Technics Live Demos New SL-1300G Turntable and New SC-CX700 Wireless Powered Loudspeaker
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- Опубліковано 9 лис 2024
- At an event Technics hosted at parent company Panasonic's Newark, New Jersey headquarters September 17th, Technics Business Development Manager Bill Voss walked me through all of the new $3299 SL-1300G turntable's features and mechanical and physical attributes, comparing it to the $2199 SL-1200GR2 below and the $4299 SL-1200G above.
This video should clear up any and all confusion about what stepping up from the 1200GR2 gets you and what stepping down from the 1200G gets you and doesn't get you.
The new 'table incorporates many features found on the more costly 'table including the 1200G's copper-topped triple layer 7+ pound platter, combined with the 1200GR2's iron-coreless type double rotor/single stator motor and ΔΣ Drive that the more costly 1200G lacks. While the SL-1300G's 30 pound plinth is not identical to the SL-1200G's, it is upgraded in key ways compared to the 1200GR's.
The video includes illustrations explaining some of what can't be seen on the outside and an illustrated Technics historical timeline. Lots to look at and consider.
Also in this video is a considered look at the new Technics SC-CX700 Wireless Speaker System, which incorporates some interesting new tech and is far more than a typical "powered loudspeaker".
Following the presentation I got to hear both the SL-1300G and the SC-CX700 loudspeaker. Despite the less than optimal room conditions, the bottom end produced by both the 1300G through a pair of floor standing Technics SPG90 Mk2 loudspeakers and the 1200G directly into the powered speakers, which includes a built-in MM phono preamp.
It was an impressive and useful presentation, especially when, at the conclusion I asked whether it might be possible for me to get all three turntables to compare. That's what readers have asked for and that's what I hope to get. Yes, as Voss pointed out, that would be a major undertaking, but it's one I'm willing to do!
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Technics really seem to listen to its customers! This is what I wanted for a long time. And the silver / brass version is so beautiful.
Technics really stepping into the Audiophile side of Turntables the last few years. I’m all for it.
They've been doing audiophile decks for decades, the origianl SP10 (Mk1 circa 1969), then the legendary SP10- MKll (circa 1975 -81), comes with separate/off board power supply, was used by the BBC and many broadcast stations, a lovely genuine audiophile turntable. I have mine in a Panzerholt plinth, with Technics EPA A250 tonearm, and its matching EPA B500 tonearm base - on the fly vta adjust (more precise than that found on the SL1200/1210's). It is a gem of a deck, which i use with an Ortofon Cadenza Black moving coil cartridge, retipped with a Fritz Gyger S stylus profile (same as Ortofons Replicant profile). There's also the rare and expensive SP10-MKlll (circa1981-88). And currently the SL1000R which is effectively today's current SP10 - all these are genuine audiophile turntables, which you wont find used for club use, but owned by decerning audiophiles/ critical listening music /system lovers.
Ils ont toujours conçu des platine vinyle audiophile
The silver and brass platter combo is a thing of beauty
Should've put the magnesium tonearm of the 1200G on there!
that could be in the next revision
Great Video. This guy is Mr Technics and I'm sure you are impressed Michael. For the audiophile on a real world budget ...like me I enjoy some original SL1200mk2s and Sp10 mk2 and an SL120 with SME 30009 and a little SL7. The new models are great. Only I wish they kept the orange cue light. Reasonably priced considering the rising costs of everything today.
I love your videos Mr. Farmer! IMHO, Technics had to renew themselves after they left japan for Malaysia and the customers started to turn up their noses and claim that Malaysian products are not the same as Japanese products and that's exactly why they invented the Delta Sigma Drive. The technology is excellent - but not necessary...
the old turntables made in Japan were just perfect and the latest models that was made in Japan were equally amazing... but still even if the factory in Malaysia is Panasonic are just amazing brand.
They make it here but don't bloody sell it here 😢
Absolutely fantastic! Those guy's are on the ball , best of all worlds!😊
This is the Technics I've been waiting for.
Looking forward for the upgraded 1200G without the DJ look.
This is good news, although I would have preferred a sort of SL1200G, without variable pitch, strobe light, etc., in short, without DJ elements, with the technology developed recently. In other words, an improved 1200G, for audiophiles.
We look forward to your review Mike!
And with the elimination of all the DJ elements but with the recent tech upgrade the price should be pretty similar.
When I was a teenager you could buy a brand new Volkswagen Bug off the Showroom Floor for $1995.00 😱😂✌️
but the average salary was 199 !
The 1300G is very nice. I wish they could have sold it for under $3,000, though.
Nice table. A long way from my SL1100A table- with FR64S tonearm and Nagoaka MP 11B cartridge.
