Is Marijuana Addictive? Talking with Doug Bopst
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Thanks so much for having me on! Really enjoyed our convo!
This was a fabulous talk!
Thank you for sharing your story. I really needed to hear this today.
It was such an interesting listen. Thanks for showing up!
You a real one Doug, Subbed!
great chat thanks :)
With all this talk of rock bottoms, I have to share a quote from Bojack Horseman --
"I don’t believe in rock bottoms. I’ve had a lot of what I thought were rock bottoms, only to discover another rockier bottom underneath. Eventually I stopped waiting for something to change me. I had to make the change myself."
I think this is what Dr. K is getting at @1:56:50. We can keep doing horrible things to ourselves and others through the cycle of addiction, but the moment (and this moment could be something traumatic or totally mundane) we truly decide we have to stop this cycle is where we start to rebound upward. We start to grow and change, slowly. Really, we can only know a "rock bottom" from a place of hindsight and growth, because we look back at our lives and can see the point where we were at our lowest.
Grateful that Dr. K had Doug on. Thanks to the both of you and of course the whole team at HG. Great conversation and story of redemption. That first pushup is the hardest!
Awesome comment. :) Also I really love BoJack Horseman.
Thanks for sharing the quote.
It's also worth noticing that without the inflection point, perhaps the result is not an upward change to recovery, but the downward trend continuing . . . to the funerals Doug went to as a teenager. Circumstances definitely help. But what truly matters in the end is your will, or your self.
@@maimee1 I also think Rock Bottom is often a traumatic event that like shifts your worldview shifts your perspective it's a big catalyst that makes you want something you didn't fully want before or something like that so people who aren't dealing with addiction don't call it rock bottom but we know about post-traumatic growth and I think that's a big part of what's going on too. I mean if you take the example of a drunk driver who gets in a car accident and then decides that's their rock bottom and turns things around whether it's no one got hurt or they killed a whole family that's a traumatic experience that kind of may be turned in a way into post traumatic growth.
Reminded me of a line from Dear John. I’m old.
Bye the way i watched this exact episode like an hour ago
This video really struck a chord with me. As a psychologist, I see firsthand how struggles with motivation and self-worth can hold people back, and the way you broke down these issues was spot on. Your approach to tackling these deep-rooted challenges is not only insightful but also incredibly practical for anyone looking to move forward in their lives.
This channel has inspired me to start my own platform focused on therapy and psychology, with the goal of helping people understand and overcome similar obstacles. It’s so important to have spaces like this where we can explore these topics and support each other in making real, lasting change. Keep up the amazing work-you're truly making a difference!
As an everyday smoker. I can 100% tell you that it is addictive.
When do you plan on quit
I smoked for 3 years and quit this year, I went back to it for a week this summer (a month and half ago) and quit again. The longer you smoke the more ingrained it becomes with your identity. I believe that the first week is the most tough by far. I was so tempted to just call it quits, but i used my motivation for school to stay away for a week and after that it was mostly smooth sailing. Your brain starts to equalize without the feeling of being high, and you get to a baseline of not happy but not sad. I take that weird limbo feeling over the constant rollercoaster of emotions that weed can bring during come-ups, as at least the outbursts aren’t as present and the sadness isn’t as much of an issue
@JRS2025 is the weed addictive or are you addicted to it? People can get addicted to literally anything. People can get addicted to chewing gum. Weed is not addictive. If you do anything for 3 years straight it will become a habit and a part of your life.
@@Mars-jq3qp agree slightly, i do believe that weed cannot be compared to chewing gum however, that is a little bit of a stretch.
@fwoogg7067 I mean in the sense that it brings comfort and can become a habit in that sense. It scientifically doesn't really have any addictive chemicals that would compare to nicotine for example and many other substances.
It’s a comfort zone thing. We get comfortable with the warm embrace of a mild high
@@LordofMangoes keyword is “mild”, because nobody ever gets as high as they wish after it becomes a habit. Wasting more time and money for something that can’t be obtained anymore
@@pachirisugirl7204 I really don’t understand smoking a whole gram blunt by yourself when a .1-.2 will do
The cost yea but it’s mainly the ever chase that you gotta give up
@@pachirisugirl7204I can easilly get there after couple days of not smoking, in fact this is the main problem, dragon is there and I can pet it all the time.
