@@joajoajb that's interesting... I am far from being able to explain this as clearly as Rupert or other spiritual teachers I like, but all these itches as you put it are arising in consciousness but consciousness itself is not them. It is what experiences all of these itches, movements, etc. As a person, the more itches, false beliefs, etc. that we have, the more they obscure consciousness, which than cannot manifest as it would naturally. The manifestation, as already mentioned, is done through a limited form - our body-mind- so if this form is solidified into its conditioning and false beliefs, these will be what will manifest... until they are dissolved through, yes, maybe introspection, but introspection is done from a person or ego standpoint, consciousness doesn't need to introspect, it is not the psyche. Maybe someone will get what I mean and be able to clarify, I don't need to convince you, but I am interested in clarifying my understanding. Hopefully, others will give their input. 🙂
@@joajoajb i forgot to ask you something: thinking people can wake up and then act from that consciousness, from that place of love, is that what you mean is childish thinking? Anyways, what is the clearest to me is that nothing Rupert says sounds dogmatic or religious to me in any way, on the contrary.
@@joajoajb you left a comment about five minutes ago that I read and now all of a sudden it disappeared, but I thought it was an incredible breakdown. Sounds like someone’s been reading Jung as I can hear hints of the embrace of the shadow self. I just wanted to say that you are spot on, to deny our shadow self is to deny 1/2 of existence, but a lot of people are not ready to hear this I’m afraid.
I tend to agree. Love is a concept based on our desire for our continuation of existence, and the immense fear of annihilation, another concept. Let me live, and I’ll let you live. Or love thy neighbor as thyself.@@joajoajb
Evil is not a thing of itself. Evil is a label we give to behaviour we find horrifying or disgusting. Rupert is pointing out that these behaviours we label as evil are the result of ignorance of our true nature. So, the explanation of why people hurt each other is an example of this process.
There is something more than just our plain ignorance - fully conscious denial of love. Cruel torturing innocent children or animals or any sentient being requires something way more deeper, darker than just plain ignorance. The so-called core of darkness, anti-life, unconditional hate. And It exists. Don't fool yourself. There is plenty of evidence in our daily experience of our world, that such dark fields of consciousness exists.
The Other is also Oneself & "The Trance of Unworthiness": I have great respect for Rupert, and/but as others have stated, his offerings come through his own particular lens of consciousness. Even he has admitted that no teaching is perfect or complete -- including his own. The one aspect that he has never addressed directly due to the kind of audience he attracts, is that if we take the basic abuser/victim duality, the emphasis is on how one treats others. But equally pernicious and vicious is how this manifests within and towards oneself. I can say this with some "authority" - I've been dealing with decades long chronic anxiety/depression. I live by "ahimsa" (non-violence) towards others, animals, insects and even plants. And yet, the inner violence (sense of at times almost being literally damned) towards myself persists. Tara Brach coined a phrase that can point to the essence of this: "the trance of unworthiness." Where does that come from? In this sense Rupert and those teachers in the same orbit are correct - a sense of separation. However... The "other" can also be oneself. And while very rocky, this does push me to consider that whatever drama and viciousness I still am seemingly addicted to, there is essentially NO difference between its manifestations outside of oneself (war, crime, and all the other horrors we keep recycling over "time") and what or how one treats/perceives oneself to be. To take a classic example: Did the Nazis or the Jews attract each other? (One could use any number more current examples, paradoxically Israeli-Gaza), but let's go with the most used one: --- Did the former manifest their own self-contempt by acting it out on the latter (kill off what one judges as others) and/or did the latter attract the former for the exact same perceptual distortion - except in reverse (be killed by one's self-judgement acted out through others)? Otherwise put, what is projected and acted outward ultimately is simply a reflection of how one perceives and judges oneself to be. "As within, so without." Which Rupert and other teachings point to in their own way - the separate self thing. These dynamics happen all over from the minute to the huge, and have been going on for eons. May we all at some point let go of all this inner and outer madness. And everything I've written here is also imperfect and incomplete. But it's my own stumbling journey in trying to wake up, somehow.
Because I completely relate to "your" struggle, here are a few conclusions I've reached. 1.) Rupert uses the terms finite minds continually. "He" makes constant references to the localization of consciousness. These are both false and quite impossible. 2.) There are no nazis, no jews. There is no this one or that one. Impersonal "programs", literal programs, downloads run continually, and these comprise the sense of consciousness that arises with the belief in subject/object. This one false sense of life, this virtual reality is all of its programs. You are not addicted to any of it because this "you" does not exist. Nor does the apparent "other". You are, and can only be, Awareness, undefiled, pure, whole, indivisible Awareness. The one Consciousness begins to recognize that it is not the impersonal narrative that runs. That is merely false identification. Nothing is ever personal. Nothing!
We keep duality in this world because we give it attention. Our mind gives power to suffering and pain because we make it appear in our consciousness. By wanting pleasure the opposite appears. When we wake up from this illusion there is no world, no duality, no pain. Only empty Awareness ❤ Bliss.
That’s not bliss. You are scared of emotions, happiness , sadness whatever. You want to be a cabbage ?. None of these so called gurus have found true happiness. They theorise, now they make a living out of it. There is no answer, no easy solution. Just be a good person.
@@peterneumann7145how can you say i am scared of emotions? You project your own feelings.! You know nothing about me. Im not a cabbage im a woman of 76 and had my experiences in life.. ...and it made me a good person
@@peterneumann7145 < ""There is no answer, no easy solution. Just be a good person."" > I'd say that's a very good answer, and a possible solution. 🙏❤
Rupert explained that evil is the result of consciousness not recognizing itself, and interpreting other physical manifestations of the one consciousness as "other." However, he didn't explain WHY this apparent or illusory separateness exists.
I agree and his answers to problems are always filtered through his particular vision of reality. It reminds me of the old saying: to a man with a hammer everything looks like a nail. If the same question was asked to 100 gurus, I think we would hear many differing and possibly contradictory versions. It leaves me to postulate that ultimately only the questioner can answer his own questions; what other people say is just information to play with.
Does infinite consciousness ask this question? You also didn't ask this question in deep sleep. The supposedly experiencer in the waking state asks it. Ask yourself who feels separate trace your I back. Without self enquiry questions will be endless. First find out who you are then see if questions like that arise.
The Universe is the Mind of THAT that we call God. An Infinite Mind. That Mind is Consciousness. So Consciousness apparently in the Dream it imagined that it fragmented itself into tiny particles (Big Bang)or atoms or starseeds, etc To be able to experience each part of the "creation" that's a Dream in the Mind of THAT/God the I Am. It imagined that it's a finite mind called ego. Ego is a mental energy imaginary unexistent. Only useful for navigating this movie-illusion that is a Dream. The Infinite Mind apparently contracted itself into tiny particles, but with this it provoked to forgot its True Divine Nature. Becoming unconscious and unaware of its origin.
He says elsewhere that separation and apparent evil is the price non dual awareness pays to experience anything at all. From the highest perspective that is a fair price. From a human perspective it can never make sense.
You cannot have a dual, relative world of experience, where everything is 'good', anymore than you could have a world where everything is left, or everything is up, or everything is cold. Cold in relation to what? It is like wanting a one sided coin. The opposites define each other and are ultimately all conceptual anyway.
Please help me understand. To me it’s clear as humans we have the capacity to bring about a more heavenly or hellish reality albeit in flux. So not a static utopia but let’s say harmony. How do we square non dual awareness and value or action without falling into moral relativism or inertia/doubt? For example in Christianity, we are all children of God but through baptism people then believe to be one with Christ and “saved”. I know I’m not being particularly clear but I’m feeling unwell. Thanks
@@rikkikeen1859 I'm just some guy and definitely do not have all the answers, but... my take on it is there is an absolute or transcendent realm, which takes on the appearance of an 'apparently' relative world, in order to have experiences. In the transcendent everything just 'is', there is no experience, no good or bad, birth or death, no separate individuals or any distinctions at all. So perhaps the goal is to be in the relative world, but not of it (ie, to realize it is play, but also that we are definitely subject to karma while here in a physical body). It is a paradox.
The vast majority of people feel separate, it’s the norm, it doesn’t make them evil. There have been many so-called enlightened gurus who have done ‘bad’ things, worse than most unenlightened people.
Perfect explanation here. A Course in Miracles is also pure non-duality with the same explanation. It also supplies the psychology at play in projection of blame, guilt and attack.
I believe evil is a product of severe trauma (torture) which sometimes, I strongly stress sometimes, creates individuals who are fearful and hate themselves and others - sociopaths - also psychopaths. Both sociopaths and psychopaths have a sense of detachment. As Rupert said being detached is the root of evil - for some not all.
Psychopaths are born without the brain capacity for empathy, they don’t have to be traumatized . Sociopaths are a combination of trauma and other things.
Beautifully explained. Exactly, it's the identification to an independent self is what's causing chaos. But if you ask how to rectify it, then in that question realise that you want a solution because you are involved in that activity.
Because that is how the world is. Accept that. Enjoy and be grateful with what you have even if it is the minimum. That is it. Sometimes we waste so many time trying to find "answers" because of fear to live with what there is. Forget about all that nonsense and practice enjoying at your fullest washing the dishes. Forget about others. Focus on your own peace.
That’s a lot of duality in your comment. There is no you, there are no others and by accepting the egoic understanding of the world, you will never understand the truth.
@@joyceleentvaar There is no duality or non duality. All is ONE. So there is no truth or no no truth. Anyway i like to wash the dishes. Well not always ;)
@@newcruiser true, in essence there isn't. Your dish washing makes me think of a zen koan (look up 'wash your bowl zen koan'). So yeah have fun washing the dishes! :)
There are a lot of teachers out there, and I find value in many of them. But Rupert in particular gives insights that never occured to me. Perfect example here... did not see that coming. Sahdguru is another one.
Yes, Rupert is very good, right up there. Francis Lucille, his teacher, is the absolute best of all that I have ever come across. Sadhguru gives himself an elevated title. I don't see how that's ego-less or non-dual. In fact, I've heard him say stuff that (in his particular of communication) borders on mocking the "all is one", direct path.
@@trial1884 Sadghuru has good knowledge but each human is his own best teacher. We are teachers and students at the same time. Always listen to your own intuition.
Rupert says no such thing as demonic forces? Does Rupert believe in what would appear to be souls or beings that exist in different apparent realities? If consciousness localized itself and resulted in ego, what’s to stop it from having created Lucifer for example? Why can there not be gods or powerful (relative to humans) beings with egos and whose reality is intertwined with ours as humans? I understand it’s all a big game/illusion and everything traces back to Source, but how could he or anyone know how deep the game goes?
I wouldn’t say that he doesn’t consider those things, but he is speaking of the ultimate reality that all things are from one unified source. It may be confusing or complex in a comment section but I’ll try to break down what I’ve come to learn. The ignorance or forgetting that comes with being born in the material results in the idea of separateness but in ultimate reality there is no separation to this. Things like Lucifer are beings (who have been anthropomorphized and mythically expanded upon) that are impulses or forces in creation that are all part of the game as you said. Lucifer being the ecstatic-spiritualizing-electric force that is unbalanced or ungrounded in a sense. Like if someone is driven to know all of the wisdom of the ages but has no love or groundedness, the Luciferic forces are involved in that way, it is a spiritualizing force. Satan comes from the word meaning Opposer, and has been intertwined with the idea of Lucifer to create this one ultimate devil being in the good vs evil debate of religion. If God is Love and unity then you could see Satan as fragmentation and perceived seperatness. If God is One complete crystalline mirror as an object example, and it becomes fragmented into many many pieces, the Satanic force is the one that says we are separate and claws for further separation and complexity (away from simplicity) because it doesn’t know that the source of its being is Love so it is purely lost in the illusion of seperatness or can even be called a force that acts in further separation. Lucifer is the unbalanced spiritual force and Satan is like the opposer, also tied to Ahriman which would be like a being wishing to keep people and the idea of seperatness crystallized and stuck in the materialist mind with 0 understanding of the spiritual truth of God or unity or love. All of these Beings stem from the interplay of the story of creation and materialization because for the One to become the Many the spirit localizing itself into various archetypal natures and energies would create various perspectives and that don’t recognize the Whole of the pattern and thus act out of ignorance of Love or God or Unity. And just like for humans who are acting out of their animal instincts of survival which stems on vigilance and fear of the outside world for safety (instead of a regulated nervous system that can operate from Love) these forces that operate in separation will unfold in their own manner of interplay separation seeking more seperatness and fear claiming more fear and acting out of ignorance ultimately until God is recognized truly and illusion and judgment of it is lifted.
