What is Enlightenment? ~ Rupert Spira
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- Опубліковано 31 сер 2016
- www.scienceandnonduality.com
Rupert Spira compares the individual mind/body to the Earth which
can turn away from the Sun's light.
This interview is part of Science and Nonduality Anthology vol.6. To watch the whole interview, please visit www.scienceandnonduality.com/...
It is not Rupert who speaks here. It is our unfathomable reality which reveals Its indentity with compassion for all beings. I am out of words to express my gratitude.
@Zafar Khan Not even one
There is no KIRINI5 writing here either
Pretty sure it’s Rupert speaking 😂
Briliant - the best "teachings" are always the simplest. Thank you.
You are an extraordinary teacher and explainer Rupert. Thanks for making it possible to understand what few others can communicate
Thats it Rupert! You cant say it better than this. Dont speak anymore, just repost this video every day 😄
Perfect! As always... Words of wisdom. So clear! Thanks again, Rupert!!!
This Understanding is Itself an expression of Pure Consciousness for our seemingly illusory mind...Ten thousand Thanks for posting...With Loving indifference...I Am !!!
After Enlightment: "LIFE MADE A VERY BEAUTIFUL MUSIC , THE FREEDOM YOU FEEL CAN'T BE DESCRIBE BY THE WORDS"... 🥰
Thank goodness for concessions!!! 🤗
I absoluetly l 💜 and adore you, Mr. Rupert Spira. Your being RADIATES The Spirit of Truth! Thank you for year service, Dear One! 💫💫🙇♀️🙇♀️💖💖🌹🌹🦄🦄
The light at the end of the tunnel is not an illusion. The tunnel is
That which comes and go is not reality but the unreal. Silent awareness is all there is.
@Spiritdove Speaking for myself, maybe, but when I leave such comments I often have the impression that what I write is just as much for me as it is for other. I think that such verbalizing helps anchor our realizations and insights within ourselves. Ego may slip in at times, yes, but are you so sure that your statement is not an expression of your own ego-mind? A reaction, a form of anger or resentment? Maybe we need to ask the author what his intentions were or was. Was he coming from innocence or was he just trying to be clever. In any case no harm done (other than your feeling of annoyance :))
@Spiritdove Is that a bad thing?
@@Noawarenes If stillness and awareness is all there is than you would not actually be. You're missing a part.
@@ananda224 I'm missing a lot. I'm not enlightened. But I know what the sages say. Prakriti is at play
I love his videos. there is a clear understanding that he conveys, hes so compassionate too. It's like what jung said too about belief. You have no belief about that witch you know. And rupert knows you can see it about him. I've meditated. I can really say now I've tuned a corner since. What seems to be coming my way was always in front of me and magic magnificent and loving on a whole different level hes right you cant explain that witch words can not fathom. Thanks Rupert.
Beautiful, thank you!
Wisdom is nourishing!
Beautiful....very clear and expressed. Thank you. Sylvie
wonderful teachings !!!!!
We all made this world in space-time, and it is beautiful.
🙏Divinely spoken💖Thank You🌻
Listen to him with an open heart/mind and you will 'get it'.
i still no get, can you help me
what is it you are writing you get?
wow..loved this thanks x
His words while true, are also dry as dust, like a professor endlessly harping on the same point...awareness. Even when he speaks of beauty, it's so incredibly academic and measured.
hello . enlightenment is really common sense , thats why `no one` in the main stream understands impersonal experience .
Thanks. Very deep. I like the reference to that which cannot be named.
"The primary illusion is personal consciousness, the finite mind"
As I was listening to this, the question, "Why this?" came to mind.
So great🎉 thank you
Such clear and precise explaination. Great teacher.
A good intellectual representation
Thank you.
Beautiful 🙏
Only way to be found,is to get lost first.Realisation is when you realise you already are realised.
Bahut. Bahut. Gretitude. Dhanyabad. Dhanyabad. Thanks.
Enlightenment is the Bummer of Reality.
Scarakus LOL every time :D
Absolutely loved this video. Thank you so much for this valuable information. Lots of love from an Australian 🇦🇺❤
😢 of love
Beautifully explained .. Loved the portal analogy
Thank you _/\_
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"There is no enlightenment. It is an idea that is promoted by those who have no experience beyond the self. The self can never be enlightened, and beyond the self is consciousness, which is already whole and therefore cannot become anything, including enlightened. At best, enlightenment is an ideal or a metaphor." - Vic Shayne, author, 13 Pillars of Consciousness
After hearing the last bit I truly wonder what he is talking about in the apparently endless stream of his videos...
