Is a $1000 Fox 34 GRIP2 really worth it? High Low Ep 3
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Is a $1100 Fox 34 GRIP2 fork really that much better?
Credit to Donut Media & Pinkbike for the inspiration behind this mega series.
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The forks pinkbike should have actually used! Thanks for the quality content!
@Anton Chigurh I know! They could have excecuted it so much better with their production budget! They should've just serviced the original fork!
Ikr pink bike puts the most random and terrible value stuff on thier high low
@Anton Chigurh Seemed like a missed opportunity to sell some of the mid-tier or lower end branded stuff, but I guess they're too afraid of people realizing they don't need the absolute top of the line gear.
Nope. The ali express fork was trashier
Agreed, pink bike make a fool of budget bikers. Thank you Evan for being legit!! 🙏🙏
"It has a compression knob that I'll never touch." This is the absolute truth for the vast majority of us average mountain bikers.
Great video. Loving this series!
Learn to work the knob
When a suspension part of a bicycle costs 2x as much as a motorcycle, car, truck.
Yeah people we're getting scammed.
I use the lockout a lot on my hardtail 🤷
Well that's the truth. I have remote lockout on my Reba and I use it a lot
It doesn't matter you won't touch it. What's matter is that the lower end fork has the unavailable settings configured for all riders of all weight and skills. If you got more options to set its always better even if you don't touch them ever again. The fork would be setup for your weight and not universal as the one with almost no settings. If you don't care then you would probably not find any difference buying even a cheaper fork than Z2. So why overpay for the Z2? :-) And by the way self set up of the complicated fork is not a big deal. The maufcaturer suggested options are great. A lower-end fork will ever get close to the ride quality of an adjusted fork.
Top tier suspension is definately amazing but considering the cost different of $700 and how good a Z2 actually is as a trail fork...I could get a Z2 plus a great rear shock for what that Fox costs...and a better headset
Great series! It’s too bad the D5 doesn’t have Boost spacing. “Chad” is going to have issues with that 141mm rear axle.
I have adapters coming for a 148 hub to work on the 141 QR, supposedly! 🤞
@@EvansMTBSaga thats never gonna work loool
@@EvansMTBSaga My GT Pantera has Boost 141 rear spacing. I used a spacer kit for the axle and rotor, but it was such a pain in the ass that I ended up just buying a koozer boost 141 hub and rebuilding the wheel. No spacers needed and I have endcaps to fit my 12mm x 142 xc hardtail.
@@EvansMTBSaga I wish Trek and others would just say to the mega factory that contacts for them to stop using 141 boost. Its a friggin nightmare. Glad I finally have 148mm as a rear axle now..
A bike set up to go faster is going to feel worse every time. Maybe that Bomber is set up to go faster compared to your settings on the 34. Using the same pressure and rebound settings is utterly pointless if the dampers are different. Each setting affects the other settings in some way. This is why I think a high end damper with 4-5 different adjustments is a double edged sword, an average joe will have a hard time achieving a good setup. The Marzocchis are very limited but in both directions. You can't make them perfect but you can't fck them up completely either by randomly turning some knobs. I think paying the premium for high end dampers only makes sense if you already found the limit of a simpler damper and understand how to set it up for an improved ride.
It's so funny that the Fox, with all the adjustments, just happened to be in a near perfect setting. I half-@ssed tuned it. Like set everything in the middle and just sent it. So ironic 😭
Since when did bicycle parts become as expensive or more expensive than cars??????
Top end parts have always been expensive, I remember paying £599 for Judy SL’s back in 1992. With inflation that’s about 1k today.
There’s no cars at this price anymore unless they are super used and old
Yeah $1100 dollar cars a real common, at the scrap yard and pick a part lol
This series is awesome. But I would spend a bit more time trying to dial in the z2. having too few volume spacers and too much air pressure will make it harsh.
How many spacers would you recommend?
