MIKE MENTZER: NUTRITION FOR BODYBUILDING
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2023
- To learn more about Mike Mentzer's life, legacy and teachings, please visit: www.hituni.com/about/mike-men...
In this video Mike Mentzer reveals the role that proper nutrition plays in bodybuilding and health, and also takes a shot at the supplement hucksters that are trying to convince you that the reason you’re not gaining is solely because you’re not using their particular products.
To see more of Mike Mentzer check out these videos by Wayne Gallasch of GMV:
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He really went against the whole industry.. I am so glad I got to hear his side of story. Thank you once more for sharing 🙏🏻👍🏻🇬🇷
Πες τα βρε πατριώτη
@@Lexsoufz και να φανταστείς ότι κάποτε ήμουν τόσο φάν του Σβαρτσενέγκερ που τσακωνομουνα για πάρτη του άμα λάχει.. Πέρασαν παρά πολλά χρόνια για να βρώ την αλήθεια. Γιατί το παραβάν είναι πολύ καλοφτιαγμένο!! Λόγο του ότι πρόσφατα ξαναμπήκε στην ζωή μου η άσκηση με βάρη, άρχισα να ψάχνω περισσότερα πράγματα για την διατροφή, τίς μεθόδους κλπ και τελικά η έρευνα μου με οδήγησε στον τύπο με το μουστάκι που θαύμαζα στα περιοδικά την δεκαετία του 80 και τού 90, αλλά ύστερα τόν ξέχασα για κάποιο λόγο. Η ιστορία των αδελφών Mentzer με συγκινεί πολύ. Να είσαι καλά φίλε και συμπατριώτη.
@@Alex-ew3it σώπα ρε! Κι εγώ είχα ξεχάσει «τον τύπο με μουστάκι» και τον ξανά ανακάλυψα τους τελευταίους 10 μήνες. Ήταν πραγματικά ο ποιο προχωρημένος τύπος της εποχής του. Όχι μόνο έχω κάνει καλά gains ακολουθώντας αυτά που ψαλεί, αλά και τα κόκκαλα/αρθρώσεις/τένοντες είναι πολύ πιο καλά.
@@Lexsoufz εδώ είναι που λέμε "Τυχαίο;;Δε νομίζω!". Εγώ δυστυχώς δεν κατάφερα ποτέ μου να ασχοληθώ σοβαρά με το bodybuilding από μικρός και τώρα πια πέρασαν τά χρόνια, αλλά παραμένω οπαδός του αθλήματος. Εσύ είσαι επαγγελματίας αθλητής η ερασιτέχνης;
@@Alex-ew3it βασικά ούτε ερασιτέχνης θα περίγραφα τον εαυτόν μου. Για μένα είναι τελείως χόμπι κι ας έχω κάνει ένα μοναδικό ανταγωνισμό
made some seriously quick progress thanks to mike's advice
the HIT training routine
Big same, he was def a catalyst for making me take strength training more seriously. I wasnt putting in enough work in the gym, was doing too much cardio and was eating at a deficit because I was scared of fat and wasnt getting gains. Just hired a personal trainer for a month to to expand my knowledge of specific exercises and to check my form. Was formally a lardass but then I got skinny and now im working on getting stacked and thick this year 💪
Thanks to him i went from training 6 times a week to 3 times a week and i am just as big, even slightly bigger. Dude was a genius
Yeah the way he compares weight training to sun tanning made a lot of sense to me. You need just enough for the stimulus - any more is too much.
@@iscream2232 I’ve started to get over the fear of a little more fat.
I completely understand. It’s not debilitating but man is it scary to me. Sure, vain some… but it feels like “no one is gonna believe I workout if I’m just big and not cut.”
But it’s only for a season.
It’s actually harder mentally for me than “having to lift the weights” is.
This is what I learned in school and took with me on my career in Health and Nutrition. Ironically this happens to be just pure common sense. Can't tell you how many bodybuilders I tried to educate on this but was rejected most of the time. Didn't take long to realize that most people don't care about health at all but rather aesthetics. Guys walking around the gym with grilled chicken in their pockets due to fear of losing muscle while breathing. Constant eating will age you dramatically because your system is constantly processing food and never gets to rest.
Thanks bro for your info relating to ageing and constant working of system.
Do you recommend any books about the bodily systems? I’m trying to learn more about them :))
As the years go by, people appreciate Mr. Mentzer's advice more and more!