@@Dolrittojust stop smoking tbh, it really makes life pass you by and makes you forgetful lol
@pachirisugirl7204 you can take a tolerance break or just not smoke everyday
I’m addicted. I am one week into yet another quit attempt, after realizing I have some childhood trauma to work through and being high all the time is making that a lot more difficult. It’s also exacerbating my social anxiety and frankly making me stupid and incompetent, passive, and awkward. Funny thing tho is the timelines don’t apply to me. The first week is supposed to be the hardest, but aside from the insomnia and appetite loss it’s not too bad. Last time I made it 2 1/2 weeks, because once I hit the two week mark, I got powerful cravings I was only able to resist for a few days. Kinda came out of nowhere. And this time, I haven’t been craving it at all… until today. My brain is mad at me for taking away its crutch but you know what if can deal with it. It’s only temporary and nobody ever won a marathon while using crutches.
The one thing I did differently this time that I’ve never done before is threw away the rest of my supply. In the past I didn’t wanna waste it so I’d consume it as fast as possible to run out. Then I’d spend anywhere from a couple days to a week being super stoned all the time and kinda hate myself for it. Then I’d run out and then I’d be buying more after like a day, to help ease myself off of it after going so hard. And the cycle repeated. This time I probably threw out like $50 worth of weed.
Good luck man. Don't be ashamed of asking for help
@@Cowface Big ups! I'm on day 4 after bingeing also. Throwing out your stash is a massive fuck you to the cycle and I believe in you. Today I went to the gym, helped a friend, was considerate and attentive to my partner, called a friend just diagnosed with cancer who I regrettably ghosted because I was high and have been in a grande mood. Yiew!
Don't need a drug expert to tell me it's addicting. I know from first hand experience. I'm so addicted to it that I've gone through phases where it's a terrible, unpleasant, anxiety-ridden experience every time I get high for months and I still wouldn't quit it.
As for withdrawals, I've used it daily for about 5 years and have taken tolerance breaks, and at least for me, it's not that bad. The kinds of cravings I got felt exactly the same as the cravings I get for junk food when dieting. No physical withdrawals at all, just a little bit of mental tension from wanting to smoke it.
Yeah about the same for me but I feel like there has to be a point where it's physical as well I don't think I'll hit it but maybe one day lol
I think it’s pretty hard to have physical withdrawals, which is why so many people think it’s non-addictive. However, it can still be pretty rough mentally, many people will eventually give in to that mental craving but still think they’re in control because they’re not tweaking.
But yeah, anything can be addicting. There’s people out there addicted to the most random things, like eating mattresses and bricks. Look it up 😂
Anyways, I’ve been where you guys are at, it’s tough. Shit just takes over your daily life, but I’ve now managed to push it back to only weekends, but if I can I’ll try not to even then. On the bright side it wasn’t a heavier drug or even nicotine/alcohol. I’m glad I drew the line at weed when I was younger as it could’ve been bad. One step at a time friends ❤
Weed is very psychologically addictive. Technically it doesn't have withdrawals, but not being high on it is a withdrawal bad enough. I've seen my brain get so tangled up that I lost years of my life. My ex-gf completely scrambled her brain recently with that damn THC juice, which is an absolutely insane thing. Selling purified THC, that has no cannabinoids in it is so much worse, plus it's concentrated. She was with her vape literally 24/7, would wake up during the night to take hits, and barely sleep.
I experienced all that too, but it was more time ago, but I would literally roll and smoke spliffs at night.
I was high basically 24/7 too, basically as much as possible. Until my brain cracked and life, however shit it was to begin with, completely collapsed.
Every substance has a potential for abuse and for causing harm, even activities are addictive, like gambling. Some addictions are actually good for you if not pushed too far, like fitness.
I am curious, how long were the breaks you took off it?
It depends on the person, I’ve smoked almost 20 years since I was 14… the withdrawals I get are horrible. Nausea, headaches, shakiness, lack of sleep. I get pretty sick the first week especially.
Wow what an amazing interview. I noticed at the end Dr Kay seemed excessively apologetic for interrupting him which seemed odd like maybe he's out of practice with interviewing because it didn't seem like he interrupted much at all and it was a perfect amount and Doug didn't seem to mind in any way. The reason we love Dr Kay is because of his skill and realizing he needs to get the person to slow down and explain the details of an experience in this kind of way. It's what makes the interviews so special, powerful, impactful, eye-opening and insightful. :) Please Dr. K never stop interrupting guests in this kind of amazingly thoughtful, tactful, professional, important way.
