Painting LARGE industrial warehouse ceiling using Graco sprayer and PPG Dryfall Paint
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- Опубліковано 5 лис 2024
- DIY project recap of painting 12,000 sq-ft industrial warehouse ceiling with Graco paint sprayer. Over 250 gallons of PPG white dry fall paint was sprayed. We did all the painting in only 3 days with very little painting experience. After the ceiling was painted we color coded all of the pipes using the industry standard pipe marking colors. The light increased by almost 25%! This would be a great 5S or Continuous improvement project for any company to complete to improve the facility appearance and safety! Check out how it turned out in this week’s video. If you are thinking of trying something similar check out the items below that we used in this project.
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Just painted 2000sqft ceiling using some of your tips. Very helpful! Thanks
That’s awesome glad it was helpful!
respect to you sires. That added so much more life to that work area especially color-coding the piping correctly.
Thank you! It’s amazing what some paint can do to an area. Employees and other vendors were shocked when they saw it for the first time. Looks like a whole new place.
Nice looking spray job. The color coding always set's it off. We would sit our pump's and a half drum, or 55 gal drum cut in half, on a four wheel cart. For covering sprinkler heads try penny candy paper bags, overlap plastic drapes 6"-12" use bailing wire to " sew " together. Your job looked really nice when complete. Thanks for sharing. John
Great advice, having our paint in a large drum would have been nice to keep from having to swap out 5-gallon pails constantly and the candy paper bags would have been a fast way to drape things. Thanks for the comment!
@finkeunsorted9256 We put our " half drum'" on a heavy duty four wheel cart, with the Graco 45-1 Bulldog airless pump. Spraying dry fog would be dust, mostly, still cover good. You guy's did a good job. Looks nice. Have you done other's? Thanks for sharing. John
What a difference in quality of life for all the employees. Great video, I hope it helps your business, it should, your work speaks for itself. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the comment! Agreed it makes a huge difference. Employees work 12 hour shifts in this area so giving them a bright clean work space compared to dark and dirty one is a huge difference. Thanks for watching and commenting
I use to do this years ago. Having things on the floor to maneuver around eats up so much time! Luckily for me most jobs were new and had few obstacles. It pays really well though!
Agreed 100%, I can only imagine how much faster it would be to paint new construction with minimal prep and few obstacle’s. Definitely would have to charge more for occupied spaces
epic job! congratulations
Ive done a ceiling like that in flat black dryfall, 1 thing that helps is having a 4ft or longer extentsion wand with elbow
Thanks for the tip, I imagine how those would make life painting much more efficient and easier
this is the right way to do a great job! congrats guys!!!
I know it was not perfect but for a big project like this and our first attempt it turned out pretty well. Thank you for commenting and watching
I love dry fall. Just sweep it uppppp lol
Haha, they made it sound so simple, it dried alright but on the floor and not while taking. The facility was air conditioned so maybe would have done better with hot dry environment but I would have thought low humidity would have been the biggest factor
Very useful
Glad to hear that
nice
Man that’s awesome .
Thank you! We were really happy with how it turned out. Looks like a different place.
Hi fella..I'm about to take on a 15,000 sqft unit that's similar. 26ft to roof appx. Similar beams. Empty though and all being painted black (gym). This video might just save my ass from cancelling the project. Doesn't need to be finished to this standard..just good enough to tidy up and get us ipeny
Best of luck! We were amateurs and although not perfect it turned out pretty good. The hardest part I underestimated was prep as we were in oily/dusty environment and wanted to make sure we had good adhesion.
Really great job. Looks like a head melt
Thanks, we were spent by the end of it but definitely worth it. Planning on doing some concrete polishing videos this year so pretty excited to do that for the first time.
Fantastic job sir thank you
Thank you!
Great job, we are going to do it in our warehouse, and got the most equipment from you link. And could you up the link for the extended line in video 6:13 where the gentlemen spray standing in the ground, what tool is that one?
Awesome! Thats great you have a project coming up. Glad you found the most of the products. The pole we are using towards the end we rigged up. We used paint extension pole and then zip tied the sprayer to it. We had to zip tie the sprayer handle which was only bad part so it was not something you could easily stop/start. I think they sell devices that do this but in our case we just rigged something up as we were running out of time and it was quicker to do from floor than on lift. Good luck!
