I am sure a lot of people are thinking, that is a lot of effort. Can I just use an air intake spray and be done with this. Here is the result using a spray vs. toothbrush: ua-cam.com/video/koSxf67CtHI/v-deo.html Also, for cleaning the EGR valve, use any carb cleaner or even better, dishwashing liquid and water. See here: ua-cam.com/video/koSxf67CtHI/v-deo.html
Thanks for the description very informative. What I found when doing this was that the parts had become magnetised making assembly difficult with the spring being magnetised it was jumping out of position .I eventually assembled and fount the rotor sticking/jerking and not returning to position. i left this overnight intending to de-magnetise the next day. came back the next day without doing anything the rotor was turning freely as it should. What happened overnight ... I don't know?
Hi MM, have you considered blanking the egr valve on this engine ? I did this to my C-max, 2005, 2.0L TDI and produced a big improvement in mpg and performance. I'd like to do it to my 2017, 1.5L HDI blue in my Peugeot 2008. Also at what mileage would you expect the egr to give problems ? Your opinion would be much valued, thanks.
@@nigelmitchell351 Good question nigel. I have considered it, but unlikely I will do it. Several reasons for that. Diesels get vilified a lot and blanking these does not help us using our diesels. There will be quite a bit more pollution once the EGR is blanked, mainly Nox. So, it will be polluting more. Separate from that is the operating temperature of the engine, the EGR reduces that, so a blanked EGR will increase a bit your cylinder temperature. There are multitude of positives to using the EGR, from pumping losses to making the cylinders/volume smaller when not needed, e.g. driving on a motorway, so that all in all reduces consumption. Good video that describes all of these is here: ua-cam.com/video/FrpyLvPodkc/v-deo.html
This is, by far, the best video I've managed to find on how to locate and remove the EGR-valve! Thank you so much and especially for taking your time, making sure to show how all the plugs are connected/disconnected and all the attachmentpoints for both the valve and all the plastic hosing.
I’m going to add what a few people have said on the comments. That I am so impressed with the talk through and video of this. By far the best explanation and video step by step guide I’ve seen. Thank you so much. I’ve now subscribed and going to be watching a lot more of your videos. Cheers.
Many thanks indeed for the good words, really appreciated! I generally try to do videos that I would want to watch and see how it is done and be able to do it myself from watching the video, rather than something quick and some important bits missing. I do not always suceed though.
Very good video with an EXCELLENT level of DEEP DETAIL! (I have a Citroen Berlingo 2007 1.6 HDi 75kw/55kw First Enterprise diesel van - so everything is identical to what you have shown here). I think I may need to do this on my own vehicle: I really like your style of 'How-to' (do any given task on whatever vehicle you happen to be dealing with). This is the best example of this I have ever seen on UA-cam. I just checked how much a NEW EGR Valve would cost for my vehicle (matched to my Registration number) from Euro Car Parts. (£170.00 for the Starline version - and £112.00 for the Wahler version - of this particular EGR Valve). Horrendously EXPENSIVE (for what it actually is), so it makes perfect sense to go to the small amount of time and effort to take off and clean the existing one, as you have done in this video. I have had to carry out multiple tasks on this vehicle over time, in the 6 years I have owned it, with only one of those HAYNES manuals to guide me, but these HAYNES MANUALS are ABSOLUTE SHIT. Really low quality garbage and a total waste of good money! (The photographs in these manuals are TERRIBLE, poorly focused black and white 'bog-standard' quality, and the instructions and explanations are very sketchy and limited, with a lot of important details left out, that you have to discover and work out for yourself when you come to doing the particular task on whatever vehicle it is covering at the time - in most cases. Anyway, with all of that said, the point is, after watching this video of yours, I will now be able to CONFIDENTLY DUPLICATE everything you've just shown, AND be able to fully understand what to do, how to do it, and WHY I need to do it, (when it comes to overhauling and cleaning my own EGR Valve on my Citroen Berlingo van)! What I love about this vehicle is that it is very easy and nice to drive, and very reliable, and it is delightfully economical on fuel - so I use it for all of my day-to-day, and longer-distance commuting from A to B, for both my personal and work-related use, and it gives me great service and value.
Many thanks indeed for the thorough and very nice comment, I rather appreciate it. I try to do a videos such that I would watch and get what I neeed to do the repair myself. Often I watch something and then quite a few things are missing and then I need to research everything myself. Sometimes, there is not a video at all. Of course, not always possible. Many thanks again, appreciated.
Thanks for a very useful video. A removed and cleaned the EGR on a C4 picasso where the acessibility is very poor. Three hands would be needed for re-assembly and there is space for one and a half ... My problem was to avoid dropping the thin plate between engine and the EGR. My ultimate solution was two small drops of super glue close to the bolts loosely fixing the plate to the EGR. When the glue had dried it was easy to connect the EGR to the intercooler and then attaching bolts. No risk of dropping the plate! I guess that the small amount of glue won't interfere with the intended fit. Seems to work!
Very thorough video.Thank you for taking the time and effort to explain, in detail, how go about removing,stripping,cleaning and reinstalling the egr valve.Much appreciated!
HUGE THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO! I disassembled, cleaned and reassembled the EGR valve of my 2007 Peugeot 307 SW, all in less than 3 hours! THANK YOU!!! IMMENSAMENTE GRAZIE PER QUESTO VIDEO! Grazie a questo ho smontato, ripulito e rimontato la valvola EGR della mia Peugeot 307 SW del 2007, il tutto in meno di 3 ore! GRAZIE!!!
As per many of the other comments - thank you for going into detail, especially all of the various plugs and clips. When you can't see how they undo it is easy to break things ( for me anyway).
Many thanks indeed for the nice comment, I certainly appreciate it. I do the videos, or at least try to do them in a way that one can see all the details even if I have not done that before. I hate when some details are not given and I have no idea how to do something. Then I spend 3 days looking at other videos for that particular detail. Unfortunately not always possible to cover everything even with best of intentions. All the best
Thank you very much indeed oooyugi, really appreciated! It makes my day when I receive a comment like this. Generally very few garages will clean the EGR valve, they always push for a new valve.
@@moremolecules Hey Friend you made my day with this brilliant How-To film. Curious -Can I use some thin ( 1 or 2mm ) Tin Plate out of my garage for a Home Made Blanking Plate ? Or does it need to be Stainless Steel ? Also should there be a hole in said plate for the EML to go off ? Thanks 🙏
@@oooyugi You can use anything. I would just get a blanking plate from a coke can or a beer can. It does not need to be stainless steel. It is a good question about the hole. I do not know the answer to that. Depending on the model you might not get EML from the blanking plate. For other car makes they have been successful with one or several holes to avoid EML. I guess you could try and see if that is the case with your model.
@@moremolecules Hi. Also. Does the EGR Valve still have to work, even with a Blanking Plate fitted. Otherwise the van will remain on Limp Mode ? I suppose I’m asking can the faulty EGR be unplugged (or fault deleted on computer diagnostics ) and considered void with Plate in situ. As EGR isn’t being used no more so I will be basically buying a new EGR just to continue a correct electrical circuit. I hope I’m making sense.
