Sexuality is a Choice
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- Опубліковано 31 гру 2020
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Roughly speaking, there are two modes of inquiry into the most important questions we can ask about ourselves. The first, we might describe as the ancient approach, is to ask, what is a human person and what best produces the flourishing of the human person?
This approach treats this question as both an internal and external one. Internal because we are human beings ourselves, and so we can look at our own personal experiences to inform the answer, but also because there are other human beings external to myself who can give us more perspective than only one person can.
The other approach, which we could call the modern approach, asks, what brings the fulfillment of the self? What will bring me satisfaction? The inquiry in this case is not external, but merely internal.
We look at everything through the lens of the subjective rather than the objective. We want to find ways for my appetite, my desires, my beliefs, and my dreams and ambitions to find satisfaction.
For me, there’s a simple way of contrasting these two sensibilities. Ask yourself what is more noble and good - the flourishing or fulfillment of an individual person or the flourishing and fulfillment of a community of individuals?
If you say it’s better that many should flourish, then our exploration for how to encourage that outcome should be an exploration of what is common and shared. It should examine humanity and the human person rather than just the isolated selfish individual perspective.
The modern world frames this question as something personal - to each his own. You do you. You speak your truth. These are the trademarks relativism and subjectivism.
But if we can all agree that it’s better for many to thrive than for only one to thrive, then we necessarily have to expand our inquiry to consider what is common to all of us - it assumes that there is something objective that informs our inquiry about ourselves and about reality.
And this is what the ancient world did. It sought to understand the human person. What is a human person, what is our purpose, what leads to our flourishing and fulfillment? Notice that all of these questions are inclusive of the many.
Whereas, the modern world says, what is my purpose, what is my perspective, what is my truth, and how do I find my own personal fulfillment.
And if we get off track and our dysfunctions become too much to bear, what do we do? We seek psychological therapy where the focus is again, on the self. We spend hours talking about ourselves. Not about ethics, not about spiritual fulfillment, not about anything objective or external, only internal and subjective.
Read the whole transcript at: brianholdsworth.ca
“Thus, a good man, though a slave, is free; but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave. For he serves, not one man alone, but, what is worse, as many masters as he has vices.” - St. Augustine,City of God
I'm a simple (repentant) man, I read St. Augustine, I click like.
@John Smith there is a cure for what you are going through. A form of self refinement process. But it takes time and you have to be willing ...and of course be able to see the sickness. Without that there is little hope.
I'll be a king with vices before I'm a slave to a man
a SLAVE is free (if it's a good man) ...I See, War is peace...
@@moestietabarnak Yes, it's complicated. Requires some thought and wisdom. Try some of the original church father - Maximus perhaps.
Anybody that's taking Brian's title of the video verbatim has not watched his channel enough lol.
I almost fell for it! 😆😆... I waited to unleash after watching the video... Only to realize it was well said!
@Scott Seufert Is this necessary a bad thing? The title can maybe be misleading, Brian maybe used menthal reservation , but when can be used ?What does moral theology say about it?
In what cases do You justify menthal reservation ? Thank You❤️
Brian doesn't give clickbate titles, he gives *provocative* titles.
@@laleydelamor1327 I see it more as the initial premise he is speaking on, the default one of our society. In other words, it is literally and figuratively his starting place.
@@LostArchivist Yes, I understand. I just wanted to discuss with @Scott Seufert, whose reply I don’t see anymore. He said something like “clickbate is lying”.
I don’t understand much of moral theology, but I do think in title are some elements of equivocation, and I don’t find anything wrong about it. I’ll try to explain, although my english is poor.
Without questionmark at the end of title, one can conclude that this sentence is a statement. Onley after waching vid is clear it’s not.
But Brian doesn’t use equivocation to reach his own goal, or to gain some benefit for himself, but rather uses it for good cause. His channel is used for evangelization and he does it very well.