@@13hills thanks I really enjoyed reading your response. Pretty much everything you said resonated with me. I agree that as humans we’re going to tend to personify everything. But I still can’t help but wonder how far the illusion of self, or ego, goes. And then what role those other illusory selves may play in our shared reality.
@@fcz32 🙏🏼 I feel as if the illusion of ‘the dream’ could go on infinitely if you zoomed in or zoomed out but I also bet that if we saw the whole picture of it would be mind-blowing and yet beautiful like a firework show x♾️, as long as we are not lost in the illusion. To seek the depths of the illusion feels like a rabbit whole but to go down the rabbit whole to seek the non-illusory truth is an amazing awakening of the self that I think we will all one day know 🙏🏼
It can be so complex that being evil makes some people feel good. They might not feel love and happiness in doing an evil act but it is definitely a mechanism for treating something inside that actually needs to be treated by wholeness and compassion.
Love and Hate/Evil would be a duality. There is only love and a lack of Love (like any negative thing - it is only a lack of the one main thing, rather than there ever been two). Love (Oneness) and ignorance of Love. 🙏🏽
Yes, as I said on my comment: evil ppl loves to be evil. It's love for them. They enjoy, have pleasure and are devoted to. "Love", right? Not my world! ...
If you are dealing in absolutes then Rupert is 100% right. Truth is, only consciusness exists. Period. HOWEVER, as long as duality only is perceived (that would be 99% of us), within that duality one must recognize the emergence of a seemingly separate second force in opposition to the Self and a plethora of gods and evil spirits (Ramana Maharshi stated this clearly). Jesus, Buddha, and a long list of Saints have all faced a battle with an external force whose sole aim is to maintain you bound to the material world as the only reality. Christianity has called that force The Adversary (Satan). Its existence is very much necessary. It is very real as long as you live in duality and even though you have attained jnana moksha, liberation etc... while living with a physical body, you still have to deal with it. Just part of the Lila.
yes its no explicable , otherwise , the terrible things that appens in this world with mere sense of separation...may be, but its difficult to think...
Waw, another brilliant one. Very impressive. I'd love to hear Rupert continue this by explaining the purpose of evil. Meaning why it is a necessary step in evolution
because that is how we learn in the 3d? evil is there (or we can use it) to make us better, to make us learn, advance and grow, to make us exercise our wisdom and discernment, and to help us make sure we actually learned the lesson. It is through the dance of contrasts that we actually transform and evolve, at least in this dimension. Its like learning to work through duality toward unity. You know light because you first were exposed to darkness or evil.
@@johanvoellner1849 Thanks Johan, that's great. I was reading recently how Hamas was abusing of women on Oct 7 in some of the most horrible ways, and while I agree with what you are saying, a part of me is still having a hard time understanding why such horror could be acceptable from the perspective of awareness. I understand this conceptually but I guess I still need to work on a better grasp on oneness :)
@@BlueBird-cj6xh I did not intend to start a debate on Hamas and Gaza, I apologize for the misunderstanding. I am against all forms of suffering, from anyone. I was reading that one guy was raping a woman and slicing off her breast, and that hit a chord in me. It feels like a unique kind of evil which feels hard to understand. In any case, if you're watching this video I'm sure you want peace
Its designed that way for Earth. Without the negative, there can't be the positive. Can't have hot without cold, can't have light without darkness, can't have soft without hard. Having negative stimulants in our world allows for heroes and positivity to exist. It's a way for us to learn. Afterall, it's all LOVE.
@@plumeria66 there are different levels of consciousness. It is not complete untill one has been assimilated to the final one consciousness, the egoic consciousness must be overcome in the life's journey to discover that everything and everyone is one consciousness
Consiousness loves evil. In other way it wouldn't even put attention to it. Creating a victime creates evil. So evil is a story for consiousness to trigger itself for creating more love. In other words love triggers love to creates more love. Isn't it genius design?
The answer to this question about why there is evil in this world is simply that there are many things that are unknown and will forever remain unknown because we do not/cannot really understand the grand design of things using our limited minds. As most of you know, in the double-slit experiment, observation (that can be equated to trying to understand something) changes the very outcome of the experiment. The answer can come only from beyond the mind, but even those who have reached that state are unable to explain it with words. We have all been told that the infinite is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient. Therefore, the statement "the infinite cannot know the finite" and therefore has to "manifest itself" is just a construct of the mind and best avoided. Evil is perhaps there just so that we can clearly see it as a huge obstacle and understand that until the time we can completely shun it, we cannot hope to find peace and bliss in life. The same with greed, anger, jealousy, etc. What advaita vedanta, or any other path for that matter, is trying to tell us is very simple: simplify our lives (minimize our wants, take care care of our physical well-being, and also improve ourselves morally so that we do not have hatred, anger, envy, greed, jealousy, etc. [this is the basic foundation without which we cannot build anything higher because our cares and worries will prevent progress]), focus on the real and unreal (i.e., things we have control over and things that we cannot change [this will take care of over-ambition, failures in life, disease, suffering, and death]), and accept stoically everything that is happening to us as part of the grand design (that we do not understand and should not waste our time trying to understand). The above conscious practices will automatically calm our minds without any need to meditate. In fact, we will not be able to meditate effectively until and unless we have mastered the above practices. In essence, a simple and clean life will lead to discrimination about what is important in life and what is not; this will lead to peace and bliss right here and right now without having to wait for a rebirth (another construct of the mind). If grace is granted by the grand designer at this stage, we will also be able to help others so that they too can smoothen their journey through life.
Ignorance is the source of evil. _"Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."_ _“God created things which had free will. That means creatures which can go wrong or right. Some people think they can imagine a creature which was free but had no possibility of going wrong, but I can't. If a thing is free to be good it's also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible._ _Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata - of creatures that worked like machines -would hardly be worth creating._ _The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they've got to be free."_ ~ *C.S. Lewis*
Yes! And for what purpose? ...to experience everything?? Why would consciousness want to experience suffering? Which reminds me, Rupert and other gurus, have said that suffering is good.
Evil is nothing more than ignorance. And there is a good reason for this ignorance... Why is there evil in the world? The answer is clear, once you know exactly why you're here - which is the best-kept secret in this entire world. Elijah has returned, as prophesied, and testifies: DESIRE. Your desires are honored, and everyone who comes to this evil (ignorant) world of LIMITATION did so through desire. I've published the complete explanation in book form. But it should be clear to anyone, mankind's desire for evil, which is indeed ignorance and nothing more. ("Father forgive them for they know not what they do.") And many of us can see that a man like Adolf Hitler or a man like Donald Trump are men who typify evil. And yet, look how many people yearn for such devils and the ignorance they spew upon the world! DESIRE. Desire Truth and you will get GOD and Reality, otherwise known as Heaven. But desire anything less and you get exactly what you've got, which is limitation: HELL.
Accroding to vedic philosophy humans have been bestowed with freewill What we want what are our goals how we go about to achieve them is totally induidualist I am the doer ,I am the enjoyer of the fruits of my action God has no role in setting our goal We sow we reap All our enjoyments and suffering arise from our action God has inunciated a path to reach the goal of life ,that is the ultimate truth This is dharma Onne who follows that way realises the truth
I am like a mirror, if someone is evil to me, then I connect with that person in an evil way or worst yet, not at all. If someone is pleasant to me, then I am pleasant back, or better yet I go out of my way to give them love. That's my way of connecting and disconnecting. I found out this world can be an cruel place and many times you need to have the back bone to stand your ground. Or nobody or nothing will. ( This is my way of Jesus saving me )
To be a mirror, is to be a slave to the actions of those around you. How much more saved would you feel if you gave love to the person who gave evil to you? That is what Jesus did. 💛
@@michemiche1764 Been there, done that. Found out when dealing with evil, good guys finish last. In my 70 years here, I found out the smoke and mirror paradigm, mitigates enabling people with agendas that don't fit well with harmony. I wish for you , that who you perceive as your savior to bless and keep you free from evil. Thankyou for your fair point of view.
From his perspective he explained how evil functions or its dynamics in action: Out of illusion consciousness thinks it is separate from itself and local instead of all prevasive. Hence it fights with itsefl without realizing it is doing so. But this does not explain why there is evil. If the infinite consciousness is love (hard for that to be so if there is no other to love), why in its infinite wisdom does it separate into local apparently independent individual units of consciousness in the first place, when doing so generates evil?
I like your question! I'm pondering if infinite consciousness is love but requires itself to seperate into local independent units of consciousness, which in turn generates conflict ie: good/bad, could it be for the evolution of humans/mankind? Both polarities could be seen as divine because without contrast nothing can be understood, thus serving your evolution and in turn the evolution of mankind. All things exist in relationship - a cause and effect world - from a Quantum level to a macro cosmic level. IF we're NOT connected nothing could cause anything to exist. This "connectedness" in turn creates energy which exists in all things. Therefore each person's conscious/unconscious experience will ultimately uplift self, others and Universe. Through this unravelling of the many layers of human consciousness perceptions we begin to wake the spiritual (or such word that is true to you) body. Metaphysical and evolutionary perspectives ultimately serve the same purpose.
Someone needs to ask him about the influence of negative forces from the lower non physical realms. I wonder what his awareness is of the worlds beyond the physical.
I would say not to try and understand this particular one beyond your own spiritual evolution. If I witness something violent, it is not going to come across to me as "love". At some stage in my process, I may be at peace with much more of what happens in the world I would term "evil". Your internal feelings can help protect you if you feel triggered in a situation in life. Honor that. What I am saying is don't pretend yourself beyond where you are (spiritually), or you will suffer needlessly in that as well.
I respect Rupert highly , I wish I could asked him in his presence this question , for getting an answer, from him directly ; my question is Rupert do you know that you know everything about the whole existence or consciousness or God ?
Rupert is like us, also has a finite mind. You may dig a hole on the beach but you will never be able to fit the ocean inside it, no matter how big it is. Likewise, the finite mind can never understand the infinite, a sub system can never grasp a meta system
This was answered in an Upanishad where disciple asked does an enlightened one know everything that's happening in the world seeing he's all pervading consciousness. The guru answered he's knows what needs to be known the substance but not the details. For example who ever knows the gold in all the golden ornaments (bracelet ring) knows their substance is only gold. So it knows everything about the ornaments (namely gold) but it doesn't know or does he need to know the illusory details such as how big or dimensions of ring bracelet etc. Some enlightened one may have siddis or powers that know the details as well but it's not necessary when you know the gold. When all the ornaments are melted only gold remains when the ornaments or supposedly created only gold remains.
Become as a child, admit that you know nothing, and all is given to you. I know this to be true from first-hand experience... Why is there evil in the world? The answer is clear, once you know exactly why you're here - which is the best-kept secret in this entire world. Elijah has returned, as prophesied, and testifies: DESIRE. Your desires are honored, and everyone who comes to this evil (ignorant) world of LIMITATION did so through desire. I've published the complete explanation in book form. But it should be clear to anyone, mankind's desire for evil, which is ignorance and nothing more. ("Father forgive them for they know not what they do.") And many of us can see that a man like Adolf Hitler or a man like Donald Trump are men who typify evil. And yet, look how many people yearn for such devils and the ignorance they spew upon the world! DESIRE. Desire Truth and you will get GOD and Reality, otherwise known as Heaven. But desire anything less and you get exactly what you've got, which is limitation: HELL.
Of course this is is true. .........if you have received a grace.....and you are very strong......to face...even a toothache...... One person in 10 millions....... Krisnamurti said he had not met a single person....." Like" him Most people listening practice self persuasion. ......To face very hard events.......
It can also be deduced that there is NO freedom of choice or Will. If there is, then bad things should NOT happen to the person because he/she can choose bad things NOT to happen, instead good things to happen & will happen!
