TF2s Hacker Problem Is Out Of Control...

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2023
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  • @MrMiguel211
    @MrMiguel211 7 місяців тому +2486

    Aww he still thinks the danger's shield protects against snipers 😭

    • @Sniper_TF2_REAL
      @Sniper_TF2_REAL 7 місяців тому +161

      Lol he hasn’t played in a while

    • @kooz8279
      @kooz8279 7 місяців тому +89

      Dare I say, we must protect Muselk at all costs!

    • @wesselvanharrewijn3082
      @wesselvanharrewijn3082 7 місяців тому +164

      grandpa isnt with the times

    • @Stoneley
      @Stoneley 7 місяців тому +52

      that's actually kinda cute

    • @The24thWight
      @The24thWight 7 місяців тому +30

      It's fucking adorable.

  • @Homerboy44
    @Homerboy44 7 місяців тому +854

    Megascatterbomb managed to get a database of them, a major host got arrested, and another got bored and left.
    The bot users are desperate to ruin the entire game since people have been taking actions against them, passively and aggressively. Keep it up.

    • @apurpledragon
      @apurpledragon 7 місяців тому +53

      Wait a bot hoster got arrested? Who did?

    • @Yousie6
      @Yousie6 7 місяців тому +13

      Any source on the arrest?

    • @Phantom-ws2hj
      @Phantom-ws2hj 7 місяців тому

      @@Yousie6 i think if you just search tf2 bot hoster arrested itll show up. they got arrested for cp or smthing like that

    • @IONProd
      @IONProd 7 місяців тому +85

      @@apurpledragon [ACP] Dashie. He got arrested for having Cheese Pizza

    • @Jeff-yz1wx
      @Jeff-yz1wx 7 місяців тому +26

      just goes to show that bot hosters and cod points enjoyers are cut from the same cloth

  • @PiustheIX
    @PiustheIX 7 місяців тому +1006

    Wait, at the start he put on the danger shield…does he not know that it only gives fire resistance now?

    • @parsakondori
      @parsakondori 7 місяців тому +223

      He hasnt properly played the game since like 2016 cut him some slack

    • @stuff9680
      @stuff9680 7 місяців тому +27

      ​@@parsakondoriNo he played when Jungle Inferno dropped and he uploaded a couple TF2 videos after that

    • @leononline8291
      @leononline8291 7 місяців тому +7

      He knows its just a joke at this point

    • @redtpc8194
      @redtpc8194 7 місяців тому

      @@leononline8291the weapon? Because it’s actually a great way to deal with the scorch shot

    • @acynique8029
      @acynique8029 5 місяців тому

      respect the wwb andrewsarchus profile picture

  • @smaraldus
    @smaraldus 7 місяців тому +779

    Sad to see that Australian servers turned into megascatterbomb harassment squads. Shows that they are afraid of him

    • @Croc971
      @Croc971 7 місяців тому +43

      I play in the aussie severs, i can't go one game without a bot.

    • @ReshyShira
      @ReshyShira 7 місяців тому +65

      I find it funny that the bot hosters are advertising an anti-cheating service.

    • @Kaiserboo1871
      @Kaiserboo1871 7 місяців тому +13

      Why do I get the feeling that the vast majority of hackers and bots on Australian servers originate almost exclusively from China.

    • @TrebleSketch
      @TrebleSketch 7 місяців тому +19

      @@ReshyShiraIt can be both a potential advertisement but also as a way to direct casual players who don’t know what’s going on to harass MSB’s Discord too 😅

    • @SilencePandaa
      @SilencePandaa 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Kaiserboo1871 yeah i hate to say it but even in League you get some Chinese scripters selling their scripts or Chinese boosters selling their boosting service.

