of videos you have uploaded and really benefitted from it. Thank you so much for taking the time to gather and upload the content. I have massively appreciated it
This is great! I do take issue with that academic who summarily dismisses Yeats. Yeats could never have written The Wasteland; but Elliot could never have written Among School Children. That does not mean that one was “better” than the other. They were simply different poetic geniuses with different poetic concerns.
Quite agree. Don't like Yeats on the whole but some of his poetry is of the highest order. The two poets are from two entirely different eras, meaning their style is very different, but what they say is, of course, not dissimilar. The sentiments of 'The Waste Land' are not dissimilar to those of Yeats's magnificent 'The Second Coming'. There's also his 'Easter 1916', which is the best description I've read of fanaticism, applicable to the IRA, the Neo-Cons, ISIS, and Wokeism.
Yes agreed. But always felt Eliot was the greatest of the 20th century poet
Yeats is great. Eliot is great. The academics rate Eliot higher, but beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
@@castelodeossos3947 What is "Wokeism?"
@@richardmindemann6935& in the ear...
This is the greatest thing on UA-cam.
By some margin.
Such fond memories. Our teacher made us watch this when we were 17 and studying Eliot for our A levels. Now with hindsight, nearly 30 years later, I can't help but marvel at the trust our teacher had in our capabilities and the quality of education we were fortunate enough to receive.
in the whole wasteland.
Excellent. Wonderful
Hmmm* I think the Jacob Bronowski interview on Parkinson, matches this admirably
I truly wish I had friends who appreciated such things, someone I could discuss this with. This poem may have possibly changed my life tonight. If only I were more intelligent, how I’d love to write this well.
Hey dude! I feel you, I too wish I had friends to discuss this with... But here in the comments of this video if you want there are people who can appreciate your thoughts and you can have a good discussion with.
I myself love this poem, I have discovered it just a few weeks ago and I keep going back to it in my mind during the day. So many lines are burned into my memory.
I particularly love the quote:"We think about the key each in his prison" because I recognize the thoughts I have during the days and nights, looking for a way to escape the prison. If there is one.
Give it a go.. writing flowing words and rhyme and meter etc. Im sure you could write a poem and if you keep on at it....
Yes there are people here and everywhere that appreciate our thoughts!!!
Your prison is only a construct of your mind Andrew.
I always thought my prison to be my body and it’s limitations
This was a fantastic experience! So many years later and still so relevant. Edward Fox is really superb and embodies the poem. HIs is a musical and rhythmic rendition which makes the lines luminously intelligible.
I’m in
I have been teaching AP Literature for eight years. It all comes down to a sensitivity to language, tone, etc. and critical thinking and reading which leads, if successful, to critical writing. I’ll never retire because I get the honor of teaching Eliot, Yeats, Shakespeare, Faulkner. My students discuss the texts and I love the give and take. I know no one, including my fellow teachers, who can or want to discuss these authors
I'm a teacher made in the same mold... it's a bottomless and profound joy.
You like to give and take with your students Christopher because you know your fellow teachers are probably doing the same. It is a most definitely bottomless and extremely profound joy that not many people know about.
I teach college British and American Literature; if you would accept a morsel of instructorly advise, inspire your students to begin analytical essays with textual quotations ...
@@peterfrengel3964
Puck hath no bottom ...
@@MCompton-cv1ze Man is but an ass if he go about to expound this dream.
_"I will show you fear in a handful of dust..."_
One of the most muscular lines of poetry I've ever read...
what does this line mean?
@@binghamguevara6814 Strength of your Mind..
Evelyn Waugh's book a Handful of Dust.
@@binghamguevara6814 Death without meaning.
@@binghamguevara6814 The "handful of dust" is an obvious reference to the soil thrown by mourners on a coffin once it has been lowered into the grave. But there is another reference that gives the passage a much richer meaning. If you look back to the Latin/Greek epigraph at the beginning of The Waste Land. The Sybill of Cumae was once a beautiful prophetess in the service of Apollo. Desiring her, Apollo asked her to name her wish, and she told him that she wanted to live as many years as there were particles in a handful of dust. She rejected his advances, but he granted her wish. She forgot, however, to say that she wanted perpetual youth, and over the years, she grew ever more decrepit. The lines Eliot chose are from a Latin comic novel; at an extravagant dinner party, the Sybil is referred to, now a tiny wizened creature. Some boys ask her (in Greek) what she wants now, and she replies that she wants death - further life in this state of debilitation is meaningless for her, and only a burden. Eliot may be saying, through this reference, that a life lived out in futility is a more fearful thing than death itself.
