WHO IS PULLING FOR THE RAT? NOTES: I forgot to correct the Salchow part of M1 when reviewing the vid, sorry for that. It doesnt give you an extra stack entering Passion, it gives you an extra 1 to the cap, so you can store 2. This doesnt change the calcs tho dw. But basically it means ults or Chains during Passion can give her another Salchow without overcapping. Lots of Salchows vs. fodder groups.
A SIMPLE AND STRONG ROTATION: 1. Use all of Jane's passion state to deal dmg (enemy is at ~50% Daze) 2. Swap to off fielders to apply buffs/debuffs (enemy is at 100% Daze) 3. Chain attack back into Jane, passion state is now automatically refilled. 4. Use all of the passion state, all EX specials and use ult as a finisher. Passion state is now automatically refilled. (enemy at ~0% Daze) 5. Start from 1 again :)
@@HamstahFwend I'm not sure what mathematically makes the most sense, but to keep her in perma passion mode for now, I would guess that stunning the enemy faster would be better than to run double anomaly. Since Grace and Jane both are anomaly characters that compete a bit for field time, maybe try Anby for now to see if if helps your combat flow more 😊 So on step 2, swap to Anby and do an immediate stun with two E, then carry Seth's Passive onto Jane with the chain attack
At the start of the rotation when Jane has no passion, should one charge it up then use it all up and proceed into step 2, or start at step 2 to trigger a chain and then fly though the rotation?
Imagine pulling on this banner to get Seth and instead get 9 Anbys back to back. I don't need to imagine it Edit: The Anby counter continues, it's 11 now
Ah dude that sucks! I had Anby at 4/6 already and only managed a 2/6 with Seth and 9/6 on Anby. Not as bad as your luck though, I hope your next pulls go better!
I prefarmed for Jane so I can use her asap. I got her at the cost of nearly all my pulls. It was totally worth it. I have s ranked all shiyu defense, critical and stable, the combat missions with the leader of the lion group, and using her in hollow zero with all onslaught resonia is crazy.
@@techknowIogic Yeah just tried it too, it's pretty comfortable! Who would have thought that only hyper investing in your main carry works so well in this game! I really thought I need to max the supports in my team
That's the comp I use. Tons of fun tbh and you get mad assault, Neko gets her EX, and Seth can pass the shield to either if they're in a pinch. Wish people gave it more of a chance tbh.
Some easy optimization to throw into your routine: Salchow Jump can trigger assault during the move, while her EX and Ult only trigger it on the last hit, if you know this you can prevent 'overassaulting' enemies and wasting a bunch of build up. I've been running her with Seth and an m5 Anby and her maxed out weapon and disorder triggers a plenty, i don't understand why Anby is getting no love from most creators. She is easy to get, easy to max out and weirdly strong for an A rank. Don't sleep on her esp when you don't have the other character that go well with Jane/Seth.
Thanks for the guide as always! I’ll be killing myself trying to run the Ellen Rina comp since I just want to use them. Also, just a couple notes. Nothing is popping up on screen during the stats goal section like usual. And Salchow is pronounced more like “SaoKao,” it’s a figure skating reference. Just thought you might like to know!
always a banger, i like this timing of the vid better than QY too, you weirdly released it just before her release i believe. like i get it you had creator's beta test info but that can always change, so this is reassuring since you released it after Jane is out so all the info should be solid
I got jane after spending all my pulls (unluckily 85 pulls) but then got soldier 11 in the next 10 pull (unfortunately I don't like her playstyle and she is M2 which is annoying) trying to get 1 last copy of Seth but that means I have guaranteed Burnice now which is who I was saving for next.
Aside from that GYAAATTTT!!! she is by far the craziest unit. Like who needs crit? I'm so happy today since i only have like 69 pull and 699 poly. But managed to get her and then got her w engine early 10 pull.
Idk how people are able to both build Jane and Seth istg I prefarmed for Jane and I’m hungering for Character EXP, W-Engine EXP and Dennys. The Rat Woman drained me dry. Especially since I want Caesar too so I gotta start preparing materials for her
Believe the P is for Passive Effect, its when you combine multiple copies of the same W-Engine into 1 to increase its passive effect it provides. All W-Engines you obtain will be P1 so feeding a duplicate of the same W-Engine to another of the same type would make it P2 and so forth up till the max of P5. The M1 is Mindscape of the character starting from M0 up to M6 with duplicates. So M0P1 would be 1 copy of the character and 1 copy of the signature W-Engine while M1P1 would be 2 copies of the same character and 1 W-Engine and so forth. If you are using a non-signature W-Engine its typically referred to as P0. So M0P0 would be 1 copy of the character that is using some W-Engine other than their signature one.