@@halnogaies1256 it depends on your weight and riding style. Try one extra then two
I got a polygon d5 for my birthday, my dad bought a d7 for himself and we try to go mountain biking every time we can but we are usually busy. I was thinking about upgrading my polygon sense he has a rock shox on his. I found a fox 36 for a couple hundred. Obviously I didn’t want to research if it fit so I just watched your video
As a 51yr old biker who has owned and tried almost any major fork brand and fork travel, I can tell you it's not worth it for the most of us. Now I ride a Z2 140mm.
This is already better than Pinkbikes version.. kudos to you Evan! 🙌🏽 your videos NEVER disappoint 💯
I love the Evan v Chad run.
Thanks for the content man. It's theoretically simple to do the chad segments but like... hassle. So. I salute you for the added effort.
Oh yeah it definitely adds a whole level to change shirts and keep track of everything lol
@@EvansMTBSaga Still, top notch presentation. Even as someone with a big box bike budget rather than bike store bike budget? These kind of things just plain interest me.
@@singletona082 a used specialized or similar is better than a new Walmart bike. And then later on you might be able to save up for the wheel upgrade or something
@@nk-dw2hm The walmart bike is serving it's purpose. for like.. $250 I've been able to find out if I want to bike again, plus a few cheap upgrades to said bike so I can tear the thing up and fix it.
And now? I have a loaner bike while also being able to save up for something nicer.
@@singletona082 no problem going with what works for you. On the bright side, when you move away from that Walmart tank hill climbs are going to feel amazing 😉
I have the z2, and love it. It is on my Fuse 27.5. There is no denying though that factory is a much higher level. I think the Z1 is comparable to the Factory.
The z1 is more of an enduro fork. It’s got 36mm stantions, so it’s comparable to the fox 36, at $400 cheaper. The z2 is supposedly more stiff(less play in the fit between the stanctions and lowers) than the fox 34 due to different bushings or something, so that’s a positive about it.
Thanks for making this. It was entertaining and useful at the same time. I like how you compared it to actual GOOD budget forks and not some eBay dumpster trash. Looking forward for more videos !
For general riding trails Mazzocchi Bomber Z2 good fork Nice and plush I had one. No complaints at all
I mean....one could consider a Cane Creek 10 Series or FSA No.57 a "budget" headset...
As far as the forks, the Marz is basically a Fox Rhythm (from what I've been told) which is actually a pretty decent fork setup correctly. True it's no Fox Factory 34 or RS Pike....but still a pretty dang good fork. Personally, I own a DVO Diamond which has that LSC/HSC and OTT and all the other ABCs, but I still prefer one with a basic on/off switch....open/lockout to run a remote lockout.
I absolutely love the gold look of the fox fork. When i think front suspension this is the image that comes to mind.
As a roadie who's dipped into the mtn/gravel/bike packing world, there's so many more variables that it can be overwhelming. I'm glad my fork is as basic as me, just remembering to unlock the fork at the top of a hill is a lot for me
Haha why is it so hard to remember to unlock the compression at the top of the hill! I had to completely stop messing with compression because I'd ALWAYS forget 😭😭
You hit it on the head there are endless variables in mountain biking vs. Road biking. Honestly most road bike riders are on autopilot and this is why you see a lot of crashes or mishaps. When you ride a mountain bike on Trails you have to be focused 100% on the time or you wind up on your arse. With regard to suspension settings it could be a bit confusing the best thing to do is to study up on how suspension dampers work in relation to physics in relation to body weight body position riding style and where you ride. It's a very heady subject but once you figure out some basic things you can take advantage of the componentry. I recommend Vorsprung. Stay away from gmbn, while these guys are well-intentioned they are a bunch of Muppets. And usually contradict themselves don't really know what they're talking about very much. Also Mojo suspension. Those guys are like professors, and then there's the suspension Bible from racetech.
All good stuff to learn and improve upon. 👍
8:45 he just spent 1300 dollars hha
Chad is going crazy with all this!