I feel more important than willingness is actually having somebody who cares about you and holds you responsible so you can grow. Eric saved him. Most people will never meet an Eric who can work with them.
i've quit and started a few times and every time i quit the first 3 days are legit hell. i'm super angry and hyperactive but at the same time i'm also completely unmotivated to do anything, not even to play videogames since i would usually play those while high. call it a "dependency" but i really do not care, it's bad when you can't function normally without it. falling asleep also becomes harder for a while which can fuck you over if you actually have stuff going for ya and have to keep up a schedule. i personally know people that can function in life while smoking, even if currently high. hell i knew one guy in school that got better grades if he did his exams while high. but that simply isn't the norm.
100% agree and I just quit for good. Experienced the exact same thing
Very well put description of what weed withdrawal feels like. The hyperactivity but no motivation is truly one of the most agonizing aspects of it.
I really appreciated the interruptions and the pushing. I didn't want to hear his motivational speech, I wanted to hear Dr. K. Digging into stuff with him, and although we didn't get a huge amount of that, the interruptions definitely helped break into more meaningful stuff. Well done!
@HealthyGamerGG your question at 1:07:19, I think it's not about getting the people to hit rock bottom, it's about creating as many of the "guy who was willing to help" as possible
Hm yeah, maybe the focus has been too much on getting people to help themselves. In terms of improving society or whatever, maybe more people just need to be like that guy 🤔 I don't really know, but your take is kinda interesting
@@thederpydude2088 I think it's a really good point.
Good timing for me! I just quit smoking weed almost 2 weeks ago after 15 years of mostly daily smoking that started during a horrific time in my life. Really down today and craving it. It had been really good at helping me feel like nothing matters which used to be useful, but hasn't led to a good life. It's hard to talk about IRL because the weed culture is huge where I live.
Rooting for you! ❤
You got this!
Ive been doing it for 3-4 years and I just quit last week, after the first days/weeks it gets easier and you start to feel a bit more clear but its def hard. Just gotta find stuff to take your mind off of it and then get used to the routine. Hope we can both stay off of it rooting for ya homie!
Congrats!!!!! Tomorrow I will be sober for one month :) It gets better and easier as time goes on!! (in my experience). Rooting for you and sending good vibes!!
i was daily smoker for 7 to 10y (cant remember because of weed and life flyes by because of it). im in same position as you are 2 weeks sober and not giving up. i have come to conclusion that it will just kill you slowly and the upsides are miniscule compared to the negatives so not worth on a long run. PLS KEEP IT UP im glad to see other people in same situations so i dont feel so alone with this shit.
Virtually any behaviour or substance can be addictive, so yes, it _can_ be. Also, given that it directly modulates the endocannabinoid system - which which is involved with habit formation - yes again. There are also physical withdrawal symptoms if you have used consistently for long enough and/or at adequately high concentrations, so again, yeah.
I think most users aren't addicts, but I think most people are mis/underinformed about the addictive potential.
I think it's more of a psychological addiction than physical dependency as once clear for a few days the desire dies down but the first day is very hard in my personal experience and I used for quite some time consistently. But let me use the catch all safety term: but hey what do I know
@@mattpassos5689 By physical dependency, is that like how alcohol withdrawal can kill you?
@@mattpassos5689Phychological symptoms are worse than physical ones. I don't crave it usually when I have the physical symptoms because it reminds me why Im quitting. But after 2-3 months it creeps back in.
Dude Doug has taught me so much in this video thank you from the bottom of my heart Doug
I think like any substance and behavior that can be used as a vice can be addictive. And honestly I believe sugar is more addictive than marijuana but i never touched it until i was 25 and then i used it therapeuticly. Personally, it helps processesing trauma, depression, and anxiety. My life (a healthier mind, a healthier body, exponentially better work performance, etc) started turning around when I started using marijuana as medicine. I think the strongest factor in how someone becomes addicted to something like marijuana depends on a persons maturity (accountability, self agency, and thoughtfulness). Ive never experienced ANY withdrawals, not even in mood. Everyone i know are caffeine drinkers and will be zombies and monsters if they dont get their fix, so honestly, i find it silly to call marijuana addictive like its such a big, bad thing when the biggest negative effect of it is dry mouth and confusion at higher doses. I know there are a lot of people that will get stoned or super high with it and it just makes me sad. Take a little puff, get outside, clean your house, garden, play with your kids or your dogs, get some exercise, get some sleep, read a book, do some homework, hang out with friends, meal prep, get in touch with your mind, body, and heart, etc. If what you are doing is making you want to hide from things in life, then that isnt for you or you arent using it right. ❤
I also started much later at 25 and do see that I have become a much more productive person than I was before. The difference is stark, I used to be sedentary, nowdays I am focused on things I wish to accomplish. Before starting though I had not ever used it and had already gone through a process of meditation and self-reflection.
