The most comprehensive sermon I have heard on this subject. I Have never been able to be comfortable with other exposition on this subject though I leave it in the Lord's hands and think as Paul Washer says that he is a Pan thinker on this, that it will all pan out according to the will of God.
I listened to the entire position. It's the first time I've actually heard someone defend this position. I've heard the position, but never in this detail. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to look towards my father to seek him if this is true or not. I will say that so many verses come to mind suddenly that I am unable to place when I look at this position (example - Isaiah 65:17-25, Zechariah 14), but I haven't had time to fully absorb the teaching yet. I used to be a dispensationalist, but I finally stopped caring about what was popular and wanted Truth, so I sought it and I could not deny the scriptures (Romans 9:31-32) even though it was uncomfortable. Early Church history taught the position of post tribulation rapture. It took a long time for me to absorb that we have joined true Israel also based on scripture. I've always been taught to reject these things until someone came at me with scripture to back it up. It's taken me years, seeking Truth, to change my position on things, but by God's grace, I want Truth. I will pray about this as well.
Understanding Eschatology is not a prerequisite to eternal life. There will always be disagreement in the understanding of Eschatology and it has been like that since the Holy Spirit helped the church fathers to put canon of the scriptures together. Eschatology can either help bring comfort in your expectations of when Christ will return but not guarantee your salvation. Now and meanwhile we all need to focus on proclaiming the good news of the gospel and we need to baptize people in the name of the father the son and the Holy Spirit.
This is where I struggle…. Our Glorious Lord, blessed us with discernment and I do believe that there are Teachers, like Voddie Baucham, who we can trust. Sound Doctrine is of the upmost importance for us and I learn from Pastor Baucham and Pastor MacArthur. Their theological teaching on this subject makes sense to me, however, their teachings are completely opposed to each other. I don’t know which way to go on this, but I’m convicted to just Trust Jesus Christ, our Lord. We must not argue about theological interpretations, amongst our fellow believers. Our Lord, is not the God of confusion, and I know that Victory is already won, in Jesus Christ, our Lord. Amen! Hallelujah! Let us trust Gods Will and timing, knowing our Salvation in Christ, while being salt and light to the world. Let us love others and preach the Good News, as Ambassadors of Christ. Sometimes, I feel unsure about so many debated theologies in Scripture, however, I will start with what I 100% do know to be true which is, Jesus Christ, was born of a virgin and is the Son of God. He lived a perfectly righteous life as a Man. He was innocent, yet crucified bearing our sins on the tree, suffering God’s wrath for our iniquities. He Gloriously Rose three days later, defeating sin and death, and gave us the only way to Eternal Salvation and Eternal Fellowship with our Lord. Amen! Hallelujah! Praise Jesus!
Unfortunately friend, as I found out, they are both false teachers along with Paul washer. They are calvinists, and lordship salvation heretics. They teach doctrine opposed to scripture and twist scripture to fit their own false works based Gospel. That we must work as well as believe to be saved. This is false. Ephesians 2:8-9. They say there must by works to prove your saved. This is wrong. We should and will change if we are born again, it is not a requirement to be saved, because if you have trusted Jesus alone, you have been born again, which is a one time irreversible event. You cannot lose your salvation, because it’s a free gift that you did nothing to earn yourself :) amen 🙏
I have admired and respected John MacArthur for decades, but have had to agree to disagree agreeably with his Dispensationalism. I'm with R.C. Sproul (who was a close friend of John MacArthur but who also disagreed with his Dispensational premillennialism), and with Voddie Baucham as I think amillennialism and Covenant Theology are far more consistent with Scripture and internally than Dispensational premillennialism or for that matter with historic premillennialism.
My heart broke over this sermon..you said it perfectly, we shouldn't argue but just trust God. The discernment you talked about, i believe to be the holy Spirit. I am just in total pain now, because Voddie said " he believes in our current time in which we live in..the devil is bound. I just pray i took that wrong. But if i didn't then there's huge biblical problems with him saying that. If thats true why does the new testament say " the devil goes too and frow looking for whom he may devour" if that was true the apostle wouldn't have said " resist the devil and he will flee from you " baucham needs to give a better understanding on his version of what the bounding of the devil actually means. And to say that the great commission couldn't happen unless the devil is currently bound is in itself a huge biblical problem. I so wish he'd do Q.&A's this is the man that preached the sermon of all sermons called "Brokenness" I just hope i misunderstood or missed something. God bless you All.
LORD JESUS OUR CHRIST thank YOU for giving Dr Voddie and GfBC wisdom to share with us. As the Book says we are truly blessed and loved by CHRIST to learn the amazing mysteries and workings and secrets of Heaven; indeed our CHRIST made us the friends of GOD. Thank you, thank you, thank you. AMEN.
@@thanosman3491 Voddie, Paul washer, MacArthur, etc are calvinist and lordship salvation heretics. Look up dispensations, we are saved today by grace through faith in Jesus finished work. It cannot be lost and it cannot be earned. It is revived as a gift once and for all when we believe on Jesus and what He has already done. That how one is born again, but these false teachers say you must also do x,y,z work to also be saved, which is false. We should live holy, they are works of discipleship which will not be rewarded if one is not born again.
Thank you so much for this instructive teaching. I have never believed dispensationalism, secret rapture, etc nor preterism, but now I know what I've believed has a name--amillennialism. I'm going to share this video with my Bible study group!
Amen! Dispensationalism is the most twisted lie that has been dominating churches but thank God that more people are starting to wake up and realize that its teachings of 3,4 2nd-comings, literal earthly kingdom that Jesus Christ nor the Bible ever mentions, some 7 year tribulation period that's not in the bible and the escape of that 7 year tribulation via "rapture" does not make sense and is a teaching that was introduced 160 years ago by Darby and Scofield.
Praise be to God and Lord Jesus Christ. This is the most concise sermon on eschatology along with RC Sproul, Sam storms, Kim Ridldlebarger, GK Beale, Joel Beeke, John R Crosby, Sam Waldron and Mike Gerhardt. Revelation is best read and preached the way it's intended to be read and preached: as Doxology (not a go-to guide for those "left behind"), and Dr Voddie Baucham nails it with his God-given wisdom and knowledge.
If you adopt the recapitulation interpretation as opposed to the chronological interpretation of Rev 19 and Rev 20 you have to explain this: The beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire in Rev 19 whereas Satan is cast into the lake of fire in Rev 20 “where the beast and the false prophet were,” which indicates that the events of Rev 20 follow Rev 19. Also, it is difficult to accept the interpretation that Satan being sealed in a pit in 20:3 is to one specific purpose. The text doesn’t say Satan is free to wander about but has no authority to deceive nations, does it? Indeed, Revelation 12:9 describes Satan as the deceiver of the whole world. In Rev 13:14 the beast is deceiving those who dwell on the earth. And so on.
The CILIATE of the gentilitius are the definition of χίλιαἔτη, which is the original greek word used that speaks of "1000 years" and "millenial reign". Please Abba Yahuah....cause eyes of YOUR people to see this and to study it out for themselves! All glory, power, praise and dominion be to Yahusha!!!
I’ve always been pre-millennial, however, lately I find myself questioning it and opening myself up to another belief. This is very helpful. But what from Voddie isn’t? lol
I have one of the greatest respects for pastor Bauchman. I have been so blessed by some of his teachings. Yet, my spirit stirs within me, (or better said) i am grieved. For it so appears (And i pray i am wrong,) that Pastor Bauchman feels the binding of the devil is currently going on. The problem with that is my bible declares, that satan goes to and frow looking for who he might devour. If he was bound we wouldn't need to put on the armor of God. The apostle wouldn't have said, resist the devil and we will flee from you. If he is bound currently how could he flee from anyone. Oh pastor Bauchman, this is most perplexing, i wish you would give a clearer sermon on this. Because if your wrong, than a false teaching was teached. I pray so hard i misunderstood or took it the wrong way. I am still patching up wounds from your sermon where you said "we shouldn't ask to know Gods will for us" oh lord my heart grieves, please show me what pastor bauchman is really saying..and if its what i originally thought it to be. Give me instruction. I understand I don't have to always agree with pastors teaching. But in this case, its one of your anointed, that i believe could be teaching something that I don't see in your holy word in the same manner. Open my understanding or instruct his to say in plan words this is what i meant. Bless him lord.
@KnowingGodExplorers Let me see if I can help you just a little. Satan is obviously bound. Before the resurrection, was God's Word and reign spread all over the earth or was it just in a teenie tiny nation called Israel? Yes there were a few throughout the land who worshipped the one true God, but Satan was given free reign over the majority of the earth's populace. But what happened when Satan was bound at the resurrection? A complete explosion of Christ's obvious reign over the entire globe, spreading to every tribe, tongue and nation. Satan was and is clearly, clearly bound and the gospel is unleashed all over the earth! I would encourage you to not take words like "bound" and limit its meaning to what we assume such a word means. It is vital to understand that in apocalyptic literature, words are heavily symbolic (example: John "heard 144,000, and when I turned around he saw a number no on could count." So was it 144,000 or not? It wasn't. We don't take the literal, furthest possible meaning of 144,000 **in this context of apocalyptic literature**).
He was clear. He points to the limited phrasing of bound from deceiving the nations. Then, he goes on to expound scripture of how other verses relate to that. From I saw Satan fall to having taken (past tense) to every people group(the word being used for nation.) The problem is twofold, one being that for most of church history, dispensationalism didn't exist let alone be the primary view, but two, that is incredibly arrogant for us to assume we can ve so sure of the most complex book, that we become so rigid on the topic.
If Satan was not "bound" yet, then none of us would be here today, Satan would have already destroyed the church, the earth and everything else. Rev. 20 tells us just before the end of this age, Satan will be loosed from this "binding" and given power to destroy even the saints. Likewise, Jesus said in Mt. 24:21, 22 that if those days were not shortened, no flesh would survive, but for the elects sake, they will be shortened. You don't even want to know the kind of destruction Satan is capable of, left to his own devices. It sounds like you are looking for truth, but you are still guided by dispensational theology, which, in my opinion will only hinder your attempt to understand eschatology. Hope this helps, it took me 3 years to leave behind my dispensational hermeneutic. Hope this helps, blessings.
