@Braeden Roby you can't even spell his name right and he's stupid how? Because he's loud and confident? He actually knows the sport but ya would go ahead and agree with suggestion for XBA tf is that shit
Great little video. As a Nets fan I saw dr. J when he was still a Virginia Squire playing against the Nets and I saw him do one of those dunks which started from the foul line at the Nassau coliseum. The crowd stood up and if you could say an entire arena full of people had their jaw drop that's what it was like. You just couldn't believe what you saw cuz nobody had ever done that before. I still have my old ABA red white and blue ball and I'm proud!
Shhh....dont tell him that...Your ruining his innocence ...let the kid dream...backdoor deals are plenty ......money is always the answer...the aba knew if they took Barry McGinnis Dr j mosses isel gervin Gilmore they would eventually cause the nba to lose talent and get angry and merge..
Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez Its still a thing. its a semipro league now with a massive number of teams and they do use the striped red and blue ball.
Europe have great talent in almost every country, think about Spain, Greece, Italy, France, Serbia, Germany, Russia etc. And I know Turkey isn't s European country but even them produce good players
Honestly, I can't but notice the irony of the NBA branding themselves as the league of teamwork, fundamentals and professionalism when the Spurs, a former ABA team no less, has since become the modern poster child for all of that.
Check out the 1969 New York Knicks!!! That is team play. They played with a philosophy called "The Open Man"!!! and they employed it throughout the entire game not just from time to time. Because of this teams were not able to double team any Knick player at any time. Because if they did, they would be playing right into the Knicks hands and the Knicks would immediately capitalize on the other teams attempt to double team!!!! The would get the ball to the "open man" and he would score!!!!
I remember growing up in the 1970s the ABA ball was everywhere. It was the ball a lot of kids grew up with and it was in all the stores. We all knew Dr. J & George McGinnis too, but it was the ball that was the ABA's best PR tool.
Good...the scoring this year has been insane but I will say this..the nba was u watchable from 1995-2007...the offenses were a joke...defense was too important
Mark Mallone No kidding! Nobody could have had any damn clue what kind of ridiculous money that would mean. Note to self: Whenever possible, get the words "forever, or in perpetuity " into all future contracts.
Alquan The Braves failed because of the Sabres franchise not giving them prime dates and college basketball at the time was more popular back than and the big three wouldn't budge with their dates. History is important if the Sabres gave them Fridays and Saturdays they would have been a big hit
Many persons talked about the ABA and NBA exhibition games. All of them agreed, it was a war. "When those exhibition games began, the view in the NBA was, 'Now we'll show those guys.' But then you know what happened-the ABA teams won nearly as often as the NBA did .... Those NBA-ABA games were intense"
The ABA WON that series ever year except the first year - and it was fairly close that first year. This specifically included the games between the previous year ABA champion and the previous year NBA champion.
I remember watching those games as a kid. that was my intro to the pro basketball scene. Great memories and would choose ABA over NBA at that time hands down.
the nba was not well established at the time of the aba. The recent espn documentary about the celtics and lakers made that point very clear. Player salaries were not that different between the 2 leagues because the nba owners didn't have the revenue they have today. the nba could barely sell out games in most cities. if the nba had not evolved and grew then a new league could challenge it
That's why lockouts exist ...the nba average salary pre 1999 was less than 1 million....think about this...mj the biggest star in team sports ever was making between 2-4 million a year on his contract in his prime from 1990-1996....that's absurd ...
Tape delay 8-12 teams Boston dominating things like that hurt the NBA ...magic and bird saved the NBA....mj took it to new heights...Kobe Duncan international play and shaq and LeBron kept it going ...now its peaking cause its safer than football so moms and kids would rather play the better paying safer sport where careers last longer...its more exciting then boring old baseball and hockey is well its hockey. ...nba is taking over slowly...its behind only soccer globally as the most popular sport...and 2nd in America ....it is gonna one day surpass football...the nba and basketball in general will be played
Living in a WHA city that's what came to mind. Overpaying players,colored pucks lol teams changing cities mid season,rule changes like OT that the NHL would adopt years later. Will allow merger but it's really an expansion cause we want your 💰 💰 💰 .All this sounds vaguely familiar.
Since the NBA-ABA merger, the NBA is the ABA and has been that way until today. Everything NBA fans love about today's NBA is all ABA......fast breaks, dunking, three point shot, half time entertainment, the style, flashy moves, between the legs, behind the back ball handling, crazy passes, and the celebrity of players to include how they dress are all things the NBA took from the ABA and incorporated into the NBA when the merger happened because the NBA was a low scoring, stiff, conservative, boring league mostly with slow footed, white players who played fundamental basketball below the basket with a few African American players whose athletic abilities were greatly suppressed because of the standard type of league play. The Golden State Warriors today.....the ABA of yesterday. And one last thing.....Julius "Dr.J" Irving wasn't just the greatest ABA ever but the greatest basketball player of both leagues and in the world next to Wilt Chamberlain.
Yeah,I don't understand how the person in the video say the NBA won when the ABA's playing style and entertainment been adopted into the NBA for over 30 years.
The narrator in the video said the NBA won because the ABA folded and the NBA took in four ABA teams and took all those unique ABA league attributes I mentioned including drafting players out of high school and the Slam Dunk Contest and incorporated it into the NBA style of play and in addition to the 4 teams they absorbed, signed many former ABA players who played on every NBA team that also changed the game with a few winning individual honors and NBA championships. The NBA will never admit it but the ABA is the reason why the NBA became more competitive with the NBA and MLB and continues to grow as a league competitively to this very day.
Oh my goodness this is amazing! As a big fan of the channel and a huge fan of the NBA, I would love to see you talk more about the business side of the league. I don’t feel like it’s talked about enough, it’s super interesting, and you really know your stuff. Love your content!
Went to quite a few Pacer games as a kid and had my own red white and blue ball which I lost over the years. Thanks for uploading this video and the history of the ABA vs NBA It is pretty obvious the NBA is more like the ABA of old with more perimeter shooting.
