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Smith & Wesson .38 Regulation Police….and some history
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2022
- The historic Smith and Wesson .38 Regulation Police, chambered in .38 S&W. #smithandwesson #regulationpolice #.38S&W
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Very nice!
Very nice revolver! Your is well researched, and presented perfectly.
Thanks for the comment and kind words Frank. Appreciate you checking out the channel!
Holy crap. I can’t believe I haven’t stumbled onto your channel earlier. It’s awesome. Subscribed. Love the S&W content.
@@leifhoklin2681I thought the same thing!
I just recently started down the pre war S and W revolver rabbit hole..wish me luck
It’s fun, fascinating, confusing and frustrating all at the same time I find……
The .38sw Regulation Police from what I found was developed for desk Sgts, administration, etc... .38 SW was a common round at this time in America policing. Lighter gun. The .38sw fell out of favor during the Spanish American war. The Moro warriors messed up on drugs were not put done with it, hence the .38 special was developed. The.38 super was developed for the colt 1911 to fire. Year or two later the SW 38-44 HEAVY DUTY was developed to stop motorized bandits. That N-frame was then predecessor to the .357magnum developed in 1935. Sorry not trying to bogg you down just love the history.
Hey thanks for sharing. The ballistic and cartridge side of it very interesting indeed and also a large part of S&W history that kind of gets forgotten. All of these cartridges come out of some type of necessity. My next video is going to be on the S&W 4006 and you can’t really talk about that firearm without getting into a discussion about the development of the .40S&W cartridge.
@@thedailydefender1408 I owned a 4006 SW. Awesome gun but sold it cause my dept started issuing weapons. The joke is a .40SW is a 10MM LITE. LOL.
@@thedailydefender1408 The Miami Dade shootout. I think bot 9mm and 38s were used by the police during that debacle. Nowadays with modern ammo the police probably would have done better maybe?
@@guaporeturns9472 the 1986 Miami shootout although tragic is also fascinating and did change the way law enforcement looked at things tactically and specifically cartridge selection and firearm use. You’re absolutely correct the agents use both 9mm (S&W 459) and .38 special revolvers with .38 +p if I recall correctly. The 9mm rounds were 115 gr Winchester (again if I remember correctly) which at that time (as were most hollow points) were not high tech bullet technology we have today. I seem to also recall the FBI after action report indicating that 147gr was the selected cartridge moving forward for 9mm which I also find interesting because that seems to still be one of the best 9mm rounds. That event almost single handily spoke to the demise of revolvers in LE. I was still issued a S&W .38 special 4” in 1990 with a decent size suburban dept. so it was still a slow change over process.
@@thedailydefender1408 I f I remember correctly I think the biggest problem with the 38 wasn’t the cartridges performance as much as it was the number of rounds available (6 of course) and the difficulty they had reloading under stress.. seems training maybe was a bit weak ..? I might be getting my information mixed with other LE shootings too , my memory is starting to fail me
Yours wheel guns are in immaculate condition considering when they were manufactured.
Thanks for the information.
If you ever decide to have a range day with these please share
Hey thanks for the note, I’ve been pretty lucky not only with shops that kind of cater to these old smith but to find ones in good condition. The prices are pretty high now on them but it’s a limited supply of course and I think people now realize just how well they were made back then. I don’t mind some with honest wear , I’m just not looking for a project. I think you also tend to have two ends of the spectrum with many of these, guns that were carried and ones that sat in drawers for years or decades.
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Agreed...
Mine are all pretty well worn.
I have 3 of the S&W regulation police.
I'm going to restore 1 maybe 2 but leave the other in its patina condition
@@renelopez2244 that’s a great description/ term for many of them and my regulation police has that aged finish look to it but not worn or abused. Kind of like the older ones like that.
From what I understand during the gangster era of the 1920s the police were finding that the 38 calibers were not effective in shootouts due to lack of penetration of the gangster vehicles. It was then that they came out with the 38 Super followed up by the 357 Magnum both of those guns were the first K frames and later the 38 Plus came out on the K frame. I own several 357 but I would love to find a 38 Super from what I understand they're now rare and the ammo is extremely expensive if you can find it.
Your absolutely correct, and in fact some law enforcement were still using .32S&W and .38S&W (which is of course not .38 special) in the early 1900s which I’m sure was very under powered. Interesting you bring up the .38 super haven’t heard that mentioned in a while. If I’m not mistaken the FBI used that around that time in very small numbers until moving to .38 special and .357 magnum, well at least .357 magnum firearms, I believe they generally shot .38 special loads in their revolvers. Perhaps some former agents can comment further.
