Correct Tattoo Needle Angle Explained! Know How To Tattoo At The Right Angle!
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- In this video we take a look at the two most common debated needle angles to tattoo at and finally answer the question of which one is right!
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VERY HELPFUL!!! I was told completely wrong for years... I always heard that the 45-degree angle was the "correct" one to use. The reason they said was that a 90-degree angle would put MORE resistance on the needle due to the skin tension, and the 45-degree angle would lessen that tension and resistance, making it easier to penetrate. However, I always noticed I got way better color-packing and solid lines when I would tattoo at a 90-degree angle, but I just thought I was doing it "wrong." It also felt more natural to do it at a 90-degree angle, and I was INCORRECTLY training my hand to tattoo at the 45-degree angle all the time. I'm so glad you cleared this problem up, as I'm sure I'm not the only one who has been misled by the wrong information. Thank you so much!
Thanks for the awesome feedback! I’m glad you’ve cleared it up. It sounds like you already worked it out on your own anyway. Thanks for watching!
Yeah I started lining at 90⁰ last year and it's made a huge difference, now I dont have blowouts anymore
I always heard 90 for lining and 45 for shading
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Glad there are people willing to show others how to learn to tattoo better. Your videos have helped me improve greatly. I've not even been tattoing 6 monthd yet and have accomplished more than I ever thought possible.
I’m learning as well. “Art something”is also a great tutorial page. As well as “Oliver Ayre” but he’s more about portraits and advanced techniques. I have been learning for 3 months so far. I did a big tattoo on my thigh, it actually turned out great and taught me so much.
been in this biz over 45 years. & you are correct. it was sometimes thought that tattooing at an angle would cover or deposit more ink at a given area, thus speeding up the tattoo time per design. needle throw & ink consistency, along with power is also a great factor. The bottom line is if you want to give a great tattoo take your time and take everything into account. from hygiene to guality equipment & components. TKS.
Your videos have honestly taught me more than any of my local artists could have! Thanks for everything!! I'll always be around to watch more!
Thank you! I really appreciate that!
Thank you for making this video! I have a small tattoo gun at home for basic color touchups, and I'd always try holding it at an angle and had so much trouble every single time. I just tried the 90 degree angle method and it went so smoothly! Thank you thank you!
yes thank you for all your knowledge that you share with us you make it so easy to understand things that confuse me before when you explain it it's just like oh that's so simple thank you so much please keep it up I can't wait to see your next video
When you wanna love a video rather than just like a video. Perfect timing for my journey 👌thanks mate
Thank you! Good luck with your journey!!
Exactly my thoughts!
I think you may very well be the friendliest tattoo artist I've ever come across! So refreshing! Lol... not to mention the knowledge sharing!!! 🤘💀❤️🔥
Thank you! I really appreciate that. Thanks for watching!
This is great Jono! I had no idea - and heard a LOT of false information. So appreciate the detailed descriptions!
Although i will admit i have angled some but more with a lower volt and shading. Excellent points. Thank you
Oh my God! Finally someone answered my question!!!!! Thank you!
Super helpful! No fluff. Just straight to it 🤟🏼
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This helps so much!!! Thanks Jono!!!
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Dear jono , thanks so much for the explanation your channel is a huge source of inspiration.
When lining with shader i experience hardships with the 90 degree method , is a slight less then 90 is optimal as well?
I really appreciate the info. You have been very helpful
Thanks for watching!
Very informative!! I really enjoyed this video. You have a new sub 💯
Thank you! Welcome to the channel!
Good Job! That subject was not only correct but it was acceptable!
so helpful!
Can you do a video on ways to hold both coil and pen style tattoo machines? Thank you.
Thanks! I’ve notice when I run a 45 angle the lines come out way thicker and the tattoo doesn’t look that clean. This helps out a lot
Well the thing is 90 degree will give you ink bleeds from the tube, and 45 degree gives you a better 3 point stretch, i dont believe that 90 degree has as much benefits as 45
Your videos are the best..!!