@@oooyugi As far as I know, it will not work if you just unplug it. The computer knows that it is unplugged and will give you EML. The trick is to have it plugged, but blocked. If the EGR is faulty, the computer might still recognise this and give you EML.
Man, thank you A LOT I opened the electrical part (thinking it would separate the black piece from the grey piece) and the spring jumped off. I wasn't able to figure it out how it go back. I searched a few hours on internet and finally came to your video Thank you a lot, you just saved me a whole new EGR valve so around 250€ for an OEM !
@@moremolecules not yet, I will continue tomorrow. I just saw your coolant change, very good tips, especially your DIY header bleeder, I don't think I need that on my C4 because the collant tank is way higher than on your partner But because its and LHD, the second bleeder is much harder to reache (kinda hidden by the air filter box) Anyway, you got a very well deserved subscriber ! A massive thanks to you from France !
@@vlone59 AFAIK, there are two versions of the upper electronic EGR part in these engines. I have two videos that cover the different versions. It is only a slight difference. Good luck :-)
@@moremolecules I tried today but the valve won't return (unlike yours) I tried to let it soak in WD40 and it improved a lot, I had return (almost to the end of the position) but when I put it back and tried to calibrate it with diagbox, I get a failed calibration and if I try to check the values reported for the EGR valve, the result is "incorrect value" I think I'm good for a trip to the scrapyard to get an used one. Since I am planning to block it with an Knox plate, it doesn't matter brand new or used. I just want a working one since the MOT in France check for default codes via OBD and can refuse a car if some defaults are present (even if the engine light is off !) I also saw 2 types of EGR valve but as I remember it not on the 1.6 HDi The 1.4 HDi as a different one and the 2.0L HDi also an other one
@@vlone59 Do you mean the upper spring thing does not move freely back or the actual valve inside the bottom part? If is the upper, the spring is not positioned correctly. If it is the bottom, yes soak it in something, also wash it with washing up liquid, etc. If the upper moves alright and the bottom moves alright, but when you put them back together you get the errors, it is the way you put them back together. The bottom you only need to check if the pin can move along nicely in the channel.
You sir, are amazing. I followed your instructions, which were really clear and precise. And I now have a fully working car with no faults. Thank you so so much. Even down to how you take apart the egr valve and re do the spring inside the electrical connection part of the egr. thank you so much 🙏
Just finished cleaning the same egr and it also wasn't that bad but also was getting stuck towards the end of the run much like your's. What i did was knocking out the fork by hammering it gently and opened it completely. I then turned it upside down and knocked it on a piece of wood and a lot of carbon came out. Even after this it still felt like it was hard to turn and it turned out to be the bearing on the inside. I cleaned this with carburetor cleaner and greased it. Job done. Thanks for posting your video.
Excellent video. My wife's Citroën C4 has much the same engine and we were quoted AUD2,500 to replace the valve, which the garage says has a faulty (intermittent), "sticking", EGR valve. Needless to say, we won't be bothering the garage again regarding the EGR valve.
Hi David, EGR valves are a bit expensive and it takes time to get to it and replace it, but AUD2,500 is way too much. 1/2 of that is kind of acceptable for a complete replacement.
Hi. Thanks for the tutorial. The attention to detail is amazing , explaining how the EGR functions was very helpful. Wishing you a prosperous New Year.
Excellent video, i can't thank you enough, i even changed my rail sensor while the egr was out, took it for a good run today, ran great, even got rid of the air pollution fault.
Many thanks indeed for the good words, much appreciated! Funnily enough, the first time I ever did my EGR valve, I also rounded one of the bolts, hence the part number in the description of the video. Thanks again.
BRO!! You just fixed my car!! Well not literally.. I didn't have a replacement clip..... so i was like F4!!! so i just take off the black motor housing... and it was full up to the brim with black powder.. i blow it out best i can.. and lube up the motor spinner... replace... drive down road.. same hesitation and BS....... i floor it.. lots of smoke.. then WOOOSHHHHHH back to normal!! MUCH LOVE HOMBRE!! Maybe pin this to help other people... i have searched for weeks and weeks to fix this problem
What a cracking video. Although i don't have a 1.6 but a 2015 Euro 5 Expert 2.0 hdi 130bhp with the same symptoms. The boost is there especially in 1st gear but quickly disappears. It takes around 20+ seconds to get to 60mph. It's had a brand new turbo and EGR fitter in the last 10k miles. Also throttle body and inlet manifold removed and cleaned. No fault codes on mine. Full service too. New MAF and MAP. Trouble is it's so tight in my engine bay. I can't access the solenoids at the back of the engine. Because the turbo works intermittently i don't think it's a pipe off but i could be losing boost The EGR seems to operate on startup too, so it's all got me a bit stumped. Thanks for the vid.
I completely sympathise with the amount of space. I would certainly look into the turbo solenoid. It could well be a bit stuck, so little boost provided. There was a video somewhere of cleaning it, but difficult to get to and the price of a new one is really cheap. Not too certain about the 2.0HDi and it is a newer model than mine, but there must be a relief valve somewhere between the injectors. That should be free of gunk.
Awesome! When you showed that special tool for the round clamp I was like "hmm can't we fit a ring clamp that uses a screw, and then you tell you did just that, nice!
Thank you for your information and your time . When I did mine I just pushed the fuel filter to one side and undid the frame that holds it . That way I didn't have to mess around with it .
Thank you for taking the time to make and share these helpful videos. Not sure I would have worked out the spring on the EGR acruator without your demonstration. For non Partner owners the air box has to be taken apart before it will clear the bulkhead, Just 3 screws with allen heads so not too bad.
I always do torque with a torque wrench, as I am a bit ham fisted and tend to snap bolts. I generally do not rely on my feel for the bolts, I always think they are not tight enough 🙂
Genuinely excellent guide. I did the same on a C4 Grand Picasso, A LOT less room but eventually sorted. The bracket between the EGR and recirculating pipe needs to be fully removed before you pull out the EGR, I managed to bend the pipe and pipe flanges a bit because I left the bracket on not wanting to lose it in the engine bay. Thank you! Brilliant. 😁👍
This video was a genuine lifesaver after the motor on the valve seized open causing it to go lean and cut out on the motorway. I do have one note however, if you're doing this job on a small car like a 207, it is required that you remove the diesel filter from the bracket and the bracket itself otherwise you literally cannot reach in with your hands to grab anything. You don't have to remove the filter but it would probably make it easier but I'm lazy. Also, the lower EGR bolt is an absolute pain to get to on the 207 as it is buried under wiring, fuel lines and a coolant line so make sure you have a decent extension and a extendable magnet on hand for when you inevitably drop something into the abyss
Thx for this detailed video. I did it today at an Citroen Xsara Picasso N68 1.6 HDI, it's a pain in the ass, there is so much less space compared to your car, but it is still possible to mange :)
Hi Dexter, yes, my engine bay was designed to accommodate the 2.0HDi, thus luckily for me there is plenty of space. It could still be done for other models, but is a bit of contortionist effort.