I'm pretty confident that I can stop completely, but its a tribal thing that I share with people for whom its a medicine to relieve harsh physical and even mental pain. I'll note that I also share much of the info Dr K provides, so maybe one day many of us dont have to depend on it and perhaps use it on happy/recreational occasions only.
one last note on addictiveness, there are many fake products out there. Including additives, pesticides and many of that sort. I'd agree for sure the general public is not safe from the clutches of capitalism, and therefore weed is not safe outwardly. buy from private growers only is my recommendation. people who actually know how to grow, and not trying to make a cheap buck which is what non-medical dispensaries are
I've been smoking since I was 21, I am 26 now, but I started smoking daily for a whole year until this 7th of August. When I couldn't afford weed, I would substitute it for alcohol. On the 7th, I blacked out drinking and ended up in the hospital. I told them I was in a very dark mental state, then I voluntarily internalized myself at a hospital for 3 days. I didn't want to do it but I knew if I got out that same day I would keep smoking or drinking and my mental state would be the same. I felt like it helped. I am just surprised I've been sober since that day because I was not expecting to end up at the hospital. I certainly was not thinking about quitting at all. I knew I was addicted but I thought weed or alcohol were the only ways out of feeling like I didn't matter at all.
2:01:13 Interestingly enough I don't believe in free will. Never did growing up 'cause Science and Buddhism. I became very thoughtful when I watched Sapolsky's Human Behavioral Biology lectures on Stanford. And I became increasingly convinced after I read Atomic Habits from James Clear. Yet, I think this revelation gives me more power than ever to change myself. Knowing the rules to my own behavior granted me much more control over it. Practicing control over it, though, I am starting to realize more and more the role of whatever is in the self or the mind or the will on my behaviors, and I do recognize how surrendering all controls could be disastrous. I think more problematic though, is overestimating your will, and how much you can actually control yourself or your will. Sure, when it's good, it's wonderful, but when it's not sufficient, and you do the thing you tried so hard to avoid because you have too much confidence in your will . . . it's not pretty. Sometimes it's good to hope for the best and prepare for the worst. But I agree, we need to develop our minds as well, not just habits and environment. I am that victim of circumstances, but I also see my own part in my victimhood. That's the only part I have solid control over so that's where I will also direct my change and construction at.
I've never had an addiction to anything, but I have friends who have. One of them (alcoholic) told that they wanted to hit rock bottom, drinking didn't give her the same *thing* (can't remember what, plus english isn't my language so). She just wanted to crash so hard, that there was no where but up. She never found that and she ended her life shortly after.
Even though I don't have experienced addiction, I do get that, that wanting to hit rock bottom. I was depressed, tried to end myself at 22 (36 now). Trying to end me wasn't my rock bottom. It was as boring as just waking up one morning and realizing, that I didn't want to feel so miserable anymore. It wasn't fun. And just then I started to find things I liked. Started listening to up beat and fun music, wearing other colors than black, eat foods that actually tasted good (health aside). I took so little steps to get out of the pit of misery. I'm here and still taking little steps, sometimes stumbling. Old thoughts still creep up, but I tend to just let them run around and cry for a day (crying really helps), and then take the little steps up again. Life is generally good now. (I know this sounds stupid and fake, and that I have never actually been depressed. One of the reasons why I felt/still feel bad is because my problems aren't that bad. My recovery was/is stupidly lame and boring. But life isn't a movie for most of us, and lifes turning points aren't great movie scenes.)
I desperately need to hear the full version of the intro song
Stream starts at 1:10
I think this conversation was way more valuable than the title sells it. Maybe a re-tittle could help a lot
currently day 3 with intense withdrawals. barely any sleep, can barely eat a granola bar, restlessness, irritability, intense anxiety, and cold sweats. it's brought out my panic disorder and agoraphobia after having that under relative control for 2 years as well, now it feels like im on "autopilot" mode which i believe is disassociation.