If you remember, What was be the ballpark bid for this job. Im a new contractor trying to dial in. Thank you
I believe we were quoted around $40k which did not include the pipe painting. We ended up DIY which probably was not done as good as a professional but we were able to just supply the materials and rental equipment for around $7k. If we could go back would have used a primer on 1st coat but overall turned out great.
Beautiful. Masterful job. I would love to know the time period from start to finish. My guess is somewhere around 300-340 man hours, but I could be way off.
There were 3 of us that did the majority of the work over a 3 day weekend. Outside of that was the prep work before painting and painting all of the pipes/fire sprinklers after painting the ceiling. I believe your estimate is pretty close when you add everything up.
@@finkeunsorted9256 How did you guys clean the floor ? I saw some suds in the time lapse, I think...
@@theviewless5549 We used Krud Kutter graffiti remover but honestly putting water down and letting the paint soften up worked the best. We had planned to polish the concrete floors shortly after so we were not worried about them too much. I would recommend putting something down if you want to protect floors.
@@finkeunsorted9256 ok cool thanks for the reply. I've just started a company after 15 year of painting experience and might end up doing jobs like this, so I appreciate the video and sharing information.
@@theviewless5549 Your Welcome, Best of luck in your new company!
Iv done this myself .. fire heads are a pain .. im using exterior pearl dryfall for corrugated metal siding .. having dry spray issues .. any thoughts
Dry spray meaning start and stop marks on vertices siding on a lift ? Only thing I can think of is maybe a paint extender or water slow down the dryfall time
Hi, I’m not an expert but would think if you could get extender to prevent from stopping and starting side to side motions and just do one continuous motion with extender that might help.
Nice video. I’m currently painting a plant. My crew and I came in as subcontractors due to the size of the project. We anticipate to be done by Early February. So far everything is going well and we are ahead of schedule. My question is (and if you’re able to answer). Based on the in this video, how (very similar to what we are doing) how do you bid for such project? This is the first commercially project I get my hands on and I have no clue how something like this would be bided. I’m just encouraged to start transitioning to commercial from residential.
Congrats on your project! I am not a professional so I can't help much with pricing. I Was given a rough quote of $40,000 by someone to paint the ceiling but we ended up doing the job internally ourselves which cost us just supplies and rental equipment. The cost to us was around $7000 for the paint and lift rentals. The $40000 did not include the pipe color painting. There were a lot of man-hours so labor is a big factor but I did not keep track of all hours spent on this project. Best of luck with your transition!
I’d highly recommend using a 12in extension on your Gun for a little longer reach and the end usually has a swivel you can adjust to any angle for those hard to reach spots
I agree, i had purchased a 24” extension which ended up being hard to use but I believe like you said a 12” would have made things much easier
@@finkeunsorted9256 a real painter would come in with a 3ft. Production wand with a swivel...l
And you clearly dont know how to spray judging by ypur technique
@@nothingsimpostleble1593 I am not nor ever claimed to be a professional, but I would say doing this project for 90% less than what I was quoted turned out just fine. This is industrial machine shop so doesn't have to be flawless. Thanks for your opinion 🥱
@@finkeunsorted9256 your work was very good and professional and this is coming from someone who paints for my job
what is this white stuff on the floor?? is it paint particles fallen down ???
Yes the paint used for this is called dry fall paint and the idea is it dries before it hits the ground and you can sweep it up. I was not impressed with the drying ability as we had to scrub very hard to get it up.
So glad to come across this video… answered some questions I was wondering about…. Thank you for sharing this… great work and thank you!!
Oh did you have issues with the sprayer running a 50ft hose ?
Glad you like it! Are you planning a similar project? I did not notice any pressure changes using a 50 ft hose and 517 tip. We are amateurs but the equipment we used seemed to work pretty well. If we were doing this professionally, I am sure we would upgrade equipment but for a onetime thing it worked just fine.
How much did you charge to do the job? How much per square foot?