I should have been a pair of ragged claws, scuttling across the floors of silent seas.
my mother in a nut shell
"Mutt! You mutt!" *throws food*
@@TheHorse_yes “and with a whimper I’m f****g splitting jack”
"And he meant it"
I felt so moved watching this again after 30 years. Eliot's voice will be present there in the mountains whenever I go visit a cousin.
I don't get it
What a lovely programme! Thoroughly enjoyed it... Some excellent personalities here whilst Eliot is just so utterly brilliant. Full stop.... Thank you to whoever posted this gem.
These narrators are highly educated and cultured. But I was a Kansas farm girl in the1950s when i first read Prufrock and The Wasteland, and they spoke directly to me. This, I think, is the measure of Eliot's genius. What the thunder said -- words beyond this finite world..
And that's the good and bad of The Wasteland. Great lines to not a great poem make.
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Musicality without meanimg.
I just discovered this channel and I’m grateful that the first video I’ve watched was about T.S. Eliot, one of my favorite poets. The view of humanity of “The Wasteland” seems particularly resonant during these times.
Michael Gough's reading is simply sublime
I haven’t heard that reading. Have you hear Alec Guiness’ reading?
Lots of reading Love Song of J Alfred Prufrock. Also amazing poem.
Great to hear Stephen Spender. One of his poems opening lines has become a constant mantra for me since I first read it in my early twenties - 'we must live through the time when everything hurts'
I have listened to the video many many times. It has helped me tremendously especially when I have felt low. Thank you so much. The voices of those who read certain parts of Eliot’s two poems brought them to life and I have enjoyed listening to them over and over again. I really cannot thank you enough for these beautiful experiences ❤!!!
I have listened to the video many many times. It has helped me tremendously especially when I have felt low. Thank you so much. The voices of those who read certain parts of Eliot’s two poems brought them to life and I have enjoyed listening to them over and over again. I really cannot thank you enough for these beautiful experiences ❤!!!
I love this so much and couldn't thank you more for this while living in the wasteland!
"I had not thought death had undone so many." Just an amazing line. I think of this line everyday when I watch crowds I belong to (very Whitmanesque) joining me on the subway.
Sí de verdad es un verso impresionante! Pero hay que recordar que Eliot "roba" de otros poetas, en este caso menciona uno de sus poetas favoritos, o sea Dante. Inferno III, 55-57:
“si lunga tratta
di gente, ch'io non avrei mai creduto
che morte tanta n'avesse disfatta.”
An allusion to Dantes inferno. So clever.
I think of that line every time I walk across London Bridge
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The whole poem is replete with references to other work. What an astonishing mind he must have had.
@@timwatts9371 Such as" Goodnight sweet ladies" in the pub scene. Ophelia's lines of course!
I barely breathed while listening to this. Wonderful!
Y breath at all
As a Minnesotan, I'm pleased to see that Eliot could attract 13,700 fans to Williams Arena at the U of MN, almost as many as show up there for a basketball game.
Another Fantastic Melvyn Bragg Production!
Eliot is one of the most wonderful poet in the history of English Literature.
He's v great, but I'd say Shakespeare.
Eliot needed an editor to tell him The Waste Land contained at least twice as many words as it should and to verbally if not physically slap the anti-Semite out of him.
@@TedPope Interesting info. Thank you. Q. The him at the end means himself, no?
In terms of range, topics, relevance, and invention WB Yeats far exceeds TS Elliot as the greatest English language poet of the the 20th century.
@@jamesdolan4042 Yes!!
Wonderful presentation. I read T.S.Eliot in college, 40 years ago, together with other stuffs and the only poet from the 20th century that I still read time and again, is T.S.Eliot. The rest is gone.
@Dylan Wilde As bigmouthed of you
@@cjoe6908 ??? what does that mean?
@@SuperGuanine That was a reply to a reply now deleted by somebody I was replying to.
