Slow Down to Go Fast: Goodguys Del Mar Autocross, with a crash

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • This video of six competitors'runs at the April 2, 2022 Goodguys Del Mar Nationals autocross ends with a truck skidding through the shutdown area and into a double concrete wall.

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  • @wakeupamerica4610
    @wakeupamerica4610 2 роки тому +68

    ...THAT WHITE MAVERICK THO...!!!

    • @Mercmad
      @Mercmad 2 роки тому +2

      Nice driving too!.

    • @TenTenFarms
      @TenTenFarms 2 роки тому +2

      Agreed

    • @russellcaldarola9707
      @russellcaldarola9707 2 роки тому +4

      Would like to know his time?

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому +3

      Isn't that Ford Maverick cool? I still remember when those 70s Maverick economy cars were new. The massive transformation of this one into a ground-pounding beast is impressive.
      Jan

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому +5

      Russell,
      I was wondering the same thing about that Maverick's impressive run, so I just had a look at my unused wild footage: 44.840 + one cone. My footage of the time clock was really shakey, which is probably why I did not include it in my edited video.
      Jan

  • @somedude10324
    @somedude10324 2 роки тому +5

    That course was terrible. I'm really amazed they would run an event on that course, and with all those concrete barriers so close. Zero shutdown area after the fastest part of the course. Absolutely wrong.

    • @scoutswimmer14
      @scoutswimmer14 2 роки тому +1

      It’s amazing 60 other drivers running harder and much faster stopped……🙄

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому +1

      Goodguys has been running basically this same autocross course on this lot for several years. I competed here for several years myself, but I was always very careful. Most drivers do avoid the walls.
      Jan

    • @KDS2331
      @KDS2331 2 роки тому

      @@scoutswimmer14 agreed!!!!

  • @WildcatWarrior15
    @WildcatWarrior15 2 роки тому +4

    Watch the drivers head slap from such a low speed impact. God Bless the HANS Device. At this level of autocross, it might be necessary to require. Especially around so many barriers.

  • @funone8716
    @funone8716 2 роки тому +5

    And that folks, is how Dale broke his neck. Scary stuff.

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      As I wrote in my reply to another commenter:
      These sorts of accidents where an automobile occupants' head is violently thrust forward and back, especially while wearing a heavy helmet, can cause lasting physical injuries.
      I've had a couple situations in my life when my head was snapped forward and back in automobiles: once is an accident, where my Datsun 280Z 2+2 was rear-ended and I was shoved through an intersection; and once when I took a Press ride in the passenger seat of a professional off-road truck at a former off-road motorsports park named "The Quarry" in San Diego County. The first time I think I got whiplash. The second time, I felt like my neck was literally going to break, over the course of the 'routine' run through the course. To this day I still have range of motion issues with my neck.
      I have never worn a HANS Device but perhaps they should be just as mandatory as a helmet in all forms of motorsports - even amateur.
      Jan

  • @2manyturbos
    @2manyturbos 2 роки тому +5

    Exactly. A Barracuda also crashed into a barrier right after the stop timer at the same event.

    • @scoutswimmer14
      @scoutswimmer14 2 роки тому

      If you listen to the Cuda wreck he throttled into it, never even hit the breaks

    • @scoutswimmer14
      @scoutswimmer14 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/D1LnSvEVVN0/v-deo.html

    • @austinrode3974
      @austinrode3974 2 роки тому +1

      @@scoutswimmer14 his gas pedal actually broke and got stuck under the breaks so the harder he pressed the brakes the more it throttled. The guy had the car since near new

    • @JimHerbertOutdoors
      @JimHerbertOutdoors 2 роки тому +1

      @@austinrode3974 😭

    • @dubiousf00d
      @dubiousf00d 2 роки тому

      I just watched that one. Its heartbreaking. What a loss.

  • @drewmurray2583
    @drewmurray2583 2 роки тому +5

    Wow did you see how hard his head snapped forward? Body held tight by the harness but the weight of that helmet pulled his head forward more!

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому +5

      Drew, as I wrote in my replies to other commenters:
      These sorts of accidents where an automobile occupants' head is violently thrust forward and back, especially while wearing a heavy helmet, can cause lasting physical injuries.
      I've had a couple situations in my life when my head was snapped forward and back in automobiles: once is an accident, where my Datsun 280Z 2+2 was rear-ended and I was shoved through an intersection; and once when I took a Press ride in the passenger seat of a professional off-road truck at a former off-road motorsports park named "The Quarry" in San Diego County. The first time I think I got whiplash. The second time, I felt like my neck was literally going to break, over the course of the 'routine' run through the course. To this day I still have range of motion issues with my neck.
      I have never worn a HANS Device but perhaps they should be just as mandatory as a helmet in all forms of motorsports - even amateur.
      Jan

  • @garykboy4503
    @garykboy4503 2 роки тому +8

    He came in like a wrecking ball 😂😂😂

  • @nessie42786
    @nessie42786 2 роки тому +11

    Listen closely it sounds like a hung throttle. Sounds like he was still in it or blipping it before impact.

