VW Golf GTI Clubsport v Civic Type R v Megane Trophy: DRAG RACE
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It’s time for a FWD hot hatch showdown! Mat’s in the Renaultsport Megane Trophy, and he’s lining up against the Golf GTI Clubsport & Civic Type R!
So how do they compare on paper? Well first up we have the Megane, which is powered by a 1.8-litre turbocharged 4 cylinder to provide 300hp & 420Nm of torque. It also weighs in at 1,368kg.
Alongside the Renault we have the VW Golf GTI Clubsport. It’s hiding a slightly larger 2-litre turbocharged 4 cylinder under the bonnet, but its power output is down on the Megane, with the ability to deliver 300hp and 400Nm. It’s also slightly heavier, topping the scales at 1,461kg.
Then finally we have the Japanese contender - the Honda Civic Type R. It’s got the same size engine as the Golf, and however it’s slightly up on power, putting down 320hp & 400Nm. It’s also the lightest car here, at 1,358kg.
There’s one key differential here though - while the Megane & GTI are automatics, the Type R’s a manual! Will that be the key difference? There’s only one way to find out… LET’S RACE!
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VW Golf GTI Clubsport v Civic Type R v Megane Trophy - which are you choose? VOTE BELOW!
VOTE: GTI Clubsport
VOTE: Civic Type R
VOTE: Megane Trophy
Golf
That guy who voted all:😎
Me*
lol even the horn test is better than the sound check
no shit😂😂
Ooh yes😂😂😂
Just shows attention to detail in my opinion, something the Euro's do very well. Meanwhile Honda/Toyota fit these stupid meep meep horns and old school incandescent bulbs around the car...yuk
just shows how sad the times of exhaust sounds have become
i loved megane and gti horn 😆
A horn sound test is a must for every drag race now 😂
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@@user-ym8ql1nh8z what
Horn showdown Megane vs Golf was needed 😂😂😂😂
2:38 he’s just letting us slowly get used to a horn sound check instead of an exhaust sound check, for when we only have electric cars left🤔
Brutal
😂😭sad but true
Electric cars can lick my bum
Golf still the 🏆🏆🏆
Actually in the future most of the performance EV's will have fake sounds e.G. Ioniq 5N and Taycan.
So there will be a sound to compare ;)
Not telling that I like that more than real exhaust sounds more but it can keept things interesting.
I don't think I have ever seen the modern Renault sport Mégane RS on the roads. It's a shame that buyers have forgotten about Renault in this market, because they have such an illustrious history in the hot hatch market.
Indeed used to be.
@kaakster1 still amazing, the renaults put incredible times on the nurbergring
Well they have made buying a french hot hatch expensive in my country the rs is the same price as a used m2
why have a renault Meg rs when u can get a vw golf gti?
@@pro_rawdogga because a new golf gti is more expensive and only comes in an automatic
That horn test is an instant classic. Please do it for every drag race!!!!!
I feel as if it exposes the cars for who they TRULY are 😭😂... That *CIVIC* hooter literally made me laugh out loud 🤣
@@riversider2506 Meep horn. So sad
🙌🏼
How hard can it be for Honda!?
Let’s see which car has Mat grabbing his belly next time
Nobody:
Matt: 'Ho hach'
🤣🤣🤦♂️Underrated comment.
d o n b a s s
That's hilarious mate🤣🤣🤣
He bri ish
Ho' 'atch
Nobody :
Mat : **LAUGHS HILARIOUSLY AT HONDA HORN**
Hahaha I know 🤣🤣🤣
Why nobody ? I bet a lot of people, including me, were hilarious after hearing that scooter 🛵 horn...
I cracked up 🤣🤣🤣
I laughed so hard when Matt laughed 😂😂
Nobody:
OP: I want attention as well!
Damn that Renault sounds amazing... Also, why did Honda take the horn out of their motorcycles and put it in their car😂
lmao all Honda's use that Horn it's hilarious
@@farhan8905 bruh no wonder nobody moves out the way for such, it sounds like a bicycle behind you 🥴
Since I remember the Hondas have the same horn. Traditional 😉👍
Had a 95 Civic. Same damn tone lol
@@samuelorellana2603 old but gold I guess🤭
His laugh killed me after horn test 😂😂😂
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VW GTI and Megane trophy: *MEAN HOT HATCHBACK HORNS*
Meanwhile, Civic type R: *Teeny Tiny Italian Car Horn*
3:03
Italian horn?