Amen brother Voddie! In the words of Jesus, John 12:31 says "Now is the Judgement of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out." Quote Paul and Peter all you want, but Jesus Himself confirms what Voddie is teaching.
The Bible supports pre-wrath. Matt 24:31 and Dan 12:1 link to 1 Thess 4:16-17, meaning the “rapture” is after the Great Tribulation. 1 Thess 5:9 indicates the saved will not experience God’s wrath. Rev 9 is a key link. It is linked to Rev 7:1-4. Also Rev 9:13-16 is the completion of sealing and is linked to Rev 16:12-16 by the 6th angel. The 7th angel is when God’s wrath occurs.
The 7th Day Adventists and Iglesia Ni Cristo teach Jesus rules from heaven during the 1000 years. They both teach the church comes out of the Great Tribulation. Rev 21:1-4 links to Rev 7:13-17. Could explain the Holy City coming down and being “God’s camp” in Rev 20:8-9.
The big question is the martyrs in Rev 20:4 being the first resurrection. Do they go straight to the Holy City? It’s obvious that true believers have been killed since the first century and continue to be killed.
I was afraid to see it too, because I thought I was going to be treated as a heretic or that it was sinful to think of something different than what I grew up "knowing". Yet, at the same time, what I knew didn't make much sense, so much so that the book was more of a fairy tale than a revelation to me and didn't want to read. But now with this new to me perspective but being taught for centuries (now I know). The book of revelation and it meaning it is so much clearer and now all the pieces fit in, (if you will). Not only that this has awaken a new desire to learn more and study more, the scriptures.
In as much as i respect his view and effort to defend it, I lts a wrong view, but im thankful that someone has had time to expound on the view to make it clear what and why they believe in it
Because of what Jesus spoke in the parables of Matthew, and revelations speaking of this age and the Age to come is exactly why I think the "taking away" or rapture is the taking away of the wicked, like in the flood of Noah. and that will happen after the millennium, 2nd resurrection and white throne judgement. In the parables he says the Kingdom of heaven is likened unto various things, but the content of a lot of those parables referenced the changing of the age, and give us a lot of insight. Jesus told us to look into the parables for knowledge of the Kingdom. Matthew 13 10:16 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear While yes Christ comes and saves us, we are not the twelve. We still need to look in the parables for the knowledge, God speaks through his word and through these parables I believe our eyes can be opened.
@@nycosplayernetworkcospodbe5265 no Jesus didnt lie. The "come as a thief in the night" verse has context around it. Thessolonians 5 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. So paul is saying what? The ones not in the dark it wont happen like a thief in the night. The church has been lying for a long time. Scripture clearly states the wicked will be taken. From Matthew, to revelations all the way back to genesis. in the days of Noah who was taken away the good or wicked? proverbs 2:22 But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it. in the parables the tares are taken bound and burnt before the wheat is gathered into the barn... Its plain as day brother.
The rapture was given specifically to Paul not to the twelve “the mystery”. It wasn’t spoken of in Matthew if you rightly divide the word it will clear things up.
@@mattschannel286 Where does the bible tell you that Paul alone was given the secret to the rapture? Who taught you that? that is quite ignorant of what the bible tells you to be quite honest brother. Multiple prophets received glimpses of the first resurrection, new kingdom and end time events. Everything Yeshua taught was told before him in the prophets. including John after Paul which received a full view. But you honestly believe that Paul alone was given the secret to the rapture, but the bible doesn't actually tell you that now does it? John was given a full view, not a glimpse of the new kingdom, of the new heaven, new earth. The coming of Christ, ALL of the end time events, the first resurrection and the 2nd...But he wasn't given the secret to the rapture? Follow your logic to its conclusion. It don't make sense and its not biblical, neither is a secret taking away of the church. This is precisely why Apostle Paul said "Do not exceed what is written"
I think we're very close to the transition, it will happen overnight but we won't really notice for a long time after but with no doubt the forchunes of the world as we know it will massively decline from the moment it transitions and the transition is progressional. Just look how far the Christian world has fallen the last 90 years as it's built up the world. More people recognize the mcds arche then Jesus Christ face now, I think he'll be free on earth soon.
Understanding Eschatology is not a prerequisite to eternal life. There will always be disagreement in the understanding of Eschatology and it has been like that since the Holy Spirit helped the church fathers to put canon of the scriptures together. Eschatology can either help bring comfort in your expectations of when Christ will return but not guarantee your salvation. Now and meanwhile we all need to focus on proclaiming the good news of the gospel and we need to baptize people in the name of the father the son and the Holy Spirit.
If this is the millennium, when was the tribulation and the reign of the anti-christ? When did the mark of the beast happen? When was there a single ruler of the world who brought peace? When was the 3rd temple built? When did the two prophets die, and how were they seen by everyone in the world? I never heard of any of these things happening.
The Great Tribulation was the sack of Jerusalem in 70 AD, an event that many Christians don't know much about, hence the confusion. Though the Great Tribulation is in the past, the current gospel age is marked with tribulation.
Just going to take a stab at this as someone who doesn't hold an Amil view and just found out Voddie was Amil so I watched this video. So, don't take this too seriously, I'm just using your comment as a test to see if I can articulate the Amil view on your questions. -From his view I believe the tribulation would be now. As John says in Revelation 1:9 that he is a partaker in the tribulation. -The anti-christ is a general belief that is anti-god or anti-Jesus, there isn't just one single anti-christ as stated in 1 John 2:18. "Antichrist is coming and many antichrists have come" -The mark of the beast is the opposite of "The Mark Of God" which is also on our hands or forehead. Duet. 6:6-8 and multiple places in Revelation like 9:4. And the mark of God is anybody who follows and lives out their faith in God. So the mark of the best would be anybody who doesn't do that, they have chosen to take the mark of Satan by rejecting God. -The "Single ruler" I'm not sure what he would say on this, maybe not just the Roman Empire or a person but probably more related to the individual spirit of the antichrist that has united all non-believers. -The 3rd temple was built with us Christians who are now the temple of God. 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 -The two prophets likely represent two testimonies that satan seemingly defeated but came back to life through the Gospel? Maybe like when Hadrian in 130 AD tried to destroy the testimony of all the Christian sites by creating pagan temples on all of them, which only preserved their locations and were uncovered years later because they marked the locations (lol). Something like that but again their view is likely not 2 actual people but two ideas or themes. Also "seeing" would just refer to knowing something about it. Like a lot of people having heard the Gospel.
@MattWard89 I hear what you are saying, and I appreciate and listen to voddie as well. I just feel like the A-millenial and post-mellenial views use a lot of symbolism as opposed to taking the text literally. Their views seem like a stretch or mental gymnastics to make the text fit their views. I definitely could be wrong, but I just can't see how this is the millennium or how 70ad was the tribulation. Especially if you look to the old Testament for pictures of what the millennial kingdom will look like. I appreciate your time in answering my questions.
@@JesusSaves373 Yeah it's difficult but I think the difference is taking it "physically" vs "literally". Since all the main eschatology views agree that much of Revelations is symbolic, they merely disagree on particular points being symbolic. ie. Nobody thinks the sword coming out of Jesus' mouth is a "Physical" sword but everybody takes it literally that the Word of God and the power of Jesus' word is a sword as a concept. So, in this case, to take the passage literally would NOT mean taking it at face value but using the Bible's context as a whole to help interpret. To me this seems to be the case with the ~10% people disagree on which is "Symbolic-Literal" vs "Physical-Literal" that all the views have a debate over. 1000 literally represents a long time or literally 1000 rotations around the sun as the main example. Personally I've got to remain humble when studying all these because I was raised Pre-Mill Pre-Trib Dispensational and the way it was growing up was that that view was THE WAY to interpret it and it wasn't until I was an adult that I even heard of there being other views. Like, I was raised that if you had a different view of the pre-mid-post TRIBULATION it was basically a heresy. lol Let alone the millennium. All that being said, I've spent a fair amount of time over the years trying to look into "what's right" and it's proven to be more difficult than I'd have thought. For example, the earliest christians 1,2,3 century believed in a physical reign or millennium. But NOT the same way most think for the pre-mil disp view. Then after a few hundred years it was majority post/A-mil until the 1800's when pre-mil disp came about. Personally, I'm at peace with where I'm at now but I hold many of these views loosely since I could very well be wrong. One way or another we will find out for sure. lol
@MattWard89 I completely agree with you that this is an open handed issue. It should not divide the body of Christ. As I've heard said, I'll happily change my eschatology mid-air. I hope you have a blessed day and a merry Christmas!
Ah me everything Vodie preached I eagerly devoured until this. So what happened to Ezekiel's temple Ez 40-48? Did God just threw that in for filler. Read what the Apostle Paul says in Rom 11:1-25. Culminating with verse 25: Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. So what is this fulness of the Gentiles? This is a good example of why everyone needs to be a student of scripture and not just blindly depend on pastors and teachers. The scriptures are not that hard to understand if one is born again led by the Holy Spirit. Consider the following scriptures taking into consideration it has been almost 2000 years since Jesus' crucifixion: Hos 6:1 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. Hos 6:2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. Hos 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth. 2Pe_3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. Amen!! Hallelujah!!
It does sound like this doctrine is setting people up for a false Christ doesn't it? So many prophecies he never dared touch upon, that have yet to come to pass.
The thousand years corresponds to the day of rest in the week of creation. It is literal. The numbers are literal- 12 gates, 12 foundation stones although symbolical are nevertheless literal.
Love Voddie his view on the time line, applying the New Testament with the Old Testament. Getting Daniel wrong. He added to the Bible as well. I dug into this weeks ago. I wish he was right but he is not on this. Refer you to someone Voddie respects very much, John MacArthur. God bless you Voddie.
I love both men. I got saved under John Mac’s preaching over 30 years ago. I listen to his daily broadcast twice a day. Over time I came to the same conclusions as Voddie and Sam Storms. I don’t spiritualize some things quite as much as them.
@davidbanner77 you must have because he added his opinion. Also since you didn't catch this actually open your Bible and READ for yourself. Paul did say test the spirits this includes preachers ones that you may hold in high regard. Do realize they are human and are far from perfect. We all fall short this includes Voddie.