Still blowing pinkbike out the water with every episode of high/low keep it up 👍
Thanks Matthew!!
Let me say there both great forks and I would be happy with either fork
i mean the bomber isnt super budget but i think a true budget fork would be nice on evans d5 like a epixon or markhor or judy/recon or even some x fusion offerings
I saw a pro ride put marrazoci lowers and fox uppers and it looked insane
Pink bike has some competition
Hey Evan, great video. Been watching the channel for a while now. I am wondering if you spent time tuning the fox 34 with LSC, HSC, HSR, and LSR plus volume tokens would it make a difference? Maybe you did that and I didn’t realize but from what you stated in the video it seemed like you set both forks to an equal damping setting and then road it. Just a thought. Enjoying the series so far!
I didn't spend any time tuning the Fox fork, but it just happened to feel so amazing. I was shocked. Maybe it was luck?
I really gotta state how much I appreciate the effort and commitment into this series, I mean you
Bought two of the same
Bike which isn’t cheap alone especially for a growing UA-camr. Big respect and even bigger production value. Keep it up 👍🏻👍🏻
I sure hope Les Franks is enjoying his new bike
Yup he received it and built it up!
Marzocchi used to build some of the greatest forks ever (they mainly build Moto-Cross forks). The coating on my Junior-T (1998) is still just as new. Now there's only the brands name left [like many great brands. Grundig, Blaupunkt, etc.]
As one brave man Said. Never cheap out at bars suspension Frame and bearings. With a reason. This is a nice fork on a low bike, Frame is solid, dont buy $10 bars. Low bike isn’t the cheapest bike. Same as headset, odyssey has a great deal at Like $50 or at Least it was $50 when i bought mine.
The whole reason the fox fork is more expensive is due to all the adjust-ability. Setting both at the same pressure and rebound is completely pointless and does not make it a fair test.
How is rebound completely pointless? Please Regale me with your wisdom. I suppose you have a vest background in super motocross? Superbike? World Cup mountain bike? You're a suspension tech right? 🙄
Mtb forks should be $150 max. Once you take them appart its embarrassing what you pay for.
Gonna go ahead and write this even before watching and say... K(C)ASHIMA is optimal street scred i.e of course it's worth the unreasonable price.
Haha right! Status symbol for sure. I hope you sub, cuz almost every episode in this series High Bike will be getting a status symbol upgrade.
@@EvansMTBSaga Oh I'm actually a quite famous influencer/youtuber billionare social media expert, I only sub to inspirational life coach channels i'm afraid.
Overall the fox seemed like a better fork but the bomber was not bad. Given the price of the 34 I’d probably get the bomber.
How did Chad let a $58 Koozer hub go on his bike! 😂 that must of been what held him back! Never ridden fox fork but feel the Bomber got a bit ripped off. Great series Evan, thanks for great content! Not sure if you will be doing BB/Cranksets but curious on your longterm thoughts of X6 direct mount?
Haha true! I used that X6 crabkset for a long time and I gotta say it's rock solid. Great bottom bracket too. I didn't have to worry about it at all and felt like the quality of a name brand crankset
@@EvansMTBSaga cheers, thanks for reply and thoughts Evan.
Hey Evan, just wanted to say that this is a great inspiring series and I enjoy this content. Keep the great work up and I can't wait for the video! The idea of comparing expensive to cheap is cool and I guess that it's pretty fun to do as well? I have always liked expensive parts, (not that I own many) but this gives me a new perspective!
Thanks I appreciate it!!
Pipe cutters work well as long as you don’t use carbon bars. The carbon bends under a pipe cutter and it weakens it.
4:26 You should apply grease on the headset, the compression ring, the top of the bearing. This assures it won't get stuck, and adds another layer of protection. So it helps to prevent rust.
Cool I will do that, sounds like common sense now that you mention it 😢
Hell yeah! Y'know it's gonna be a good day when Evan uploads!