For me, what's so interesting about the ABA in retrospect is that the NBA today has so many teams in cities that at one time had teams in the ABA. Examples: The NBA today has the Utah Jazz, Memphis Grizzlies, Dallas Mavericks, Houston Rockets, Minnesota Timberwolves, Miami Heat, New Orleans Pelicans, and Charlotte Hornets. The ABA at one time had the Utah Stars, Memphis Pros/Sounds/Tams, Dallas Chaparrals, Houston Mavericks, Minnesota Pipers, the Floridians, New Orleans Buccaneers, and Carolina Cougars.
FYI - The ball is now available on-line from Lana Sports for $79. Mine arrived two weeks ago. It's great to display or to play with indoors or outdoors.
I watched many Kentucky Colonels games and that pinwheel like sight of the basketball heading to the hoop, particularly on the 3-point shot, was an incomparable experience! Long live the ABA!
I'd always thought that the Red, White and Blue striped ball was a signature basketball for The Harlem Globetrotters I didn't realize that it originally started as a basketball for the ABA Just like I didn't realize that The Denver Nuggets, The San Antonio Spurs, Indianapolis Pacers and The New York Nets (now The New Jersey Nets) were originally ABA teams
I totally disagree with the lady logic that the NBA was better because of its team oriented style. The ABA was team oriented as well just at an evolutionary way. Plus, more importantly (And I really want to emphasize this fact) the ABA were not shy in obtaining black flashy players and not trying to turn them into robots. Let them play their style and swag.
The NBA of 1967 was roughly comparable to MLS today in size, scale and influence. It was the top league of what was at the time a secondary US sport. Baseball was still king and football was rapidly emerging. Even now smaller sports like boxing and golf were more universally and consistently popular than basketball. The Celtics were dominant winning titles and Wilt was a freak of nature but the NBA and basketball itself wasn't yet the global powerhouse it later became. There was still room for savvy, creative and enterprising businessmen to find opportunities to grow in the game. Fans and sports industry experts would've known the NBA was bound to prevail in the long run but those teams that survived could still get incorporated in the same way several USL and NASL teams have been incorporated into MLS (Minnesota United, Montreal Impact, Orlando City).
Aleksandar Perovic because no one played basketball profesionally outside US in the 70s, where football already the main sport of the planet even country like maldives has their own professional league. also MLS is still behind the south american and east asian leagues. heck they even behind the mexican one in terms of achievements.
The sports themselves like basketball or hockey are monopolies, however, they continually have to compete with other sports so in a way, it's not really.
Was wondering if someone else had commented on this. Same founders, same merger (expansion) model, same pay players more than you can afford model, same underage player model, same 4/6 of remaining teams accepted with two paid to fold (although not as lucratively), same bringing firewagon play to the stodgy old boys league...
Great video, informative and very accurate which is amazing since much of the ABA history and records are hard to find. I really enjoyed the 'briedf' interview with ARTIS GILMORE. He played here for Jacksonville University and makes his home here to this day. He was a gentle giant and a fan favorite wherever he played (Louisville, Boston and everywhere in between.
The ABA set the tone for today's NBA. They should use the ABA ball in the NBA. First of all, it's the colors of the U.S., and secondly, as the orator points out, it makes the ball in flight so much more interesting to watch.
DoNKeY wait what it's fake???? :// lmao why do people always have to say that whenever professional wrestling is brought up like you guys are belittling us, guess what man: your favorite movie is fake, your favorite TV shows are also fake! Crazy right???
Ben Soto nah man not that crazy at least movies people know are fake it's sad how "pro" wrestling tried so hard to make it so real when real fighting like UFC and boxing are frowned upon by so many because of violence. And my favorite movie is a 30/30 lmao. My favorite show is on animal channel too😂
@@ew5748 We will never know for sure if he was guilty - he got off the criminal charges on a plea bargain, part of which was paying off on the CIVIL lawsuit. That IS a pretty strong indication of guilt.
Mario_breezy: "Jumbo" Jim Eakins! I have all his trading cards. He was an all-star in 1973-74 along with Artis Gilmore and Julius Erving, to name just two future legends. He must have a trunk load of anecdotes.
I grrew up in Denver, watching the Denver Rockets, which became the Denver Nuggets in advance of the merger, because of the Houston Rockets. I loved the red, white, and blue ball, the three point line, and the world record afros of Dr. and Darnell Hillman. It was a fun league to watch, growing up. I do recall the Rockets playing the Milwaukee Bucks in a pre-season exhibition game 1971 or 1972.At halftime, in the corridor, Lew Alcindor (Kareem) walked by me...pretty sweet for a 14 year old kid.
It is kind of difficult to have multiple major professional sports leagues in one country. The closest thing is the National League and American league, which operate as two separate leagues (even having a different rule with the DH) under the umbrella of the MLB.
Xevious 1 actually the AL and NL officially finally merged into a single company over a decade ago iirc, despite the game rule difference. I'd have to seek out the details again to be sure.
It was a major injustice that the Kentucky Colonels were not part of the merger. It was arguably the most successful team in the history of the ABA. The Colonels won the most games and had the highest winning percentage of any franchise in the league's history and won the championship in 1975. The main reason why the team was not allowed to join the NBA was because Bill Wirtz of the Chicago Bulls opposed Kentucky joining because Chicago wanted to acquire Kentucky's Artis Gilmore in a dispersal draft (Chicago was the NBA team that drafted Gilmore). It was an inglorious end to a great team.
My favorite team is from the ABA. At the time, they were called the Dallas Chaparrals, better known as the San Antonio Spurs as of today. They are there only ABA team to win an NBA championship.
The ABA seemed a bit more clever...👌🏼 Thank goodness that they gave us the 3-Point shooting...💯✔ And that red, white and blue🔴was⚪super🔵funky, and I've always dug it...🤘🏼
I am old enough to remember the ABA and NBA. The ABA was a very good ,exciting, brand of Basketball. The NBA was more talented as a whole . It was a good time to be young having both leagues to watch. As you suggested, many of the rules 3 point shot, slam dunk competition came from the ABA. Even then I recognized that while the ABA had some very good players, the NBA was on the whole a much stronger League. Great Video.
