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I mean, he was an alcoholic it sounds like, which is, at seed, a disease of perception. Living 2 lives and thankfully had supportive fellow authors of some talent❤. Imagine had he fallen in with some neverdowell drinking pals in the local pubs😂
The 1980s was a great period for these sorts of documentaries. There are similar ones of quality on Orwell and Waugh from the same period...made when people who knew the authors were still alive.
The score is by: Seóirse Bodley (pronounced [ˈʃoːɾˠʃə]; 4 April 1933 - 17 November 2023) was an Irish composer and associate professor of music at University College Dublin (UCD). He was the first composer to become a Saoi of Aosdána, in 2008. Bodley is widely regarded as one of the most important composers of twentieth-century art music in Ireland, having been "integral to Irish musical life since the second half of the twentieth century, not just as a composer, but also as a teacher, arranger, accompanist, adjudicator, broadcaster, and conductor". [Wikipedia] I've made enquiries to see if it was ever released, but it would seem not, being just recorded for this documentary. I have always been taken by it as it recalls what I would call the parlour tradition of Ireland's Victorian age and ballads by the likes of George Moore, Brendan Balfe and Percy French.
Right.. Linguistics and english understandings are heavily underappreciated and rarely seen in today's society,though it would be hard for new english speakers or children..
This documentary is filled to the brim with information on Joyce's Werdegang, snippets of interviews, impressions of Dublin, Triest, Zürich, Rome, Paris. It moved me, I love it.
Thank you very much for uploading this great documentary about James Joyce. I am about to visit Dublin for the first time this year and obviously I am going on the 16th of June. James Joyce transformed me as a writer, he freed me from my inner critic. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I am no James Joyce, BUT I did get suspended from primary school after writing my first poem which was: 'When the toilet light was dim, I heard a crash! and then a splash! My God, he's fallin' in.'
Thank you for posting this. It is a remarkable documentary embellished by Joyce's milieu that gives a glimpse of how this artist par excellence lived, worked and understood or misunderstood. It is an inspirational story for any aspiring artist as well as any man/woman who finds himself/herself alienated in the world. One also has to give credit to women who enabled this great man to become who he is today by supporting him financially, intellectually and emotionally.
Such a lovely ode to the life of Mr. Joyce. Loved all of the original accounts and architecture shots. Just a beautiful production all around. Thanks for posting ❤
Thank you for this superb piece on a literary giant, one whose only work that is accessible and intelligible to ordinary people like me is The Portrait of ... but at least now I can appreciate the totality of his genius and his person.
Wonderful documentary of this wonderful man whom i knew so little about. Beautiful.engaging commentary throughout! I now want to read some of his books. Thank you
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That line at 49:24 made me laugh out loud... such a pithy and true window into Joyce's mindset. I am in love with this documentary almost as much as I am with Joyce himself. Thanks for uploading this gem, Manufacturing Intellect!
Thank you so much for this Upload! I cannot tell you how important having this Documentary is to me, as it prompted me to return to work on an Article I'm composing on Finnegans Wake!
Just watched Part 1. Very nicely done. It"s amazing how so much more beautiful the world seems back in 1986 let alone 1904. Maybe he was wrong to be so down on nostalgia. After all he was pretty soppy about Nora and 'Blooms-day" is now a ' Holy-day".
Danke sehr! Muy amable de su parte. S'il vous plaît Il y a besoin de cette sort de documentaires toujours. It's the very first time in my life I know completely my favorite writer's bio. En verdad muchísimas gracias.
An overview of a brilliant story teller.. ..remembered for his perspective on what was true throughout his life of being an exile from his country of birth..
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So lovely to have a conventional documentary without the silly reenactments but at the same time, way too PG. Still a joy to watch and there are too few documentaries on any writers these days.
Uh oh! Now that you're done with Ulysses, there's only one more big fish to catch, Rabiraj. Onwards, onwards, onwards to Finnegans Wake. Grab A Skeleton Key to Finnegans Wake by Joseph Campbell and you'll be fine. Also, find a partner to read it with to bounce ideas off and on, and this will make it a lot more fun. You might even start a group to do this with. The more the merrier.
Reading the wake alone is like swimming under water. If you're a mammal, it's better to come to the surface once in a while, and share your confusion and your discoveries with others. You can do this in a university class, or with a group of friends that dig the wake. This website is place to do that. You are doing that yourself when you comment and read here with us. I will visit the website you recommended. Thanks for the tip. Tip. Tip top. Top tip tup type! U.P.:Up.