This was an internal job but I had someone quote it at around $40k which did not include the pipe color coding. We did internal job to save money but also work with our schedule since we are 24/7 and rare for us to shut down for more than a day or two. We did it internally for about $7k which was materials and lift rentals but since it was internal labor was already covered. Hope that helps some. If you got any specific questions let me know! The place we were painting was around 12,000 sq-ft.
Roughly what was the price for this with the prep work and all? Curious how to approach bidding jobs like this ... Looks like much more work than just a $per square foot price for the painting. Can you give a rough estimate of how you bid the job and the work /price done for the bidding process.
Great job not only on the ceiling, but the video too!
Hi, We were doing this job internally but I did have the painting bid out and it came back at around $40,000 (This did not include color marking all the pipes). Doing the job ourselves it cost us about $7000 to rent equipment and purchase supplies but we did not have to pay for labor as it was an internal job. Hope this helps, thanks for watching!
@@finkeunsorted9256 thanks for the info...great work!
In Florida, we're charging about $1.20sft of coated surface for basic interior commercial. Obviously, smaller jobs have a minimum total. I am doing a job right now in a new 8,900sft retail box store buildout that will be dryfall ceiling in white with an off white wall color. Open ceiling will be single coat of white over very clean joist, decking and brand new MEP, and down 3' on the wall (just below the joists). The perimeter walls will start at 17' and come down to finished floor. The walls will be one coat tinted PVA primer and one color coat in low sheen eggshell, sprayed and backrolled. The total flat surface area (ceiling and walls) will be right at 16,900sft (obviously can't calculate all the joist work and MEP, although the MEP in this job is minimal. If MEP and structural work is complicated, adjust price upward accordingly). I am charging $1.19 sft, material and labor, no floor covering other than standard tarp along floor at base of walls while spraying and backrolling. Contractor will do cleanup of dryfall before installing vinyl flooring. Four interior solid wood doors w/steel frames, two exterior solid steel doors and frames. Two 80 sqf bathrooms and one 80 sqf office. It is an open floorplan with modular fixtures to be brought in, so 17' perimeter walls and a few 8' bathroom/office walls. This is a very basic new, dry retail box buildout. Standard new retail/commercial construction. You will need to practice calculating your paint coverage based upon your equipment and painting style; estimating labor hours, and making sure your overhead is paid for. Your mileage may vary. Point in case, I was just told that this same job in the New England area would go right at $24.000, or $1.42 sft. I don't know if that is in the middle of the city or in a more urban area, but I can almost guarantee that it is union wages. This is just us, a small team in Fl, doing dry retail, and not willing to work for free. If you're in a heavy bidding situation, you may need to work for less. We will run two painters and one laborer 6-8 days without killing ourselves, depending on weather and FUBAR's.... Humidity is high in Fl, even in winter, so if we get a couple of days of rain, we may have to hold off on the walls, as the space is not conditioned yet. Good luck!
@@theworldofbs5811 that's a great breakdown. I'm in NJ and sometimes bidding a job you can bid higher than you would because if you're competing with union labor you can charge more than your usual rate and still be lower than union work.
How did you come up with formula to come up with a price...that's the hard part!
Luckily this was an internal job where I worked so we did not have to come up with a quote. We just estimated the cost of the paint, materials, and rental equipment. Labor was included since everyone working was an employee and already getting paid. I had a vendor quote it at around $40k which did not include the pipe color painting. Hope this helps some...
why not use a small extension on the spray gun?
I had an extension but think it was too long, wish I would have had a ~12 inch sprayer to give just an extra amount of reach
Cool man nice profit!!!
What do you used to paint all them pipes? Just brushes
I used small rollers to apply and a small brush to get into tighter spaces and used rustoleum industrial enamel paint. This paint sticks to anything and worked really good.
TO REMOVE IT. WATH CAN USE. ¿ only pressure washer ?
I just bid a 90,000 building today... how much per sq ft did you charge
We were amateurs doing this ourselves but I had someone bid it for around $40k which was a while back so probably more now. That comes to about $3+/sqft
Good luck 90k will keep you busy
if it is new roof deck , no cleaning,too much masking, pretty empty space/easy to drive around
pretty good painter should be able to do 2500-4000 SF a day. I charge $0.60-1 a SF with dryfall and 1 coat (99% of time you can load the paint to cover in 1 coat)
What type of paint do u used sir?