    • @MH-dl4vc
      @MH-dl4vc 2 роки тому

      Good ear, throttle hung for sure

    • @molnarrobert1893
      @molnarrobert1893 2 роки тому

      No its just engine brake what you hear.

    • @nessie42786
      @nessie42786 2 роки тому

      @@molnarrobert1893 oh so he was down shifting. Bet that was some fancy foot work. On the brakes, heel toe rev matching. Your probably right.

  • @RandysFiftySevenChevy
    @RandysFiftySevenChevy 2 роки тому +2

    Did you see their heads whip forward then back from the weight of the helmets?
    Im getting a Hans device.

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      I agree with you Randy. As I wrote in my replies to other commenters, these sorts of accidents where an automobile occupants' head is violently thrust forward and back, especially while wearing a heavy helmet, can cause lasting physical injuries.
      I've had a couple situations in my life when my head was snapped forward and back in automobiles: once is an accident, where my Datsun 280Z 2+2 was rear-ended and I was shoved through an intersection; and once when I took a Press ride in the passenger seat of a professional off-road truck at a former off-road motorsports park named "The Quarry" in San Diego County. The first time I think I got whiplash. The second time, I felt like my neck was literally going to break, over the course of the 'routine' run through the course. To this day I still have range of motion issues with my neck.
      I have never worn a HANS Device but perhaps they should be just as mandatory as a helmet in all forms of motorsports - even amateur.
      Jan

  • @hectorraigosa7149
    @hectorraigosa7149 2 роки тому +2

    Really like the appearance and stance of that truck.. shame accident happened.. but that's part of it.. you just never know

  • @pizzasubs
    @pizzasubs 25 днів тому +1

    Dont know if this is like mine, but if a accidednt happens like this, guessing that the whole event has to be totally stopped, a whole bunch of paper work has to filed out, pictures must be taken of the accident and whatever else. right?

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  23 дні тому

      I'm sure that is true, and Goodguys no longer uses that section of the Del Mar Fairgrounds parking lot for their event autocross.
      Jan

  • @Sky1
    @Sky1 2 роки тому +1

    Back wheels still turning. Did he not push in the clutch or something?

  • @Kp61dude_
    @Kp61dude_ 2 роки тому +1

    Second video of the same show that involved a crash… lots of carnage.

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому +1

      The Barracuda's crash looked more violent.
      Jan

  • @coldstne1
    @coldstne1 2 роки тому +8

    Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall and torque is how far you push the wall. Either way another sweet square body gone. Glad everyone is ok.

    • @dnews7460
      @dnews7460 2 роки тому

      I'm partial to the C10 as I have two...a 67 and 69......BUT....that Maverick ain't no joke!!!

  • @aaronmerchant2769
    @aaronmerchant2769 2 роки тому +1

    How come it's still too hard to understand that you can't steer when you locked up

  • @peterrivney552
    @peterrivney552 2 роки тому +3

    The pick-up truck looks great are you going to get it fixed or keep it that way??? Use a Honda or some junker to practice with first I would never take a chance of putting my cars out on a course like that it only takes one error and look what you end up with ....

    • @danielbaugher1798
      @danielbaugher1798 2 роки тому

      practicing with a honda would make it worse lol going from something lightweight that handles good and can stop to a rwd boat with 5 times the horse power is just asking for problems

  • @burnnc10454
    @burnnc10454 2 роки тому +1

    That sucks, looks like it hurt a lil bit!

  • @rags-fv6ko
    @rags-fv6ko 2 роки тому +1

    Dang sad thing to see hard work goes down the drain. What’s up with that camaro stock suspension tires etc

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      Rags,
      One of the nice things about amateur motorsports is that they often are "Run what you brung" kinds of events. Whether you compete in an incredibly well-handling, purpose-built competition vehicle or a bone-stock economy car, you may well learn how your car handles at its (and your) limits, which can make you a better and a safer driver.
      Jan

  • @zydecbro
    @zydecbro 2 роки тому +2

    RIP C10

  • @donaldtate3372
    @donaldtate3372 2 роки тому

    Audience, all the cars were super nice; however, the blue truck at 5:08 just didn't have all disc brakes. Wow, he just f%&ked his truck up...Wipe out!!!!

  • @davidg.9446
    @davidg.9446 2 роки тому +2

    It's really too bad the driver of the truck didn't have any driving lessons . When you lock your brakes up you cannot turn . So many times racing formula cars I was in that same predicament . I learned that as soon as you lock up your wheels you need to let off on the brakes so you can turn and then re apply . All that has to be done in a split second . This guy had plenty of time to let off on the brakes and steer out of that situation . That decision to stomp on the brakes and hold them down was his downfall. So sad .

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      I think it's called 'the red mist.'
      Jan

  • @marshaablowitz3597
    @marshaablowitz3597 2 роки тому +1

    I've never seen this type of racing. Too bad about the crash.

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Marsha. This is what I used to do for many years. I even autocrossed on this course in previous years, but i have not autocrossed in quite a while since then.
      Jan

  • @marscarguy1848
    @marscarguy1848 2 роки тому +2

    Stuck throttle. And that is not enough track for American cars to do that type of racing. There's no room for error.

