Triumph Scrambler 400 X vs Husqvarna Svartpilen 401: Which Should You Buy?

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  • @JamesandRibble
    @JamesandRibble 2 місяці тому +55

    I had a deposit down for the Husky. Then the dealer called and said they had lost the franchise! So I am picking up the Triumph Scrambler on Monday with a new 74 plate on it! It's my first bike, so I'm off the scale excited.

    • @johntheaccountant5594
      @johntheaccountant5594 2 місяці тому +4

      You won't regret your luck ending up having to buy the Triumph Scrambler as opposed to the Husqvarna.

    • @vitalstatistix9050
      @vitalstatistix9050 2 місяці тому +2

      I'm own a 400x and it never fails to just blow my mind! The Husky too is great, but the 400x is just the bike I've been looking for!
      Honestly, one cannot go wrong by picking either 2, they're that great!

    • @JamesandRibble
      @JamesandRibble 2 місяці тому +4

      @@johntheaccountant5594 it was all down to luck really. The Scrambler was my first choice but when I originally enquired, was told I would have quite a wait and the speed 400 seemed a little small. After losing the Husky, and with no other Husky dealers anywhere near me, I went back to Destination Triumph who said a green Scrambler had just come in and wasn't allocated and I could have it. Funny how things work out

    • @robbieracer3294
      @robbieracer3294 2 місяці тому

      How much was it out the door? Better price than what the Husky was?​@@JamesandRibble

    • @JamesandRibble
      @JamesandRibble 2 місяці тому

      @@robbieracer3294 no, the Husky has £500 off at the moment, funded by the manufacturer. I'm paying full whack for the scrambler.

  • @johntheaccountant5594
    @johntheaccountant5594 2 місяці тому +48

    Score card should be for each category 1 to 5 as opposed to 0 to 1 to get a better bottom line variance.

  • @iansmith237
    @iansmith237 2 місяці тому +16

    Style wise? Definitely the 'pilen and I honestly don't think it's close. Sure, the Triumph has that classic style that we've all seen time and time again but the Svartpilen and Vitpilens are some of the most dynamic and unique looking mainstream motorcycles out there.
    I agree with all the other points though personally I loved how simplistic my Vitpilen 701 was and don't necessarily think the 401s need all that tech.

    • @georgekrpan3181
      @georgekrpan3181 2 місяці тому +1

      @iansmith237 Yes, not even close style wise.

  • @georgekrpan3181
    @georgekrpan3181 2 місяці тому +8

    I like the Triumph but the Svart is on another level. Such an amazing motorcycle for what you pay.

  • @nicholasjarrold8649
    @nicholasjarrold8649 2 місяці тому +4

    Triumph every day but as you said the speed I’m not going off road I’m only using as a winter hack back road scratching perfect bike and will help to keep to the speed limits 😅

  • @In-Marty-We-Trust
    @In-Marty-We-Trust 2 місяці тому +7

    If you forgo ideas of going off road the’24 Vitpilen is way quicker than it ought to be on varying quality of roads. The lean sensitive ABS and TCS together with the Power 6 tires just 👌🏼

  • @MotoRiderTube
    @MotoRiderTube 2 місяці тому +20

    You nailed that conclusion, Bob. If it's not good off-road then just go with the road version. Now make a video between the Triumph 400 and the Vitpilen, it seems that's the real question :)

    • @GurrasGarage
      @GurrasGarage 2 місяці тому +6

      Actually its pretty good off-road, I do it all the time

  • @javiervar494
    @javiervar494 2 місяці тому +2

    I drive a 2022 Svartpilen and I'm very happy with it. The new model is better with a large tank, and equipment is quite enough in this category. Triumph has made a good model but, for me, with 400cc, I prefer the Husky. 17" at front tyre is an advantage.

  • @GurrasGarage
    @GurrasGarage 2 місяці тому +12

    Never had my 2024 Svartpilen 401 cutting out or stalling, seems like an older problem on previous models

    • @georgekrpan3181
      @georgekrpan3181 2 місяці тому +3

      @GurrasGarage My '22 Vitpilen doesn't cut out.