@@demontejohnson4102 yes he did his opinion and his interpretation. If you open the Bible for yourself and stop being a lazy Christian you will see/read what he reinterpreted. Do realize he's suppose to be the messenger not the message and NOT God! So he messed up already by getting the message wrong. Also look back on history. Test the spirits!
@@Andrea-xl6cj Hello, Well I've tested your spirit of slander and name calling, I'm not lazy whatsoever. Maybe rather than resorting to name calling and sinning against me (Galatians 6:1), respectfully and gently point out some areas where you say he is adding to the text and where you disagree. This is not his interpretation alone, it is covenantal theology, to which I am inclined to know as a faithful and a historic understanding of the text. Lets sharpen one another, not slander each other. Grace and Peace.
I struggle with eschatology. I was an atheist until February of 2019, when I had an audible experience from Him. I previously had an encounter with a demon whom seemed to offer me a deal, which I declined (spring 2014). It was one of those sleep paralysis apparition things. I remember thinking at the time, “If I believed in any of this, I would choose God.” That’s when it disappeared. It still took another 5ish years to make me a believer. Anyway, during that audible experience, one of the things He said to me was, “Something bad is coming.” He never said “rapture,” and it seems that when I read Scripture for myself, I drift toward a Preterist view. (Josephus reported an army being seen in the clouds when the Second Temple went down. I haven’t read Tacitus, but he’s supposed to have a similar account.) Anyway, I think that a lot of us are receiving end times dreams, Rapture dreams, or mere notions to that effect because we are approaching a critical period on par with such a time. My current suspicion is that those having rapture dreams in which they are taken up (as opposed to returned) are going to perish en masse in a nuclear war or comparable mass event. I could use prayers on this. I’ve never been able to find a proper teacher either. I get little nudges from Him, but not answers to all the questions that upset me… I’m kind of a brat that way, I suppose. Anyway, I could use some help here, if you happen to see this. May GOD bless you and your loved ones, in Jesus’s name: Amen. Amendment: How much time passed between the completion of Solomon’s Temple and the destruction of the Second Temple? Roughly 1,000 years? I’m probably wrong.
How anyone can say the devil is bound now is greatly deceived. I can't tell. The world is so evil, i literally can't tell. If he's bound, I'd hate to see what this world would look like when he's loose.
We are living through the final few years of the Short Season. Most of the prophecies in the book of Revelation have already been fulfilled. In scripture, we are at Revelation 20:7 and 2nd Esdras 11:32. Analysis, proofs, dates, and timelines at my YT channel.
Also if we were living in the time of satan being locked up then why have we destruction and temptations of evil why after the resurrection was there still evil. The Lord's message Spreads because what God says is and can no one or thing stop it! Not because satan was locked up. Once again you change 1 thing you have to change all. I just can't and won't get behind that. Please realize you have pride and then pray the Lord Humbles you!
The great commission is go out and make disciples of all nations. Not go out and spread the Gospel. He said the gospel will go to all the earth. You can not disciple non-believers. The difference is, we are told to go and make disciple of all nations. But the gospel will go to all nations. No direct commission as far as preaching the gospel. Yes, we as individuals testify about the Gospel of Christ. But there are those who's gift it is to preach the gospel in mass to the nations. But it is every believers job to disciple one another and to pray. Some plant, some water but I will add. But we all should disciple.
“Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world.” 1 Peter 5:8-9 As Voddie has said DEAD MEN DONT GRAB…….also it is true BOUND DRAGONS DONT PROWL….
It’s not people in particular that are referred to, it’s nations that are deceived to gather them together for battle. Which is exactly where we are right now.
@@jaqtsonfromthemist I think he was “bound”, but not anymore. Not in the way the Bible defines it. I appreciate you sharing that you are new to the faith. Thank the Lord for that. Eschatology is the deep end of the pool. I would share, and maybe I should and will, in the future of what I think. I’ve been a believer for 33+ years. And I’ve been totally obsessed with eschatology. That has been my main focus for about the last 10 years. I highly recommend putting the Bible app on your phone and playing the KJV, play Isaiah to Revelation as many times as you can.
@@jaqtsonfromthemist I’m in the exact same boat as Voddie on eschatology, from what I’ve heard. Not quite to the point of spiritualizing quite as many things as he does. But what Voddie believes and teaches is definitely contrary to mainstream Christianity.
If the book of Revelation is so difficult to understand, as Baucham says, why would Christ say in Rev.1:3: "Blessed are those who read, and hear, and keep the things which are written in this book."? Would God say we are blessed, by doing these things, if we could not understand it?
It’s really not hard to understand if you’re consistent in your hermeneutic. I love Voddie, but he’s dead wrong in this sermon and on his eschatological views. There’s no possible way we’re in the millennium today the Bible explains what such a time will look like and we’re in nothing close to that today. Another big issue with thinking we’re in the millenial kingdom now too is Jesus isn’t physically reigning from David’s throne, from Jerusalem like he said he would. There’s wayyy too many issues with the amillenial view.
Sorry Voddie I can't rock with you on this one .if My Lord Jesus Christ..the creator of the everything was reining right now this place would be vastly different..it's just that simple.. Also Jesus speaks about first binding the strong man before taking over his house..in other words rendering him unable to do nothing..if the devil was bound he wouldn't be able to do nothing. P.s when Voddie is wrong like this it makes me say hmmm what else are you completely wrong about? I still love him though cuz he's not a heretic and mostly preaches truth.!
I appreciate the presentation of his views on eschatology, but I am not thrilled about the passive-aggressive way he put down pre-millennial adherents. He took quite a bit of time saying how he was shamed for not being pre-millennial and then turns around and shames pre-millennials for their interpretation. He even starts off by saying there are many interpretations by some of the most respected teachers we have (John MacArthur is one) but doesn't want to keep that respect in mind as he goes along. Still, I liked being able to get his interpretation of this passage.
So Dr Baucham. Because you take the thousand year reign as not literal but an analogy because the book is full of analogies like we have in the parables. Not real events. So do we use our own wisdom to determine what is literal and what isn't. My humble opinion is every Christian should stop listening to sermons from teachers and preachers until or unless we ourselves spend a lot of time in the word, and then we can test what we hear.. And praying for God's wisdom and discernment. The confusion and strife experts bring to the church is mind boggling. Unless that is that the Holy Spirit will not teach us and only teach, preachers, teachers and theologians. No wonder the way is straight and the gate is narrow and few are that find it.
Voddie speaks from a traditional reformed point of view. To believe that the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience, has been bound since the resurrection of Christ, and the millennium began spiritually 2,000 years ago reveals an ignorance of scripture. Your speech is urgently calling upon the audience to believe you, not the Bible. Augustine, the Catholic theologian, Calvin, Sproul, etc, were all amillennialists! You are a Baptist in name only! Messiah King Jesus will rule a literal, physical, earthly kingdom from Jerusalem for 1,000 years!
This view does not allow for a faithful preaching on not only Revelation, but also Daniel, Ezekial, Isaiah, Zachariah, Amos, much of the Psalms, and many of Jesus' own teaching on the end times spoken of in the gospels. There are far more comprehensive, cohesive, and biblically based preaching on the issue to Christ's millennial reign that unifies bilical text without punting to mystery, over spiritualizing, allegorizing or blatant dismissal of hard to interpret text as "apocalyptic". A thorough detailed study accounts for every detail and verse spoke on in scripture is truly a blessing once a proper view of the coming Kingdom of Christ is understood. It is only until the church preaches this coming earthly millenial kingdom (not to overlook Christ's present heavenly reign) will Christ return for his people. Again, this is not a new novel view of the end times. The pretrib rapture of the church has been taught since Polycarp (student of John the Apostle) and Irenaeus (student of Polycarp). Replacement theology is unbiblical and has no place in the overarching scheme of the biblical context and message.
The prophetic 1000 years millennium parallels the seventh day. YESHUA is coming soon! Satan knew that he had but a short time because Satan knew the Scripture. For instance, Exodus 20: 8,9 commands… (8) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. (9) Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
The millennium proves that “Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:“ was a command meant not only for humanity, but also for Satan.
Because at the end of 6000 years (his six days), Satan during millennium (1000 years/seventh day) will be forced to stop his work and rest.
The sabbath millennium will certainly be kept holy when disobedient Satan is bound, and the disobedient wicked remain bound in their grave until time for their resurrection. When I looked up the end of 6000 years, it is said to be between 2028 and 2033. Depending upon accuracy - that could be from 4 years to 9 years.
2 Timothy 2:15 study to show thy self approved unto God a workman who needeth not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth. I love Voddie as a brother in Christ but this is false teaching. He believes the kingdom is here but it was put on hold at the stoning of Steven. Then Paul went out to gentiles with the mystery “the body of Christ” Romans thru Philemon. For if the mystery was made known they wouldn’t have crucified the Lord of Glory. Hebrews thru Jude is for Israel not to the body. Which explains why doctrine doesn’t match to what Paul preached. The must be divisions the Holy Bible is for us but not all is to us. God deals with men differently during certain times.
I guess according to Voddie God doesn't mean what He says, and doesn't say what He means. What hermeneutical method is he using? The tossed salad method, I guess.
Having ADD I found it very difficult to concentrate on the sermon due to the background noise of coughing and crying babies in the sanctuary. I couldn't even finish listening as this distraction never stopped. Was there not a separate room/nursery that a parent could go to with a crying child to calm it down? And with the amount of coughing that went on I would suspect that some of those babies were actually ill and should have been kept from infecting other adults or children. I've never been in a church where parents stayed in the service with their fussy coughing children disturbing the rest of the congregates not to mention the person preaching.its rude and no excuse for it.