Great video very informative for sumeone who has not done this before(like me) I am going to put mine in my ultrasonic cleaner this weekend with some screwfix degreaser
@@moremolecules I did the operation on my recently acquired 2004 C3 XTR, with the DV4TED4 engine (the 1.4hdi 16 valver that the 1.6 replaced), it was similar enough, but I have a few remarks: - (on my model at least) you can get away with not undoing the fuel filter, just sliding it out of it's rails and shoving it away allows for removing the airbox with a bit of shuffling arround. So I saved having to worry about bubbles in my system/priming it with the pump. - you didn't cover cleaning the EGR tube that goes from the EGR valve to the intake. That tube was a massive pita to get out since I had ECU wiring in the way and didn't figure out how to unplug it. On mine, the EGR valve itself was the pneumatic version and was barely dirty, but the tube was absolutely filthy and I suspect was causing issues. I cleaned it up with a stick, soap, WD40 and the hose, then erased the error codes and the engine light went away, hopefully it stays that way. I'll make sure to regularly blast it clean on the autobahn :)
@@Hugobros3 Yes I did not, but it is on my todo list. The thing is that apart from the EGR pipe, one also probably needs to clean the air intake for the cylinders, as these will be also covered with soot. Because it is quite a bit of work removing all the wiring and injector pipes, I am waiting to get a second car and then do all the work. I do not think it matters if you give it a blast now and then, it will generate the soot anyway. The main problem is the oil that goes from the crankcase/turbo and creates a bit of hard mixture with the soot. Maybe the 1.4hdi is a bit better in that respect, but I doubt it.
This is by far the most thorough video i have watched, i only wanted to change a tyre but i learned how to change an egr valve aswell 😉... absolutely fantastic, keep it up buddy!! Karl from wales 👊
Just cleaned and blanked off the EGR on my 1.6DHI C5. Thanks for the info, very helpful for full strip down. Unfortunately my EGR is still defective, so will probably need a new one. Suspect the electric part is faulty. I cleaned the metal part in an ultrasonic cleaner and it came out very shiny! About the easiest way to clean it I reckon.
Yes, mostly the electronic part fails and rather difficult to repair. Ahh, yes ultrasonic cleaner will be the best, but unfortunately I have no access to one. What ultrasonic cleaner are you using?
@@moremolecules I just bought a cheap generic one off Amazon (it says Rovsun on it) to clean rifle silencers with. Would suggest you get one that is heated - it works a lot better. Also, no need to buy fancy liquids - just use water with a mild detergent (I just use washing up liquid). Mine is 2L so only just big enough for an EGR.
@@GdaySport Ahh, yes I found it and many thanks indeed for the name, much appreciated. I always wanted one, but have not had the chance to get one. Always useful to clean parts.
@@seanguild6528 Ha, thanks for the info, much appreciated. It makes sense I guess, same as the pugs/ford/volvo/suzuki/mazda with respect to the 1.6HDi/TDCi
Very very good mechanichs and exellent explanation. You are very good in teaching and showing how to work ina a engine. THANKYOU VRERY MUCH FOR THIS EXELLENT VIDEO. 100 %
What an excellent video! I have exactly the same model and your video will help me immensely when I tackle this job tomorrow..Thank you and I have subscribed as you seem to have lots of interesting stuff on your channel.
Looked up the torque setting for the things in this video for completion: Pipe collar tightening bolts, all 0.3 daNm for the pipes removed in this video (air filter cover (not removed in this video because of tape) 0.5 daNm EGR Electrovalve 1.2 daNM EGR valve 1 daNM
Thanks for the video! I shall be doing this ok my expert 2009 van next weekend, along with changing the sensor near by. Keep getting anti polllution warning… and keeps going into limp mode…. Well it comes and goes, but sometimes it will cut out in the middle of the road which isn’t great! So hoping a clean of the egr and changing the sensor will help
@ it has cured the issue of the limp mode and the engine light coming on. I’ve noticed it’s smoking a little more now when going up hill or putting my foot down hard - around 3000rpm. But it goes better now! And hasn’t failed me yet 😂 so happy days.
The best how to video I've seen. Very informative and explaining everything as you go. I haven't attempted it though. I seem to have a lot less space to work with (peugeot207sw) which puts me off
Thanks Marka885, much appreciated. As compared to other 1.6HDis, I do indeed have lots of space in my car to work on. The thing is though that you can see it on my car and potentially work in a more restricted space knowing how to do it. I really hope it helps a bit. All the best.
@@moremolecules yes very helpful and I have subscribed. Theres no way I'd be able to get the air filter out whole as you did. I'd be concerned that I'd remove something and not be able to get it back on haha. Having said that I will have to tackle the "anti pollution faulty" as I'd imagine that will fail mot.
@@marka885 It should be fairly simple to put something back together if you take it out. Take a lot of pictures. Yes, the anti pollution fault is an MOT failure. I bet is the DPF. Get it on the motorway for a good steady run and it may be forced to regenerate. Good luck
Nice job! I have a peugeot 207 1.6 hdi (2008) and 334.000 kms. For about 60.000 kms ago I took apart the EGR for cleaning and changed just the electrical part (from a citroen C2 1.4 hdi) because mine seemed to be stuck. I did not use at that time the lexia tool to make the matching of the EGR electrical part and despide of it worked fine and still works fine and the car runs good but last week I use the lexia to check if there were any trouble code and I saw two codes P1461 and P1462 both intermitent regarding to the EGR. I did the calculator test with the lexia and both electrical and mecanic valves did the noise as it should be. Then I deleted the fault codes and used the car over 400 kms. Today I checked with lexia again and there is just one code to read P1461 intermitent regarding to the electrical part of the EGR. Well, this time I decided to use the lexia to make it match (learning) to the EGR and I will drive the car again over 400 kms and them check again with lexia. What makes me confuse is that no engine light is on in the dash and the car runs smooth and fine. Do you thing it might be time to replace the full EGR because lexia is already , let's say, traying to advice me before the light goes on in the dash? Thanks mate!
Hi Marcos, than you for the comment with really detailed info and story. Maybe I should have pointed in the video that the recalibration is needed with a new EGR, but it does not mean that without a recalibration the EGR will not work. It will work, but might not be efficient or operating correctly, e.g. the ECU does not know the minimum and maximum of the current/new EGR, but only the positions of the old configuration. Let's say the old EGR had 0.5mm more movement in one direction as compared to the new one. The new one will not move that far and say there will be a gap. So, the ECU thinks that is has closed the EGR, but it is not due to the machining of the new EGR, it happens, they are not perfect copies of each other. So, from time to time there will be an error logged and it will be intermittent, in other words sometimes it does not work. This is just a thought example, it might not be this. Sometimes, EGR valves get stuck on the closed position (best case) and there will be no warning on the dash, just an error logged in the ECU. Most of the times there will not be a warning on the dash, depends on the model of HDi. I think I once did blocking of the EGR and eventually there was a depollution fault. If I were you I would wait a few more km and see if the error comes up again. If it does not, then the recalibration as worked. If it comes, I would replace it altogether.