The best teams of the NBA recent past, with 3- pt shooting and better passing, are ABA style. Particularly the salad days of the Golden State Warriors with the Splash Brothers and de-emphasis of the center position. Before the merger, NBA had better rosters, better managed teams, and more equity. But one cannot underestimated the impact of the ABA.
Drink Your Nail Polish aha what a joke of a league that was. Though they did revolutionize the way we NFL games today with there tricked out camera angles which was new at the time.
Kudos for this. I care nothing about basketball and never knew the ABA existed. That you can make this interesting to a non fan speaks volumes about the appeal of your analysis and presentation.
I can honestly see another league in sports in general happening again. The NFL is a mess when it comes to this. Only a handful of states have a team (california alone has 4 teams). It would be a huge advantage for a rivaling american football league to set up teams in states that love the sport such as Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Nebraska, Iowa, Oklahoma, Oregon, Nevada, ETC.
The problem is support. There just aren't all that many metro areas big enough to support a current pro team - and BLOODY FEW that can support one in more than one sport, much less 2 in the same sport (NYC, LA, long shot Chicago, and perhaps Toronto) in North America.
While we're on the topic of sports organization mergers/ splits, can you do a vid on the CART/IndyCar split? That company split single-handedly ruined open-wheel auto racing in America and it's controversy has always fascinated me.
The ABA also made the mistake of not patenting that red-white-blue basketball. Millions of those basketballs were sold and continued to be sold years after the ABA ceased operations but the league did not make any money from those sales. For a league that was strapped for cash, it could have helped its financial situation. And one more thing, those basketballs are no longer made so if anyone still has one, it may be a collector's item one day.
FYI - I saw one on sale for $4,999. However, you can purchase the next best thing on-line from Lana Sports for $79. Mine arrived two weeks ago. It's great to display or to play with indoors or outdoors.
9:28 The games were split equally between the rules of each league. And at least after the first year, when they started LOOSING, the NBA teams definitely gave "full effort" in an attempt to stop looking so bad.
Great video, and this gave me an idea, like when the players have latin heritage day and they wear the los bulls, etc. jerseys, they should do that with the aba, have a day where the teams wear old aba jerseys and play with the red white and blue ball, it would be a cool gimmick and it would be a throw back to when the aba was a thing, they could have the team that was closest to the aba team near it wear their jerseys for that night, like the hawks could wear spirit of st. Louis jerseys, or the grizzlies could wear colonels jerseys and so on, and maybe the teams that were nba teams at the time could wear what they did back then, so like a 70s throwback night in general i guess
Brilliant video. Love the quote about it being hard to attract an audience without talented players. Natural substance is always more valuable than packaging.
I loved ABA ball. It was run and gun. 150+ point games. Larry Brown. Doug Moe. George McGinnis. Doctor J. Artis Gilmore. George Gervin. Connie Hawkins. Mel Daniels. David Thompson.The 30 second shot clock. Busted backbosrds. 3 point shots. Great stuff!
TIL America used to had 2 different major basketball league back then such as ABA and NBA/BAA just like the football in EU that have 2 major league such as Europa League and UCL. Also it's interesting to know about the ABA and NBA merged and just became a one league during mid 70s
I look at it this way. If you figure, roughly speaking, that the NBA had the best 144 players in the world, the ABA had the next best 132, which means some very good ones. From the beginning, though, the ABA had Roger Brown, Connie Hawkins, Doug Moe, and Charlie Williams, three great players and one very good one, all of whom had been barred from the NBA. The NBA also had little to no interest in small guards, so the ABA got Larry Brown, Glen Combs, Louie Dampier, Larry Jones, and Freddie Lewis, among others. Eventually, the league also stole some excellent NBA players, not only Rick Barry, Zelmo Beatty, Joe Caldwell, and Billy Cunningham, but also some lesser but very good players who wanted more money and/or playing time (Wayne Hightower, Ray Scott). As the video mentions, the ABA also took undergraduates (Julius Erving, George Gervin, Spencer Haywood, Moses Malone). It also sometimes simply beat out the NBA for players both leagues drafted. The ABA wasn't simply flash over substance. After only a few seasons, it was only slightly inferior to the NBA, if even that. I give a slight edge to the NBA only because it had more of the big, bruising centers that dominated the game. In truth, in today's era of "small ball," I'm not even sure about that. One more thing. In the first all-star game after the merger, ten of twenty-four players had been in the ABA. Well, one more. Those ABA balls were great for learning how to put a spin on your shot.
Very good comments. FYI - The ball is now available on-line from Lana Sports for $79. Mine arrived two weeks ago. It's great to display or to play with indoors or outdoors.
Remember going to New Orleans Buccaneers’ games in the early 70’s. Great memories! They played in an old auditorium across from the French Quarter. I think we had Elgin Baylor here, but don’t quote me.
That's a great one. The USFL may have issues that have become too political to touch after recent events, but it should have more than a passing reference as a counterpoint to strategically "planned" mergers. That whole debacle probably deserves its own video, if it weren't for at least one of the personalities closely associated with it.
Mr. Company Man... Rarely have I seen a channel so new really catch on.. Congrats on your subscriber count and on a channel that's original and very well done!
AbovyantsiAper boy you need to get off yo ass and go outside then because I've seen people almost kill each other playin 3v3. That shit is real. You best keep yo mouth closed about shit you don't have enough info on to make an intelligent statement.
The definitive book to read to get a history of the ABA, primarily told by those who were there at the time, is "Loose Balls" by Terry Pluto. The original "Dream Team" for the 1992 Olympics had an ABA ball in their logo, I think it was nestled in the crook of the U, not sure, but it was on there somewhere.
NGL, that ABA's ball looks nice. Somehow I wish that ball would at least being allow to use in the international tour like FIBA or Olympic instead of the Molten one, if not being use in the NBA ! I still prefer ABA's ball over any Molten ball ANYDAY !
Knicks turned down Dr j such a Knicks move
Sean Newell didn't even know they were already doing it in the 70s. What a joke of a franchise after they won 2 titles.
