As a pro, I can say that you can definitely tell the difference between the iPhone imagery to a pro cam. I use Sony A systems as well as a Black Magic 6k Pro and started off with the Canon 5D III. If you're doing stuff for Insta or TikTok or whatever, I would say you 100% don't need a pro level cam. But if you're serious into Photography or Videography, you can't beat a pro level cam.
I think the big difference you missed completely is the full process and experience of photography as a hobby (or profession) versus someone who just wants clicks on their social media. 2 completely different worlds.
As a hobbyist (I’m no expert) but the quality of smart phones is way below the level of DSLR’s. However I would agree the smart phone is much easier to carry and more desecrate.
It‘s quite the opposite. What you discribe is something that has happened over the last years. Lately there is a strong trend back to real cameras. If it’s compacts or bigger stuff. In terms of pictures I don’t see that smartphone are coming closer, but in the video department, I think we all found ourselves using an iPhone etc. just because it’s so convenient and the material looks nice and stable. But like I said, there is a strong trend back to APS-C and FF. The big mistake that was made from most companies is, to not push their APS-C models. FF is overkill for 95% of the hobbyists out there. Companies love FF, as they earn more money with it, but it makes no sense and results to often in frustration.
I definitely understand that perspective as I'm always going back and forth between my phone and camera while often preferring my phone's output... and think you're probably ahead of the curve here. That being said, I think camera manufacturers are aware of this trend and may come up with a way to merge the tech and keep us nerds buying more cameras than we need.
@@don7117 hello... Yes, "output" seemed like the most concise way at the time to sum up the algorithmic photo/video renderings/images/footage from my smartphone. I have three full frame Sonys among other cameras and sometimes it's my phone I reach for because of what it can instantaneously produce, so I can understand Tom's sentiment. Yet, I can comprehend others feeling the opposite on this topic as I often do, too! My Pixel vs my Sonys- ua-cam.com/video/rEnn_z8uxWA/v-deo.html
If you're going to use a monitor or a 4k tv you will be able to tell. If you use professional rigs/lighting it can help compensate, but you will still see the difference.
Yes you are right, consumers now want something fast yet not too shaby footage.. but content is still king. Smartphones is the way forward or maybe with some help from small cameras.. even my family members said iphone video look vibrant than my ZVE1. I guess my camera will be ancient history like me. I’m still holding on to my camera..
Have you tried shooting in HDR or in log then editing in HDR from the Sony ZV-E1 ? I noticed that the iPhone footage looks great during the day mostly do to the HDR that most of us have it set too. I really enjoy the iPhone 15pro footage and it is a good back-up to my zv-e1 but I still l love the image that comes out of the zv-e1 especially in low light . For poorly lit rooms and anything after early evening smart phones and even 1 inch sensors struggle and even their stability starts to go in low light due to the Algorithm they use.
@@tayinternational i have tried the iphone in my video together with my ZVE1. My wife likes the colour of iphone than my ZVE1. But sometimes she had mistaken between the shots between the two cameras.
@@Mraz75 Also if the viewer is watching on a iPhone , MacBook or and tv displaying in HDR they will see a much better looking video compared to " regular " displays .
I watch a quite few travel channels that the content creators are using a phone, a GoPro and a drone. Other channels may use a Sony A6400 or Sony A7S3. If you are honest with yourself, and not trying to nitpick, the iPhone and GoPro video works as well. Camera Geeks get hung up on specs, but a high resolution sensor or 10 bit color does not matter to most people. Image stabilization matters more, and the iPHone and GoPro do this better. If you are shooting a wedding, then the camera makes more sense, if it is staionary on a tripod.
Interesting. I've just gone through a similar proccess but kind of reversed- and yet it still proves your point. I've just bought a decent camera after years of relying on a cheap phone.I dont regret this decision but have to admit there's not a lot of benefits either
I really enjoy the iPhone 15pro footage and it is a good back-up to my zv-e1 but I still l love the image that comes out of the zv-e1 especially in low light . For poorly lit rooms and anything after early evening Smart phones and even 1 inch sensors struggle in low light and even their stability starts to suffer due to the Algorithm they use . The one thing I really thought should be better on current smartphones is the terrible light flares ( green balls ) especially in low light . I filmed on the iPhone 12pro max for a year and at the time I really thought the image was good enough but those green balls/orbs were always a pain . As a travel UA-camr I think that its important to grab a high quality video even if the audience today does not appreciate it , I do and maybe viewers in the future will too .