I am tremendously frustrated that i did not come across this expert in my thirties. I am now in my 40s. I weep for the lost gains of overtraining and under recovering i have subjected myself to.
before taking his word for fact I would def make sure it all lines up with the studies that have been produced
@@aliasjrod I've been following 'build with science' -lately, which supposedly is a training program based on science. And it doesn't quite match with Mike's advice, at least when it comes to training frequency. But personally, I think I might follow Mike's methodology for a while and see how it goes. I find it hard to believe that you would achieve optimal growth with so infrequent training of different muscle groups.
@@j00f I totally agree with Mike although I didn't study other research to compare what is true and what is wrong. What he says makes sense, you just have to look around and try to find some examples in real life to verify his statements. I used to know many people who don't eat like horses yet they are bigger than those who eat like horses. I have seen people who would visit gyms very rarely, yet they were built well, at least not worse than those who spent years in gyms. You can take plumbers as an example, they don't flex their muscles more than what it requires to squeeze pliers, yet they have huge palms and wrists, and forearms. They don't lift 100kg weights to achieve that.
Same! 🙋
Ill avenge you by giving this method life.
Mike was the most articulate bodybuilder. The GOAT.
Follow up, i am now 41. 6lbs up, strength beyond previous plateaus, after 8 months on Mikes HD training schedule.
Congratulations on your progress and thanks for your post!
How's the progress now? I'm turning 28 in a couple of months, and I'm just starting serious weight lifting exercise.
I don't know why but hearing mike speak about this is helping me relight my passion for bodybuilding
Same here
Do it brothers, I LOVE IT. No better feeling than loving the way you look, and being healthy
I KNOW WHY
@@AlexanderPalumbo%1000. Thank you.
I'm so glad Mike is getting the recognition he deserves
He solved the problem of all these so called gurus can explain in 13 min talk, Mike the legend 🔥
I wish he were here today. Such a smart and honest man.
Mike was so far ahead of his time, people back then thought he was crazy!
He was fighting against the pharma jews who injected/invested into puppets like Arnold.
Mike was promotig healthy lifestyle unlike Hollywood hyenas
Mike rational approach does make sense even from the logical perspective.
The eating is the hardest part. The measuring, weighing, preparation, calculating, cooking, shopping, cleaning, packing a cooler if i go out, the chewing (jaw fatigue).....etc etc....
hitting the gym is cake!
It is easy if you do all the work up front! Just create a diet and create the best system for you the first time around, and go off of it for the rest of it. It’s kind of like creating a course and then you can just keep watching it? Hard work up front then it makes it easy to look back upon it
for me planning my groceries is what made it easier, once everything is in your fridge, putting it together is relatively easy!
jaw fatigue 😆 🤣 what the fuck you eatin kid?
For me the hard part is actually eating, I'm pretty active person, but I always been a very minimal eater, only eat once a day and to that very little, now im trying to gain some booty and I just can get myself to consume my body weight in grams of protein, even though that's pretty much the only thing I eat is protein rich stuff, but I find it hard consuming so much though I have to force myself most times, even after being at work all day and very intense work resistance training workouts, or even with cardio, I can't get myself to eat that much
@@GirlyNCute i thought that about the protein as well. a gram per pound is an enormous feat. beyond that you may as well be eating only tuna. i am 220 lbs and was ok with 2500 calories per day and around 140 grams protein per day. i dont know if my gains were ok with it, but thats the threshold that was do-able
Learned a lot these past few weeks, listening to this man.
Always great to hear Mike talk about his passion and he does it so well
I really like this guy so much Mr. Mentzer. From the way he so eloquently explains things to even the urgency in which he speaks. I'm weak right now but over time I wish to become strong using his methodology.
This guy is changing my mind. Never paid much attention to Mike or the Heavy Duty system. 50 y.o now 25 yrs in the health and fitness biz and now I am paying attention.
this guy is something else, im 25, got into fitness at 13... Always went thru the ''raw'' stuff, never used whey protein and this kinda shit. Now, i see why i'm stronger than my friends...!
Same.
I've steered clear of the HIT/HIIT training after seeing Dorian get significant injuries etc.
But I've honestly never really dove into the meat & potatoes of what's behind it.
I've recently heard Dave Palumbo say for the millionth time "I trained low volume, low sets, with high intensity, like Dorian" which Dorian used Mike Mentzer's method of training.