I would really like to hear what would some moral theologian say about it and if my understanding of equivocation is wrong. May dear God bless You an our dear Brian, and us all!❤️
It's quite comparable with food. I remember when I ate dozens of chocolates and candy per day, until i switched to healthy food. I didn't like it first, but then I got used to it. And now i like the healty food and I can't even imagine how i possible could eat that much sweet stuff and sugar before. Decide consciously what's right. Your liking should arise out of your conscious decision, and not the other way around: your conscious approval arising out of your unconscious liking. Don't live like an animal.
Well said.
Yea, the more sugar you consume, the more you want, and the more you'll need. If you lack temperance and decision making, and are lead by instinct, the hunger will only grow. I've had to deal with a warped sexuality since I was a kid. One of the biggest revelations I had was that my attractions didn't define me. The lower faculties don't make me who I am. It is my intellect and the choices I make which matters the most. If I want to truly be free, I have to tame the passions in me and follow the law completely. The way I see it, subjectivity and pleasure are prisons where one becomes a slave to an existence defined by exponential consumption. Becoming more and more blind by their hunger and sin. The temperance and wisdom of truth is the only thing which can bring you lasting order and peace. That is an existence serving God and submitting to his eternal edicts, which by design, fulfill you and bring you closer to him.
@@dakabaka4912 I needed to hear this. Thank you.
Excellent comment
I am a recovering sugar addict myself. Once I finally got off sugar, it felt like being free after years of being enslaved to urges out of my control. It borderline felt like being possessed sometimes. Cause even while I was unable to stop myself binge eating sugary treats, I would be full of self-loathing and regret and hopelessness at the same time.
Addiction is absolutely horrible. Mine was extremely difficult to break, but it was SO worth it. Never going back.
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@@jula5417 this was really beautiful!
I've only seen one comment engaging critically and intelligently here.
'When your intellect and your will are dominated by your appetites you are addicted.' Well said. This is a truism for all people. God sets forth guidelines to protect us, not to oppress us.
Belief in God is being dominated by an appetite for perfection and materialism, and this appetite dominates our humility and turns it into pride. “He thinks I’m perfect” and “God forgives me” is just a variation of the phrase “I am considered perfect” and “I deserve forgiveness.”
Also you missed a large part of Brian’s remaining points and the titling of this video, but cherish your 47 passive upvotes.
A lot of words that you use to diminish me and others as a human being. That's because you treat my sexuality as mere passion, which is a cheap rhetorical device. In my case, as a kid, I had a sense that I was different from many of my peers, but it was years before there was even a sexual component. Later as I got older, there was indeed a sexual aspect to my attraction to other males, but it wasn't the whole thing. I didn't marry my husband because of sex, I married him because I love him, he loves me, and we want to participate in the many rights and responsibilities that come with being married.
But sure, yeah, diminish me by pretending my sexuality is just about what body parts I enjoy rubbing up against. Yep, that's all there is.
It is though. I hate to break it to you, but if it wasn't a purely physical attraction or desire, you should be able to connect to a woman no problem. Just because you're "different" you HAVE to engage in homosexuality? Doesn't make any sense to me.
You deny your family to continue so you could selfishly engage in this false confused love. Again why can't you love woman the same way?
I won't say you and partner don't love each other but it's definitely a very confused love.
@@canonsprite Dude everybody's relationship is based on physical attraction. The question is why should he NOT engage in homosexuality? THAT doesn't make sense to me. Whether its natural or unnatural or you are born gay or not is irrelevant. The point is its between consenting adults so what is the issue?
And our species will go extinct someday so whether your family continues or not is unimportant.
@@canonsprite What are you talking about? Whether its natural or unnatural or born gay or not its irrelevant. Point is its between consenting adults so what is the issue? Why should he NOT be with a man? Sorry to break it to you but Humans will go extinct someday anyway so the family part is mute. Irrelevant.
The Simp: Grows beard to get attention from girls.
The Chad Brian: Grows beard to strike fear in to his adversaries.
Is Brian a Nazirite?