@@dillanhill5141 Yes meny people associate tiny cars with italy, especially the 500 :)
13.6 in the wet with FWD is seriously impressive.
The civic done a 13.6 second time before
Hit brakes on line not after the line😂
@@Im-built-toughgolf is 100+ kg heavier tho
Germany and Japan sided and France beaten. Huh, where did I hear this before
Formula one （doge face）
In 90s Clio wiliams, and peugoet 205 be faster then German car, but now is conversaly :)
'Allo Allo' ... ha ha
Axis tech beats Allies tech again!
Nein
The MK8 golf's have killed every drag race carwow has done. Really impressive
👌👌💪💪💪 VW invented the hot hatch lol
Type r for track
Doesn't really seem hard when they aren't being truthful with their power numbers.
Used to be that I could get an idea of how fast a car is by its power rating, now I gotta watch reviews since the Germans are competing with each other in rounding power down. This practice creates weird situations like the Golf R being faster than the S3 even though on paper they're almost identical. Someone who isn't an enthusiast will be misled.
There should be a standardized way of measuring power, just like there is with fuel consumption.
I would like to see the club sport vs the type r on a track....you know a real test of a performance car.
@@matthewmccullen3317 Type R ist ridiculous, nothing else.
I laughed so hard when I heard the Civic honk 🤣😂
It sounds just like a honda moped.
I laughed when i saw the civic... wtf is that design.
You are easily amused it seems
when?
@@weg5856 Its something new and different. Not everybody likes that boring Golf.
I’m glad you brought up the fact that the Civic has summer only tires. Even the continentals on my CTR are sketch in the rain. I don’t drive it in the rain. And you didn’t get beat by anything Japan! The CTR is built in Swindon!
GTI Clubsport vs Golf R vs Golf GTI (standard)
Would be a pretty useless race with very predictable results
@@CB-sh9zz would more be to see what the difference is than the end result
@@CB-sh9zz
1 - Golf R
2 - Golf Clubsport
3 - Golf GTI
@@CB-sh9zz I’d still like to see this difference between the R and Clubsport when rolling.
@@jryalls probably not a lot, its about 20HP and 20Nm torque in favour of the R and the R has haldex AWD allowing it to put down the power but also more weight.
Lol i was laughing so hard when I heard that honda horn 😂😂😂
Who laughed at you
Japanese brands are like that horn
Beep beep
@@Z3t487 ohh 😂 just because of one mistake and you said my language laugh at me? Hehe sorry bro, but you are the real joke here 😂😂😂
Evo x horn is the same way 😂 makes no sense
That GTI Clubsport is getting stupid fast. In real life, probably among the fastest day to day car out there. Only beaten by its siblings the Golf R, RS3, the A45, and also crazy fast but “normal” BMW 340i.
I’d love to see this again in the dry
Or, you know, with each car running the same tyres 😂
Here we go again 🤦♂️
@@chickeyy1792 Come on man, four-wheel drive is very important for in that wet surfaces Type-R has a very big disadvantage here
@@ahmetakifyorulmaz4876 all of them were FWD... so ?
@@Jr-Cane-Corso Are you sure? As I know Honda is front wheel drive but I don't know the features of new edited version of it
the Honda horn has been the same for the past 20+ years, idk why people act surprised
Not surprising, hilarious.
It's cute
Exactly. I had the same horn if not worse on my NSX. Felt ashame using it.
A drag race on soaking wet track sums up the UK :)
Well considering the grass is parched on the hills near where I live I wouldn't be able to agree ;)
Too funny - it seems like most of their drag races are in the wet. Whenever I see a video with good weather I always think “What is happening over there?!”
Everyone knows that German horsepower is like 1.5 times more than hp from other countries
So true
@@olorb2618 So clueless
@@bongobob7079 its a joke
@@bongobob7079 shut up Bob
@@bongobob7079 They always have at least the Power they claiming not Like the other Brands, thats what he meant.