    • @amanzaildar199015
      @amanzaildar199015 6 днів тому +2

      On my svartpilen 401 2020 I changed the ngk iridium spark plug instead of crappy bosch and stalling problem was gone

  • @guzziguy2011
    @guzziguy2011 2 місяці тому +3

    Still prefer the looks of my ‘20 401 than the new gen. Always a hoot in the twisty NC Mtn asphalt.

  • @SkippyTheBeerCan
    @SkippyTheBeerCan 2 місяці тому +1

    I was planning to get the Swart401, but at 6’4”, it wasn’t comfortable for me with the “wings” at the top of the tank, could not comfortably put my legs under them. Got the scrambler 400x and it’s been great for me.

  • @tenispro81
    @tenispro81 20 днів тому

    Didn’t ride Hisky but can’t imagine that the suspension is much better than on the Scrambler400x. The Triumph is a joy to ride. Suspension is smooth AF and it handles so well in winding mountain road. It’s a charm believe me.

  • @JonathanParsons.
    @JonathanParsons. Місяць тому +9

    This is the first time the Svart has not won in the styling dep.

  • @paulcarruthers2431
    @paulcarruthers2431 2 місяці тому +2

    I am after a small bike . Reason i am small . I have back problems due to a bike accident in 1987 still having problems with it . Basically i stopped she didn't. I personally like the triumph to me it looks like a motor bike not a plastic toy.

  • @ishan4269
    @ishan4269 Місяць тому

    I was team Husky and Svart more so, atleast for styling, up until the current 401. They really just relieved their bladders on my aesthetic expectations this time...

  • @asudeno
    @asudeno 2 місяці тому

    Ktm and Husky are rocketing for the last 3-4 yrs, i think i ll choose 401, great video, thx...

  • @david81lop
    @david81lop 2 місяці тому +1

    Many times the specs of the bikes don't count for the final decision. And not even the looks. The person you have selling the bike is the most important. I love Triumph, always wanted to have a Bonny, but I've been put off every time I've gone to a dealership.

  • @akshathmg6897
    @akshathmg6897 29 днів тому +2

    In India the Svartpilen 401,
    1. Does not get the IMU. This means no Riding Modes, Lean angle ABS and Launch Control.
    2. Does not get any accessories anywhere in India so can't get the OEM tail tidy or the slip-on exhaust or tank bags or Ergo seats etc.
    3. Does not get the Pirelli tyres due to some new regulations. It's replaced with a much cheaper (around $200 - $300 cheaper) tyres. Guess what, KTM decided not to reduce the price of the motorcycle despite this huge change.
    AND despite all the above, the Svartpilen 401 actually costs $250 - $300 more than the Scrambler 400 X. Now tell me guys, which is a better deal 🥲

    • @piotrpilinko639
      @piotrpilinko639 4 дні тому

      In Poland Svartpilen has IMU, riding modes, better tyres (although unfortunately with tubes) and quickshifter (which is unavailable in 400X), and 401 is about 450EUR cheaper than 400X (although currently there is a discount 10% on 400X, so it is cheaper than 401). But after checking 400X and 401 I prefer... Triumph Trident 660 😁

  • @harivinayak03
    @harivinayak03 2 місяці тому +7

    Either way, Bajaj wins :)

  • @ogasi1798
    @ogasi1798 2 місяці тому +3

    i don't see them as equal bikes - yeah 400cc but imo it ends there, the husky is just on another level , if it was one or the other there is no way i would buy the triumph- i have to disagree that the husky is a scrambler look hahahaa, it has semi 50/50 tyres but it is about as much of a scrambler design as a bogger - the 400x as a scambler is useless too unless you weigh about 63 kg

  • @vincentp8585
    @vincentp8585 Місяць тому

    The Husky has the aftermarket exhaust. I get that the aftermarket probably will sound better - but I expect that you lose low end torque. You would need to compare a stock bike for a fair comparison. Remus if you want the sound.