    • @scoutswimmer14
      @scoutswimmer14 2 роки тому

      The other 60 drivers running faster and harder figured it out

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      @@scoutswimmer14 The thing is, with such a short shutdown area, there is little margin of error for dealing with a mechanical failure.
      Jan

    • @scoutswimmer14
      @scoutswimmer14 2 роки тому

      @@AutoMatters dozens and dozens of other drivers did it and like with the Cuda, where a throttle got stuck under a break, the amount of shut down area needed Cant reasonably be planned for

  • @rhettcorbett3346
    @rhettcorbett3346 2 роки тому +1

    Same corner as the Barracuda ??????

  • @marknova420
    @marknova420 2 роки тому

    Locked up the brakes and drove straight into a wall. good job

  • @stickboy7117
    @stickboy7117 2 роки тому +1

    A squealing tire is a happy tire

  • @stoveguy2133
    @stoveguy2133 2 роки тому +2

    Dayum. Watch the drivers neck snap forward. No Hans I guess.

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      Correct, no Hans device was worn, as far as I could see. As I wrote in my replies to other commenters, these sorts of accidents where an automobile occupants' head is violently thrust forward and back, especially while wearing a heavy helmet, can cause lasting physical injuries.
      I've had a couple situations in my life when my head was snapped forward and back in automobiles: once is an accident, where my Datsun 280Z 2+2 was rear-ended and I was shoved through an intersection; and once when I took a Press ride in the passenger seat of a professional off-road truck at a former off-road motorsports park named "The Quarry" in San Diego County. The first time I think I got whiplash. The second time, I felt like my neck was literally going to break, over the course of the 'routine' run through the course. To this day I still have range of motion issues with my neck.
      I have never worn a HANS Device but perhaps they should be just as mandatory as a helmet in all forms of motorsports - even amateur.
      Jan

  • @tommyhunter8197
    @tommyhunter8197 2 роки тому +1

    Well, that looked expensive!

  • @chrisparish4668
    @chrisparish4668 2 роки тому +1

    Dang see that hood fly off, good enough to scalp somebody.

  • @joechancio5177
    @joechancio5177 2 роки тому +1

    That wing on the vette is just silly. I thought i was going take off fpr a flight😂🤣

  • @a.k.a.A.E.
    @a.k.a.A.E. 2 роки тому

    what a race !!! for all the cars.
    the c10 needs better brakes !

  • @xxsekoxx
    @xxsekoxx Рік тому

    No autocross event should look like this. Surrounded by buildings, concrete, people? Nope

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  Рік тому

      After having their autocross here for many years (I entered it myself several times), GoodGuys moved it to a different location.

  • @curtisendicott5989
    @curtisendicott5989 Рік тому +1

    I’m sorry but it looks like if they would have got off the brakes they could have went left to avoid it

  • @tunaglove
    @tunaglove 2 роки тому +2

    Parking lot racing? Whats the point really?

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      Potentially less expensive for competitors? Renting a race track is expensive.
      Jan

  • @carparkingmultiplayer1mobi675
    @carparkingmultiplayer1mobi675 2 роки тому +1

    Rip to the truck if it was Totaline

  • @maximuskhann5318
    @maximuskhann5318 2 роки тому

    He was going, So smoothly, But in the end, He messed up , With little over speed.

  • @Panthercholo
    @Panthercholo 2 роки тому +1

    Cool

  • @rutiloramirez7277
    @rutiloramirez7277 2 роки тому +1

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @luisrizzo979
    @luisrizzo979 2 роки тому

    Y era lo mas provable que esto pasara... si es la competencia mas estupida que pueden hacer.....

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      auto_awesome
      Luis,
      Goodguys Autocross ha corrido aquí en este curso básico durante varios años. Si bien esto sucede ocasionalmente, la mayoría de los conductores no chocan contra las paredes aquí.
      Jan

  • @ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm
    @ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm 2 роки тому +1

    them pick-up`s are built like crap the chassie frame is hopeless built so weak and bend like tinfoil ! full chassie is best

  • @brianhoffman4861
    @brianhoffman4861 2 роки тому

    And hit the wall

  • @yoingyoyo
    @yoingyoyo 2 роки тому

    😢

  • @philipschrantz8402
    @philipschrantz8402 2 роки тому

    Horrible course site and layout. Dangerous for everyone.

  • @wakeupbreathing
    @wakeupbreathing 2 роки тому

    the yellow corvette has a wing that does ZERO for down force…

  • @austinrode3974
    @austinrode3974 2 роки тому +4

    Goodguys sucks! There tracks are boring. They don't care about driver or car safety. I hope there events cease to exist cause every time someone wrecks a car. I blame the event more then drivers. Autocross should be the safest place to push a cars limits and goodguys ruins it every year

    • @scoutswimmer14
      @scoutswimmer14 2 роки тому +1

      And there it is….. the good guys haterism is the biggest narrative at play here. 😂😂

    • @g8autox
      @g8autox 2 роки тому +2

      @@scoutswimmer14 The problem is, when courses like this are allowed to happen, and the inevitable happens where drivers smash into walls, how long do you think a venue is going to allow it to continue? And then what hope does any other organization have with said venue to host an autocross?
      That’s the issue. People like Goodguys are ruining it for the good guys.