Love your guides Guoba flawless as usual keep it up! So sad that no one is considering the team that I wanted to use …. Qinqii, grace and Jane …. Think I leveled up my grace for nothing sigh
Thanks for the video, Guoba :з Will you do review for bangboos & 3* w-engines in the future? (And respectfully, but who sets up Weeping gemini P5 (!!!) as a base line??)
Well that would depend on which team you're using. But if you use her with Seth and Qingyi or Seth and Grace then probably either Plugboo or Officer Cui would be a good bet
ANOTHER GUOBANGER!!!!!! on the team section (i mighr be asking much but), it would be cool to have some example rotations for dumbasses like me. loved the video mr guoba!!!
Is there any bangboo recommendation for the Lucy Seth team comp? and what build should i put on my lucy ? because my seth already play swing jaze and i don't really know what to put on lucy beside that ... Really like your content thx a lot for the guide really well done
Cui works fine if only because it deals a shitload of damage. Otherwise use Magnetiboo and wait for Baddieboo. Use whatever for Lucy, just stack atk so she can buff Jane further, she'll barely even see play time in this team
So, what's your take about the BP w-engine? For someone who's already taking the BP, but don't see any value in the other weapons, is it worth taking it every patch? Or is there any w-engine actually more efficient?
Hi is it better to summon for burnice or try to obtain jane doe engine or her E1 ? I have grace and rina also i have Seth on E5 and Weeping Gemini on S2? What's your recomendation?
What's your opinion on using Soukaku to replace Lucy? I find Lucy's buff uptime really inadequate without her mindscapes, and Soukaku does offer a chunky 1k buff with a long duration over Lucy's 600.
I just cleared the Shiyu cycle with every node being sub 3 minutes with my well invested Ellen/Zhu Yuan teams. Even if I’m off element, I don’t see how I’ll ever go over 5 mins given the current health scaling of enemies. Soooo…I don’t really need her? Or anyone else for that matter? Except maybe Rina because she’ll be good with the next Electric attacker. Anomaly teams are a luxury that I don’t want to spend money for. I guess Jane is good for F2Ps and Minnows that skipped Ellen or Jane
How is she compared to Piper? Seems obvious she'd be an improvement but by how much? Is it just the extra muliplier for triggering Assualts? In your Qingyi guide, you had a section comparing her and Anby directly since they were the same archetype. This could benefit this guide as well since its the same situation.
They are not even in the same stratosphere, Piper is dogwater compared to Jane. The distance between Jane and Piper is like 5x larger than the distance between Qingyi and Anby. Playstyle, ease of use, anomaly buildup rate, damage floor, ceiling, it's borderline unfair to compare them. And I had mine well built, I essentially just gave Jane my Piper discs and will never use the latter again lol
Ive seen mentions of full PEN Ratio Jane float around, utilizing Grace Engine, Seth and M1 Rina as supports as well as using 2 piece PEN Ratio Set and PEN Disc 5. However I'm not able to find any of the calculations and I'm not in the sauce enough to do them myself. Could you take a look, based Guoba? I'd love to be given a reason not to pull on the WEngine.
I think burst is when you go into the state to actually deal some damage and standard is when you’re setting up her anomaly, and just rotating through characters for all buffs etc.
Standard is when fighting small ennemies when you dont wanna use all your resources, burst is when example u stun the boss and now u gotta dish out every inch of damage in a short timeframe and use all of your energy,passion etc
8:12 sadly it only gives one more empty circle for the spin attack; you only get 1 spin attack per passion state entered as it says on her basic skill i think, so you can hold 2 but you need to enter passion state 2 times; its useful if you just kill mobs with chain/dash attacks and keep the spin for the next elites, otherwise i dont think it has any real value
What goes with Jane/Neko? Seth would give buff to Neko. What's the order for that Jane/Neko team? Do I drop Grace in 3rd slot instead of Seth? Sokaku/Jane/Seth is also interesting, Jane gets an atk buff and AP when you shuffle forward and back teammates. Thanks for the video!
Should I pull for her? I am still saving for Miyabi but I didn't expect Jane to pull out high numbers, and I kind of like nukers. I have around 60 pulls to my name and no pity
I have Koleda m1 and her s engine so I am interested in using her, at the moment I've been using Rina and not really enjoying it. My only concern is that Koledas buff wont go off with this comp.