Dr. J wasn’t going to lead them to a chip anyway
Jonathan you salty why? 💀
That one hurt
sean newell? what happend to sean oldell
the real winner here is the spirit of st louis owner
Kagisho Kgaile highly agree
Very true
A lot smarter than L Don Trumpard, OH YEAH!
@@kings9724 until L Don Trumpard came along there were no non-profit casinos
@@donaldpaluga-- Congrats! You win the award for Moron of the Year!
Bro when he pointed out the money ball was aba colours I was mind blown
Lmao me too I was like omg it all makes sense now
Wow.. Red, White & Blue in America... So, mindblowing...
Are y'all fr
Quick, someone give Vince McMahon a call. It's time for the XBA!
What does the x stand for
Sarah Ongethi he made a nfl league called xfl look it up
@John doue Quebec nah they bashed lavar for trying to do it
@Braeden Roby you can't even spell his name right and he's stupid how? Because he's loud and confident? He actually knows the sport but ya would go ahead and agree with suggestion for XBA tf is that shit
Lmao beat me to it
Great little video. As a Nets fan I saw dr. J when he was still a Virginia Squire playing against the Nets and I saw him do one of those dunks which started from the foul line at the Nassau coliseum. The crowd stood up and if you could say an entire arena full of people had their jaw drop that's what it was like. You just couldn't believe what you saw cuz nobody had ever done that before. I still have my old ABA red white and blue ball and I'm proud!
When the ABA started in 67, the NBA had became stagnant, and the ABA really was exciting to watch for its time....
"How would you be able to make these players switch leagues?!?!?"
-Money
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Shhh....dont tell him that...Your ruining his innocence ...let the kid dream...backdoor deals are plenty ......money is always the answer...the aba knew if they took Barry McGinnis Dr j mosses isel gervin Gilmore they would eventually cause the nba to lose talent and get angry and merge..
You know how much NBA players get paid? How on earth would a new start up league even dream of offering more than that?
Kyran Barnes offed lebron 1 billions dollars
First the ABA needs to make money
If the ABA was still a thing, I would play for them instead of the NBA. I like the ball.
Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez Haha I really wanna buy that ball now
Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez I think the Harlem globe trotters use that ball
Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez Its still a thing. its a semipro league now with a massive number of teams and they do use the striped red and blue ball.
haha I swatted at your fly.
Really? Which NBA team do you play for?
In Europe we have the Euroleague and the basketball Champions League, which is nice.
Euroleague is ass though only east europe is good
@@shaunibabe1 nope you're totally wrong dude
@@shaunibabe1 yes youre wrong cause there is zalgris cska moscow or zenit
Europe have great talent in almost every country, think about Spain, Greece, Italy, France, Serbia, Germany, Russia etc. And I know Turkey isn't s European country but even them produce good players
@@kushberry6679 Turkey is part of Europe in sports
“I like the colours of the basketball”
This was back when the players didn’t care about the money, they just wanted to do what they loved.
He’s joking idiot
Bruh hes joking
This man his a minuscule brain
Gilmore had to take a pay cut when he graduated from Jax.
You can love basketball as much as you want but you got to pay the rent somehow
Getting Lebron to play somewhere else can't be that hard...
Miami Sports Network omg 😂😂😂😂
CLE for life baby!!!!!!
I think he is going to take his talents to L.A. next season.
MadGnomeStudios Lml wym Cleveland for life didn’t he play for the heat 😂😂
MadGnomeStudios hehe
Honestly, I can't but notice the irony of the NBA branding themselves as the league of teamwork, fundamentals and professionalism when the Spurs, a former ABA team no less, has since become the modern poster child for all of that.
and the NBA has adopted the ABA style of play
What do you mean about the spurs
Covered Wars because the spurs are really the only team that just focuses on teamwork
Popovich
Check out the 1969 New York Knicks!!! That is team play. They played with a philosophy called "The Open Man"!!! and they employed it throughout the entire game not just from time to time. Because of this teams were not able to double team any Knick player at any time. Because if they did, they would be playing right into the Knicks hands and the Knicks would immediately capitalize on the other teams attempt to double team!!!! The would get the ball to the "open man" and he would score!!!!
I want the Flint tropics back
geth117 MEGA BOWL!
geth117 Jackie Moon Coffee Black better than Curry and Thompson
Monix > Phil Jackson
Let's get tropical!!!
Holy shit yes
You forgot to mention the ABA's use of the 30 second shot clock.
Only until 1975-76.
O.o
NBA had a shot clock before the ABA was founded.
The nba used that aswell
NBA had 24 second shot clock, ABA had 30 seconds shot clock like NCCA did.
I remember growing up in the 1970s the ABA ball was everywhere. It was the ball a lot of kids grew up with and it was in all the stores. We all knew Dr. J & George McGinnis too, but it was the ball that was the ABA's best PR tool.
NBA has turned into the ABA lol
Ben Stark o
Fake
Toti Rasay ?
Good...the scoring this year has been insane but I will say this..the nba was u watchable from 1995-2007...the offenses were a joke...defense was too important
Asmosis Jones that was the most fun time to watch basketball
Spirit St. Louis owner got a good deal.
Mark Mallone HA, you think!?
The Silna Brothers make bank for doing nothing
Mark Mallone No kidding! Nobody could have had any damn clue what kind of ridiculous money that would mean. Note to self: Whenever possible, get the words "forever, or in perpetuity " into all future contracts.
He got it good but they screwed future residents of saint Louis we have to go to chicago or indiana to watch basketball
Alquan The Braves failed because of the Sabres franchise not giving them prime dates and college basketball at the time was more popular back than and the big three wouldn't budge with their dates. History is important if the Sabres gave them Fridays and Saturdays they would have been a big hit
They should allow the remaining ABA teams to play a few games with the colored ball for ABA nights
Quad5age804883: Good idea! An exhibition game, perhaps.
brachio1000 I mean it shouldn't be that hard
Quad5age804883 I play for the ABA now and we are emerging again. My team was purchased last year.
Deon whats your team and name?
Deon: The American Bar Association.
Many persons talked about the ABA and NBA exhibition games.
All of them agreed, it was a war.