He seems so wise with it too :)
not only is oriantaion not a choice, wanting a husband isn't an addiction, just as deseiering to have a wife as a husband. addiction is debliitating and is when your deisers destroy your life, and you NEED a desire rather than simply want anymore. look man how many people in this comment section are married? do all those stright married people have an addiction to their oriantation or sexual desires?
i don't think this guy knows what addiction is. gay sex isn't by it'self an addiction.
also, the only argument i need to make against this guy is this- Choose the middle path and regulate your sexual desires
@@skeletronmk6669 Milo would disagree with you
I appreciate that you are trying to sound compassionate and objective in this video. And I also agree that simple sexual urges and impulses are not necessarily positive things to be indulged but can be negative and dehumanizing. But when it comes to same sex attraction, there's a difference between a heterosexual person who is simply indulging their sexual impulses with somebody of the same sex, and someone who is truly homosexual seeking a romantic, committed relationship. Whatever your position on Church teaching, whether you agree with the church's teaching on homosexuality or you disagree with it, there has to be a distinction between a person who would just as soon gratify themselves with anything or anyone available and someone who is mentally, emotionally, and biologically programmed towards romantic relationship with the same gender. Yes, truly LGBTQ people are fairly rare in the big scheme of the global population, but it doesn't mean that we should reduce them and their orientation to simple cravings to be controlled just because it's not how WE were created.
The problem Is that even you think for some reason that people who identify as gay are not truly gay. That Is complete bullshit, why would someone risk the relationships with his Friends and family for no reason?
@@bs0267 ummm, what? Not sure how you got that from my comment.
@@drm7552 Becuase apparently I am an idiot. And english isn't my First language, Sorry 😭
@@bs0267 Ahhh, no worries! That explains it. Peace! 🕊️
@@drm7552 👍🏾
Last comment: the LGBTQ+ community was formed because they suffered legal and social marginalization, and were discriminated against in housing and employment (among other things). If they were not subjugated in the ways they historically have been, there would be no need for an LBGTQ+ community because they would be fully integrated into their local communities. Please read some history on this if you haven't already, the idea that LGBTQ+ people only band together to be horny is blatantly false. The Black community has a similar story, as does the Native American community, etc.
Spoke like a true Marxist.
@@No_name860 McCarthy, back from the grave! Go back whence you came.
It's unrealistic because in the past, religion was big so realistically gay people in the past would had faced death penalty
@@christianrowbotham7386 that's the thing though, religion hasn't always opposed being gay. The past few centuries make it easy to think it's always been like this, but the major shifting point was colonizination by Europe. What we now call the nuclear family came into being as a concept in the past couple hundred years, and its main purpose was to saturate peoples' life with hierarchies, so that european empires wouldn't be questioned so much.
(extremely simplified and I'm butchering a ton of nuance here)
This is literally brain rot. Stop watching porn.
Hey Brian, greetings from germany!
I attend university at the moment, mainly courses on literature and philosophy and i have to say that your videos are incredibly inspiring and motivate me to further reflect on the issues i'm also often confronted with in the lectures.
Besides that i have a question: Since i just finished reading the Word on Fire Bible and found it incredibly fascinating, i was wondering wether you have maybe also read it and what your opinion on it is, and if not, what kind of Bible translation are you using currently?
Thank you for your great content!
Hey, could you tell me about what the book that you have read talk (world on fire bible)
I don't ever heard it before
@@rahimerayane4298 it is a Bible commentary by an american apostolat called „Word on Fire“. Currently there is just the Commentary on the gospels available But more is to come. „Word on Fire“ also has a UA-cam presence and a Short Video where they introduce the Book if you want to check it out :)
It got a little bit of flag from More traditionalist catholics but I really enjoyed reading it
@@rahimerayane4298 maybe you have heard of Bishop Robert Barron, he is the head of Word on Fire and the Main commentator in the Book.
I have it (they sent me one) but I haven't spent much time in it. I'm not even sure what translation it is. I think different translations have different advantages depending on the reader and what their needs are. I'm sure it's serving people who need it.
I think you just made a good case against sexual practices that we all agree are bad like pedophilia or rape, but how does any of this explain why sexuality is a choice, if you could choose to be gay why not try it for a day or two and tell me how you like it
“So be sure to vote accordingly”!! Bingo
Be sure to vote accordingly is just a nonsensical statement the way he framed it. What turns us on us part of who we are, there is no choice. Whether we act upon it may be a different matter.