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Thank you! I really appreciate that.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS! I feel so much more comfortable at 90 but thought I was wrong so I was trying to train myself at a 45 but now I know that I was correct (:
Spot on again!
Thanks mate!
Thank you so much I'm a new subscriber. Do I angle to the side or angle the tattoo machine with the line of the tattoo? Should it be slanted to the side of my line or slanted with my line? Please explain
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Perfect video!!But please tell me what angle should i use for shading? I have tried at 90 degrees and didnt work as well as i would like it too...i have seen that tilting the machine back would shade faster and smoother..
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thankyou thankyou thankyou - i just got some new ink, didn't know if it was too thin or what - ending up 'skimming' my arm with no 'result' just a sore scratched arm now. Why because in the last year someone told me to change to a 45 angle (do they want us to fail ? - Thankyou Jono
what about 60 degrees? i have also heard about that so you can deposit the ink correctly without hurting the skin and getting tired easily. is this correct?
Is this the same for shading and color packing? Never seen anyone hold it at 90° other than lining. It does seem though holding it at an angle with a mag, the top row wouldn't go in as deep as the row of needles closest to the skin
by watching your video, i do self tattooing. thanks a lot. always here.. from Cebu City Philippines
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Yo from the Phils here too!
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Very nice bro
I’m a year late from when this video dropped but I always assumed 45 was the correct way. Definitely going to have to try the 90 degree form now on
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🤣 awww thanks! Glad you liked it!
I've heard you must angle with packing color. Which to me, using a mag needle makes no sense unless one row of needles is longer than the other. So, are you saying with any type and any situation, 90° is always the best??? This would make a lot more sense to me if true. Thanks
I'm really struggling to get clean lines with a 14rl.. have to pass 2 and 3 times to correct it.. I think it's my angling mixed with my fear of going too deep.. this video is super helpful thank you so much..
My next upload should really help you out as it covers everything to pull nice strong lines. Keep a look out for it soon. Thanks for watching!
You have go have the machine more upright for a bigger needle grouping so it doesnt cause alot of trauma
But does that still apply to non-coil machines, like pen style?
Hi Jono thanks for the awesome videos! I have a question regarding this video. I agree that either angle works depending on the situation but I expected the answer to be the other way around, 45° correct 90° acceptable. I've been told that 45° is correct because contrary to popular opinion, a tattoo needle does not "deposit " ink into the skin. Instead, the needle enters the skin and creates a hole. When the needle exits the skin a vacuum is formed which pulls the ink on the surface of the skin into the hole. If this scenario is correct a 45° angle creates a larger elliptical hole than the circular hole of a 90° angle and therefore achieves greater saturation. Is this information incorrect? Thanks again!!
Very good point, many people say that 90 degrees will not deposit any ink or will give you a very light lines.
@@hacedms i know for a fact that 90° can result in nice clean fully saturated lines :)
How come when I did it up and down (90°) the ink never went in and and all I saw was blood and no ink (line)
I'm mostly at 90 degrees.. I think tattooing at 45 degrees could be quite uncomfortable. Just get that grip tape on and 90 degrees will be easy and comfortable
So; is that the same for mag shading? Or should mag shading be at 45 or less? I get the 90 for lining.. but what about mad shading/saturation
I try to use 90 for pretty much everything when possible.
How about a pro/con video of using Lidocaine cream/gel
I’ll put that on my list, thanks for the suggestion!
What about 75 degrees?
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Damn....Thank goodness...I was nearly done with the 45 degree thing.Wanted to just do my thing and fck all...45 degrees at certain parts just felt unnatural...
This video made me feel better...thanks man
I’m glad it’s helped you out! Thanks for watching!
Is this the same for lining and shading?
Shading is a bit different because the machine sweeps across the skin so the angle constantly changes.
Great vid, do you work at 90 even when shading???
Shading is a little different as the angle constantly changes due to the machine sweeping over the skin.