Is that from weed? Sounds rough I'm sorry
Seems like you need some kind of professional help to help you through this withdrawal. Especially when serious mental health conditions have reemerged and are so overwhelming and dangerous and scary.
@@zenyatta5064 yes. people dont talk about it enough and some even deny its possible but if you want to hear more personal experiences i reccomend looking at the subreddit r/leaves.
@@VioletEmerald correct, thats why i immediately started therapy again
I think there's a fun nugget of brain twisting wisdom at around the *01:55:00* mark.
The reason jail was Doug's rock bottom, was because he started climbing out of it. If he didn't, he could have told that the next time he hit a person with a car was his rock bottom, or the time when his grandparents stopped trying to help him was his rock bottom. What seems to matter is not the point in time, not the circumstances, that forced you to change, it's what you take away from them and how you process them.
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Dr. K, I appreciate the way you disseminate information, I have learned a decent about watching you. I was avoiding watching your videos on weed because i didnt want to conftont that part of myself, and I knew you would be correct and convincing.
Then I decided to go for it. Im 31, havent been off weed for more than 5 weeks since I was 17. I've been sober (i dont drink) for 2 weeks now. Im not sure that I notice too many differences, but im going to keep it going. I decided 3 months rather than your recommended 6 months, but I'll reassess at the 3 month mark.
I’m 21 and went sober for 6 months. Went back to it this summer for a week and realized no matter how much I like the feeling of the high, it will truly never give me the feeling of control being sober gives me. I am now a month and 16 days sober since then and don’t feel like I ever want to use weed in the manner I used to. I don’t think I can ever swear off it completely forever, but I don’t feel the pull to use daily by the hour like i used to for years. Being sober can and will feel just as good as being high if you develop other hobbies and surround yourself with friends you enjoy the company of.
Good luck! You can do it!
This truly might have been the most helpful conversation or anything I've seen or heard from HG or anywhere. Thank you for making him not gloss over things.
We decide how far down we will go. We CHOOSE our rock bottom. Beautifully framed Dr. K!
I've only ever heard "marijauana isn't addictive" from people who are pretty heavy tokers. I think it's a coping mechanism.
Yeah, anything that can drastically change your mood etc is gonna be addictive. Its just a case of different people being more prone/impulsive than others
Rubbish assertion, never a big smoker & that was decades ago. The people are addictive, not the substances.
the majority of people who consume cannabis are not addicted though lol.
if the majority did get addicted then what you said would make sense.
nobody knows why some turn into 'heavy tokers' but the data clearly shows the majority of cannabis users, use it occasionally and recreationally and do not meet the criteria to be deemed an addiction
@@Menstral I don't think blaming people who are addicted leads anywhere positive.
@@averyintelligence I'm sorry, I don't understand your point. How is the percentage of people addicted relevant?
It’s definitely addictive, but I think it’s the easiest addiction to kick
Loved this conversation. I like that Dr. K brought up counter arguments from (what I thought was) the patient/individual perspective and I like that Doug didn’t get offended by it and appreciated it lol
Hey, Dr.K. Would it be possible to add these shorter videos to the UA-cam Music app? Like the 'Interviews' playlist already there, I would love to be able to listen to these videos with my screen off; saving some battery 🔋 and some data 👍🏼
i think he already does post his 20 min videos as audio to spotify
On iphone at least you can set the video to picture in picture and then listen with screen off
I hope one day I could come on one of these sorts of podcasts. This guy is fascinating to listen to.
Wow. This was so good. Following him now.
This is such a great flow of conversation here at 41:00 onwards talking about panic attacks, im surprised that i had the literally the same experience but because of school pressure and family matters that really got to me.
I think I am one of the few people that can actually use marijuana recreationally and it will not impact my life. But that's because I don't like it that much. It works for when I need to be relaxed but I can't do much while on it. I know if I smoke/eat ,it's gonna be a dead day. It'm actually the same with alcohol. I feel like it kinda takes a bit too much of a toll on my body for it to be enjoyable on a regular basis. I am,however addicted to coca cola and caffeine. It took so much effort to give up energy drinks.
Try and get off the cola. Your teeth will thank you
@@badwerds hopefully,I'll have enough money for teeth implants when I am old,lmao.