By all accounts religion could be considered an addiction. Studies have found that faith and drugs interact with similar portions of the brain.
I’m sorry, I was distracted but the awesomeness of the beard.
No... ✨Intimidated✨
That's one regal beard.
Elizabeth ... I bet your beard is distracting as well...tame it.
As a recovering addict, I find it hard to hear that there is a universal human experience. Not all people experience craving and compulsion the same way. Addiction is not a moral failure because for people like me, the will can be hijacked by a complicated bio-psycho-social response that is way beyond the scope of your ideas here. Addiction requires a spiritual response, but not because people choose to be chemically dependent. Recovering addicts have other things in common, like humility, so you might try hanging out with some of us sometime. I know you think you speak for everyone, life really just isn't that simple. And since your world view on addiction seems quite limited, I would have to infer that it has its limits in this area as well.
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Some therapists are as you describe, but in my experience, most want you to become a healthy family member and contributing member of society. They have different ideas of what that is, but most will be far less indulgent than you describe.
It''s definitely not a choice. It's absolutely something else.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING THIS
I haven't heard Brian talking about Holy Mary yet. Look forward for that.
Always a great video Brian. I love this explanation. Thank you again!
I just started watching today and I love your videos. Subscribed and clicked the bell!
Well-reasoned you might want to comment further on abstinence doesn't necessarily mean to abstain forever someone below believes it does that's where he's making his mistake
another thing , celibacy is a spiritual gift , that's real - not everyone receives this present , and many wouldn't want it - never-the-less it's real !
celibacy isn't some special thing. It doesn't make you "pure" and having sex isn't a bad thing.
@@WyattCayer , yes celibacy is a SPECIAL gift for those that have or want it - but it in itself doesn't make someone good or bad !
Yes, Hagrid is totally intimidating.
His beard is growing stronger
He's the guy from the "chad" meme.
This isn't even its final form.
A trimmed beard shows more self discipline.
You have such a gift of cutting through all the extraneous and getting straight to the point with both reason and eloquence!! Bravo!
The flourishing of the community, rightly understood, leads to the flourishing of the individual. They are not divorcable.
True, but I always begin with the individual _first._
LGBT people cannot flourish under oppressive theocracies
@@theroguejester6412 Good
Dude, your hair is so good!! Thanks for the great vids!
I know you write good copy because have the perfect way for formulating words to capture complexity and nuance.
Woaw Ive never seen sexuality with that perspective, Im shook, its so mind blowing . This is a very good reflexion 👍👍 Thank you and God bless you
Indeed and I never looked in the Bible in the perspective that it is historically wrong
I think you outlined this principle very clearly, but it feels as though you just scratched the surface of something much more complicated. Speaking as a same-sex attracted Catholic woman, I fully accept and understand the teaching of 'your desires should not govern your choices'. I know plenty of lesbian women who agree with this principle too.
But for us, that's irrelevant. It's a moot point. The key question, for us, is whether falling in love with a woman (and pursuing a romantic relationship with them) is wrong. If we're unable to find evidence (secular or otherwise) as to why it IS wrong, unhealthy, damaging for society etc. then why should we deny ourselves the joy of a loving relationship? This is the question we struggle with, and I'd love to hear more from you on the topic.
Hey, I'm really appreciate and respect your view, in fact I don't want to start any argument I'm just want to show you my view,
Firstly each person is born in a state of spiritual purity, but upbringing and the allure of worldly pleasures and through his society that this pure nature changes and may corrupt him and is perverted to a pevert person and to bad thoughts and to bad beliefs, so i think it is us who corrupt our selves,
anyway as you know homosexuals go against the natural disposition which god has created in mankind and also in animals whereby the male is inclined towards the female, and vice versa. Whoever goes against that goes against the natural disposition of mankind and natural instinct.
People become homosexuals because of their environments,the homosexuality it is a deviant behavior, But that it does not mean that we hate the homosexual person but we should help those persons as much as we can to get out of this evil,We should not leave them to the temptations of the Satan.