    • @scoutswimmer14
      @scoutswimmer14 2 роки тому +1

      @@g8autox the problem is, when 50-60+ other drivers running hotter, way faster runs listen to instructions and stop and one guy doesn’t…the guy who locked the brakes up on his truck is ruining it for the “good guys”…..you’re guys bias toward the events coordinators is so blatant and transparent you’re literally abandoning critical thought.
      Next.

    • @derriklee287
      @derriklee287 2 роки тому

      @@g8autox maybe if dumb mother fuckers used return springs on their carburetors and functioning brakes they wouldn't be crashing into walls ya fucking moron. Plenty of cars went out and didn't crash so you're dumb.

    • @austinrode3974
      @austinrode3974 2 роки тому

      @@scoutswimmer14 no other organization puts k rails 10 feet front everywhere on the course

  • @I.Live4oldcars.prospecting
    @I.Live4oldcars.prospecting 2 роки тому

    Shit track. Should be called the vehicle destroyer track. Can't understand why they put concrete everywhere.

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      Dean,
      The concrete helps to protect the fans, course workers and private property from wayward competitors, although in this case not even the concrete barriers could protect a nearby motorhome from flying truck parts Luckily no one was in front of that motorhome.
      Jan

    • @I.Live4oldcars.prospecting
      @I.Live4oldcars.prospecting 2 роки тому

      @@AutoMatters why can't they use water barriers or even tyres? Something less destructive.

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      Dean,
      The reason might have been because that is what was readily available at the Del Mar Fairgrounds. If cost were no object, they could have lined the course with Safer Barriers, like they use on NASCAR and other tracks, but cost IS a factor.
      Jan

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому +1

      Dean,
      To add to my reply to you, last Sunday I watched a drifting demonstration at the annual "Fabulous Fords Forever" event at Irwindale Speedway in Southern California. Coincidentally, while I was recording video, one of the drift cars suffered a steering failure and crashed into a concrete barrier - again doing significant damage to the vehicle. I only had a wide angle lens with me, since I went there to shoot the car show and did not know there would be drifting, too. If I can crop the video enough and it looks okay, I will probably post that here.
      Jan

  • @itsruf1
    @itsruf1 2 роки тому

    Observation: The yellow corvette with the ridiculous whale tail.
    Was anyone impressed? Me neither.

  • @SleepyUncleSam
    @SleepyUncleSam 2 роки тому +62

    Front brakes were locked up, rear wheels were still pushing it into the wall

    • @bruce5405
      @bruce5405 2 роки тому +14

      I noticed that too.

    • @chrishultgren777
      @chrishultgren777 2 роки тому +12

      Driver tried to open it all the way up, then panicked and locked it up. 'Bout $50K down the drain.

    • @SleepyUncleSam
      @SleepyUncleSam 2 роки тому +17

      @@chrishultgren777 looks more like the throttle stuck, he had the front wheels turned full lock away from the wall and the rear tires where still pushing it forward, he never let off the throttle until the truck shut off at impact

    • @dormantmenace
      @dormantmenace 2 роки тому +10

      @@SleepyUncleSam dude just panicked and stood on the brakes end of story. They may have bin poorly proportioned. But he should have 1 looked for a escape route via running over cones and 2 pumped the pedal as soon as the locked up. Stopping almost never works. Best to look for a exit route. Doesn't matter wich way the wheels are turned if they are locked up. The real wheel just weren't locked up and free spinning.

    • @straybullitt
      @straybullitt 2 роки тому +8

      @@dormantmenace
      I think that he was driving two-footed, one on the brake, one on the gas, got confused at the finish, and never moved his feet over to the left one pedal, to depress the clutch and the brake to be able to stop.
      It looked like he was stomping on the brake and the gas at the same time.
      This is why heel-to-toe is the preferred technique, as it keeps your left foot free to quickly operate the clutch.

  • @nunya5891
    @nunya5891 2 роки тому +51

    You would think they would have a longer run off area for the stop.

    • @davidcisneros1429
      @davidcisneros1429 2 роки тому +4

      They should have calculated the maximum possible speed at the end and then added the correct breaking numbers based on the national traffic safety administration's recommended minimums for breaking distance.
      Bummer.

    • @mvela1235
      @mvela1235 2 роки тому

      Yeah, you would think

    • @kevindwelle1625
      @kevindwelle1625 2 роки тому

      I agree 100%! Plus the Chevy C10 owner should have installed rear Disc Brakes. If you look carefully his rear tires never stopped turning. In Autocross and Solo 2 you need superior braking power...

  • @jeffschmidt4299
    @jeffschmidt4299 2 роки тому +48

    These Good guys "autocross" courses are the worst. Why would anyone want to risk their expensive build on a postage stamp sized area surrounded by concrete barriers and filled with every single cone they could find. I just don't get it.