@@JonoSmithTattoo talking about a coil machine or a pen???? Personally I use a coil machine, some say it,'s harder to shade!!!
@@topiary3376 Either coil or pen. Same applies.
@@JonoSmithTattoo cheers man!!
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i always use 45 degrees
Yes there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that especially if it works for you. Thanks for watching!
Probably a dumb question but does this go for liner and let's say a weaved mag?
It’s not a dumb question. Yeah it applies to any configuration.
@@JonoSmithTattoo I kinda figured as much. Thank you
I'm an apprentice and my mentors/other artists around kept insisting that 45 is better, but I'm much more confident and comfortable at 90 lol thanks for the validation!
I’m glad the channel is helping you out. Thanks for watching!
I'm having trouble holding the machine at a 90 degree angle. I don't know if it's the machine itself or what but 45 feels more natural.
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Question in regards of pepper shading: Sometimes I have the problem that the Cheyenne Pen only leaves red skin and "empty" dots without any ink in the skin. Pepper shading between 6 and 7.5V. Any tips on why this happens?
It could be something as simple as you need to stretch the skin more. Sounds like the needle is bouncing instead of piercing.
Does this apply Apply to colour packing too Jono.
Yes it applies to all aspects of tattooing. Thanks for watching!
I simply cannot master the basics of tattooing been trying for six months.
On fake shit looks unsaturated I've even done work on myself I either get end results patchy and scratch or road rash scabs for months. I mean I haven't really been able to get a good stretch as it's on my other arm but still. Is it me or cheap shit equipment...I got told even the cheapest equipment can do the job if you learn
@@hoole1926 it is is true you can technically pull off a tattoo with cheap equipment but it’s VERY difficult. So if you’re a beginner and you are using cheap equipment then the odds are stacked against you from the start. I’d try getting hold of some quality equipment. You’ll definitely notice the difference.
@@JonoSmithTattoo cheers mate. I've got expensive ink and cartridge just cheapish rotary
@@hoole1926 what you might want to do is look at his other video on needle depth , if it comes out scratchy you’re not deep enough and if you have scabs you’re going too deep . your machine could also be set too high and you’re going to slow ( causes scabs ) or vice versa and that could make it look unsaturated . He also has another video on hand speed vs machine speed or something along those lines those might help
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Does a rotary vibrate less then a coil?
Generally speaking rotaries vibrate much less than coil machines.
@@JonoSmithTattoo thank you! So in theory it should help with shakey lines?
@@canadianpagan6442 yes a rotary will definitely help if you’re getting shaky lines using a coil.
so this is why when i am tattooing the ink isn't coming out! I thought it was because I wasn't doing the 45 degree angle right >_
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I think your video covers some basic aspects of this subject. However there is a LOT of reasons this is nuanced. I will add my insights if I may
Needle angle can a give many different results. The corner or a 13 flat mag at a 45 or greater angle can be used by the skilled artist to the same result as a single needle or smaller grouping. Where this same scenario at 90 would result in 2 rows of needles leaving 2 distinct lines, and no visibility of where the needles are (not a good look unless it’s intentional. ). Running a machine soft at 45° angle will allow the single row of the magnum to penetrate far easier into the skin than it would if it was at 90° as one person commented this is what hey were taught. Going straight into the skin would have more resistance and increasingly so as needle grouping size increases. it’s simply a matter of physics.
For example ..a 14 needle round shader putting it straight into the skin ..OK well that is ideal if you want to have all those needles creating a very solid thick 14 line, and you better have a really firm hitting machine with a very even level of pressure on your hand or that shit can get ugly, skippy and choppy real quick. We now must include the complexity of the skin stretch.