Sorry I hope i didn't wrote something offended you
I'm wondering if it is still a will & intellect answer as it is a question of one's desires not being rightly ordered according to the natural law (which is God's law of course)? Teleology addresses the question of what a 'thing' is ordered towards. Sex is primarily ordered towards procreation (& of course union- drawing the couple closer). Homosexual relations frustrate the teleology of sexual intercourse (obviously there is no possibility of conceiving a child by natural means without both sperm and egg present in the intercourse), and thus our will & intellect can deduce such physical relations are a wrong use of the natural physiology of man and woman.
@@veritascaritas7925 yes sir you are right I'm totally agree with
You,good point from you, in fact i did a search about why Islam forbade people to eating of pork and What's that got to do with Homosexual and why people become Homosexuals in fact I was confused, they think
The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth,and they said also It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate., most people consume pork. Many times after dance parties, they have swapping of wives; many say "you sleep with my wife and I will sleep with your wife." So they think If you eat pigs then you behave like pigs، and you can do a search about this subject and check it out, sorry If I wrote something hurt your feelings it's just my opinion.
@@veritascaritas7925 Teleology is not generally accepted. Religious people state there are only two acceptable ends for sex, but there's evidence in nature for additional intentions. Natural Law is an invented concept. Should be subject to change as we learn more about human relations.
@@TheRealShrike Teleology is absolutely accepted in Catholic teaching, as is natural law, which is not simply the law of nature, & is indeed immutable since God cannot change. Indeed only the procreative & unitive ends to human sexual intercourse are accepted by orthodox Catholics (amongst others), who are of course religious and thus, with respect, I believe your views are out of sync with Catholicism. This is a Catholic channel after all!
As a same-sex attracted person, I was expecting to be offended. But I wasn't. I appreciate the thoughtfulness behind this video. Remember to pepper your videos with God's Word, as that will anchor it and be a beacon to your viewers.
That’s good and all all but I have one question: Is it objectively good to be attracted to person who has the same gender as you or rather, is it the will of God to be attracted to a person who is the same gender as you?
@@mannytps9986 our human nature is fallen, and every human being has to wrestle with that fact.
As Chesterton foresaw, we are living an age when sex is overrated. Every sin and flaw revolves around sex which seems to be the only thing worth living for or discussing, but heterosexual people, even catholic heterosexuals have to struggle with other sinful tendencies.
Are those tendencies the Will of God or the result of a flawed human Nature? And are those tendencies a curse or the opportunity to fight and deserve Salvation?
@@mannytps9986 How do you know what His will is on sexuality?
Homosexuality as we know it today wasn't practiced in stable relationships like it is today, so there's the intellect governing the passion.
All the bible talks about are incidents of rape, idolatry and a greek practice, where rich men had young boys (~12 y.o.) at home which in my opinion should be considered rape.
By that logic, how do you know that using a computer isn't sinful?
If you are referring to leviticus; turn back one page and it says you must not cut your hair.
@@clementphilippe6766 hey. First refer to the passage on cutting hair and let me see if you're in OR out of context. Next, assuming you're in context, that sounds like a ceremonial law, which was replaced with Jesus Laws of love (Paul on faith, not works of Moses). Yet, homosexual act was mentioned among other immoral sexual acts, as a member of the immoral sexual acts. Pretending I didn't say the aforementioned, cutting hair in the Bible doesn't cancel out the homosexual acts in the Bible. So saying, "here's something you don't know is here" doesn't invalidate another thing that we know is there.
@@clementphilippe6766 usinga computer is sinful if you're using it to break a commandment of the Trinity. So computer fraud is sinful. Computer porn is sinful. Computer love, preaching, charity etc are good.
Not everything done will will and intellect are good. Fraud demands will and intellect. Turtore demands will and intellect. Cyber bullying demands will and intellect. The real question is, does this act help in the flourishing of the human person? And if you say any sexual satisfaction helps in the human flourishing, also remember rapist rape for sexual satisfaction, whether it's just lustful passion, or will and intellect to plan the evil...
Excellent well thought out.I totally agree with all you say.
Yeah as someone with ADHD I can agree. I have a hard time focusing, but, I still do it.