  • @grundyman26
    @grundyman26 Місяць тому +2

    i didn't click on this video to watch you pick a bike that wasn't even advertised

  • @bobritter7197
    @bobritter7197 2 місяці тому

    I'd be interested to hear why you think the speed is smoother than the scrambler and if you think the speed would be any good for light off-roading with the appropriate tyres.

  • @MichaelShropshire-zd9cf
    @MichaelShropshire-zd9cf Місяць тому

    Non related bike comparison...what is the brand of jacket you are wearing? Thx!

  • @TheMotoBarista
    @TheMotoBarista 2 місяці тому +8

    Wow, the Husky is $1500-2000 cheaper than the Triumph here in Australia. Also, controversial opinion: the Triumph is ugly as AF. Looks like a parts bin bike... Seriously, black, red, a brown seat and gold tubes - too many colours 🤮

  • @richardwarsinske7064
    @richardwarsinske7064 2 місяці тому

    I think the RE Guerrilla 450 would also compare favorably with these two bikes.

  • @urbanstrencan
    @urbanstrencan 2 місяці тому

    Love the looks of Husqvarna much more ❤❤ and the tech is better.
    Another great video keep it up 👍🤟🤟

  • @Dushyant933
    @Dushyant933 2 місяці тому +2

    Practical utility and looks wise, scrambler 400x is better than svartpilen 401 cause 400x is well finished than 401 and 401 has spoked tube tires whereas 400x gets tubeless tires.

    • @4308top
      @4308top Місяць тому

      nope, 401 is tubeless

    • @DeepakChoudhary-vg2sz
      @DeepakChoudhary-vg2sz Місяць тому

      ​@@4308top Not in my country. You need to retrofit the vitpilen 250's alloys as an add-on for tubeless tyres. Which is 25K INR extra.

    • @skypechess
      @skypechess Місяць тому +1

      @@4308top no, Svartpilen is tubed. The rubber on it says "tubeless" but there is a tube there (ua-cam.com/video/BUS2kRBKkwE/v-deo.html at 1 minute 36 seconds). Vitpilen is tubeless.

  • @jimmydishkawnt
    @jimmydishkawnt 2 місяці тому

    Are both engines really the same? Like parts can be swapped between both bikes?

  • @BishBosh2010
    @BishBosh2010 2 місяці тому +1

    Triumph for me.
    Expensive Remus exhaust on the Husky looks really poor quality...think i'd give that a miss.

  • @vinay4886
    @vinay4886 2 місяці тому +1

    Triumph, for the looks- which I accept is a personal preference…

  • @MrEvhel83
    @MrEvhel83 2 місяці тому +2

    What about Fantic Caballero 500 Rally??

  • @1911doc
    @1911doc Місяць тому

    Did 7000km on my 2024 Svart and not even once had problem with cutting out the engine...

  • @jasonk7072
    @jasonk7072 2 місяці тому +1

    I like both of these but for me it’s an easy choice as one of them won’t involve interacting with Triumph’s truly dreadful dealers.

    • @wl660
      @wl660 2 місяці тому

      Completely opposite of my experience. Triumph (Essex) are great - everything I need of a dealer, sales and service.

  • @ibewscott69
    @ibewscott69 Місяць тому

    All these reviews that i go through never include top speed. Top speed is important for me because i need to commute on USA highways. At least a sustained 80 mph that don't rattle your bones apart. Am i the only one that is interested in Highway performance? I really like the Speed 400 but i think i have to move up to Kawasaki Z500 SE ABS. With the z500 i can at least have enough power to navigate USA highways.

  • @motoadvnp
    @motoadvnp 2 місяці тому +6

    4-2 for Husky ezz.. couse styling on Husky is way above Triumph 😊

    • @MaazAhmed
      @MaazAhmed 2 місяці тому +2

      I think that's very subjective. To me the scram looks far more appealing than the husky.