Oh, but what an immensely beautiful and most welcome surprise to greet one’s day! Thank you a million times over!
I am 71 years old and I've loved Eliot since I was a small boy. The dry Sauvages,little Gidding and others were what I loved to read in silence and at night. I always have had a deep feeling that there was prophesy among his words. There are wordlers of which I'm one and then there's Eliot
Wonderful in every way. I especially appreciated Peter Ackroyd, as I have read some of his novels.
His book (biography) on Eliot is very good.
TS Eliot is one of my very favorite poets, but I just can’t listen to him perform 😸😹❤️
Wonderful documentary, I didn’t know this existed! Thank you so much for sharing it!
He was not a good reader of his own work. Nor were Yeats or Pound. Eliot sounds like he's impersonating Churchill, while Yeats and Pound both sound insane.
Ha ha. Horse for courses. I think TSEliot himself and perhaps Alec Guinness are the only ones who know how to read Eliot's work properly. Same for EPound (after many years still remember listening to a bad recording of his reading: 'Pull down thy vanity. I say pull down.') Tom Hiddleston's rendition of Pound's 'And the days are not full enough', for example, is sincere but to my ear not good at all. Poetry is best read without adding any sense of profundity -- let the poetry speak for itself.
@@castelodeossos3947 A problem I have with Elliot's readings is that, being a poet myself and a pedant with metre, Elliot's notion of metre was democratic, in the sense he believed the reader was right when reading a poem to either pick up on it or ignore it. So when he read his work aloud he ignored his own metre. He knew what he'd intended acoustically with his lines, but didn't read them that way. To my ear, it makes for a flat reading. When I write my own poetry, I'm so fastidious that I place accents over stressed syllables, a la GM Hopkins, that I don't think some readers will pick up on, so as to avoid any confusion.
@@iainrobb2076 Believe Yeats too insisted on 'metrical reading'. Believe both types of reading can be overdone and be well done. The most disagreeable is, to me, when someone 'enacts' the poem. Actors are worst of all.
@@castelodeossos3947 Oh, I totally agree with that. It's why I can't bear most modern adaptations of Shakespeare. The actors just have to read the lines, and read them well. Instead, they read enjambed lines directly into one another, ignore all accentuation, and gibber, shriek and yell at a breakneck speed and volume, and all that comes out is an incomprehensible din. They feel they need to overact to get the point across instead of paying deference to the intentions of the poet.
So what, exactly, makes this poetry as opposed to prose. Seriously, there is no rhyme, no meter. So what makes it poetry?
This was a fascinating documentary about a poem that I have loved since I first read it at the age of 20. And the actors reading the excerpts are absolutely marvellous - especially Eileen Atkins, in my opinion, but the two men too. With one bizarre exception, in the scene on the Thames, where the Rhinemaidens are quoted: Weialala leia, Wallala leialala. Never heard anything so bizarre in my life. Could he not have listened to a recording of Rheingold, to find out how it's supposed to be pronounced?
"The Waste Land" is the most overrated thing ever committed to paper. It's not a poem, it's an intellectual crossword puzzle. It was largely responsible for driving poetry out of the human soul and into the university classroom, where poetry is taught rather than read. The guy who made that absurd claim that Eliot is a greater "poet" than Yeats made me laugh. Yeats is head and shoulders over any 20th century poet in English. He's WAY head and shoulders over Eliot, whose reputation, by the way, has declined since the end of the 20th century.
Let's just say one of the most famous overrated things.... Agreed.
Yea I don't understand the hype I have tried reading his stuff a few times and am just lost. It's like scattershot word vomit.
It’s pure brilliance. It’s irrelevant how he stacks up to Yeats or any other poet.
In the mid 1970's i ended up as a student at the Royal Sea Bathing Hospital Margate .
It was a difficult time for me and i recall sitting in a shelter on Margate seafront ,on many occasions, contemplating life and my place in it . This was most often in winter when english coastal towns can be particularly bleak . As part of my contemplations i had started reading about Eastern Philosophy.
Later on i cane to know if T S Elliott and The Wastekand and noticed the vedantic references therein .
A couple of years ago i had a rae visit to Margate and discovered a Blue Plaque on that seafront shelter informing that Elliot had written some if ' The Wasteland ' there !