IDEA for a LOW bike brakes: change only brake leavers to a one of the top Shimano ones. There is a urban legend that XT leavers on a MT200 transforms it to a "almostXT" brakes
I saw Jared from Cure Cycling did that. But Chad spent so much on brakes, I had to get some nice 4 pistons just to keep up
Makes sense given the biggest difference between them is the master cylinder ratio being designed for 2-3 or 1-2 finger braking.
With that being said you can get really good deals on XT brakes, I got a full 4 piston brake set for a hundred quid!
Last gen XT levers with the new 4 piston SLX callipers FTW. They are the identical caliber to the 4 pot XT and XTR, the only difference being the finish.
Love how you tease what part its gonna be about next episode! An XX1 axs derailleur!?!??
Haha yup!
@@EvansMTBSaga well thats certainly gonna be interesting! (And expensive)
The bomber forks nowadays are basically more affordable float forks. They have the fox internals so really the only thing you're missing is whether or not you have Kashima. I like the new bomber forks. Price isn't bad if you can't afford a Fox fork, whilst still getting a float without it being a fox. That's about as simple as it gets.
At 4:20 the crown race was way too easy to insert, normally you need to slam it down with a mallet or a pipe. That is probably why you had problems with your headset on the low bike. I had the same issue and to fix it, i put a little piece of aluminium can between the race and the steerer. As sketchy as it sounds, it does fix the issue nicely.
It was a split race. They are designed to be easier to install, but develop creaks later as dirt gets between race and steerer tube.
Marzocchi forks ain’t all that bad if I’m honest, my rig is a vitus senteir 27 2021 vr and it came stock with the forks shown on here (obvs I swapped to rockshox bc why not) but I can agree their not that bad
It’s one thing to use the concept from another channel (donut media) but to straight rip off their intro really sets a bad tone entering the video. #donutmedia
Sets a good tone for a lot of people. Plus that music is from a service I pay for, Epidemic Sound. They don't own it
Was the difference between the forks mostly due to the dampers? Or the Kashima coating?
Damper!
The kashima doesn’t do anything except make it look stupid.
@@frankapple4130 no. Just stop.
It’s the same as performance elite except the kashima which doesn’t do anything
@LemonTart such as?
Cool video mate 🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻
Personally I believe that many MTBers have bikes that don't match their experience and skill level. The ability to just smash through a trail and not learn to pick your lines, is a testament to today's technology.
The Marzocchi look good
first
Thanks for posting a video and letting me procrastinate a bit longer. Very swag
I just put a Marzocchi Bomber z2 on my new Norco Fluid fs2. The fork is awesome
I also have a norco sight vlt a1 with a fox 34. I love them both.
great video! i think with a proper service and tune the marzocchi would be enough, i like fox, the only problem i have with them is precisely the kashima coating, it performs well, but i needs higher maintenace and care, i seems a more fragile coating.
high end parts equal high end maintenance.
not to mention "It has a compression knob that I'll never touch."
you should a koozer hubs review, i see them all the time for sale, and the look very good for the price tag, but i can´'t find proper reviews about them.
why the video stuck, hold on
great video! FYI, PVC pipe plus end cap makes for an awesome crown race setter. Fits perfect around the 1.5" head tube and sets the race perfectly. Great for Cane creek with the rubber seal on it too so you don't have to hammer the sides unevenly.
How do you offer the money for the project ?
A site called buy me a coffee, link in the description! Thanks for wanting to help!
Well. It's worth-the-$$$$, to those that can afford it. I been mountain-biking for thirty three years. Tried a Fox 34. Wasn't impressed. Nor am I impressed of spending a fortune on components. I've always been loyal to Suntour. Sure it's considered cheap to the UA-cam bike crowd. The Suntour Zeron, and Auron forks are quite impresive, as is the TriAir 3 shock. These days, it's not about quality. It's strictly about branding. And that's what you're paying on a brand name fork.
Next time give yourself about an 1/8 inch of clearance when you cut the fork. You need space to compress the fork and the stem top cap.