I get that there are a lot of people who underestimate the harm / potential harm of weed, and it’s very important for this channel and this community to shine a light on that. But weed use is so insanely widespread across all demographics and lifestyles that imo it’s very likely that at least half of people who use it regularly legitimately have no issues with dependence. I look forward to seeing actual data on this at some point. Til then I’m not gonna support any kind of moral or mental health panic around it.
It's called stoned for a reason. Neither a pleasant or unpleasant checking out; some sort of squalid peace
Great interview!
I watch all your videos and still keep finding value and learning new things.
Really needed to hear some points given in this discussion today to start making the changes I need to in order to put myself where I want to be. Super insightful listen.
This was an amazing talk. Thank you both for this.
Marijuana is addicting and quitting was the best decision I have made
Can you share how you managed to successfully quit?
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That tribal community thing made stuff click for me!!!! You used to be forced into that uncomfortable scenario with that same person or people but nowadays you can easily be in an awkward position and never see that person again. I'm now thinking that all you gotta do is accept that that specific person will think of you that certain way until the next time they see you and if you want to be better the next time they see you you have to put in the work and to put in the work you have to start by accepting that a lot of different people will have differing experiences of your awkwardness but eventually you will get better at working through the awkwardness, eventually it won't even be there? That's what I hope would happen, I actually don't know BUT what I think is important is fully accepting that some people will see you as an awkward mess for a while but if you want to not be awkward and you keep exposing yourself to that awkwardness then you will naturally learn how to not be because you don't want to be
Dr.K, thank you for this interview! His experience is super relatable and is so dear to home because Ive been through similar things (a lot less severe) and Ive known people like him from back home. Good people who get "lost in the sauce" and dont make it out. This is exactly what some of us need to hear. The best person to help people with mj addiction are those who have experienced the pitfalls of it and come out on the other side able to communicate it clearly and without the usual "finger wagging" lectures. Thank you Dr. K 🙏🏼
Yes. It just takes awhile. When I quit, after smoking for 17 years, it tugged at me for about a year. Haven't smoked a single toke for 38 years now.
Amazing interview, thank you for sharing.
I ❤ weed and when I don’t smoke it daily it actually helps me a lot, weirdly it motivates me to do stuff, though mostly if I vape flower instead of smoking. Sometimes I will vape and then get up and clean my whole house.
It absolutely becomes habit forming for me if I use it more often.
I do think it’s a lot less harmful than alcohol but like anything else you need to be careful.
Such a relatable story. My story is almost exactly the same, minus selling drugs and switch cocaine for ecstasy.
I felt like he gave me an explanation for a lot of the reasons for doing the things i did throughout my life.
yes
Excited to listen to this!!!
Anything with the potential to boost dopamine is addictive. I live in Washington state, it’s legal here and I can tell you that it is extremely addictive. I have noticed that alcohol and marijuana are often the drugs of choice for people with substance use disorder and an untreated, diagnosable mental health condition.
Absolutely. It's why I uninstalled tiktok. I can't realistically just stop using the internet and all social media, but tiktok is just an absolute addiction breeding ground. Training the mind to get used to having dopamine hits every 5 seconds, ruining the attention span. It's a real shame for kids who are growing up with it, but I guess it is what it is sadly.
Great conversation, so much stuff covered here
Hmm let me think.....YES!!!
The interview gives great insight on so many topics at hand. I'd note many people sharing cannabis being addictive and I'd wage much of the cannabis being sold is mixed with products that are indeed addictive and harmful by themselves. We know the plant should not be grown with chemicals like pesticides, yet because it makes growing easy it will find itself on the market. Be careful people, and better if you just stay away unless you truly educate yourself as best you can. Personally I only buy and use from sources that offer solventless products and people who know about living soil growing methods. These are indicators that the grower knows whats harmful and not. I'd absolutely stay away from dispensaries, since these are capitalist structures and their only concern is making money, not your safety
man I love Dr. K
Short answer - yes. Long answer - yes, but there are nuances and depends on the person.
Without the life experience of knowing what other lives you could be living, how the hell at 17 would you _know_ to implement change in your life. Even if you had the right internal/external motivators, it would still be up to your brain to interpret that according to the experiences you have up to that point.
Thank you for sharing this unfortunate series of life experiences, it makes me appreciate the circumstances I had growing up even more, and also makes me consider how I can give as much life experience to my future children before they become independent.