16:10 Vorticism
21:00 best explanation - underneath the surface exist murmerings of past poets
22:57-26:26 Game of Chess narration
27:25 Range of characters
27:31 Conversation in pub discussed
29:42 River Tent is broken
30:58 Personal life of Eliot - Marriage
Unreal city
35:06 Key figure - Tiresias
watched this again. Can watch it again and again. Timeless poem, and a wonderful documentary ..
Thak You🙏
Absolutely beautiful. I loved hearing Thomas Stearn Eliot’s voice. What a true treasure. Thank you
Stearns
Bunch of Bull. He would have been more valuable to the human race had he been a cab driver. Babbling nonsense poems. I remember from High School some shit about woman’s hairy arms? Believe that?
Intento comprender algo, lástima que mi inglés sea tan pobre pero la fascinación que ejerce la poesía de T S Eliot es inmensa y me "obliga" escuchar todo lo escuchable (aunque poco o nada entienda) para conocerle lo más posible!
Escuchar poesía en su lengua original es como un mantra; aunque no entendamos sus palabras ésta obra prodigios en uno y nos da gozo inefable.
@@SheylayamGullath Te llevará tiempo entenderlo en inglés, pero la recompensa será sublime. A no desistir.
If I cried out / would the Angels abandon me? Definitely. ( Rilke) It is that declaimation that is uncanny in Eliot. The surity of spiritual truth known only to the cursed. A truth from beyond this world . An also why Shakespeare's blank verse became facile in the mouths of modern actors. No ability to declaim. But Rod Stieger was an exception. And now it is time to declaim that which is the wrath again. A rare rendition only of the right wing fetish poem of recent years The Wanderer ( Anglo Saxon). He was American also and sounded exactly like TS Eliot.
So good to see these documentaries on youtube I've had them on my old video cassettes for decades and would watch them from time to time but I see you haven't got the Proust documentary which to my mind is the best one and I still have it but it's getting grainy and unclear love to see the Proust documentary on your channel.
I've met fully qualified college professors who say The Wasteland is NOT about the world after WW1. They have the stones to suggest it is more than that.
Of course there are layers, it has depth, but it is a vision of life after the first, most devastating event in human history.
What alternative interpretations do they offer?
@@charliewest1221 Oh dear, it was when I was in college a long time ago and i'm still bitter about the run-around I got in English Lit. 😅
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Cheers, good friend.
I’m beginning to love Mr. T.S. Eliot more and more as I am ageing. It is astonishing to see the amount of rationality and thoughts Mr. Eliot was loaded with from such an early age.
Our professor of Modern English literature at the University often used to say, if you wanna know the spirit of modern English poetry, there's only one option for you, that's TS Eliot.
Really, this person has combined all the knowledge he got from his studies of around the world and poured that into his poetries, especially in The Hollow Men and The Wasteland, to make these "unreal".
He was an anti semite and a religious conservative.
“Much much better than Yeats”… not sure I would go that far!
well, Modernity- wise it is hugely invigorating in form, and in a way looking at the "simple, modern man" as Yeats was maybe reluctant to do. but it may be on account of being an American...
the Technique of Collage is contemporaneously VITAL! can you imagine the 21st centaury apart it?
Eileen Atkins is so young! A great reader & lovely looking. 😍
I could read this poem every day for a year and still not come to its end.
I spent a summer reading and re-reading it - looking up the allusions, the snippets in other languages, the critical commentary, the context. It really does pay off with repeated reading and study. I teach it to my seniors now.
Try reading it for 30 years and never tiring of it
@@Lyndanet I will! :)
You can't get through it either, huh?
The poem was published exactly 100 years ago in the October issue of _The Criterion_ #TheWasteLand100
What a masterpiece!
According to poet Craig Raine 46:04, there are three main strands in the poem: fertility myths, Christ & the resurrection, and buddhist reincarnation.
The riches of the poem are buried, crypticallly. Eliot once said that poetry must not be an easy experience. The reader is expected to to excavate with archaeologist intent. Eliot did not write for the common man.
My Gen Z student deeply connect with "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock."
They connect with this overthinking and his self-loathing.
Oh this is so powerful! To describe bleakness of spirit so well. What a genius.
