I was raped in 1975 while in the Army. I didn't report it because I saw what happened to someone who reported rape a week before it happened to me. That person was ostracized, & definitely not believed. I did not report it. I didn't even tell my closest friends or family. I did tell my daughter 26 years later when she was considering ROTC. It makes me very sad to hear that victims are still be ostracized all these years later.
Shari, it brought me to tears just reading what you wrote. I was sexually harassed throughout my Air Force career. I entered the Air Force in 1980 and the military environment of harassment was pretty much the norm. I told other military members but was afraid to report it to my superintendent and commanders. My brother, an Army Major pushed me to report it, but I was so afraid. Retaliation is real in the military. I retired and eventually reported it to the VA. They truly helped and believed me. Still, it’s a big problem in every branch. An outside investigative team that includes VA reps must be established to have jurisdiction. God bless you.
@@cindyrolle6476 I am a 4x MST survivor. Got out in 2019. Refused to move me from my room. I gave my command an ultimatum when I made an attempt on my life and told them they could watch me die or get me a rape kit. I wanna fight this so hard but I don’t even know how.
The point of contact for victims in the first instance must be a outside independent office who investigate the incident. Retaliation, harrassment must be handed to Law Enforcement to see if charges of witness intimidation, witness tampering, obstruction of Justice. When it's a Federal crime it should be dealt with outside of Military justice. No one is above the law.
The old folks did things the way they did for a reason. The penalty for rape in the military used to be death. That's how they kept order on ships at sea and remote duty posts around the world. I have a US Coast Guard examination study manual for Merchant Marine officers that prescribes the death penalty as late as1965.
So, are you saying things should still be that way? I was assaulted in the army. I didn't report because I had already seen how they treated another soldier. They threatened her with court marshal, strip her rank, other male soldiers were harassing her. What I had been through was bad enough. I couldn't go through all of that. What exactly are you saying? Still put rapists to death? Or hold these men, leaders, and military branches accountable?
@@jill4806 I am truly sorry to hear how you were violated and offended. I'm not a big proponent of Capital punishment, however, I am nearly 60 years old and when I was growing up the WWII generation was in charge of our society. Men like my father and his brothers grew up during the Great Depression then they went to war and served under that draconian wartime code of military justice. Everyone back then knew where they stood. There was no gray areas of circumstantial baloney exceptions like this ridiculous notion of whether "No means no" or not. Sex was not viewed as a natural human right at that time. One was not in the military to have sex. In the B&W film "From Here to Eternity" Burt Lancaster's character remarks that as a Top Sergeant he was risking 20 years in Leavenworth military prison for having a consensual affair with the Company Commander's wife. At some point policy makers decided that sex crimes in the military were going to be tolerable when they allowed women into the common ranks and they did away with the severe consequences of criminal conduct.
@@celticman1909 thank you for your honest and historically educated answer. I believe in traditional gender roles but that while a man may be head of his household, he should love his wife like Christ loves the church. So, we could debate the merits of women in the military quite civilly and interestingly. But..... A rapist has no excuse. Just because I wore my uniform in close proximity to a man is no excuse.
It is also failing those who are victimized when activists/soldiers are allowed to weaponize the SHARP system. This is also a common problem. It should be addressed as well.
I was assaulted in 1992 and I have not even gotten credit for my service or life and have memory loss from untreated blunt force head trauma from Halliburton Kellogg Brown Root Dyn Corps Balfour Beatty Total Security Systems International G4S Special Forces military police assault and war crimes.
There should be a medium where people can submit ideas that could potentially change the outcome of the sexual assault criminal process. It's like the military doesn't even care.
I don't think it's the program that's failing service members, it's the people. Their chain of command is what's failing. The program cannot work, if people won't do their jobs.
Can't forget how military members are assaulting women overseas in different countries unreal how that never gets talked about can't even find any videos about it on UA-cam
No sir, it’s not about “doing better” it’s about FIXING it. Remove all rapists and all who tolerate it from within. These people are criminals and should NOT represent us in our national uniform.
i seen dozens if assults and 100s of unwanted sexual advances while i was in the air force. you just couldn't say anything cause the retaliations were very harsh for those who spoke up. .
Can't/won't police themselves.
Needs to be handled by local law enforcement/prosecutors....Period!!!
Needs a special unit from the civilian sector to handle everything. Police don't understand.
@@rickyschwiderson7737 YES ❤ this!!!
I was raped in 1975 while in the Army. I didn't report it because I saw what happened to someone who reported rape a week before it happened to me. That person was ostracized, & definitely not believed. I did not report it. I didn't even tell my closest friends or family. I did tell my daughter 26 years later when she was considering ROTC. It makes me very sad to hear that victims are still be ostracized all these years later.
Shari, it brought me to tears just reading what you wrote. I was sexually harassed throughout my Air Force career. I entered the Air Force in 1980 and the military environment of harassment was pretty much the norm. I told other military members but was afraid to report it to my superintendent and commanders. My brother, an Army Major pushed me to report it, but I was so afraid. Retaliation is real in the military. I retired and eventually reported it to the VA. They truly helped and believed me. Still, it’s a big problem in every branch. An outside investigative team that includes VA reps must be established to have jurisdiction. God bless you.