  • @nean9894
    @nean9894 7 місяців тому +225

    I know tf2 doesnt change much but man it must have been a WHILE since muselk booted up this game if he thinks the danger shield will save him from bullets

  • @RhythmOSauce
    @RhythmOSauce 7 місяців тому +444

    Didn't know Valve implemented a secret MVM gamemode

    • @cosmo7194
      @cosmo7194 7 місяців тому +18

      Yeah, machine vs machine

    • @menaatefadly
      @menaatefadly 7 місяців тому +2

      You know what an actual fun bot fight that isn't mvm is? Uncletopias 1000 engie servers those are gaddamn fun and can help with sniper aiming skills too

    • @vodkawhisperer3923
      @vodkawhisperer3923 7 місяців тому +1

      Yeah but did you know about real secret endless mvm mode?

    • @banana12216
      @banana12216 7 місяців тому

      Yeah its called a "australian server"

    • @dspeg3095
      @dspeg3095 7 місяців тому

      when i said i wanted a mvm update i didn't mean this :/

  • @Loner_Ken
    @Loner_Ken 7 місяців тому +57

    That Danger Shield equip tho...
    Has it been THAT long since Muselk left TF2?

  • @Coltonfr5
    @Coltonfr5 7 місяців тому +228

    Glad to see you back from your long tf2 break, too bad that tf2 has been overrun by bots for a few years now, us tf2 players have to keep retaliating against them, but most people play casual anyways apart from the newest players. Hope to see more tf2 content soon, love your stuff.

  • @fireclaw9602
    @fireclaw9602 7 місяців тому +68

    The spiritual successor to 'Muselk vs Hacker'!

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 7 місяців тому +16

    Halloween is truly the spookiest time of the year if stuff like this keeps happening

  • @doestf2videos
    @doestf2videos 7 місяців тому +29

    I can't believe people have to tell new players there's bots, like there's razor blades in candy

  • @joemommaoramma7090
    @joemommaoramma7090 7 місяців тому +39

    hey just a tip, most people blur out the bot's names and links they post so that they can't get any publicity, just a tf2 thing.

    • @DrCranium
      @DrCranium 7 місяців тому +10

      That's a double-edged sword: with blured nicknames other players wouldn't be able to learn the "nicknames to immediately votekick", especially - if the names sometimes change. Same logic (to a lesser extent) applies to links: sometimes it is possible to report hacker to the service that hosts hacker's landing page/channel/server for wannabe-cheaters and get it deleted.

    • @namethefifth7315
      @namethefifth7315 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@DrCraniumexpet it is easy to figure it out. They don't exactly try to hide it

    • @taureon_
      @taureon_ 7 місяців тому +15

      megascatterbomb is an anticheat dev that angered the bot hosters

  • @DyslexicGamer
    @DyslexicGamer 7 місяців тому +43

    You know what's beautiful? Playing on Spineyard and watching the mobster skeletons execute the bots as they stand there and do nothing! Also on zombie mode when there the zombies and if you don't have your melee out they just stand around and do nothing because they can't attack you.
    And to be honest I only had problems with bots at the beginning and at the end of scream fortress this year with 90% of my games being bot free

  • @zvalex3539
    @zvalex3539 7 місяців тому +82

    Come. On. Valve...
    After how many years in development; inserting meme, etc etc....
    Valve please... I can't keep hoping any more when there's nothing to hope for
    Love you Muselk, happy to see you always play

    • @not_arab.
      @not_arab. 6 місяців тому

      Valve:😃👍

  • @timeimp
    @timeimp 7 місяців тому +116

    This is why Community servers are so much better.
    Stick with the community servers Muselk! (And its SO GOOD to see you back in TF2!)