    • @motoadvnp
      @motoadvnp 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@MaazAhmedagree it could go either way , but for me spoked wheel diff 😊

  • @jamiewhite-fk3kw
    @jamiewhite-fk3kw 2 місяці тому

    My husky has never cut out. Much better ride than the 400x when pushing on also. I tested both and the Svart was better in every way and you can get them for £5000. A hell of a lot cheaper than the 400x.

  • @johntheaccountant5594
    @johntheaccountant5594 2 місяці тому +1

    What about a comparison between the Triumph 400 vs Honda CB300R?
    I am a UK expat that lives in Thailand and those two are evenly matched in price at £3,550 on the road.

    • @georgekrpan3181
      @georgekrpan3181 2 місяці тому +1

      @johntheaccountant5594 I had a CB300R. The motor is way feistier than the numbers imply. I have a Vitpilen 401 now, much better than the CB300R.

  • @constantin1959
    @constantin1959 2 місяці тому +9

    I don't agree; I think the Triumph looks like an ugly little toy. The Husky, on the contrary is a very interesting exercise in styling. Thank you for your video!

  • @ashleyhouse9690
    @ashleyhouse9690 2 місяці тому +8

    The Triumph looks like somebody has sat down an actually designed a motorcycle. The Huskqvarna looks like someone delved into a spare parts bin and just bolted on whatever fit.

  • @konpadelic
    @konpadelic 2 місяці тому

    What kind of helmet is that, the b’ack one?? Triumph all the way

  • @pchow1235
    @pchow1235 2 місяці тому

    Fun fact: Both Scrambler 400 X and Husqvarna Svartpilen 401 are manufactured by Bajaj Auto. Husqvarna owned by KTM and bajaj hold 49.9% stake in KTM

    • @pchow1235
      @pchow1235 Місяць тому

      ​@@Gyvrcrdfutihhuyvthjvvjvjyv do you want more ? Norton is owned by TVS and they are also manufacturing bikes for BMW as well 😅... Royal Enfield bought harries performance .. the list goes on

  • @ricatiman
    @ricatiman 2 місяці тому +3

    With all the well known camshaft issues in the KTM/Husky single...why would you ever consider buying it? The Triumph is likely to have a higher resale value. especially in the UK.

    • @GurrasGarage
      @GurrasGarage 2 місяці тому +6

      @@ricatiman there are no known camshaft problem on these single engines

  • @robbieracer3294
    @robbieracer3294 2 місяці тому

    Thats a damn shame for a small bike like the Husky to have a speed limiter...good lord

    • @TheMotoBarista
      @TheMotoBarista 2 місяці тому +3

      @@robbieracer3294 no, it's a speed limiter you can set yourself in your TFT menu as you are riding. To help stop you speeding in inner city speed limits because this bike will make you want to all the time otherwise 🤣

  • @WazirAziz-g1h
    @WazirAziz-g1h 2 місяці тому +3

    Feel like a biased comparison.

    • @robbieracer3294
      @robbieracer3294 2 місяці тому +2

      Yea I notice he always favors certain models, especially if they are brand new. It's hard to get an honest opinion on certain channels. I stopped watching a few channels because you can't review a bike just from an hour long ride

    • @WazirAziz-g1h
      @WazirAziz-g1h 2 місяці тому +2

      @robbieracer3294 agreed, he's keen towards the British manufactures. I've noticed he this trend a few times.

  • @kens5871
    @kens5871 Місяць тому

    Ktm 390 adventure for the win

  • @petewatson9866
    @petewatson9866 2 місяці тому +2

    Another 7 minutes I won’t get back in life😠

  • @karlwillis5763
    @karlwillis5763 Місяць тому

    RE Gourrilla for me

  • @ThunderApache
    @ThunderApache 2 місяці тому

    The 401 should not be called a scrambler
    Plus it has a tubed tires, in India (but it has adjustable forks)
    Like wtf?