"When those exhibition games began, the view in the NBA was, 'Now we'll show those guys.' But then you know what happened-the ABA teams won nearly as often as the NBA did .... Those NBA-ABA games were intense"
people*
@@djninja2425 persons is also correct in some instances.
@@feyo3781 but not in this instance
@@peninsulap410 they are both correct, as person is just older english and not used as much anymore. The word is interchangeable.
The ABA WON that series ever year except the first year - and it was fairly close that first year.
This specifically included the games between the previous year ABA champion and the previous year NBA champion.
I remember watching those games as a kid. that was my intro to the pro basketball scene. Great memories and would choose ABA over NBA at that time hands down.
the nba was not well established at the time of the aba. The recent espn documentary about the celtics and lakers made that point very clear. Player salaries were not that different between the 2 leagues because the nba owners didn't have the revenue they have today. the nba could barely sell out games in most cities. if the nba had not evolved and grew then a new league could challenge it
Wrong.
That's why lockouts exist ...the nba average salary pre 1999 was less than 1 million....think about this...mj the biggest star in team sports ever was making between 2-4 million a year on his contract in his prime from 1990-1996....that's absurd ...
Tape delay 8-12 teams Boston dominating things like that hurt the NBA ...magic and bird saved the NBA....mj took it to new heights...Kobe Duncan international play and shaq and LeBron kept it going ...now its peaking cause its safer than football so moms and kids would rather play the better paying safer sport where careers last longer...its more exciting then boring old baseball and hockey is well its hockey. ...nba is taking over slowly...its behind only soccer globally as the most popular sport...and 2nd in America ....it is gonna one day surpass football...the nba and basketball in general will be played
NHL vs WHA
I second
Living in a WHA city that's what came to mind. Overpaying players,colored pucks lol teams changing cities mid season,rule changes like OT that the NHL would adopt years later. Will allow merger but it's really an expansion cause we want your 💰 💰 💰 .All this sounds vaguely familiar.
The what
No Top Kek, the wha
Xhl
Since the NBA-ABA merger, the NBA is the ABA and has been that way until today.
Everything NBA fans love about today's NBA is all ABA......fast breaks, dunking, three point shot, half time entertainment, the style, flashy moves, between the legs, behind the back ball handling, crazy passes, and the celebrity of players to include how they dress are all things the NBA took from the ABA and incorporated into the NBA when the merger happened because the NBA was a low scoring, stiff, conservative, boring league mostly with slow footed, white players who played fundamental basketball below the basket with a few African American players whose athletic abilities were greatly suppressed because of the standard type of league play.
The Golden State Warriors today.....the ABA of yesterday.
And one last thing.....Julius "Dr.J" Irving wasn't just the greatest ABA ever but the greatest basketball player of both leagues and in the world next to Wilt Chamberlain.
Yeah,I don't understand how the person in the video say the NBA won when the ABA's playing style and entertainment been adopted into the NBA for over 30 years.
This. Although I think the ABA and the AFL ( American football league ) should've stayed separate.
I don't understand what you're disagreeing with Ansatsusha.
The narrator in the video said the NBA won because the ABA folded and the NBA took in four ABA teams and took all those unique ABA league attributes I mentioned including drafting players out of high school and the Slam Dunk Contest and incorporated it into the NBA style of play and in addition to the 4 teams they absorbed, signed many former ABA players who played on every NBA team that also changed the game with a few winning individual honors and NBA championships.
The NBA will never admit it but the ABA is the reason why the NBA became more competitive with the NBA and MLB and continues to grow as a league competitively to this very day.
MROOOZZZZZ I can name 5 players off the top of my head better than those 2.
Oh my goodness this is amazing! As a big fan of the channel and a huge fan of the NBA, I would love to see you talk more about the business side of the league. I don’t feel like it’s talked about enough, it’s super interesting, and you really know your stuff. Love your content!
9:05 Thats worse than what germany got after ww1.
I REMEMBER THE ABA!!! We had our own ABA team called The Carolina Cougars that would eventually become The Spirit of St. Louis.
There is an ABA today, its more of a 40 team semi pro league. I refer to the first one as "The Original ABA".
The hawks need to return to st Louis..i might respect them then..their fans don't deserve a team..especially when they are had no one shows up..
The family that owned the spirits still make money off nba tv rights.
ABA is basically the G-League
cougars the best logo in aba
Went to quite a few Pacer games as a kid and had my own red white and blue ball which I lost over the years. Thanks for uploading this video and the history of the ABA vs NBA It is pretty obvious the NBA is more like the ABA of old with more perimeter shooting.
Only my Knicks would turn down Julius Erving! Damn what could have been. McAdoo and Dr. J on same team.
Could've win a Championship.
And we are still cursed to this day.
This don't make s sense wasn't I the new Jersey nets
LastWarrior u sound like Stephen A😂
@@garonewatakame9379 Na bro I'd have a heart attack!
For me, what's so interesting about the ABA in retrospect is that the NBA today has so many teams in cities that at one time had teams in the ABA. Examples: The NBA today has the Utah Jazz, Memphis Grizzlies, Dallas Mavericks, Houston Rockets, Minnesota Timberwolves, Miami Heat, New Orleans Pelicans, and Charlotte Hornets. The ABA at one time had the Utah Stars, Memphis Pros/Sounds/Tams, Dallas Chaparrals, Houston Mavericks, Minnesota Pipers, the Floridians, New Orleans Buccaneers, and Carolina Cougars.
The ABA ball is fantastic. I grew up always playing with one when possible.
FYI - The ball is now available on-line from Lana Sports for $79. Mine arrived two weeks ago. It's great to display or to play with indoors or outdoors.
NFL vs. AFL. Those are the two to compare.
someguy23475 No...
same shit today
I meant the American Football League of the 1960s, which merged with the NFL.
someguy23475 do you mean the afl in australia or america?
someguy23475 CFL
ABA? Aren't they that disco band from Swden?
Joseph Stalin hail ussr
Enough of your jokes, Stalin. Go back to your wasteland. xD
no, it's a style of source citation.
Dolan Trimp Do you mean APA?
That's the American Bar Association, you gulag loving tyrant!