I'm finding myself intrigued by this method of training. I mean it's CRAZY to think Mike ONLY trained for 2 hours a fucking week lol! The intensity is no joke but the results he got speak for themselves!
I'm going to phase this style of training into my workouts & see what my own results are.
@@ClickClack_Bam I also think its more applicable for "older trainees" or those who have had alot of "mileage" in the gym. I competed in OL till I was 35 then PL till I was 41. I loved high volume but my body didn't, was always broken or dealing with some type of injury minor or major. My shoulders are hamburger.
@@ststrength5044 I'm 42 myself. I trained 22 years natty & dabbled in serious grappling etc & about 3 years ago jumped on the gear after, of all things, using Camel Snus fucked my nuts up & shut me down. My test levels weren't even on the bottom of the low end of the scale! I couldn't believe I still maintained the muscle mass & strength that I had with test levels of 220ng/dl!
I'm my head if I'm looking at trt then I'm adding in some other things too lol. Having a great base went really far with taking gear & now I'm kind of looking at trying some things that in the past I've too quickly went past & HIT training is top of my list.
@@ClickClack_Bam well on that note (gear) lol. From 36-41 I was bro cycling (12 on 12 off) superphysiological doses of test (500 a week ) . I went off completely but test levels were in the toilet until 2.5 yrs ago went I had no choice but to get on TRT. I feel much better buts it's not magic but does the trick. I vary the dose sometime I run 200 + a week for 8 weeks then drop down to 100-120 for periods of time. I find still at 200+ water retention is an issue. Lower is better for me all around.
I’m glad I came across him this past summer I feel so late thank you Mike you’ve changed my outlook on nutrition and training
Mike is such a pioneer, with all his knowledge and understanding on the topic of bodybuilding.
The wisdom, honesty and love for others that this man had is from another dimension. Thank you Mike.. we love you.
Thank You Mr Little, If Mike was about today he'd be proud. Amazing knowledge you are sharing and preserving.
I like that you deliberately give credit to, and thank, the photographers of the footage, before any of it even begins. I appreciate it quite a lot. Thank you for doing so.
THANK YOU JOHN FOR SHARING THIS….MIKE MENTZER WAS NOTHING BUT BRILLIANT!!!!!🌟
wow Mike is something special man this is the most accurate logical nutrition speech I ever heard R.I.P !❤
Thank You John. Mike Was Brilliant.
You have to love this. These days people have access to tons of info without constantly doing research. You don’t HAVE to be smart to be great at what you do. Guys like Mike were striving to be masters of their trade. They don’t get enough credit for all of their research and experimentation.
This man was an absolute legend and genius ❤
I hadn't thought of the photographers but yes, thant you to all of them for documenting these amazing people 👏
would love to see more mike mentzer nutrition content.
We NEED Mike's teachings as the main template to bodybuilding and fitness which should be taught to boys and girls starting at the elementary grade schools across america.
I firmly believe children should be taught Mike's teachings starting at the 4th and 5th grade level in all schools.
At that age they won't be able to grasp it all but they will be exposed to it and then for the ones interested they can further their learning of the correct information Mike has supplied us with instead of being bombarded with false information all through their youth and ending up so confused that they don't know what to believe.
They would rather teach them about the 52 genders in school not about being healthy .
They want kids fat and depressed no way would mentzer be in a western classroom. Sad to say cuz your right he should be
@@rampageblackston4926Yup. You hit on the head.
@@nemtall
Sadly, I believe U are right.
@@rampageblackston4926
IMO, Mike's teachings should be mainstream
man is underrated!! NOW I KNOW WHOS THE GODFATHER OF BODYBUILDING!
Arnold, Ronnie, lee Haney and many others before this meth head
Who's the Quadfather?
thank you so much for everything you’re doing John, all these informational excerpts of Mike’s ideologies are literally life changing as to how I’ve been approaching bodybuilding and nutrition the past 4 years
Have you seen growth and progress with Mikes nutrition recommendations over the past 4 years?
Awesome video. He's a mesmerizing speaker that's for sure.
Mike speaks so well. So impressive.
I'm so far down the rabbit hole of Mike Mentzer already. Heavy Duty 1 is still one of the best books I've read
This is great knowledge. He is taking me to the the next level. Thank you for posting this
I love how Mike Mentzer is always throwing shade at everyone. Even vid I watch, he's throwing shade at someone. It's beautiful.