@@cindyrolle6476 I am a 4x MST survivor. Got out in 2019. Refused to move me from my room. I gave my command an ultimatum when I made an attempt on my life and told them they could watch me die or get me a rape kit.
I wanna fight this so hard but I don’t even know how.
For the reasons stated in this video, I never encouraged my girls to join any of the armed forces! Sad and pathetic really.
💯
If a sexual assault is covered up then those individual(s) should be punished as well.
they got covered up a lot
Crimes against humanity.
The point of contact for victims in the first instance must be a outside independent office who investigate the incident. Retaliation, harrassment must be handed to Law Enforcement to see if charges of witness intimidation, witness tampering, obstruction of Justice. When it's a Federal crime it should be dealt with outside of Military justice. No one is above the law.
nothing is done period. if you tryed you was beaten down
The old folks did things the way they did for a reason. The penalty for rape in the military used to be death. That's how they kept order on ships at sea and remote duty posts around the world. I have a US Coast Guard examination study manual for Merchant Marine officers that prescribes the death penalty as late as1965.
So, are you saying things should still be that way? I was assaulted in the army. I didn't report because I had already seen how they treated another soldier. They threatened her with court marshal, strip her rank, other male soldiers were harassing her. What I had been through was bad enough. I couldn't go through all of that. What exactly are you saying? Still put rapists to death? Or hold these men, leaders, and military branches accountable?
@@jill4806 I am truly sorry to hear how you were violated and offended.
I'm not a big proponent of Capital punishment, however, I am nearly 60 years old and when I was growing up the WWII generation was in charge of our society. Men like my father and his brothers grew up during the Great Depression then they went to war and served under that draconian wartime code of military justice. Everyone back then knew where they stood. There was no gray areas of circumstantial baloney exceptions like this ridiculous notion of whether "No means no" or not. Sex was not viewed as a natural human right at that time. One was not in the military to have sex. In the B&W film "From Here to Eternity" Burt Lancaster's character remarks that as a Top Sergeant he was risking 20 years in Leavenworth military prison for having a consensual affair with the Company Commander's wife. At some point policy makers decided that sex crimes in the military were going to be tolerable when they allowed women into the common ranks and they did away with the severe consequences of criminal conduct.
@@celticman1909 thank you for your honest and historically educated answer. I believe in traditional gender roles but that while a man may be head of his household, he should love his wife like Christ loves the church. So, we could debate the merits of women in the military quite civilly and interestingly. But..... A rapist has no excuse. Just because I wore my uniform in close proximity to a man is no excuse.
I’ve known this for years!
It is also failing those who are victimized when activists/soldiers are allowed to weaponize the SHARP system. This is also a common problem. It should be addressed as well.
Same way they fail veterans; sadly what else is new in our government departments, when inadequacy in a pandemic is the norm on 2020?.
This is not ok. This needs to BLOW UP.
This is normal for Veterans....
www.forbes.com/sites/kellypope/2020/04/27/conversations-with-a-hospital-whistleblower/
Thank you CBS, THANK YOU!
I was assaulted in 1992 and I have not even gotten credit for my service or life and have memory loss from untreated blunt force head trauma from Halliburton Kellogg Brown Root Dyn Corps Balfour Beatty Total Security Systems International G4S Special Forces military police assault and war crimes.
So sorry that happened to you! 🙏🏾 praying for you
This is sadly the true reality in military forces in the world. These ladies are so brave 💪🏽
And this...
www.forbes.com/sites/kellypope/2020/04/27/conversations-with-a-hospital-whistleblower/
Cops,military,government. America is struggling. Everyone needs to do better.
Disturbing.
There should be a medium where people can submit ideas that could potentially change the outcome of the sexual assault criminal process. It's like the military doesn't even care.
They don’t when they added females in service they didn’t actually make space for us they just expected us to operate like men… lol but we are women
Exactly! Well said !
But the military is giving them maternity flight suits. For those on the left that is more important.
I'm a native American veteran and was drugged kidnapped tortured mentally and physically and raped. He locked me in a dog cage.
I don't think it's the program that's failing service members, it's the people. Their chain of command is what's failing. The program cannot work, if people won't do their jobs.
Can't forget how military members are assaulting women overseas in different countries unreal how that never gets talked about can't even find any videos about it on UA-cam
No sir, it’s not about “doing better” it’s about FIXING it. Remove all rapists and all who tolerate it from within. These people are criminals and should NOT represent us in our national uniform.
i seen dozens if assults and 100s of unwanted sexual advances while i was in the air force. you just couldn't say anything cause the retaliations were very harsh for those who spoke up. .
That’s so sad but relatable
Please ask Jesus to heal you and comfort you thank you
And we can see! it's happening to men to something has to change
ooh a new "action plan" well that's better than thoughts and prayers; hopefully will lead to visible change
And they are openly talking now because..........
(you're welcome to fill in the blanks)
Unless you've been in a traumatizing situation you would know it's not always easy to speak of it right away especially publicly for millions to hear.
Social media will listen unlike the commanders
Finally
I'm a MST Victim from ft. Hood in 1982.
And....this happened.
www.forbes.com/sites/kellypope/2020/04/27/conversations-with-a-hospital-whistleblower/