    • @Cracker_Smacker
      @Cracker_Smacker 7 місяців тому +3

      unless you live in SEA then it hopeless the number of casual comunity server is abyssmal and either always full or don't have anyone at all even casual macth making take som time to find a room

    • @Alimarix
      @Alimarix 7 місяців тому +34

      most of the community servers are garbage. toxic admins, laggy severs, paywalled features, bloated downloads, etc. plus they're all hosted by like the same 3 websites

    • @Cracker_Smacker
      @Cracker_Smacker 7 місяців тому +3

      @@Alimarix yeah community server performance is hot garbage

    • @ReiCaixa
      @ReiCaixa 7 місяців тому

      @@AlimarixThe only good Community server is Uncletopia.
      Where the Scouts and Engis are buffed like FUCK without bullet spread...

    • @SaintRedFox
      @SaintRedFox 7 місяців тому

      oh yeah community servers, the same thing valve killed

  • @tayzonday
    @tayzonday 7 місяців тому +140

    This is clearly just Half Life 3

    • @somakrd
      @somakrd 7 місяців тому +1

      alr

    • @Dr.Freeman...
      @Dr.Freeman... 7 місяців тому +1

      Nuh uh

    • @Hussain_144
      @Hussain_144 7 місяців тому +1

      Yep

    • @-YELDAH
      @-YELDAH 7 місяців тому +1

      This ain't it chief

    • @virus0master
      @virus0master 7 місяців тому +5

      Better sing chocolate rain to make the bots go away

  • @SnackGuy2Star
    @SnackGuy2Star 7 місяців тому +22

    Seeing Muselk genuinely playing tf2 again is actually incredibly heartwarming

  • @AlligatorSauce9984
    @AlligatorSauce9984 7 місяців тому +56

    I do really hope these two become a dynamic duo.

    • @menaatefadly
      @menaatefadly 7 місяців тому +3

      I think they have become a dynamic duo
      The old crazy master
      And the young snarky pro

    • @aehrol46
      @aehrol46 7 місяців тому +1

      i would appreciate a Muselk-Tava comeback tbh

    • @HostileMustache
      @HostileMustache 7 місяців тому

      @@aehrol46 now that's a name i haven't heard in years

  • @thelivingglitch1371
    @thelivingglitch1371 7 місяців тому +53

    Hackers deserve their human rights to be revoked. I don’t care, because neither do they.
    I feel so bad for Muselk for having to suffer through this shitshow.

    • @redstonewarrior0152
      @redstonewarrior0152 7 місяців тому +2

      I think they should have their toenails revoked with a rusty spoon.

    • @thelivingglitch1371
      @thelivingglitch1371 7 місяців тому

      @@redstonewarrior0152 That too

    • @thelivingglitch1371
      @thelivingglitch1371 7 місяців тому +13

      @@dedhorse5720 No.
      I’ve lost my patience with hackers.

  • @GIJasonD
    @GIJasonD 7 місяців тому +9

    I wish you would post this on your main page so it could potentially get more views to really help get this problem out there. Absolutely love seeing you back and loving the game again!

  • @-sk8-437
    @-sk8-437 7 місяців тому +8

    it's so nice seeing people go through what we went through back in the darker times.

  • @cheesysealAnon
    @cheesysealAnon 7 місяців тому +9

    There needs to be an unusual sniper rifle skin that is a World War 2 Fighter theme with every sniper/or bot you kill without dying adds a tally mark to the body of the rifle like Aces did when they count their kills.

  • @FaustV1
    @FaustV1 7 місяців тому +22

    I think thats an Aussie problem. I've been playing for weeks now and haven't encountered bots or hackers, seems like they fixed the issue.

    • @ReshyShira
      @ReshyShira 7 місяців тому +16

      This group certainly is, as they're named Megascatterbomb, one of the cheater archival tools based in australia.

    • @the_redpyro4906
      @the_redpyro4906 7 місяців тому +6

      It most definitely is not fixed. Some regions might have less, but even inn USA servers I've run into them multiple times today. Fortunately people are usually good at kicking them so they don't get enough vetoes to take over a server

    • @snaketf2181
      @snaketf2181 7 місяців тому +7

      In Europe it happens but only on Harvest and its not that bad. We get rid of them pretty fast and the other 99% of maps I play on never ever have bots.