@Ron Maimon No it didn't. If you think the meaning of FW is clear as day, you don't get it, Ron. The book is meant to be, or not to be confusing. Some parts are easy, some parts are difficult, some parts are impossible to decipher. Joyce designed it to be a word jungle, like the Tunc page of the Book of Kells. It's like the Kaballah for ex catholics. It's meant to be infinite, and beautiful, and Satanic, and divine, and inscrutable, and erotic, and scholarly, and subversive, and humorous.... There is more under heaven and earth than are met with in your philosophy, Horatio. Don't be so dependent on the computer shit, Ron. The scholarly footnotes from finn.wake were figured out by lifelong readers, after multiple readings, with much work. Some of this work you should be doing on your own. You should read the novel independently, making your own notes, and coming to your own conclusions. Use the footnotes when you get stuck. Of course reading the Wake would be easy for you, if you substitute the scholarly footnotes, glosses, and interpretations from the last 90 years of close reading, as your own efforts, and not the efforts of others. Computers are unnecessary for reading and appreciating Finnegans Wake. Joyce wrote his novel without a computer. At some point, as his eyesight became problematic, he wrote the Wake in crayon. Most people who bothered to read the book, from 1922 to 1939, when it was composed, read it in fragments. From 1939 to the 1990s, most people did not use computer resources to read or analyze the Wake. Today, computer resources make the whale of FW much more manageable however. The finn.wake site you mentioned is interesting, but not homerun, by any means. The brown background, the highlighted text in yellow, and the white text are pretty hard on the eyes. This would have to be improved to make the site useful to more people. The footnotes in black text were very good though. But like FW from 1922 to 1939, this website you dote on is a work in progress!
@Ron Maimon Oh, good for you Horatio! Then you admit that Finnegans Wake is a difficult text to read, abandoning your previous sophmoric position? I've only read it twice myself, once in 1973 before the massive adaptation of computers, and for a second time last year with a buddy of mine from my hometown. Though he has a Phd. from M.I.T., he had a surprisingly supple reading of the text, and contributed much to our group. I mostly prefered the Skeleton Key of Joseph Campbell as a guide, reinforced by the JJ Quarterly, and he preferred using a new text he found, Riverrun To Livvy by Bill Cole Cliett, which we both enjoyed. This book concentrates on using the first page of the Wake as a template for understanding the entire "Bug of the Deaf." We thought that this group would have five to ten folks, but we only had three people in toto. It was supposed to help people reading it for the first time. That being said, you don't need a computer to read the Wake. People have been reading it since 1922 adequately without the computer resources. I think reading the text is paramount. The glosses and footnotes are important too, in getting a deeper appreciation of Joyce's grand design, but they are of secondary importance. I disagree with you that Finnegans Wake is greatest book ever written. Surely it's an amazing and wonderful book. But it's not a book for everybody. I wish Joyce had spent his time at writing parts two and three of Ulysses, and then writing another thirty or forty short stories, continuing on from Dubliners. FW would have been better off left as a literary experiment, of a hundred pages or thereabouts. If he had taken this more conservative approach, he might have won the Nobel Prize that he so wanted. Wouldn't it be great to have another two parts of Ulysses to read? Also, I dig short stories, and I wouldn't mind having another 30/40 stories to read by him. Think of what that stuff could have contained? In my view, Joyce spending 1922 to 1939 on just FW was a poor use of his talent. You don't need to be nearly indecipherable to be considered an important writer. Unfortunately, he decided to do this, and what the world lost, is not adequately substituted by the occasional and sporadic inspiration of FW. FW is surely an elitist text, not read much in colleges or grad schools. That being said, most great books are, and continue to be unpopular and unread by the reading public. as a lit
Seeing how so many great 20th century authors were slighted out of it, even in times when they had little competition like Sebald and Bernhard, it's not even something desirable.
It's given "in the field of literature [to] the most outstanding [total body of] work in an ideal direction," generally understood to be moral/cultural as opposed to stylistic innovation. That coupled with Joyce's rejection of Country and Catholicism, plus his only producing four major works, two of which are readable with no assistance to the general public, weights the prize against him. The Swedish Academy also presumably view his later works as extremely vulgar. For juxtaposition, Faulkner did win with modernist (post-Joycean) prose, but his works are more easily understood and usually have a moral message. But the fact Leo Tolstoy didn't win with clear prose, ideal direction, etc etc, kind of invalidates the authority of their opinion in toto. Just my 2 cents.
1:08:55 The way the narrator dismisses Italo Svevo as a 'Triestine Jewish novelist." You are talking about one of the greatest novelist of the century, man!
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James joyce work always blow my mind away,with how deep his work true it is. It will pull in this black hole of deepers. What saying is he know how to show what people are like.
along with Shakespeare, James Joyce is the greatest master of the written (or spoken/sung) word. to me, at least... his talent is as awesome to me as the night sky, beyond the ken of nonentities like me. but the thing about Joyce’s work is that all that genius and he still wrote about the little people...