I read a story once - maybe reported by Princess Margaret - that T S Elliot once gave a private reading of ' The Wasteland ' to the Windsors at Buckingham Palace .
Now we may have cause to thank the late Queen , and her parents , for contributions to Britain , but we could never accuse them of being overly intellectual.
Apparently they thought the reading hilarious and had a barely restrained fit of the giggles .
I say this to point out that appreciation of poetry is a matter of sensitivity rather than ' breeding ' .
The whole point of the Quartets was that the Waste Land and the Hollow Men was a complete and total dead end, a comprehensive mistake. Eliot himself clearly thought it was a terrible error, which he spent over fifteen years undoing. Seriously, if you compare Prufrock, the Wasteland, the Hollow Men, and the Quartets, you see the utter meaningless gibberish nature of the middle-period poems, their nihilistic nonsense. Everyone goes on and on about all the technical and ideological and historiographical qualities of the middle poems. But nobody serious or naively direct should be confused by the historic hype. It is, on its face, clearly and undistractedly, rubbish. Angry, furious, driven, pernicious rubbish.
Michael Gough is sublime, his subtlety spellbinding...👍
Yes wonderful. So many good English actors other than Johnny and Larry .
When you read Eliot's Criticism of Shakespeare, you get the feeling he secretly felt not thought, that he could do better than the latter,at certain intervals. But of course he wasn't going to mention it.
many times he is shakespearian esp in 4 quartets.
2 be i ebb,,,,and the wolf flows on..
the iconic EILEEN ATKINS.
Beautiful and prophetic. These fragments I have shored against my ruin. I will show you fear in a handful of dust. Lips that would kiss form prayers to broken stone.
T S Eliot... yes he's good & I quite like his stuff but he does tend 2b a bit overly self-consciously esoteric. Btw TSEliot spelt backwards reveals rather more than profound verse. (frm NZ)
A banker, a burglar: I sat by the waters of Meribah and wept. Ex 17; Nu 20.
I so love the plummy RP tones of the readings.
Fantastic documentary, so glad I found it..
How do I thank, youtube, for such wonderful variety! ❤
Silly question but is the the same TS Elliot responsible for “Old Possums book of practical cats” ? Sorry
Yeah, that's the guy.
bits of Dante , bits of Baudelaire, bits of Villon, bits of Laforgue...
What an ignorant statement by that talking head ' Eliot is so much better than Yeats ' such an ignorant proclamation .
Michael Gough, Edward Fox, and Eileen Atkins were absolute treasures. Listening to them is a magnificent experience.
Enjoyed this, especially the actors. Thank you for posting.
What a wonderful film, Eileen Atkins is superb too. Yes,I am very impressed with this measured piece of work.
What a special nose. Not my favorite piece. Words that cld be written by any witness. Frost said it better. Give me a William Blake anyway. The truth is, poets, writers, artists are as good as the era they live in or their peers. This was a shallow lost reaching era-therefore reflected in the writer of 'Wasteland '. The title is his best line
PS I DID NOW JUST SUBSCRIBE. GREAT DOCUMENTARIES! Well done whether I like the poet or not. They are our written history
Does anybody know who narrated this doc? Voice is so familiar, but I can't place it. Driving me crazy.
It is Melvyn Bragg who himself contributed much to English cultural life .
Subtitle wrong for 6:11, 12:54 and 13:24. He doesn't say 'Pathos' but 'Bathos'. 'Pathos' would be out of place. At 21:31, PAckroyd says 'bits of Villon' (subtitled as INAUDIBLE), which is François Villon, French poet of the Late Middle Ages. Funny that the documentary doesn't mention that "He Do the Police in Different Voices" (26:35) is an allusion to Dickens's novel Our Mutual Friend, where one Sloppy says he can give to 'Mrs Higden the Police-news in different voices.'
Such an amazing poem, Burroughs mentioned it as an example of the cut-up technique.
April is the cruelest month. Indeed..
Nobody gets to be this famous for so long any more. People write and write, and never get attention, or crowds of people analyzing and studying them. We are all screaming into the void, babbling like the Tower Of Babel, nobody being heard or understood.
Modern academia in a nutshell.
free palestine and we are in april now i can say aprill is the crullest month
Beethoven's late quartets are not totally about suffering.