The AM will say for THE little "i" the CHILD. LIKEWISE THE little "i" for the AM. CREATION and yet to come! Come here!!!! How else ye exist? Beloved what is a New Table? LET us create MEN in our own Image. What is a Covenant without to share with another? From shared the I AM. For the I Covenant with the AM. Now ABLE TO share. Feet resting upon the very tip of time. Some will say you never been on my shoes? Mileage from thy feet is recognize! Unto all who received. Indeed freely receives! A little child born in this world will say, what is being burned? Able to stand without being consumed? Students why being consumed only belongs...belongs? Who love with patience, mercy, and grace. Washer of feet of neighbors and wiping their tears from their eyes! From before all ye ALL ARE born! From being born, to crawling, to walking, and till now thy feet resting upon the NEW very tip of time. Recognize the mileage from one's another's feet. How else? The little "i" will say may I washed my Heirs FEET UPON ALL DRY GROUNDS NOR THE WORLD? Not according to Offsprings PERISH! From here "NEW MINDS"! FROM OFFSPRINGS PERISH TO OFFSPRINGS "PRESERVE"! SPECIALLY questions desolation is near? Can desolation be changed? Resting upon the NEW Table made from a hand without blood stains upon HIS hand. Together! What is a Covenant without to share with another? Nor what holds all these?
The next event on God's prophetic calendar, is the Rapture of the church, all true believers. Then the 7 year tribulation period, with the rise of the antichrist and his one world government, then Christ's physical return to earth, His 2nd coming, to put an end to the war of Armageddon, then the literal 1000 year reign on earth of Jesus Christ, the millennial period, then the great white throne judgement of all unbelievers, and then the new Heaven and new Earth, eternity.
Listen to the Sermon carefully. Arnold Murray would have to denounce his earth age teachings however he would be correct on most of his Revelation teaching. Voddie is an Instrument like many Pastors for Truth.
Mr. Martin, we've all heard the Dispensational theology, which is why we no longer partake in its errors. You are welcome to disagree with Voddie, as the doctrine of eschatology is not essential for salvation. And your claim of 11 years of studying the topic, affords you the ability to hold to your conclusion. But to sit here and call out one of the greatest preacher's of our time as wrong, shows everyone that you're closed minded and that you are simply trolling. You stated the other day that Revelation should be taken literally. That statement alone shows you "want" it to be so literal that you're willing to solely view it with a very flawed presupposition. For instance, the 144,000.you probably believe will be the jews "saved" during a tribulational period after your secret rapture. The problem is, where will you find 144k Virgin males to repent and believe? Why are women excluded? And the list is out of birth order. As the 66th book.in our Canon, it's the only one that is out of birth order. For a jew, this would render John non-credible.... unless it's symbolic. I know, I'm Jewish. Perhaps you should move along. I'm sure David Jeremiah's fan page would welcome your sentiments. But this constant appeal to your flawed eschatological take is wearisome. Good news is we probably share essential doctrinal agreements. So, we'll see you in Glory land where none of this matters per our salvation.
I've followed you all the way to this point. But now you're interpreting the scriptures with opinion. Unless it clearly states that this is not literal which it does not you can't say this. Let's first start with Jesus said the time and the hour NO ONE knows but the Father! Because man classified each book as he pleases does not make it fact! The Bible is to be literal. If you start saying it's not literal then in your own words you are discrediting the whole of the Bible. You tear down every argument for the Bible for God for Jesus for The Holy Spirit. Please don't grieve the Holy Spirit with man's interpretation. Just because it may scare or even increase your content with these things. Please stick to the scriptures and read exactly as it says. Don't reinterpret. Also remember don't hate the sinner hate the sin. Jesus didn't go around harshly bashing. I too am growing in the spirit each day the Lord allows me to even take a second of breath. I still through Christ Jesus realize that I have so many fallacies and have never nor will never be perfect. I know that doing the ministry of Paul and Peter they did not have seminaries and schools to help them Study and break down these scriptures from what we call now the New Testament. These where revealed to them by Jesus and through Jesus. So why then do we have schools with hypocrisy. "Pastors, preachers and teachers" that all have there spin on these texts? I know this the Bible says what it means. If it is allegory it will clearly say prior to reading allegory. It does not. You yourself have brought into the deception. I'll pray for you. You have pride to its very clear. What you say is not absolute. It is not final. And tell me this if Satan has been bound up already why was there the crusades, waring over lands countries and kingdoms? Why was there the inquisitions and such unthinkable torture in the beginning until the end of the middle ages or such evil after the fall of the Roman empire. No I am not a philosophy student. I don't even have a degree. But I have faith and belief in the one true savior Jesus Christ I believe in God creating the world in 6 days and that on the 7th he rested. I believe Jesus is God. I believe that the Holy Spirit was with Daniel. I believe that prior the Jesus saving my life from the wrath of God I was dead in my sins. I believe that Job was a faithful servant. You can take your wisdom scriptures and I'll take the unadulterated Bible(s). Please just stop/don't dilute the Bible and just teach it correctly! Remember you will be held to a higher fault. You have a flock to Teach. Don't mislead God's sheep. Please!
Dearest Brother Baucham Sir, Are you okay ? Please submit to a Godly older man to mentor you. You're not too old or wise to have or need a mentor. VODDIE DEAR VODDIE..... i have been blessed for years by your teaching but this one..........? Since my baby days in Christ, I decided to take what the bible says as literally as possible and if THE LORD wants me to read into it figuratively, HE WILL SAY, because HE knows I am """"a little children""" and I would not understand if HE becomes HIFALUTIN. So...... HIS literal word like"""....and Judas went and hung himself""""...so THE HOLY WORD and THE HOLY SPIRIT protects me from """going and doing likewise""". LITTLE children have special protection from OUR FATHER. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤Not so sure that 7hearts are the perfect agape love of God , so just take it from little old me who loves you.
Revelation 20-3 states the nation's "should not be decieved" it does not say they won't be deceived. Revelation 20-8 after the end of Jesus 1000 year rule and satans 1000 year imprisonment it states he "will go out to decieve". It's bad now but it's going to get real bad when he's released.
Terrible. This is the result of preaching on eschatology from the NT alone while disregarding the prophets. You cannot reconcile this view to ANY OT prophets’ visions: Isaiah 63, Micah 5, Daniel 2, 7, 8, 9(especially), 11, Ezekiel 38-39, Zechariah 12-14, Psalm 2, Joel, & Habbakuk. Read these Scriptures and this false fantasy Amillennialism falls completely flat on its face. Voddie is great preaching the gospel. He should continue to do that. Because THOSE prophets tell us flat out that Messiah is COMING to CRUSH the serpents head, soak his robe in the blood of his wicked enemies, save the righteous and take His eternal Throne on YHWHs temple mount where His father AND servant David ruled.
Sorry but you're wrong about the rapture. There will be a rapture (Harpazo in Greek). Eschatology is not your strong suit. Tiff Shuttlesworth has 50 yrs of Eschatology studies on you. There will be a pre trib rapture and pre-millenillum. Pastor & Evangelist Shuttlesworth can explain it to you. Even those in your own camp ALL disagree with you.
I don’t agree with the hermeneutical approach to interpreting Revelation as a series of recapitulations. Also, I find him uncharacteristically hostile to the positions and their proponents that he is challenging, and to which he gives disingenuous summary. His rebuttal of the literal approach that intellectual consistency dictates that they must then call a key literally a key, for example, is itself an unfair and plainly wrong rendering of the literal approach. I was very disappointed.
One thing that really bothers me is how he always mocks those who believe even a little differently than him.... when he acknowledges that this is his opinion
The rapture is the biggest lie ever excepted by the church. The devil doesn't want the church to prepare for what is about to happen most don't think they will be here but they will those who persevere til the end will be saved. Jesus had to die so do we
His entire series of expositional sermons on Revelation is marvelous! Should cause us to love the Son of God even more.
One of the most concise sermons on this topic I've ever listened to. So glad you are airing it for some to hear for their first time!
Seems necessary with all that’s going on across the world stage.
Amen!
The most comprehensive sermon I have heard on this subject. I Have never been able to be comfortable with other exposition on this subject though I leave it in the Lord's hands and think as Paul Washer says that he is a Pan thinker on this, that it will all pan out according to the will of God.
I listened to the entire position. It's the first time I've actually heard someone defend this position. I've heard the position, but never in this detail. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to look towards my father to seek him if this is true or not.
I will say that so many verses come to mind suddenly that I am unable to place when I look at this position (example - Isaiah 65:17-25, Zechariah 14), but I haven't had time to fully absorb the teaching yet.
I used to be a dispensationalist, but I finally stopped caring about what was popular and wanted Truth, so I sought it and I could not deny the scriptures (Romans 9:31-32) even though it was uncomfortable.
Early Church history taught the position of post tribulation rapture. It took a long time for me to absorb that we have joined true Israel also based on scripture. I've always been taught to reject these things until someone came at me with scripture to back it up.
It's taken me years, seeking Truth, to change my position on things, but by God's grace, I want Truth. I will pray about this as well.
Understanding Eschatology is not a prerequisite to eternal life. There will always be disagreement in the understanding of Eschatology and it has been like that since the Holy Spirit helped the church fathers to put canon of the scriptures together.
Eschatology can either help bring comfort in your expectations of when Christ will return but not guarantee your salvation.
Now and meanwhile we all need to focus on proclaiming the good news of the gospel and we need to baptize people in the name of the father the son and the Holy Spirit.
@@john318john I hear you brother. I would add to what you said and say that we need to baptize people in the Holy Spirit as well.
This is where I struggle…. Our Glorious Lord, blessed us with discernment and I do believe that there are Teachers, like Voddie Baucham, who we can trust. Sound Doctrine is of the upmost importance for us and I learn from Pastor Baucham and Pastor MacArthur. Their theological teaching on this subject makes sense to me, however, their teachings are completely opposed to each other. I don’t know which way to go on this, but I’m convicted to just Trust Jesus Christ, our Lord. We must not argue about theological interpretations, amongst our fellow believers. Our Lord, is not the God of confusion, and I know that Victory is already won, in Jesus Christ, our Lord. Amen! Hallelujah! Let us trust Gods Will and timing, knowing our Salvation in Christ, while being salt and light to the world. Let us love others and preach the Good News, as Ambassadors of Christ. Sometimes, I feel unsure about so many debated theologies in Scripture, however, I will start with what I 100% do know to be true which is, Jesus Christ, was born of a virgin and is the Son of God. He lived a perfectly righteous life as a Man. He was innocent, yet crucified bearing our sins on the tree, suffering God’s wrath for our iniquities. He Gloriously Rose three days later, defeating sin and death, and gave us the only way to Eternal Salvation and Eternal Fellowship with our Lord. Amen! Hallelujah! Praise Jesus!