What about running opposite element disc drives for disorder team? Like electric four piece on a team with Grace, so she gets buffed by the shock anomalies?
Shit did I forget them again. Should be Cui/Revolver/Plugboo I believe depending on your team, Carry / Disorder, as well as what anomaly you need help with.
Quick question Lord Guoba. If running Seth with Jane, should I be aiming for 320 ap and pumping the rest of the sub stats into atk%? Slightly confused atm on what an ideal stat distribution looks like (should I just give up atk% to hit the 420 threshold purely from stats, ignoring seths buff?)
just lost 50-50 to my 3rd grace, then got jane in the next 10 pull lol. pretty much maxed out my seth cinema, and i'll be waiting for burnice next to complete the disorder team ~
Considering that I've been blursed by Rina C1 AND Grace C1, who cleared previous Shiyu Defence at S rank up to floor 6, and A rank on Floor 7, I will the rat. I will absolutely the rat! And who cares about "clunky", if I can just do the funny beeg numbers!
Was it really clunky? I had my Rina and Grace built. I was doing triple disorder in a row with that team. my qingyi is saved with Zhu yuan to Max boost her ULT in the Stun phase with nicole. the quicjk swapping wasn't that painful and instead was really fun. 70% on field with jane doe and 30% Rina and grace appears to drop some Electric anomaly and pen buff. I don't know about Seth Tho. is he really necessary for jane doe? is it just for the defense assist?
@@pretty.billy. how different is the gameplay with seth? I have tried. Jane-Qingyi-Grace is great because of the stun boost. but I can't really see how much Seth an upgrade for the team would be. I'm not sure if I'm up to spend a lot more resources again.
Many seem to slap in Koleda anywhere as a stunner without her core skill active, wouldn't a good team be Jane, Grace & Koleda? Or would the addition of fire into the phys/lightning mix be bad? At least they'd all have their core skills active.
Is getting her to 2.5~2.7k ATK only possible through using an ATK% main stat disk? All other stats on my Jane are ideal but I can't get her to go past 2.1k unless I use a main stat disk, which then negatively affects her Anomaly stats. Of course my substat luck is atrocious, but even then...
Wouldn't Anby be better than Qingyi since she can apply stun very fast and requires minimal field-time, thus letting Jane have more assaults made overall, or does the stun multiplier add that much to damage?
I use her in my Main Team with Lycaon and Corin. I use her to get of a fast Assault Proc, that boosts Lycaons Daze and Corins Damage with 4piece Physical set. Then Lycaon daze in a few hits and puts the Daze Multip. up Switch to Jane and then to Corin for heavy burst damage. If Time, switch back to Jane and try to Assault befor Daze is up. Is it Meta? No Is it strong and fun? Yes
Hey Guoba it would be amazing if you could do a Rina guide as I feel I'm playing her super sub-optimally. Especially focused on her rotation and the best way to keep her buffs up consistently?
How is going to be Caesar King with Jane? Its same element and it seems that Caesar will be able to give attack just like Lucy? Will she be better than Burnice with Jane?
I wonder, I'm pulling and building a team for Jane with Seth and currently have Koleda out of all the recommended characters. Is it wise to invest in Jane, Koleda & Seth for now?
I'm still confused on what's better, I want to optimize my jane and I have physical dmg, and so many people are saying phys dmg is better but now idk, which is better atk or dmg? Shes at 2k atk, 192 am, 455ap
Can we get a manual vs auto chain attack guide? I went with the "if it aint broke, don't fix it" approach but I've seen alot of talk about how manual is better.
Personally I just prefer to bind the cancel chain attack button, it lets you break out of chains if you didn't want them with, as far as i can tell, very little downside besides like half a second where you're checking if you want to cancel the chain or not
@@lrogan4634 I haven't really ran into the issue where I would want to cancel the chain attacks yet, and I have my teams ordered to where I go from stunner to support to DPS. I'm sure I have some room to min-max somewhere, but 1.0 chain attacks are comfortable for me.
So for the 5th slot having m1p1 having ATK% is better than DMG%? So i'm in trouble a little bit, because DMG% can get you a atk% bonus stats, but with ATK% you cant get atk% bonus stat. So which one is beter? Like for 6th slot m1p1 ATK% is better for sure, but i am in doubt about 5th slot. Can someone help please?
As a person with M3 Grace and M2 Jane (I'm a Seth simp and wanted him at M6), imma stick with using them together lol. It's cool that Lucy is so good in a variety of teams,despite being highly slept on at launch.