0:00 - Matt's intro
0:15 - Renault Megane's spec
0:36 - Volkswagen Golf's spec
1:00 - Honda Civic's spec
1:55 - Carwow sound check
3:18 - A plane
3:37 - Drag race 1
4:40 - Drag race 2
5:49 - So then, what exactly happened
6:16 - Rolling race (comfort)
7:30 - Rolling race (spotiest)
8:37 - Brake test
Literally I wore headphones to hear the civic sound
Worst sounding car around.
yeah a shame that limiter, if I wanted a car that sounded like that I'd buy a base 1.5b liter civic
@@geetee4037 i’ve seen worse
Who the hell wanted so bad to hear a civic sound lol ?
@@bacquivaguidelava yeah, electric 🙈
That megane is the only one that realy gives me the old school hothatch feeling.
It's also the best of the three imo. Looks/sound/drive
@@z06dave same here, love to see those litle rockets fly around the nurburgring.
@@z06dave nah it‘s ugly man
@@z06dave shame performance is the worst
@@pvpkng4 you're on your own with that opinion
Before seeing the video: Golf will win
After the race: piece of cake for the Golf!
At least the Renault sounds better than the others.
Renault wasn't built for drag races, around the track it would wipe the floor with the golf
Roll racing was a fight against the civic so no piece of cake there lol
@@spigeo2345 ok dude😂
@@slothymango
He's right though, the Megane _would_ piss all over the other two around a track 😉
@@spigeo2345 megane has better torque and weight numbers so it must win! So shame for megane!
0:17 Can I just say that the engine bay of that Megane looks like a mechanics nightmare. I guarantee you nothing will be easily accessible, even the basic service items.
That’s the French for you 😂
Even the 1.5 dCi versions have that weird engine bay layout, looks messy as hell.
Stuff is easily accessible though. Remove the engine cover out of that Golf and you'll see it looks even worse than the Renault.
can't even remove battery without taking apart the air intake system :D
@@Blubbaization not exactly hard to do
You NEED to do the Golfs 7 R and GTI Clubsport VS Golfs 8 R and GTI Clubsport 😍
The 8 R is gonna win all day everyday that thing is insane VW understates it’s horsepower it would demolish the others
3:03 That civic horn tho😂😂🤣…..
I'm a massive GTI fan and even though the Megane Trophy lost a fair bit, I think it looks awesome 😍
It's so beautiful
The Renault is just ugly and boring 😅
@@larsmalsbender7472neither of the aforementioned are true in the slightest
@@larsmalsbender7472 Boring? You have never drove one if you saying that.
Finally, Have been waiting for you to upload my Megane!
Not the result I was hoping for as the engine actually feels really strong.
Shame about the rain, the Bridgestone's on the Megane are pretty hopeless unless they have loads of heat in the dry.
Is it Potenza’s? If so the Golf has the same tyres.
In my opinion this isn’t really important. The most important is the time on the circuit since these cars are for trackdays
When the tires wear out, just swap them to Michelin’s
@@onelyone6976 ye swapped mine for ps4s'
@@jryalls Regardless, in the wet, it will spin in 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
Everywhere I've read have said the tyres are pretty poor.
From the Golf 1 GTI to The Golf 8 GTI are legendary hot hatches...they never disappoint
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They really buffed the new Golfs'
Nice job VW
From their apparition were good cars
Yeah the golf would've got beaten by a manual in both roll races and the brake test, if the civic was in the middle since it's the most dry part of the airstrip.
@Rally Carrot so you don't know how the airstrip is made?
@Rally Carrot no, no it's not
@@danieljakobsen1289 dude shut up no it wouldn't
Nice race and the most nice vw golf gti clubsport
I own a '21 Megane RS Trophy. Definitely the best sounding of the three, and the best looking. Those VWs are savage as hell though.
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So sad its slower
@@Jack-qq2ni I don't think its purpose was to be the fastest in a straight line, it's a more complete package. The way it goes around corners is crazy.
Sorry the Megane is ugly lol
@@typer600rr Fairly hysterical from someone with a Type R civic as a display pic haha.