Always a good day when John uploads
A great video as always thank you John
I wish Mike was still around. He was so knowledgeable.
Mike was high key a fucking genius and I swear to god is the most well spoken body builder ever.
I did one warm up moderate set. Smashed some failures on A heavy set per excersize. Somw songle sets no warm up. I feel amazing and threw away trash sets. My joints feel incredible. Im bout to go off this year thanks mike. Rip.
Amazing interview. Such intelligence.
First time I hear this…amazing the knowledge this guy had
This fellow was genius at expressing Ideas and thoughts!
Wow!
Mike Inspired me to start working out again after almost 20 years
This a wealth of knowledge... brilliant advice 👍
This is amazing, thank you so much!!😮
Great edit John little keep ‘em comin.
I can listen to his advice all day.
appreciate the upload
Damn if this guy was still around he would be the godfather of body building. So muck knowledge.
I've been working out for about 10 months and im 12+ up from when I started ahah. Feels good man.
Mike is university
And a rare universal gem
Yep, your body will only use what it needs, to make it grow (within its potential) you create the extra need through presenting the necessary stimulus.
The man was a genius pure and simple
This is insane!
He is spitting some wise things! I’m truly impressed I never knew this, but a part of my mind feels like this is false? I don’t know perhaps I’m brainwashed by other builders, but wtf! This is like a gold mine!
When I started going to the gym I thought that more was always better stayed at the gym for 3.4 hours and over eaten . To the point that I add 18 lbs every week and it being all fat . Once I found mike I was astonished by the way he speaks and explains and got rly into it and loved his style of bodybuilding . Because when I was doing every set to failure and woke up the next day and felt my muscles destroyed me thinking that I did something effective even when I couldnt recover from monday workout in Saturday I still feel my muscles sore
This guys is truly a genius
What a smart person and what body image !! Rest in peace Mike ❤
The ideal program is amazing
awesome content as always
What a great video, mentzer really really had it right to the T. True gem, what an eloquent man
Glad you enjoyed it
Got here from Jeff C @ Athlean-X. Thanks Jeff!
RIP Mike & Ray Mentzer
This information is gold!
bRO YOUR CHANNEL IS LEGEND
What a good edited video 👏
This man was a genius 🧠
Oh the irony of Bill Phillips and his supplements 😆
Great recording thanks.
Thanks for the insight
I been on deployment and only ate food as needed. As they only gave us what we need not more. And when I came back I actually grew more than when I’m home.
Mike and his brother both had excellent physiques
7:41 Excellent perspective
No wasting money and certainly no wasting time. The craft of bodybuilding explained.
Very informative...
The thing about the 1980 Mr. Olympia contest is that it was held during a time where bodybuilding was aiming to be very mainstream. Contracts were being made in the industry, bodybuilders were going to television and Arnold Schwarzenegger was the face of the sport, to the eye of the average american citizen, at least. Not only was Arnold the star who had been the winner 6 times in a row, he was also the upcoming hollywood star that wanted to make it big in the screen. That being said, at the time, Arnold was considered a mediocre actor, with his first critics being very harsh on him, so his muscles, his physique was his main product to sell him as good choice for starring in a movie. So you take that, and you have the sport's biggest name making a comeback during a time he wanted to get big in hollywood: how would it look for Arnold if he lost the 1980 Olympia? Why would anyone in hollywood cast him, a mediocre actor, with a strongh accent whose main thing were his muscles and those muscles didn't even win the Mr. Olympia contest? It would be a disaster for Arnold's career. Then, you add that to the fact that Arnold and Weider were fierce advocates for high volume training and supplements. That made them very good money, and at the time, with very little information around, people believed it. However, there was one specific individual that defied that. One man that went on the opposite direction and said that you actually needed much less training than Arnold and Weider advocated. Not only that, you didn't need the much talked about supplements the industry was selling. That man was Mike Mentzer, the first bodybuilder to ever earn a perfect score. A 5'8 man that held over 100kg of lean mass on stage, a weight that was only matched by prime Schwarzenegger, a man 6 inches taller. Mike Mentzer said Arnold Schwarzenegger and Weider were wrong and he proved it with his very own physique. Who could argue with that? So then you see, the 1980 Mr Olympia was rigged from the beginning. Not only that, the rigging began in 1979, when Zane, a 5'9 bodybuilder beat Mentzer, who was an inch shorter and 45 pounds heavier. You don't hear much about 1979 because it wasn't as outrageous as 1980, but Mike Mentzer should have won in 1979. They made him second because the guy that dared to challenge the norm in the IFBB could never be awarded. That would be the same as admitting they were wrong. And Weider and Schwarzenegger would never do that. But the people caught on and called them out on that. How could the perfect score, heaviest bodybuilder on stage be second? So, in 1980, they put Mike Mentzer at 4th place, tied with Boyer Coe, so that when people would point out Mentzer should have won, there would be 3 men between him and Schwarzenegger. Mike Mentzer is the true 1980 Mr. Olympia and 1979 Mr. Olympia.