I really looked forward to this video. Thanks! Please review it in an upcoming episode.
The passive version of this Co-ax speaker received very good reviews.
😂 “I’m always a fan of digital in the service of analog. That’s a really good thing” - Michael Fremer 2024 😂
Michael, it’d be great to see you compare those 3 turntables. People would love to see that.
SkyFi has 45 minute review comparison on yt
@@stillaliveandwell5291 Thanks you. I saw it, and Fernando did a great job. He / SkyFi did a rather thorough job with the comparison then played it through those beautiful Jadis speakers. Thanks again!
@@NickP333 Now we need yt HD sound to appreciate 🎶🎵🎸🎷❤😄!!
Love my Technics SL-1210GR2, don't plan to upgrade anytime soon. Hate the intermittent static on the mic for this video ...
it wasn't static. It was a hand accidentally brushing against the collar mounted mic. Unavoidable sometimes...
Yes folks it's made from Aloo minum - only found in the states!
I have the 1210GAE. I love that the strobe light shuts off after a few seconds and have yet to use the pitch adjustment.
This table looks like a great compromise.
You tested the 1200G. Is there a video on how you set up the cartridge alignment? I am using the Dr. Feickert protractor and the Loefgren but I would like to see a video of the procedure. If I am not mistaken, in your article of the 1200G, you mentioned that using this alignment the cartridge was not perfectly parallel to the headshell. But with the Dr. Feickert protractor I am getting a parallel result in all my cartridges.
If my math is correct Michael, $10K buys all 3 turntables and the review can commence! 😊Seems natural for them to incorporate the motor developments into the 1200G next. I'll wait. The Dr. F Volare with The Wand Plus Tonearm you reviewed (upgraded Nordost wire) and Audio Technica ART-20 cartridge gives me patience.
Excellent review & Technics advance.
Technics were this good in 70s and 80s but by many snobs they were dismissed. Now the press say theyre good everyone loves em
Your thoughts on The New Beatles Analog Reissues?? You haven't been around much, I hope You were involved somehow with these upcoming releases. God Bless Mr. Fremer!!!
Looks nice, but What I want is a 1200g2 without the dj stuff, 18 kg. with the premium arm.
Looking forward to the review
Perfect! Could you please tell me who manufactures the Stabilizer Weight that's shown at the end of this video on the fantastic turntable?
A very interesting video, but spoilt by the distractions caused by the poor sound quality .
I would like to see Technics produce a turntable that it could be used with other tonearms though.
Has the arm lift been improved on this turntable ?
I have not yet bought a new Technics turntable because of this prohibitive point for me...
I still love the sound of the SL1200 MK5.
How much this 1300 G weigh?
Awesome Video Michael 😊
Soo if one is looking for SL-1200G without the DJ effects would that be a 1400G? Also what DJ is spending $2-4k on a turntable when the MK7 exists?
Great video as always! But when I see people place a turntable in-between speakers that are sitting on the same surface immediately next to it, I have to shake my head! At such a close proximity to the source of the sound that the turntable and speakers are both playing, even if the speakers don't transfer any cabinet vibration to the turntable to cause obvious feedback and tracking problems, there will most certainly be a smearing of coherence and fine details that's introduced by the airborne sound pressure as it hits the tonearm and platter. I have heard this smearing effect first hand which ultimately led to my placing my turntable outside of the listening room.
I wish more people would subscribe to the channel. Come on guys and gals!
Just did!
It is ia nice turntable and glad to see the DJ stuff eliminated and a more subdued styling. Would not have minded if they kept the strobe and platter markings.
@trackingangle929 Hi Michael, what are your top 3 TTs under 5k?
Hi, the SC-CX700 speakers look fantastic, but will they sound perfect and be a good choice to connect them to the SL-1300G (or the SL-1200GR2) turntable, or I'd be better off using an Amp say the SU-G700M2 and speakers with no built in preamp? Please advice. Thank you.
Why can't they sell this without a tonearm like they did in the good old days.
They skip the 1200MK2 on their history board..on the monitor..Iam wondering why????Was it realy TOO DAMM GOOD????
Great vid!
What no demo of sound, as much as I wasn’t expecting much I watched to the end thinking there was eventually a sound demo coming. I guess it was pretty bad. 🤔
It was very good actually but how was I supposed to direct-record it there? No way. When I get hopefully all three home I will make recordings for you to hear.
That would be great, they all sure look nice, it seems there’s nothing out there of any quality under $5,000. 👍
@@1999zrx1100 I wonder if Mike would consider making recommendations of good values on the second hand market?
@@1999zrx1100the new table/arm itself is ~$3,300 afaik..