Love the megane looks great in person
Best looking hatchback of all time
@@nicolasbocchino3761 GTI TCR looks wayy better in my opinion
The new golf 8s look rather akward
That *CIVIC* is freak'n damn *HILARIOUS* in every single aspect 😭🤣😂..
Im a GTI owner myself, this test just shows real world performance. Not that the civic is not a good performer! Of course it is!
The Civic is a manual, ofcourse it would get off the line slower
@@fale892 its crap
That Civic is a Track record car. Respect is earned.
@@markoblagojevic56 u need reliability too when ur paying that much money right? and u will get it only in that civic and it is a fact.....
Drivers' competence played a lot here , so it is Fairer & More Accurate gauge of a Car's Real World Performance would be having a Same Professional Driver test these Different Cars on the Same Track like the Nürburgring Nordschleife & timed them Professionally! Previous Test had shown that , the Renault Megane Sport Trophy clocked an impressive Track Time due to its Superior Set~Up! 🕯🌷🌿
The tires play a huge factor in the rain, it's pointless to test the cars performance in a pool... These hot hatches are built for pleasure, a car that is pleasing to drive, i suppose that the recipe is, a car that is fast enough, it's lightweight, looks, turns and sounds good. That's called Renault Sport.
They'll never understand it.Once you driven one,you get addicted.Nowadays hp matter and max speed,no pleasure.
@@cxsminel Exactly they care more about 0-60 and top speed which almost any car hits in a daily basis.
One minute in: Off course every fwd car has a diff over the front axle.
I think Matt meant a limited slip diff...
Yeah, having a diff is not really news is it. Fixed axle wouldn't quite work if you wish to go round a corner with your hot hatch.
What is limited slip diff and what is a diff
@@Kronos0999 a thing in the front axle that allows your front wheels to spin at different speed improving handling, Idk if u got the idea, my english is fucked haha
@CT is infant grade content now Thanks. I still don't exactly get 'diff' though.
@@Kronos0999diff stands for differential. A mechanical device that channels the engine torque to the wheels on an axle.
You can have a 3l v6, but if you have it with a manual, a 2l 4cyl with a good auto double clutch, the gearbox will help it a lot, so the engine won't matter that much.
As a Type R owner, I'm both sad and laughing at the Exhaust and Horn comparison 😓😅
2:50 Mat loves the French
Megane is the best looking one out of the three(must I say in my opinion?) . I also have a slight suspicion that the track wasn't evenly wet.
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Going back in time, 18years old, my first car a Golf1 GTI, damn, lot of fun, joy and rush driving that car.
Looking now for a Golf2 Gti for restoration.
did u sell the mk 1
I reckon VW puts more power in the cars then they actually say
Thats true
I reckon it has like around 320 maybe 330 since its keeping up with the civic nicely
I got an cupra 300 it has stock 315 hp 410 nm
The aero plays an important part as well, while Golfs always were fast in straight line, it will get beaten by both the Megane and the Civic on track.
@William Jefferson look up track times, lol
@William Jefferson why are you such an ignorant? What he said is very literally true.
FWD drag race on wet road is totally worthless. Testing which car has the best rain tires. That's about it. If it rains, reschedule the testing for another day.
Testing track oriented Honda and Renault on a standing quarter mile is useless. In Europe there aren't any drag strips really...Honda is much faster (and more important - fun to drive on the track) amd as we can see in real life overtaking situation it will preform better than the Golf.
That's why its real life test of consumer cars not a competition or simulation
Considering this is in england it makes sense to test them in the wet
Its always raining here
Golf gti the best looking there all day every day
Nah, pretty dull looking tbh
@@Ron_Swanson its not dull it's more simple but it looks better than the Megane and the type r is just overdone
@@nathanrogers7887 type r just looks awful
@@Noobletti its not that it looks bad its just way overdone for a simple fwd hatchback
@@nathanrogers7887 it’s dull in comparison. The Type R is extreme, you either hate it or love it, but the Megane is different looking, a bit of creativity in its appearance. The golf plays it safe and to me ultimately, just doesn’t stand out. Prefer the mk7 though
I would love to see all cars going on a dyno after the race.