@@moremolecules many thanks for your fast answer. I am very happy with my car, no problems since I bought it in 2008, just cleaning the EGR and I changed the common raíl sensor and the diésel pump sensor because the engine light turned on in the dash and lexia told me what to replace :). I have been racing also at Neubürgring with it.... ok... not racing, after all is just a 90 hp engine... let's say having some fun :) 😀 Saludos desde España amigo!
@@bestione761 Really cool, especially the Nurburgring. If you have some footage to share that would be awesome. 90bhp, but gutsy :-) I would love to have a go there in my one.
@@moremolecules I just made a video how I spent a day at Nurbüring with my family. Have a look in my chanel... you will see some pics of the car on the race track. Could not run too fast also because my wife was sitting beside 😞
Thank you for getting back to me on that. Can you explain in a bit more detail what is involved in making it possible for me to carry out and follow your advice where you've said, 'The new EGR needs to be recalibrated with PP2000, otherwise it might not work'. How will I be able to do that, please, after I have fitted a new replacement EGR Valve? What is a PP2000, where would I be able to get one, and how do I use it to recalibrate the EGR Valve?
OK, now I assumed from the error message that it was a Peugeot. Might be Citroen as well, same thing, no difference. A new EGR might or most likely not work as intended. What I mean by that is that the CPU will not know where the max/min of that EGR valve is. You might be lucky and the new EGR might work pretty well, or well enough, but you might not be, difficult to tell. The appropriate procedure is when a new EGR is put in to be recalibrated with Diagbox or PP2000 software for Peugeot and Lexia for Citroen. It is a proprietary software from PSA. You can get an "illegal" one from ebay with OBDII connector. Here is my procedure for calibrating the EGR: ua-cam.com/video/0s39tfitoso/v-deo.html
I'm just cleaning one at the moment, but I'm not going to try and dismantle the electronic actuator part. However, for the actual valve I'm dumped the whole thing in my ultrasonic cleaner, which seems to be doing the job quite well. Just rinse and dry then, maybe with a bit of dry lube, but then I doubt that will last long. The frustrating thing is not being able to test it to see if it works properly. Interestingly, it's got carbon in it. No oily mess which I see on some other EGRs. I guess that's a good thing. Mine is from a Ford 1.6 TDCI diesel.
Thank you very much! According to your review , I removed the EGR valve and performed a service, share. The EGR BU is not very dirty, but one bolt that Dill EGR to the engine block was released. After the service, the error disappeared, the car started to go very fast. But unfortunately not for long. After a week, the same problem appears. TELL ME WHAT ELSE YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO IN THIS PROBLEM
What was the error? Also, I did not understand the bit where you say something about one of the EGR bolts. You could always try to do the re-learning of the EGR valve: ua-cam.com/video/0s39tfitoso/v-deo.html Also, test the operation of the EGR valve if you have diagbox/pp2000/lexia
Thanks for the video! What are your opinion on cheap EGR valve (Ridex, Stark etc.) ? I thought I would take the electronic part from the original egr valve and put it on the cheap valve to save money
Yeah, not too sure about cheap EGR valves. It is a hit and miss. I bought a Haas one and it was not machined properly and gave errors straight away, no matter how many times I tried to polish the surfaces. Then I bought a Hella one and that has worked without a problem for the past 5-6 years. I know they are expensive, but sometimes it is more expensive to buy the cheaper ones. It could be that it would work, maybe I had a bad luck. I would not mix and match then like you suggest. They are likely to have been calibrated a bit and mixing and matching not not wrok too wel..
@@maxk7258 Yeah, I know. That was my experience, I am not saying that you can buy a cheap one (no swapping of parts) and it will not work. It might work pretty well. 200E is quite a bit. It is up to you, it could work you never know, it all depends on how long you intend to keep the car of course.
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I am sure a lot of people are thinking, that is a lot of effort. Can I just use an air intake spray and be done with this. Here is the result using a spray vs. toothbrush: ua-cam.com/video/koSxf67CtHI/v-deo.html
Also, for cleaning the EGR valve, use any carb cleaner or even better, dishwashing liquid and water. See here: ua-cam.com/video/koSxf67CtHI/v-deo.html
Thanks for the description very informative. What I found when doing this was that the parts had become magnetised making assembly difficult with the spring being magnetised it was jumping out of position .I eventually assembled and fount the rotor sticking/jerking and not returning to position. i left this overnight intending to de-magnetise the next day. came back the next day without doing anything the rotor was turning freely as it should. What happened overnight ... I don't know?
Hi MM, have you considered blanking the egr valve on this engine ?
I did this to my C-max, 2005, 2.0L TDI and produced a big improvement in mpg and performance.
I'd like to do it to my 2017, 1.5L HDI blue in my Peugeot 2008.
Also at what mileage would you expect the egr to give problems ?
Your opinion would be much valued, thanks.
@@nigelmitchell351 Good question nigel. I have considered it, but unlikely I will do it. Several reasons for that. Diesels get vilified a lot and blanking these does not help us using our diesels. There will be quite a bit more pollution once the EGR is blanked, mainly Nox. So, it will be polluting more. Separate from that is the operating temperature of the engine, the EGR reduces that, so a blanked EGR will increase a bit your cylinder temperature. There are multitude of positives to using the EGR, from pumping losses to making the cylinders/volume smaller when not needed, e.g. driving on a motorway, so that all in all reduces consumption. Good video that describes all of these is here: ua-cam.com/video/FrpyLvPodkc/v-deo.html
A genuine person trying to help fellow motorists save money10 out of 10 well done.
Don't normally comment on these how to videos, but this by far is the most comprehensive well explained tutorial I have ever come across, thank you
Thank you leon for the good words! Appreciated
Totally agree, well photographed & simply explained!
This is, by far, the best video I've managed to find on how to locate and remove the EGR-valve! Thank you so much and especially for taking your time, making sure to show how all the plugs are connected/disconnected and all the attachmentpoints for both the valve and all the plastic hosing.
Amazing isn't it, I'm blanking mine off tomorrow as I have had it remapped with EGR and DPF delete
I’m going to add what a few people have said on the comments. That I am so impressed with the talk through and video of this. By far the best explanation and video step by step guide I’ve seen. Thank you so much. I’ve now subscribed and going to be watching a lot more of your videos. Cheers.
Many thanks indeed for the good words, really appreciated! I generally try to do videos that I would want to watch and see how it is done and be able to do it myself from watching the video, rather than something quick and some important bits missing. I do not always suceed though.
Brilliant. Your attention to detail is second to none. Thank you.