I lost my 50/50 to Grace and dumped another 70 pulls to get the rat. I really wanna play the Jane, Grace, Seth team. How weak is it compared to the other, better alternative? How would the rotations with this team go? I appreciate any help, thank you.
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WHO IS PULLING FOR THE RAT?
NOTES: I forgot to correct the Salchow part of M1 when reviewing the vid, sorry for that. It doesnt give you an extra stack entering Passion, it gives you an extra 1 to the cap, so you can store 2. This doesnt change the calcs tho dw. But basically it means ults or Chains during Passion can give her another Salchow without overcapping. Lots of Salchows vs. fodder groups.
Me! And to everyone else, may the pulls be ever in your favour!
131 pulls, 25 non-guaranteed pity, and a dream of Jane Doe with her W-Engine
I am
THE RATS ARE WINNING
Already did, Took 156 pulls 😢. No pulls left for her wengine
A SIMPLE AND STRONG ROTATION:
1. Use all of Jane's passion state to deal dmg (enemy is at ~50% Daze)
2. Swap to off fielders to apply buffs/debuffs (enemy is at 100% Daze)
3. Chain attack back into Jane, passion state is now automatically refilled.
4. Use all of the passion state, all EX specials and use ult as a finisher. Passion state is now automatically refilled. (enemy at ~0% Daze)
5. Start from 1 again :)
Huh! I should try this. I was scuffing my rotation by overthinking my swaps to Seth and Grace.
Mr. Pokke reference?
@@jimmyjims3245 yeah I got it from his video
@@HamstahFwend I'm not sure what mathematically makes the most sense, but to keep her in perma passion mode for now, I would guess that stunning the enemy faster would be better than to run double anomaly. Since Grace and Jane both are anomaly characters that compete a bit for field time, maybe try Anby for now to see if if helps your combat flow more 😊
So on step 2, swap to Anby and do an immediate stun with two E, then carry Seth's Passive onto Jane with the chain attack
At the start of the rotation when Jane has no passion, should one charge it up then use it all up and proceed into step 2, or start at step 2 to trigger a chain and then fly though the rotation?
3:02 Negative edge mentioned, instant like
We're making it to EVO with this one
I was gonna say that xD
Never let the meme die lmao
I'm negative edging!
@@talkingtakotaco8611I’m going to Kara cancel!!!
FYI the time stamps don't seem to be finished, for me there's only the introduction and then the passion state until the end of the video
those are the intended timestamps. Jane is just that passionate.
Timestamps on the description is complete. But somehow youtube only recognize 2 chapters
can I have one video without youtube bugging out the timestamps PLEASE
Imagine pulling on this banner to get Seth and instead get 9 Anbys back to back. I don't need to imagine it
Edit: The Anby counter continues, it's 11 now
Ah dude that sucks! I had Anby at 4/6 already and only managed a 2/6 with Seth and 9/6 on Anby. Not as bad as your luck though, I hope your next pulls go better!
I couldn't snipe a Seth, but I got grace and Jane in 60 pulls, so I guess I can't complain haha
Yuhunk about it. Now you can post her M6 nudes on your Interknot profile as a revenge
Yeah I M20'd my Anby and have an M0 Seth to show for it :'D
Just managed this feat, not a single Seth in sight
Finally the guide I was waiting for
I was waiting for this guide cause I’m definitely pulling for Jane
I prefarmed for Jane so I can use her asap. I got her at the cost of nearly all my pulls. It was totally worth it. I have s ranked all shiyu defense, critical and stable, the combat missions with the leader of the lion group, and using her in hollow zero with all onslaught resonia is crazy.
I finally got my 2nd carry for shiyu defense. I might try it now
What team you using her with?
@@dr.stonksakahelth5857 Same! Just cleared all 7 without a sweat, feels good.
@@techknowIogic Yeah just tried it too, it's pretty comfortable! Who would have thought that only hyper investing in your main carry works so well in this game! I really thought I need to max the supports in my team
Same except I was shocked when I get her at 0 pity😅
Now I gotta see a Neko Jane Seth team showcase for a rat + double cat comp
its a blast im using it atm ( but nicole instead of seth )
That's the comp I use. Tons of fun tbh and you get mad assault, Neko gets her EX, and Seth can pass the shield to either if they're in a pinch. Wish people gave it more of a chance tbh.