    • @chrishultgren777
      @chrishultgren777 2 роки тому +3

      Being a race car driver is harder than it looks.

    • @dentonthomas5622
      @dentonthomas5622 2 роки тому +7

      I agree. These events should be held at actual tracks. At least you'll travel 50 yards before hitting the wall.

    • @kylemlm
      @kylemlm 2 роки тому +5

      Well said..

    • @michaeltyre38
      @michaeltyre38 2 роки тому +3

      That is stupid after it happened one time I would lobby for a common sense change !

    • @dormantmenace
      @dormantmenace 2 роки тому +10

      Dude panicked and stood on the brakes. He should have pumped them as soon as they locked up. 2ndly stopping should always be the last resort. You look for a escape route. Stopping almost never works in these situations. He could have ran over literally 100 cones and came out better

  • @xvadripzx
    @xvadripzx 2 роки тому +6

    Why do people laugh when you wreck your shit? People are mean dude

  • @Jeff-kz5kl
    @Jeff-kz5kl 2 роки тому +20

    Yeah, let's put a wall 50 feet from a high speed finish line.

    • @derriklee287
      @derriklee287 2 роки тому +2

      Nobody forced them to go out there.

  • @billyrayvalentine7972
    @billyrayvalentine7972 2 роки тому +25

    It happens all the time. They make a small area surrounded by concrete . Most autocross tracks have larger areas where they cone off a course.

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      Unfortunately they were limited to that lot because the autocross was only part of the major Goodguys Del Mar Nationals Rod & Customs show. It was a massive (very cool) car and truck show.
      Jan

    • @ago7212
      @ago7212 10 місяців тому

      @@pomonatown7365 - May not have made a difference. Truck's rely on the front brakes more than cars and they locked either as a result of braking too late, gravel on the surface or both, as everyone was sliding at the finish. If the course is designed with a finish heading towards a concrete K-wall, without options if your brakes fail, better to brake early as there are no heroes in Auto-X;-)

  • @daviddavis744
    @daviddavis744 2 роки тому +32

    Always sad to see someone's hard work and money get destroyed. Thankfully there were no injuries and hopfully there's enough good parts left to build a new truck.

    • @patmartin2730
      @patmartin2730 2 роки тому

      Play hard it happens

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому +3

      Thanks for your comment, David.
      These sorts of accidents where an automobile occupants' head is violently thrust forward and back, especially while wearing a heavy helmet, can cause lasting physical injuries.
      I've had a couple situations in my life when my head was snapped forward and back in automobiles: once is an accident, where my Datsun 280Z 2+2 was rear-ended and I was shoved through an intersection; and once when I took a Press ride in the passenger seat of a professional off-road truck at a former off-road motorsports park named "The Quarry" in San Diego County. The first time I think I got whiplash. The second time, I felt like my neck was literally going to break, over the course of the 'routine' run through the course. To this day I still have range of motion issues with my neck.
      I have never worn a HANS Device but perhaps they should be just as mandatory as a helmet in all forms of motorsports - even amateur.
      Jan

    • @patmartin2730
      @patmartin2730 2 роки тому +2

      @@AutoMatters take the risk accept the consequences

    • @MoBiLoViNc3
      @MoBiLoViNc3 2 роки тому

      @@patmartin2730 if you cross the street and get hit by a car appect the consequences

  • @ptremulis
    @ptremulis 2 роки тому +4

    Bad track design. Shame on the organizers.

    • @scoutswimmer14
      @scoutswimmer14 2 роки тому

      Yeah….shame on them for one guys throttle braking and the other not knowing how to pump a brake and steer….😂

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      In the many years that I autocrossed regularly, I saw a fair number of cars that crashed hard when there was plenty of runoff area. Accidents can happen anywhere. Preferably, though, there would be lots of runoff area.
      Jan

  • @rustedratchetgarage6788
    @rustedratchetgarage6788 2 роки тому +5

    Between this and the Barracuda I say somebody f*****-up the design of the course

    • @scoutswimmer14
      @scoutswimmer14 2 роки тому +1

      Except the Cuda had a mechanical failure that accelerated him into the wall. Hard to design a course for a car that accelerated full throttle through the stopping zone.

  • @skiphardstuff7444
    @skiphardstuff7444 2 роки тому +6

    No rear brakes. One would think about that BEFORE/prior to "race A dang truck" in a close turn course.. LMAO 🤣😂🤣😂

    • @derriklee287
      @derriklee287 2 роки тому

      Chevy guys don't think to often

    • @125AXer
      @125AXer 2 роки тому +2

      Why would you think that the truck had no rear brakes? The motor was rocking hard, typically rear brakes can't stop against that.

    • @TenTenFarms
      @TenTenFarms 2 роки тому +1

      I would think brake bias being you don't want all your stopping power to lock up the rear. You can't tap the brakes and weight transfer it when your break bias is set up right.