Please choose Spanish subtitles 🙏😔💜
Is it relevant to say that everybody knows at some level or it is a remembrance or recognition? I have to say that there is nothing in eternity which can be recognized as it is always happening for the first "time."
There should be no comments here. Including this one
I love rupert...anyone think he looks like a slightly older ryan giggs?
Haha now you mention it .. he does a bit!
Ryan Giggs panicked.He should be managing Real Madrid.He has an insight in what players to sign.
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I'm asking, not answering. Surely it's the full acceptance and preparedness for individual mortality, before it actually happens? In other words die before you die?
I used to believe this but I don't anymore. I believe enlightenment is the evolution of concouseness. It takes a very long time to become enlightened.
MMMMMMMM.
Christed into heart awareness, then I comes back.
Can anyone help me out with some of my questions?
How does falling 'out of time' arise by following awareness and/or love/happiness? What does eternity 'feel' like or what's a good analogy of eternity's perspective to dissolve the separate self's view in trying to understand it?
I can also use some shepherding around how he uses the really deep phrase 'all there is, is reality'. What aspects of the 'I' must dissolve to lead this teaching so directly into silence?
Much appreciated, and a wonderfully articulate teacher.
Your awareness is eternal unchanging, it is stillness. The feelings of love and happiness are emanations of the state of peace, which is eternally changing to keep this sense of existence in balance. It is the in and out breaths, the day, and night, the cycles of the seasons. You at your root is unchanging awareness that is eternally experiencing and observing the states of it's existence, or peace. If you delve deeply to the root of this than you will come into a state that is eternal beyond time, it's a state of eternal peace. It lies underneath all the emanations and thoughts that we create to describe these experiences. You can only reach it by either remembering or surrendering. If you can even for a moment touch this place beyond time you will remember and realize what you truly are.
Eternity isn't a good word to describe this space as it gives a sense of time. There is no time in this space. A better word is Eternal. Being Eternal feels like wholeness or being completed. There are no wants, needs or attachments, you are content and at peace.
All there is is our existence which we observe and experience as reality. You don't have to dissolve the " I " as the part of you you think is you is only a small fragment of your whole. You only need to accept that part of you for all its flaw and faults, but also not attaching yourself to any of it as it is impermanence and can change. You are like a big reel of never-ending film, if you only attach yourself or look at one picture you'll miss the other beautiful pictures on that strip that tells more of the story. We need to be able to learn to be human before we can learn to be something greater.
As we go through this life we appear to get older but our awareness remains exactly the same and it was the same before this life and will be eternally after. When we appear to die our awareness goes on without interruption. If we could see our Universe from outside of it we would see nothing because it only exists in the imagination of our awareness. We are in the exact same point that we have eternally existed having never moved or experienced anything except in our imagination.
I think practicing observing ourselves as though we are an impartial observer who loves all equally is also a good path to finding the true nature of our reality. I think trying to observe the observer might also give some insight. Not that I would consider myself enlightened. ✌💞
This is pretty amazing, starts out at a fairly high level, with some pretty deep dives later on. Amazing analogy.
There is a new teacher called rali on a channel called naked reality that I highly recommend for those that like rupert or seek enlightenment. He is an intellectual sounding version of osho. Whom I also recommend.
I really want to like Rupert, but his philosophy just blows my mind...
Enlightenment is simply waking up from a deep sleep.........🕉
the pyschophysical contraction that gives rise to the impression in self as an interior entity is way too intense to unravel with talk alone - all this talk is possible while the physical contraction remains fundentally intact - more required than talk alone - otherwise unconscious incompetence can reign supreme
"When you try to understand everything, you will not understand anything. The best way is to understand yourself, and then you will understand everything."
- Shunryu Suzuki
The age of enlightenment means a full immersion of love into society. One person or a small group of people that become enlightened will not do the trick, for they are self-views of love that feel good. These awakenings are a better version of ego consciousness with less judgment and more acceptance, but they are still of self and mind. They are temporary structures of protection as I will explain toward the end of this comment.
Humans tend to believe that enlightenment to the human species is linked to the ability of thinking or concentrating on love, this does become a new version of human love that is a bit better. But does it match the magnificent universal energy of love that surrounds the planet? No, it does not.
How do we transfer down that enormous universal energy of love that surrounds our planet? Well, it certainly will not happen through the human concepts of love, because they remain too fragmented into many concepts of being - Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Bahá'í Faith, Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism, Sikhism, etc. etc. The transfer to a single higher awareness will occur through technology and science that transforms human thought, simply because technology and science are concrete and verifiable compared to the human thoughts of love.
