The Colt ‘Detective Special’ (History in Life & Fiction)

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  • Опубліковано 29 лип 2021
  • Video about this notable handgun and its history in general with views of a vintage example I checked out in person.
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  • @oldcop18
    @oldcop18 Рік тому +17

    I was issued both the Police Positive 4” in uniform & the Detective Special (DS) as a detective. In ‘74 I used that DS in a gunfight w/three armed robbery suspects and came away unhurt.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  Рік тому +5

      Woah. Glad it served you well and you made it out of that.

    • @Dexter_spalding
      @Dexter_spalding 11 місяців тому +2

      Man the story’s you could tell! 👍🏼

    • @oldcop18
      @oldcop18 8 місяців тому +1

      That 1974 gunfight was a wild & scary experience and I’m guessing luck was on my side that night.

    • @bhartley868
      @bhartley868 8 місяців тому +1

      How did they come away ???

    • @MDR-hn2yz
      @MDR-hn2yz 6 місяців тому

      @@oldcop18 hey Old Cop, I tried to find this story by Mas Ayoob. I can’t find it. Any chance you could tell it?

  • @saigawesnovember
    @saigawesnovember 2 місяці тому

    I started to watch this video and halfway through I paused it and pulled out my Colt Detective Special. It’s a late 1960’s and it’s in superb condition.

  • @SHOT_GUNNER
    @SHOT_GUNNER 2 роки тому +16

    I love older guns and vintage cinema. I have a Colt DA .38 1895 and I’m currently looking for a detective special. Great video! 🤠👍🏼

  • @garyK.45ACP
    @garyK.45ACP 2 роки тому +8

    I am a retired police officer. 36 years, 1973-2009. This gun was, indeed, very popular with detectives, especially through the 1980s. Until really compact 9mms at reasonable prices were available the Detective Special and the S&W Chief Special were the most commonly carried plainclothes and off duty handguns. Many detectives wrapped rubber bands around the grip and stuck the gun in their waistband. The rubber bands prevented the gun sliding down past the belt.
    I have one that I carried as a back up to my duty revolver and off duty, and also a S&W Model 40 Centennial I carried off duty. I carried mine as a backup stuck between my wide duty belt and my uniform pants belt, between a couple of belt "keepers", in a "small of back" position. Worked great. Never fell out, and was always available as a quick "reload", so to speak.
    I went into plainclothes duty in 1990 and, by that time, the small revolvers were on their way out as duty weapons. I carried a SIG P228 throughout my plainclothes duty...but when I needed a gun that concealed better, I carried the Colt. Or the S&W. Or both.
    Now retired, I still carry the Colt and also a S&W Model 642 as a concealed carry handgun. The debate has always been over the 5 round capacity of the S&W and 6 round capacity of the Colt. I have both. The S&W is a little easier to conceal...but just a little, and mostly because it has smaller grips. The Colt has an extra round capacity, but the advantage of going from 5 to 6 is not so great to be a major concern. I haven't lost any sleep over it in 48 years.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  2 роки тому

      Great information there. Thanks for writing.

    • @kylewood8327
      @kylewood8327 Рік тому +1

      Given the choice I’d take 6 shots over 5 anyway of the week!

    • @garyK.45ACP
      @garyK.45ACP Рік тому

      @@kylewood8327 Well, that is a choice you are free to make.
      FWIW, I can tell you that in 36 years as police officer in one of the most dangerous cities in America, I never had a situation I couldn't solve with 5 rounds that *would have been* solved with 6 rounds. And for personal self defense, I consider 5 rounds a fair trade for improved concealment.
      That said, I DO still own both 6 round and 5 round small revolvers. My duty pistol for 19 years was a 13+1 and my primary concealed carry handgun is an 8 +1 autoloader. So I am not opposed to more ammo on board, I just don't consider it a priority in my handgun choice.
      I rarely carry the Detective Special anymore, because when I want a smaller handgun (like when I went to the doctor yesterday and surf fishing this morning) the S&W 642 is such a great little pocket gun! The Detective Special, not so much. Not only is it bigger/heavier, it has a hammer spur. The 642 does not.
      So...for THAT purpose, I will take the 5 shot Model 642 any day of the week.