Unfortunately friend, as I found out, they are both false teachers along with Paul washer. They are calvinists, and lordship salvation heretics. They teach doctrine opposed to scripture and twist scripture to fit their own false works based Gospel. That we must work as well as believe to be saved. This is false. Ephesians 2:8-9. They say there must by works to prove your saved. This is wrong. We should and will change if we are born again, it is not a requirement to be saved, because if you have trusted Jesus alone, you have been born again, which is a one time irreversible event. You cannot lose your salvation, because it’s a free gift that you did nothing to earn yourself :) amen 🙏
I have admired and respected John MacArthur for decades, but have had to agree to disagree agreeably with his Dispensationalism. I'm with R.C. Sproul (who was a close friend of John MacArthur but who also disagreed with his Dispensational premillennialism), and with Voddie Baucham as I think amillennialism and Covenant Theology are far more consistent with Scripture and internally than Dispensational premillennialism or for that matter with historic premillennialism.
@@robinsonmitchell9995 all false teachers. Don’t be fooled, your works and repentance won’t save you 🤡
My heart broke over this sermon..you said it perfectly, we shouldn't argue but just trust God.
The discernment you talked about, i believe to be the holy Spirit. I am just in total pain now, because Voddie said " he believes in our current time in which we live in..the devil is bound.
I just pray i took that wrong. But if i didn't then there's huge biblical problems with him saying that. If thats true why does the new testament say " the devil goes too and frow looking for whom he may devour" if that was true the apostle wouldn't have said " resist the devil and he will flee from you " baucham needs to give a better understanding on his version of what the bounding of the devil actually means. And to say that the great commission couldn't happen unless the devil is currently bound is in itself a huge biblical problem. I so wish he'd do Q.&A's this is the man that preached the sermon of all sermons called "Brokenness"
I just hope i misunderstood or missed something. God bless you All.
The binding is limited
LORD JESUS OUR CHRIST thank YOU for giving Dr Voddie and GfBC wisdom to share with us. As the Book says we are truly blessed and loved by CHRIST to learn the amazing mysteries and workings and secrets of Heaven; indeed our CHRIST made us the friends of GOD. Thank you, thank you, thank you. AMEN.
"A thousand years second chance" Summed up the sermon for me.
Thankyou for tackling this subject Voddie, it's been avoided for centuries and opened up doors for false teachers.
The irony that Voddie is the false teacher 🤦♂️
Was just gonna say that
What??
@@Coveliohow so? End times issues are not essential.
@@thanosman3491 Voddie, Paul washer, MacArthur, etc are calvinist and lordship salvation heretics. Look up dispensations, we are saved today by grace through faith in Jesus finished work. It cannot be lost and it cannot be earned. It is revived as a gift once and for all when we believe on Jesus and what He has already done. That how one is born again, but these false teachers say you must also do x,y,z work to also be saved, which is false. We should live holy, they are works of discipleship which will not be rewarded if one is not born again.
Thank God for God.
Thank you so much for this instructive teaching. I have never believed dispensationalism, secret rapture, etc nor preterism, but now I know what I've believed has a name--amillennialism. I'm going to share this video with my Bible study group!
Don’t share false teaching
Be careful in sharing.
Amen! Dispensationalism is the most twisted lie that has been dominating churches but thank God that more people are starting to wake up and realize that its teachings of 3,4 2nd-comings, literal earthly kingdom that Jesus Christ nor the Bible ever mentions, some 7 year tribulation period that's not in the bible and the escape of that 7 year tribulation via "rapture" does not make sense and is a teaching that was introduced 160 years ago by Darby and Scofield.
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Praise be to God and Lord Jesus Christ. This is the most concise sermon on eschatology along with RC Sproul, Sam storms, Kim Ridldlebarger, GK Beale, Joel Beeke, John R Crosby, Sam Waldron and Mike Gerhardt. Revelation is best read and preached the way it's intended to be read and preached: as Doxology (not a go-to guide for those "left behind"), and Dr Voddie Baucham nails it with his God-given wisdom and knowledge.
That sermon is actually quite a revelation!
If you adopt the recapitulation interpretation as opposed to the chronological interpretation of Rev 19 and Rev 20 you have to explain this: The beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire in Rev 19 whereas Satan is cast into the lake of fire in Rev 20 “where the beast and the false prophet were,” which indicates that the events of Rev 20 follow Rev 19.
Also, it is difficult to accept the interpretation that Satan being sealed in a pit in 20:3 is to one specific purpose. The text doesn’t say Satan is free to wander about but has no authority to deceive nations, does it? Indeed, Revelation 12:9 describes Satan as the deceiver of the whole world. In Rev 13:14 the beast is deceiving those who dwell on the earth. And so on.
The CILIATE of the gentilitius are the definition of χίλιαἔτη, which is the original greek word used that speaks of "1000 years" and "millenial reign".
Please Abba Yahuah....cause eyes of YOUR people to see this and to study it out for themselves! All glory, power, praise and dominion be to Yahusha!!!
I’ve always been pre-millennial, however, lately I find myself questioning it and opening myself up to another belief. This is very helpful. But what from Voddie isn’t? lol
I have one of the greatest respects for pastor Bauchman. I have been so blessed by some of his teachings. Yet, my spirit stirs within me, (or better said) i am grieved.
For it so appears (And i pray i am wrong,) that Pastor Bauchman feels the binding of the devil is currently going on. The problem with that is my bible declares, that satan goes to and frow looking for who he might devour. If he was bound we wouldn't need to put on the armor of God. The apostle wouldn't have said, resist the devil and we will flee from you.
If he is bound currently how could he flee from anyone. Oh pastor Bauchman, this is most perplexing, i wish you would give a clearer sermon on this. Because if your wrong, than a false teaching was teached. I pray so hard i misunderstood or took it the wrong way. I am still patching up wounds from your sermon where you said "we shouldn't ask to know Gods will for us" oh lord my heart grieves, please show me what pastor bauchman is really saying..and if its what i originally thought it to be. Give me instruction. I understand I don't have to always agree with pastors teaching. But in this case, its one of your anointed, that i believe could be teaching something that I don't see in your holy word in the same manner. Open my understanding or instruct his to say in plan words this is what i meant. Bless him lord.
@KnowingGodExplorers Let me see if I can help you just a little. Satan is obviously bound. Before the resurrection, was God's Word and reign spread all over the earth or was it just in a teenie tiny nation called Israel? Yes there were a few throughout the land who worshipped the one true God, but Satan was given free reign over the majority of the earth's populace. But what happened when Satan was bound at the resurrection? A complete explosion of Christ's obvious reign over the entire globe, spreading to every tribe, tongue and nation. Satan was and is clearly, clearly bound and the gospel is unleashed all over the earth!
I would encourage you to not take words like "bound" and limit its meaning to what we assume such a word means. It is vital to understand that in apocalyptic literature, words are heavily symbolic (example: John "heard 144,000, and when I turned around he saw a number no on could count." So was it 144,000 or not? It wasn't. We don't take the literal, furthest possible meaning of 144,000 **in this context of apocalyptic literature**).
I agree. There are a multitude of scriptures that do not fit with Voddie's idea. To many to list
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He was clear. He points to the limited phrasing of bound from deceiving the nations. Then, he goes on to expound scripture of how other verses relate to that. From I saw Satan fall to having taken (past tense) to every people group(the word being used for nation.) The problem is twofold, one being that for most of church history, dispensationalism didn't exist let alone be the primary view, but two, that is incredibly arrogant for us to assume we can ve so sure of the most complex book, that we become so rigid on the topic.
If Satan was not "bound" yet, then none of us would be here today, Satan would have already destroyed the church, the earth and everything else.
Rev. 20 tells us just before the end of this age, Satan will be loosed from this "binding" and given power to destroy even the saints. Likewise, Jesus said in Mt. 24:21, 22 that if those days were not shortened, no flesh would survive, but for the elects sake, they will be shortened.
You don't even want to know the kind of destruction Satan is capable of, left to his own devices.
It sounds like you are looking for truth, but you are still guided by dispensational theology, which, in my opinion will only hinder your attempt to understand eschatology.
Hope this helps, it took me 3 years to leave behind my dispensational hermeneutic. Hope this helps, blessings.
Well done brother!
Amen brother Voddie!
In the words of Jesus, John 12:31 says "Now is the Judgement of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out." Quote Paul and Peter all you want, but Jesus Himself confirms what Voddie is teaching.
The Bible supports pre-wrath. Matt 24:31 and Dan 12:1 link to 1 Thess 4:16-17, meaning the “rapture” is after the Great Tribulation. 1 Thess 5:9 indicates the saved will not experience God’s wrath. Rev 9 is a key link. It is linked to Rev 7:1-4. Also Rev 9:13-16 is the completion of sealing and is linked to Rev 16:12-16 by the 6th angel. The 7th angel is when God’s wrath occurs.
The 7th Day Adventists and Iglesia Ni Cristo teach Jesus rules from heaven during the 1000 years. They both teach the church comes out of the Great Tribulation. Rev 21:1-4 links to Rev 7:13-17. Could explain the Holy City coming down and being “God’s camp” in Rev 20:8-9.
The big question is the martyrs in Rev 20:4 being the first resurrection. Do they go straight to the Holy City? It’s obvious that true believers have been killed since the first century and continue to be killed.
wish I could agree with it, Baucham is a great preacher, I just can't see it.
Think hard about.. eyelid flutter, first, then, with time, eyelid synapse muscle triggers will naturally occur...🤗 you're welcome.
I was afraid to see it too, because I thought I was going to be treated as a heretic or that it was sinful to think of something different than what I grew up "knowing". Yet, at the same time, what I knew didn't make much sense, so much so that the book was more of a fairy tale than a revelation to me and didn't want to read. But now with this new to me perspective but being taught for centuries (now I know). The book of revelation and it meaning it is so much clearer and now all the pieces fit in, (if you will). Not only that this has awaken a new desire to learn more and study more, the scriptures.