But him writing about ‘little people’ is irony because little people or the ordinary man and woman can’t read Ulysses unless they have an elite education. It’s not possibly to read Ulysses unless you have read homer, Dante and have a grasp of Latin. Joyce is elitist and for the ivory tower. There should be no pretending that he’s for the common man. He’s a pure elitist at heart and remain so until his death
@@TerryStewart32 I think one can read Joyce if they know how to read. You’ll get a better grasp if you knows Latin and have read Homer, Dante but it’s by no means required. Dubliners without a doubt can be read by anyone with basic reading skills. And Ulysses was the most rewarding read of my life and I have no formal education. I think you’re speaking too much for a group that you’re not a part of. Joyce is for people who’ve lived and loved
Well done. Certain interpretations of the facts of Joyce's life are being revisited & updated, of course, including his relationship with his daughter Lucia. A recent biography of Lucia--who was a dedicated, disciplined & talented dancer--argues that it was her father James Joyce who put an end to her dancing career, for his own convenience. From wikipedia: "James reasoned that the intense physical training for ballet caused Lucia undue stress, which in turn exacerbated the long-standing animosity between her and her mother Nora. The resulting incessant domestic squabbles prevented work on Finnegans Wake. James convinced her she should turn to drawing lettrines to illustrate his prose and forgo her deep-seated artistic inclinations. To his patron Harriet Shaw Weaver, James Joyce wrote that this resulted in "a month of tears as she thinks she has thrown away three or four years of hard work and is sacrificing a talent".
Blame? Really? Lucia was like Zelda. They were nuts. And neither would have ever been a first-rate dancer. I read an interesting remark-Lucia was falling into what James Joyce was diving into. Also, if I wanted to be a dancer and my father said no, well, come on, I'd be a dancer. I think Joyce and Fitzgerald were out of their depths but so were the wife, and the daughter. I don't see why there should have even been a biography of Lucia, same with Eliot's wife, her biography is longer than his, by the way. I can't recall her name. How about this? How about blaming the person rather than anyone else. Does no one have free will?
How interesting. I find such a family dynamic quite plausible. I don’t read any blame into the description. However, an ambition to be a great artist could maybe infringe on ones ability for compassionate behaviour towards others. Just a thought. I’m grateful that none of my parents had great artistic ambitions during my childhood.
JJ knew her better than anyone else. He also had to deal with Lucia after she started attacking her Mother. Which the account you cited didn’t mention.
Certain writers bravely express themselves in new language - lay it bare and open, Shake up and spill it out, in ways that changed everything, for all time. And for everyone who would follow: Three come immediately to mind though there would be others - Walt Whitman, Thomas Wolfe, and James Joyce. LEAVES OF GRASS, LOOK HOMEWARD ANGEL, ULYSSES....
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❤️🙏👏, James Joyce's unique abilities to write as no other writer, except Shakespeare maybe will burn throughout history. I rejoice with him forevermore. Beautiful documentary on this remarkable human being. Ireland has to be proud today with affection. Regardless of how many years have transpired. History will make sure that it will and I am assuredly fretting with laughter.🤣❤
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Yes, that amused me when they talked about his contribution to ENGLISH literature ! I presume they are referring to the language rather than the culture.
I like the short stories by James Joyce better than his novels. He writes cleaner and less streams of consciousness. If you like James Joyce, and would like to try his short stories, then look for The Dubliners. Ernest Hemingway considered The Dubliners to be some of the best writing.
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🌌🌠🚪The work might have disappeared altogether, if it were not for the efforts of James Joyce. Joyce had met Svevo in 1907, when Joyce tutored him in English, while working for Berlitz in Trieste.[2] Joyce read Svevo's earlier novels, Una Vita and Senilità.[2]
My Psychoanalyst Father, Rolf R. Loehrich, (R.I.P.) wrote "THE SECRET OF ULYSSES." It's used as a textbook to study Joyce at the University of British Columbia. xo Rosemary Storm (daught calm).