Very good video with an EXCELLENT level of DEEP DETAIL! (I have a Citroen Berlingo 2007 1.6 HDi 75kw/55kw First Enterprise diesel van - so everything is identical to what you have shown here). I think I may need to do this on my own vehicle: I really like your style of 'How-to' (do any given task on whatever vehicle you happen to be dealing with). This is the best example of this I have ever seen on UA-cam. I just checked how much a NEW EGR Valve would cost for my vehicle (matched to my Registration number) from Euro Car Parts. (£170.00 for the Starline version - and £112.00 for the Wahler version - of this particular EGR Valve). Horrendously EXPENSIVE (for what it actually is), so it makes perfect sense to go to the small amount of time and effort to take off and clean the existing one, as you have done in this video. I have had to carry out multiple tasks on this vehicle over time, in the 6 years I have owned it, with only one of those HAYNES manuals to guide me, but these HAYNES MANUALS are ABSOLUTE SHIT. Really low quality garbage and a total waste of good money! (The photographs in these manuals are TERRIBLE, poorly focused black and white 'bog-standard' quality, and the instructions and explanations are very sketchy and limited, with a lot of important details left out, that you have to discover and work out for yourself when you come to doing the particular task on whatever vehicle it is covering at the time - in most cases.
Anyway, with all of that said, the point is, after watching this video of yours, I will now be able to CONFIDENTLY DUPLICATE everything you've just shown, AND be able to fully understand what to do, how to do it, and WHY I need to do it, (when it comes to overhauling and cleaning my own EGR Valve on my Citroen Berlingo van)!
What I love about this vehicle is that it is very easy and nice to drive, and very reliable, and it is delightfully economical on fuel - so I use it for all of my day-to-day, and longer-distance commuting from A to B, for both my personal and work-related use, and it gives me great service and value.
Many thanks indeed for the thorough and very nice comment, I rather appreciate it. I try to do a videos such that I would watch and get what I neeed to do the repair myself. Often I watch something and then quite a few things are missing and then I need to research everything myself. Sometimes, there is not a video at all. Of course, not always possible.
Many thanks again, appreciated.
Thanks for a very useful video. A removed and cleaned the EGR on a C4 picasso where the acessibility is very poor. Three hands would be needed for re-assembly and there is space for one and a half ... My problem was to avoid dropping the thin plate between engine and the EGR. My ultimate solution was two small drops of super glue close to the bolts loosely fixing the plate to the EGR. When the glue had dried it was easy to connect the EGR to the intercooler and then attaching bolts. No risk of dropping the plate! I guess that the small amount of glue won't interfere with the intended fit. Seems to work!
Very thorough video.Thank you for taking the time and effort to explain, in detail, how go about removing,stripping,cleaning and reinstalling the egr valve.Much appreciated!
HUGE THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO! I disassembled, cleaned and reassembled the EGR valve of my 2007 Peugeot 307 SW, all in less than 3 hours! THANK YOU!!!
IMMENSAMENTE GRAZIE PER QUESTO VIDEO! Grazie a questo ho smontato, ripulito e rimontato la valvola EGR della mia Peugeot 307 SW del 2007, il tutto in meno di 3 ore! GRAZIE!!!
Grazie per le belle parole e felice che sia stato di aiuto
As per many of the other comments - thank you for going into detail, especially all of the various plugs and clips. When you can't see how they undo it is easy to break things ( for me anyway).
Many thanks indeed for the nice comment, I certainly appreciate it. I do the videos, or at least try to do them in a way that one can see all the details even if I have not done that before. I hate when some details are not given and I have no idea how to do something. Then I spend 3 days looking at other videos for that particular detail. Unfortunately not always possible to cover everything even with best of intentions. All the best
Thank You for this Tutorial. You have saved me the workshop costs for someone else to be doing the work @ £70 or hr.
I appreciate this very much.
Thank you very much indeed oooyugi, really appreciated! It makes my day when I receive a comment like this.
Generally very few garages will clean the EGR valve, they always push for a new valve.
@@moremolecules
Hey Friend you made my day with this brilliant How-To film.
Curious -Can I use some thin ( 1 or 2mm ) Tin Plate out of my garage for a Home Made Blanking Plate ? Or does it need to be Stainless Steel ?
Also should there be a hole in said plate for the EML to go off ?
Thanks 🙏
@@oooyugi You can use anything. I would just get a blanking plate from a coke can or a beer can. It does not need to be stainless steel. It is a good question about the hole. I do not know the answer to that. Depending on the model you might not get EML from the blanking plate. For other car makes they have been successful with one or several holes to avoid EML. I guess you could try and see if that is the case with your model.
@@moremolecules
Hi. Also. Does the EGR Valve still have to work, even with a Blanking Plate fitted. Otherwise the van will remain on Limp Mode ? I suppose I’m asking can the faulty EGR be unplugged (or fault deleted on computer diagnostics ) and considered void with Plate in situ. As EGR isn’t being used no more so I will be basically buying a new EGR just to continue a correct electrical circuit. I hope I’m making sense.
@@oooyugi As far as I know, it will not work if you just unplug it. The computer knows that it is unplugged and will give you EML. The trick is to have it plugged, but blocked. If the EGR is faulty, the computer might still recognise this and give you EML.
Man, thank you A LOT
I opened the electrical part (thinking it would separate the black piece from the grey piece) and the spring jumped off.
I wasn't able to figure it out how it go back.
I searched a few hours on internet and finally came to your video
Thank you a lot, you just saved me a whole new EGR valve so around 250€ for an OEM !
Thank you! Hope everything is back together working
@@moremolecules not yet, I will continue tomorrow.
I just saw your coolant change, very good tips, especially your DIY header bleeder, I don't think I need that on my C4 because the collant tank is way higher than on your partner
But because its and LHD, the second bleeder is much harder to reache (kinda hidden by the air filter box)
Anyway, you got a very well deserved subscriber !
A massive thanks to you from France !
@@vlone59 AFAIK, there are two versions of the upper electronic EGR part in these engines. I have two videos that cover the different versions. It is only a slight difference. Good luck :-)
@@moremolecules I tried today but the valve won't return (unlike yours) I tried to let it soak in WD40 and it improved a lot, I had return (almost to the end of the position) but when I put it back and tried to calibrate it with diagbox, I get a failed calibration and if I try to check the values reported for the EGR valve, the result is "incorrect value" I think I'm good for a trip to the scrapyard to get an used one.
Since I am planning to block it with an Knox plate, it doesn't matter brand new or used.
I just want a working one since the MOT in France check for default codes via OBD and can refuse a car if some defaults are present (even if the engine light is off !)
I also saw 2 types of EGR valve but as I remember it not on the 1.6 HDi
The 1.4 HDi as a different one and the 2.0L HDi also an other one
@@vlone59 Do you mean the upper spring thing does not move freely back or the actual valve inside the bottom part? If is the upper, the spring is not positioned correctly. If it is the bottom, yes soak it in something, also wash it with washing up liquid, etc. If the upper moves alright and the bottom moves alright, but when you put them back together you get the errors, it is the way you put them back together. The bottom you only need to check if the pin can move along nicely in the channel.
You sir, are amazing. I followed your instructions, which were really clear and precise. And I now have a fully working car with no faults. Thank you so so much. Even down to how you take apart the egr valve and re do the spring inside the electrical connection part of the egr. thank you so much 🙏
Just finished cleaning the same egr and it also wasn't that bad but also was getting stuck towards the end of the run much like your's. What i did was knocking out the fork by hammering it gently and opened it completely. I then turned it upside down and knocked it on a piece of wood and a lot of carbon came out. Even after this it still felt like it was hard to turn and it turned out to be the bearing on the inside. I cleaned this with carburetor cleaner and greased it. Job done. Thanks for posting your video.