Augustinian gnostic teaching is all that this is
He's wrong. Everyone in his own camp ALL disagree with him. I can't believe he's let himself be deceived like that.
@@princeofpeaceproductions3506yep. I hate to say it.
In as much as i respect his view and effort to defend it, I lts a wrong view, but im thankful that someone has had time to expound on the view to make it clear what and why they believe in it
Because of what Jesus spoke in the parables of Matthew, and revelations speaking of this age and the Age to come is exactly why I think the "taking away" or rapture is the taking away of the wicked, like in the flood of Noah. and that will happen after the millennium, 2nd resurrection and white throne judgement. In the parables he says the Kingdom of heaven is likened unto various things, but the content of a lot of those parables referenced the changing of the age, and give us a lot of insight. Jesus told us to look into the parables for knowledge of the Kingdom.
Matthew 13 10:16 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear
While yes Christ comes and saves us, we are not the twelve. We still need to look in the parables for the knowledge, God speaks through his word and through these parables I believe our eyes can be opened.
so jesus lied when he talked about the Lord coming like a thief in the night and the one taken away is the wicked and not the righteous? God help us!
@@nycosplayernetworkcospodbe5265 no Jesus didnt lie. The "come as a thief in the night" verse has context around it.
Thessolonians 5
But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
So paul is saying what? The ones not in the dark it wont happen like a thief in the night.
The church has been lying for a long time. Scripture clearly states the wicked will be taken.
From Matthew, to revelations all the way back to genesis. in the days of Noah who was taken away the good or wicked?
proverbs 2:22 But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it. in the parables the tares are taken bound and burnt before the wheat is gathered into the barn...
Its plain as day brother.
The rapture was given specifically to Paul not to the twelve “the mystery”. It wasn’t spoken of in Matthew if you rightly divide the word it will clear things up.
@@mattschannel286 Where does the bible tell you that Paul alone was given the secret to the rapture?
Who taught you that? that is quite ignorant of what the bible tells you to be quite honest brother.
Multiple prophets received glimpses of the first resurrection, new kingdom and end time events.
Everything Yeshua taught was told before him in the prophets. including John after Paul which received a full view.
But you honestly believe that Paul alone was given the secret to the rapture, but the bible doesn't actually tell you that now does it?
John was given a full view, not a glimpse of the new kingdom, of the new heaven, new earth. The coming of Christ, ALL of the end time events, the first resurrection and the 2nd...But he wasn't given the secret to the rapture?
Follow your logic to its conclusion. It don't make sense and its not biblical, neither is a secret taking away of the church.
This is precisely why Apostle Paul said "Do not exceed what is written"
Finally! This sermon needs to be preached!
What an amazing sermon! Parents please take your kids out of the sanctuary when your kids are being disruptive it's common sense!
Common sense is Not Common.
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I think we might be seeing the beginning of his release. In the times we are living
I think we're very close to the transition, it will happen overnight but we won't really notice for a long time after but with no doubt the forchunes of the world as we know it will massively decline from the moment it transitions and the transition is progressional. Just look how far the Christian world has fallen the last 90 years as it's built up the world. More people recognize the mcds arche then Jesus Christ face now, I think he'll be free on earth soon.
Amen!!!!
Along with prayers for Israel, everyone needs to pray for Ben. That he accepts Jesus Christ as the messiah.
He would be an AWESOME addition to the family of Christ.
amen pray for Ben! We need minds like his
So, does this mean that we will go thru all that happens to the world during the trumpet and bowl judgements😢😳
Understanding Eschatology is not a prerequisite to eternal life. There will always be disagreement in the understanding of Eschatology and it has been like that since the Holy Spirit helped the church fathers to put canon of the scriptures together.
Eschatology can either help bring comfort in your expectations of when Christ will return but not guarantee your salvation.
Now and meanwhile we all need to focus on proclaiming the good news of the gospel and we need to baptize people in the name of the father the son and the Holy Spirit.
If this is the millennium, when was the tribulation and the reign of the anti-christ? When did the mark of the beast happen? When was there a single ruler of the world who brought peace? When was the 3rd temple built? When did the two prophets die, and how were they seen by everyone in the world? I never heard of any of these things happening.
The Great Tribulation was the sack of Jerusalem in 70 AD, an event that many Christians don't know much about, hence the confusion. Though the Great Tribulation is in the past, the current gospel age is marked with tribulation.
Just going to take a stab at this as someone who doesn't hold an Amil view and just found out Voddie was Amil so I watched this video. So, don't take this too seriously, I'm just using your comment as a test to see if I can articulate the Amil view on your questions.
-From his view I believe the tribulation would be now. As John says in Revelation 1:9 that he is a partaker in the tribulation.
-The anti-christ is a general belief that is anti-god or anti-Jesus, there isn't just one single anti-christ as stated in 1 John 2:18. "Antichrist is coming and many antichrists have come"
-The mark of the beast is the opposite of "The Mark Of God" which is also on our hands or forehead. Duet. 6:6-8 and multiple places in Revelation like 9:4. And the mark of God is anybody who follows and lives out their faith in God. So the mark of the best would be anybody who doesn't do that, they have chosen to take the mark of Satan by rejecting God.
-The "Single ruler" I'm not sure what he would say on this, maybe not just the Roman Empire or a person but probably more related to the individual spirit of the antichrist that has united all non-believers.
-The 3rd temple was built with us Christians who are now the temple of God. 1 Corinthians 3:16-17
-The two prophets likely represent two testimonies that satan seemingly defeated but came back to life through the Gospel? Maybe like when Hadrian in 130 AD tried to destroy the testimony of all the Christian sites by creating pagan temples on all of them, which only preserved their locations and were uncovered years later because they marked the locations (lol). Something like that but again their view is likely not 2 actual people but two ideas or themes. Also "seeing" would just refer to knowing something about it. Like a lot of people having heard the Gospel.
@MattWard89 I hear what you are saying, and I appreciate and listen to voddie as well. I just feel like the A-millenial and post-mellenial views use a lot of symbolism as opposed to taking the text literally. Their views seem like a stretch or mental gymnastics to make the text fit their views. I definitely could be wrong, but I just can't see how this is the millennium or how 70ad was the tribulation. Especially if you look to the old Testament for pictures of what the millennial kingdom will look like. I appreciate your time in answering my questions.
@@JesusSaves373 Yeah it's difficult but I think the difference is taking it "physically" vs "literally". Since all the main eschatology views agree that much of Revelations is symbolic, they merely disagree on particular points being symbolic. ie. Nobody thinks the sword coming out of Jesus' mouth is a "Physical" sword but everybody takes it literally that the Word of God and the power of Jesus' word is a sword as a concept. So, in this case, to take the passage literally would NOT mean taking it at face value but using the Bible's context as a whole to help interpret.
To me this seems to be the case with the ~10% people disagree on which is "Symbolic-Literal" vs "Physical-Literal" that all the views have a debate over. 1000 literally represents a long time or literally 1000 rotations around the sun as the main example.
Personally I've got to remain humble when studying all these because I was raised Pre-Mill Pre-Trib Dispensational and the way it was growing up was that that view was THE WAY to interpret it and it wasn't until I was an adult that I even heard of there being other views. Like, I was raised that if you had a different view of the pre-mid-post TRIBULATION it was basically a heresy. lol Let alone the millennium.
All that being said, I've spent a fair amount of time over the years trying to look into "what's right" and it's proven to be more difficult than I'd have thought. For example, the earliest christians 1,2,3 century believed in a physical reign or millennium. But NOT the same way most think for the pre-mil disp view. Then after a few hundred years it was majority post/A-mil until the 1800's when pre-mil disp came about.
Personally, I'm at peace with where I'm at now but I hold many of these views loosely since I could very well be wrong. One way or another we will find out for sure. lol
@MattWard89 I completely agree with you that this is an open handed issue. It should not divide the body of Christ. As I've heard said, I'll happily change my eschatology mid-air. I hope you have a blessed day and a merry Christmas!
Ah me everything Vodie preached I eagerly devoured until this. So what happened to Ezekiel's temple Ez 40-48? Did God just threw that in for filler. Read what the Apostle Paul says in Rom 11:1-25. Culminating with verse 25:
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
So what is this fulness of the Gentiles?
This is a good example of why everyone needs to be a student of scripture and not just blindly depend on pastors and teachers. The scriptures are not that hard to understand if one is born again led by the Holy Spirit.
Consider the following scriptures taking into consideration it has been almost 2000 years since Jesus' crucifixion:
Hos 6:1 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
Hos 6:2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
Hos 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.
2Pe_3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Amen!! Hallelujah!!
It does sound like this doctrine is setting people up for a false Christ doesn't it?
So many prophecies he never dared touch upon, that have yet to come to pass.
Agree with you. For amillennials prophecy in the OT is all about the Church. Which makes no sense.
Your on the. Right track
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The thousand years corresponds to the day of rest in the week of creation. It is literal. The numbers are literal- 12 gates, 12 foundation stones although symbolical are nevertheless literal.
Amen,pure evil will run wild.
Love Voddie his view on the time line, applying the New Testament with the Old Testament. Getting Daniel wrong. He added to the Bible as well. I dug into this weeks ago. I wish he was right but he is not on this. Refer you to someone Voddie respects very much, John MacArthur.
God bless you Voddie.
@iamkyledenton he didn't add anything
I love both men. I got saved under John Mac’s preaching over 30 years ago. I listen to his daily broadcast twice a day. Over time I came to the same conclusions as Voddie and Sam Storms. I don’t spiritualize some things quite as much as them.
@davidbanner77 you must have because he added his opinion. Also since you didn't catch this actually open your Bible and READ for yourself. Paul did say test the spirits this includes preachers ones that you may hold in high regard. Do realize they are human and are far from perfect. We all fall short this includes Voddie.
@@demontejohnson4102 yes he did his opinion and his interpretation. If you open the Bible for yourself and stop being a lazy Christian you will see/read what he reinterpreted. Do realize he's suppose to be the messenger not the message and NOT God! So he messed up already by getting the message wrong. Also look back on history. Test the spirits!