    • @xCapetf2
      @xCapetf2 7 місяців тому

      ​​@@snaketf2181depends on the time as well, morning, afternoon and nighttime is hell

    • @feralmonarch
      @feralmonarch 7 місяців тому

      yeah, i occasionally connect to aussie servers and ive only seen bots there

  • @unclemanbun
    @unclemanbun 7 місяців тому +17

    I will always love the Muselk + elmaxo arguing old married couple thing 😂

  • @Sizzyl
    @Sizzyl 7 місяців тому +44

    By fine-tuning your map selection (and also playing on USA servers) you can limit hacker [these are BOTs not hackers btw, there's 0 human input beyond starting a script] lobbies to around 1/5 games. It's been a lot more manageable this Halloween.

    • @MrxD-cg5xs
      @MrxD-cg5xs 7 місяців тому +3

      EU player here, I actually haven’t seen a single bot this halloween yet.
      Doesn’t mean there are none of course, but it is manageable.

    • @enderlp9666
      @enderlp9666 7 місяців тому

      solution to bot problem: become a european

    • @Sizzyl
      @Sizzyl 7 місяців тому +1

      @@MrxD-cg5xs lucky man. I at least haven't seen any while I queue with friends, so that's something.

    • @l_Dash
      @l_Dash 7 місяців тому

      ​@@SizzylWhat about cheaters? There's a LOT.

    • @Sizzyl
      @Sizzyl 7 місяців тому +1

      @@l_Dash it's rare that I see cheaters. so far across all of scream fortress I only ran against 1 set of human cheaters (a 6 stack)

  • @Razcraz_
    @Razcraz_ 7 місяців тому +5

    im glad someone is finnaly covering this on youtube

  • @Zoraxon
    @Zoraxon 7 місяців тому +2

    Big fan of the TF2 content, and the consistent Elmaxo collabs. Fun stuff, wasn't very aware of him beforehand

  • @fifaisscripted
    @fifaisscripted 7 місяців тому +5

    I swear, by now the bots are just a minor inconvenience. The main problem are human cheaters that don't get kicked because the majority of players can't identify them or refuse to listen to the other team

  • @kayoh9364
    @kayoh9364 7 місяців тому +4

    The funny thing is, in the new Zombie mode they barely even do anything. A zpmbie heavy can just walk up and kill them, and a zombie hacker sniper doesnt know how to spit.
    Still gotta kick them or theyll take over though.

    • @redstonewarrior0152
      @redstonewarrior0152 7 місяців тому

      And preferably before the blu team becomes mostly bots. You kinda just have to wait out the wave if that happens and try and kick them immediately when the next round starts lest they go on a rampage immediately kicking whatever poor souls see themselves getting moved to the opposing team.

  • @lightweight-tf2
    @lightweight-tf2 7 місяців тому +1

    When you hit failure, your workout has just begun.

  • @abebutts4342
    @abebutts4342 7 місяців тому +7

    im still amazed he never thinks to just get rid of all those smg's, they might not be worth much but i imagne he could still get some better items for them

  • @irismarin8613
    @irismarin8613 7 місяців тому +1

    The best thing about the seasonal event maps is that when they're up the bots leave all the regular maps more or less alone

  • @NickYea
    @NickYea 7 місяців тому +7

    Thank you for making this video Muselk
    I've been frustrated with Australian Mid-day TF2 casual lobbies for the last 2+ weeks
    I want to do my halloween contracts, but cant
    The only playable time is weekened days now.
    There seems to be no real discussion about this that I could find
    I went to a bunch of community forums and no-one seems to care much
    the way it is I guess

  • @georgemccartney8906
    @georgemccartney8906 2 місяці тому +1

    From what I've seen so far, the best strategies are either sentry spams or splash damage from explosions

  • @TBF2001
    @TBF2001 7 місяців тому +100

    The bot coding isn’t necessarily bad, the issue is decay because there are multiple bots running on one machine