  • @rustedratchetgarage6788
    @rustedratchetgarage6788 2 роки тому +5

    Everybody should know do not use vacuum boosted breaks during a autocross event hydroboost is a must you're on the break so much and on the gas so much you're not making vacuum when you go to hit the brakes at the end you had no vacuum assist

    • @carlschroeder6811
      @carlschroeder6811 2 роки тому +1

      Never thought of that...very good point!

    • @125AXer
      @125AXer 2 роки тому

      Literally tens of thousands of cars have competed in autocross with stock vacuum boost systems. That was not the issue here.

    • @rustedratchetgarage6788
      @rustedratchetgarage6788 2 роки тому

      @@125AXer bro look at autocross race prepped cars they all run hydro boost Terminator and Mach One cobras didn't run hydroboost for clearance issues they ran them because they were better than a vacuum boost

  • @salty6pence672
    @salty6pence672 2 роки тому +3

    Let off the brake, Turn the wheel. That's an expensive rookie move.

  • @georgesviderski2469
    @georgesviderski2469 2 роки тому +2

    Maverick and mustang was fun to lock at what a brute. and vette were the best to watch. pretty sure the corvette races real courses. He's not gonna take the wing off for a 40 second stroll at this thing.

  • @Gmullin12
    @Gmullin12 2 роки тому +8

    That was on the organizers.. they dident leave enough room for slowing down

    • @scoutswimmer14
      @scoutswimmer14 2 роки тому +1

      Countless other cars ran faster and stopped. Maybe he shouldn’t show up in the truck class weighing way under what he’s supposed to.

    • @johnmcmullen456
      @johnmcmullen456 2 роки тому +6

      Doesn't matter what you show up in or your experience level, that is a horrible course design to have such a finish area. There should have been offset pylons or a tight slalom just prior to the finish to force drivers to slow down, and then have the finish headed away from barriers instead of leading right into them if overcook your finish. Crashes are very rare in autocross yet they had 2 serious ones at the same event, both avoidable with a properly designed finish.

    • @scoutswimmer14
      @scoutswimmer14 2 роки тому

      It absolutely does matter what you bring. When you have hundreds of horses in a truck that’s 1000lbs underweight your attempt to cheat will make you too light and unable to stop. Likewise, countless other cars stopped.

    • @scoutswimmer14
      @scoutswimmer14 2 роки тому

      @@johnmcmullen456 the other crash. Listen to the end, he smashes the gas instead of the brake. No amount of preparation by event staff can mitigate driver error of that level.
      ua-cam.com/video/D1LnSvEVVN0/v-deo.html

    • @johnmcmullen456
      @johnmcmullen456 2 роки тому +5

      @@scoutswimmer14 I have been in this game a few decades and have helped design courses for SCCA events as a safety steward. You never design a fast finish leading straight into a barrier. Near the finish you add offset gates or a tight slalom to force drivers to slow down, then have the finish as a turn, away from any barriers. Accidents are very rare in autocross events but may result in the loss of the site or cancelled event insurance, especially if injury is involved.Two major accidents at one event may not bode well with this site owner's legal consultants. Oh, BTW, lighter vehicles brake better than heavier ones, all else being equal.

  • @donshotrodgarage1717
    @donshotrodgarage1717 2 роки тому +3

    Wow that was like the front tires was on ice. It actually went faster when the tires locked up. Thats a bummer!

  • @robertgriesmeyer5698
    @robertgriesmeyer5698 2 роки тому +2

    I hate autocross. It's so hard to ever remember or see where the turns are that you need to memorize like 35 turns. It's slow and you get at most a total of 4 minutes in the car for the whole day. At least it's cheap.

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому +1

      I always found autocross quite exciting from behind the wheel.
      Jan

  • @Amarillobymorning777
    @Amarillobymorning777 2 роки тому +2

    Brake faded .
    I experienced it at the Sierra madre en Mexico going down hill .
    pretty dangerous

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому +1

      Mario,
      That would be really scary. How did you get slowed down?
      Jan

    • @Amarillobymorning777
      @Amarillobymorning777 2 роки тому

      @@AutoMatters try to
      Stopped at the small village and let them cool down.
      My car was a Pontiac fire bird standard transmission.
      DOWN SHIFTING HELP ME A LOT .

  • @Nigel2Zoom
    @Nigel2Zoom 2 роки тому +5

    That is a heart breaker.

  • @patg6557
    @patg6557 2 роки тому +3

    Is that the top layer of the glass hood that flys off on impact? Could have killed someone if things weren't there to stop it . Sucks but at least they were ok

  • @CFloPhotography
    @CFloPhotography 5 місяців тому +1

    Everyone online thinks they're a Professional race couch driver; not a single person asked if the driver was okay or if there is a repair story to the truck
    That being said most commentators are right about the wall being within feet of the track cones even for 2024. This year, the track location was a different spot. The spot you see in the video get's submerged when it rains, like this year, and has a lot of cracked asphalt/caked mud, etc. The del mar fair parking lot is below sea level and the water has no where to go.

