@@johnmontag this is true but you cant say that Apache and the rest weren't selling boats to drug traffickers and taking drug money as payment for boats lol.
Us youngsters could only dream and read the stories of how fun and cool it must have been. Nowadays you can’t move a muscle because our phones track our every step. I guess if you really really wanna make some moves now you gotta leave the technology at home 😅
Doesn't get any better than an Apache; regardless of size. Great company, great people & great boats,,,,,,,😎. I was a huge Cigarette fan up til 2000; before the company went with step hulls. Loyalties switched after that. Apache has my undivided attention. I still can't rule out a pre-2000 Top Gun; special place in my heart for that boat, especially the Kevlar ones! I have also grown VERY FOND of the Apache 36' Warpath. Can't go wrong with either one. Hopefully I'll make the right decision this Fall?
I run small V bottoms. They are a ton safer and you can still make them beat cats. V bottoms are much more predictable !!! Long live the V bottom Apache !!
@@JRotten okayyy. Maybe they didn’t shit were they ate but I can tell you Ben Kramer certainly wasn’t building them from jail… wait how did he end up in jail? Yuse ur brane buddeee
The Apache 41 is still the best offshore boat after all these years. In the future, I'm going to build a 42 foot offshore boat that will be the best deep-v offshore boat of all time. When it's complete, I will post it here on UA-cam.
Somebody should make a movie about Ben Kramer. Between powerboat racing, drug running, murder and trying to escape prison in a helicopter, this guy had one interesting life (I say "had" since anything interesting in his life pretty much ended after the whole "trying to escape prison in a helicopter" thing.)
a movie about don aranow was made (travolta was decent!) and they hacked that, what makes what Ben something worth more? Aranow had created companies that produced products that live on, forget about Kramer, he was awesome in such a different way.
don aranow(travolta was born for this! ) was so much more than the movie “hacked” his life. Easy for a quick dip, and not get that man’s character across. We all got short changed, when a story is sold like that, over and over by sub par entertainment. Truly a great marine story was missed b/c noone said stop or hold on a minute !
getting on and off the throttles is an attempt to "REDUCE THE LOADS" when the drives and props enter the water ....if left wfo the shafts would snap or motors would break cranks...so they "work the sticks" as we say .....also why we have a dedicated throttleman.....thats his job to take care of the drives and motors so they last the whole race.
prior to being arrested in august 1987, bennie kramer (an actual relative of meyer lansky) had by then purchased a house in a foreign country (malta) making plans to leave the usa before being caught by the feds
the d.e.a. says it, along with investigative reporters tom burdick and charlene mitchell, plus bennie's failed 1989 helicopter jailbreak attempt proves his guilt along with his father jack
Good evening - we photographed Warpath this week for the current owner, and I'm working on putting together a video. I came across your video, and would love to use a few clips from it to share the history. Would that be possible, and are you the copyright owner? Thanks so much - loved watching the period content!
february 3, 1987: aronow murdered in a drive-by shooting (lincoln town car driven by killer fernando gandon) aided by chicago mobsters wayne bock and frank schweiss, via orders given by miami crime boss alvin malnik
I just finished Don Arronows story of how he was killed on Feb 3 1987 that was crazy- he knew who did it- but I cant believe no one else including Ben Kramer and the gang did not know- ???
BEN KRAMER APACHE TEE SHIRT. oldscooloffshore.com/listing/big-money-big-balls?product=328
They really had “the best”. No one can debate that.
WARPATH is alive and well in the swells in 2022! Amazing 👏
The best that DOPE money can buy . lol
That nug money. Kramer didn't traffic blow. That was fellow race championship Willie and Sal
@@johnmontag this is true but you cant say that Apache and the rest weren't selling boats to drug traffickers and taking drug money as payment for boats lol.
@@shornandkenny
Absolute fact.😊
900 hp each, #5's and 3 blades. Wow. GOD Bless
Those were the days, 82’ in Miami.. forget about it.
Us youngsters could only dream and read the stories of how fun and cool it must have been. Nowadays you can’t move a muscle because our phones track our every step. I guess if you really really wanna make some moves now you gotta leave the technology at home 😅
@@josefastboats5874 exactly right, phones are like house arrest ankle bracelets
Doesn't get any better than an Apache; regardless of size. Great company, great people & great boats,,,,,,,😎. I was a huge Cigarette fan up til 2000; before the company went with step hulls. Loyalties switched after that. Apache has my undivided attention. I still can't rule out a pre-2000 Top Gun; special place in my heart for that boat, especially the Kevlar ones! I have also grown VERY FOND of the Apache 36' Warpath. Can't go wrong with either one. Hopefully I'll make the right decision this Fall?
I own a 95 kevlar TG. Man I love that boat . Nice to read your comments.
I run small V bottoms. They are a ton safer and you can still make them beat cats. V bottoms are much more predictable !!! Long live the V bottom Apache !!
@@thomasstark5381 🏆🏆🏆🎯
Such cool boats. I love the color schemes they ran on these things as well.
A deceased family of mine, in the Antilles had an Apache, the boats name was Hate. A monster boat.
Stupid name
The best. I wonder how many tons were unloaded from Port Apache
Zero.
They didn't run drugs.
They just built race boats (that could).