A lot of people need more than “will” though because there is SCIENCE behind having ADHD. A lot of people can navigate this by going to therapy. Which, according to Brian, is a selfish act.
I am 45 and have been celibate all my life apart from literally a few hours , when I gave in. celibacy is my choice, it comes from self control and sacrificing the desires of self for the glory that is in Christ. Brian is being attacked by the reprobate, for all who live godly will suffer persecution; pray for this man.
Such a good video, very well said!
Bravo Brian for speaking the truth on this topic!
My head explodes whenever I hear a version of "Your 'truth'", "my 'truth'". Drives me *_insane._*
This is an awesome awesome video but the title feels a little clickbaity--the real thesis here in the necessity of governing our passions, including our sexual ones. Still great video tho
Pretty much all his video titles are like this... He has to attract viewers somehow.
These are the only acceptable form of clickbait
@@JodianWarrior By providing the really good and well argued content that he does?
@@nicksterwixter That's how he keeps viewers, not necessarily how he attracts them. But yes, sometimes his titles are maybe too click-baity. I don't mind, because I know the video will be good every time.
Govern your passions for bigotry! A great place to start!
I always thought it was weird when people said abstinence doesn't work. Actually it works 100% of the time. That's like saying condoms don't work cuz sometimes people don't wear them. What? How is that the condoms fault?
You grow what you feed.
(reply to the section about sex) You're misrepresenting sexual education. 'they teach you not to control your appetite?' Comprehensive sex education teaches students about consent, one of the most important parts of intercourse. This is LITERALLY teaching people to control their desires in a productive and safe manner. This model is, ironically given your characterization of the modern model of inquiry, *more* cognizant of the need for a flourishing community than the old, abstinence-only, PIV only sex education curriculum, which arbitrarily suppresses certain human desires and has historically enabled such things as spousal r*p3, only made illegal in many US States in the past couple decades.
Emphasis on consent in education is not a means to control sexual appetite. Instead it’s if you want to (Aka if you consent) you can have sex. That’s different then saying to yourself “I want to have sex with this person, but I do not think it will be good for me so I am choosing not to.” Versus “I want to have sex with this person, therefore I consent and it’s good so long as they consent too.” In the videos he’s making the argument that there’s a higher level than just 2 people making an agreement.
@@danielviets4427 Sex ed has never been about being the only moral guide one should consult. It's about making sure people understand what sex is, what its consequences (good and bad) are, and how to do it it the safest way possible if one does choose to take part. Brian, and yourself, are being dishonest about what sex ed is by saying it encourages people to be recklessly h0rny. It doesn't, that's hormones. You can refuse to consent for ANY reason, regardless of the combination of passion, will, and intellect you use to decide. Sex education is perfectly compatible with Brian's basic moral prescriptions, but because he's lying about what it is, it rhetorically seems like it's incompatible. By arbitrarily shunning sex ed like he does, you're both implicitly condoning the increase in sexual assaults and r@p3s that will occur due to lack of knowledge about consent and lack of awareness for minors, even the abuse which occurs within the Church's power structure.
@@danielviets4427 There isn't any inherent problem with arguing for specific moral standards over how promiscuous one should be. But if you dismiss methods of harm reduction that are proven to work, it's either because you don't care about those harms or you want them to happen. Or you're misinformed, that's always a possibility.
@@PopperOfCorn I see your point that the consent focused sex ed is very compatible with what Brian is saying. It actually brings the will into the subject
@@partydean17 Yeah there's a way forward for Brian here that builds on the current sociological consensus rather than contradicting it. I have a feeling the real reason he doesn't like comprehensive sex ed is because it teaches kids about more than just PIV sex, and educates them about other forms of intimacy as well as other sexualities.
Even given (I'm assuming, I could be wrong) his views on LGBTQ+ identities, I think it would be better to let the kids get educated about the facts and then tell them what's immoral afterwards. If he's confident that he's correct then he shouldn't have any problem with any facts about human behavior. If he has to rely on keeping kids hoodwinked about the existence of gay people or safe sex, it seems like there's something wrong.