    • @Sniper_TF2_REAL
      @Sniper_TF2_REAL 7 місяців тому +27

      Yeah, this guy is a botter

    • @D-S-G.
      @D-S-G. 7 місяців тому

      @@Sniper_TF2_REAL 💀

    • @CannyBow
      @CannyBow 7 місяців тому +32

      knowing how bots and servers work doesnt necessarily mean they are a bot host

    • @Sniper_TF2_REAL
      @Sniper_TF2_REAL 7 місяців тому +2

      @@CannyBow it’s a joke lol

    • @Justin-rt7yp
      @Justin-rt7yp 7 місяців тому +1

      There trash

  • @greasehardbody4018
    @greasehardbody4018 7 місяців тому +11

    I appreciate you still railing on Valve for this. What they've done to this game is disgusting-hearing from a UA-camr who hasn't forgotten that is a welcome dose of sanity.

  • @hoopa8932
    @hoopa8932 7 місяців тому +1

    Take a shot every time muselk says “FAR OUT!”

  • @komi_shouko_
    @komi_shouko_ 6 місяців тому +2

    Now on casual, 2fort is full of hacker snipers no matter how many time you join in…

  • @TheRealFizzarolli
    @TheRealFizzarolli 7 місяців тому +1

    this started happening the other day for me. servers filling up with sniper bots. ours were called something about cupcakes and pinkypie

  • @ShannonMC103
    @ShannonMC103 7 місяців тому +6

    FINALLY more TF2 Muselk lessgoooo

  • @Catilena1890
    @Catilena1890 7 місяців тому +4

    I quit TF2 and sold off my backpack a long ass time ago because of these hackers. Part of me had considered starting over, but this video has convinced me I made the right decision.

    • @whythehandletho
      @whythehandletho 7 місяців тому +1

      if you do wanna join, dont go on halloween servers and if you are in a bot filled lobby. go engi with a level 3 sentry gun close to the point

    • @Catilena1890
      @Catilena1890 4 місяці тому +1

      @@shawnwilson8289 Yeah I think I spent close to 2 grand over the course of my 7 year career (I made back 3 when I sold my backpack, so I came out in the green) and it just, broke my heart that as time went on, Valve pulled out more and more and I couldn't do anything to stop the bots. I loved this game so much and it hurts to see it in such a sad state.

  • @sirspeedy9006
    @sirspeedy9006 7 місяців тому +1

    I saw megascatterbomb in an uncletopia server once. He was a really chill guy and it was good to see the abuse from the hackers wasn't getting to him too badly. I'm happy to see people like him who have the knowledge, resources, and will to help out our community.

    • @victor-hw7gv
      @victor-hw7gv 7 місяців тому

      Wdym hes chill? He hosts thousands of bot in australia. All tge bots hace his name!

    • @KimvyKinsley
      @KimvyKinsley 5 місяців тому

      @@victor-hw7gv The bots are not his lol

  • @205badger3
    @205badger3 7 місяців тому +2

    I went into suijin server and saw the same thing, full of bots from both teams standing on the point. Degroot keep and mannpower are my sanctuaries from this menace.

  • @unlimited2023
    @unlimited2023 7 місяців тому +2

    And this is after the massive "ban" (It forced every account to have some sort of verification and so on, used to know more about it but have since forgotten the specifics) wave that capped some of the bot crisis. There was also an arrest and some hosts just not doing the verification, etc. SO this is post major bot crisis tf2, unfortunately you can see how much that ban wave did overall. However its much much better than it was during that recent dark time. Megascatterbomb sadly being a newer host should also be mentioned.

  • @Kevbo2040
    @Kevbo2040 7 місяців тому +4

    Poor Muscle K. He's trying so hard to get back into TF2 and Valve's sheer laziness, ineptitude, and greed is just out of control. Makes me feel bad for him.

