The s22 is actually really easy to overpower. I trail ride with mine. I have had many cutouts in a variety of situations. My honest take is that these devices are just not there yet, a few more years, and they will be solid. But for now, we must ride with safety margine in mind to be easy on acceleration, especially when we are going at speed. My most common cutout is acceleration or trying to gain torque when initially climbing a hill, and sometimes when landing jumps as well. In addition the beeps are useless in no time have I ever cutout a wheel have they been effective, im typically already into the forth roll rotation on the ground as im hearing them.
@JustFacts85042 could be the 40t you have. I was one of the first to get a production model. Has the Samsung 50 batteries I'm sure and they do suffer from voltage sag.
igual a mi las 2000kilometros subiendo me corto. en un paseo llego el motor a 91 gradoos creo que fue por eso , estoy esperando la pro . aaa me parti la clavicula jajaja pero sigo montando en l a 16X esa si es mi caballito de mil batallaas
Unicycle is always centered forward to speed like that, and the power is turned off. If that happens.. 1. Falling => Hit the ground from your knees. (The most important first) 2. My palms sweep as I touch the ground with my palms. 3. Next, watch your face and chin. 4. Breaks the ribs and sides of the chest. 5. Foot => Be careful of the top of your feet and ankles. (Thick socks should be worn)
I had S18, was thinking about to get S22 since it was out for so long, but after second though, I finally bought my first Begode Master with 40T battery, so far it is so fun to ride, so much power and torque, my S18 send me to kiss the ground once, that is why I am so worry that will happen in S22, anyway enough of my own story, have fun and have a safe ride out there bro.
@JustFacts thanks for the info, I think most likely my cutoff on S18 is I am still new to EUC back then, I should not push it so hard with out even knowing it's limit, but the S22 is going to be one of my EUC collection. 👍
Idk how this 3300W older version, but Pro model is awesome. I'm using it more for trails and offroads but sometimes for city ride too, and never experienced any cutouts, even beeps. But i'm not riding fast - avg around 40, max around 60 km/h, so plenty of headroom till factory limit (70) and freespin speed (around 110). Never heard beeps when lean in any speed 😊 But yeah, for accelerarion and high speed riding, i would go for begode. I think the S22 is more about torque and in lower speeds maaaan it feels like it have infinite amount of power 🚀. Yesterday on a really steep offroad hill cca 30° i lean like A LOT in speed around 10 km/h and in no time i was at almost 30 and app says that i had still 35% safety margin, LIKE WHAAAAT? 😂😂. Also, the weight of rider should be considered in riding style. Heavier ones should have smoother accelerations and brakings 😊. Anyway cheers and stay safe.
Was just curious. Did the wheel have time to even beep? And approx what was your rolling speed? Just curious if it cut out due to the controller holding the motor back, as it does. Or if it was just a normal overlean. I feel like this wheel SHOULD have the power to hold up under that kind of stress. But kingsong just messed up when making that moba...
Then Begode also messed up with the Ex30. I just saw a cut out video with the Ex30. The guy wasn't even going that fast. And he is much lighter than I am. The controller is fine on the S22. The EUC technology in general, cannot keep up on what we expect a wheel can do. Any wheel can cut out, if you accelerate to fast. I weight over 220 pounds and even Begode wheels will cut out under my weight. That's why I usually accelerate very gently on any wheel.
Nearly cut out my T4 on the first day of owning it. Pedals dipped at 35mph but I managed to ride it out. Had pwm beeps set to 90% so it didn't even beep until after it dipped
I’m not a rider but it looked like you leaned beyond the euc’s ability to go fast enough to keep you from falling over the front. I couldn’t hear any beeping warnings either.
Been riding s22 over a year and no cutouts. I don’t heavy lean to accelerate. More bend knees and lift heels. That may be difference. Even s18 only had a cutout once going uphill being “dumb” and pushing too hard.
Be careful out there. Just today I'm so lucky that my V13 gave my a weird fault error for a long power button press. On my way to work. Had to call an Uber. Rode in the rain the other day. And water got in the power display a bit. Good thing I have a Electronic Vac to blow out the water.
Got home tonight. And powered on the wheel. Its at 95%. Diagnostics check green, and I turned off the enter passcode off. I don't want my wheel to be locked up if I need to connect to the bluetooth immediately. Stay safe out here. Because cars won't
@@BunnyslippersEUCgive us the link, I am riding begode master for last year, I already did 6000 km. I am really heavy and accelerate a lot and also ride in the hilly terrain. I never was even close to cutout and didn't have to do anything with my wheel except charging. No issues with sliders.