On a related point, it's possible for sex ed to be somewhat 'propogandizing' in its apporach. In this case, however, it's an issue with the way sex ed is being done, not an issue with sex ed inherently. The solution in this case is to improve the program, not advocate for its removal.
This is a great video! Thanks! You're so wise! 😃
I am a Protestant and although I do not appreciate what you have to say about Protestants I love you man you make a lot of important videos that people really need to see God has plans for you
Very good point of view.
Holy crap, your ability to articulate your view is astounding…. WOW
Life is can be a profoundly long (and short) time on the scale of what we think and the iteration of ideas and the problem solving truth seeking process. We can make a lot of mistakes, that is not to say that we should not think about what we do, I overthink quite a bit, but this video puts this in perspective. I am always thinking about the direction of my life, and I have done mostly the approach in this video and still often have a million directions I want to run in to do good or I think would be the best, I fear I will not succeed in any of them. More questions come up as years go buy and I learn more with respect to those goals.
It seems, while my life has a somewhat discernible overall direction in the faith and toward the sciences/engineering/programming the same thing has resulted thus far.
The video title does not represent the video, and is wrong.
It's pretty hard to argue against this since you never clearly state what your stance on sexuality is. Only that giving in to desires is bad.
However, it is important to note that being homosexual isn't inherently bad, unlike the examples you gave e.g. eating unhealthily or staying home from school/work. And having homosexual sex isn't anymore "giving in to desire" than having heterosexual sex. This is to say that this argument isn't well used to support homophobia.
thanks thanks thanks Brian / keep up the good work / May God be Glorified ! ! !
I'm glad I found your channel. 🙌🏼
unfortunately, self regulation is not always easy, for example I have ADHD which is a common medical condition and one of the things I struggle with is moving from wanting want to do(sports and games) to what I should be studying
All good things in life will be hard, but we must persevere to strive for the habit, let's be strong, don't let this things bring us down and beat them! :)
No offence at all but that sounds like a perfectly normal human to me, nobody wants to work when there is so much fun stuff to do.
@@soulfuzz368 Well yeah unless you want to disappoint your ancestors and not achieve the ability to control your animal instincts and desires and do what is right
Straight, gay, married, single, chaste, promiscuous, masturbation, adultery, pornography etc etc.... the specificity does not matter that much: sex is always a challenge for the Christian because Christianity is - by definition - all about renunciation.
(Brian has hit the spot, as usual.)
Instead of nitpicking the modality of sex, we should focus on sexuality as whole. This helps us to be more compassionate with those who stumble, as we all have our own struggles in this area, without losing the perspective of what is expected from us all.
Well said. A very pastoral insight.
(reply to the first section) I think you're missing a critical component of the modern model of inquiry. Everyone is able to give their own perspective, but should also listen to the perspectives of others. This means that the modern model is less prone to the problems related to a single authority claiming to speak for a whole group, who can then speak over that group for their own personal gain. The additional collaborative dimension of the modern model allows for a more transparent dialogue to occur. However, one must 'read the comments' to see most of this dialogue occurring, so I wouldn't blame someone for not noticing that it's happening.
Addditionally, I think you're misrepresenting therapy to the point of strawmanning. Therapists ask you about yourself, but also help you develop ways of interacting with other people and the outside world more effectively. You ignore this aspect and paint therapy as an exercise in narcissism, which it is certainly not.
Shalom Brian. As a new year begins I would like to thank you for your work; it always helps me to clarify my thoughts. I would also like you to know that as a 65yr old cleaner in the UK [I'm sure I speak for many in similar reduced circumstances] that my failure to offer financial support is no indication of the depth of my gratitude.
I could not find this transcript on your website...
I'm so reminded by soren kierkegaard on truth within oneself 😊
Who you're sexually attracted to aint I choice my guy, you can choose not to act on it but to say gays having sex is somehow worsening your life or humanity is a purely religious standpoint
Assuming it doesn't is being willfully blind.
@@canonsprite You say that because you are speaking from ignorance.
@@mr.centrist5789 No. You only say that because i'm disagreeing with you, grow up. Your own ignorance is showing.
@@canonsprite ignorance of what? I only spoke the truth.
@@mr.centrist5789 Nah, I'm right. Stop watching porn.