  • @VaultInteractive
    @VaultInteractive 7 місяців тому +3

    A few times in NA servers, ive had the worst luck and have been in servers with 22 bots. Needless to say its not just Australia.

  • @vin_ty
    @vin_ty 7 місяців тому +6

    Huge respect to megascatterbomb, he managed to get the attention of bot hosters and now they fear him 😂

    • @victor-hw7gv
      @victor-hw7gv 7 місяців тому

      Wdym? Hes a bot hoster, you can see bots with his name in the video.

    • @vin_ty
      @vin_ty 7 місяців тому +5

      @@victor-hw7gv that's what bot hosters MAKE you think. The first major botwaves had fatmagic bots after people started making fake allegations against him. Same with other tf2bers or influencers

    • @victor-hw7gv
      @victor-hw7gv 7 місяців тому

      @@vin_ty i saw proof on discord

    • @KimvyKinsley
      @KimvyKinsley 5 місяців тому

      @@victor-hw7gvhave you even met the real megascatterbomb?

    • @victor-hw7gv
      @victor-hw7gv 5 місяців тому

      @@KimvyKinsley yes, why?

  • @gurpxd
    @gurpxd 7 місяців тому

    its so good to see you again muselk

  • @coralglasses5363
    @coralglasses5363 7 місяців тому

    i saw it happen, one second i was enjoying a spooky game and the second i just saw 5 bot snipers wandering around killing eachother and stuff, it scared me how they would always appear

  • @yeeoof1995
    @yeeoof1995 7 місяців тому

    this whole series is like strange man in a strange land. dude in modern tf2 rockets his way

  • @potatoed2631
    @potatoed2631 7 місяців тому

    I am loving these tf2 muselk uploads, keep it up!

  • @BunoBunArt
    @BunoBunArt 7 місяців тому

    Yep. I’ve been experiencing this. Glad people are trying to stop this

  • @BozoBeatsFR
    @BozoBeatsFR 7 місяців тому +1

    Elmaxo and muselk are going to become one of the greatest tf2 duos. Kinda like the modern star and jerma

  • @RegalRoyalWasTaken
    @RegalRoyalWasTaken 7 місяців тому

    that "FAR OUT" scream is so visceral

  • @Hootinany
    @Hootinany 7 місяців тому +1

    I saw the title and said, “again?”

  • @tango5thetargeted73
    @tango5thetargeted73 7 місяців тому

    and thus, the resistance begins

  • @snya6041
    @snya6041 7 місяців тому +1

    This video is like equivalent to saying the sky is blue

  • @Small_child_punter
    @Small_child_punter 7 місяців тому +1

    I imagine its as simple as removing or autobanning some mechanism in the code that only bots would really make use of. I know theres SOMETHING like that somewhere.

  • @LordRemiem
    @LordRemiem 12 днів тому

    Something I usually do is (depending on the map) putting a sentry in a choke point, spam stickies while hidden... or Bonk and run at them to perform the Home Run taunt :)

  • @davidmacdonald1855
    @davidmacdonald1855 7 місяців тому

    The size of the green line tells you how many people are playing that map? 8 years in and I learn something new about tf2 all the time:)

  • @UrVidaGameMum
    @UrVidaGameMum 7 місяців тому

    Again? Good to have you back Mr. Muselk.

  • @blacklight683
    @blacklight683 7 місяців тому +5

    I got pretty lucky i havent seen a bot yet even after over 30games

  • @humanbeing418
    @humanbeing418 7 місяців тому +1

    I'd like to see him play Zombie Infection mode before halloween is over.

  • @tessfairfield6435
    @tessfairfield6435 7 місяців тому +1

    I commend your sacrifice. I’m just glad to have TF2 muselk back

  • @georgesavvas6346
    @georgesavvas6346 7 місяців тому

    I honestly really like these new tf2 videos, its one of my favourite games ever and it nice to see a community figure return. Thank you!