Mystics - practice - to experience - God directly - even in the heart - if possible. As one experiences - more and more of the Divine within - the world becomes a dream. Upon reflection - the world is made - by human thinking and actions - and because the hearts - are focussed on the worldly and matter - results are clear. Hearts need to be linked - with the Highest - in all experiences. See/feel/become - those results. Him and Him, alone. Fare thee well.
Evil exists because of our Ignorance, we ignore the reality of our connectedness. Awareness is the thread that connects all beings. If we realized this we wouldn’t harm another as there are no others.
Nature is a cruel and merciless world and we see it as beauty and full of wonder and light because you don't judge it and so it goes for humanity when you realise you are nature itself and do not judge you can see the beauty, wonder and light in humanity.
Please help: Why does something 'living' oft times have to kill - causing the suffering and ending the 'life' of - something, to live? I hear people saying it's the circle of life, etc but I feel it doesn't fully answer the question.
@@PaulOutdoors thanks Paul, I am brought up in the Christian tradition. Where particularly in the Bible or are you talking in the general sense about the Bible as a whole?
One of the dumpiest questions of many people especially from scholars is that " if there a god, why evil exists? ". They think that if there is a god, it should please its creation. They don't know that evil itself is a by-product of the Creator's mind. Directly and indirectly evil serves the creator's purpose. Using evil, the creator shows Its an absolute totalitarian power and authority over all its creation.
Respectful awareness, respectful learning, circulation of matter by some critters eating others? I have read a proposition on a planet where all the nurturance we would need is Love.
Its just dipolar energy and matter...doing their unstable dipolar positive ans negative dance ...of creative destructive interactions, reactions, flips and reversals ....to create more temporary dipolar formations... Which then all reverse at some point to hopefully get reused and recycled! ❤😂
This explanation is a common one…evil is the result of ignorance. Except what happens when it isn’t? Most people answering this question are ignorant of evil and thus aren’t giving a full picture of it. People do evil out of ignorance, yes. But that isn’t pure, conscious evil.
I disagree with this answer. It’s basically saying people do “evil” because of having ego-defined as *any* sense of individuality or separation-and if they just felt everyone else’s emotions exactly the way they feel their own, they wouldn’t do anything bad! I think it can take highly sensitive and empathic people (like me) a long time to realize the fault in this. The reality is, you and I are not one being. We are two, with vast worlds inside each of us, with different needs and narratives and experiences. Feeling other people’s hurt is not what makes us good people or keeps our behavior “good.” It is an element of it, but caring whether you hurt other people (as most people do) and living your values around that is enough. Sometimes you will hurt other people while doing the right thing. Everyone has their own emotions and triggers, so you can treat other people as well as you can, but you aren’t responsible for others’ emotions. In good, healthy relationships and communities, individuals bring a lot of skill and care and energy to bear on understanding and managing their own feelings, so then they can lean on each other for extra support when they need it. Not everyone has the same goals or values and is going to be a “team player” with you, and those relationships need to be dissolved or become less close to make room for more aligned connections. A better lens, I think, is to remember we are animals, and we are of the natural world, which can be brutal. It is normal for animals to kill each other, or starve, or freeze to death, but also to form cooperative families and societies. We would like to live in a society where those “bad” things are not normal or typical, so we try to create “man-made” structures (our various social institutions and customary forms of connection and care) that accomplish that, just as we build a house and try to protect it from the rain, rot, mold, rodents, insects (I own a house, in the forest, and one small hole or unnoticed bit of deterioration can lead to water damage, or rats peeing and pooping in the walls; the exterior paint does just enough to protect the siding from the elements, which does just enough to protect the wall underneath). The point is, nature trying to tear my house down while I try to keep it erect is not evil or unnatural. Nor is my building and maintaining a house unnatural. The world is, as a baseline, chaotic and harmful (but arguably beautiful in spite of that), and we try to bring comfort and safety and function and flow to a life lived together with other people-but not a billion other people, just the people who want to bring the same sort of feeling and circumstances into the world as us.
Why is there evil in the world? The answer is clear, once you know exactly why you're here - which is the best-kept secret in this entire world. Elijah has returned, as prophesied, and testifies: DESIRE. Your desires are honored, and everyone who comes to this evil (ignorant) world of LIMITATION did so through desire. I've published the complete explanation in book form. But it should be clear to anyone, mankind's desire for evil, which is ignorance and nothing more. ("Father forgive them for they know not what they do.") And many of us can see that a man like Adolf Hitler or a man like Donald Trump are men who typify evil. And yet, look how many people yearn for such devils and the ignorance they spew upon the world! DESIRE. Desire Truth and you will get GOD and Reality, otherwise known as Heaven. But desire anything less and you get exactly what you've got, which is limitation: HELL.
_“God created things which had free will. That means creatures which can go wrong or right. Some people think they can imagine a creature which was free but had no possibility of going wrong, but I can't. If a thing is free to be good it's also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible._ _Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata - of creatures that worked like machines -would hardly be worth creating._ _The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they've got to be free."_ ~ *C.S. Lewis*
Sorry, I agree with some of what you said, but we are certainly not animals. We are subject to different Laws than that of the animal kingdom. The Golden Rule is a prime example of this and when our behaviour is not aligned to this Natural Law we experience negative consequences (immediate or later). This Law is also called karma, and it is in operation at all times and is immutable. Man made laws are man made and as such are changed depending on whims. Natural Law(s) cannot be changed. We either become aware of them and align our behaviour to suit or we suffer the consequences individually and collectively.
@@onebody9598 I almost agree with everything, you wrote, but it's NOT a "Natural Law", but it's The Creator's Law of Love, Matthew 7,12, as the Law of Karma is also a Law made by The Creator. Mathew 7,12 is NOT a "golden rule" (I know, people call it that, and that's properly why, you referred to it that way), because it actually states in the last part of that word of Jesus: "...for this is THE LAW." - The Creator's/God's Law, which every sincere seeker of God's truth should strive to eventually master - because striving to master this moral ideal is the same as seeking God's truth! But well done, understanding the truth, as it's supposed to be understood! I respect that! 😎👍 Another more easily understandable way of expressing Matthew 7,12, is as follows: "You shall not do unto others, as you would not, that others should do unto you. You shall do unto others, as you would, that others should do unto you." (Jesus)
@@practice-righteousness thank you so much for your reply. Yes, I think the wording has caused some confusion between us. Natural Laws are Divine (Spiritual) Laws and our behaviour is governed by them. The law of Love as you have called the 'Golden Rule' as it is also known as i.e, do unto others, etc, is the summary (whole) of Natural/Divine Law(s) There are consequences for not aligning our behaviour with this, and they are felt individually and collectively. And so we try by the Grace of God ❤️🙏 Respect to you too 🙂and peace be with you 🙂👍❤️🙏x
Asking the question “If God Exists, Why is there evil in the world ?”…… just doesn’t make any sense. Because, “If you are not in awe, you are not paying close enough attention.” So, the question becomes, Why are you not paying close enough attention to find out if you experience awe? And if awe arises in your experience, then the question“If God Exists, Why is there evil in the world ?” Falls away into the abyss of questions that need answers and dissipates into thin air….as it dawns on us that the question is meaningless?
Once everything is understood, there will be no worries. Whatever you don't understand, trouble will arise. Worry is a danger and an obstacle in our lives. Worry will produce wrong thinking, wrong ideas, wrong views and expressions, which in turn will lead us (body, mouth, and mind) to make wrong behaviors. These deviant educations will bring misfortune in your life. Even if you go down to the lower three lower realms, you still don’t know why you go down. Without knowing the truth, one remains ignorant. After understanding the truth, our wisdom will be revealed.
The one philosophical, logical issue I see here is as follows: The "almighty" infinite decides to loose itself in its creation thus becoming finite through an act of Will. This act of Will creates the experience of suffering. Therefore it's not an unlucky or unwanted experience but rather something that is willed into existence. Sounds kinda bad right? But remember, the only thing suffering is the infinite itself through "your" localized eyes. There is no self, never was. Labeling this process of something accidental or "the infinite can't know itself directly" is speaking too low of it as it knows everything and has, as the " - " suggest never truly forgotten nor never not known.
Very well put, it is this fragmented, isolated mind that becomes fear driven and leads to the looking out for number one mind set, at any cost. Spiritual practice reconnects us with what we truly are, reaching a point where it is impossible to inflict harm on another human being or any living creature. This is the fall from grace spoken of in the Christian Bible, from God consciousness to the ego mind (the false self). When more than one person engages in an act of good or bad, it’s effects are magnified, people caught up in crowd violence, often report doing things they normally would never do. The same is true for prayer, as the Bible says, if two or more are gathered in my name, I’am there with them. The materialistic world has driven people to engage more with the ego mind, becoming more narcissistic and worse, it is one of the reasons why the world is the way it is. We are in deep trouble, unless there is a major shift in consciousness, it all starts with the mind.
*Do you realize the word Spirit originally meant "A Full Description" or "Record of anything" ???* *For example : "Is it in the Spirit of the game ???"* *The Definition of the word Spirit has changed through the course of history...*
Spirit is the non physical part of a person, which is the seat of emotions and character, the soul. Or as in your example, the prevailing mood or attitude of a person or group of people, or period of time. As in, I hope the team will build on this spirit of confidence.
@@pantherzzz111 *The human spirit is EVIL as the human body Contains DOUBLE LOGIC in its GENOME, which adversely affects ALL human functions, including Thought and Reason, as well as causing Suffering and DEATH !* *But the Spirit of "LIFE The Real Self" is Holy, as "LIFE The Real Self" is an Offspring, and Child of "The LIGHT",..* *"The LIFE of GOD"... Many CONFUSE "LIFE The Real Self" with the Spirit, but the Spirit is just "A Full Description, and Record" of "LIFE The Real Self" !*
@@pantherzzz111 *The SOUL is NOT "LIFE The Real Self"... Next to my name is a 100 % Accurate miniature drawing of The SOUL...* *HOW do I know this ??? Because I went to "The Marriage Supper of The Lamb", and now I, "LIFE The Real Self" NOT the human body, resides in The HOUSE of GOD !*
Appreciate the original comment. So do you have a comparative religious take on salvation from said Fall? Without a specific or the “right” discipline the modern mind just fragments.
Jesus said that those who suffers are blessed. I learnt the deep meaning of this statement after a very serious accident that my little daughter had just exactly when we ha leaved our Country of birth in search for freedom. If it were not for that immense suffering, due to my highly materialistic Marxist former education I would never redirected the focus of my search of freedom to spirituality
Why don't you just say: "I don't know" Rupert. That is the best and honest answer. I am by no means sold on Evolutionary theory but (sadly) that probably gives us our best explanation of suffering both man-made and natural.
Because we are the world...and we've let ourselves fall away from grace for a long time, we become evil, the world becomes us. Fix ourselves, fix the world...
If no one sees a lion eating a wild beast alive does it it not happen. Suffering exists outside of anyone's consciousness. Out attempts and failures at dealing with this are a result not a cause
we,human, want to survive. So we define the things that hurt us as bad, the things that help us to live as good. However, god doesn’t need to worry about living or death, everything to it is just the shifting of energy. Also, if there’s a god, it must be beyond time and space, so it sees past, present and future at same time. So to my opinion, god doesn’t recognize or need to recognize good or bad. Everything is just being.
"Even the source of evil is love", it's important to understand that this evil (due to the illusion of separation) is not real, it's an illusion, a dream of the primordial Consciousness, otherwise it makes no sense.
Brains abstract the physical world into something our brains can simply understand. The same goes for infinity. Once you understand infinity, you'll have an idea of the rules, how it works, how to do bijections between different sets, etc. You build a mental model of infinity, just like you build a mental model of a first or a Chair, or Nicaragua, or happiness, or your mother. Beautiful minds build a home, family, love, happiness etc and unable to comprehend them in connection with finite mind and infinite mind. What is forever is the fundamemtal if you could unferstand.
RS did v well there imho until the very end when he said the source of evil is love. This is the problem w the Advaita dogma that the Universe is ultimately God - goodness. Clearly the cosmology needs to shift to the Noumenal being the source of both good and evil, just as it is the source of our ability to analyse our experience physically or mentally. The Fabric of Reality is itself devoid of characteristics as it is the ground of characterisation. Thus, it is neither good nor evil nor physical nor ideational except perhaps as and when we make it so.