I watched many Kentucky Colonels games and that pinwheel like sight of the basketball heading to the hoop, particularly on the 3-point shot, was an incomparable experience! Long live the ABA!
I'd always thought that the Red, White and Blue striped ball was a signature basketball for The Harlem Globetrotters
I didn't realize that it originally started as a basketball for the ABA
Just like I didn't realize that The Denver Nuggets, The San Antonio Spurs, Indianapolis Pacers and The New York Nets (now The New Jersey Nets) were originally ABA teams
Oh, yeah. And quite a few of their stars went on to become NBA Hall of Famers.
I totally disagree with the lady logic that the NBA was better because of its team oriented style. The ABA was team oriented as well just at an evolutionary way. Plus, more importantly (And I really want to emphasize this fact) the ABA were not shy in obtaining black flashy players and not trying to turn them into robots. Let them play their style and swag.
This
Jesus Christ is love
The NBA of 1967 was roughly comparable to MLS today in size, scale and influence. It was the top league of what was at the time a secondary US sport. Baseball was still king and football was rapidly emerging. Even now smaller sports like boxing and golf were more universally and consistently popular than basketball. The Celtics were dominant winning titles and Wilt was a freak of nature but the NBA and basketball itself wasn't yet the global powerhouse it later became. There was still room for savvy, creative and enterprising businessmen to find opportunities to grow in the game. Fans and sports industry experts would've known the NBA was bound to prevail in the long run but those teams that survived could still get incorporated in the same way several USL and NASL teams have been incorporated into MLS (Minnesota United, Montreal Impact, Orlando City).
The difference being that the NBA was probably the best league in the world even back then. MLS is inferior to European leagues.
Aleksandar Perovic because no one played basketball profesionally outside US in the 70s, where football already the main sport of the planet even country like maldives has their own professional league. also MLS is still behind the south american and east asian leagues. heck they even behind the mexican one in terms of achievements.
@Halfi Desfarizly I disagree. Yugoslavia, Philippines, USSR, Brazil, Argentina and China already play basketball, professionaly, outside of the US.
Sad to say that nearly everything is a monopoly.
Dewaynesite1 that's capitalism bro
That's just flat out incorrect lol
The sports themselves like basketball or hockey are monopolies, however, they continually have to compete with other sports so in a way, it's not really.
profile pic checks out
MoonlightWhispersASMR Why does his profile pic checks out?
Would the WHA for Hockey be a future subject? It had a similar relationship with the NHL as did the ABA with the NBA.
Was wondering if someone else had commented on this.
Same founders, same merger (expansion) model, same pay players more than you can afford model, same underage player model, same 4/6 of remaining teams accepted with two paid to fold (although not as lucratively), same bringing firewagon play to the stodgy old boys league...
My man!! Thanks for this vid and covering the great sport of basketball, always fun to watch your channel.
Great video, informative and very accurate which is amazing since much of the ABA history and records are hard to find. I really enjoyed the 'briedf' interview with ARTIS GILMORE. He played here for Jacksonville University and makes his home here to this day. He was a gentle giant and a fan favorite wherever he played (Louisville, Boston and everywhere in between.
The is a new basketball league out called Big3. Ice Cube made the league primarily consists of retired NBA players.
the34beast64 well it doesn't go in the same category just because 3v3 vs 5v5 with a bench
the34beast64 ii
It's a good concept. I'm hoping it succeeds.
How about a street basketball league?
Now I've heard of a mixed gendered basketball league.
The ABA set the tone for today's NBA. They should use the ABA ball in the NBA. First of all, it's the colors of the U.S., and secondly, as the orator points out, it makes the ball in flight so much more interesting to watch.
Do you like wrestling? I would love to see about the video about the decline and collapse of WCW!
bonecanoe86 yes please!!
bonecanoe86 actual wrestling? Or this wwe shit?
bonecanoe86 WWE is fake. How about some real wrestling like Olympic or NCAA.
DoNKeY wait what it's fake???? :// lmao why do people always have to say that whenever professional wrestling is brought up like you guys are belittling us, guess what man: your favorite movie is fake, your favorite TV shows are also fake! Crazy right???
Ben Soto nah man not that crazy at least movies people know are fake it's sad how "pro" wrestling tried so hard to make it so real when real fighting like UFC and boxing are frowned upon by so many because of violence. And my favorite movie is a 30/30 lmao. My favorite show is on animal channel too😂
Great Job! I was a huge ABA fan and you nailed it.
I've never been a fan of basketball, or cared much, but this year started off sad..
R.i.p Kobe Bryant, his daughter, and the 7 others who died
Zachary Middleton and Australia fire and Coronavirus
Kobe wouldnt and his daughter wouldnt have died if he was serving a life sentence for the rape he commited
@@Shadowpaw124 he didnt
Shadowpaw124 he wasn’t even guilty
@@ew5748 We will never know for sure if he was guilty - he got off the criminal charges on a plea bargain, part of which was paying off on the CIVIL lawsuit.
That IS a pretty strong indication of guilt.
You forgot Jackie Moon and the Flint Tropics!
He invented the alley oop
I now this comment is old but I think they were the squirrels
The Flint Leadbellies
(imsosorry)
my highschool teacher played In the ABA.
Wow that's really cool Mario. I love when the viewers have personal connections to the topics in my videos.
Mario_breezy: Who?
brachio1000 Jim Eakins
Mario_breezy: "Jumbo" Jim Eakins! I have all his trading cards. He was an all-star in 1973-74 along with Artis Gilmore and Julius Erving, to name just two future legends. He must have a trunk load of anecdotes.
mario_breezy What does he teach?
I wish I was the owner of the Spirits of St. Louis, lol, wow...
I grrew up in Denver, watching the Denver Rockets, which became the Denver Nuggets in advance of the merger, because of the Houston Rockets. I loved the red, white, and blue ball, the three point line, and the world record afros of Dr. and Darnell Hillman. It was a fun league to watch, growing up. I do recall the Rockets playing the Milwaukee Bucks in a pre-season exhibition game 1971 or 1972.At halftime, in the corridor, Lew Alcindor (Kareem) walked by me...pretty sweet for a 14 year old kid.