And don't use an impact to tighten your bolts, don't loosen either it could stop too. Only use to get most of the way then torque or tighten with a ratchet, don't crank it. Or use when broken loose by hand the use the power tool.
Yeah that was my issue for sure. Thanks !
If you're a pro, sure because it's probably free. If you're not a pro I highly doubt you're going to notice ANY of the extra settings the expensive fork has. In fact, I'd be inclined to bet that if you gave one of those forks to your regular mountain biker, they'd fuck up the settings so badly they'd hate it. Most of us will never be good enough to compete at a serious level and if you're not earning your money on the trail, why do you need the expensive stuff? That extra $700 dollars could buy you one of the biggest upgrades there is...new wheels.
My previous bike had a Fox Performance 34 and a new bike has the Grip 2 34 Factory. After much tweaking and tuning the latter is much better than the Performance could’ve ever hoped to be. Ironically, it’s not as good as the FIT 4 34 I used to own.
man the chris king headset is just wow i cannot wait on whats next
On my bike was originally a straight steer tube i added a hope tapered to straight steer tube adapter with sealed bottom bearings and use my originally tope open bearings and been sound for over 10 years and just re-grease 9nce in a while
Bomber Z2 Compression/Rebound adjustments seem to not have any range at all - basically if it's not right for you when you buy it, it's not going to get any better without a complete rebuild..
I have a feeling I'll be wanting a setting that would be in between of a rebound click if that makes sense.
If we ever collaborate again, I guess we would have to be the low low low bike guys😆. We have had similar experiences with our timed runs. It is always fun to see what all that extra money really gets you on the clock.
Not sure why, but we didn't see this in our subscriptions although it was in our feed.
Going on the Cat's Meow with you guys is on my bucket list. I have the airline miles too could easily fly there almost free. Looks like UA-cam is pullin my chain, only 1000 views from the subscription feed on this one, and 500 from notification bell
For truing wheels you might want to pick up a park tool dish checker as well. Dish is the offset that your hub is from left to right. By just truing the wheel you can screw up dish and effect the way the wheel rides. Along with that truing a wheel isn’t just straightening a wheel you have to make sure the wheel stays round as well and not like an oval. Great first step in getting a good stand just make sure you get a way to check dish and don’t forget to check roundness while your at it.
This could also have a bit of effect on the feel and could be what you’re feeling. On my full sus i have a factory 36 that feels amazing but on my hardtail i built i have a z2. So far the z2 is good but I haven’t gotten it out on trails yet.
And definitely don’t let this discourage you from a z2 the forks are really good its just when compared to a factory 34 it’s never gonna feel the same. I personally think the z2 is a really good budget option that will still feel amazing if you take the time to tune it.
But overall I’m loving the series its so much better then pink bikes with actual good budget options. Also to anyone thats read this far please never buy budget headsets. Theres mid tier headsets that will do fine. If it holds the bike together usually you don’t want to cheap out.
That Risk headset was horrible! I've had some really good luck with Jessica headsets. I took off the risk and replaced it with a Jessica already. I'll look into getting a dishing tool, but I can say that the wheel is perfectly centered and hops were fixed while truing
Hey Evan how does the Bomber Z2 compare to the stock Recon on the D7?
I think it has a nicer damper so the bumps have a more soft feel. I remember hearing the Recons damper really working hard over bumps (it did a great job though). But the Bomber is definitely stiffer and ready to go faster than the Recon
Recons are for XC imo. 32mm is going back to stone ages for trail bikes. That antiquated hex key adjustment leaves a lot to be desired.