Great stuff, but I did not want to remove the fork, I will always screw something when removing components, so did not want another one. Well done!
Excellent job. Especially when you explain how to put back the electric part of EGR (spring).
Excellent video. My wife's Citroën C4 has much the same engine and we were quoted AUD2,500 to replace the valve, which the garage says has a faulty (intermittent), "sticking", EGR valve. Needless to say, we won't be bothering the garage again regarding the EGR valve.
Hi David, EGR valves are a bit expensive and it takes time to get to it and replace it, but AUD2,500 is way too much. 1/2 of that is kind of acceptable for a complete replacement.
Excellent video. Covers all the little issues you will possibly come across.
Intake spay never works It's always best to remove EGR valve to clean , great video again makes the job easy after watching this video .
Hi. Thanks for the tutorial. The attention to detail is amazing , explaining how the EGR functions was very helpful. Wishing you a prosperous New Year.
Thank you very much. You saved me from a lot of head scratching. You audio explanations are very detailed but easy to understand.
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I cleaned the EGR valve with an ultrasonic cleaner. It works very well.
Yes, that should work really well. Unfortunately I do not have one to try.
Excellent video, i can't thank you enough, i even changed my rail sensor while the egr was out, took it for a good run today, ran great, even got rid of the air pollution fault.
Nice one paul and thank you for the comment.
i love your videos!!! rounded bolts for egr and was so worried about finding it. all it took was a look at your descript. keep up the brill work.
Many thanks indeed for the good words, much appreciated! Funnily enough, the first time I ever did my EGR valve, I also rounded one of the bolts, hence the part number in the description of the video. Thanks again.
Много добро помагало за почистване на EGR клапана на MAZDA 3 (BK) 1.6 MZ-CD. Браво и много благодаря на more molecules за каченото видео.😀
Fantastic video even a beginner like myself could follow this video and understand what was being done. Many thanks
BRO!! You just fixed my car!! Well not literally.. I didn't have a replacement clip..... so i was like F4!!! so i just take off the black motor housing... and it was full up to the brim with black powder.. i blow it out best i can.. and lube up the motor spinner... replace... drive down road.. same hesitation and BS....... i floor it.. lots of smoke.. then WOOOSHHHHHH back to normal!!
MUCH LOVE HOMBRE!! Maybe pin this to help other people... i have searched for weeks and weeks to fix this problem
Yes, that would help a little bit, as the pins would not snag and would keep going.
What a cracking video. Although i don't have a 1.6 but a 2015 Euro 5 Expert 2.0 hdi 130bhp with the same symptoms. The boost is there especially in 1st gear but quickly disappears. It takes around 20+ seconds to get to 60mph. It's had a brand new turbo and EGR fitter in the last 10k miles. Also throttle body and inlet manifold removed and cleaned. No fault codes on mine. Full service too. New MAF and MAP.
Trouble is it's so tight in my engine bay. I can't access the solenoids at the back of the engine. Because the turbo works intermittently i don't think it's a pipe off but i could be losing boost The EGR seems to operate on startup too, so it's all got me a bit stumped. Thanks for the vid.
I completely sympathise with the amount of space. I would certainly look into the turbo solenoid. It could well be a bit stuck, so little boost provided. There was a video somewhere of cleaning it, but difficult to get to and the price of a new one is really cheap. Not too certain about the 2.0HDi and it is a newer model than mine, but there must be a relief valve somewhere between the injectors. That should be free of gunk.
Of all the citroen / HD engine videos i have watched this guy is the TOPS ! Fantastic , thank you Marcus 🙏🙏🎶🎵🎶🎵
Thank you! Means a lot.
Thank you for this instructions.
That the best and more details for new drivers. Home service station!
Respekt.
Awesome! When you showed that special tool for the round clamp I was like "hmm can't we fit a ring clamp that uses a screw, and then you tell you did just that, nice!
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Tool costs less than £10 in the UK. Not expensive considering lots of cars use them.
Thanks mate I'm currently under my bonnet watching this... NOW i know how to do it❤🏴
i agree with all others nice to see you taking time to explain everything you are doing, the best one i have come across in a long time, thankyou.
Thank you for your information and your time . When I did mine I just pushed the fuel filter to one side and undid the frame that holds it . That way I didn't have to mess around with it .
Thank you so much for making this video my friend. It had been really helpful and I have learned how to do it myself! God bless you!
Thank you for taking the time to make and share these helpful videos. Not sure I would have worked out the spring on the EGR acruator without your demonstration. For non Partner owners the air box has to be taken apart before it will clear the bulkhead, Just 3 screws with allen heads so not too bad.
Great video,I really appreciate the fact that you specified the torque for the egr bolts too. Cheers.
I always do torque with a torque wrench, as I am a bit ham fisted and tend to snap bolts. I generally do not rely on my feel for the bolts, I always think they are not tight enough 🙂
@@moremolecules me too,I use the torque wrench for every bolt.
Thanks again.
Excellent video. Have had mine fitted without removal to 150,000 miles. Just starting to get boost faults. Time to check out.
43/5000
thank you for the video tomorrow I'm going to clean EGR on mine SHITROEN
Good luck :-)
Very informative. Thank you for taking all this time to make the video.
Genuinely excellent guide. I did the same on a C4 Grand Picasso, A LOT less room but eventually sorted. The bracket between the EGR and recirculating pipe needs to be fully removed before you pull out the EGR, I managed to bend the pipe and pipe flanges a bit because I left the bracket on not wanting to lose it in the engine bay. Thank you! Brilliant. 😁👍
Top quality video, thank you. I can now do my own EGR with confidence.
Thanks a lot mate! I will do replace my one soon. Mary Christmas!
This video was a genuine lifesaver after the motor on the valve seized open causing it to go lean and cut out on the motorway.
I do have one note however, if you're doing this job on a small car like a 207, it is required that you remove the diesel filter from the bracket and the bracket itself otherwise you literally cannot reach in with your hands to grab anything. You don't have to remove the filter but it would probably make it easier but I'm lazy.
Also, the lower EGR bolt is an absolute pain to get to on the 207 as it is buried under wiring, fuel lines and a coolant line so make sure you have a decent extension and a extendable magnet on hand for when you inevitably drop something into the abyss
Good step by step vidéo. Thanks for showing all the procedure with propre comments.
Thx for this detailed video. I did it today at an Citroen Xsara Picasso N68 1.6 HDI, it's a pain in the ass, there is so much less space compared to your car, but it is still possible to mange :)
Hi Dexter, yes, my engine bay was designed to accommodate the 2.0HDi, thus luckily for me there is plenty of space. It could still be done for other models, but is a bit of contortionist effort.
Thanks for showing its best way i liked your video discription and in detail without missing picture or great
Great tutorial, as always. You are a blessing
Great video very informative for sumeone who has not done this before(like me) I am going to put mine in my ultrasonic cleaner this weekend with some screwfix degreaser
Hi Scotty, ultrasonic cleaner will be really good for this purpose. Is it a DIY-style or specifically purchased.