Some easy optimization to throw into your routine: Salchow Jump can trigger assault during the move, while her EX and Ult only trigger it on the last hit, if you know this you can prevent 'overassaulting' enemies and wasting a bunch of build up. I've been running her with Seth and an m5 Anby and her maxed out weapon and disorder triggers a plenty, i don't understand why Anby is getting no love from most creators. She is easy to get, easy to max out and weirdly strong for an A rank. Don't sleep on her esp when you don't have the other character that go well with Jane/Seth.
Thanks for the guide as always! I’ll be killing myself trying to run the Ellen Rina comp since I just want to use them.
Also, just a couple notes. Nothing is popping up on screen during the stats goal section like usual. And Salchow is pronounced more like “SaoKao,” it’s a figure skating reference.
Just thought you might like to know!
MR GUOBA IS BACK
Finally, correct use of the term negative edge
Mega video as always Guoben.
always a banger, i like this timing of the vid better than QY too, you weirdly released it just before her release i believe. like i get it you had creator's beta test info but that can always change, so this is reassuring since you released it after Jane is out so all the info should be solid
I got jane after spending all my pulls (unluckily 85 pulls) but then got soldier 11 in the next 10 pull (unfortunately I don't like her playstyle and she is M2 which is annoying) trying to get 1 last copy of Seth but that means I have guaranteed Burnice now which is who I was saving for next.
best jane doe guide in youtube .
Awesome as always. I wish you could do a Seth guide too. For some reason I strugle with his combos
Aside from that GYAAATTTT!!! she is by far the craziest unit. Like who needs crit? I'm so happy today since i only have like 69 pull and 699 poly. But managed to get her and then got her w engine early 10 pull.
Omg same I'm so happy, I had only 50 pulls saved.
Idk how people are able to both build Jane and Seth istg
I prefarmed for Jane and I’m hungering for Character EXP, W-Engine EXP and Dennys. The Rat Woman drained me dry.
Especially since I want Caesar too so I gotta start preparing materials for her
Cause we prepared and prefarmed everything
10:09 What's M1P1? Mindscape 1, I get. What's P1? Her signature Wengine?
yeah I don't get what people mean by this either, seems meaningless
Believe the P is for Passive Effect, its when you combine multiple copies of the same W-Engine into 1 to increase its passive effect it provides. All W-Engines you obtain will be P1 so feeding a duplicate of the same W-Engine to another of the same type would make it P2 and so forth up till the max of P5. The M1 is Mindscape of the character starting from M0 up to M6 with duplicates. So M0P1 would be 1 copy of the character and 1 copy of the signature W-Engine while M1P1 would be 2 copies of the same character and 1 W-Engine and so forth. If you are using a non-signature W-Engine its typically referred to as P0. So M0P0 would be 1 copy of the character that is using some W-Engine other than their signature one.
yes sig, because her sig gives 36% dmg so it saturates dmg%. the p stands for phase I believe because when you upgrade w-engines it says "next phase"
Love your guides Guoba flawless as usual keep it up! So sad that no one is considering the team that I wanted to use …. Qinqii, grace and Jane …. Think I leveled up my grace for nothing sigh
Try the team out, sounds like the Qingyi Seth Jane team but a bit diff
@@guobauncertified aight will do then ! Thank you guoboss !!
Thanks for the video, Guoba :з
Will you do review for bangboos & 3* w-engines in the future?
(And respectfully, but who sets up Weeping gemini P5 (!!!) as a base line??)
Dunno, IWTL has a guide out on Bangboos
Its a F2P Weapon
@@guobauncertified thanks for answer. Oh sorry for the comment about gemini, just checked the shop (I thought it was a gacha weapon 🤡
Recommendations for Bangboos? I imagine Officer Cui or Bangvolver would be bis, but what of other elements for disorder teams?
Well that would depend on which team you're using. But if you use her with Seth and Qingyi or Seth and Grace then probably either Plugboo or Officer Cui would be a good bet
ANOTHER GUOBANGER!!!!!!
on the team section (i mighr be asking much but), it would be cool to have some example rotations for dumbasses like me.
loved the video mr guoba!!!
I heard that Attackers tend to have a higher ceiling, while Anomaly require less investment to get going. Is this the case for Jane as well?
Yes she doesnt need ability levels for anomaly DMG (core passive you gotta lvl though)
its joever for me guys😔
i lost the 50 50 to Rina, and my polychrome thinning out
man
same but with grace
same but with... Rina (so same)
I had 32K polychromes, I lost on Rina , but I got Jane on hard pity- down to 15K right now :/
What is the third slot for Neko/Jane? I accidentally got them both to C1 while pulling for Seth (within 30 pulls)
im using nicole as temp filler
Bro I've been waiting for your guide for jane doe since few hours ago!