@@Andrea-xl6cj Hello, Well I've tested your spirit of slander and name calling, I'm not lazy whatsoever. Maybe rather than resorting to name calling and sinning against me (Galatians 6:1), respectfully and gently point out some areas where you say he is adding to the text and where you disagree. This is not his interpretation alone, it is covenantal theology, to which I am inclined to know as a faithful and a historic understanding of the text. Lets sharpen one another, not slander each other. Grace and Peace.
Crystal Clear Amen
Now; Amen, John 12;31
This is very difficult to follow, with so many ungodly ads interrupting the sermon.
The fact that I have to keep rewinding means I really need to heed the message.
I'm a pre- millennialist and I'm happy! Please don't confuse me! 😊
....and Voddie is one of my favorite preachers! 😊
Jesus WILL Save His Bride.
Amen. And not one of His sheep will be lost.
Amen! As a guy it does feel strange but yes! I am part of the bride of Christ.
He did not lose one on earth and while Hes in heaven weather people die in Him. He still hasnt lost anyone @patrickc3419
I struggle with eschatology. I was an atheist until February of 2019, when I had an audible experience from Him. I previously had an encounter with a demon whom seemed to offer me a deal, which I declined (spring 2014). It was one of those sleep paralysis apparition things. I remember thinking at the time, “If I believed in any of this, I would choose God.” That’s when it disappeared. It still took another 5ish years to make me a believer. Anyway, during that audible experience, one of the things He said to me was, “Something bad is coming.” He never said “rapture,” and it seems that when I read Scripture for myself, I drift toward a Preterist view. (Josephus reported an army being seen in the clouds when the Second Temple went down. I haven’t read Tacitus, but he’s supposed to have a similar account.) Anyway, I think that a lot of us are receiving end times dreams, Rapture dreams, or mere notions to that effect because we are approaching a critical period on par with such a time. My current suspicion is that those having rapture dreams in which they are taken up (as opposed to returned) are going to perish en masse in a nuclear war or comparable mass event. I could use prayers on this. I’ve never been able to find a proper teacher either. I get little nudges from Him, but not answers to all the questions that upset me… I’m kind of a brat that way, I suppose. Anyway, I could use some help here, if you happen to see this.
May GOD bless you and your loved ones, in Jesus’s name: Amen.
Amendment: How much time passed between the completion of Solomon’s Temple and the destruction of the Second Temple? Roughly 1,000 years? I’m probably wrong.
How anyone can say the devil is bound now is greatly deceived. I can't tell. The world is so evil, i literally can't tell. If he's bound, I'd hate to see what this world would look like when he's loose.
He is bound to not receive the nations/gentiles!
Glory!
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Also if we were living in the time of satan being locked up then why have we destruction and temptations of evil why after the resurrection was there still evil. The Lord's message Spreads because what God says is and can no one or thing stop it! Not because satan was locked up. Once again you change 1 thing you have to change all. I just can't and won't get behind that. Please realize you have pride and then pray the Lord Humbles you!
Who hardened Pharoah heart? satan or God? Your asking like Paul said in Romans 9:18-19
Just my pov
Amen!!!❤
The great commission is go out and make disciples of all nations. Not go out and spread the Gospel. He said the gospel will go to all the earth. You can not disciple non-believers. The difference is, we are told to go and make disciple of all nations. But the gospel will go to all nations. No direct commission as far as preaching the gospel. Yes, we as individuals testify about the Gospel of Christ. But there are those who's gift it is to preach the gospel in mass to the nations. But it is every believers job to disciple one another and to pray. Some plant, some water but I will add. But we all should disciple.
“Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world.”
1 Peter 5:8-9
As Voddie has said DEAD MEN DONT GRAB…….also it is true BOUND DRAGONS DONT PROWL….
My question is aren't people being deceived today?
It’s not people in particular that are referred to, it’s nations that are deceived to gather them together for battle. Which is exactly where we are right now.
@@doug2993 so he hasn't been locked away? I'm confused I'm new to the faith just trying to understand
@@jaqtsonfromthemist I think he was “bound”, but not anymore. Not in the way the Bible defines it.
I appreciate you sharing that you are new to the faith. Thank the Lord for that. Eschatology is the deep end of the pool. I would share, and maybe I should and will, in the future of what I think. I’ve been a believer for 33+ years. And I’ve been totally obsessed with eschatology. That has been my main focus for about the last 10 years. I highly recommend putting the Bible app on your phone and playing the KJV, play Isaiah to Revelation as many times as you can.
@@jaqtsonfromthemist I’m in the exact same boat as Voddie on eschatology, from what I’ve heard. Not quite to the point of spiritualizing quite as many things as he does. But what Voddie believes and teaches is definitely contrary to mainstream Christianity.
@@doug2993 thank you for the kindness and understanding. I do have the app but I haven't made it to Isiah yet
Judgment
Say what you want about amillennialism but to all who call Voddie a false teacher 1:00:00 i say this with love but think again
Recap: 16:28
If the book of Revelation is so difficult to understand, as Baucham says, why would Christ say in Rev.1:3: "Blessed are those who read, and hear, and keep the things which are written in this book."? Would God say we are blessed, by doing these things, if we could not understand it?
Not all will understand.
@@scotty7132 Well obviously non-believers will not understand. But believers can definitely understand it. This verse says so.
@@billmartinn9851What Voddie says makes sense in every way. I’m sorry that you don’t see that.
@@scotty7132 And I'm sorry that you don't see that it is not what the Bible truly teaches.
It’s really not hard to understand if you’re consistent in your hermeneutic.
I love Voddie, but he’s dead wrong in this sermon and on his eschatological views.
There’s no possible way we’re in the millennium today the Bible explains what such a time will look like and we’re in nothing close to that today.
Another big issue with thinking we’re in the millenial kingdom now too is Jesus isn’t physically reigning from David’s throne, from Jerusalem like he said he would.
There’s wayyy too many issues with the amillenial view.
Sorry Voddie I can't rock with you on this one .if My Lord Jesus Christ..the creator of the everything was reining right now this place would be vastly different..it's just that simple..
Also Jesus speaks about first binding the strong man before taking over his house..in other words rendering him unable to do nothing..if the devil was bound he wouldn't be able to do nothing.
P.s when Voddie is wrong like this it makes me say hmmm what else are you completely wrong about?
I still love him though cuz he's not a heretic and mostly preaches truth.!
The last video was chapter 17.
Why the skipping. 19 is a very important chapter.
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I love Voddie ton! But he’s dead wrong on his eschatology.
I appreciate the presentation of his views on eschatology, but I am not thrilled about the passive-aggressive way he put down pre-millennial adherents. He took quite a bit of time saying how he was shamed for not being pre-millennial and then turns around and shames pre-millennials for their interpretation. He even starts off by saying there are many interpretations by some of the most respected teachers we have (John MacArthur is one) but doesn't want to keep that respect in mind as he goes along.
Still, I liked being able to get his interpretation of this passage.
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My other word for figurative is complicated and my other word for literal is simple , the latter way was much the way Jesus liked it.❤
This is one of the things I disagree with Voddie. Post Millennialism does not make any sense to me at all.
He’s amil.
@@gfbc1689 I don't think so. What he is talking about here is post-mill which believe we ARE living in the millennial era before Christ comes.
Amil doctrine also says that Christ comes after the millennium.
@@GersonAlvarez yeah, I recently found out that amil and post mil are on the same page mostly. I don't agree with either of them.
Yeah, he's amil. The entire Revelation series is Amil.
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So Dr Baucham. Because you take the thousand year reign as not literal but an analogy because the book is full of analogies like we have in the parables. Not real events. So do we use our own wisdom to determine what is literal and what isn't. My humble opinion is every Christian should stop listening to sermons from teachers and preachers until or unless we ourselves spend a lot of time in the word, and then we can test what we hear.. And praying for God's wisdom and discernment. The confusion and strife experts bring to the church is mind boggling. Unless that is that the Holy Spirit will not teach us and only teach, preachers, teachers and theologians. No wonder the way is straight and the gate is narrow and few are that find it.
Your WILL be done!
Voddie speaks from a traditional reformed point of view. To believe that the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience, has been bound since the resurrection of Christ, and the millennium began spiritually 2,000 years ago reveals an ignorance of scripture. Your speech is urgently calling upon the audience to believe you, not the Bible. Augustine, the Catholic theologian, Calvin, Sproul, etc, were all amillennialists! You are a Baptist in name only! Messiah King Jesus will rule a literal, physical, earthly kingdom from Jerusalem for 1,000 years!
Consummation
Whatever that was it was not exegesis
This view does not allow for a faithful preaching on not only Revelation, but also Daniel, Ezekial, Isaiah, Zachariah, Amos, much of the Psalms, and many of Jesus' own teaching on the end times spoken of in the gospels. There are far more comprehensive, cohesive, and biblically based preaching on the issue to Christ's millennial reign that unifies bilical text without punting to mystery, over spiritualizing, allegorizing or blatant dismissal of hard to interpret text as "apocalyptic". A thorough detailed study accounts for every detail and verse spoke on in scripture is truly a blessing once a proper view of the coming Kingdom of Christ is understood. It is only until the church preaches this coming earthly millenial kingdom (not to overlook Christ's present heavenly reign) will Christ return for his people. Again, this is not a new novel view of the end times. The pretrib rapture of the church has been taught since Polycarp (student of John the Apostle) and Irenaeus (student of Polycarp). Replacement theology is unbiblical and has no place in the overarching scheme of the biblical context and message.
Classic premill is what scripture, I believe teaches. The pre-trib rapture is a deception. There is only one 2nd coming.
That is just nonsense…!This view totally fits with everything Jesus and the prophets taught!
Iraneaus was a heretic with one good point and the rest flaws.
The prophetic 1000 years millennium parallels the seventh day. YESHUA is coming soon!
Satan knew that he had but a short time because Satan knew the Scripture.
For instance, Exodus 20: 8,9 commands…
(8) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
(9) Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
The millennium proves that “Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:“ was a command meant not only for humanity, but also for Satan.
Because at the end of 6000 years (his six days), Satan during millennium (1000 years/seventh day) will be forced to stop his work and rest.
The sabbath millennium will certainly be kept holy when disobedient Satan is bound, and the disobedient wicked remain bound in their grave until time for their resurrection.