@@JRotten okayyy. Maybe they didn’t shit were they ate but I can tell you Ben Kramer certainly wasn’t building them from jail… wait how did he end up in jail? Yuse ur brane buddeee
@@JRotten yeah ok
The Apache 41 is still the best offshore boat after all these years. In the future, I'm going to build a 42 foot offshore boat that will be the best deep-v offshore boat of all time. When it's complete, I will post it here on UA-cam.
How’s that boat coming along? Lol
The future isn’t here yet for him
need team members?
Ok
Who holds the deepV offshore speed record?
Say what you want ! Ben is still a damn good driver!!
ya he makes a great hole shot!
We're sure his cellmate agrees
Somebody should make a movie about Ben Kramer. Between powerboat racing, drug running, murder and trying to escape prison in a helicopter, this guy had one interesting life (I say "had" since anything interesting in his life pretty much ended after the whole "trying to escape prison in a helicopter" thing.)
a movie about don aranow was made (travolta was decent!) and they hacked that, what makes what Ben something worth more?
Aranow had created companies that produced products that live on, forget about Kramer, he was awesome in such a different way.
@@simpson3048 Aronow
Speed kills movie!!!! brought me here lol
A good movie-speed kills
don aranow(travolta was born for this! ) was so much more than the movie “hacked” his life. Easy for a quick dip, and not get that man’s character across. We all got short changed, when a story is sold like that, over and over by sub par entertainment.
Truly a great marine story was missed b/c noone said stop or hold on a minute !
Best video ever!
Love this boat. .. live to own this old school 😎
the loads on those engines would be fantastic , constant on and off the throttles as the prop leaves the water .
getting on and off the throttles is an attempt to "REDUCE THE LOADS" when the drives and props enter the water ....if left wfo the shafts would snap or motors would break cranks...so they "work the sticks" as we say .....also why we have a dedicated throttleman.....thats his job to take care of the drives and motors so they last the whole race.
@@craigbielsky115 it's also to keep the engines from over revving.
cool video ! thank you !!!
Let him out!!! Paid his debt
love you Bobbie S
i remember seeing this boat being built. ben and a bunch of us used to run together, lol after all we were all in the same buisness at the time.
grimjack111 yeah, I helped too
Do you mean Ben aronoff?
@@BobMarley-oq5yq lmfao
An era in American history never forgotten, Miami 77’ thru around 84’
love to see that
prior to being arrested in august 1987, bennie kramer (an actual relative of meyer lansky) had by then purchased a house in a foreign country (malta) making plans to leave the usa before being caught by the feds
doubt that, and you are just way out of line by saying that.
the d.e.a. says it, along with investigative reporters tom burdick and charlene mitchell, plus bennie's failed 1989 helicopter jailbreak attempt proves his guilt along with his father jack
Most durable hull of all time
I need an R/C apache, maybe 48"
Shell game,move the money from one spot to another. Money laundering at its best.
Powered by pure Adrenaline, Coke money and cammed Mercs 😅
what was the name of the tv program
?
You oughta really bring the boats back with a stepped hull modification
“No Steps, No pads, No Beak, No Bullshit”. Straight 24 degrees beating you in the face in big water.
@@eugeneweeks3325 Amen! These kids today just don't know.
I’m pretty sure that VHS video was recorded over an episode of Miami Vice in someone’s wood paneled den.
The "American Powerboat World Championship".
Apparently The USA is on it's very own planet now.
Nice boat though, and nice mullets.
Thats right! Its Lonely at the top -
Learn what the word "world" means. Like other imbeciles, you're confusing it with "international"
boat is always a compromise these are best big water boats even today.
nice
Good evening - we photographed Warpath this week for the current owner, and I'm working on putting together a video. I came across your video, and would love to use a few clips from it to share the history. Would that be possible, and are you the copyright owner? Thanks so much - loved watching the period content!
Oh.
february 3, 1987: aronow murdered in a drive-by shooting (lincoln town car driven by killer fernando gandon) aided by chicago mobsters wayne bock and frank schweiss, via orders given by miami crime boss alvin malnik
Some crazy shit
Love the 1990's resolution - My eyes hurt just 10 seconds in.
I just finished Don Arronows story of how he was killed on Feb 3 1987 that was crazy- he knew who did it- but I cant believe no one else including Ben Kramer and the gang did not know- ???
Darren Ahearn don knew who killed him? Why didn’t he speak up
oh so you wrote a fiction novel, cause everyone in the boat business knew the day Don was murdered who did it.... yet you still don't lol
@@captaincook7348 No, what he meant is, he just finished reading "Speed Kills"
❤🎉❤
That Apache kicks serious ass, still today it would. Is it still around?
Very much so,,,,,,,,
A guy in miami owns this boat I saw it on you tube
@@amauryruche8268 yep on hoonigan I think... im extremely jealous. Would love to own this boat, its one of the most iconic of all time.
180.00 mph is the current top gun v bottom record i believe....this boat is about 60mph off the pace
@@craigbielsky115 not in big water
do you know how many more years kramer will be in jail?
It's such a bummer.
195yrs No parole.
Send in another helicopter.
@@mikehermesmeglio lmfao
ya bummer he had Don whacked too, ua-cam.com/video/Sw6yb2FA5OU/v-deo.html Start at 8 minutes in if you want to know the truth.
All of them.
Not from my tribe
Let Ben out Carlos ledere is out deported
Hey Ben, how you like 3 hot's and a cot for the rest of your life? Too bad Bobby didn't get caught too....
Bobby died in prison anyway.
Catermeran a fad… lol