Especially the golf
@@spigeo2345 Japanese engines generates more horsepower on paper than on a dyno... 🤔
Why ? There are two possible outcomes. VW delivers more than they promise or the others promise to much. But you would see, it's not the case. There is not much difference in horse power, more how it's delivered and the gear set up.
@@joepopes7923 that's exactly why i would want to see the dyno results.
To better know whats up.
@@fj400007 Japanese engines deliver their maximum horse power only in a small tip and they struggle in gear set up and speed.
That face of Matt immediately after losing brake test 😂😂😂 lol
No one works harder than Mat Watson and his team. Top work guys!!! 👏
2:21~ 3:00~
Civic Type R, wild-looking yet mildmannered.
Mildmannered? Not at all.
@@chantalslut
I mean relatively mildmannered and sound-wise. Definitely have seen more literally mildmannered cars and wild-sounding yet perfomance-wisely mildmannered cars around my community.
And still I would have the megane all day long 👌 best looking but would definitely have to get a pre facelift just for the manual gearbox
GTI did really well.
Lowst power but still the fastest
@@Ruudiii it has the same power as the megane
@@scipol89 Power is measured in Hp and Nm. Megane has 20 more nm.
Golf wins for best transmission.
@@Ruudiii Just German things
@@zinotoubal3215 DSG is flawless😏 Except reliabilty issues and yearly oil changes😂
When Mat said "the French are being between by the Germans and the Japanese" I thought he was going to make a joke about the war. I still laughed because my mind went there. Great video thanks mat
I actually really like how the new golf looks
Ikr
A lot better than the standard GTI
It’s the shitty interior that’s the problem! Think it looks good otherwise!
@@beardmechanix1642 Now thats a comment ill never understand
@@ramp7857 what’s there to not to understand? Shitty touch system that freezes and then is a nightmare to reset or has to go back to the dealer? The shitty digital dash and it’s horrific graphics?
The MK7.5 was a classy and timeless interior. MK8 is just shocking!
The rubber def hampered the Civic off the line, that Golf though! Fast AF boi!
Aren’t some people saying it has more than it’s listed HP to be that fast?
Yeah vw is renowned up underestimating power to be fair
Finally, not full german cars only. Good choice Matt 🙏
O mais pesado e menos "torcudo" ganhou as drag e, já em alta velocidade, recuperou terreno diante do Civic. Muito bom!
The Clubsport will easily win this one
Love the look on these Meganes!
and to this day i never honk the type r... just flash couple high beams
This is the better action anyway, i don’t honk my golf either just blinding the driver ahead of me will do
The horn test is my favourite one, please do it more!! Hahahaha
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Its funny the sound of the horn definitely represent it's country of origin 😄 It's just so spot on. Please include this in all drag races from now on 😁
That gti hook up is amazing!
That Honda looks like its spent some time in Halfords discount bodykit section
When it's raining, you should drag race with TC on and see which car puts the power down better with the systems managing wheel spin
How you think they are doing it?
There is also the tyres... The FK8 LE has Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2, which are horrible on the rain.
@@jaaxc1036 like a motorbike, dont take it out in the rain
I would still take the Renault as it's most likely going to be the best fun on track and twisties
you underestimate the type R
@@raneshramachandran8794 yeah i saw it take a fat L
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I agree !
With renault you would be most of thime in service garage 🤣
this channel is just getting better and better xD
Optical is the Megane the best in my opinion
Belle vidéo 👍.
N’oublions pas que la megane n’a que 1.8l de cylindrée, c’est normal qu’elle soit dans les choux, surtout sur les départs lancés. Quand au freinage, les disques rainurés sont généralement les plus performants à chaud, à froid c’est pas les meilleurs.
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Please do more horn sound tests in the future, they are absolutely hilarious and also should be a part of the scoreboard XD
I cant remember when Matt has ever won a brake test😂
I think the extra weight of the golf lets it hook up abit quicker, would have loved to see them all in the dry the megane being lighter potentially could have won in the dry but the manual gearbox of the civic means it’s probably last every time
I love the horn test Matt, I think it should be mandatory from now on.
when mat said that the cars have a diff over the front axle, he means they have a limited slip differential but he didnt say that
Because why would he have to?