I just upgraded from OME Recon to a Bomber Z2. Definitely feels smoother over the small bumps, rocks + roots. I am intentionally running right at stuff that I use to steer around with the Recon. Don’t get me wrong the Recon held up well, 4,000miles in 3 years with no issues but the Z2 just plain feels better. I had been riding Fox forks on my previous bikes and absolutely love them. This bike was a left over with a $500 discount that had a Recon on it. In retrospect I should have upgraded to a Bomber Z2 an sold the Recon right away. I bought the Z2 new for $468 tax / shipping included.
this man makes me want to throw something at my computer every time i watch one of his videos. He acts like he knows nothing about bikes while at the same time able to build that wheel like nothing
Another killer video. You’ve nailed the time and angles on the installation bits; interesting and shows the process without killing the flow.
I wonder if a bit more tuning on the Marzocchi might change your mind. Maybe you should do 2 laps, first for assessment, second after adjustments.
no, not stuck again
If the red one was black and orange like the 1100$ one I don't think there be even a question about which I would go for long orange and black and What ever maker as long as they work properly ...thumbs up
Love my Z2. I read that its also stiffer compared to the 34, thats why its heavier.
Maybe that's what I was feeling
You can always add the Grip2 damper later on if you want.
Would like to know the long term review on the hubs. Keep on going. I think yours "high low" is better than pinkbike. Where pinkbike "low" is too cheap on buying the parts.
I have a friend who has koozer hubs it lasted him 4years before it broke
I have those forks and they are awesome. Although I don’t think they would be worth it on your local track. The trail doesn’t seem gnarly enough 🤣😂
I ride big boy stuff every once in a while. I stay close to home for filming though
Damn. I like how your version of high low is $1000 and $400.
Mine would be like $100 and $10.
For thousands of rotations 150$ bearings or in this case headset would make sense..
In the case of installing a headset, whose bearings travel like half a circle,and don't experience some tremendous load,it is simply showing off,and being a boutique brand brandist! 30$ FSA headset is more than adequate! Or Ritchey
Greetings from Croatia 😎
On the risk headset, I didn't see you put in the spacer at the top. Did you put it at the bottom of the stem, or it just didn't have it, or maybe forgot it, and maybe why it got lose on the ride?
Second
Wish I seen this video before I just purchased the Fox Factory 34 to upgrade from my Marzocchi bomberZ2 been told by so many people also my bike shop said the same thing & other videos that I wouldn’t regret the upgrade. But now that I seen this video makes me 2nd guess my decision 🤦🏻🤷🏻. Great video btw. Lol
No mate. Not too much of a difference actually. I've road downhill mountian bikes, trialsXC, gravity's... So I've ridden many different kinds of forks. FOX just has a good marketing team and that is what it really comes down to. In fact, I even road the 150 dollar forks from China that KIND of look like FOX forks 🤔 and I'll have to tell ya, the 150 dollar Chinese forks arw just as good as the FOX 32s/etc etc. Why? Because mates, you are only paying one hundred and fifty bucks for one and for two they aren't too shabby. Don't waste your money on FOX just because you have the extra dough to. It is literally a waste of your money. Really.
With recent price drops, the High bikes Factory 34 is now only $625, so I splurged on a kashiiiiima coated fork this time. I have the big brother from Marzocchi - Z1 on my enduro and while it's decent, it doesn't feel as good as the 36 Performance it replaced.
My friend got the d5 and its been a nightmare. Don't get me wrong bike is good its just he wanted to upgrade the fork because how much stiction the stock fork had so he got an X Fusion RC32 boost and its been a nightmare converting to that fork cause he needed a new rim. Got everything on and to be honest the xfusion fork wasnt that impressive since it had plenty of stiction even though it's a 420$ fork. Even after putting new oil and grease. I told him he should've just kept the Suntour coil fork clean since he never wiped his stanchions causing dirt to creep below the dust seals. I serviced that coil for for a guest bike and it preformed amazing. It has less stiction than that xfusion fork and to be honest he should've saved up for a marzocci bomber or get an Sr Suntour Epixon which I think slams the xfusion in performance
If you really want the feeling of the 34 just add a Grip 2 to the Bomber. Great series, Pinkbike ain't got shit on you!
not with the Z2
I don't understand these comparison videos. Every item in this world has a price range. It's like Lamborghini Aventador is worth it compared to Ford Focus RS.