To prevent that happening to you feel the wheel... before every cutout you feel how the sensors give the wheel free... also in the video you can see that... if you get up soon enough the wheel has a chance not to cutout... but if you keep on leaning the physics will get ya... ❤ride hard stay safe gruuuzzzz and nice weekend
@@BunnyslippersEUC u lie or it was low battery charge issue. Kingsong is 2 heads behind the begode's torque and power. 16X, S18, S22 are have often cutouts, every1 is know.
@Наступивший на сук the video is on UA-cam. Elunipsycho channel. Monster Pro batch One was a very bad wheel. Lots of people cutting out at walking speed.
honestly I think its good to tether less wheel damage, slows the wheel down over a longer 3 second ish duration. instead of bouncing fast hitting slamming about till it hits a stationary object or person or travels 30 plus feet both him and the object are in motion till they stop together. those "hits" are extremely soft
@@sakogu nah, been riding for thousands upon thousands of miles, many years of experience. i got gear/wheel setup (I have 4 wheels), lighting down to science. I will never tether myself to a projectile, especially since I ride on roads. Imagine, wheel slips out, catches a car and the car drags the wheel :(
Your bodyweight is way to high for the s22. Has nothing to do with the wheel. Either loose weight or get a much more stronger wheel tough. Why nobody talks about this relevant indue at all? The relation between bodyweight and wheel power. I have 90kg full gear weight and never had had a cutout on the s22. And I ride insane.
No bodyweight is good. I think cold battery and motor cuase the cut out. On a summer day I could really torque the S22. The S22 definitely lacks power compared to my Veteran Patton. Both have similar specifications, but Patton power is insane.
What I want is for you.... all of you to ask yourselves, is that the riders fault? Or the Machines fault? I am constantly seeing these videos of OVER Lean and implying it's the machines fault. I disagree!
Oh and by the way, granted there's always someone recording. But I have noticed that during group rides people ride in a way they don't normally. And thus, end up eating it while showing off on camera. It has one wheel people. Theres no way to recover from over lean. So don't do it. There's no reasonable scenario to do so. It's like being in a race car and coming into a turn to hot, understeer and end up in the wall. But at least they're racing! Or like the group drives where a bunch of idiots are acting the fool in their McLaren's or Lamborghini's and lose it during hard acceleration and hit a telephone pole or worse, another car or worse hit a bunch of people! STOOOOOPPP! STOP IT! It's your fault. Not the car not the EUC. You've gone beyond the limits of the machine. It's on you.
One can argue that the wheel should have a better controller for stronger output so's its much harder to overtorque/lean the wheel. But ultimately its up to the rider to understand & be sitware of their machines limits. IMO this particular episode is totally rider failure. If one wants to full send hard everywhere, get a different wheel ala ex30. Being an owner I would know as I full send it everywhere all day. Cant get it to beep nevermind whatever else
The s22 is actually really easy to overpower. I trail ride with mine. I have had many cutouts in a variety of situations. My honest take is that these devices are just not there yet, a few more years, and they will be solid. But for now, we must ride with safety margine in mind to be easy on acceleration, especially when we are going at speed. My most common cutout is acceleration or trying to gain torque when initially climbing a hill, and sometimes when landing jumps as well. In addition the beeps are useless in no time have I ever cutout a wheel have they been effective, im typically already into the forth roll rotation on the ground as im hearing them.
@JustFacts85042 could be the 40t you have. I was one of the first to get a production model. Has the Samsung 50 batteries I'm sure and they do suffer from voltage sag.
igual a mi las 2000kilometros subiendo me corto. en un paseo llego el motor a 91 gradoos creo que fue por eso , estoy esperando la pro . aaa me parti la clavicula jajaja pero sigo montando en l a 16X esa si es mi caballito de mil batallaas
but hey you have a smart BMS🤔 pff many reason push me toward the master i do bot regret my choice one bit😉
i do even more aggressive lean than that and i've never cutout on my sherman s
They definitely are there. Just not with KS
Good analysis - thanks for sharing, glad you're OK...
Glad you were okay and still had a good day riding
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Unicycle is always centered forward to speed like that, and the power is turned off.
If that happens..
1. Falling => Hit the ground from your knees. (The most important first)
2. My palms sweep as I touch the ground with my palms.
3. Next, watch your face and chin.
4. Breaks the ribs and sides of the chest.
5. Foot => Be careful of the top of your feet and ankles. (Thick socks should be worn)
wewwww that was crazy, good to see you are ok.
Glad you’re ok brother!!
Good handling of situation. Neat view of your area.
I had S18, was thinking about to get S22 since it was out for so long, but after second though, I finally bought my first Begode Master with 40T battery, so far it is so fun to ride, so much power and torque, my S18 send me to kiss the ground once, that is why I am so worry that will happen in S22, anyway enough of my own story, have fun and have a safe ride out there bro.