This same example done on a flabby stomach would be far different than on the same persons calf where the skin is extremely taught. The tighter the skin the more control that you will have with regards subtlety and nuance of needle angles, pressure, speed. if the skills to do so are present and itilized. Another example is a 15 magnum at a 45° angle.. the row of needles on the bottom is definitely going to enter the skin before the top however this can also be used to your advantage for creating a solid fill edge to edge without changing needles to a flat, as the needles push into the skin they will find their way to a taught position on looser skin that’s offering you a nice solid fill. That same situation going straight in on say a calf will leave you with a soft edged needle, so again it’s skilled application of the tool as a matter fact I have no problem shading single needles off of a 15 curve magnum by using angles and having a lot of experience. Not ideal but useable
Another great technique with one of my favorite groupings (14 round shader) at a 45° angle will allow you to have a softened or rounded edge towards the outsides as the needles come up and out of the skin versus the center needles… say five or six of them will be far more buried then the needles to the outside..this is great for doing softened linear things like hair strands I could go far more into depth in this however I think the point I’m trying to make is that these are tools and a skilled user is going to be able to achieve a multitude of results using the same tools that someone who is uneducated will only have a limited use of. It also only takes five minutes of looking at some of the best tattoo artist in the world tattooing and so many of them angled their machines more than 45° to tell them its wrong to do so is simply far too black and white .. no pun intended
Thanks for the comment! Yeah there’s obviously much more in depth to this when you talk about angling mags etc. But to cover all that in a single video I’m sure you’d agree would be more like a 10 hours video. I’m not saying it’s ‘wrong’ to use a 45 degree angle, many artists do use this very effectively. This was just a brief overview video. Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
@@JonoSmithTattoo yes. Advanced and very hands on. I would simplify to say. If you want all the needles in a grouping doing their job, 90 is the way .. or straight in. Fit any detail work including nearly all realism tattoos.. a 45 is going to be essential… with the training to run an appropriate speed and hand pressure … and possible bog (coil) or give (rotary) … and these aspects are not beginner techniques and should be trained hands on by an advanced teacher. ….
This cant be correct for colour packing?
Sir do you give freebies to newbie artist sir ? like machines ?
I’m sorry I get asked this a lot and unfortunately I don’t give machines away as I keep them and use them all. Thanks for watching!
@@JonoSmithTattoo thank you sir just keep on making videos sir
sir what is the best coil machine?
There’s so many reputable brands out there. I’ve always used Micky Sharpz. Though I absolutely love SunSkin coils too.
I was taught to hold it around 75 degrees. Never at 90 degrees.
holyshit I was so dumb why don’t I see it earlier I’ve been torturing my hand for so long and my hand has some problem cuz of this unhuman position. My teacher always tries to correct my way to tattoo and says it will hurt ppls skin…….. he said it’s the worst way tattoo to hold it like when you are drawing……
holyshit I was so dumb why don’t I see it earlier I’ve been torturing my hand for so long and my hand has some problem cuz of this unhuman position. The artist who taught me always tries to correct my way to tattoo and says its the right right way to tattoo otherwise I will hurt the skin…….. he said it’s the worst way to hold it like when you are drawing……😢
90 degree is the best angle,solid line and the ink not expansive,45 degree no look good the needle,and expansive easy.
Between this and your color packing videos my ability has gone up 200% in under 2 hours no joke I had to the problem of solid really good lining detailed 👌 much good for a noob. Then fuck it up trying to color it, shade it out flat out pack black into it. Infuriating ruinning a stencil that took you 4+ hours to line Makes you wanna scream
So.... should we strive to always try to hold the machine at 90 degrees and switch to 45 when required? Or is 45 degrees the whole way okay? Lmao.
I’d say whenever possible 90 degrees. When it’s not possible, no more than 45. Thanks for watching!
@@JonoSmithTattoo Sorry the cheeky comment haha. Interesting, when I learnt stick and poke it was always 45 degrees because you can't really "punch" the ink in to the skin like a machine can. Guess I gotta undo some "bad" habits on my practice skins!
i thought for darker skin its better to come in at an angle
I’m gonna be honest I’ve never heard that one.
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correct angle for rotary?
Thank god someone has the balls to set it straight Most people just beat around the bush I’ve had this question unanswered from the beginning. Thank you soo much
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