I have Specialized S-Works Epic with AXS dropper post & wireless shifter. If you compare it to a Walmart mountain bike, it's not worth the money.
Each's own.
Your riding trails looked familiar, but your 85338 confirmed FINS. Just hadn't been out there much lately.
Haha good investigating! I feel like most west valley trails are pretty neglected
I purchased a new Aventon Level E Bike in Mar 2022, it has the cheap
zoom fork, after about 2 weeks the front fork makes a clunk sound when
going over some bumps and it's
pissing me off, it does not do this when it's locked out though, does
anyone know what the issue is? Or even an upgrade fork the would fit
this bike? Thanks John
Honestly i would go for the z2. The fox is a little to complicate for me.
You can always add the Grip2 damper to the Marzocchi. That's something Evan didn't mention.
It's actually quite simple, set up air first, rebound second, smash into a curb, or rock or root, test until it feels right. Do a test run for each setting, so test volume compression, volume redusing spacers, and air pressure, more spacers you add more support tyou get so, so can run lower pressure. But I am not a fan of having a big ratchet wrench with, and having to take off the cap with air valve on, to insert spacers.
But with my current fork that's not needed, I have two seperate air Chambers, so I can easily tweak the fork to be supportive and plush, I can add or remove air, do test runs, until it feels right.
Rockshox had models with Dual Air in the name, they did the same thing, but they no longer do, they claimed it was too complicated for many consumers, but the volume reducing spacers and requiring a tool is more complicated. I love my Ext Era, better than Rock Shox and Fox.
I am loving this series!
Anyone know if it's really true the Z2 comes without foam rings under the seals? Apparently installing foam rings and low friction seals from Fox 34 instantly transforms small bump sensitivity..?
Not sure you’re giving the Z2 a fair shot here since it seems your used one has issues. My Nukeproof came with it and I’m loving it so far. I may upgrade it down the line but so far it serves my needs really nicely.
No….but a 36 from chain reaction for 535 gbp defo is 😊 sadly now out of stock , fectory supply components not consumer upgrades as such. But stuff that it was half price
Fox is just the name of one big brand, so it costs more, but the differences in performance are very small that the difference between the two brands would be so big as much as $ 700, it's the same as with the Iphone. 10 times better phones that are 3 times cheaper
4:34 > Don't do that with a tire lever - You damage it that way use 2 or 3 spoons and pry up the tire, you can pull it out easily by prying up the longer section of the tire, showing that you are teaching entire generations and convicting hundreds of tires trash. Regards
:O that’s way more work than I’ll ever do. Lacing wheels yourself…yikes!
My bike came with a rockshox lyrik, it has 20 different compression settings I ain’t even bother touching. As an average rider I don’t need that since it makes no difference to me. I’ll never get scammed again
Lol brand new marzocchi bomber z2 is 1300. But my Fox vanilla coil 32R 140mm front fork is arguable the best fork ever made. Puts both these forks to shame.
I've watched this series twice now, it doesn't get old💯
Thanks for making great quality content keep riding!!
I've got the same pipe cutter it's anything but high quality it's curv holding the cutting wheel is binded back on with resin! It snapped on me stupid thing
I LOVE my Marzocchi Z1 air. It's the right fork for my Norco Torrent HT. I'll never use anything other than my Z1.
Like most super high end stuff, it's usually not worth it for 90% of the people. Suspension technology is old and competitors have closed the gap.
ojala tuviera la Bomber, cuando arme mi bici, no tuve mucho presupuesto para los componentes y no he podido actualizarla, la vida está cara y por ahora ando con una RST gila, funcionó bien cuando no le tenia mucha confianza a la "potra" pero ahora que bajo mas fuerte siento fondazo a cada rato
Haven't watched yet but will comment on the question in the thumbnail description. No. No single crown bicycle fork is worth $1000..