  • @mooseeggs4199
    @mooseeggs4199 7 місяців тому +1

    Really interesting to see Elmaxo become the new Tava of the current Muselk Expanded Universe

  • @averagegamer8086
    @averagegamer8086 7 місяців тому +1

    I’m happy muselk has returned and is actually having fun, even when there is hackers

  • @alexsp4853
    @alexsp4853 7 місяців тому

    I had a game with 7 snipers yesterday. All players, all of them bad, none of them huntsman. The beauty of the Sniper hivemind, portrayed by human vs the hellspore of a bot collection

  • @skurneha7163
    @skurneha7163 7 місяців тому +1

    it really wouldnt surprise me if there are servers out there that are only filled with bots fighting each other for eternity

    • @shawnwilson8289
      @shawnwilson8289 4 місяці тому

      they don't fight each other anymore, they just try to complete objectives to end the match.

  • @prodstvrfire
    @prodstvrfire 7 місяців тому +1

    this brings a smile to my face, thx muse

  • @jamessimon2002
    @jamessimon2002 7 місяців тому

    The suffering. 😢

  • @Candyskill
    @Candyskill 7 місяців тому +2

    the bots issue will probably never be fixed whatsoever

  • @yourguide0
    @yourguide0 6 місяців тому

    I've seen a bot switch to demo to deal with my sentry

  • @ReiCaixa
    @ReiCaixa 7 місяців тому +1

    Problem is they're starting to crash the servers if you try to kick them.
    Some are crashing the game of everyone in the server, then you re-join and they're still there.
    If you find one of those you're better off stop searching for that Halloween map for the day.

  • @mrstudent9125
    @mrstudent9125 7 місяців тому

    Regular TF2 videos? It's a miracle!

  • @grfrjiglstan
    @grfrjiglstan 7 місяців тому

    Whenever the server I’m on kicks all the bots, I type in the chat: “You’ve beaten them all…for the moment. Now, get to an upgrade station.”

  • @thisismynameucannottakemyn5859
    @thisismynameucannottakemyn5859 7 місяців тому +8

    So far, they are still not to bad compared the programming they had in 2020. The best form of killing them now is through vac medics, soldier and demo combos and engineers, (sniper with machina in a very specific situation). Avoid them at close range, keep at mid range where they get stuck in a state choosing to pull their knife out or their rifle, preventing charged shots. Have at least 4 to 5 engies to circle a perimeter and have them close to each other. (preferable 2 at spawn). Demoman can be used to launch at a point (quickie launcher can be used to launch at point from other side of map bc they don't shoot stickies anymore). Battalions backup is crucial in case you run out of vac ubers and you need to push, and works even better paired with the buff banner if used at same time. Coordination no matter how bad the bots can be are the key to murdering them, Valve may be neglecting us but that doesn't mean we don't have the tools to deal with the scumbags. They feel much worse to deal with now bc most people still after 3 years of bots do not know how to keep track of a vote, call one or even check who is getting voted. In reality tho they don't have the same programming, and have from my experiences and observations anyway, downgraded, they used to shoot stickies and travel more in groups, making them harder to kill, most now roam separate trying to catch people off guard but a good coordinated team can handle it well. Most can't even instant headshot as often as they used to, and only some bots votekick others instead of all, they also list constant disconnect and reconnects before they actually enter the match, giving considerable time for both teams to prepare, and to either kick them, leave, or sit it out, or outright make them easier than an actual advanced mvm match.
    tldr: coordination, communication, and proper weapon loadouts are key to victory.

    • @OryanStargazer
      @OryanStargazer 7 місяців тому +1

      or here me out on this, we dont let up on savetf2 and keep pushing until all the bots are gone. instead of being satisfied with the band-aid fix valve gave us.