I think the generally accepted definition of addiction also covers things that are very habit forming, which is where I think weed is. Not technically chemically addictive, but it would be a complete lie to say that it isnt heavily habit forming.
thank you for sharing your story, i just threw away 2 months worth of edibles and I'm getting ready to go for a run right soon
Great conversation!
I heard that weed makes you complacent with a shit life, which to me makes it the worst drug. Thankfully i dont tolerate weed at all and have abstained from it for my whole life.
all these comments about answering the question to the title of the vid clearly shows they havent even listened to the video
Indeed. They jump into the video and just use it as a forum for text conversations I guess with no watching the video at all. So weird really that it's this many comments.
I think a lot of people use social media (and include yt in that category) because they’re addicted to the social engagement aspect. Leaving comments and responding to comments triggers dopamine, separately from actually ingesting a video or whatever. So people on autopilot-dopamine-chase-mode open an app, see a question, respond to it, and they’re basically satisfied for the moment.
yes, depending on your operational definition of "addictive." next question
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'Who aren't stupid enough to hit rock bottom'
I think the motto of 'the aggregation of marginal gains applies' here.
People need to give themselves *just* enough leeway to do some things that are dumb, instead of just things that are smart.
The point is to exeripment but to PAY ATTENTION to the results.
Over time with this ethos, and therapy in whatever form that takes, you don't need to hit as hard of a bottom as our good friend Doug had to.
It's legal in my state and I've started using a couple different forms of it for physical pain relief (lotion, sleep tincture) I had an injury which I tried to rehab myself for a couple months and was taking ibuprofen/tylenol that whole time basically daily. Freaked myself out and went looking for alternative forms of pain management while getting professional help for my injured leg. I've noticed with the stronger 10/1 cbd- thc ratio capsules my (already vivid) imagination and anxiety can really kick into gear so I've been staying away from that as much as I can.
Rolling one up whilst listening to this!
(I relapsed sadge, gonna quit again soon cuz weed free is WAY better
En la misma amigo
Yup same... My self esteem is too low for the world bruh
Don’t give up bro it took me over three years just to fully quit and I’ve been three months free you got this!
I highly recommend watching Dr. K's interview with connoreatspants. The topics don't seem relevant to addiction at first glance but what they talk about applies so heavily to my experience with it, and he gives a solution to the problem. It opened my eyes, I literally cried
it's not addictive unless you have nothing better to do
Agree to an extent. When bored with no responsibility its very easy to become addicted to the feeling weed brings. When given responsibility, it can be the catalyst to quitting and going back to a sober mind. However, if the responsibility does not require you to be on your A game, you can do multiple drugs while still doing your “responsibility”. My older brother is a poly-addict (weed, shrooms, alcohol), and is still able to be the hardest and most diligent worker at his job. Additionally, this is because the bar for his job (bulk manager in grocery) is low and everyone else there is practically a zombie in comparison. I stopped using marijuana when enrolling in college as I knew I could do school while using marijuana, however, I knew I would not be bringing my fullest to the experience and that irked me. I believe that you have to have a reason that truly motivates you to quit, and it has to be one that will justify the quitting of heavy usage.
@@fwoogg7067 "I would not be bringing my fullest" you can definitely smoke and drink while in college without messing up your grades. Some people don't enjoy the feeling and some people don't enjoy the party crowd which is fine but not everyone wants to min/max productivity.
On the topic of cannabis, it’s not the weed stunting your growth and stability but your relationship and dependence with it.
I think it’s both, the talk about brain health and weed can easily turn into non-productive fear-mongering, but I still feel there is a place for discussion about brain health and cannabis.
Yes and Boys who smoke cannabis before reaching puberty may grow less than those who don't, according to research released this year. Also boys aged 12 to 17 who consumed tobacco were 1 inch shorter than non-smoking boys in the end and there have been studies on girls getting delayed onset of menstruation if consuming cannabis before their first period and it can really physically stunt growth seems very true in addiction to all the emotional ways the dependence on it does.
Curious about the story at 34:30-
Why did a car staying overnight stop that guy from growing weed? Was he scared he was being watched? Did he think there was homeless people in the parking lot? Were the people in the car high all night?