@@moremolecules I purchased it on line.Im also going to try and clean the DPF
Fantastic video and explanation, thank you very much
Thanks Colin, appreciate it.
Thank you for taking the fear out of working on this engine, God bless you
Thank you, once you see it visually it is relatively easy to do.
Thank you so much i've been able to clean my egr valve following your video step by step ! Much love
Amazing level of detail !
Hi Gobrosse, that is how I like to do it, hopefully it is easier for people to do it themselves.
@@moremolecules I did the operation on my recently acquired 2004 C3 XTR, with the DV4TED4 engine (the 1.4hdi 16 valver that the 1.6 replaced), it was similar enough, but I have a few remarks:
- (on my model at least) you can get away with not undoing the fuel filter, just sliding it out of it's rails and shoving it away allows for removing the airbox with a bit of shuffling arround. So I saved having to worry about bubbles in my system/priming it with the pump.
- you didn't cover cleaning the EGR tube that goes from the EGR valve to the intake. That tube was a massive pita to get out since I had ECU wiring in the way and didn't figure out how to unplug it.
On mine, the EGR valve itself was the pneumatic version and was barely dirty, but the tube was absolutely filthy and I suspect was causing issues. I cleaned it up with a stick, soap, WD40 and the hose, then erased the error codes and the engine light went away, hopefully it stays that way. I'll make sure to regularly blast it clean on the autobahn :)
@@Hugobros3 Yes I did not, but it is on my todo list. The thing is that apart from the EGR pipe, one also probably needs to clean the air intake for the cylinders, as these will be also covered with soot. Because it is quite a bit of work removing all the wiring and injector pipes, I am waiting to get a second car and then do all the work.
I do not think it matters if you give it a blast now and then, it will generate the soot anyway. The main problem is the oil that goes from the crankcase/turbo and creates a bit of hard mixture with the soot. Maybe the 1.4hdi is a bit better in that respect, but I doubt it.
This is by far the most thorough video i have watched, i only wanted to change a tyre but i learned how to change an egr valve aswell 😉... absolutely fantastic, keep it up buddy!! Karl from wales 👊
Hahaha, thank you karl, much appreciated.
Köszönöm a segítséget Magyarorszàg Sìòfokròl örök hàla.👌
Great video! Everything is explained step by step!
Just cleaned and blanked off the EGR on my 1.6DHI C5. Thanks for the info, very helpful for full strip down. Unfortunately my EGR is still defective, so will probably need a new one. Suspect the electric part is faulty. I cleaned the metal part in an ultrasonic cleaner and it came out very shiny! About the easiest way to clean it I reckon.
Yes, mostly the electronic part fails and rather difficult to repair. Ahh, yes ultrasonic cleaner will be the best, but unfortunately I have no access to one. What ultrasonic cleaner are you using?
@@moremolecules I just bought a cheap generic one off Amazon (it says Rovsun on it) to clean rifle silencers with. Would suggest you get one that is heated - it works a lot better. Also, no need to buy fancy liquids - just use water with a mild detergent (I just use washing up liquid). Mine is 2L so only just big enough for an EGR.
@@GdaySport Ahh, yes I found it and many thanks indeed for the name, much appreciated. I always wanted one, but have not had the chance to get one. Always useful to clean parts.
@@moremolecules Works great for motorcycle carburettors too :-)
Great video, very informative and easy instructions to follow, thanks for posting
brilliant video, helped a lot when i had to remove the erg on my fiat scudo van
Hi sean, glad it has helped, but did not know it is similar, if it is, for the fiat scudo van.
peugeot expert, citroen dispatch and fiat scudo all the same. 👍🏻
@@seanguild6528 Ha, thanks for the info, much appreciated. It makes sense I guess, same as the pugs/ford/volvo/suzuki/mazda with respect to the 1.6HDi/TDCi
Very very good mechanichs and exellent explanation.
You are very good in teaching and showing how to work ina a engine. THANKYOU VRERY MUCH FOR THIS EXELLENT VIDEO. 100 %
Haha, thank you, although I am no mechanic, but try to maintain some level of standard.
Thankyou for your in-depth instruction
Best one I have seen. You are really good.
What an excellent video! I have exactly the same model and your video will help me immensely when I tackle this job tomorrow..Thank you and I have subscribed as you seem to have lots of interesting stuff on your channel.
I have now done the job and want to say thank you so much. It was very easy because I had seen your video.
Sir you have earned a subscriber, top video, thank you for all the effort!
Looked up the torque setting for the things in this video for completion:
Pipe collar tightening bolts, all 0.3 daNm for the pipes removed in this video
(air filter cover (not removed in this video because of tape) 0.5 daNm
EGR Electrovalve 1.2 daNM
EGR valve 1 daNM
Nice one. That is what I thought for the dimension of the bolts, ~10-12Nm.
Thanks for the video!
I shall be doing this ok my expert 2009 van next weekend, along with changing the sensor near by.
Keep getting anti polllution warning… and keeps going into limp mode…. Well it comes and goes, but sometimes it will cut out in the middle of the road which isn’t great! So hoping a clean of the egr and changing the sensor will help
Did it solve the problem?
@ it has cured the issue of the limp mode and the engine light coming on. I’ve noticed it’s smoking a little more now when going up hill or putting my foot down hard - around 3000rpm. But it goes better now! And hasn’t failed me yet 😂 so happy days.
Very clear and instructive! Congratulations!
Very well and thoroughly explained.. 👍
The best how to video I've seen. Very informative and explaining everything as you go. I haven't attempted it though. I seem to have a lot less space to work with (peugeot207sw) which puts me off
Thanks Marka885, much appreciated. As compared to other 1.6HDis, I do indeed have lots of space in my car to work on. The thing is though that you can see it on my car and potentially work in a more restricted space knowing how to do it. I really hope it helps a bit. All the best.
@@moremolecules yes very helpful and I have subscribed. Theres no way I'd be able to get the air filter out whole as you did. I'd be concerned that I'd remove something and not be able to get it back on haha. Having said that I will have to tackle the "anti pollution faulty" as I'd imagine that will fail mot.
@@marka885 It should be fairly simple to put something back together if you take it out. Take a lot of pictures. Yes, the anti pollution fault is an MOT failure. I bet is the DPF. Get it on the motorway for a good steady run and it may be forced to regenerate. Good luck
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing.
Clearly impressed, I've got the 2012 1.6hdi 308 need to lift the bonnet and check if same layout 👍
There might be some differences, but it should be similar
Brilliant exclamations for the whole process 😊
You explained things fairly well
Nice job! I have a peugeot 207 1.6 hdi (2008) and 334.000 kms. For about 60.000 kms ago I took apart the EGR for cleaning and changed just the electrical part (from a citroen C2 1.4 hdi) because mine seemed to be stuck. I did not use at that time the lexia tool to make the matching of the EGR electrical part and despide of it worked fine and still works fine and the car runs good but last week I use the lexia to check if there were any trouble code and I saw two codes P1461 and P1462 both intermitent regarding to the EGR. I did the calculator test with the lexia and both electrical and mecanic valves did the noise as it should be. Then I deleted the fault codes and used the car over 400 kms. Today I checked with lexia again and there is just one code to read P1461 intermitent regarding to the electrical part of the EGR. Well, this time I decided to use the lexia to make it match (learning) to the EGR and I will drive the car again over 400 kms and them check again with lexia. What makes me confuse is that no engine light is on in the dash and the car runs smooth and fine. Do you thing it might be time to replace the full EGR because lexia is already , let's say, traying to advice me before the light goes on in the dash? Thanks mate!