@JustFacts thanks for the info, I think most likely my cutoff on S18 is I am still new to EUC back then, I should not push it so hard with out even knowing it's limit, but the S22 is going to be one of my EUC collection. 👍
User errors like this video will make you eat it.
This video is clearly user error,not a wheel issue
What, the s18 cut too ? 😮
@@fiocco10 I have 38% battery left, it cut off the power when i take off at stop sign. I am about 220lbs with gears.
Happy your alright!
Gear did its job.
Leash did its job.
Without gear he likely wouldn't have been pushing the wheel that hard to begin with.
How fast were u going when it cut out??
Too much to eat for dinner. Your body did a nice job of protecting the S22.
Near perfect landing 👌
Idk how this 3300W older version, but Pro model is awesome. I'm using it more for trails and offroads but sometimes for city ride too, and never experienced any cutouts, even beeps. But i'm not riding fast - avg around 40, max around 60 km/h, so plenty of headroom till factory limit (70) and freespin speed (around 110). Never heard beeps when lean in any speed 😊 But yeah, for accelerarion and high speed riding, i would go for begode. I think the S22 is more about torque and in lower speeds maaaan it feels like it have infinite amount of power 🚀. Yesterday on a really steep offroad hill cca 30° i lean like A LOT in speed around 10 km/h and in no time i was at almost 30 and app says that i had still 35% safety margin, LIKE WHAAAAT? 😂😂. Also, the weight of rider should be considered in riding style. Heavier ones should have smoother accelerations and brakings 😊. Anyway cheers and stay safe.
Was just curious. Did the wheel have time to even beep? And approx what was your rolling speed? Just curious if it cut out due to the controller holding the motor back, as it does. Or if it was just a normal overlean. I feel like this wheel SHOULD have the power to hold up under that kind of stress. But kingsong just messed up when making that moba...
Then Begode also messed up with the Ex30. I just saw a cut out video with the Ex30. The guy wasn't even going that fast. And he is much lighter than I am. The controller is fine on the S22. The EUC technology in general, cannot keep up on what we expect a wheel can do.
Any wheel can cut out, if you accelerate to fast. I weight over 220 pounds and even Begode wheels will cut out under my weight. That's why I usually accelerate very gently on any wheel.
@@BunnyslippersEUCwell said
Good to see your okay Brother Bunny!
Nearly cut out my T4 on the first day of owning it. Pedals dipped at 35mph but I managed to ride it out. Had pwm beeps set to 90% so it didn't even beep until after it dipped
Never rode. You can set the warning to activate earlier for leanings?
@@yanassi yes, I have it set to 78% now with the tiltback firmware
No way will I ever try that machine to me like.
Crazy .
I’m not a rider but it looked like you leaned beyond the euc’s ability to go fast enough to keep you from falling over the front. I couldn’t hear any beeping warnings either.
Oh man i cut out on my S22 doing same thing. You also cut out on Abrams?
Bro same happened to me yesterday S22 Pro. I need that lanyard tho!!!
people be acting like this is the only wheel you can do this to 😂
I have a friend that also crashed on S22 and he said there was no beeps but he was going 60-70 kmh at the time..
S22 was beeping a lot.
i’ve had a customer over lean theirs too. They were on about 50% of the battery according to them and accelerated aggressively.
I was at 100% battery.
@@BunnyslippersEUC that’s sad to hear. Makes me trust my own even less.
@@AndreiPetunin Even the Ex30 cuts out at low speed. It's on UA-cam
Oh no. Hope you're ok. Not a good wheel for torquing IMO
felt like a pro, took it like a champ. glad ure ok, did you remember @what speed this happened ?
user problem
Keep in mind the heavier you are the much easier it is to overpower on an acceleration. glad ur good tho
Been riding s22 over a year and no cutouts. I don’t heavy lean to accelerate. More bend knees and lift heels. That may be difference. Even s18 only had a cutout once going uphill being “dumb” and pushing too hard.
I also do that, but I leaned a bit to much forward. The pounds also don't help. But still, the S22 isn't very strong considering the specifications.
Be careful out there. Just today I'm so lucky that my V13 gave my a weird fault error for a long power button press. On my way to work. Had to call an Uber. Rode in the rain the other day. And water got in the power display a bit. Good thing I have a Electronic Vac to blow out the water.
Got home tonight. And powered on the wheel. Its at 95%. Diagnostics check green, and I turned off the enter passcode off. I don't want my wheel to be locked up if I need to connect to the bluetooth immediately.
Stay safe out here. Because cars won't
@@n_ux did you watch U-Stride video? He also has problems with the V13. Sometimes too much safety software features is too much.