Impressive from the GTI! It spanked the Mégane and defeated the Civic.
but civic is all round car, hold the fastest lap time fwd car on nurburgring
Can you make a review video of the Megane trophy please
new golf R and GTI seems to drop all their rivals without beaking a sweat, i wonder if anyone ever dyno'd one of those
.....that´s what I always say - those test cars from VW have always to spread minimum about 10% upward!
I have a mk7 Golf GTI suppose to be running 220bhp. Was running 266bhp on the dyno before it was tuned.
@@CG9446-k3q I have one as well, in the US. I’ve found the same to be true :) I have yet to tune mine but I’ve thrown on a JB4 and some cosmetic mods and it’s even more fun
@@CG9446-k3q Exaggeration is always a UA-cam thing 😏🙃
@@stevenyia2778 why would I need to exaggerate this was before it got tuned 😂😂😂
Magane would have these in the dry. Still holds the record for fastest hatchback round the 'You know what ring!'
Don't think so...
My pov is: Megane 4 RS are built for tracks, and curvy roads, not for straight roads...
Because, it is much easier (Imo) to pump horsepower in a car than to make a stable car at high speeds to save a second or two in corners...
Also, I'm a Renault Sport fan, driving a GT220 model - under the hood is original engine from Megane 3 RS (RS265) but only horsepower is not 265, it is 220
VW always killing it with the Golf GTI!
But the Honda is so much faster and more practical.
@@dragospahontu Did you watch the video ? Lol
@@danielainger 🤣
@@danielainger dude the Honda launched 4 years ago and it still beats these new cars. On a track it will murder the other two.
@@danielainger i don't think he did
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i’d love you to add the 0-60 times when you are giving the stats 😚
Still take the Type R anyday of the week. Much better drivers car and satisfying driving experience overall compared to the other two.
Should swap starting track positions after the first run, put the slowest one in the fastest position etc and swap drivers around that would help to eliminate track conditions, driver talent or lack there of and make things interesting. 😀
Exactly
They should also use GPS to measure acceleration and deceleration instead of eyeballing it
@@amg863 I agree, I'm not sure how they measure the times.
Swapping multiple factors would give no insight, you'd need to swap only one factor at a time either drivers or starting positions
@@slothymango Sam just gave some options that could be done, how they are done is up to them. In any case it's just a bit of fun. Not exactly scientific in the first instance.
I own a Golf 8 GTI Clubsport and just can say, that its so much fun to drive this car.💪🏼🔥
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I'd love to see an in depht review of the megane rs refresh.
F1 cars
The Megane is not the faster in drag race, but in curves with her rear steering wheels !
Trophy for me any day! Just looks so cool!
The Trophy really looks amazing in person 😍
A burnout drag race!!!
I like how everyone says the gti has like 350hp when it's in reality just 307-309hp because they can't understand it's just so fast because of its brilliant gearbox
Problem is when VW claim the R has 320HP when it's actually been tested to have 340HP, people have a hard time believing what they claim for any of their cars now
The megane is built for a tight and twisty track, in a straight line not as good, but on a tight track, it would probably come first, even before the civic.
Can confirm, the Golf GTI CS is absolutely pushing more power than what VW would lead you to believe specs wise, I have a bunch of people where i work bring these in and they are dynoing closer to anywhere between 309-320BHP and 408-426NM which is absurd, but not uncommon on this platform of golfs!
Yea volkswagon underates factory power. What they really do is tell you the lowest number at the wheels instead of the crank. The clubsport basically makes as much hp and torque as a stage 1 gti but not as much torque as a high torque stage 1 file.
The horn test it is sooooo amazing!! Hahahahahha keep this in every test plzz
Lexus LFA vs R8 V10 vs Huracan V10 vs Dodge Viper SRT V10
Damn....that Golf is a near perfect car. Getting one in like 3 months. Can't wait
Would love to see the I30 DCT in this match up
You are always going to have an issue trying to keep up with a dsg box in a straight line. The Type R done well considering it had to change manually.
I do like a DSG box but, manual for me everyday.
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