So the spirit of st louis owner still gets a check ? Shout out that dude for real for real.
One of the 2 do - the other one died a few years back.
Great informative video! Love your content!
Appreciate it brandonprows.
WWE vs WCW
UBot wwe cant compete with my woman crush Wednesday
EET FUK ubot is talking about World Championship Wrestling
LeSavage James your right TNA is Better but wwe has a lot of good wrestlers
Killjoy Matt tna is better ? lol
Billionare Ted Turner got tired of the Monday Night Wars.
each sport seems to have a large monopoly that controls it on the professional level. even using gimmicks to make it a non-profit, like NFL.
It is kind of difficult to have multiple major professional sports leagues in one country. The closest thing is the National League and American league, which operate as two separate leagues (even having a different rule with the DH) under the umbrella of the MLB.
Xevious 1 actually the AL and NL officially finally merged into a single company over a decade ago iirc, despite the game rule difference. I'd have to seek out the details again to be sure.
Xevious 1 MiLB and USHL have separate leagues under their umbrella, though, some would say that they are just Semi-Pro.
MiLB is literally a farm system for MLB, and USHL is an amateur league allowing it's players (who are high school aged) to still play for the NCAA.
It is bullshit the NFL is tax free. Fuckers.
It was a major injustice that the Kentucky Colonels were not part of the merger. It was arguably the most successful team in the history of the ABA. The Colonels won the most games and had the highest winning percentage of any franchise in the league's history and won the championship in 1975. The main reason why the team was not allowed to join the NBA was because Bill Wirtz of the Chicago Bulls opposed Kentucky joining because Chicago wanted to acquire Kentucky's Artis Gilmore in a dispersal draft (Chicago was the NBA team that drafted Gilmore). It was an inglorious end to a great team.
My favorite team is from the ABA. At the time, they were called the Dallas Chaparrals, better known as the San Antonio Spurs as of today. They are there only ABA team to win an NBA championship.
One of my favorite fun facts EVER. And why yes, I am a Spurs fan from way back.
Cool fact. Another awesome fact. My all time greatest player ever is the only player to win an ABA championship and NBA championship. Dr. J
#bringbacktheaba
Get it trending Issaic.
nba holds all the rights to it. not happening
It’s already back.
Google it.
For a while.
When Dr. J signed with ABA, sports pages covered it actively. His rep immediately brought attention to ABA, at least the games he played in.
The ABA seemed a bit more clever...👌🏼 Thank goodness that they gave us the 3-Point shooting...💯✔ And that red, white and blue🔴was⚪super🔵funky, and I've always dug it...🤘🏼
I am old enough to remember the ABA and NBA. The ABA was a very good ,exciting, brand of Basketball. The NBA was more talented as a whole . It was a good time to be young having both leagues to watch. As you suggested, many of the rules 3 point shot, slam dunk competition came from the ABA. Even then I recognized that while the ABA had some very good players, the NBA was on the whole a much stronger League. Great Video.
The best teams of the NBA recent past, with 3- pt shooting and better passing, are ABA style. Particularly the salad days of the Golden State Warriors with the Splash Brothers and de-emphasis of the center position. Before the merger, NBA had better rosters, better managed teams, and more equity. But one cannot underestimated the impact of the ABA.
can you do the xfl?
Drink Your Nail Polish aha what a joke of a league that was. Though they did revolutionize the way we NFL games today with there tricked out camera angles which was new at the time.
Drink Your Nail Polish
ESPN did a 30 for 30 on that.
SymbioteNx379 and it was a damn good documentary.
Drink Your Nail Polish just watch the 30 for 30
Drink Your Nail Polish yes
Damn man idk who you are but your vids are great and it looks like you put a lot of effort into them.
I certainly do Christos and I'm glad it shows.
Don't forget the CBA. They were VERY LOW-KEY and took over the small-town flair of the ABA.
Company Man, this is the video that got me whatching all your vids
Kudos for this. I care nothing about basketball and never knew the ABA existed. That you can make this interesting to a non fan speaks volumes about the appeal of your analysis and presentation.
I can honestly see another league in sports in general happening again. The NFL is a mess when it comes to this. Only a handful of states have a team (california alone has 4 teams). It would be a huge advantage for a rivaling american football league to set up teams in states that love the sport such as Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Nebraska, Iowa, Oklahoma, Oregon, Nevada, ETC.
Vince McMahon actually tried to compete with NFL, using WWE's peak to promote his new football league but it went nowhere.
Technically there's a new football league but its European rugby its called MLR check it out
Well, Nevada has the Raiders now...
The problem is support.
There just aren't all that many metro areas big enough to support a current pro team - and BLOODY FEW that can support one in more than one sport, much less 2 in the same sport (NYC, LA, long shot Chicago, and perhaps Toronto) in North America.
While we're on the topic of sports organization mergers/ splits, can you do a vid on the CART/IndyCar split? That company split single-handedly ruined open-wheel auto racing in America and it's controversy has always fascinated me.
I did not know about ABA
Mysterious Jonathan Acosta that's where the Pacers and the Chaparrals( Spurs) came from
Quad5age804883 also Nets and Nuggets
Quad5age804883 They're one of the best teams in basketball
tomatokiller7x no.. barely any people know about the ABA whether you are young or not dumbass
aaron estrera no dude any legit basketball fall knows about the ABA, it's common knowledge
The ABA also made the mistake of not patenting that red-white-blue basketball. Millions of those basketballs were sold and continued to be sold years after the ABA ceased operations but the league did not make any money from those sales. For a league that was strapped for cash, it could have helped its financial situation. And one more thing, those basketballs are no longer made so if anyone still has one, it may be a collector's item one day.
FYI - I saw one on sale for $4,999. However, you can purchase the next best thing on-line from Lana Sports for $79. Mine arrived two weeks ago. It's great to display or to play with indoors or outdoors.
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The games were split equally between the rules of each league.
And at least after the first year, when they started LOOSING, the NBA teams definitely gave "full effort" in an attempt to stop looking so bad.
what about the Fint Tropics? JACKIE MOON!
*Flint
ABA? I love their music!