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The Roman's made many a great mind, artist to exile..Bravo Joyce not becoming stagnate! All brave, free thinkers appreciate Joyce. America loves James Joyce! Well done documentary. I will add that Finnegans Wake was totally new, but it'd be more accepted if he wrote the word jibberish a 1000 times lol. Funny tho how in the end he was that Roman Catholic superstitious, proper prude
“There are artists who’ll wrest us up & place is into themselves & into there works. These are the ones who’ll continue to wrest us up. Far & beyond their appointed rests in peace.” -William Gilpin 102421
The nets of religion nationalism and, language, Yet Joyces aesthetics were,,,steeped in the school of old Aquinas,,,he was a lifelong Parnellite,,,F,W, is full of Irish words, Yet Joyce was a skeptic a cosmopolitan European and fluent in many languages, He said of Yeats ,,,,he is too old for me to help him,Yet he translated Yeats into French, A complex man was Jimmy Joyce, I recommend a 1958 book by Padraic/Mary Colum Our Friend James Joyce
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"He understood the world better than the world understood him." Wonderful portrait.
As with anyone awakened
Interesting.
Haw
He was boring to the rest of the world and facinating to himself.
I mean, he was an alcoholic it sounds like, which is, at seed, a disease of perception. Living 2 lives and thankfully had supportive fellow authors of some talent❤. Imagine had he fallen in with some neverdowell drinking pals in the local pubs😂
For any one interested in James Joyce, this documentary is definitive pure gold.
The 1980s was a great period for these sorts of documentaries. There are similar ones of quality on Orwell and Waugh from the same period...made when people who knew the authors were still alive.
Agreed. It's definitely the best. I declare it carried!
Is there a documentary with more on his work? I'm more interested in learning about that than about his personal life.
OMG I know! I just posted my sentence here too, said same thing!
@Ping Bong James Joyce. Everything about him was poetic somehow.
I wish that I had seen this BRILLIANT documentary when it was first shown when I was but 40 years old, instead of 78 as I am now.
Back in those days, tv content was made beautiful. I hope you had a great life, sir.
I wish I lived back in those days.
I love the music, who’s with me on this??
Me! And I’ve been unable to figure out what it is!
@@gavinyoung-philosophy anyone found it by now?
@@hysibarvonralnion3554 Not that I know of…
Oh yes very good combo
The score is by: Seóirse Bodley (pronounced [ˈʃoːɾˠʃə]; 4 April 1933 - 17 November 2023) was an Irish composer and associate professor of music at University College Dublin (UCD). He was the first composer to become a Saoi of Aosdána, in 2008. Bodley is widely regarded as one of the most important composers of twentieth-century art music in Ireland, having been "integral to Irish musical life since the second half of the twentieth century, not just as a composer, but also as a teacher, arranger, accompanist, adjudicator, broadcaster, and conductor". [Wikipedia]
I've made enquiries to see if it was ever released, but it would seem not, being just recorded for this documentary. I have always been taken by it as it recalls what I would call the parlour tradition of Ireland's Victorian age and ballads by the likes of George Moore, Brendan Balfe and Percy French.
Brilliant documentary. So much TV has gone backwards. Someone talking knowledgeably with a few pictures and clips is all that is needed.
I like German documentaries on Phoenix channel. They are as you say with no fuss or whizz bang
Right.. Linguistics and english understandings are heavily underappreciated and rarely seen in today's society,though it would be hard for new english speakers or children..
That’s why Ken Burns documentaries are so good.
I felt like applauding at the end, it was that good!
@@thelastkiwii322 the word English should be capitalized.
Exquisite - Fabulous life .Thank you for this program .
This documentary is filled to the brim with information on Joyce's Werdegang, snippets of interviews, impressions of Dublin, Triest, Zürich, Rome, Paris. It moved me, I love it.
Excellent no- frills documentary of a man with extraordinary talent and reassuring honesty about what it means to be human
The narration is a delight ! T P McKenna’ s voice is perfect
After being broken up with, I have come to seek refuge in the arms of my first love: James Joyce's literature
Hang in their. When you run out of Joyce there is tons of Proust❤
Try some Maugham..😂
Absolutely wonderful.
I recommend to all my friends.
Priceless and makes me eager to read
everything that he has done.
Thank you.
Superb doc.Its tone just right.Bits of Joyce's Dublin still exists.
What a wonderful video of a complicated intelligence that so often and almost always is misunderstood. James Joyce and great man for sure.
Ask his wife, his siblings and people who knew him if he was a great man. He might be a great writer but he most certainly was NOT a great man.
Thank you very much for uploading this great documentary about James Joyce. I am about to visit Dublin for the first time this year and obviously I am going on the 16th of June. James Joyce transformed me as a writer, he freed me from my inner critic. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I hope everything lived up to your dreams, kisses from Dublin, Ireland ☘️🍀🌹
@@joanne1dreams Thank you for the message but unfortunately, I had to cancel the visit... Life can be tricky sometimes
I'm sorry to hear that, hopefully you can visit for Bloom's Day soon 🌺🌻🌸
I am no James Joyce, BUT I did get suspended from primary school after writing my first poem which was:
'When the toilet light was dim,
I heard a crash! and then a splash!