I used PPG drywall paint but wasn’t impressed with its drying ability before it hit the floor. We had a lot of cleanup work and it took months to get most of it up off the floor and around the facility.
@finkeunsorted9256 thank you for the honest response brother Ill keep that in mind Blessings
I don't see any insulation. Did the owners get that done before you painted?
This was an older building. I believe there was insulation above the metal deck we were painting but did not have to mess with it any.
Very impressive, great video! Did you have any bare steel you had to spray? I'm preparing to do the exact same thing at my workplace and was curious if dryfall rusts steel or doesn't bond well without a primer.
There was one spot around an HVAC unit where condensation had rusted the roof steel. We sprayed this with a can of rust primer. Looking back I wish we would have done the first coat is a primer as it produced a much brighter white. The ceiling was dirty even after we sprayed it off with an air hose (Oil residue). The paint still stuck well everywhere and was very pleased but this residue bled through and caused the white paint to yellow some. Still looks amazing but when you look at the area where we sprayed the primer it is a much brighter white. I also recommend doing a small area and seeing how it does for a week or two. I heard stories of the paint initially looking good and then peeling off shortly after. Better to test a small area and find out vs doing the whole thing. Good luck with your project!
@@finkeunsorted9256 I appreciate the advice, thank you!
Could I ask what would just labor cost
per square foot be just for applying paint
Sorry this was an internal job and we are amateurs. I did have it quoted for around $40k not including pipe painting. We did this internally at our company for around $7k which did not include labor. Hope that helps some
how much does a square foot of that cost friend or how much is charged for something over 400,000
I was quoted around $40k from a vendor to do the 12,000 sq-ft space and that did not include pipe color coding. We did this job ourselves and it cost us around $7k (Labor was free since it was employees). The main costs were lift rentals, paint, and paint supplies.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Did you cover the floors?
We did not, we were thinking since it was dryfall paint and was in ac and had around17 feet to fall to dry then we could more or less sweep it up but it stuck to floor a lot. I think running over it with the lifts compacted it into floor. We used a wet floor scrubber and it eventually came up. We were not too concerned since the floors were the next project we were going to tackle.
@@finkeunsorted9256 OK thanks for the feedback. I think I will cover the floors in my next project just to be sure
@@sparky9044 I think that is the safe route, will save you a lot of time in case it doesn't dry before hitting floor. Good luck!
At 6.05mins you used an extension set up. May I ask what items you needed for this? The warehouse ceiling I'm looking at doing is 6metres high
Hi, we just used a paint extension pole and zip tied the sprayer to it. The only bad thing was we had to zip tie the paint sprayer trigger down as well. It worked but you could not easily start/stop flow. Not a great long term solution but for a one time job it worked.
Hi I’m looking into getting into this type of businesses, how do you charge for this type of work
Hi, I am an amateur and this was a one-time project. I can tell you that it cost us about $8000 with materials and lift rentals (Labor was free since it was an internal job). I had someone quote this project and it was going to be around $40,000 not including the pipe painting. Hope that helps.
@@finkeunsorted9256 Was that quote you got include primer, how many coats of paint?
How did you find out the sq footage of the building?
I had floor plans but I would recommend a laser measurement tool to quickly measure the length and width of the area.
How much do you charge for square feet?
This was an internal job and we are amateurs so I do not have solid numbers. We did the entire job for around $7000 which was the lift, paint supplies, and paint. I had someone quote and it was around $40,000 which would equate to about 30 cents per sq-ft.
I just opened my painting company, so this will be a big help for me, I m trying to get some comercial jobs..here over Dallas tx area , thanks so much 👍🏻
@@finkeunsorted9256 for amateur did you make a great job!!
@@finkeunsorted9256 man i think we’re wrong! That will be $3.00 dollars a square feet! For 12.000 square feet = $40.000 not .30 cents
@@azul4evermx66 You are correct! Wow don't listen to me or else you will go out of business! haha, best of luck to you and your new business! Thanks for commenting!
How much did you charge for this job?
This was an internal job so materials and equipment cost about $7000. I had this quoted and was around $40k not including pipe color marking.
I’m excited to hear those numbers and I was not the one getting payed lol
Dude you need to add an 3' extension pole on ur gun...makes job easier.