They’re not “about” anything.
@@markofsaltburn exact 😂
21:35 "...echoes of Villon, " For Francois Villon, XV C. french poet.
Speak again, to us, Villon.
Prufrock still blows this away.
The comments by Mr.Raine that Eliot is “ greater than Yeats”and that “ every thing in twentieth century poetry is founded “ on him are laughable on their face to anyone who has read and understood early twentieth century poetry in English and the modernist movement, about which Mr. Raine should educate himself. Pound( who isn’t even mentioned,a sure sign that Mr. Raine doesn’t know what he’s talking about),Yeats and Eliot …all three… are the triumvirate of poets upon whom twentieth century poetry in English is founded. There is a substantial body of scholarship and criticism which attests to this , which Mr. Raine might profit from reading, beginning with Hugh Kenner’s The Pound Era . He might take a look at Pound’s revisions of the Waste Land in manuscript at Yale’s Beinecke Library; I, for one, have read them.
pound was "il melior fabbro" eliot was the true artist. yeats was ust average.
@@siamcharm7904 First of all, it’s” il miglior fabbro”, “the better maker”(craftsman).Eliot recognized Pound for his superiority at prosody,ie he was for Eliot the greater artist, but of course your opinion is more valid than Eliot’s 😁😁😁. Yeats was certainly one of the five greatest poets in English of the 20th century,as many poets, critics, scholars and others have attested, but of course your opinion is more valid 😁😁😁 You have made some of the most ignorant and stupid comments on poetry ever, EVER.
Don't think he doesn't know what he's talking about, merely that he's a young academic with predictably strong views. He also doesn't mention the oft-unmentioned but highly accomplished (and by some called an) early modernist Thomas Hardy's later poetry, admired by both Eliot and Pound.
@@castelodeossos3947 He doesn’t know what he’s talking about,” a young academic with predictably strong views “( apparently he’s a poet).
The only thing that I can’t stand about the Waste Land is the fact that I didn’t write it
16:57 Every time they show this guy I picture Alex and his droogs rushing in, toppling his bookshelves and having at him and his wife.
== "Singing in the rain..."
Ha ha, yep! Substitute Patrick Magee for that guy...
He bears a slight resemblance to Rowan Atkinson.
Hello, do you happen to know the specific recording of Beethovens 15th String Quartet that plays in the introductory and the ending segments? Or the name of the quartet that is playing?
Wonderful! Not seen this for over 30 years.
I absolutely love your channel
What is the use of writing a poem like the WASTE LAND which most of the educated people fail to appreciate easily ?
It's high art.
Excellent, Hectic Hector humbled by Valient Achilles! From east to West the twine shall meet since it ended in peace manthra, Shanti the tender leaves🍂 have become green, yellow, brown and black to become dusty dust that's all. Sky
Yes, Atkins is truly great ❤
Look for "He do the police in different voices," a line from "Our Mutual Friend" by Dickens. This is apparently where Eliot got the idea and title for the original version of "The Waste Land."
Mwwwellvan Brraggg is such a sad little egomaniac...Spitting Image had him to T (& I do not mean TS ..lol)...he is a flea on the dog of literature.
"The population should be homogeneous; where two or more cultures exist in the same place they are likely either to be fiercely self-conscious or both to become adulterate. What is still more important is unity of religious background, and reasons of race and religion combine to make any large number of free-thinking Jews undesirable."
T.S. Eliot
Sad.
Jesus. What bullshit.
The only one single poem which has the status of a classic; a classic of epic proportions, I remember how e I electrified we were when this poem was taught to us by our English professor way back in the early 70s,
Can I advise anyone who loves and admires this poem as much as I do to listen to Alec Guiness reading it. TS Eliot reading it here is awful. Guiness’ reading is absolutely sublime. The different voices that Eliot uses for the work really need an accomplished actor to do them justice.
Agree, his reading of journey of the magi is sublime
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I haven’t heard that. But it’s something I definitely want to listen to now
Jeremy Irons reading the Four Quartets is quite special.
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Thanks for that suggestion
Yes, it's a fantastic reading. My students love that it's Obi-Wan Kenobi. Hahaha.