    • @kylewood8327
      @kylewood8327 Рік тому

      @@garyK.45ACP Well, that’s a choice you are free to make.

  • @kylewood8327
    @kylewood8327 Рік тому +2

    I don’t have any Colt DS but I do own two S&W 10-5’s. One square butt (1962) and one round butt (1975). Both with there boxes and all original.
    I love the snubby pistols too, such classics!

  • @larry1824
    @larry1824 Рік тому +4

    A classic with long solid history.

  • @dangerman007
    @dangerman007 2 роки тому +6

    I have a 1971 model that I just had to have because of French Connection. I carry it quite often and I prefer it to modern guns. It worked great then and still works great today.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  2 роки тому +1

      Nice! Yeah, the craftsmanship is superb.

  • @antiquebowieknifechannel4611
    @antiquebowieknifechannel4611 3 роки тому +5

    Those early square Butt variation are the most desirable.

  • @mrbrew1022
    @mrbrew1022 2 роки тому +4

    I have a 1970 model - she is sweet ❤️ and as good today as when she was new .💪🏼Colt !

  • @davidbeal8054
    @davidbeal8054 2 роки тому +3

    My Detective Spcl, made around 1975 AD, is one of my prized possessions. Shoots great. Still shoots great. It always surprises me how well it shoots at even longer distances. I keep it loaded with ammo very similar to the traditional Treasury Agent Load, and always feel well-armed, since I shoot it so well.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  2 роки тому +1

      Nice. I have to acquire one some day.

  • @davek5027
    @davek5027 3 роки тому +7

    I have two Colt Cobras… the lightweight aluminum frame version of the detective special…. One from 1968, and an LAPD example from 1966, (which has been “neutered”, to mean that it is double action only). Although the recoil is harsh, they shoot extraordinarily accurately, despite their short barrels. Awesome video, love the older revolvers.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  3 роки тому +6

      I actually own two Cobras as well LOL. Both made in 1963 and yes, they shoot great. I've just never made videos on them but probably will now that I'll be doing a set of videos on old Colts.

    • @oldcop18
      @oldcop18 8 місяців тому

      I still have the Cobra purchased in 1968 for off duty carry.

  • @derekwaltrip3264
    @derekwaltrip3264 Рік тому +2

    I have been gifted my parents 1964 Detective Special awhile back and quite honestly didn't realize just how "special" this gun is until now. I was about to mistakenly sell it but will definitely not now. Thanks for the video.

  • @MrRexdale71
    @MrRexdale71 7 місяців тому +2

    What a beauty.

  • @johnross5909
    @johnross5909 2 роки тому +5

    Mine was made in 1938. Great weak hand gun in .38 special.

  • @ArizonaGhostriders
    @ArizonaGhostriders 3 роки тому +8

    Love these classics. It would be a good carry gun. They hold up well.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  3 роки тому +3

      Absolutely. My Cobras (have two) are about 60 years old and make great carry pieces.

    • @joebauers3746
      @joebauers3746 Рік тому

      Just paid $800 for one that seems to be pretty much unused, maybe only fired at the factory. And yes, I am going to shoot it a bit and carry it a lot.

  • @pattreadwell6149
    @pattreadwell6149 Рік тому +2

    I always like your research and power point production 👌

  • @bhartley868
    @bhartley868 8 місяців тому +1

    Great now do the Colt 1903 , pocket hamerless automatic, another Bogey favorite...