My God, he's fallin' in.'
You had incredible taste and exquisite sensitivity at a remarkable early age
people got suspensions for THAT?
Lies.
Catholicism and catholic school is the definition of trauma for some. ❤
I would have thought there was an obvious rhyme with 'rim'.
Thank you for posting this. It is a remarkable documentary embellished by Joyce's milieu that gives a glimpse of how this artist par excellence lived, worked and understood or misunderstood. It is an inspirational story for any aspiring artist as well as any man/woman who finds himself/herself alienated in the world. One also has to give credit to women who enabled this great man to become who he is today by supporting him financially, intellectually and emotionally.
Bless you 🙏 ♥️ 🙌 💖 💓 ❤️ 🙏 ♥️
Such a lovely ode to the life of Mr. Joyce. Loved all of the original accounts and architecture shots. Just a beautiful production all around. Thanks for posting ❤
Thank you for this superb piece on a literary giant, one whose only work that is accessible and intelligible to ordinary people like me is The Portrait of ... but at least now I can appreciate the totality of his genius and his person.
What a boon to future Joyce scholars and fans. Many primary sources speaking (and singing).
Spot on. Informative. Excellent commentary. The music is an absolute joy.A credit to all concerned.
A remarkable piece picking up the ID pieces of who was and still is, James Joyce. Thank you.
Wonderful documentary of this wonderful man whom i knew so little about. Beautiful.engaging commentary throughout! I now want to read some of his books. Thank you
Giorgio Joyce truly did have a nice warm and full voice.
I salute you on your works of art for your own people and places . Documentry is made with full spirit 😍.
"Masterpiece. Work on.James Joyce . I am Enjoying it from PATNA. ( INDIA ). Bravo !
Greetings to Patna, India. I have visited Patna in Scotland.
This was beyond perfection for me.
I loved the entire clip, if I invest my time then my wish is to learn more.
Thank you ever so much.
Australia.
It was pleasure to see this film about Joyce.
A gem of a compilation. Thank you. April 2022
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Thoroughly enjoyed that beautiful film .I go with friends every blooms day to celebrate in Dublin .
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Thank you deeply for such a deep and exhilarating experience. I am sad now to leave to sleep perhaps to dream.
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As an ignoramus this helps provide me context for A Portrait. Love it
That line at 49:24 made me laugh out loud... such a pithy and true window into Joyce's mindset. I am in love with this documentary almost as much as I am with Joyce himself. Thanks for uploading this gem, Manufacturing Intellect!
EXCELLENT. I LEARNED THE MOST OF LIFE WHEN I LIVED IN DUBLIN.
Thank you very mutch for this masterpiece 💜 ❤️ 🙏 👏 💖 💕 💜 ❤️ 🙏 bless you 🙏 ♥️ 🙌 💖 💓 ❤️ 🙏 ♥️
This is one of my favorite writers in the world
Thank you so much for this Upload!
I cannot tell you how important having this Documentary is to me, as it prompted me to return to work on an Article I'm composing on Finnegans Wake!
Good luck with Finnegans Wake.
Happy Bloomsday all readers of Ulysses! Thanks for posting this
Thanks for sharing it with us. This doc is amazing!
Richness here. Treasure for the soul, so much more his repertoire!!
Just watched Part 1. Very nicely done. It"s amazing how so much more beautiful the world seems back in 1986 let alone 1904. Maybe he was wrong to be so down on nostalgia. After all he was pretty soppy about Nora and 'Blooms-day" is now a ' Holy-day".
Danke sehr! Muy amable de su parte. S'il vous plaît Il y a besoin de cette sort de documentaires toujours. It's the very first time in my life I know completely my favorite writer's bio.
En verdad muchísimas gracias.
This is marvellous. Thank you very much.
"There's no word tender enough to be you'r name." - James Joyce / The Dead
An overview of a brilliant story teller.. ..remembered for his perspective on what was true throughout his life of being an exile from his country of birth..
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"Forty towns contend for Homer dead/ who living had to beg his daily bread."
So lovely to have a conventional documentary without the silly reenactments but at the same time, way too PG. Still a joy to watch and there are too few documentaries on any writers these days.
A remarkable video.Many thanks to all concerned.It is a treasure.
I've only just discovered this gem.
Having completed Ulysses and loving every page of it, I felt this documentary was really an insightful and excellent one :)
Uh oh! Now that you're done with Ulysses, there's only one more big fish to catch, Rabiraj. Onwards, onwards, onwards to Finnegans Wake. Grab A Skeleton Key to Finnegans Wake by Joseph Campbell and you'll be fine. Also, find a partner to read it with to bounce ideas off and on, and this will make it a lot more fun. You might even start a group to do this with. The more the merrier.