It just hurts Sometimes it’s repulsive Sometimes it’s completely hopeless and agonizing The situations that humanity faces blow me away, the executions, the violations I’ve seen it’s purpose BUT DAMN DOES IT FUCKING HURT
When consciousness appears to manifest itself from a localised point, it must have total freedom within that manifestation otherwise there would be no point to it. Freedom is ‘acting’ between extremes of good and evil.
There is no evil in the Singularity. All evil is a product of a corruption of the human heart. There is only One God of Infinite Truth, Light and Goodness. Just as darkness is an absence of Light, evil is an absence of Goodness.
Why does the feeling of separation and the potential desire to harm the apparent Other arise out of an Infinite Loving Consciousness. Is there something in the "forgetting" that occurs when the One becomes form, becomes "human" where something goes awry? Why is it that this illusory belief in being separate, leads some souls to do so much harm to the apparent Other?!
One reason might be that when you feel separate and you identify with the form, you see others as threats and you feel like you need to protect yourself? Depending on how strong your sense of separation is, you may have a tendency to be defensive or to "attack and ask questions later" as we sometimes put it. Also, I think it is simply the nature of consciousness to want to experience/manifest (no reason per se, just its nature) and taking a form like humans was the only way to do that but at first, as Rupert said in the past, to forget it's true nature was the sacrifice it had to make... until our body-mind evolves enough to allow us (consciousness) to remember who we truly are, in the same way it evolved on any other level, I guess... I would love to hear others thoughts about this 🙏
@priscillabeauchemin4752 My queries are mostly rhetorical I suppose... I thought it would be interesting to reach out to the community... I'm still not exactly clear on how, from a source of infinite, loving, consciousness, there arises such as apparent spectrum of behavioral vibrations?! We know how Christianity explains this, how Bhuddism does... All doctrine aside, It just feels like some darkness more than ignorance enters the process during the transition/ the forgetting. from "I Am'' to "Here I am, it's me, King Lear!" For some, this lack of Light leads to unspeakable acts which have been visited upon humanity since we arose out of the One. Ill keep up with the self enquiry!! Between stumbling upon Rupert and through him, Ramana Maharshi, I feel as though after a lifetime of spiritual questing, I have finally found my way, and it's all right here! Blessings!
Throughout the evolution of the kingdoms of mineral, plant, animal, human, it has been an evolution of consciousness towards the Light, towards life, and towards survival. To survive in a dangerous world that has been evolving through seperatness is to react in fight or flight and make judgment calls based on survival. Even though it may seem like humans are passed this survival-based thinking or fear-of-survival way of being, many people being very identified with their temporal personal are acting rather subconsciously out of fear of the unknown and trying to keep their conscious mind in a comfort zone of sorts. There may be a ‘switch’ that happens where a person stops operating primarily from their lower centers and rises into the evolution of living from the heart-center and is operating based on love and selflessness where they are no longer worried of the fear of death because they recognize their eternal nature as their true self. But the desire to harm another or anything of that sort all stems from forgetting the eternal picture or the divinity of it all including themselves, and act out of animalistic dog-eat-dog means for survival or domination. We see this in war, if everyone would lay their weapons down then war would be over, but everyone is too afraid and non-trusting because if they show their vulnerability and lay down their defenses then they fear extinction and the cycle driven by fear, separation, and hate continues.
It may sound strange or silly to zoom that far out and see it from that perspective but imagine INFINITY becoming ONE, then splitting like a cell into TWO, masculine and feminine counterpart, then the feminine energy being the negative charge (🚹+ 🔋 -🚺) (like a proton + and an electron - within an atom) becoming the gross matter of creation and FORM (delving into the darkness of unconsciousness) and the divine Masculine being the FORMLESS infinite that now seems distant and separate from us, the form who strives through the mud on its way back. Something like the story of Adam and Eve and the fall, coming full circle with the kingdom of heaven coming to earth, a return to a lost Eden. Or the story of the prodigal son where one leaves home becomes the lowest of the low then returns home and is welcomed fully with no judgment. The infinite consciousness ‘divided’ into descended levels of vibration to become form to know itself and rediscover itself, descending into darkness and ascending back to consciousness. Just like the hero’s journey, or Carl Jung’s teaching of bringing awareness to make the unconscious mind conscious and operating from a place of non-fractured wholeness. In the one MIND, we are like conscious mind rediscovering and bringing awareness back to the places where we have become unconscious, and all of that is THE UNKNOWN to us, the sub-perceptible things that we are unsure about as a society, unifying in Love back to wholeness again in its own evolutionary co-operative way. Hope this helps. Apologies for rabbit holing 🐇
Continued: in very layman’s terms for imagery-sake, essentially that the infinite stillness becomes energy of the Great Spirit, which becomes the Great Father and Great Mother, two polarities of subtle energy and gross matter, and went from one consciousness to an APPARENT spectrum, multidimensional. The seed into the dark soil, and now the entire unfolding of dimensions back to the fullness of the One as a 🌹 occurs through space and time and back towards its realization of Self and Wholeness again, through the balancing and unification of the polarized split forces of Masculine and Feminine, Spirit and Matter, Love and Wisdom through action, Heart and Mind through these bodies. This is all very spit-fiery language that is rather poor examples of the truly indescribable from a human perspective, from a limited mind, from a conceptual and mammalian standpoint that knows life through father and mother connection. The evolution of consciousness is the cleaning of the mirror within to recognize the pure light of awareness shining back but whatever helps understanding may be useful, however the key 🔑 is surrendering the mind, senses, and all concepts to the infinite and returning to the place of Being. Touching the ocean of consciousness that we are when the waves settle. All of this being said, it SEEMS like an upward striving but I think at a certain point in the realization of all of this, one comes to realize that all of these seemingly separate efforts are truly the natural unfolding and magnetic pull of GRACE, when one truly comes to experientially know that there is no separation. And my final words on this, is that even though of all these things I’m saying are conceptualizing, and therefore seemingly things that happened someplace sometime, all of reality is still light in motion like a pendulum, various frequency of vibration, becoming appearances. Though these things sound like I’m speaking of OTHERWORLDLY things or OTHERNESS, it is all a part of the story of creation and it is all within each of us, we are all ALL of it, it is not separate or external, it comes from the inside projected out. I suggest all of Rupert’s videos, also look up The Alchemist (Sarah Elkhady), David R. Hawkins 📚 and Mooji’s teachings as well. Feel free to comment back to me if you wish. Peace ✌🏼😊
I am afraid to have to tell you but duality is how it was meant to be. This is the game guys, you selected to live in duality before incarnation, for experience only to see if you're self love will awaken you to this insane impossibility and you can choose again. This world is a creation, a virtually but not reality. Reality is only singularity where we dwell always and forever never leaving. Only in dreams is it possible to have duality. We are all holy children in virtual experience only. Everyone is safe always.
Excellent explanation ❤ However, how do you account for evolution? ‘natural selection’, stars being destroyed so that new elements are created, etc. A lot of ‘hurt’ happens in the process. What’s the end goal of the evolution? Who knows?
If we still want aggregate and mind, like good mind. Good mind will bring us up. In good mind, there is known mind and unknown mind. Known mind watch unknown mind. Know mind will bring our perception to the Nibbana. Unknown mind will cycle and reel in reel, bringing our perception in the cycle. Ref: Buddha Ref: Sanga
If we are infinite consciousness and there is no separate self nor a doer then is infinate consciousness performing the evil and destroying the earth etc? Rupert says only infinate consciousness exists and that it controls all the earth and is all there is and that the separate self takes credit as a thought after the act. I just can't get my head around that. Why does the love and peace of the infinate manifest like that if it's the controller of everything and why even blame the ego or separate self.
So we have a singularity splitting into a dualistic manifest reality in order to create a feedback loop, the term good and evil may as well be hot and cold at the level of the singularity if we remove our humanistic concepts of morality, there seems to be an incompatibility of states of the singularity vs it’s dualistic expression, but such cannot comprehend itself otherwise, without knowing what it is not, this reconciles the disparity. Eventually Anna comes to realise that hurting Alice hurts Anna and in effect this shows Anna who she really is. The only possible purpose of this, is if the singularity is an evolving intelligence that’s is not in a static state, implying it’s active. Or something is searching to know itself and so are all its fragmentations lost in the illusionary construct of space and time. It’s quite fascinating what he’s said really, if you think of death and our finite life’s and apply the know what it’s not theorem, being reductive, can give an interesting conclusion. Is this what the speaker means ?
This question was never really answered by any individual ever in existence and I didn't expect Rupert to succeed either. There is no way no how that infinite intelligence would build a construct that enables itself to distance knowing from form. Infinite yet limited seems highly contradicting. "Oh you guys are messing one another up down there? Oh, I had no idea... I am infinite and cannot experience the finite." How incredibly convenient... Also directedly contradicts all the stories about how you choose your parents, how you choose to be here, how you choose to suffer. And all that nonsense that clearly ties everything together as a thought out plan from start to finish, suffering and all. Not to mention all the stories from NDE experiencers... Why can't we just accept that we don't know? No God would allow a world like this, in which you are born without (a record of) consent and then suffer until the end of life. And then when you die.... SURPRISE! IT was all a dream, it was all a lesson. No realization, reveal, enlightment or anything will ever balance that out for me. Ever. This is simply unforgivable. What happens to some beings is unforgivable.
Thank you for sharing. Much love and compassion to anyone feeling separate; the most challenging experience in existence 🌎😘
Hope it doesn't take so long or last as feeling separate!
@@faloxv 😘
This is the most detailed yet clear explanation I have heard so far. 🙏
@@joajoajb that's interesting... I am far from being able to explain this as clearly as Rupert or other spiritual teachers I like, but all these itches as you put it are arising in consciousness but consciousness itself is not them. It is what experiences all of these itches, movements, etc. As a person, the more itches, false beliefs, etc. that we have, the more they obscure consciousness, which than cannot manifest as it would naturally. The manifestation, as already mentioned, is done through a limited form - our body-mind- so if this form is solidified into its conditioning and false beliefs, these will be what will manifest... until they are dissolved through, yes, maybe introspection, but introspection is done from a person or ego standpoint, consciousness doesn't need to introspect, it is not the psyche. Maybe someone will get what I mean and be able to clarify, I don't need to convince you, but I am interested in clarifying my understanding. Hopefully, others will give their input. 🙂
The only true answer is “I don’t know.” Nobody knows, they just have ideas.
@@joajoajb i forgot to ask you something: thinking people can wake up and then act from that consciousness, from that place of love, is that what you mean is childish thinking? Anyways, what is the clearest to me is that nothing Rupert says sounds dogmatic or religious to me in any way, on the contrary.
@@joajoajb you left a comment about five minutes ago that I read and now all of a sudden it disappeared, but I thought it was an incredible breakdown. Sounds like someone’s been reading Jung as I can hear hints of the embrace of the shadow self. I just wanted to say that you are spot on, to deny our shadow self is to deny 1/2 of existence, but a lot of people are not ready to hear this I’m afraid.
I tend to agree. Love is a concept based on our desire for our continuation of existence, and the immense fear of annihilation, another concept. Let me live, and I’ll let you live. Or love thy neighbor as thyself.@@joajoajb
This was an explanation as to why people hurt each other. Not an answer to “why is there evil.”
Evil is not a thing of itself. Evil is a label we give to behaviour we find horrifying or disgusting. Rupert is pointing out that these behaviours we label as evil are the result of ignorance of our true nature. So, the explanation of why people hurt each other is an example of this process.
What hurts, is labeled evil.
Could be out of love to. Tough love.@@ronishchaudhary
Exactly...and even on seperation he got a lil bit here n there...not questioning him but the answer was not at on the mark..
There is something more than just our plain ignorance - fully conscious denial of love. Cruel torturing innocent children or animals or any sentient being requires something way more deeper, darker than just plain ignorance. The so-called core of darkness, anti-life, unconditional hate. And It exists. Don't fool yourself. There is plenty of evidence in our daily experience of our world, that such dark fields of consciousness exists.