Valid points right there, I am eyeballing all these new tiny cameras, the Osmo pocket 3 is really appealing and I really want to believe I can replace my Sony A7IV with one, for my use case I don't think they are there yet, but very soon will, nice video.
Sony is kinda boring. Their lineup is like buying the same camera but with different internal specs. Nikon and Canon did well differentiating between build and form factor design.
Looool. This video is 4 years late. The camera market has been shrinking steadliy until 2020, when it was at it's lowest. Since then, it has been getting bigger EVERY YEAR, with Sony having a very strong lead on the market in new mirorless cameras sold (but most brand are expanding too, for example fuji making the biggest splah in recent and old history with the X100VI). And it's projected to grow eveery year until at least 2030. The numbers are easy to find on google. Every hobbist who don't need a camera got rid of it years ago and a lot of traditionnal jobs in the insdusrty did disapear too. But social media made up a new market, for photo AND video, yes you can absolutely start with a phone, but to increase quality you need to go with a real camera, some go at least APSC, most go FF to level up. And it drives "normal" people to those cameras too, with a strong appeal to the vintage (film camreras and esthetics) and retro style (fuji again with tiktokers and X100V). As a community manager I know a lot about that (since 2020 I invested thousands in APSC gear)
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As a pro, I can say that you can definitely tell the difference between the iPhone imagery to a pro cam. I use Sony A systems as well as a Black Magic 6k Pro and started off with the Canon 5D III. If you're doing stuff for Insta or TikTok or whatever, I would say you 100% don't need a pro level cam. But if you're serious into Photography or Videography, you can't beat a pro level cam.
Everyone isn't. I'm not.
I think the big difference you missed completely is the full process and experience of photography as a hobby (or profession) versus someone who just wants clicks on their social media. 2 completely different worlds.
As a hobbyist (I’m no expert) but the quality of smart phones is way below the level of DSLR’s. However I would agree the smart phone is much easier to carry and more desecrate.
It‘s quite the opposite. What you discribe is something that has happened over the last years. Lately there is a strong trend back to real cameras. If it’s compacts or bigger stuff.
In terms of pictures I don’t see that smartphone are coming closer, but in the video department, I think we all found ourselves using an iPhone etc. just because it’s so convenient and the material looks nice and stable.
But like I said, there is a strong trend back to APS-C and FF. The big mistake that was made from most companies is, to not push their APS-C models. FF is overkill for 95% of the hobbyists out there. Companies love FF, as they earn more money with it, but it makes no sense and results to often in frustration.
I definitely understand that perspective as I'm always going back and forth between my phone and camera while often preferring my phone's output... and think you're probably ahead of the curve here. That being said, I think camera manufacturers are aware of this trend and may come up with a way to merge the tech and keep us nerds buying more cameras than we need.
The future of cameras is exciting
"preferring my phone's output"..... 😅
@@don7117 hello... Yes, "output" seemed like the most concise way at the time to sum up the algorithmic photo/video renderings/images/footage from my smartphone. I have three full frame Sonys among other cameras and sometimes it's my phone I reach for because of what it can instantaneously produce, so I can understand Tom's sentiment. Yet, I can comprehend others feeling the opposite on this topic as I often do, too!
My Pixel vs my Sonys- ua-cam.com/video/rEnn_z8uxWA/v-deo.html
If you're going to use a monitor or a 4k tv you will be able to tell. If you use professional rigs/lighting it can help compensate, but you will still see the difference.
Yes you are right, consumers now want something fast yet not too shaby footage.. but content is still king. Smartphones is the way forward or maybe with some help from small cameras.. even my family members said iphone video look vibrant than my ZVE1. I guess my camera will be ancient history like me. I’m still holding on to my camera..