MahaerHD - Memes and UA-cam Poops! r/wooosh
IDK my favorite team from that league was the Flint tropics........lets get tropical
Downtown Funkystuff Malone 😂
Great video, and this gave me an idea, like when the players have latin heritage day and they wear the los bulls, etc. jerseys, they should do that with the aba, have a day where the teams wear old aba jerseys and play with the red white and blue ball, it would be a cool gimmick and it would be a throw back to when the aba was a thing, they could have the team that was closest to the aba team near it wear their jerseys for that night, like the hawks could wear spirit of st. Louis jerseys, or the grizzlies could wear colonels jerseys and so on, and maybe the teams that were nba teams at the time could wear what they did back then, so like a 70s throwback night in general i guess
Brilliant video. Love the quote about it being hard to attract an audience without talented players. Natural substance is always more valuable than packaging.
how about ABBA vs NBA
Peatur Parkir sanic vs. spoderman
Peatur Parkir lol
Peatur Parkir the Big 3...by Ice cube.. with AI, White Mamba and ALot more
Where did their hair go?
Scrotum guns
This is very interesting. I watch NBA games... and never heard about the ABA
Cubbie Bear Ugh, me too. It's not like people have to or are supposed to know about the ABA existing. Kind of crazy to find out about them though.
ABA made late 60s - early 70s basketball being more interesting imo
“Why would that watch it instead of James Harden?”
Maybe they’re looking for someone who will play defense?
ROASTED
I remember the last year of the ABA. The Flint Michigan Mega Bowl was something else. There will never be another Jackie Moon.
I loved ABA ball. It was run and gun. 150+ point games. Larry Brown. Doug Moe. George McGinnis. Doctor J. Artis Gilmore. George Gervin. Connie Hawkins. Mel Daniels. David Thompson.The 30 second shot clock. Busted backbosrds. 3 point shots. Great stuff!
TIL America used to had 2 different major basketball league back then such as ABA and NBA/BAA just like the football in EU that have 2 major league such as Europa League and UCL. Also it's interesting to know about the ABA and NBA merged and just became a one league during mid 70s
Yea but the UEFA Europa League is more of a 2nd Tier continental league compared to the Champions League
They didn’t compete with each other like NBA/ABA
Similar to how the WHL
And NHL
Worked...
loved the old ABA really exciting
LET"S GET TROPICAL!!
I look at it this way. If you figure, roughly speaking, that the NBA had the best 144 players in the world, the ABA had the next best 132, which means some very good ones.
From the beginning, though, the ABA had Roger Brown, Connie Hawkins, Doug Moe, and Charlie Williams, three great players and one very good one, all of whom had been barred from the NBA. The NBA also had little to no interest in small guards, so the ABA got Larry Brown, Glen Combs, Louie Dampier, Larry Jones, and Freddie Lewis, among others. Eventually, the league also stole some excellent NBA players, not only Rick Barry, Zelmo Beatty, Joe Caldwell, and Billy Cunningham, but also some lesser but very good players who wanted more money and/or playing time (Wayne Hightower, Ray Scott). As the video mentions, the ABA also took undergraduates (Julius Erving, George Gervin, Spencer Haywood, Moses Malone). It also sometimes simply beat out the NBA for players both leagues drafted.
The ABA wasn't simply flash over substance. After only a few seasons, it was only slightly inferior to the NBA, if even that. I give a slight edge to the NBA only because it had more of the big, bruising centers that dominated the game. In truth, in today's era of "small ball," I'm not even sure about that.
One more thing. In the first all-star game after the merger, ten of twenty-four players had been in the ABA.
Well, one more. Those ABA balls were great for learning how to put a spin on your shot.
Very good comments. FYI - The ball is now available on-line from Lana Sports for $79. Mine arrived two weeks ago. It's great to display or to play with indoors or outdoors.
not to mention the utah stars is still the only team to ever play in utah and win the championship
thank u for making this super informitive. seen a comment the nba became the aba w nba substance so true. awsome story
Remember going to New Orleans Buccaneers’ games in the early 70’s. Great memories! They played in an old auditorium across from the French Quarter. I think we had Elgin Baylor here, but don’t quote me.
can you make NFL vs AFL
That's a great one.
The USFL may have issues that have become too political to touch after recent events, but it should have more than a passing reference as a counterpoint to strategically "planned" mergers. That whole debacle probably deserves its own video, if it weren't for at least one of the personalities closely associated with it.
But they are different sports in lots of different ways
@@nedlandry856 Exactly. NFL is American while the AFL is in Australia and a completely different kind of football.
James Rodriguez NFL vs NRL
i assume you mean AAF not AFL
Bring back the Colonels!
The guy who wanted 1/7 of three teams revenue forever is a genius.
Mr. Company Man... Rarely have I seen a channel so new really catch on.. Congrats on your subscriber count and on a channel that's original and very well done!
Appreciate it CJ.
The big 3 is a new basketball league, and people are watching it.
It's 3X3 category of basketball league though
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You, my friend. You are talking about this EuroLeague.
What about the flint tropics
The Big3 is perfect example of a new nba league
It's TNewman1234 true people go and see it and does well on tv
It's TNewman1234 yes but no it's practically a whole new sport
It would be if they start getting young players
It's 3v3... that's not basketball
AbovyantsiAper boy you need to get off yo ass and go outside then because I've seen people almost kill each other playin 3v3. That shit is real. You best keep yo mouth closed about shit you don't have enough info on to make an intelligent statement.
The definitive book to read to get a history of the ABA, primarily told by those who were there at the time, is "Loose Balls" by Terry Pluto.
The original "Dream Team" for the 1992 Olympics had an ABA ball in their logo, I think it was nestled in the crook of the U, not sure, but it was on there somewhere.
Thank you for making this video about the ABA.
NGL, that ABA's ball looks nice. Somehow I wish that ball would at least being allow to use in the international tour like FIBA or Olympic instead of the Molten one, if not being use in the NBA ! I still prefer ABA's ball over any Molten ball ANYDAY !
No mention of the Flint Tropics!?! The ABA's most entertaining team!?!
You know they weren’t a real team right?