The Other is also Oneself & "The Trance of Unworthiness": I have great respect for Rupert, and/but as others have stated, his offerings come through his own particular lens of consciousness. Even he has admitted that no teaching is perfect or complete -- including his own. The one aspect that he has never addressed directly due to the kind of audience he attracts, is that if we take the basic abuser/victim duality, the emphasis is on how one treats others.
But equally pernicious and vicious is how this manifests within and towards oneself. I can say this with some "authority" - I've been dealing with decades long chronic anxiety/depression.
I live by "ahimsa" (non-violence) towards others, animals, insects and even plants. And yet, the inner violence (sense of at times almost being literally damned) towards myself persists. Tara Brach coined a phrase that can point to the essence of this: "the trance of unworthiness."
Where does that come from? In this sense Rupert and those teachers in the same orbit are correct - a sense of separation. However...
The "other" can also be oneself. And while very rocky, this does push me to consider that whatever drama and viciousness I still am seemingly addicted to, there is essentially NO difference between its manifestations outside of oneself (war, crime, and all the other horrors we keep recycling over "time") and what or how one treats/perceives oneself to be.
To take a classic example: Did the Nazis or the Jews attract each other? (One could use any number more current examples, paradoxically Israeli-Gaza), but let's go with the most used one:
--- Did the former manifest their own self-contempt by acting it out on the latter (kill off what one judges as others) and/or did the latter attract the former for the exact same perceptual distortion - except in reverse (be killed by one's self-judgement acted out through others)?
Otherwise put, what is projected and acted outward ultimately is simply a reflection of how one perceives and judges oneself to be. "As within, so without." Which Rupert and other teachings point to in their own way - the separate self thing.
These dynamics happen all over from the minute to the huge, and have been going on for eons. May we all at some point let go of all this inner and outer madness.
And everything I've written here is also imperfect and incomplete.
But it's my own stumbling journey in trying to wake up, somehow.
Because I completely relate to "your" struggle, here are a few conclusions I've reached. 1.) Rupert uses the terms finite minds continually. "He" makes constant references to the localization of consciousness. These are both false and quite impossible. 2.) There are no nazis, no jews. There is
no this one or that one. Impersonal "programs", literal programs, downloads run continually, and these comprise the sense of consciousness that arises with the belief in subject/object. This one false sense of life, this virtual reality is all of its programs. You are not addicted to any of it because this "you" does not exist. Nor does the apparent "other". You are, and can only be, Awareness, undefiled, pure, whole, indivisible Awareness. The one Consciousness begins to recognize that it is not the impersonal narrative that runs. That is merely false identification. Nothing is ever personal. Nothing!
Hopefully the comment will be received.
Only programs, downloads are running. These are impersonal.
I recall Ram Dass saying: "identify with NO Thing." A fascinating practice as the observer is being observed.
We would not be able to perceive light without darkness.
We keep duality in this world because we give it attention. Our mind gives power to suffering and pain because we make it appear in our consciousness. By wanting pleasure the opposite appears. When we wake up from this illusion there is no world, no duality, no pain. Only empty Awareness ❤ Bliss.
Thanks a lot❤❤❤
@@roxana6354❤, 🙏🏼what you give attention to grows, so attention for Love will make it grow. 😊
That’s not bliss. You are scared of emotions, happiness , sadness whatever. You want to be a cabbage ?. None of these so called gurus have found true happiness. They theorise, now they make a living out of it. There is no answer, no easy solution. Just be a good person.
@@peterneumann7145how can you say i am scared of emotions? You project your own feelings.! You know nothing about me. Im not a cabbage im a woman of 76 and had my experiences in life..
...and it made me a good person
@@peterneumann7145 < ""There is no answer, no easy solution. Just be a good person."" >
I'd say that's a very good answer, and a possible solution.
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Clear and beautiful insight Rupert - thank you 💜
Rupert explained that evil is the result of consciousness not recognizing itself, and interpreting other physical manifestations of the one consciousness as "other." However, he didn't explain WHY this apparent or illusory separateness exists.
I agree and his answers to problems are always filtered through his particular vision of reality. It reminds me of the old saying: to a man with a hammer everything looks like a nail. If the same question was asked to 100 gurus, I think we would hear many differing and possibly contradictory versions. It leaves me to postulate that ultimately only the questioner can answer his own questions; what other people say is just information to play with.
Does it?
Does infinite consciousness ask this question?
You also didn't ask this question in deep sleep.
The supposedly experiencer in the waking state asks it. Ask yourself who feels separate trace your I back.
Without self enquiry questions will be endless. First find out who you are then see if questions like that arise.
The Universe is the Mind of THAT that we call God.
An Infinite Mind.
That Mind is Consciousness.
So Consciousness apparently in the Dream it imagined that it fragmented itself into tiny particles (Big Bang)or atoms or starseeds, etc
To be able to experience each part of the "creation" that's a Dream in the Mind of THAT/God the I Am.
It imagined that it's a finite mind called ego.
Ego is a mental energy imaginary unexistent.
Only useful for navigating this movie-illusion that is a Dream.
The Infinite Mind apparently contracted itself into tiny particles, but with this it provoked to forgot its True Divine Nature.
Becoming unconscious and unaware of its origin.
He says elsewhere that separation and apparent evil is the price non dual awareness pays to experience anything at all. From the highest perspective that is a fair price. From a human perspective it can never make sense.
Rupert knows it all! I don’t even have to think for myself anymore.
Thank you Rupert❤️ Love your clear words!
You cannot have a dual, relative world of experience, where everything is 'good', anymore than you could have a world where everything is left, or everything is up, or everything is cold. Cold in relation to what? It is like wanting a one sided coin. The opposites define each other and are ultimately all conceptual anyway.
Please help me understand. To me it’s clear as humans we have the capacity to bring about a more heavenly or hellish reality albeit in flux. So not a static utopia but let’s say harmony. How do we square non dual awareness and value or action without falling into moral relativism or inertia/doubt? For example in Christianity, we are all children of God but through baptism people then believe to be one with Christ and “saved”.
I know I’m not being particularly clear but I’m feeling unwell. Thanks
@@rikkikeen1859 I'm just some guy and definitely do not have all the answers, but... my take on it is there is an absolute or transcendent realm, which takes on the appearance of an 'apparently' relative world, in order to have experiences. In the transcendent everything just 'is', there is no experience, no good or bad, birth or death, no separate individuals or any distinctions at all. So perhaps the goal is to be in the relative world, but not of it (ie, to realize it is play, but also that we are definitely subject to karma while here in a physical body). It is a paradox.
The vast majority of people feel separate, it’s the norm, it doesn’t make them evil. There have been many so-called enlightened gurus who have done ‘bad’ things, worse than most unenlightened people.
Enlightened beings are finite at the end of the day, they are just in touch with Infinite but wrt to only 1 facet of life and not all.
Evil is just a word to describe the absence of love,
we all allow the starving to die, we all lack love to varying degrees ! : )
Perfect explanation here. A Course in Miracles is also pure non-duality with the same explanation. It also supplies the psychology at play in projection of blame, guilt and attack.
Is that from that malevolence-promoting Marianne Williamson?
We have to focus on self. If anger arises, evil arises. If greed arises, evil arises. If delusions arises, evil arises.
I believe evil is a product of severe trauma (torture) which sometimes, I strongly stress sometimes, creates individuals who are fearful and hate themselves and others - sociopaths - also psychopaths. Both sociopaths and psychopaths have a sense of detachment. As Rupert said being detached is the root of evil - for some not all.
Psychopaths are born without the brain capacity for empathy, they don’t have to be traumatized . Sociopaths are a combination of trauma and other things.
Beautifully explained.
Exactly, it's the identification to an independent self is what's causing chaos.
But if you ask how to rectify it, then in that question realise that you want a solution because you are involved in that activity.
Just look in yourself, why do i do i inflict pain on others?
It is as he said. At the bottom is love.
Perfect explanation. Thank you Rupert.
Because that is how the world is. Accept that. Enjoy and be grateful with what you have even if it is the minimum. That is it. Sometimes we waste so many time trying to find "answers" because of fear to live with what there is. Forget about all that nonsense and practice enjoying at your fullest washing the dishes. Forget about others. Focus on your own peace.
That’s a lot of duality in your comment. There is no you, there are no others and by accepting the egoic understanding of the world, you will never understand the truth.
@@joyceleentvaar There is no duality or non duality. All is ONE. So there is no truth or no no truth. Anyway i like to wash the dishes. Well not always ;)
@@newcruiser true, in essence there isn't. Your dish washing makes me think of a zen koan (look up 'wash your bowl zen koan'). So yeah have fun washing the dishes! :)
There are a lot of teachers out there, and I find value in many of them. But Rupert in particular gives insights that never occured to me. Perfect example here... did not see that coming. Sahdguru is another one.
Yes, Rupert is very good, right up there. Francis Lucille, his teacher, is the absolute best of all that I have ever come across. Sadhguru gives himself an elevated title. I don't see how that's ego-less or non-dual. In fact, I've heard him say stuff that (in his particular of communication) borders on mocking the "all is one", direct path.
@@trial1884 Sadghuru has good knowledge but each human is his own best teacher. We are teachers and students at the same time. Always listen to your own intuition.
Nice quiet calm explanation. Doesnt explain at all why it must express itself with such depravity as adrenochrome farming now does it.
Is that the boundary at which god cannot be ultimately good? Why not stubbing your toe?
Rupert, agradeço muito à você por compartilhar seu incrível e maravilhoso conhecimento.💫💫💫
Rupert says no such thing as demonic forces? Does Rupert believe in what would appear to be souls or beings that exist in different apparent realities? If consciousness localized itself and resulted in ego, what’s to stop it from having created Lucifer for example? Why can there not be gods or powerful (relative to humans) beings with egos and whose reality is intertwined with ours as humans?
I understand it’s all a big game/illusion and everything traces back to Source, but how could he or anyone know how deep the game goes?
I wouldn’t say that he doesn’t consider those things, but he is speaking of the ultimate reality that all things are from one unified source. It may be confusing or complex in a comment section but I’ll try to break down what I’ve come to learn. The ignorance or forgetting that comes with being born in the material results in the idea of separateness but in ultimate reality there is no separation to this. Things like Lucifer are beings (who have been anthropomorphized and mythically expanded upon) that are impulses or forces in creation that are all part of the game as you said. Lucifer being the ecstatic-spiritualizing-electric force that is unbalanced or ungrounded in a sense. Like if someone is driven to know all of the wisdom of the ages but has no love or groundedness, the Luciferic forces are involved in that way, it is a spiritualizing force. Satan comes from the word meaning Opposer, and has been intertwined with the idea of Lucifer to create this one ultimate devil being in the good vs evil debate of religion. If God is Love and unity then you could see Satan as fragmentation and perceived seperatness. If God is One complete crystalline mirror as an object example, and it becomes fragmented into many many pieces, the Satanic force is the one that says we are separate and claws for further separation and complexity (away from simplicity) because it doesn’t know that the source of its being is Love so it is purely lost in the illusion of seperatness or can even be called a force that acts in further separation. Lucifer is the unbalanced spiritual force and Satan is like the opposer, also tied to Ahriman which would be like a being wishing to keep people and the idea of seperatness crystallized and stuck in the materialist mind with 0 understanding of the spiritual truth of God or unity or love. All of these Beings stem from the interplay of the story of creation and materialization because for the One to become the Many the spirit localizing itself into various archetypal natures and energies would create various perspectives and that don’t recognize the Whole of the pattern and thus act out of ignorance of Love or God or Unity. And just like for humans who are acting out of their animal instincts of survival which stems on vigilance and fear of the outside world for safety (instead of a regulated nervous system that can operate from Love) these forces that operate in separation will unfold in their own manner of interplay separation seeking more seperatness and fear claiming more fear and acting out of ignorance ultimately until God is recognized truly and illusion and judgment of it is lifted.
How could even the moist elaborate construct of consciousness be even vaguely separate from it?
@@13hills thanks I really enjoyed reading your response. Pretty much everything you said resonated with me.
I agree that as humans we’re going to tend to personify everything. But I still can’t help but wonder how far the illusion of self, or ego, goes. And then what role those other illusory selves may play in our shared reality.