Have you tried shooting in HDR or in log then editing in HDR from the Sony ZV-E1 ? I noticed that the iPhone footage looks great during the day mostly do to the HDR that most of us have it set too. I really enjoy the iPhone 15pro footage and it is a good back-up to my zv-e1 but I still l love the image that comes out of the zv-e1 especially in low light . For poorly lit rooms and anything after early evening smart phones and even 1 inch sensors struggle and even their stability starts to go in low light due to the Algorithm they use.
@@tayinternational i have tried the iphone in my video together with my ZVE1. My wife likes the colour of iphone than my ZVE1. But sometimes she had mistaken between the shots between the two cameras.
@@Mraz75 Also if the viewer is watching on a iPhone , MacBook or and tv displaying in HDR they will see a much better looking video compared to " regular " displays .
@@tayinternational thank you for sharing. I did not know about that. I have to try and shoot with my iphone 15 again.
I watch a quite few travel channels that the content creators are using a phone, a GoPro and a drone. Other channels may use a Sony A6400 or Sony A7S3. If you are honest with yourself, and not trying to nitpick, the iPhone and GoPro video works as well. Camera Geeks get hung up on specs, but a high resolution sensor or 10 bit color does not matter to most people. Image stabilization matters more, and the iPHone and GoPro do this better. If you are shooting a wedding, then the camera makes more sense, if it is staionary on a tripod.
i sold my Sony A7iv for Lumix s5iiX but everyone hear me out you on the wrong rout i feel regret leaving sony
Interesting. I've just gone through a similar proccess but kind of reversed- and yet it still proves your point.
I've just bought a decent camera after years of relying on a cheap phone.I dont regret this decision but have to admit there's not a lot of benefits either
I really enjoy the iPhone 15pro footage and it is a good back-up to my zv-e1 but I still l love the image that comes out of the zv-e1 especially in low light . For poorly lit rooms and anything after early evening Smart phones and even 1 inch sensors struggle in low light and even their stability starts to suffer due to the Algorithm they use . The one thing I really thought should be better on current smartphones is the terrible light flares ( green balls ) especially in low light . I filmed on the iPhone 12pro max for a year and at the time I really thought the image was good enough but those green balls/orbs were always a pain . As a travel UA-camr I think that its important to grab a high quality video even if the audience today does not appreciate it , I do and maybe viewers in the future will too .
What's your channel stand for?
This is so true. I sold my canon for a GoPro and the quality is the same and I made $500
I enjoyed this. Very well stated.
Everyone?! Hmmm, I must have missed the memo. I admit the caption is a great clickbait though!
Valid points right there, I am eyeballing all these new tiny cameras, the Osmo pocket 3 is really appealing and I really want to believe I can replace my Sony A7IV with one, for my use case I don't think they are there yet, but very soon will, nice video.
Sony is kinda boring. Their lineup is like buying the same camera but with different internal specs. Nikon and Canon did well differentiating between build and form factor design.
You're absolutely nuts I would never sell my Sony gear
Looool. This video is 4 years late.
The camera market has been shrinking steadliy until 2020, when it was at it's lowest. Since then, it has been getting bigger EVERY YEAR, with Sony having a very strong lead on the market in new mirorless cameras sold (but most brand are expanding too, for example fuji making the biggest splah in recent and old history with the X100VI). And it's projected to grow eveery year until at least 2030. The numbers are easy to find on google.
Every hobbist who don't need a camera got rid of it years ago and a lot of traditionnal jobs in the insdusrty did disapear too. But social media made up a new market, for photo AND video, yes you can absolutely start with a phone, but to increase quality you need to go with a real camera, some go at least APSC, most go FF to level up. And it drives "normal" people to those cameras too, with a strong appeal to the vintage (film camreras and esthetics) and retro style (fuji again with tiktokers and X100V).
As a community manager I know a lot about that (since 2020 I invested thousands in APSC gear)
People are selling their Sony’s for new ones lol
No real creator or person making money off videos or photography would sell their full frame cameras and go with an iPhone, sorry but you are wrong
Yes
Only you selling it.
Im not selling my sony
Sony are Mickey Mouse Cameras
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