Thank you for sharing this🙌🙌
I think Zane Deserved that win. He much more aesthetic than mike. Frank Zane Looked like a Greek Statue.
Next time someone compliments me on my arms , i'm sending them this video. Perfectly and consicely said
i wish i heard of this when i was young and overtraining
Brilliant!
I allways kinda knew that supplements are trash and just marketing, especially at these prices. But Im glad to hear the detailed answer from Mike.
I allways think of primal situations. How would we function without the modern technoligys and so on. On the current bases its kinda told we would instantly die after 4 days or so ...
I have been following Dorians training philosophy (which was inspired from Mike's) for the last 5 months and the gains I have seen are phenomenal. It could be newbie gains but it works. Surprised not many people train to failure. Its a game changer.
Wdym game changer if you just started the game
@@alguldandoce7982 bruh 💀
@@alguldandoce7982 it's because I started lifting 10 year back. Haha.
@@AJK666007 Ah, gotcha. I got confused by you using the term newbie gains, lol. Glad it's working out for you, I'm still doing high volume training, still seeing progress but I might change.
Keep it up with the hit training and let us know when tou have a tear or hit an overtraining wall.
Or you take gear so it doesn matter.
This is gold
The guy is so intelligent. Some man for one man.
This is so relevant for me i've been using the HIT program but my diet is so off. Been looking for help!!
By Consuming a well balanced diet daily, i've not just gain a muscle but also maintaining my immune system, healthy brain and controllable body fat, it is true, Mike's ain't joking
Brilliant split.thank.RİP MİKE
those were some real math insights
Legend.
I took some advice from Mike about hit training and I gain 5 kg (11 pounds) in 3 weeks and I am trained. Highly recommended his philosophy.
what´s your diet, height and weight ?
I do share the situation
5 kg of fat and water?
For a veteran to gain 5 kg of muscle would require copious amounts of gear, even then 5kg would be very very hard to get in 3 weeks. Maybe even impossible. Can’t scam Biology
Wow.
Water weight
Is there anywhere I can find mikes bulking or cutting diet or what he usually ate in a day? Thanks 👍
i always thought Arnold looked geeky, he was one nerdy looking dude in the face. Mike was the man to me, i read and listen to everything that man said. brilliant mind when it comes to the sport of body building. my mother wouldn't let me train with heavy weights, she said it would stunt my growth. i didn't gain weight tell i got in high school and was able to sneak in heavy weight workouts using Mikes shorter time heavier weight. 9th grade i was just shy of 5"11' and i weighed 130 pounds. i graduated 185 pounds four years later, now of course that wasn't all muscle, i wasn't chunky either with a 31" waist. i got up to 200 pounds but felt heavy and slow, i tried to maintain 175 to 180 because i felt my best at that weight. I'm 54 now and i stay around 165 to 170. i was in a few accidents in life so i can't go hard anymore. i just had to say i love Mike and i love to hear him speak, even if i hear it before from Mike. he should have won in 81. thats all im saying.. lol
Thanks for sharing your story man
Arnold looked geeky? AHAAHAHAH in what world do u live
He is supernatural
Interesting that Bill didn’t argue Mike’s beliefs, seeing as Bill marketed heavy supplement usage and frequent training.
This is Genius. Why is it not Viral?
Because he goes against the whole industry. Training once every 4 days would ruin gyms and most personal trainers (not in sports, thats a different story, im talking about personal trainers which feed you random shit they heard). A lot of info about bodybuilding i thought right was apparently wrong, and ill try his methods. I must say, doing the same old approach has left me with little to no progress over the last 3 years, and back when i was making progress going to the gym almost every day, I was completely exhausted all the time.
Thanks
I'll listen to anything Mike says
That is great
Mentzer was ahead of his time