Example of technology raising awareness: Galileo’s telescope brought more human advancement than any thought man could produce. The technology of the telescope completely changed our views of God, nature, and humans. It eventually raised everyone’s awareness level and to this day is still raising our awareness level. The technology of solar power will have the same effect on mankind, more so than any human thought. Solar technology itself will teach humans the proper course to take, just as the telescope is teaching us proper ways to view nature. Technology and science is our best teacher.
Why is technology and science our best teacher? Because they mirror the human Soul. Our inner souls are science oriented creatures who are also balanced with one type of love - and it is not human love. It loves humans, but it is not human. I call it Authentic Compassion and is the Universal fabric hidden behind everything. This fabric is of science and compassion. Our Souls have applied this fabric and have already built a magnificent technical world for us to enjoy. Many near death experiences have explained a very advanced civilization where technology and nature have blended together. Technology holds the key to a massive awakening - not the human physical thoughts of love separated from the fabric behind the universe.
Humans will stop thinking in terms of self-love and we will build compassion right into the systems we live. Love is no longer a mere thought; it is an action of the social structure we have built. We will build compassion right into our lifestyle. Our future is based on The Venus Project and even that is rudiment to where humans are headed. Technology and automation will free human thought more so than any thought system humans have invented or will invent. And it just so happens that it mirrors the true state of the human soul - science based thought balanced with the highest version of compassion - where love is not a thought but an energy of being … and an automatic energy no less.
Humans think we can transfer a massive wave of love to Earth through thought. Well, very soon humans will learn that we can build a worldwide stage of love with technology. This would mean our awareness level is linked to technology, and not to our self-views of love. Love becomes externalized outside the human thought system, and the physical systems we build will also reflect back a new version of love that is a worldwide view and replaces the self-view.
One does not have to think about enlightenment in the future, you are living an enlightened world brought to you by technology, not thought. We will get to experience a world force of love and the self-view of love is no longer necessary.
Rupert is experiencing a self-view of love that protects him from the outer environment, so now he has some form of sanity that can make sense of the outer world. His Soul is providing him this outlook as a temporary stage to fend off the insanity he was experiencing as do we all. This version of human enlightenment will not be necessary in the future.
If one were to describe the age of enlightenment as a full immersion of love into society. One would have to agree there is no money, there are no wars, there are no politics, no human slavery, no mindless jobs, and there are no divisions like nations in the new age. Only technology can do all that, which transposes compassion to be the highest form of technology. Technology makes compassion concrete and not just a mere idea of the mind.
A social structure like the Venus Project will supply human enlightenment because it frees man from the disorder in the environment.
May I be very clear. The human Soul will no longer need to grant these bubbles of enlightenment as a protection system from the outside world of disorder, because technology cured the disorder. Our science-based souls are emerging and will change the surface of Earth with technology that allows everyone to experience the highest version of human love. The highest version of human love is obviously a world of love.
A loving society is something humans will build once we learn that we actually do love each other and Earth. Something that those bubbles of temporary enlightenment did teach us. Humans will build the best version of human love, but guess what, even the age of enlightenment is temporary. There are many levels beyond the best version of human love.
That's implying that Enlightenment isnt the realisation/reawakening of oneness.
There is no seperation, the singularity is all there is, God illuminating the scene.
Omniscience applies, all is already known.
Illuminated, while appearing absolutely amazing as part of co-creation, technology is realised as contrived, as are human relations outside of pure awareness they are survival games.
Want a real tip? Stop believing you have anything of value to say. This is meaningless dribble- word horseshit salad. Even if it did make sense- it is utterly useless.
@@drygordspellweaver8761 The age of enlightenment looks like this> ua-cam.com/video/4mkRFCtl2MI/v-deo.html It is science and technology driven; not spiritually thought driven. Once we acknowledge that the environment dictates human behavior, we will build the best environment. We will build compassion into our systems. Capitalism will never allow for a full embrace of compassion since the human mind is infected with the idea of money as our God. And Rupert is of capitalism selling you a good feel product for his benefit.
Does that mean that all consciousness in the universe is us? Do we experience the qualia of ALL consciousness in this universe?
The Universe is apparently in consciousness.
There is no 'I' or 'us' in oneness.
Or the 'I's and 'us' are the oneness. A soul may contract into the singular of a self and also expand into the field of 'us' - while never being separated from the oneness. There are no rules or limits inside Light. It is a fabric of oneness that also allows for purified selves to exist and a purified us to exist.
I could say it this way: you have a 'self' layering and an 'us' layering and they are the same as a oneness, but at the same time they are a unique separation inside the oneness. You feel both at the same time, you feel 'self' and 'us'. So technically there is an 'I'. A purified 'I' that experiences the 'us'.