Edit: I need to learn Negative Edging 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is there any bangboo recommendation for the Lucy Seth team comp?
and what build should i put on my lucy ? because my seth already play swing jaze and i don't really know what to put on lucy beside that ...
Really like your content thx a lot for the guide really well done
this!!!
i also want to know what good bangboo for her, did she still considered NEPS (the police bangboo) or bangvolver (but you need 2 physical)
Cui works fine if only because it deals a shitload of damage. Otherwise use Magnetiboo and wait for Baddieboo. Use whatever for Lucy, just stack atk so she can buff Jane further, she'll barely even see play time in this team
@@hua.. thx a lot for your work, you're the best
only review ive seen so far not putting gemini at the bottom, i don't understand how people aren't using it.
What Bangboos are best? Especially if you are running a team comp like Jane, Seth, Lucy?
Cui would go well there
How many hits does Salchow Jump have? Is it similar to Piper's EX Special?
So, what's your take about the BP w-engine?
For someone who's already taking the BP, but don't see any value in the other weapons, is it worth taking it every patch?
Or is there any w-engine actually more efficient?
Hi is it better to summon for burnice or try to obtain jane doe engine or her E1 ? I have grace and rina also i have Seth on E5 and Weeping Gemini on S2? What's your recomendation?
Quick question about supports, Freedom blues on Jane stack with Seth's debuff? or not?
if you're already at 420 AP before weeping gemini stacks, does that significantly change its value that it'd be worse than other options?
What's your opinion on using Soukaku to replace Lucy? I find Lucy's buff uptime really inadequate without her mindscapes, and Soukaku does offer a chunky 1k buff with a long duration over Lucy's 600.
How do I use the Salchow Jump twice? I can only use it once per passion state still. I accidentally pulled her m1 while pity building for Ceasar 😵
I just cleared the Shiyu cycle with every node being sub 3 minutes with my well invested Ellen/Zhu Yuan teams. Even if I’m off element, I don’t see how I’ll ever go over 5 mins given the current health scaling of enemies.
Soooo…I don’t really need her? Or anyone else for that matter? Except maybe Rina because she’ll be good with the next Electric attacker. Anomaly teams are a luxury that I don’t want to spend money for. I guess Jane is good for F2Ps and Minnows that skipped Ellen or Jane
Jane looks fun and strong. Alas I already have plenty of DPS characters and my heart is set on Caesar
How is she compared to Piper? Seems obvious she'd be an improvement but by how much? Is it just the extra muliplier for triggering Assualts?
In your Qingyi guide, you had a section comparing her and Anby directly since they were the same archetype. This could benefit this guide as well since its the same situation.
They are not even in the same stratosphere, Piper is dogwater compared to Jane. The distance between Jane and Piper is like 5x larger than the distance between Qingyi and Anby. Playstyle, ease of use, anomaly buildup rate, damage floor, ceiling, it's borderline unfair to compare them. And I had mine well built, I essentially just gave Jane my Piper discs and will never use the latter again lol
Would it be possible to use Anby instead of QY? I don't have her so I'd like to know if it would be viable.
thank you so much for this video
What about bangboo? On Prydwen it is suggested to use Plugboo if you have two electric characters.
"I was drinking hot tea when I pulled Qingyi, now my Polychromes are low trying to pull for Jane Doe"... LOL :)
Considering Jane M1R1 and Rina M1R1, what would be the best main stat for Disk 5? PEN% vs Atk%/DMG%?
Ive seen mentions of full PEN Ratio Jane float around, utilizing Grace Engine, Seth and M1 Rina as supports as well as using 2 piece PEN Ratio Set and PEN Disc 5. However I'm not able to find any of the calculations and I'm not in the sauce enough to do them myself. Could you take a look, based Guoba? I'd love to be given a reason not to pull on the WEngine.
What does BURST and STANDARD mean at 11:35
Im tryna know too
I think burst is when you go into the state to actually deal some damage and standard is when you’re setting up her anomaly, and just rotating through characters for all buffs etc.
Based from what ive seen in other vids Burst is your rotation when the enemy is stunned. And Standard is your rotation outside of that.