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  5 місяців тому

      Good news. The driver was/is okay and competed in the same (repaired) truck at last weekend's GoodGuys "AutoCross" at the Del Mar Nationals. I took some photos there and will post them soon in my "AutoMatters & More" column on AutoMatters.net.
      I do not shoot videos very often (I mostly shoot still photos, instead), so I do not upload very much to my "AutoMatters & More" UA-cam channel, but I do plan to edit and then post another video here soon. I happened to be recording one of the few videos I shot yesterday when something totally totally wild and unexpected happened during a two-car Formula Drift demonstration run at yesterday's Press Day for the upcoming Acura Grand Prix of Long Beach (IndyCar, Formula Drift, sportscar racing and more).
      Jan

  • @125AXer
    @125AXer 2 роки тому +9

    Understanding that a locked/sliding front wheel won't allow for any directional changes is key to a grasp of vehicle dynamics. The natural reaction to a bad situation is to stomp harder on the brake pedal. Unfortunately in this instance, that had no effect. Quite possibly, the right foot had covered gas and brake, or the driver hit the brake with the left foot instead of the clutch, and the right one hit the accelerator. Tough to see a crash like this. Some of the sites used are just too small to allow for any margin of error.

    • @straybullitt
      @straybullitt 2 роки тому +2

      Same here. I think that he drove the course with one foot on the brake and one on the gas, and forgot to move them over to press the clutch and brake at the finish.
      This is why heel-to-toe braking is the preferred technique. It keeps your left foot free to quickly operate the clutch, and is less confusing once mastered, rather than the two-footed technique.

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому +2

      When I used to run this course/event in my pretty-much stock 2001 Mustang GT on Goodguys' "All American Sunday" in prior years, I always had a healthy respect for the dangers posed by those concrete walls nearby. Over the years there have been several serious encounters with them, including a very bad crash involving a classic 60s Barracuda the day before (which resulted in a mangled, twisted write-off)? My Mustang had pretty bad handling (a horrible combination of terminal understeer and power-induced snap oversteer), so I was always particularly aware of the potential for crash damage to my street car.
      Jan

  • @wordreet
    @wordreet 2 роки тому +1

    ? Front wheels locked up and rears seemed to be un-braked?

  • @patmayer7222
    @patmayer7222 2 роки тому +1

    ,,,wow(blue chev),,,,good came off!too easy,,,,yikes........clip on???sheered off???...not on real hinges??...ooops.😯

  • @drmrjon
    @drmrjon 2 роки тому +1

    Why on earth did the corvette have a wing ?????????????????

  • @2007MXV
    @2007MXV 2 роки тому +1

    That's two-feet in on the wrong two pedals. Shitty to see, but sadly similar skills.

  • @davebruton5731
    @davebruton5731 2 роки тому +1

    Leave it in first and just go ! Let off the gas , if you need to slow down .

  • @enjoythesho1992
    @enjoythesho1992 2 роки тому +1

    One place I know to never bring my car this place is awful

  • @jimpuglisi7973
    @jimpuglisi7973 2 роки тому +2

    Good thing it was just a Chevy no loss

  • @hippynurd
    @hippynurd 2 роки тому +2

    Ive never seen a maverick kick ass so hard before

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому +1

      Mavericks were never like that from Ford!
      Jan

    • @hippynurd
      @hippynurd 2 роки тому

      @@AutoMatters I dont think that any of those cars were stock, but ive also never seen a maverick that I would want to drive, till today...

  • @bubba88188
    @bubba88188 2 роки тому +1

    I'm guessing his daily driver has ABS.

  • @offroader4fun
    @offroader4fun 2 роки тому +1

    Dude! There's better ways to meet girls!

  • @ago7212
    @ago7212 10 місяців тому +1

    Good thing the K-walls were there! If not, there would have been considerably more damage as a result. Hope the driver and passenger have since recovered!:-)

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  10 місяців тому

      I think that I saw the rebuilt truck at the same event this past year.

  • @zydecbro
    @zydecbro 2 роки тому +2

    I dunno about slow down to go fast, C10 driving was top notch and it had nothing to do with speed
    it had everything to do with no rear brakes

    • @125AXer
      @125AXer 2 роки тому +1

      Why would you think that the truck had no rear brakes? The motor was rocking hard, typically rear brakes can't stop against that.

    • @zydecbro
      @zydecbro 2 роки тому +1

      @@125AXer well I didn't claim to be an expert so it's possible that I'm wrong here but nothing on that truck is factory including the brakes which are probably oversized wilwoods so when you watch him locking up the brakes the rears are spinning he whole time

    • @125AXer
      @125AXer 2 роки тому +2

      @@zydecbro The currently popular burnout is accomplished in most cars by holding the brakes hard while standing still, and smashing the throttle. Brakes are balanced towards the front, a lot. During braking, 70-80% of the stopping power is accomplished by the fronts, due to weight transfer. Really strong rear brakes lock up early, and cause control issues, so they never have enough effectiveness to overcome a strong engine. This truck was still under power. Either driver error, or stuck throttle. Edit: See here for an example... ua-cam.com/video/oYod1Z0kPY8/v-deo.html

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому +1

      @@125AXer Thanks for the explanation.
      Jan

  • @cedricsmith6931
    @cedricsmith6931 2 роки тому +1

    Beautiful truck bad break sorry boys hope it can be fixed

  • @jeffduggan6427
    @jeffduggan6427 2 роки тому +1

    Gee hope the people the C10 are ok, hate ti see classics get damaged, looks like a lot of fun.