  • @mcornthwaite
    @mcornthwaite 7 місяців тому +1

    its not just halloween, its EVERY.SINGLE.CASUAL SERVER, CTF, CONTROL POINTS PAYLOAD, ETC.,,
    We're fucked

  • @timbor3882
    @timbor3882 7 місяців тому

    So i've played like 15 maps this ScreamFortress, and I've managed to find like only 3 bots, nowhere near this amount that I see in the video...

  • @GabrielRighteousJudgeOfAll
    @GabrielRighteousJudgeOfAll 7 місяців тому

    Take a shot every time he says 'Far out'

  • @Berwin1441
    @Berwin1441 7 місяців тому +1

    I thought blud was tweakin, puttin on the danger shield. Its really been a while

  • @Siopc
    @Siopc 7 місяців тому

    this reminds me of the og muselk badwater video against a hacker. Jeez, mustve been 2015 or even before

  • @GamingSpider115
    @GamingSpider115 7 місяців тому

    3:24 not just that, they seem like to be in couraging the situation

  • @sambuck8710
    @sambuck8710 7 місяців тому

    Happens only in sydneys servers. Its been alright in singapore and hongkong

  • @lorenthompson6337
    @lorenthompson6337 7 місяців тому

    best way that I've seen people deal with bots, is drink bonk as scout, and then taunt kill them with the sandman, cause they run up to you and try to melee you (which they can't cause your invincible)

  • @puzzlepuddles6712
    @puzzlepuddles6712 7 місяців тому +1

    it's not a muselk video if he doesn't have 5 whole pages of smg skins AND he chooses to equip the danger shield

  • @jasonmastervoorhess7124
    @jasonmastervoorhess7124 7 місяців тому

    This could happen only to muselk when he's coming back to tf2

  • @HyperEwok1
    @HyperEwok1 7 місяців тому

    Philip K. Dick could not have written a more perfect irony of 'robots on opposing sides ruthlessly kill the opposing humans but don't attack each other'

  • @Boy-si1ty
    @Boy-si1ty 7 місяців тому +2

    muselks back babyyyyy

  • @Slenderr1
    @Slenderr1 7 місяців тому

    Love this tf2 content again I used to watch you years ago when tf2 was ur main game haha

  • @justinwilkinson1140
    @justinwilkinson1140 4 місяці тому

    theres new bots that spys are holding the ambassador and has marasmus skull hat over the gibbus and is an aimbot

  • @Takhooo
    @Takhooo 7 місяців тому

    This makes me so so so so sad man I just started playing again last month and now can't play at all every game trillions of bots.

  • @77Myke.
    @77Myke. 7 місяців тому +1

    Im so glad that I managed to complete all my halloween contracts before the horde of bots in every halloween maps :))

  • @pickloy8045
    @pickloy8045 7 місяців тому

    1:30 I NEVER KNEW THAT

  • @cat_hamburger
    @cat_hamburger 7 місяців тому

    The best way to deal with bots is either a cheater with vacc or if your legit soilder with vacc

  • @akihikosakurai4013
    @akihikosakurai4013 7 місяців тому

    Someone forgot to tell him about the danger shield

  • @MackianoBrayberini
    @MackianoBrayberini 7 місяців тому

    I had to up my ping limit in TF2 to go to Hong Kong servers to avoid this.
    When queueing for casual, in the top left hand corner, click your name, click Matchmaking settings, and increase your ping limit. Then cross your fingers and deal with the bad ping. That's the best I got atm.

  • @billnye7323
    @billnye7323 7 місяців тому +1

    This is why I only play 24hr Community 2fort and Turbine servers.

  • @burtenplays
    @burtenplays 7 місяців тому

    Its definitely better than a few years ago especially since both teams can vote at the same time now. Not saying its fixed, its obviously not, but improved. In regular maps I hardly see em but for whatever reason the summer rotation and scream fortress were swamped with em so I just played the regular maps.

  • @NPCInsanity
    @NPCInsanity 7 місяців тому

    Why did my eyes first gravitate to the name Mönkey in the thumbnail?