Standard is when fighting small ennemies when you dont wanna use all your resources, burst is when example u stun the boss and now u gotta dish out every inch of damage in a short timeframe and use all of your energy,passion etc
8:12 sadly it only gives one more empty circle for the spin attack; you only get 1 spin attack per passion state entered as it says on her basic skill i think, so you can hold 2 but you need to enter passion state 2 times; its useful if you just kill mobs with chain/dash attacks and keep the spin for the next elites, otherwise i dont think it has any real value
It's just a stepping point for M2, nothing crazy
Yeah I knew the actual benefit but wrote the wrong thing in the guide lmao, thanks for the reminder, will add it to pinned comment.
Ain’t no way I was just checking if you made a video about her lol
What goes with Jane/Neko? Seth would give buff to Neko. What's the order for that Jane/Neko team? Do I drop Grace in 3rd slot instead of Seth? Sokaku/Jane/Seth is also interesting, Jane gets an atk buff and AP when you shuffle forward and back teammates. Thanks for the video!
Already did, and she marks as my 4th won 50/50 in a row
Should I pull for her? I am still saving for Miyabi but I didn't expect Jane to pull out high numbers, and I kind of like nukers.
I have around 60 pulls to my name and no pity
I have Koleda m1 and her s engine so I am interested in using her, at the moment I've been using Rina and not really enjoying it. My only concern is that Koledas buff wont go off with this comp.
What about running opposite element disc drives for disorder team? Like electric four piece on a team with Grace, so she gets buffed by the shock anomalies?
Whats the preferred bangboos?
wait for baddieboo
Shit did I forget them again. Should be Cui/Revolver/Plugboo I believe depending on your team, Carry / Disorder, as well as what anomaly you need help with.
Quick question Lord Guoba. If running Seth with Jane, should I be aiming for 320 ap and pumping the rest of the sub stats into atk%? Slightly confused atm on what an ideal stat distribution looks like (should I just give up atk% to hit the 420 threshold purely from stats, ignoring seths buff?)
You can still go for more AP. With seth buff included I dont know the exact difference but its good to be safe if his buff isnt up
@@guobauncertified Thank you !
thanks for long anticipated rat guide
DMG% and ATK% or AM, have a feel for how fast she applies
@@guobauncertified alright thanks
Love your zzz and hsr content. BTW do you know wich disk 5 its better for M2R1?
my will to save for caesar slowly being stripped down by the rat
uhhh were there supposed to be graphics on-screen during the stat goals section, i don't see any (10:31)
great and informative video as always!
Nope, but I think Ill add them next time
GOOOO LUCY
Is her signature any good on Grace? I know she's not physical but the anomaly buildup seems pretty nice.
I'm surprised Gouba didn't make a joke about Jane's trailers being absolute peak XD
So, in the team comps section you say Jane/Neko is a viable comp, but who do you suggest in slot 3? Seth or a stunner or support?
just lost 50-50 to my 3rd grace, then got jane in the next 10 pull lol. pretty much maxed out my seth cinema, and i'll be waiting for burnice next to complete the disorder team ~
If I have M1 Rina, would it be better to choose her instead of Lucy in the Jane/Seth team?
any recs for a third team member for jane/nekomata? i'm torn between seth, nicole, anby, koleda or lucy but I'm really unsure
What would be the best disc set for Lucy and Seth?
Considering that I've been blursed by Rina C1 AND Grace C1, who cleared previous Shiyu Defence at S rank up to floor 6, and A rank on Floor 7, I will the rat. I will absolutely the rat! And who cares about "clunky", if I can just do the funny beeg numbers!
Ngl I had them fully built for the team and it was still ass. Jane-quingyi- Seth is cracked and got my best clears and damage
Was it really clunky?
I had my Rina and Grace built. I was doing triple disorder in a row with that team. my qingyi is saved with Zhu yuan to Max boost her ULT in the Stun phase with nicole. the quicjk swapping wasn't that painful and instead was really fun. 70% on field with jane doe and 30% Rina and grace appears to drop some Electric anomaly and pen buff.
I don't know about Seth Tho. is he really necessary for jane doe? is it just for the defense assist?
@@pretty.billy. how different is the gameplay with seth? I have tried. Jane-Qingyi-Grace is great because of the stun boost.
but I can't really see how much Seth an upgrade for the team would be. I'm not sure if I'm up to spend a lot more resources again.
My Jane has 344 AP + Weeping Gemini 168. Is it enough or too much because I only have 25xx ATK?
Potentially a dumb question, what Bangboo do I use for Jane, Seth & Lucy?
Probably Plugaboo, or the NEPS bangboo.