Agreed! Looking back I wish I would have had one for that project
How much for square foot?
We are amateurs and this was an internal job. I was quoted around $40k by a company so that would have been $3.30/sq-ft. Hope that helps.
Fantastic job! And in 3days, what was the cost? From the UK 😀
Thanks! It was a busy 3 days with 3 amateurs but we made it work. Total cost was around $7,500. We needed (2 lifts, 250 gallons of paint, and the sprayers/masks..etc)
@@finkeunsorted9256 did you charged only $7,500? So you spent more $$ in paint gallons than labor? Or am I wrong buddy?
This is done where I work so I was not including labor in estimate, just materials and rentals
@@finkeunsorted9256 got it, it came out wonderful
Thank you!
What about 70 metrs height
How did you clean the floor?
We found what worked best was to scrape off the thick parts of paint and then soak with water & Krud Kutter graffiti remover and mop up. We had planned on polishing the concrete floors at some point so we were not too worried about it all coming up. If we could do again we would have drapes parts of the floor to make cleanup easier
Is the paint a water base or a oil?
It was water based. This is the product we used.
www.ppgpaints.com/products/interior-paint/speedhide-super-tech-interior-latex-dry-fog
so match paint was lost on oversprsying.
We had plenty of spare paint but not enough time so we were going for speed the entire time as we had to be completely done in 3 days
How much did you charge for a job like this?
This was an internal job so we just paid for materials and rental of lifts which was about $7000. If I remember correctly I got a quote to paint just the ceiling and not the pipes and it was around $35-40k
@@finkeunsorted9256 you guys did an amazing job tbh. Thanks for the reply
Thank you for commenting! I was nervous we were going to screw it up being first time doing something like this but it all worked out.
man that is a big job what is the cost for sq footage on a job like this one? can you share some some info for others thanks
Grate video
This was an internal job but I had someone quote it at around $40k which did not include the pipe color coding. We did internal job to save money but also work with our schedule since we are 24/7 and rare for us to shut down for more than a day or two. We did it internally for about $7k which was materials and lift rentals but since it was internal labor was already covered. Hope that helps some. If you got any specific questions let me know!
@@finkeunsorted9256 Hey man thank you for that information I own a small painting business here in central Florida and it is always great to connect with other great people like you who is not shy to help and share information with others. We really appreciate it. You guys did an amazing job. I still haven’t come across with a project like this but this was an awesome video I
Thanks again, our project was difficult due to having to work around equipment and an active work area. If you had an empty building it would be much easier and manageable. Good luck with your painting business and thanks again for watching
@@finkeunsorted9256 how much i should ask for sq foot
@@juan111885 Hi Juan, We are amateurs so I can't speak to what you should charge. This job cost us around $7k for paint and rental equipment but a vendor was going to charge $40k+ if that helps any. A lot of variables to account for in each specific job.
How much do youcharge for the job
I did this where I work but I had this quoted and it was around $40k. I think I completed it for around $7,000 which was mainly lifts and paint supplies.
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Great do it yourself job, but you get what you pay for. Starting with the color, yellow thats supposed to be white.
Now you can really see all those trusses and beams, lol.
Thanks, I agree it could have been done better but our company did not have the budget to get it done professionally so it never would have happened if we didn’t diy. Plus it looked so bad before it could only look better. If this was a grocery store it would stand out more but with it being industrial building it doesn’t jump out.
That gentleman does not no how to use a sprayer gun u don't hold the trigger
Everyone paints differently. Your technique doesn’t matter.
C'mon... they are obviously amateurs and I am sure they even mentioned it as well. They also used Graco DIY toy machines to do an industrial sized job.
But at no cost apart from materials... who cares?!
@@moshesheckel7369 what a stupid comment as well.
Must have taken months
The prep work leading up took about a month as it was just myself but the actual painting took 3 days. The pipe color code painting took a a couple of weeks working on this on and off.
How long did 12K sq ft take with the 3 of you?
I had worked on some of the prep work for a couple of weeks prior but the majority of draping, painting, cleanup was completed in 3 long work days. We got a late start as we had to spend more time blowing off with compressed air in some area that were dirty which put us behind.