@@fcz32 🙏🏼 I feel as if the illusion of ‘the dream’ could go on infinitely if you zoomed in or zoomed out but I also bet that if we saw the whole picture of it would be mind-blowing and yet beautiful like a firework show x♾️, as long as we are not lost in the illusion. To seek the depths of the illusion feels like a rabbit whole but to go down the rabbit whole to seek the non-illusory truth is an amazing awakening of the self that I think we will all one day know 🙏🏼
@@DrunkenBoatCaptainyour right, it’s not possible, only from the perspective of the finite mind do we create a belief of a separateness
We’re all in this world but not of this world. The amount of ofnish you feel is directly related to your alienation from your true self.😊
It can be so complex that being evil makes some people feel good. They might not feel love and happiness in doing an evil act but it is definitely a mechanism for treating something inside that actually needs to be treated by wholeness and compassion.
Love and Hate/Evil would be a duality. There is only love and a lack of Love (like any negative thing - it is only a lack of the one main thing, rather than there ever been two).
Love (Oneness) and ignorance of Love. 🙏🏽
Yes, as I said on my comment: evil ppl loves to be evil. It's love for them. They enjoy, have pleasure and are devoted to. "Love", right?
Not my world! ...
If you are dealing in absolutes then Rupert is 100% right. Truth is, only consciusness exists. Period. HOWEVER, as long as duality only is perceived (that would be 99% of us), within that duality one must recognize the emergence of a seemingly separate second force in opposition to the Self and a plethora of gods and evil spirits (Ramana Maharshi stated this clearly). Jesus, Buddha, and a long list of Saints have all faced a battle with an external force whose sole aim is to maintain you bound to the material world as the only reality. Christianity has called that force The Adversary (Satan). Its existence is very much necessary. It is very real as long as you live in duality and even though you have attained jnana moksha, liberation etc... while living with a physical body, you still have to deal with it. Just part of the Lila.
yes its no explicable , otherwise , the terrible things that appens in this world with mere sense of separation...may be, but its difficult to think...
I loved the explanation. Thank you ❤
This is absolutely true!!!! 💖💖💖💖✨
Waw, another brilliant one. Very impressive. I'd love to hear Rupert continue this by explaining the purpose of evil. Meaning why it is a necessary step in evolution
because that is how we learn in the 3d? evil is there (or we can use it) to make us better, to make us learn, advance and grow, to make us exercise our wisdom and discernment, and to help us make sure we actually learned the lesson. It is through the dance of contrasts that we actually transform and evolve, at least in this dimension. Its like learning to work through duality toward unity. You know light because you first were exposed to darkness or evil.
@@johanvoellner1849 Thanks Johan, that's great. I was reading recently how Hamas was abusing of women on Oct 7 in some of the most horrible ways, and while I agree with what you are saying, a part of me is still having a hard time understanding why such horror could be acceptable from the perspective of awareness. I understand this conceptually but I guess I still need to work on a better grasp on oneness :)
@@tonycohen2000 if you only saw horror of Hamas , you r a hypocrate.
@@BlueBird-cj6xh I did not intend to start a debate on Hamas and Gaza, I apologize for the misunderstanding. I am against all forms of suffering, from anyone. I was reading that one guy was raping a woman and slicing off her breast, and that hit a chord in me. It feels like a unique kind of evil which feels hard to understand. In any case, if you're watching this video I'm sure you want peace
@@tonycohen2000 Don`t believe all that you read ! : )
Its designed that way for Earth. Without the negative, there can't be the positive. Can't have hot without cold, can't have light without darkness, can't have soft without hard. Having negative stimulants in our world allows for heroes and positivity to exist. It's a way for us to learn. Afterall, it's all LOVE.
Oh G.O.D., deliver us from evil AND from good ! AKA duality
@@moonbirchgrove’deliver us from the duality’ is a great line…
EXACTLY 😊well said,, without contrast , nothing can be
Learn? Consciousness is complete. There is nothing to learn. It’s all just about experiencing.
@@plumeria66 there are different levels of consciousness. It is not complete untill one has been assimilated to the final one consciousness, the egoic consciousness must be overcome in the life's journey to discover that everything and everyone is one consciousness
Consiousness loves evil. In other way it wouldn't even put attention to it. Creating a victime creates evil. So evil is a story for consiousness to trigger itself for creating more love. In other words love triggers love to creates more love. Isn't it genius design?
The answer to this question about why there is evil in this world is simply that there are many things that are unknown and will forever remain unknown because we do not/cannot really understand the grand design of things using our limited minds. As most of you know, in the double-slit experiment, observation (that can be equated to trying to understand something) changes the very outcome of the experiment. The answer can come only from beyond the mind, but even those who have reached that state are unable to explain it with words. We have all been told that the infinite is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient. Therefore, the statement "the infinite cannot know the finite" and therefore has to "manifest itself" is just a construct of the mind and best avoided.
Evil is perhaps there just so that we can clearly see it as a huge obstacle and understand that until the time we can completely shun it, we cannot hope to find peace and bliss in life. The same with greed, anger, jealousy, etc.
What advaita vedanta, or any other path for that matter, is trying to tell us is very simple: simplify our lives (minimize our wants, take care care of our physical well-being, and also improve ourselves morally so that we do not have hatred, anger, envy, greed, jealousy, etc. [this is the basic foundation without which we cannot build anything higher because our cares and worries will prevent progress]), focus on the real and unreal (i.e., things we have control over and things that we cannot change [this will take care of over-ambition, failures in life, disease, suffering, and death]), and accept stoically everything that is happening to us as part of the grand design (that we do not understand and should not waste our time trying to understand). The above conscious practices will automatically calm our minds without any need to meditate. In fact, we will not be able to meditate effectively until and unless we have mastered the above practices. In essence, a simple and clean life will lead to discrimination about what is important in life and what is not; this will lead to peace and bliss right here and right now without having to wait for a rebirth (another construct of the mind). If grace is granted by the grand designer at this stage, we will also be able to help others so that they too can smoothen their journey through life.
Ignorance is the source of evil. _"Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."_
_“God created things which had free will. That means creatures which can go wrong or right. Some people think they can imagine a creature which was free but had no possibility of going wrong, but I can't. If a thing is free to be good it's also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible._
_Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata - of creatures that worked like machines -would hardly be worth creating._
_The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they've got to be free."_
~ *C.S. Lewis*
Let us face it. This is good quality culture speech, and it can only improve.
resonates with me and i ignore all the other voices, that uninentionally want to have impact on my energy. Trust your intuition and not the ego mind.
We are meant to feel separate, that's how we know and experience life. Without a feeling of separation we cannot know or experience anything.
*Discover and Understand the DIFFERENCE, between the human body and "LIFE The Real Self" !*
He could have just said he didn't know - woulda made a lot more sense than that.
A further question might be, what causes the belief that one is separate in the first place? That may be the independent source of evil itself.
Yes! And for what purpose? ...to experience everything?? Why would consciousness want to experience suffering? Which reminds me, Rupert and other gurus, have said that suffering is good.
Evil is nothing more than ignorance. And there is a good reason for this ignorance...
Why is there evil in the world? The answer is clear, once you know exactly why you're here - which is the best-kept secret in this entire world.
Elijah has returned, as prophesied, and testifies:
DESIRE. Your desires are honored, and everyone who comes to this evil (ignorant) world of LIMITATION did so through desire. I've published the complete explanation in book form. But it should be clear to anyone, mankind's desire for evil, which is indeed ignorance and nothing more. ("Father forgive them for they know not what they do.") And many of us can see that a man like Adolf Hitler or a man like Donald Trump are men who typify evil. And yet, look how many people yearn for such devils and the ignorance they spew upon the world! DESIRE. Desire Truth and you will get GOD and Reality, otherwise known as Heaven. But desire anything less and you get exactly what you've got, which is limitation: HELL.
Improper and abused regurgitated language.
Accroding to vedic philosophy humans have been bestowed with freewill What we want what are our goals how we go about to achieve them is totally induidualist I am the doer ,I am the enjoyer of the fruits of my action
God has no role in setting our goal We sow we reap All our enjoyments and suffering arise from our action
God has inunciated a path to reach the goal of life ,that is the ultimate truth This is dharma Onne who
follows that way realises the truth
I am like a mirror, if someone is evil to me, then I connect with that person in an evil way or worst yet, not at all. If someone is pleasant to me, then I am pleasant back, or better yet I go out of my way to give them love. That's my way of connecting and disconnecting. I found out this world can be an cruel place and many times you need to have the back bone to stand your ground. Or nobody or nothing will. ( This is my way of Jesus saving me )
To be a mirror, is to be a slave to the actions of those around you. How much more saved would you feel if you gave love to the person who gave evil to you? That is what Jesus did. 💛
@@michemiche1764 Been there, done that. Found out when dealing with evil, good guys finish last. In my 70 years here, I found out the smoke and mirror paradigm, mitigates enabling people with agendas that don't fit well with harmony. I wish for you , that who you perceive as your savior to bless and keep you free from evil. Thankyou for your fair point of view.
Energy, Frequency, and Vibration
How can finite mind gives an absolute answer ?
just like 1+1 gives 2 , an absolute finite answer .
From his perspective he explained how evil functions or its dynamics in action: Out of illusion consciousness thinks it is separate from itself and local instead of all prevasive. Hence it fights with itsefl without realizing it is doing so. But this does not explain why there is evil. If the infinite consciousness is love (hard for that to be so if there is no other to love), why in its infinite wisdom does it separate into local apparently independent individual units of consciousness in the first place, when doing so generates evil?
I like your question! I'm pondering if infinite consciousness is love but requires itself to seperate into local independent units of consciousness, which in turn generates conflict ie: good/bad, could it be for the evolution of humans/mankind? Both polarities could be seen as divine because without contrast nothing can be understood, thus serving your evolution and in turn the evolution of mankind.
All things exist in relationship - a cause and effect world - from a Quantum level to a macro cosmic level. IF we're NOT connected nothing could cause anything to exist. This "connectedness" in turn creates energy which exists in all things. Therefore each person's conscious/unconscious experience will ultimately uplift self, others and Universe. Through this unravelling of the many layers of human consciousness perceptions we begin to wake the spiritual (or such word that is true to you) body.
Metaphysical and evolutionary perspectives ultimately serve the same purpose.
Someone needs to ask him about the influence of negative forces from the lower non physical realms. I wonder what his awareness is of the worlds beyond the physical.
I would say not to try and understand this particular one beyond your own spiritual evolution. If I witness something violent, it is not going to come across to me as "love". At some stage in my process, I may be at peace with much more of what happens in the world I would term "evil". Your internal feelings can help protect you if you feel triggered in a situation in life. Honor that. What I am saying is don't pretend yourself beyond where you are (spiritually), or you will suffer needlessly in that as well.
Because we have the choice to have it that way
I respect Rupert highly , I wish I could asked him in his presence this question , for getting an answer, from him directly ; my question is Rupert do you know that you know everything about the whole existence or consciousness or God ?
Maybe Rupert would reply "I know that I know nothing"... maybe...
Rupert is like us, also has a finite mind. You may dig a hole on the beach but you will never be able to fit the ocean inside it, no matter how big it is. Likewise, the finite mind can never understand the infinite, a sub system can never grasp a meta system
This was answered in an Upanishad where disciple asked does an enlightened one know everything that's happening in the world seeing he's all pervading consciousness.
The guru answered he's knows what needs to be known the substance but not the details. For example who ever knows the gold in all the golden ornaments (bracelet ring) knows their substance is only gold. So it knows everything about the ornaments (namely gold) but it doesn't know or does he need to know the illusory details such as how big or dimensions of ring bracelet etc.
Some enlightened one may have siddis or powers that know the details as well but it's not necessary when you know the gold.
When all the ornaments are melted only gold remains when the ornaments or supposedly created only gold remains.
@@bam2385So true..😊❤😊
Become as a child, admit that you know nothing, and all is given to you. I know this to be true from first-hand experience...
Why is there evil in the world? The answer is clear, once you know exactly why you're here - which is the best-kept secret in this entire world. Elijah has returned, as prophesied, and testifies:
DESIRE. Your desires are honored, and everyone who comes to this evil (ignorant) world of LIMITATION did so through desire. I've published the complete explanation in book form. But it should be clear to anyone, mankind's desire for evil, which is ignorance and nothing more. ("Father forgive them for they know not what they do.") And many of us can see that a man like Adolf Hitler or a man like Donald Trump are men who typify evil. And yet, look how many people yearn for such devils and the ignorance they spew upon the world! DESIRE. Desire Truth and you will get GOD and Reality, otherwise known as Heaven. But desire anything less and you get exactly what you've got, which is limitation: HELL.