I’m still trying to get my head around paying $4-5k for a Technics turntable.
In the 70’s they were just about giving them away. 🤓
They are the same in name only....
@@trackingangle929 Ya there’s lots of talk these days on Cogging and precise speed control etc. Some say the difference is remarkable, always been a belt drive guy myself. Love my Oracle. Hope to see you review them Michel. 🙏
@@trackingangle929 One hundred percent.
Great video
Thank you 🙏🏾
I was thinking about getting the TT with a Hana cartridge.
One of the complaints of the new Technics that have come out since 2016 is the chintzy arm lift. Has that changed with this model?
Not for nothing. The 400k players are starting to bore me. This is true engineering mastery. Much more impressive.
When I was watching the rep spin the motor on the desk I distinctly heard cogging.
Nice TT but still alittle pricey for me. I'll wait to get the used version.
So when does the 1200G get the new motor?
Take the rubber off and slap some acrylic on it... unless you like static.
Hi Michael, I would be very interested in your opinion on interconnects for someone looking to spend under $300.00 per cable for phone rca, streaming rca, and pre-amp to tube amp connection. Lastly speaker cables. Is $1200.00 on cables a waste of money?
PS. I’m truly intrigued by the 1300G. I have an upgrade/restored AR/XA belt drive. But I think there is something about a turntable that does everything in its power to keep the speed consistent.
Last PS/PS: Wouldn’t it be cool if an electric car company could purchase the 1992 Saab 900s trademark/Design and reproduce the Saab 900s?
The black rubber platter mat just ruins the aesthetics. Surely they could have made a rubber transparent platter. Would have looked much nicer.
Too bad Technics did not add new colors in the redesign, would of loved to see one in Brushed Champange or Gloss black w/ anodized brass tonearm.
Can you put a better tonearm on this?
It’s a very nice arm. You probably could replace it…
It would be nice if you could purchase this sans arm and add the arm of your choice.Looks great without all the unnecessary DJ stuff cluttering things up.Very nice.
Now, how confusing that I own the 1978 SL-1300 - why have two models with the same designation?
This one is 1300G
Given the 1300 and 1300mk2 were automatic, this should be a 1500 of some variation since it's manual.
The 1300mk2 got the quartz direct direct before the 1200mk2.
What are it's weak points? is it the arm?
Is money growing on trees according to Technics ?
Funny. Bill from Technics was at a loss when he was asked to describe the differences in sound between the 1200G and 1300G, even though he had heard both in comparison. He just said that each SL-Technics had its own sound. That's a bit embarrassing.
give the guy a break on a video presentation like this would ya? I'll try to get all 3 and do an audio reviewer type review...
My 1200 plastic cover has a broken part that clips into the swival that allows it to open and close (I have to take it all the way off to use). Do I need a new cover and clips and if so, where do i go? Anyone? Fry? Fry? Fry?
I hope the arm lift is better than the cheap junk on my 1500. It sounds good, but I always move the arm by hand because it pisses me off how they cheaped out on the lift. It feels like a .99 cheap child’s toy.
This one still has it.
Speed 33.1/3 ?
absolutely unnecessary improvements. if technics improves so much, they also should show up with real tank like 'heavily' improved players for dj's like in the beginning with the mkII sl 12's. and in a price category like the other dj player brands.
should be max € 1.200,00 . seems for me, that they only improve to make more and more money.
plus, it will never like a 'made in japan' player.
Time for another crop of audiophile gear!
Nobody harvests quality analogue sound like Mr Farmer!
_nobody_
Fremer not Farmer but I like farmers!
@@trackingangle929 Sorry Mark I got carried away with farm analogies and creative license. Sometimes I combine the two.
the 1300 is junk, I ordered one and returned it, got the GR and I'l never need another turntable
So a pre pre pre production or what. It dosn't drop until december? And you replaced it with a 1200GR not a GR2?🤣
@@clausolsen856 whoops sorry I was thinking f the 1500c, I hate when people make dumb comments without watching the video and I just did that myself, my bad
@@rufus_the_cat well you don't go through life without faults...but it takes guts to own it....working on the later myself...and I'm with you on the 1500 contra the 1210GR....different leauge all together 👍
well it's less expensive and not as good. That's how things work but I had one here and it's not "junk". You want junk? I can point you to some junk turntables!
@@trackingangle929 I was referring to the 1500 which came with a warped platter and a shitty arm lifter. Mike I think they should bring back the p-mount tables with full automation, those were the ultimate beginner friendly tables. That’s assuming the cartridge companies could make them again
They all look the same to me 😂
looks can be and are deceiving especially in this case!
8:56 I feel like Mr. Voss kinda wasn't entirely keen on the idea and talked around it? :)