Yes , Ulysses , is quite worthy of reading. .
Reading the wake alone is like swimming under water. If you're a mammal, it's better to come to the surface once in a while, and share your confusion and your discoveries with others. You can do this in a university class, or with a group of friends that dig the wake. This website is place to do that. You are doing that yourself when you comment and read here with us. I will visit the website you recommended. Thanks for the tip. Tip. Tip top. Top tip tup type! U.P.:Up.
@Ron Maimon No it didn't. If you think the meaning of FW is clear as day, you don't get it, Ron. The book is meant to be, or not to be confusing. Some parts are easy, some parts are difficult, some parts are impossible to decipher.
Joyce designed it to be a word jungle, like the Tunc page of the Book of Kells. It's like the Kaballah
for ex catholics. It's meant to be infinite, and beautiful, and Satanic,
and divine, and inscrutable, and erotic, and scholarly, and subversive, and humorous....
There is more under heaven and earth than are met with in your
philosophy, Horatio.
Don't be so dependent on the computer shit, Ron. The scholarly footnotes from finn.wake were figured out by lifelong readers,
after multiple readings, with much work. Some of this work you should be doing on your own.
You should read the novel independently, making your own notes, and coming to your own conclusions. Use the footnotes when you get stuck. Of course reading the Wake would be easy for you, if you substitute the scholarly footnotes, glosses, and interpretations from the last 90 years of close reading, as your own efforts, and not the efforts of others.
Computers are unnecessary for reading and appreciating Finnegans Wake. Joyce wrote his novel without a computer. At some point, as his eyesight became problematic, he wrote the Wake in crayon. Most people who bothered to read the book, from 1922 to 1939, when it was composed, read it in fragments. From 1939 to the 1990s, most people did not use computer resources to read or analyze the Wake.
Today, computer resources make the whale of FW much more manageable however. The finn.wake site you mentioned is
interesting, but not homerun, by any means. The brown background, the highlighted text in yellow, and the white text are pretty hard on the eyes. This would have to be improved to make the site useful to more people. The footnotes in black text were very good though.
But like FW from 1922 to 1939,
this website you dote on is a work in progress!
@Ron Maimon Oh, good for you Horatio! Then you admit that Finnegans Wake is a difficult text
to read, abandoning your previous sophmoric position? I've only read it twice myself, once in 1973 before the massive adaptation of computers, and for a second time last year with a buddy of mine from my hometown. Though he has a Phd. from M.I.T., he had a surprisingly supple reading of the text, and contributed much to our group. I mostly prefered the Skeleton Key of Joseph Campbell
as a guide, reinforced by the JJ Quarterly, and he preferred using a new text he found, Riverrun To Livvy by Bill Cole Cliett, which we both enjoyed. This book concentrates on using the first page of the Wake as a template for understanding the entire "Bug of the Deaf." We thought that this group would have five to ten folks, but we only had three people in toto. It was supposed to help people reading it for the first time.
That being said, you don't need a computer to read the Wake. People have been reading it since 1922 adequately without the computer resources. I think reading the text is paramount.
The glosses and footnotes are important too, in getting a deeper
appreciation of Joyce's grand design, but they are of secondary
importance.
I disagree with you that Finnegans Wake is greatest book ever written. Surely it's an amazing and wonderful book. But it's not a book for everybody. I wish Joyce had spent his time at writing parts two and three of Ulysses, and then
writing another thirty or forty short stories, continuing on from Dubliners. FW would have been better off left as a literary experiment, of a hundred pages
or thereabouts. If he had taken this more conservative approach, he might have won the Nobel Prize that he so wanted. Wouldn't it be great to have another two parts of Ulysses to read? Also, I dig short stories, and I wouldn't mind having another 30/40 stories to read by him. Think of what that stuff could have contained? In my view, Joyce spending 1922 to 1939 on
just FW was a poor use of his talent. You don't need to be nearly indecipherable to be considered an important writer. Unfortunately, he decided to do this, and what the world lost, is not adequately substituted by the occasional
and sporadic inspiration of FW.
FW is surely an elitist text, not read much in colleges or grad schools.
That being said, most great books
are, and continue to be unpopular and unread by the reading public.
as a lit
A literary genius ,unique,way ahead of his time
Wonderful documentary. Thank you very much for the upload.
YES FINALLY JOYCE MY ALL TIME FAVORITE!!!
I love this UA-cam Channel
I think it is a travesty that Joyce was never awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature.
Stately plump Buck Mulligan...