  • @jamesclark6427
    @jamesclark6427 3 місяці тому

    I have the Detective Special, Cobra and Agent. All slender barrel unshrouded versions from the sixties to early seventies. The Cobra and Agent are two of my favorite street guns ever and both are still in routine use currently. I use a Bucheimer Clark upside down shoulder rig, a Bucheimer Federal Man or Concealer belt holster or one of the modern synthetic pocket holsters for all of the guns. The Cobra is customized, with the hammer spur removed and the top of the hammer serrated for thumb cocking as was sometimes done on Fitz Specials and period smooth black Pearlite grips I rebuilt. I honed the actions on the Detective Special and Cobra as well. The Agent was already as smooth as could be from the factory. I think the Agent, which is one of the very last tapered barrel versions made from 1972, may be the favorite. Somehow it's short grip is just perfect for me, and it's extremely fast from the upside down rig. Nobody expects a gun to come from that position anymore either. It confounds young gun guys, who don't have revolvers and haven't ever seen anything like it. 😏 Agents are also barely larger than a Smith J-frame, and actually have a shorter grip. I also have the original box for the Detective Special with the wrapping and little cleaning brush from the factory. Though I have many S&W revolvers dating back to the early 1900s, in my heart I'm a Colt guy... 😌

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  3 місяці тому +1

      Sounds like an amazing collection man

    • @jamesclark6427
      @jamesclark6427 3 місяці тому

      @@ObjectHistory Thanks. I do especially love my vintage firepower and gunleather. There's also a S&W Model 36, 37, 40, 640, 49 (nickel), 2" M15, 2 1/2" M19, 2 1/2" M686, 4" M64, and a 5" Webley Mk IV .38-200 in the regular battery. Plus a bunch of other Colt and Beretta autos. 😛

  • @cleondubois1270
    @cleondubois1270 4 місяці тому

    Found my lightly used 1994 vintage DS in a nearby gun shop a few years ago. The bluing was & is still beautiful. The ejector rod is encased under the bbl. and it has factory pachmayrs with the rampant Colt logo. Think I paid about 150.00 for it. .....Was issued S&Ws OTJ in the 70s/80s.

  • @patsparks8731
    @patsparks8731 2 роки тому +1

    Great compilation of a classic Colt. This and the Banker’s Special are personal favs of mine. BTW- the original box with case candy...you featured commands a premium price and collectors seek them out. I think there is a scene in “The Godfather Part II” where he’s showing Al Pacino how to use the Colt in the famous murder scene. If I remember correctly that’s a detective special in that scene as well. I love all the photos you showed and very few know about the Fits special as it is very rare. The first time I saw one I was stuck by how dangerous it was having the trigger guard cut away.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks. Yeah, the Fitz is an insane design when it comes to the trigger guard but I guess it would theoretically get you firing that much quicker in a shootout.

  • @kenboatright9244
    @kenboatright9244 10 місяців тому +2

    Mine is a .32 caliber

  • @chrispena4582
    @chrispena4582 2 роки тому +1

    Good video. I purchased the night cobra just because of the cinematography history of the colt cobra

  • @jonharper3725
    @jonharper3725 Рік тому

    I have my father’s old colt. It was manufactured in 1963 I found out.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  Рік тому +1

      That's the year my two Colt Cobra's were made! Can't remember if I said that in the video or not.

  • @jamesfarmer6004
    @jamesfarmer6004 10 місяців тому

    This would likewise be a fine .38 Special 2" snub-nose revolver for self defense/house protection/concealed carry; it could likewise double as a handgun for hunting small game: rabbit, squirrel,
    and grouse (loaded with .38 Special wad-cutters), especially for the campfire skillet. Same for dispatching vermin such as raccoon, skunk, and possum. Or likewise for butchering livestock such as cattle with a head shot. Even for killing rattlesnakes up close: CC1's classic .38 Special shot or "snake load": No. 9 shot. Next to a .22 or .32 the .38 Special 148 grain lead target wadcutter would be ideal for these purposes. This increases the versatility and utilitarian use of the .38 caliber revolver for not only the homeowner, apartment, condo, or duplex dweller, but also for the outdoorsman/sportsman as a companion handgun for fishing, camping, hiking, back packing, woods trekking, hunting (as a backup .38 during deer and elk season) etc. Yes even a .38 Special
    for a long haul trucker, hay hauler, and for carrying on long road trip. Ideal for both sexes. ---Jim Farmer

  • @richardkluesek4301
    @richardkluesek4301 2 роки тому +1

    Have owned a Cobra and 2 Detective Specials, all with barrel shrouded ejector rods, (post 1973) and all printed groups at about 11 o clock at 25 feet. Know where your sidearm hits.