Of course this is is true.
.........if you have received a grace.....and you are very strong......to face...even a toothache......
One person in 10 millions.......
Krisnamurti said he had not met a single person....." Like" him
Most people listening practice self persuasion. ......To face very hard events.......
World of duality: Live vs. Evil.
Perfect ❤🙏🏻🫶🏻
thank you beloved
Creation has both positive & negative aspect. Without its negative side creation is incomplete. Everything you see has both sides. Hope it helps.
The Universe is a symphony of polarities. Humanity has the freedom of choice.
It can also be deduced that there is NO freedom of choice or Will.
If there is, then bad things should NOT happen to the person because he/she can choose bad things NOT to happen, instead good things to happen & will happen!
Do you consider yourself to be a good person? Of course, you do. Have you ever treated someone poorly? Of course, you have.
Thank you for another great video! I am just curious if Mr. Rupert's mind is aware that Mary and Jane is one of the street names of marihuana?
Perfect Thank you ,Thank you.
‘It’s all love’ 🙏❤️🙏
Mystics - practice - to experience - God directly - even in the heart - if possible.
As one experiences - more and more of the Divine within - the world becomes a dream.
Upon reflection - the world is made - by human thinking and actions - and because the hearts - are focussed on the worldly and matter - results are clear.
Hearts need to be linked - with the Highest - in all experiences. See/feel/become - those results.
Him and Him, alone.
Fare thee well.
service to self polarity and service to other self polarity , absorption and radiation , Choose wisely ...
Beautiful
Evil exists because of our Ignorance, we ignore the reality of our connectedness. Awareness is the thread that connects all beings. If we realized this we wouldn’t harm another as there are no others.
Why just person? It is everything animals, nature etc. Consciousness is everything.
Nature is a cruel and merciless world and we see it as beauty and full of wonder and light because you don't judge it and so it goes for humanity when you realise you are nature itself and do not judge you can see the beauty, wonder and light in humanity.
Interesting. I do believe in an evil force outside of ourselves. But I like the idea of the finite person vs infinite.
Evil are souls who lost the light and they live in deep suffering and are feeding with suffering.We see in the society very often.
For evil to exist, good must also exist, you cannot have one without the other. It will always be this way for eternity.
Bull crap!
Please help: Why does something 'living' oft times have to kill - causing the suffering and ending the 'life' of - something, to live? I hear people saying it's the circle of life, etc but I feel it doesn't fully answer the question.
The Bible answers the question
@@PaulOutdoors thanks Paul, I am brought up in the Christian tradition. Where particularly in the Bible or are you talking in the general sense about the Bible as a whole?
One of the dumpiest questions of many people especially from scholars is that " if there a god, why evil exists? ". They think that if there is a god, it should please its creation. They don't know that evil itself is a by-product of the Creator's mind. Directly and indirectly evil serves the creator's purpose. Using evil, the creator shows Its an absolute totalitarian power and authority over all its creation.
Respectful awareness, respectful learning, circulation of matter by some critters eating others?
I have read a proposition on a planet where all the nurturance we would need is Love.
Its just dipolar energy and matter...doing their unstable dipolar positive ans negative dance ...of creative destructive interactions, reactions, flips and reversals ....to create more temporary dipolar formations...
Which then all reverse at some point to hopefully get reused and recycled! ❤😂
This explanation is a common one…evil is the result of ignorance. Except what happens when it isn’t? Most people answering this question are ignorant of evil and thus aren’t giving a full picture of it. People do evil out of ignorance, yes. But that isn’t pure, conscious evil.
Anyone conscious will realise that Evil is a word for the absence of Love !
I disagree with this answer. It’s basically saying people do “evil” because of having ego-defined as *any* sense of individuality or separation-and if they just felt everyone else’s emotions exactly the way they feel their own, they wouldn’t do anything bad!
I think it can take highly sensitive and empathic people (like me) a long time to realize the fault in this. The reality is, you and I are not one being. We are two, with vast worlds inside each of us, with different needs and narratives and experiences. Feeling other people’s hurt is not what makes us good people or keeps our behavior “good.” It is an element of it, but caring whether you hurt other people (as most people do) and living your values around that is enough. Sometimes you will hurt other people while doing the right thing. Everyone has their own emotions and triggers, so you can treat other people as well as you can, but you aren’t responsible for others’ emotions. In good, healthy relationships and communities, individuals bring a lot of skill and care and energy to bear on understanding and managing their own feelings, so then they can lean on each other for extra support when they need it. Not everyone has the same goals or values and is going to be a “team player” with you, and those relationships need to be dissolved or become less close to make room for more aligned connections.
A better lens, I think, is to remember we are animals, and we are of the natural world, which can be brutal. It is normal for animals to kill each other, or starve, or freeze to death, but also to form cooperative families and societies. We would like to live in a society where those “bad” things are not normal or typical, so we try to create “man-made” structures (our various social institutions and customary forms of connection and care) that accomplish that, just as we build a house and try to protect it from the rain, rot, mold, rodents, insects (I own a house, in the forest, and one small hole or unnoticed bit of deterioration can lead to water damage, or rats peeing and pooping in the walls; the exterior paint does just enough to protect the siding from the elements, which does just enough to protect the wall underneath). The point is, nature trying to tear my house down while I try to keep it erect is not evil or unnatural. Nor is my building and maintaining a house unnatural. The world is, as a baseline, chaotic and harmful (but arguably beautiful in spite of that), and we try to bring comfort and safety and function and flow to a life lived together with other people-but not a billion other people, just the people who want to bring the same sort of feeling and circumstances into the world as us.
Why is there evil in the world? The answer is clear, once you know exactly why you're here - which is the best-kept secret in this entire world. Elijah has returned, as prophesied, and testifies: DESIRE. Your desires are honored, and everyone who comes to this evil (ignorant) world of LIMITATION did so through desire. I've published the complete explanation in book form. But it should be clear to anyone, mankind's desire for evil, which is ignorance and nothing more. ("Father forgive them for they know not what they do.") And many of us can see that a man like Adolf Hitler or a man like Donald Trump are men who typify evil. And yet, look how many people yearn for such devils and the ignorance they spew upon the world! DESIRE. Desire Truth and you will get GOD and Reality, otherwise known as Heaven. But desire anything less and you get exactly what you've got, which is limitation: HELL.
_“God created things which had free will. That means creatures which can go wrong or right. Some people think they can imagine a creature which was free but had no possibility of going wrong, but I can't. If a thing is free to be good it's also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible._
_Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata - of creatures that worked like machines -would hardly be worth creating._
_The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they've got to be free."_
~ *C.S. Lewis*
Sorry, I agree with some of what you said, but we are certainly not animals. We are subject to different Laws than that of the animal kingdom.
The Golden Rule is a prime example of this and when our behaviour is not aligned to this Natural Law we experience negative consequences (immediate or later). This Law is also called karma, and it is in operation at all times and is immutable. Man made laws are man made and as such are changed depending on whims. Natural Law(s) cannot be changed. We either become aware of them and align our behaviour to suit or we suffer the consequences individually and collectively.
@@onebody9598 I almost agree with everything, you wrote, but it's NOT a "Natural Law", but it's The Creator's Law of Love, Matthew 7,12, as the Law of Karma is also a Law made by The Creator.
Mathew 7,12 is NOT a "golden rule" (I know, people call it that, and that's properly why, you referred to it that way), because it actually states in the last part of that word of Jesus: "...for this is THE LAW." - The Creator's/God's Law, which every sincere seeker of God's truth should strive to eventually master - because striving to master this moral ideal is the same as seeking God's truth!
But well done, understanding the truth, as it's supposed to be understood! I respect that! 😎👍
Another more easily understandable way of expressing Matthew 7,12, is as follows:
"You shall not do unto others, as you would not, that others should do unto you.
You shall do unto others, as you would, that others should do unto you." (Jesus)
@@practice-righteousness thank you so much for your reply. Yes, I think the wording has caused some confusion between us. Natural Laws are Divine (Spiritual) Laws and our behaviour is governed by them. The law of Love as you have called the 'Golden Rule' as it is also known as i.e, do unto others, etc, is the summary (whole) of Natural/Divine Law(s) There are consequences for not aligning our behaviour with this, and they are felt individually and collectively. And so we try by the Grace of God ❤️🙏 Respect to you too 🙂and peace be with you 🙂👍❤️🙏x
Asking the question “If God Exists, Why is there evil in the world ?”…… just doesn’t make any sense. Because, “If you are not in awe, you are not paying close enough attention.” So, the question becomes, Why are you not paying close enough attention to find out if you experience awe? And if awe arises in your experience, then the question“If God Exists, Why is there evil in the world ?” Falls away into the abyss of questions that need answers and dissipates into thin air….as it dawns on us that the question is meaningless?
Once everything is understood, there will be no worries.
Whatever you don't understand, trouble will arise.
Worry is a danger and an obstacle in our lives.
Worry will produce wrong thinking, wrong ideas, wrong views and expressions, which in turn will lead us (body, mouth, and mind) to make wrong behaviors.
These deviant educations will bring misfortune in your life.
Even if you go down to the lower three lower realms, you still don’t know why you go down.
Without knowing the truth, one remains ignorant.
After understanding the truth, our wisdom will be revealed.
The Creator Is Within
The one philosophical, logical issue I see here is as follows:
The "almighty" infinite decides to loose itself in its creation thus becoming finite through an act of Will.
This act of Will creates the experience of suffering.
Therefore it's not an unlucky or unwanted experience but rather something that is willed into existence.
Sounds kinda bad right?
But remember, the only thing suffering is the infinite itself through "your" localized eyes.
There is no self, never was.
Labeling this process of something accidental or "the infinite can't know itself directly" is speaking too low of it as it knows everything and has, as the " - " suggest never truly forgotten nor never not known.
Very well put, it is this fragmented, isolated mind that becomes fear driven and leads to the looking out for number one mind set, at any cost.
Spiritual practice reconnects us with what we truly are, reaching a point where it is impossible to inflict harm on another human being or any living creature. This is the fall from grace spoken of in the Christian Bible, from God consciousness to the ego mind (the false self).
When more than one person engages in an act of good or bad, it’s effects are magnified, people caught up in crowd violence, often report doing things they normally would never do. The same is true for prayer, as the Bible says, if two or more are gathered in my name, I’am there with them. The materialistic world has driven people to engage more with the ego mind, becoming more narcissistic and worse, it is one of the reasons why the world is the way it is. We are in deep trouble, unless there is a major shift in consciousness, it all starts with the mind.
*Do you realize the word Spirit originally meant "A Full Description" or "Record of anything" ???*
*For example : "Is it in the Spirit of the game ???"*
*The Definition of the word Spirit has changed through the course of history...*
Spirit is the non physical part of a person, which is the seat of emotions and character, the soul.
Or as in your example, the prevailing mood or attitude of a person or group of people, or period of time.
As in, I hope the team will build on this spirit of confidence.
@@pantherzzz111 *The human spirit is EVIL as the human body Contains DOUBLE LOGIC in its GENOME, which adversely affects ALL human functions, including Thought and Reason, as well as causing Suffering and DEATH !*
*But the Spirit of "LIFE The Real Self" is Holy, as "LIFE The Real Self" is an Offspring, and Child of "The LIGHT",..*
*"The LIFE of GOD"... Many CONFUSE "LIFE The Real Self" with the Spirit, but the Spirit is just "A Full Description, and Record" of "LIFE The Real Self" !*
@@pantherzzz111 *The SOUL is NOT "LIFE The Real Self"... Next to my name is a 100 % Accurate miniature drawing of The SOUL...*
*HOW do I know this ??? Because I went to "The Marriage Supper of The Lamb", and now I, "LIFE The Real Self" NOT the human body, resides in The HOUSE of GOD !*
Appreciate the original comment. So do you have a comparative religious take on salvation from said Fall? Without a specific or the “right” discipline the modern mind just fragments.