When I looked up the end of 6000 years, it is said to be between 2028 and 2033. Depending upon accuracy - that could be from 4 years to 9 years.
2 Timothy 2:15 study to show thy self approved unto God a workman who needeth not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth. I love Voddie as a brother in Christ but this is false teaching. He believes the kingdom is here but it was put on hold at the stoning of Steven. Then Paul went out to gentiles with the mystery “the body of Christ” Romans thru Philemon. For if the mystery was made known they wouldn’t have crucified the Lord of Glory. Hebrews thru Jude is for Israel not to the body. Which explains why doctrine doesn’t match to what Paul preached. The must be divisions the Holy Bible is for us but not all is to us. God deals with men differently during certain times.
I guess according to Voddie God doesn't mean what He says, and doesn't say what He means. What hermeneutical method is he using? The tossed salad method, I guess.
Having ADD I found it very difficult to concentrate on the sermon due to the background noise of coughing and crying babies in the sanctuary. I couldn't even finish listening as this distraction never stopped. Was there not a separate room/nursery that a parent could go to with a crying child to calm it down? And with the amount of coughing that went on I would suspect that some of those babies were actually ill and should have been kept from infecting other adults or children. I've never been in a church where parents stayed in the service with their fussy coughing children disturbing the rest of the congregates not to mention the person preaching.its rude and no excuse for it.
Do you think Jesus would have sick babies leave one of his sermons ? No
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The AM will say for THE little "i" the CHILD. LIKEWISE THE little "i" for the AM. CREATION and yet to come! Come here!!!! How else ye exist? Beloved what is a New Table? LET us create MEN in our own Image. What is a Covenant without to share with another? From shared the I AM. For the I Covenant with the AM. Now ABLE TO share. Feet resting upon the very tip of time. Some will say you never been on my shoes? Mileage from thy feet is recognize! Unto all who received. Indeed freely receives! A little child born in this world will say, what is being burned? Able to stand without being consumed? Students why being consumed only belongs...belongs? Who love with patience, mercy, and grace. Washer of feet of neighbors and wiping their tears from their eyes! From before all ye ALL ARE born! From being born, to crawling, to walking, and till now thy feet resting upon the NEW very tip of time. Recognize the mileage from one's another's feet. How else? The little "i" will say may I washed my Heirs FEET UPON ALL DRY GROUNDS NOR THE WORLD? Not according to Offsprings PERISH! From here "NEW MINDS"! FROM OFFSPRINGS PERISH TO OFFSPRINGS "PRESERVE"! SPECIALLY questions desolation is near? Can desolation be changed? Resting upon the NEW Table made from a hand without blood stains upon HIS hand. Together! What is a Covenant without to share with another? Nor what holds all these?
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The next event on God's prophetic calendar, is the Rapture of the church, all true believers. Then the 7 year tribulation period, with the rise of the antichrist and his one world government, then Christ's physical return to earth, His 2nd coming, to put an end to the war of Armageddon, then the literal 1000 year reign on earth of Jesus Christ, the millennial period, then the great white throne judgement of all unbelievers, and then the new Heaven and new Earth, eternity.
Listen to the Sermon carefully.
Arnold Murray would have to denounce his earth age teachings however he would be correct on most of his Revelation teaching.
Voddie is an Instrument like many Pastors for Truth.
@@johngarnto9016 I have listened. I hear no mention of Rev.4:1, and Rev.3:10. And what is Mr. Baucham's interpretation of Rev.20:6?
NO! YOUR JUST WRONG DUDE!
Your speech is not very Christ like.
Mr. Martin, we've all heard the Dispensational theology, which is why we no longer partake in its errors. You are welcome to disagree with Voddie, as the doctrine of eschatology is not essential for salvation.
And your claim of 11 years of studying the topic, affords you the ability to hold to your conclusion.
But to sit here and call out one of the greatest preacher's of our time as wrong, shows everyone that you're closed minded and that you are simply trolling.
You stated the other day that Revelation should be taken literally. That statement alone shows you "want" it to be so literal that you're willing to solely view it with a very flawed presupposition.
For instance, the 144,000.you probably believe will be the jews "saved" during a tribulational period after your secret rapture. The problem is, where will you find 144k Virgin males to repent and believe? Why are women excluded? And the list is out of birth order. As the 66th book.in our Canon, it's the only one that is out of birth order. For a jew, this would render John non-credible.... unless it's symbolic. I know, I'm Jewish.
Perhaps you should move along. I'm sure David Jeremiah's fan page would welcome your sentiments. But this constant appeal to your flawed eschatological take is wearisome.
Good news is we probably share essential doctrinal agreements. So, we'll see you in Glory land where none of this matters per our salvation.
I've followed you all the way to this point. But now you're interpreting the scriptures with opinion. Unless it clearly states that this is not literal which it does not you can't say this. Let's first start with Jesus said the time and the hour NO ONE knows but the Father! Because man classified each book as he pleases does not make it fact! The Bible is to be literal. If you start saying it's not literal then in your own words you are discrediting the whole of the Bible. You tear down every argument for the Bible for God for Jesus for The Holy Spirit. Please don't grieve the Holy Spirit with man's interpretation. Just because it may scare or even increase your content with these things. Please stick to the scriptures and read exactly as it says. Don't reinterpret. Also remember don't hate the sinner hate the sin. Jesus didn't go around harshly bashing. I too am growing in the spirit each day the Lord allows me to even take a second of breath. I still through Christ Jesus realize that I have so many fallacies and have never nor will never be perfect. I know that doing the ministry of Paul and Peter they did not have seminaries and schools to help them Study and break down these scriptures from what we call now the New Testament. These where revealed to them by Jesus and through Jesus. So why then do we have schools with hypocrisy. "Pastors, preachers and teachers" that all have there spin on these texts? I know this the Bible says what it means. If it is allegory it will clearly say prior to reading allegory. It does not. You yourself have brought into the deception. I'll pray for you. You have pride to its very clear. What you say is not absolute. It is not final. And tell me this if Satan has been bound up already why was there the crusades, waring over lands countries and kingdoms? Why was there the inquisitions and such unthinkable torture in the beginning until the end of the middle ages or such evil after the fall of the Roman empire. No I am not a philosophy student. I don't even have a degree. But I have faith and belief in the one true savior Jesus Christ I believe in God creating the world in 6 days and that on the 7th he rested. I believe Jesus is God. I believe that the Holy Spirit was with Daniel. I believe that prior the Jesus saving my life from the wrath of God I was dead in my sins. I believe that Job was a faithful servant. You can take your wisdom scriptures and I'll take the unadulterated Bible(s). Please just stop/don't dilute the Bible and just teach it correctly! Remember you will be held to a higher fault. You have a flock to Teach. Don't mislead God's sheep. Please!
Dearest Brother Baucham Sir, Are you okay ? Please submit to a Godly older man to mentor you. You're not too old or wise to have or need a mentor. VODDIE DEAR VODDIE..... i have been blessed for years by your teaching but this one..........?
Since my baby days in Christ, I decided to take what the bible says as literally as possible and if THE LORD wants me to read into it figuratively, HE WILL SAY, because HE knows I am """"a little children""" and I would not understand if HE becomes HIFALUTIN. So......
HIS literal word like"""....and Judas went and hung himself""""...so THE HOLY WORD and THE HOLY SPIRIT protects me from """going and doing likewise""". LITTLE children have special protection from OUR FATHER.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤Not so sure that 7hearts are the perfect agape love of God , so just take it from little old me who loves you.
Wow. I disagree
You don't know if its a literal key or not. Or literal chains. You could be right or wrong. And i don't want to hear commentary from others.
An interesting sermon on the millennium but I have to agree to disagree on this.
Hal Lynsey, John Hagee
What about Hal Lindsey and John Hagee?
Revelation 20-3 states the nation's "should not be decieved" it does not say they won't be deceived.
Revelation 20-8 after the end of Jesus 1000 year rule and satans 1000 year imprisonment it states he "will go out to decieve". It's bad now but it's going to get real bad when he's released.
Terrible.
This is the result of preaching on eschatology from the NT alone while disregarding the prophets.
You cannot reconcile this view to ANY OT prophets’ visions: Isaiah 63, Micah 5, Daniel 2, 7, 8, 9(especially), 11, Ezekiel 38-39, Zechariah 12-14, Psalm 2, Joel, & Habbakuk. Read these Scriptures and this false fantasy Amillennialism falls completely flat on its face.
Voddie is great preaching the gospel. He should continue to do that.
Because THOSE prophets tell us flat out that Messiah is COMING to CRUSH the serpents head, soak his robe in the blood of his wicked enemies, save the righteous and take His eternal Throne on YHWHs temple mount where His father AND servant David ruled.
Sorry but you're wrong about the rapture. There will be a rapture (Harpazo in Greek). Eschatology is not your strong suit. Tiff Shuttlesworth has 50 yrs of Eschatology studies on you. There will be a pre trib rapture and pre-millenillum. Pastor & Evangelist Shuttlesworth can explain it to you. Even those in your own camp ALL disagree with you.
I don’t agree with the hermeneutical approach to interpreting Revelation as a series of recapitulations. Also, I find him uncharacteristically hostile to the positions and their proponents that he is challenging, and to which he gives disingenuous summary. His rebuttal of the literal approach that intellectual consistency dictates that they must then call a key literally a key, for example, is itself an unfair and plainly wrong rendering of the literal approach. I was very disappointed.
One thing that really bothers me is how he always mocks those who believe even a little differently than him.... when he acknowledges that this is his opinion
The rapture is the biggest lie ever excepted by the church. The devil doesn't want the church to prepare for what is about to happen most don't think they will be here but they will those who persevere til the end will be saved. Jesus had to die so do we
amen!
I want to do a video about what Jesus has told me about the end you think I should?
lol you’re actually the one deceived by Satan in believing that.
So Enoch and Elisha died?
So the people who persevere to the end will die? You make zero sense. Does the remnant die to?
I dont agree with this at all
Thanks for listening.
I’m pretty certain God isn’t spreading his gospel through churches who don’t follow all 10 commandments by blatantly ignoring the 4th commandment.
"Left Behind".. that's where I tell my chiropractor the pain is.