The Compassionate World does that mean that the "singular of a self" is not all there is? because there is now still this self you mention so must be separate.
In oneness the light has merged in the light, a singularity, a dimensional concept beyond mundane there is no self only the illumination of view.
Though being self conscious yes clouds the view as 'I' and other.
Maybe we speak the same and the view is just different 😁
Yes, I think we have the same idea and we both know it is hard to explain. Maybe this will help to tie our views a bit. The afterlife is a magically fabric of Light that produces the oneness, and where we are both a self and an us. Think in telepathic terms, you may communicate with another soul and communicate with an infinite group of souls. But at the same time never separated from any other soul because the fabric of Light will not allow a separation. We have Light bodies that share energy unlike the physical body that separates.
Gosh i didnt know enghlintment has soo many words🤦🏼♀️
The earth does not move, it is the sun which turns its back from the earth, thus depriving the earth of the light, it is the earth which must seek and follow light as light will not stoop down to the ways of the earth, this is the same principle that God uses, he tells man to seek the Kingdom of God, this means that God will never stoop low to the ways of man
how to know if he's speculating/theorizing or is talking from personal experience. I mean take like Osho he was revered as a miraculous mystic but he seemed more a great philosopher and showman. People who knew him personally saw him suffering in pain and addicted to drugs, for heaven's sake when HIV/AIDS came out, Osho was telling the residents to wash their hands and cut down the free love. Now Rupert has a sparking reputation but how to know. In some ways it doesn't matter but I don't want to hear more theories and speculations. And if life is all a dream and everything outside is false and just a projection of the consciousness of the dreamer then how can I trust anything I am seeing in the movie of life?
Well the mind is a clever machine , we cannot say that we are in illusion as long as we can't see for ourselves ,even to imagine that there is some state where there are no illusion becomes another idea or illusion for the mind , that's one of the reason many spiritual people have high Egos , what he is saying is right or not can only be known once one has ended his mind not for some illusory idea but because of its irrationality ,like attachment is harmful end it and so on with every content of mind ,the way he is saying sounds so much beautiful and all but actually its a dreadful process especially if one is very attached to himself or herself , not giving energy to any physcological memory whether it is of family or friends or somebody ,not giving energy to desire (also not desiring that something will happen out of this simply because we cannot know unless we are out of this) , ending beliefs and all that,
And yes osho used a lot of word salad in his discourses , fooled plenty of people , almost turned into cult leader ,even tho i still believe he was enlightened, because that's what many enlightened people do , every religion turned into a cult you see , many of robert sayings are also speculations like the i am thought ,fall into silence and all that
It is like presenting you an idea of higher state and giving some tricks to practice or some description of it , just playing with your mind.
One can only know when one doesn't project ideas and meet the reality as it is .
Lol its long one idk what I've written
What this guy trying to teach is the ancient india school of philosophy called Advita Vadanta of which great sages like Adisankara and Sri Ramana Maharishi were masters.For those who want to see the source of his talk iof non duality please do check those names up
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Spiritdove, trolling much? You're negative remark towards anyone sharing wisdom shows an obvious predilection towards judgement, as does my judgement on you. Guess you and I both have some growing to do.
And I thought enlightenment was easy and for everyone to have and understand.. I was wrong...
When you are thirsty, when it is mild, you may ignore it but as the intensity increases the thirst will drive you to quench it, during that drive what matters to you is the substance that will quench it rather then the ease or difficulty in getting it...
Ease or difficulty depends only on the Drive or Intensity to accomplish...
ohh what a taming
🚀💡😁😇🤩🤗 universe 🌍 ok
Very profound and so right. It's like the negative path of Catholic theology or the nety nety.
There IS a separate self.When I stub my toe in the middle of the night and say " You Fuck"! to an inanimate object................. the guy down the street is not bothered in the least.
That is why Jewish Rabbis say, "HaShem". It simply means, "the name".
The more I watch these things, the less interest I have in anything. I have a dilemma. I have one foot in this material illusion and one foot in the spiritual. It’s very confusing
I sometimes feel the Same … its a Transformation that Takes its time … like a catarpillar when it becomes a butterfly 😇🦋🐛🙏
Rupert spira. The responsibility of a teacher part 2
I wonder what would happen if I would strip away the esoteric parts of Spira's teachings and only keep what fits rational thinking.
Say we rid Spira's teachings of the infinite mind, and the universal god-mind. What would change, from the perspective of an individual?