Hi Marcos, than you for the comment with really detailed info and story.
Maybe I should have pointed in the video that the recalibration is needed with a new EGR, but it does not mean that without a recalibration the EGR will not work. It will work, but might not be efficient or operating correctly, e.g. the ECU does not know the minimum and maximum of the current/new EGR, but only the positions of the old configuration. Let's say the old EGR had 0.5mm more movement in one direction as compared to the new one. The new one will not move that far and say there will be a gap. So, the ECU thinks that is has closed the EGR, but it is not due to the machining of the new EGR, it happens, they are not perfect copies of each other. So, from time to time there will be an error logged and it will be intermittent, in other words sometimes it does not work.
This is just a thought example, it might not be this.
Sometimes, EGR valves get stuck on the closed position (best case) and there will be no warning on the dash, just an error logged in the ECU. Most of the times there will not be a warning on the dash, depends on the model of HDi. I think I once did blocking of the EGR and eventually there was a depollution fault.
If I were you I would wait a few more km and see if the error comes up again. If it does not, then the recalibration as worked. If it comes, I would replace it altogether.
@@moremolecules many thanks for your fast answer. I am very happy with my car, no problems since I bought it in 2008, just cleaning the EGR and I changed the common raíl sensor and the diésel pump sensor because the engine light turned on in the dash and lexia told me what to replace :).
I have been racing also at Neubürgring with it.... ok... not racing, after all is just a 90 hp engine... let's say having some fun :) 😀
Saludos desde España amigo!
@@bestione761 Really cool, especially the Nurburgring. If you have some footage to share that would be awesome.
90bhp, but gutsy :-) I would love to have a go there in my one.
@@moremolecules I just made a video how I spent a day at Nurbüring with my family. Have a look in my chanel... you will see some pics of the car on the race track. Could not run too fast also because my wife was sitting beside 😞
@@bestione761 Looked like a good day out. Nice colour on the 207, I quite like those 207s.
Thank you for the tutorial. Great movie!
A true professional, rare these days👍
Great video, & Commentary 👍
Thank you! 👍
Great videos and well explained and no bull
Thank you Robert, much appreciated!
Thank you ... this is very helpful...well done 👍👍👍👍
very good video and extremely well referenced, thank you.
Great video man. Bravo 👏👏👏
Thank you! Excellent video.
Great video! Thank You Very Much With Your Great knowledge And patience.
excelente video amigo....excelent video pal
Thank you brother.... It's was very interesting... 👍
Thank you for getting back to me on that. Can you explain in a bit more detail what is involved in making it possible for me to carry out and follow your advice where you've said, 'The new EGR needs to be recalibrated with PP2000, otherwise it might not work'.
How will I be able to do that, please, after I have fitted a new replacement EGR Valve? What is a PP2000, where would I be able to get one, and how do I use it to recalibrate the EGR Valve?
OK, now I assumed from the error message that it was a Peugeot. Might be Citroen as well, same thing, no difference. A new EGR might or most likely not work as intended. What I mean by that is that the CPU will not know where the max/min of that EGR valve is. You might be lucky and the new EGR might work pretty well, or well enough, but you might not be, difficult to tell.
The appropriate procedure is when a new EGR is put in to be recalibrated with Diagbox or PP2000 software for Peugeot and Lexia for Citroen. It is a proprietary software from PSA. You can get an "illegal" one from ebay with OBDII connector. Here is my procedure for calibrating the EGR: ua-cam.com/video/0s39tfitoso/v-deo.html
Excellent job thanks 👍👍
I would like to have seen the engine start up,but great informative video,thanks !
There was no difference at all, starting before and after to be honest.
Yeah, sometimes when I make these videos you cannot think about all, haha.
@@moremolecules thanks, didn't now if it would make a big difference to the running
@@richardhunt304 Yeah, my EGR valve was relatively clean, so no difference, but if it was properly clogged, then probably it would make a difference.
El mejor tutorial que he visto....muchisimas gracias por compartir.!!! Me va a ser de gran ayuda....
Muchas gracias por el comentario y aliento.
Thaks for showing that cable clip on the egr ;-)
I'm just cleaning one at the moment, but I'm not going to try and dismantle the electronic actuator part.
However, for the actual valve I'm dumped the whole thing in my ultrasonic cleaner, which seems to be doing the job quite well. Just rinse and dry then, maybe with a bit of dry lube, but then I doubt that will last long.
The frustrating thing is not being able to test it to see if it works properly.
Interestingly, it's got carbon in it. No oily mess which I see on some other EGRs. I guess that's a good thing.
Mine is from a Ford 1.6 TDCI diesel.
Yeah, that is probably the best method to clean it. Unfortunately, I do not have an ultrasonic cleaner, maybe I should get one.
@@moremolecules It's overkill for this particular use. I have it for cleaning clock parts.
Thank you very much! According to your review , I removed the EGR valve and performed a service, share. The EGR BU is not very dirty, but one bolt that Dill EGR to the engine block was released. After the service, the error disappeared, the car started to go very fast. But unfortunately not for long. After a week, the same problem appears. TELL ME WHAT ELSE YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO IN THIS PROBLEM
What was the error? Also, I did not understand the bit where you say something about one of the EGR bolts.
You could always try to do the re-learning of the EGR valve: ua-cam.com/video/0s39tfitoso/v-deo.html
Also, test the operation of the EGR valve if you have diagbox/pp2000/lexia
Thanks for tutorial, will be useful :)
Thanks for the video! What are your opinion on cheap EGR valve (Ridex, Stark etc.) ? I thought I would take the electronic part from the original egr valve and put it on the cheap valve to save money
Yeah, not too sure about cheap EGR valves. It is a hit and miss. I bought a Haas one and it was not machined properly and gave errors straight away, no matter how many times I tried to polish the surfaces. Then I bought a Hella one and that has worked without a problem for the past 5-6 years. I know they are expensive, but sometimes it is more expensive to buy the cheaper ones. It could be that it would work, maybe I had a bad luck.
I would not mix and match then like you suggest. They are likely to have been calibrated a bit and mixing and matching not not wrok too wel..
@@moremolecules Thanks for your answer! Well, then I'll go for the HELLA one but the price haha is like 200 euros here in Germany
@@maxk7258 Yeah, I know. That was my experience, I am not saying that you can buy a cheap one (no swapping of parts) and it will not work. It might work pretty well. 200E is quite a bit. It is up to you, it could work you never know, it all depends on how long you intend to keep the car of course.
You'r doing a great job
*Thanks for this vid !* 😉👍
Beautiful mastery
Excellent video
Excellent and very good english!
Big thank you!😃