I think I can comment on that I'm a former sheriff's deputy we could carry 357 Magnum revolvers as long as we loaded them with 38 plus P ammo while we were on duty. However a lot of officers due to the ballistics being practically the same would load their guns with actual 357 ammo and carry 38 ammo in their pocket that way if they were involved in a shootout they could reload their guns with 38 ammunition there was no way to tell back then that actual 357 had been used. Since the fired bullet is basically the same size. Of course I never would have tried this hahaha. From what I understood the state police were using the 38 Super. Eventually most agencies planned on switching over to full 357 loads but they found some of the deputies and our officers especially the females couldn't handle the extra power the extra recoil. And by the '90s almost everyone switched over to semi-auto myself a Glock 17 which I was all too glad to turn back in when I retired and back to My Revolver. Thanks
@@edljnehan2811 hey thanks for adding that. I was only on for a short time and I recall being issued the smith revolver with .38 special +p ammo (in fact I still have some of it) but I’m 99% sure it was a model 67 and not a .357 magnum revolver. That dept too went to Glocks not long after.
@@thedailydefender1408 I'm sorry maybe I didn't explain that thoroughly. We had the option of carrying a 357 Magnum we were issued 38 calibers. I think most of us carried our own 357 magnums if we own them that was allowed as long as the ammunition used was 38 plus p. At the time they were considering issuing 357 to the Department and allowing us to carry full 357 ammo. But I think the city wasn't real comfortable with that being as it's a large urban area. Anyway everyone went semi-automatic shortly thereafter. I hope that clears it up. Thanks for responding.
It is the only modern Era Smith and Wesson to have the serial number on forestrap.
I love my pawn shop find about 4 years ago of my 1953 post war Smith & Wesson Regulation Police in .38s&w caliber !!! I walked in this pawn shop and was looking at this old pistol 4 in barrel blued steel and in near mint condition and immaculate sharp hand engraved diamond wood grips and I thought about it for a few days at home and I went back and put a deposit down on it and bought it on time !!! My Regulation Police pistol was also called the pre model 33 and it has the Improved I-Frame that you mentioned and two boxes of ammo came with the pistol in the deal !!! I debated in my mind should I shoot it or not so after owning it for about 2 years I said what the heck go on and shoot and have fun with it and just clean it and maintain it and it'll hold its value because I'll never sell it !!! So when I took it to friend's outdoor target range and shot it at 15 yards in single action trigger pull only to get the most optimum accuracy out of it and bot what and accurate shooter it was for once I got use to that half moon blade front sight in about 10 shots I could never miss at 15 yards so yes go ahead and shoot it and have fun doing so and yes that ammo is expensive now due to all this 2 1/2 year bullcrap I've managed to collect right at about 1000 rds of the .38s&w caliber ammo 145 gr. or 146 gr. LRN of course !!! I kid you not when I say this pistol is definitely a tack driver and now on my vacation this October I want to go see what I can do on paper out to 7 to 10 yards !!! And this pistol only has Smith & Wesson labeled on one side and .38 s&w ctg. on the other side but is still called a post war Regulation Police model 5 shots of course and just fits my hand better than a glove !!! I appologize for writing such a long comment but now you know I love this pistol/revolver and they don't make them like they use too !!!
thanks for your note Jeff! So glad you like your Reg Police, they are very nice firearms. To your point, they really aren’t made like that any more and that is sad in one regard but also make these vintage S&W revolvers all that more special. thanks again for your comment and I hope your liking the channel.
You probably have one of the best descriptions on the S&W regulation police.
Mine aren't in that great of condition and need a thorough cleaning.
I do plan to shoot them and maybe refinish one .....
So glad you chimed in on this one
Thought they stopped making them in 1940? Maybe I missed something
@@guaporeturns9472 No they still made them just were called post war Regulation Police after WW2 and until 1957 when they became the model 33 !!! The design was the same except without the larger ammo extractor knurl knob and the name REGULATION POLICE wasn't stamped on the barrels after the war so just those two differences that I'm aware of maybe a slight difference in the front sight blade but not sure !!! And this info is direct from the Smith & Wesson Book !!!
@@jeffreyelliott622 Pretty sure that was my point.. they weren’t called Regulation Police after 1940 , correct?
Beauty of a gun.
Any info with model 33-I? I found this available at my dealer.
Then put it on layaway.
Yours appears very similar. Comparison?
I bet it will fire and function just fine without any issues.
Nice video 👍 l have a gun just like that. I wanted to know which number is the correct serial number. The one on the front strap or the one inside the crane ?
Didn’t think it was that old. Model number will tell you more about it.
Good job bro
Thank you sir, glad you enjoyed the content!
Thank you plenty, Mr. Blurry Face.
It’s called an ampersand, and that’s actually short for “and, per se, and” which sounds quite silly
The blurred out face is annoying at best. what exactly is the point? I am a gun owner of half a century or more and am not ashamed.
Please show your face