Jesus said that those who suffers are blessed. I learnt the deep meaning of this statement after a very serious accident that my little daughter had just exactly when we ha leaved our Country of birth in search for freedom. If it were not for that immense suffering, due to my highly materialistic Marxist former education I would never redirected the focus of my search of freedom to spirituality
Why don't you just say:
"I don't know" Rupert. That is the best and honest answer. I am by no means sold on Evolutionary theory but (sadly) that probably gives us our best explanation of suffering both man-made and natural.
Because we are the world...and we've let ourselves fall away from grace for a long time, we become evil, the world becomes us. Fix ourselves, fix the world...
If no one sees a lion eating a wild beast alive does it it not happen. Suffering exists outside of anyone's consciousness. Out attempts and failures at dealing with this are a result not a cause
Satan was so annoyed to hear this , just look at the curtains moving behind Rupert 😁
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we,human, want to survive. So we define the things that hurt us as bad, the things that help us to live as good. However, god doesn’t need to worry about living or death, everything to it is just the shifting of energy. Also, if there’s a god, it must be beyond time and space, so it sees past, present and future at same time.
So to my opinion, god doesn’t recognize or need to recognize good or bad. Everything is just being.
We create our dreams. Just because I have nightmares, it doesn’t mean I don’t exist.
"Even the source of evil is love", it's important to understand that this evil (due to the illusion of separation) is not real, it's an illusion, a dream of the primordial Consciousness, otherwise it makes no sense.
Goodness does not exist without badness
Brains abstract the physical world into something our brains can simply understand. The same goes for infinity. Once you understand infinity, you'll have an idea of the rules, how it works, how to do bijections between different sets, etc. You build a mental model of infinity, just like you build a mental model of a first or a Chair, or Nicaragua, or happiness, or your mother. Beautiful minds build a home, family, love, happiness etc and unable to comprehend them in connection with finite mind and infinite mind. What is forever is the fundamemtal if you could unferstand.
RS did v well there imho until the very end when he said the source of evil is love. This is the problem w the Advaita dogma that the Universe is ultimately God - goodness. Clearly the cosmology needs to shift to the Noumenal being the source of both good and evil, just as it is the source of our ability to analyse our experience physically or mentally. The Fabric of Reality is itself devoid of characteristics as it is the ground of characterisation. Thus, it is neither good nor evil nor physical nor ideational except perhaps as and when we make it so.
Duality is needed to maintain the natural BALANCE.
What is the value of "good", if there's no evil? Good and evil are two sides of the same coin.
It just hurts
Sometimes it’s repulsive
Sometimes it’s completely hopeless and agonizing
The situations that humanity faces blow me away, the executions, the violations
I’ve seen it’s purpose BUT DAMN DOES IT FUCKING HURT
hurt, sometimes* :>
The "problem" is that the finite mind (ego) is unconscious and unaware of what it wants to experience, that's why it chooses to have "bad" things...
It must hurt for the consciousness to perceive itself in this dimension, as well as love must be felt
When consciousness appears to manifest itself from a localised point, it must have total freedom within that manifestation otherwise there would be no point to it. Freedom is ‘acting’ between extremes of good and evil.
But if... Everything that IS is a manifestation of Consciousness, only Consciousness exists, then evil is also a manifestation of it...?
There is no evil in the Singularity. All evil is a product of a corruption of the human heart. There is only One God of Infinite Truth, Light and Goodness. Just as darkness is an absence of Light, evil is an absence of Goodness.
Who or what corrupted the heart and for what reason?
@LifesInsight Thank you 🙏
yes it IS SO
Why does the feeling of separation and the potential desire to harm the apparent Other arise out of an Infinite Loving Consciousness. Is there something in the "forgetting" that occurs when the One becomes form, becomes "human" where something goes awry? Why is it that this illusory belief in being separate, leads some souls to do so much harm to the apparent Other?!
One reason might be that when you feel separate and you identify with the form, you see others as threats and you feel like you need to protect yourself? Depending on how strong your sense of separation is, you may have a tendency to be defensive or to "attack and ask questions later" as we sometimes put it. Also, I think it is simply the nature of consciousness to want to experience/manifest (no reason per se, just its nature) and taking a form like humans was the only way to do that but at first, as Rupert said in the past, to forget it's true nature was the sacrifice it had to make... until our body-mind evolves enough to allow us (consciousness) to remember who we truly are, in the same way it evolved on any other level, I guess... I would love to hear others thoughts about this 🙏
@priscillabeauchemin4752 My queries are mostly rhetorical I suppose... I thought it would be interesting to reach out to the community... I'm still not exactly clear on how, from a source of infinite, loving, consciousness, there arises such as apparent spectrum of behavioral vibrations?! We know how Christianity explains this, how Bhuddism does... All doctrine aside, It just feels like some darkness more than ignorance enters the process during the transition/ the forgetting. from "I Am'' to "Here I am, it's me, King Lear!" For some, this lack of Light leads to unspeakable acts which have been visited upon humanity since we arose out of the One. Ill keep up with the self enquiry!! Between stumbling upon Rupert and through him, Ramana Maharshi, I feel as though after a lifetime of spiritual questing, I have finally found my way, and it's all right here! Blessings!
Throughout the evolution of the kingdoms of mineral, plant, animal, human, it has been an evolution of consciousness towards the Light, towards life, and towards survival. To survive in a dangerous world that has been evolving through seperatness is to react in fight or flight and make judgment calls based on survival. Even though it may seem like humans are passed this survival-based thinking or fear-of-survival way of being, many people being very identified with their temporal personal are acting rather subconsciously out of fear of the unknown and trying to keep their conscious mind in a comfort zone of sorts. There may be a ‘switch’ that happens where a person stops operating primarily from their lower centers and rises into the evolution of living from the heart-center and is operating based on love and selflessness where they are no longer worried of the fear of death because they recognize their eternal nature as their true self. But the desire to harm another or anything of that sort all stems from forgetting the eternal picture or the divinity of it all including themselves, and act out of animalistic dog-eat-dog means for survival or domination. We see this in war, if everyone would lay their weapons down then war would be over, but everyone is too afraid and non-trusting because if they show their vulnerability and lay down their defenses then they fear extinction and the cycle driven by fear, separation, and hate continues.
It may sound strange or silly to zoom that far out and see it from that perspective but imagine INFINITY becoming ONE, then splitting like a cell into TWO, masculine and feminine counterpart, then the feminine energy being the negative charge (🚹+ 🔋 -🚺) (like a proton + and an electron - within an atom) becoming the gross matter of creation and FORM (delving into the darkness of unconsciousness) and the divine Masculine being the FORMLESS infinite that now seems distant and separate from us, the form who strives through the mud on its way back. Something like the story of Adam and Eve and the fall, coming full circle with the kingdom of heaven coming to earth, a return to a lost Eden. Or the story of the prodigal son where one leaves home becomes the lowest of the low then returns home and is welcomed fully with no judgment. The infinite consciousness ‘divided’ into descended levels of vibration to become form to know itself and rediscover itself, descending into darkness and ascending back to consciousness. Just like the hero’s journey, or Carl Jung’s teaching of bringing awareness to make the unconscious mind conscious and operating from a place of non-fractured wholeness. In the one MIND, we are like conscious mind rediscovering and bringing awareness back to the places where we have become unconscious, and all of that is THE UNKNOWN to us, the sub-perceptible things that we are unsure about as a society, unifying in Love back to wholeness again in its own evolutionary co-operative way. Hope this helps. Apologies for rabbit holing 🐇
Continued: in very layman’s terms for imagery-sake, essentially that the infinite stillness becomes energy of the Great Spirit, which becomes the Great Father and Great Mother, two polarities of subtle energy and gross matter, and went from one consciousness to an APPARENT spectrum, multidimensional. The seed into the dark soil, and now the entire unfolding of dimensions back to the fullness of the One as a 🌹 occurs through space and time and back towards its realization of Self and Wholeness again, through the balancing and unification of the polarized split forces of Masculine and Feminine, Spirit and Matter, Love and Wisdom through action, Heart and Mind through these bodies. This is all very spit-fiery language that is rather poor examples of the truly indescribable from a human perspective, from a limited mind, from a conceptual and mammalian standpoint that knows life through father and mother connection. The evolution of consciousness is the cleaning of the mirror within to recognize the pure light of awareness shining back but whatever helps understanding may be useful, however the key 🔑 is surrendering the mind, senses, and all concepts to the infinite and returning to the place of Being. Touching the ocean of consciousness that we are when the waves settle.
All of this being said, it SEEMS like an upward striving but I think at a certain point in the realization of all of this, one comes to realize that all of these seemingly separate efforts are truly the natural unfolding and magnetic pull of GRACE, when one truly comes to experientially know that there is no separation. And my final words on this, is that even though of all these things I’m saying are conceptualizing, and therefore seemingly things that happened someplace sometime, all of reality is still light in motion like a pendulum, various frequency of vibration, becoming appearances. Though these things sound like I’m speaking of OTHERWORLDLY things or OTHERNESS, it is all a part of the story of creation and it is all within each of us, we are all ALL of it, it is not separate or external, it comes from the inside projected out.
I suggest all of Rupert’s videos, also look up The Alchemist (Sarah Elkhady), David R. Hawkins 📚 and Mooji’s teachings as well. Feel free to comment back to me if you wish. Peace ✌🏼😊
I am afraid to have to tell you but duality is how it was meant to be. This is the game guys, you selected to live in duality before incarnation, for experience only to see if you're self love will awaken you to this insane impossibility and you can choose again. This world is a creation, a virtually but not reality. Reality is only singularity where we dwell always and forever never leaving. Only in dreams is it possible to have duality. We are all holy children in virtual experience only. Everyone is safe always.
Excellent explanation ❤ However, how do you account for evolution? ‘natural selection’, stars being destroyed so that new elements are created, etc. A lot of ‘hurt’ happens in the process. What’s the end goal of the evolution? Who knows?
If we still want aggregate and mind, like good mind. Good mind will bring us up.
In good mind, there is known mind and unknown mind.
Known mind watch unknown mind.
Know mind will bring our perception to the Nibbana.
Unknown mind will cycle and reel in reel, bringing our perception in the cycle.
Ref: Buddha
Ref: Sanga
If we are infinite consciousness and there is no separate self nor a doer then is infinate consciousness performing the evil and destroying the earth etc? Rupert says only infinate consciousness exists and that it controls all the earth and is all there is and that the separate self takes credit as a thought after the act. I just can't get my head around that. Why does the love and peace of the infinate manifest like that if it's the controller of everything and why even blame the ego or separate self.
So we have a singularity splitting into a dualistic manifest reality in order to create a feedback loop, the term good and evil may as well be hot and cold at the level of the singularity if we remove our humanistic concepts of morality, there seems to be an incompatibility of states of the singularity vs it’s dualistic expression, but such cannot comprehend itself otherwise, without knowing what it is not, this reconciles the disparity. Eventually Anna comes to realise that hurting Alice hurts Anna and in effect this shows Anna who she really is. The only possible purpose of this, is if the singularity is an evolving intelligence that’s is not in a static state, implying it’s active. Or something is searching to know itself and so are all its fragmentations lost in the illusionary construct of space and time. It’s quite fascinating what he’s said really, if you think of death and our finite life’s and apply the know what it’s not theorem, being reductive, can give an interesting conclusion. Is this what the speaker means ?
This question was never really answered by any individual ever in existence and I didn't expect Rupert to succeed either.
There is no way no how that infinite intelligence would build a construct that enables itself to distance knowing from form. Infinite yet limited seems highly contradicting.
"Oh you guys are messing one another up down there? Oh, I had no idea... I am infinite and cannot experience the finite." How incredibly convenient...
Also directedly contradicts all the stories about how you choose your parents, how you choose to be here, how you choose to suffer. And all that nonsense that clearly ties everything together as a thought out plan from start to finish, suffering and all.
Not to mention all the stories from NDE experiencers...
Why can't we just accept that we don't know? No God would allow a world like this, in which you are born without (a record of) consent and then suffer until the end of life.
And then when you die.... SURPRISE! IT was all a dream, it was all a lesson.
No realization, reveal, enlightment or anything will ever balance that out for me. Ever.
This is simply unforgivable. What happens to some beings is unforgivable.