Pain is the signal that let's you hit and feel rock bottom, as unbearable as it may feel
straight up. Dr. K, the question you are trying to formulate becomes clearer when you examine the similarities trans generationally. I could tell you about the collective experiences of my friends over a time period of 37+ years. my cohort is in their 50's and there are similarities to this story and many of your current cohort you target. the bloom of dysfunction is related to multigenerational breakdown of skills teaching and its bleed into modern society plus wildly new effects of technology on the cohort you study.
I'm one month sober, my birthday is coming up. I might have an edible but I'm kind of terrified 😂
Quick answer for the video title question: yep! Any relationship to anything can be an unhealthy attachment and/or addiction.
going through weed withdrawal right now. i enjoy it but man, it does have it's downsides, especially if you need as much energy as you can. and the withdrawals are awful.
I too also had a rock bottom circumstance that changed me. My fiance has been struggling for 20 years but is still in limbo and not fully receptive so I too has mentioned and thought about the turning moment. But I dont know how to force or trigger such a mental switch without the moment.
This man’s story is so similar to mine it’s insane (minus the opiates and the success haha)
Literally been addicted to mj for years.
If you're thinking of quitting, I recommend doing it on the first of a month - it makes it so easy to count the days. I quit on August 1, and now it's Aug 11, so I'm 11 days clean. Takes the guess work out of it. It's not essential, but it's just a small thing you can do to help with motivation and build the momentum.
2:19:11 gotta go back to this
Anything can be habit forming lol
Im not sure if this video is going to do well. I know drugs have different effectiveness on people. However i feel like in this case, this guy is using "weed is bad" as a cope for accepting bad situations. Like for example. He spoke about a terrible home life and hating his job but blamed weed for him not being there, acting as if the weed was the bigger issue, not a crappy life and terrible situations. Also, i feel that the "gateway path" down to drugs is also a myth to cruch people giving in to peer pressure. If people want to explore something, theyll do it regardless, its their decisions.
I aint got time to watch video but yes its addictive but i feel like once you stop doing everyday your body goes back to normal its mentally addictive and at certain concentration physically addictive
Agreed. I have went back to using for a week during this summer after a 6 month sober period, and was generally fine as I was only using once at night. However, I still understood it was a bad habit and didnt want to give in to the feeling again so i stopped again. I had such a huge problem trying to quit while in the daily usage, but going back to it after being sober made it easier to know things would get better if i just stayed away from constant use. I think the main issue is when you start using daily, as you start setting a routine around doing it at certain time. With no responsibilities, it can get out of hand (every hour usage, all day) and easily turn into something you “cant go without”.
Please try to make time to watch or listen to this amazing interview! There is so much in here that's so well told!
I stayed in schoo, went to college, and now I work in a factory.
Factory jobs use to be good
2:24:15 make or break. I got adhd so thats pretty much ny default. If it isn't going to break me it isnt even worth the effort or attention
I think it could be
$5,000,000 or death? There's 100% that one guy who takes both pills. lol
I hate "i gotta smoke to eat" mfs so much
I've gotta smoke to eat
For me all it does is make me barely functional and gives me panic attacks.
34:55 Man, no offense Dr. K but I think that attempt to steer the conversation back to Marijuana dependency there sounded like you didn’t understand what he said at all. He was saying that heavy marijuana use was the gateway that introduced him into the crowd that played on his desires (to be wanted) and convinced him to sell drugs, leading him even further into a spiraling self destructive lifestyle. And your response to it was basically telling him he sold drugs and did all that cause he wanted to keep smoking weed.
ima hit the blinker and watch this, but I'm going to answer it first, it can be, and I am LOL.
You want a diversified portfolio of coping mechanism😃👍
In my experience weed makes complacency much more palatable, especially for a deeply uncomfortable and unmet young person.
Of course it is. Dude, fried chicken & shopping are addictive. Some people get addicted to running. I'm sure the ganj can easily be added to the giant list of addictions.
Great guest, really likable dude. And great conversation.
Yes it is and a lot.
Drug Bopst amirite
Great interview, funny how across the globe kids go through the same stuff
1:28:30
"success comes from surviving failure not from sucess"
Just call gamers sociopaths instead of telling them to go talk to a wall and think once in there life
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its addictive cause its a great drug, my fave drug in fact.
for some it doesnt do much for them so they dont get addicted, for example i hate nicotine and caffiene cause im incredibly sensitive to those and feel ill when i consume those, so therefore nicotine and caffiene isnt addictive (for me).