  • @ishan4269
    @ishan4269 Місяць тому

    Husky just hurled an axe on its own feet with that design... One word: Disproportionate

  • @arnohag1
    @arnohag1 2 місяці тому

    Stuff the tech. If you need it then you should not ride. Too many riders rely on tech and not developing their riding skills.

  • @4x4R1
    @4x4R1 2 місяці тому

    Too many colors on the Triumph and the sound of Husky is just bad.

  • @FourIntoOne
    @FourIntoOne 2 місяці тому

    The more I look at the Triumph the more I think it looks just a little bit too "cutesy" a bit Tomy toy........

  • @jeremysmith1969
    @jeremysmith1969 2 місяці тому

    Husky 17" front is an automatic skip because I do some off-road and my 400x 19" front is just about right. Plus it's ugly, but I can look past that.

  • @deveshchaudhary407
    @deveshchaudhary407 17 днів тому

    what is up with the audio.. 🤮

  • @chrro466
    @chrro466 2 місяці тому

    Looks are subjective like I couldn’t have a relationship with a fat girl. The triumph has a classic styling whereas the the husky looks like it was designed by someone who forgot to take their medication.
    The triumphs build quality is in another (better) league and I don’t need an apple air book to tell me what speed I’m going.
    The previous model svart looked much better and I’d have got one if only the engine didn’t sound like a bag of tools dropped on the floor.
    I bought the 400x for commuting and chugging around shit roads and the engine is perfect for this.
    The looks particularly the bloody awful gold forks don’t do it for me but as a machine and for its purpose it’s a good one.

  • @commando1912
    @commando1912 2 місяці тому

    I'm never touching a P'jeet manufactured motorcycles.

  • @after_midnight9592
    @after_midnight9592 2 місяці тому +1

    If I were to buy one, Triumph takes it for the looks alone. Husqvarna is uglier, no way around that. A tablet and a square fuel tank, no thank you.

    • @georgekrpan3181
      @georgekrpan3181 2 місяці тому

      @after_midnight9592 The genius of the Husqvarna styling hasn't dawned upon you.

    • @TheMotoBarista
      @TheMotoBarista 2 місяці тому +1

      @@after_midnight9592 the Triumph is the most ugly parts bin looking bike I have seen. Red, black, brown seat and gold tubes?? How many colours? The Triumph is the equivalent of wearing brown shoes with a black suit and trying to 'class' it up with a gold Rolex 🤮🤮🤮

  • @andrewbecker3700
    @andrewbecker3700 Місяць тому

    The Triumph can be easily modified with a few simple things like exhaust, mirrors and barkbusters. To take on much different appearance. I'm not sure there's much you can do with that abomination of a motorcycle from Husky. It's just plain ugly.

  • @Bugside
    @Bugside 2 місяці тому

    Choose the one that doesn't have an engine from a brand known for chewing camshafts

    • @georgekrpan3181
      @georgekrpan3181 2 місяці тому +1

      @Bugside Not an issue with the 401s.

  • @knackeredrovers
    @knackeredrovers 2 місяці тому

    Sorry, I simply cannot get past the styling of the Husqvarna. It looks awful. I wouldn’t have one if you gave it me.

  • @sileniu
    @sileniu 2 місяці тому +3

    Husqi has ktm engine-> unreliable .
    Triumph is made in india -> meh.
    kinda hard to choose from 2 onions.

    • @joyid
      @joyid 2 місяці тому +4

      If you have thoughts like these, then better don't buy any of the bikes.

    • @aryastorm
      @aryastorm 2 місяці тому

      ​@@joyid ❤️

    • @georgekrpan3181
      @georgekrpan3181 2 місяці тому +1

      @sileniu The bugs in the 390 motor were ironed out for 2019.

    • @Alkumist
      @Alkumist 2 місяці тому +1

      Both made in India

    • @billumandal
      @billumandal 2 місяці тому +2

      Both made in same factory even 🥴😂

  • @SonyaBorges-l7c
    @SonyaBorges-l7c 2 місяці тому

    Your videos are a true art! Every time you surprise me with the quality and depth of your content.🍊🥬🌎