Seeing how so many great 20th century authors were slighted out of it, even in times when they had little competition like Sebald and Bernhard, it's not even something desirable.
Don't worry. Now that they have awarded it to Bob Dylan, we need not take it seriously any more.
It's given "in the field of literature [to] the most outstanding [total body of] work in an ideal direction," generally understood to be moral/cultural as opposed to stylistic innovation. That coupled with Joyce's rejection of Country and Catholicism, plus his only producing four major works, two of which are readable with no assistance to the general public, weights the prize against him. The Swedish Academy also presumably view his later works as extremely vulgar. For juxtaposition, Faulkner did win with modernist (post-Joycean) prose, but his works are more easily understood and usually have a moral message. But the fact Leo Tolstoy didn't win with clear prose, ideal direction, etc etc, kind of invalidates the authority of their opinion in toto. Just my 2 cents.
@@HundreadD I believe Sartre refused it
I had a lot of trouble understanding Ulysses till i bought the CliffsNotes it then started making sense to me, I was determined to understand it.
Very well done! I remember fondly reading "Portrait of the Artist..." and "Dubliners" in college and being impressed.
This used to play on loop in the Joyce Museum in Dublin.
Brilliant doc! Thanks for posting!
1:08:55 The way the narrator dismisses Italo Svevo as a 'Triestine Jewish novelist." You are talking about one of the greatest novelist of the century, man!
This was AMAZING.
Thank you ever so much ♥️
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This was wonderful. An absolute pleasure to watch.
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I have much enjoyed this film, I have never read his writings ! Inspiration .
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The beat up copy of "Finnegan's Wake" in Terence McKenna's bug-out bag brought me here.
Very well done. Very enjoyable, informative narrative. Gracias
I love an English accent for documentaries. You can't beat it 😊
James joyce work always blow my mind away,with how deep his work true it is.
It will pull in this black hole of deepers.
What saying is he know how to show what people are like.
@scott matthews Dunno, 'black hole of deepers' comes across as very Joycean at first glance.
Joyce ranks with the very greatest writers, and especially for Finnegans Wake, a widely misunderstood work.
along with Shakespeare, James Joyce is the greatest master of the written (or spoken/sung) word. to me, at least...
his talent is as awesome to me as the night sky, beyond the ken of nonentities like me.
but the thing about Joyce’s work is that all that genius and he still wrote about the little people...
But him writing about ‘little people’ is irony because little people or the ordinary man and woman can’t read Ulysses unless they have an elite education. It’s not possibly to read Ulysses unless you have read homer, Dante and have a grasp of Latin. Joyce is elitist and for the ivory tower. There should be no pretending that he’s for the common man. He’s a pure elitist at heart and remain so until his death
Would you say the same if Dubliners?
@@TerryStewart32 I think one can read Joyce if they know how to read. You’ll get a better grasp if you knows Latin and have read Homer, Dante but it’s by no means required. Dubliners without a doubt can be read by anyone with basic reading skills. And Ulysses was the most rewarding read of my life and I have no formal education. I think you’re speaking too much for a group that you’re not a part of. Joyce is for people who’ve lived and loved
@@frankshrew2852 Frank, your comment is beautiful.
With all respect, but nothing can beat the night sky.
Superb doco - well done!
I ADORE READING
My first love❤
@rosamariamendoza1466 MY LOVE
Well done.
Certain interpretations of the facts of Joyce's life are being revisited & updated, of course, including his relationship with his daughter Lucia. A recent biography of Lucia--who was a dedicated, disciplined & talented dancer--argues that it was her father James Joyce who put an end to her dancing career, for his own convenience. From wikipedia: "James reasoned that the intense physical training for ballet caused Lucia undue stress, which in turn exacerbated the long-standing animosity between her and her mother Nora. The resulting incessant domestic squabbles prevented work on Finnegans Wake. James convinced her she should turn to drawing lettrines to illustrate his prose and forgo her deep-seated artistic inclinations. To his patron Harriet Shaw Weaver, James Joyce wrote that this resulted in "a month of tears as she thinks she has thrown away three or four years of hard work and is sacrificing a talent".
Blame? Really? Lucia was like Zelda. They were nuts. And neither would have ever been a first-rate dancer. I read an interesting remark-Lucia was falling into what James Joyce was diving into. Also, if I wanted to be a dancer and my father said no, well, come on, I'd be a dancer. I think Joyce and Fitzgerald were out of their depths but so were the wife, and the daughter. I don't see why there should have even been a biography of Lucia, same with Eliot's wife, her biography is longer than his, by the way. I can't recall her name. How about this? How about blaming the person rather than anyone else. Does no one have free will?