Many seem to slap in Koleda anywhere as a stunner without her core skill active, wouldn't a good team be Jane, Grace & Koleda?
Or would the addition of fire into the phys/lightning mix be bad? At least they'd all have their core skills active.
Is getting her to 2.5~2.7k ATK only possible through using an ATK% main stat disk? All other stats on my Jane are ideal but I can't get her to go past 2.1k unless I use a main stat disk, which then negatively affects her Anomaly stats. Of course my substat luck is atrocious, but even then...
Wouldn't Anby be better than Qingyi since she can apply stun very fast and requires minimal field-time, thus letting Jane have more assaults made overall, or does the stun multiplier add that much to damage?
Thoughts on Nicole Jane seth team?
Should i get jane doe c1 or get her weapon signature?
I use her in my Main Team with Lycaon and Corin.
I use her to get of a fast Assault Proc, that boosts Lycaons Daze and Corins Damage with 4piece Physical set.
Then Lycaon daze in a few hits and puts the Daze Multip. up
Switch to Jane and then to Corin for heavy burst damage.
If Time, switch back to Jane and try to Assault befor Daze is up.
Is it Meta? No
Is it strong and fun? Yes
I lost both the 50 50 and the 75/25 (at 79 pity, like jesus) but she was still worth it. She's so damn fun
Hey Guoba it would be amazing if you could do a Rina guide as I feel I'm playing her super sub-optimally. Especially focused on her rotation and the best way to keep her buffs up consistently?
Lost 50/50 on Qingyi but unlocked Jane Doe at ~5 signal searches so now I can build an assault anomaly team
What does lucy do on the team? I get seth but i dont know how and when to use lucy
does neko-jane work better with another anomaly, seth, nicole, or someone else? i also have soukaku but i don’t think she’ll work
How is going to be Caesar King with Jane?
Its same element and it seems that Caesar will be able to give attack just like Lucy?
Will she be better than Burnice with Jane?
Which bangboo should I use if my team is Jane, Seth and Lucy?
I wonder, I'm pulling and building a team for Jane with Seth and currently have Koleda out of all the recommended characters. Is it wise to invest in Jane, Koleda & Seth for now?
whats the difference in dmg between ap and atk for jane? Currently at 470 ap and thinking of what i wanna raise to play w Jane, either seth or lucy
Maybe Caesar
What's her bis bangboo tho especially on Qingyi, Jane Doe and Seth team?
I'm still confused on what's better, I want to optimize my jane and I have physical dmg, and so many people are saying phys dmg is better but now idk, which is better atk or dmg? Shes at 2k atk, 192 am, 455ap
Will Weeping Gemini work if I run Jane with a stun teammate?
Can we get a manual vs auto chain attack guide? I went with the "if it aint broke, don't fix it" approach but I've seen alot of talk about how manual is better.
Personally I just prefer to bind the cancel chain attack button, it lets you break out of chains if you didn't want them with, as far as i can tell, very little downside besides like half a second where you're checking if you want to cancel the chain or not
@@lrogan4634 I haven't really ran into the issue where I would want to cancel the chain attacks yet, and I have my teams ordered to where I go from stunner to support to DPS. I'm sure I have some room to min-max somewhere, but 1.0 chain attacks are comfortable for me.
So, what's the team that can deal more damage?
So for the 5th slot having m1p1 having ATK% is better than DMG%?
So i'm in trouble a little bit, because DMG% can get you a atk% bonus stats, but with ATK% you cant get atk% bonus stat.
So which one is beter?
Like for 6th slot m1p1 ATK% is better for sure, but i am in doubt about 5th slot.
Can someone help please?
who can i use as 3rd slot for jane + qingyi team if I don't have seth?
What about Ceasar with her recent buffs though? Would she work well with Jane?
with the buffs caesar has in the beta she would work well with everyone and would be the best character in the game
Is Jane-Anby-Seth viable for a team? i have M5 Anby and M2 Seth
As a person with M3 Grace and M2 Jane (I'm a Seth simp and wanted him at M6), imma stick with using them together lol. It's cool that Lucy is so good in a variety of teams,despite being highly slept on at launch.
if i have m1 jane with her sigshould i swap anomaoly mastery for attack, also is physcal dmg or attack better for 5
I would swap for attack yea. DMG for 5
I lost my 50/50 to Grace and dumped another 70 pulls to get the rat. I really wanna play the Jane, Grace, Seth team. How weak is it compared to the other, better alternative? How would the rotations with this team go? I appreciate any help, thank you.