I suppose not much. Nothing essential. Those appear to be unnecessary hypotheses to me, so let's throw them away.
_"I wonder what would happen if I would strip away the esoteric parts of Spira's teachings and only keep what fits rational thinking."_
...sounds *absolute fun* to me....LET'S SEE YOU DO IT... *:-)*
I was really hoping for someone to point me to another author who already did something similar to that. :)
@@Madoc_EU ...no "rational thinking" above esoterism here i see...good job...
Rupert Spira isn't Enlightned.
He can be awake.
Enlightnment itself, isn't like he explains. There is a lot of EGO, in his story.
Enlightnment is pure SELF.
Even when one is in process of Enlightnment, who control, who guide such process is the SELF.
Yeah go become a vegetable and sit around uselessly. Idiot.
As beautiful as these thoughts are and as beneficial as they are, The danger is to confuse the self as God, manifestation of God, or part of God. Then beauty becomes ugliness, turning away from the light into darkness and enlightenment becomes arrogance.
The teaching falls silent there. But if you decide to speak again, your speaking will have a different quality :-)
Verily I say unto you, he that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. . . I am the door. By me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. . . I am the good shepherd, and I know my sheep, and am known of mine. - Jesus Christ
This man is a thief making himself rich off half cooked wisdom, while fools chase him all coveting his worldly stature. There is no rest in this world but in Jesus Christ there is rest for the weary soul. No man can come to God without repentance and accepting Jesus Christ as the Lord God himself. If Rupert spira is the coming of Jesus Christ, what does he need money for?
Adam Liberte Verily I say unto you, go fuck yourself you bible thumbing Christian missionary.
Depression beard, lol, right on. Go thump somewhere else!
I'm afraid you've lost me.
I must be lost in oneness
teeheehee
@Spiritdove to you maybe, but it's not. is it the case that everything you do not understand is bullshit?
With pure awareness comes the awareness of corruption and injustice in the world. God is light, but he is also righteous. He's not just a light bulb. There is no peace without righteousness. Fraud alert.
False. Awareness is not dualistic. There cannot be righteousness without ignorance. Only the mind can judge in that ways. Also, the great missunderstanding lies in thinking that awareness is passive acceptance. It is not. On the contrary, it is sensitive towards life protection and through which acts of wisdom and understanding come.
brain hurts bruh
I just don’t see how he thought this was a good way to explain this.
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very clever theory. pity to the innocent that take your words . you creat another illusion for them.
Everything is theoretical as long as it is experienced practically.
How lonely I must be!!! To play these games.
It does not know loneliness. Only your finite self knows of a 'thing' called loneliness.
Perhaps
This is the not the highest teaching on Vedanta. The highest teaching in vedanta is that the Sadhana and Self or Atma is non different, subtle name and form nama and rupa is non different to the Atma. This is the teaching of the Avadhuta, expedient means is Self, Self reveals himself by his own causes, no other medium can do it. Nama is silence, nama is divine sound, it is shakti, devi highest form of Atma.
Very Wise. You are correct.
Shut up. Humble yourself and learn. Stop mindlessly parroting nonsense.
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You dont know what your saying brother, and its not being humble to say to someone to shut up. Is He speaking a a religion where your not allowed to think in a different way.
Emptiness is form form is emptiness , everything is everything my friends, its obvious
Maybe you heard exactly what was needed to be heard through me 🤔
On the bright side, I did not call you an idiot like I did the other commentor somewhere in this comments section.
I am utterly appalled by the comments sections on spiritual videos. I see the absolute worst of humanity being expressed through arrogance, narcissism, delusions of grandeur and lies. In a way I am doing the real work by deflating the enlightened egos in comments sections.
cheers
@@drygordspellweaver8761 sounds like your talking to yourself, and your trying to come across as some big shot, what you see is what you are
You dont even know what i said, and if you dont know how to be polite your in the wrong section all together.
People who have been enlightened don't need to make UA-cam videos or need to sell books.......UA-cam make videos about the enlightened and other people write their books......This guy has read about 3 chapters of a Gurdjieff book, one chapter of a Buddhist book...and made the rest up himself......It's all about money folks...Snake oil salesman......
For those who are seeking what matters is the knowledge and not who gives it. It may a sales proposition for him but for the seeker it is an opportunity to get additional knowledge
Academics should stay away from spirituality.
Rebel Nomad He's not even an academic. He's a studio potter specialized in ceramics. The way he's able to talk and write about these things is considered a gift by most of the spiritual contemporaries. You should stay away from quick judgment.
I stand corrected. Thank you.
Much impressed by your response.
Too many concepts
Too much theory