How interesting. I find such a family dynamic quite plausible. I don’t read any blame into the description. However, an ambition to be a great artist could maybe infringe on ones ability for compassionate behaviour towards others. Just a thought.
I’m grateful that none of my parents had great artistic ambitions during my childhood.
JJ knew her better than anyone else. He also had to deal with Lucia after she started attacking her Mother.
Which the account you cited didn’t mention.
@@berkeleyedit7852 What do you mean 'Joyce and Fitzgerald were out of their depths'?
Wonderfully done.
Hi Jackie how are you doing
Certain writers bravely express themselves in new language - lay it bare and open, Shake up and spill it out, in ways that changed everything, for all time. And for everyone who would follow: Three come immediately to mind though there would be others - Walt Whitman, Thomas Wolfe, and James Joyce. LEAVES OF GRASS, LOOK HOMEWARD ANGEL, ULYSSES....
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Superb, thank you for uploading.
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Enjoying the Joyce documentary. I will try to be more familiar with his work, but I'll look for some work of guidance to give me courage.
A wonderful commentary.
It seems that the Irishman was taken out of Ireland (by himself) but Ireland was never taken out of the Irishman.
I love Joyce.
Thank you, I enjoyed this biography very much.
❤️🙏👏, James Joyce's unique abilities to write as no other writer, except Shakespeare maybe will burn throughout history. I rejoice with him forevermore. Beautiful documentary on this remarkable human being. Ireland has to be proud today with affection. Regardless of how many years have transpired. History will make sure that it will and I am assuredly fretting with laughter.🤣❤
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@@frankuvlkan
Thank you again, my name is Cheri. I used Anna with all the crazy things happening in our world today.
@@cheri238 Yes you deserve the compliment. Where are you from?
Well done .
Thank you.
Outstanding ❤. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
totally absorbing ,thank you
‘Dublin pub-crawlers claim him as their own, but official Ireland rejects him. This is as it should be.’
Anthony Burgess
Naturally.
Anthony Burgess knew his stuff.
@@dukadarodear2176
And his pubs.
At the end, THEY say " THIS Englishman..."Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. He was a quintessential Irishman or - if you insist-- Anglo-Irish. He was NOT English.
Definitely not English or Anglo-Irish. Joyce was 100% an Irishman.
I missed that part???
He wasn't even Anglo-Irish protestant, let alone English. He was a Native Irish Catholic.
Yes, that amused me when they talked about his contribution to ENGLISH literature !
I presume they are referring to the language rather than the culture.
Excellent documentary.
A perfect documentary... Full stop.
James Joyce..,el hombre mas grande del siglo......
I like the short stories by James Joyce better than his novels. He writes cleaner and less streams of consciousness. If you like James Joyce, and would like to try his short stories, then look for The Dubliners. Ernest Hemingway considered The Dubliners to be some of the best writing.
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Extraordinary man! An a master of intelect! Living beyond reality!
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Happy Birthday!
One of the great Dubs!
Wonderful documentary. Thank you very much for uploading it!
🌌🌠🚪The work might have disappeared altogether, if it were not for the efforts of James Joyce. Joyce had met Svevo in 1907, when Joyce tutored him in English, while working for Berlitz in Trieste.[2] Joyce read Svevo's earlier novels, Una Vita and Senilità.[2]
My Psychoanalyst Father, Rolf R. Loehrich, (R.I.P.) wrote "THE SECRET OF ULYSSES." It's used as a textbook to study Joyce at the University of British Columbia. xo Rosemary Storm (daught calm).
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The Roman's made many a great mind, artist to exile..Bravo Joyce not becoming stagnate! All brave, free thinkers appreciate Joyce. America loves James Joyce! Well done documentary. I will add that Finnegans Wake was totally new, but it'd be more accepted if he wrote the word jibberish a 1000 times lol. Funny tho how in the end he was that Roman Catholic superstitious, proper prude
Loved his books, strange , that he never returned to Ireland. It was in his blood, forever.
“There are artists who’ll wrest us up & place is into themselves & into there works.
These are the ones who’ll continue to wrest us up.
Far & beyond their appointed rests in peace.”
-William Gilpin 102421
The nets of religion nationalism and, language, Yet Joyces aesthetics were,,,steeped in the school of old Aquinas,,,he was a lifelong Parnellite,,,F,W, is full of Irish words, Yet Joyce was a skeptic a cosmopolitan European and fluent in many languages, He said of Yeats ,,,,he is too old for me to help him,Yet he translated Yeats into French, A complex man was Jimmy Joyce, I recommend a 1958 book by Padraic/Mary Colum Our Friend James Joyce
Thank you!
Caótico y versátil. Como su obra más famosa.
Enjoyed!