  • @jeancharlesrabaux5658
    @jeancharlesrabaux5658 2 роки тому +1

    Ha une fois qu on la prepare autrement que d origine c est des 🚀

  • @bkstrilla165
    @bkstrilla165 2 роки тому +2

    I hope the drive is OK but that’s why it’s very important to upgrade your brakes as the first thing you do

    • @CORNDODGER
      @CORNDODGER 2 роки тому

      IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BRAKES SKIPPY the fucking throttle hung WOT no brakes are going to stop it!!!

  • @yournamehere6365
    @yournamehere6365 2 роки тому +1

    Not a square body anymore!

  • @seanmcdaniel7041
    @seanmcdaniel7041 2 роки тому +1

    That's a bummer but it didn't look like there were any rear brakes.

  • @andresaguilar2475
    @andresaguilar2475 2 роки тому +2

    That maverick was wild!!!

  • @northerngirl13
    @northerngirl13 2 роки тому +2

    Love the snarling Maverick

  • @traitorhatergetarope3163
    @traitorhatergetarope3163 2 роки тому +2

    same corner that claimed the 69 cuda also.. think maybe they should re configure the corner

    • @carlschroeder6811
      @carlschroeder6811 2 роки тому +1

      66 Barracuda.

    • @scoutswimmer14
      @scoutswimmer14 2 роки тому +1

      The Cudas throttle broke and he accelerated through. Nothing to do with the course

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      One year I saw a car drive into the barrier on the diagonally opposite side of the course, and the end of the initial chicane.
      Jan

  • @Motor-Mouth-313
    @Motor-Mouth-313 2 роки тому +1

    Looks like that trucks throttle stuck. Fronts locked up but rears we're still pushing... Maybe brakes had a proportioning valve malfunction at the same time ? Idk odd...

  • @francisjaniewski5990
    @francisjaniewski5990 2 роки тому +1

    Damn dude bad luck! Hope you get another project to be gentle with. Looks like about $50k worth of observation Chevy

  • @davidcisneros1429
    @davidcisneros1429 2 роки тому +1

    I hate seeing a truck get wrecked like that.
    It was a beauty.

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      There is very little room for errors there.
      Jan

  • @miguelmaldonado9881
    @miguelmaldonado9881 2 роки тому +1

    RIP

  • @stevennagley3407
    @stevennagley3407 2 роки тому +1

    That was a purrrrty trans am!

  • @da_chief1492
    @da_chief1492 2 роки тому +1

    Remember folks horse power is how fast you hit the stop box barricade, torque is how much longer you extend the stop box

  • @sto1asgoetia600
    @sto1asgoetia600 2 роки тому +1

    It sounded like the throttle got stuck when he tried to slam on the brakes

  • @99thDimension
    @99thDimension 2 роки тому

    Vette with a way to big spoiler looks bad dude...like really bad not like bad good but bad bad.

  • @happygilmore8768
    @happygilmore8768 2 роки тому +1

    The guy in the Vette had the huge advantage overall and not just because its a Corvette...If anyone notices he's running weighted rear rims...Those keep the power planted and rear settled for smoother transitions than his competitors and the Guy with the Blue chevy...He shouldn't of two footed that truck..You can hear there was torque still being applied to the rearwheels pushing that Chevy right into the K rails like he hit an ice patch..

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      Interesting...

    • @thomassmith2239
      @thomassmith2239 2 роки тому

      I have no idea what "weighted rear rims" are but I do know that the driver of the yellow Corvette has been autocrossing for at least 25 years. Everytime I watch these Goodguys autocross videos I cringe seeing how close they run to the walls. That stop box at the finish! My opinion is this gives autocross a bad name. This would never be allowed at an SCCA event.

  • @johnboy007
    @johnboy007 2 роки тому +1

    That Ford Maverick did a nice job

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому +1

      John,
      I agree. The handling of that Maverick is especially amazing considering that the underlying car is about 50 years old!
      Jan

  • @oscarwalton1188
    @oscarwalton1188 2 роки тому +1

    If you find your self in that situation turn the wheel in the direction you want to go and let off the brakes and down shift
    it looked like he only had front brakes if that was the case he shouldn't have been out there

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      Hi Oscar,
      Downshifting could be tricky. If revs are not matched, it could be like applying the handbrake. That, combined with turning the steering wheel, could cause a spin.
      Jan

    • @oscarwalton1188
      @oscarwalton1188 2 роки тому +1

      it would have been better to spin it out than slam head first into the wall once he locked up the wheels he was pretty much just along for the ride

    • @AutoMatters
      @AutoMatters  2 роки тому

      @@oscarwalton1188 Like the Mustang did earlier.
      Jan

    • @oscarwalton1188
      @oscarwalton1188 2 роки тому +1

      @@AutoMatters yes