If you have a lisp and you talk like Elmer Fudd, pronouncing your r's like w's, maybe dont inflict your voice-by-interview on us unttil you receive some speech therapy? Thank you.
Eliot was a fine poet and an important one, but there were others who didn't wear their learning on their sleeve as Eliot and Pound did. Robert Frost once said "Eliot and Pound were into bric-a-brac. They studied that." He was alluding to their allusions to works of literature that few had read, certainly not the common reader. Other poets such as Walt Whitman, Emily Dickinson, Wallace Stevens, William Carlos Williams, E.E. Cummings, Elizabeth Bishop, Marianne Moore, and many other poets. Some poets are not well-known, but their works are considered important by some who are aware of their work. Poets such as Josephine Miles, Louise Bogan, Edna St. Vincent Millay; but there are others who go unrecognized whose poetry is remarkable. Bert Meyers comes to mind as do poems by Benjamin Saltman, Ann Stanford, and a plethora of others whose poems few have read.
There is much to like beyond Eliot and Pound. Is Eliot's contribution to poetry really more important than Robert Frost's poetry, or sundry others whose is far less known? A professor of mine once asked me who I thought was a fine poet. I mentioned Carl Sandburg. He replied, "Don't be so typically bucolic, Mr. Campbell." I thanked him and he said, "It was not intended as a compliment." I said, "I receive it as one, Dr. Williams, I am a bucolic."
Eliot's "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" is one of my favorite poems, It is a strikingly beautiful original work. Personally, I prefer the poetry of William Stafford to Eliot. There are books of poems such as James Wright's "The Branch will not Break" that are lyrically stunning; Robert Francis' "The Orb Weaver" also published by Wesleyan University Press, is another collection of poems that is quite memorable.
Recently, I have come to appreciate the poetry of Dana Gioia. His collected poems in his book, "99 Poems" is excellent. A poet can write great poetry and not be known. How many readers, college students among them, know Eugenio Montale's poems. How many discuss the poems of French poets Jacques Prevert or Francois Dodat; Was not Charles Baudelaire as original a poet as Eliot or Pound? One of the annoying things about such documentaries is there is so much more to appreciate than is represented here. One should also include the lyrics of songwriters such as Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Gordon Lightfoot, Leonard Cohen, Cat Stevens, and countless others.
If one is honest, much of Eliot's work is enigmatic. That said, we are better having gone there.
I can do without the poetry fan hyperbole, thank you very much. if you took all that rubbish out this would be about 75% shorter.
"Fear, in a handful of dust."
A perfect line.
A Dash Of Hope
Sometimes I wake up
Listen to the birds
And my heart is glad
My spirit elevated
'Oh' says a part of me
An impulse crying out
'I've got to share this
With my mom!'
Deep down
A younger me imagines
He will make a call
And mother will be there
To answer
And enjoy my good news
To share our love
For nature
But soon
A bitter scythe
Cuts shorr
My hope
My naive daydream
And I fall
A thousand miles
Im a split second
To a place
Where my mother is not
To the everpresent now
Where my lovely old mom
No longer exists
Eric Christen 2020
(Nobody Famous - a book of 150 poems dedicated to a mother)
Fair play to you mate,I was impressed with your words, thanks for sharing them. Keep writing and try to enjoy it too.
انا ...اليعازر العائد من الموت ...جئت كي اقول لكم جميعا ...ولكن ليس هذا هو ما عنيته ...ليس هذا هو المعنى بالمرة ...............نعم ،انه لم يعد من الموت كي يواصل حساب الايام بملعقة القهوة !
Can never get enough of Eliot’s beautiful mind
Good Ol' Marist Brother Roger, resorted to caning Working Class State House, mostly Irish Catholics under divers influence from Dodgy Eye ties, to teach non readers Vocabulary Grammar and Spelling, distracting us from shagging Third Formers from Hutt High and Rugby. "Murder in The Cathedral" and this Poetry, perhaps surprisingly fell on listening ears.
Ackroyd speaks of Eliot's "music," which recalls Ackroyd's novel "English Music".
a multi-voiced, distracted, frenetic, sub-referentially schizophrenic dramatic visionary lyric bewailing and intoning a fractured and misdirected civilization ... an enduring and indelible impact upon the Modern and beyond