  • @davidschaadt3460
    @davidschaadt3460 2 роки тому +1

    I have a 1957 Colt Cobra ,identical except it's an alloy frame .Really great gun.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  2 роки тому

      I have a 1963 Cobra! Just haven’t made a video on it.

  • @lloydheinemann9967
    @lloydheinemann9967 Рік тому +1

    I have one from 1951. I'll hang on to it because we were both born the same year! Shoots like new. The gun, not me!

  • @hughmarloweverest1684
    @hughmarloweverest1684 2 роки тому +2

    I have a Ruger SP101, stainless, and put on Hogue grips.

  • @turkey0165
    @turkey0165 11 місяців тому +1

    You forgot to mention the frame. It's made out of steel where the agent and the Cobra are aluminum frames!

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  11 місяців тому +2

      Dang, I own a Cobra (actually two) too so I know that. Can't remember if I mentioned that in the video, probably not since I was focusing one the DS.

  • @bobawful3198
    @bobawful3198 Рік тому

    I would think it’d be easier to fire from inside a pocket without the front of the trigger guard. I could be wrong but it kinda makes sense.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  Рік тому +1

      Seems like it would be easier for getting your finger on the trigger, yeah.

  • @mattMcLovinisbae
    @mattMcLovinisbae Рік тому

    great research

  • @pattreadwell6149
    @pattreadwell6149 2 роки тому +1

    Awsome

  • @coltthank2654
    @coltthank2654 4 місяці тому

    I believe Hackman used a Smith in French connection

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  4 місяці тому

      Internet Movie Firearms Database says it was a Colt as does this page... entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/gene-hackman-jimmy-popeye-doyle-colt-detective-special-38-ctg-revolver-from-the-french-connection/a/997049-1677.s#:~:text=Colt%20Detective%20Special%20.-,38%20CTG%20revolver%20from%20The%20French%20Connection.,and%20dark%20brown%20wooden%20grip.

  • @paullytle1904
    @paullytle1904 3 роки тому +1

    Just fyi your example of the police positive and the "detective special of indiscriminate age" was actually an official police which was a larger heavier revolver.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  3 роки тому

      Dang it. These freakin’ videos are harder to make than they seem. So easy for a mistake to slip through.

    • @davidschaadt3460
      @davidschaadt3460 2 роки тому

      I noticed that also ,you can tell by the way the frame is "scalloped" at the top of the trigger .

    • @patsparks8731
      @patsparks8731 2 роки тому

      @@davidschaadt3460 I think the Police Positive has a lighter Barrell and frame as well.

    • @kevinscott3781
      @kevinscott3781 8 місяців тому

      The original police posetive was on a smaller frame, but yes the detective special was a 2 inch version of that revolver.

  • @vksasdgaming9472
    @vksasdgaming9472 3 роки тому +3

    Quite plain and effective pistol. Every noir-bad guy likes to hold one on their hip aimed at person they want to spook. Certainly not something you just ignore for not being a proper gun like S&W Model 29.

  • @craigrichardson8096
    @craigrichardson8096 2 роки тому

    what year would serial #355957 be from??? Thx

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  2 роки тому

      Not really my specialty but I tried to look it up and that doesn't come up. Maybe it's part of a serial number?

  • @kevinscott3781
    @kevinscott3781 8 місяців тому +1

    Elliot Ness was a fan of the detective special.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  8 місяців тому

      Oh man, great tidbit of history. Thanks.