Nothing really hits you with adrenaline like a good cut-off. Kinda whiled that abrams has more torque, lower volt larger diameter wheel.
Is that s22 with the 40 t battery or the regular samsung?
isnt stock battery cells is LG M50LT?
Ohlala Michael
User error, not wheel issue
Was the firmware updated? mine also cut out before updating
Yes
were you driving in hard mode?
Always
I ride the s22 in medium, you should try it. Far better imo
@@dirt.surfer grracias lo vooy hacer
What if there was a car behind you!!
If you want power, you need to get begode wheel. Kinsong is not there yet.
I saw a video of the EX30 cutting out at low speed.
@@BunnyslippersEUCgive us the link, I am riding begode master for last year, I already did 6000 km. I am really heavy and accelerate a lot and also ride in the hilly terrain. I never was even close to cutout and didn't have to do anything with my wheel except charging. No issues with sliders.
@@DamianLesiuk on elunipsycho channel
Hmm... It's my biggest fear, which wheel with suspension does not cut ?
That wheel ...doesn't exist. I have seen a video of the EX30 cutting out and the V13 cutting out.
Is this the pro?
No
😰
To prevent that happening to you feel the wheel... before every cutout you feel how the sensors give the wheel free... also in the video you can see that... if you get up soon enough the wheel has a chance not to cutout... but if you keep on leaning the physics will get ya... ❤ride hard stay safe gruuuzzzz and nice weekend
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Kingsong is the king of cutouts
I saw a video of the EX30 cutting out at low speed. A wheel with the most torque. Begode makes cut out wheels now?
@@BunnyslippersEUC u lie or it was low battery charge issue. Kingsong is 2 heads behind the begode's torque and power. 16X, S18, S22 are have often cutouts, every1 is know.
@Наступивший на сук the video is on UA-cam. Elunipsycho channel. Monster Pro batch One was a very bad wheel. Lots of people cutting out at walking speed.
@@TheMarkAvreliy There's an EX30 here in Canada that cutout without beeps.
@@BunnyslippersEUC All the EX30 cutouts are overleaned and could happened at any speed. This is a limitation of all EUC.
😳 yikes
It's all in the EUC game.
Короче, ехали нормально, пока один не решил вые....нуться! Ну и результат! Колесо быстро ставит Таких на место!
Stupid idea to anchor oneself to a projectile. I refuse to do that on my wheels
@@imustbust998 ...but it continued hitting you instead..otherwise it could have gone into the grass...
honestly I think its good to tether less wheel damage, slows the wheel down over a longer 3 second ish duration.
instead of bouncing fast hitting slamming about till it hits a stationary object or person or travels 30 plus feet
both him and the object are in motion till they stop together. those "hits" are extremely soft
@@sakogu nah, been riding for thousands upon thousands of miles, many years of experience. i got gear/wheel setup (I have 4 wheels), lighting down to science. I will never tether myself to a projectile, especially since I ride on roads. Imagine, wheel slips out, catches a car and the car drags the wheel :(
Your bodyweight is way to high for the s22. Has nothing to do with the wheel. Either loose weight or get a much more stronger wheel tough. Why nobody talks about this relevant indue at all? The relation between bodyweight and wheel power. I have 90kg full gear weight and never had had a cutout on the s22. And I ride insane.
No bodyweight is good. I think cold battery and motor cuase the cut out. On a summer day I could really torque the S22. The S22 definitely lacks power compared to my Veteran Patton. Both have similar specifications, but Patton power is insane.
What I want is for you.... all of you to ask yourselves, is that the riders fault? Or the Machines fault? I am constantly seeing these videos of OVER Lean and implying it's the machines fault. I disagree!
Oh and by the way, granted there's always someone recording. But I have noticed that during group rides people ride in a way they don't normally. And thus, end up eating it while showing off on camera. It has one wheel people. Theres no way to recover from over lean. So don't do it. There's no reasonable scenario to do so. It's like being in a race car and coming into a turn to hot, understeer and end up in the wall. But at least they're racing! Or like the group drives where a bunch of idiots are acting the fool in their McLaren's or Lamborghini's and lose it during hard acceleration and hit a telephone pole or worse, another car or worse hit a bunch of people! STOOOOOPPP! STOP IT! It's your fault. Not the car not the EUC. You've gone beyond the limits of the machine. It's on you.
One can argue that the wheel should have a better controller for stronger output so's its much harder to overtorque/lean the wheel. But ultimately its up to the rider to understand & be sitware of their machines limits. IMO this particular episode is totally rider failure. If one wants to full send hard everywhere, get a different wheel ala ex30. Being an owner I would know as I full send it everywhere all day. Cant get it to beep nevermind whatever else
@@scottsum1319 Yeah a low speed EX30 cut out video, was released not long ago.
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