Just so good!
So glad i found you. keep it up brother
If loving girls doesn't give me any satisfaction why should I force myself to love them?
You're conflating love and sex which is an error. Not all acts of love are sexual and not all sexual acts are loving, otherwise sexual abuse would be a misnomer. Therefore, you have to determine which sexual acts contain love.
@@BrianHoldsworth I never said anything about sex, I am not attracted to girls romantically nor physically so I am unable to love them even if I tried. Though guys make me feel complete and happy so whats the point in trying to change that?
@@BrianHoldsworth Loving women is not the same for A Gay man as a heterosexual man. If a woman falls in love with someone who is gay she must accept he is if gay not going to sleep with her or marry her....That is understood .
Ones Sexual Orientation emphatically is not a choice. TO THiNE SELF BE ALWAYS TRUE.
Orion....
I wish you well and every happiness.
I suppose the contrarian would say that impulse and passion ought to be differentiated between. Meaning, what distinguishes homosexual people from heterosexual people isn’t a matter of heterosexuals having greater willpower or discipline, but them simply lacking the impulse/inclination to have sex with the opposite sex and vice versa.
Generally speaking though, I totally agree with your critique on moral relativism and the lack of emphasis on seeking out objective morality in the modern world.
Yes, I would concur with that. I'm straight myself and agree with the general points made by Brian. Unrestrained sexuality is obviously problematic, however something balks in me when I hear other straight catholics maintaining that there is an equivalence between straight people exercising restraint and same sex attracted people doing so, A straight person has a reasonable expectation of relief from sexual desire through marriage for a reasonable part of their lives even if they must exercise that restraint for other periods but unless a gay person is called to Holy Orders ( which to use a phrase .. a man can endure any what if he has a sufficient why ) which gives a :practical every day' rather than theoretical reason for being chaste , they are out in the world without the safe harbours the rest of us can go to. I don't pretend to have the answers and homosexually presents many problem for Christian sexual teaching is but it does make me uneasy in passing judgement on my brother's without ever having to walk in their shoes myself. If I as a straight man without a call to holy orders was told I could never act sexualy ever, I'd say I be one very depressed man.🤔
@@adventureinallthings One solution of the problem is to stop presenting the fulfillment of sexual desire as a "must". Yes, homosexual people may not find sexual gratification, and it's hard, but that doesn't in any way remove value to their life. The value of a life the depends on virtue, not gratification.
Furthermore, we should also stop assuming that a homosexual person necessarily has to remain single and forget any degree of sexual gratification whatsoever. This is because a homosexual man CAN marry a woman. Nothing in the law of the Church forbids this. Of course the woman must know and accept the situation beforehand. Same if it's a lesbian woman with a straight man. Such marriages could be difficult, of course, but they can work. I saw one time on youtube a homosexual man who was married to a lesbian woman. They were happy, remained faithful to each other and grew old together. And they weren't even Catholic.
1. You don't need to distinguish between impulse and passion in order to make your point.
2. Your argument doesn't do what you think it does. What distinguishes me from someone prone to alcoholism is not that I have more willpower, but that I don't have the same passions as he.
3. I.e. just because straights aren't distinguished from gays by willpower, doesn't mean it's OK to act on homosexual passions.
@@vituzui9070 if we went to an average school full of teens and raging hormones and said hey guys and gals it’s been decided that this school is going to make students devote their life to virtue rather than going down the “normal “ path and expression of sexuality - of dating, marriage intimacy and to facilitate that we are going to remove from the literature films and so on all that are “romantic” so as not to stir your desires, as well as that being a dry life for the average person , I think that you would get riots. And I don’t mean because it’s mass enforcement which is obviously unethical, it’s just an analogy taking what you expect of the gay teen and asking it of the majority straight ones.
@@KingofEuropa07 there’s also the ethics to that because by saying it’s not ok to express gay sexuality in intimate relationships you are demanding a whole life without romantic companionship, sexual intimacy and I personally question the ethics of that for someone say like Graham norton , kd Lang, Elton John or others obviously different without choosing that, and obviously gay
Raging comments in 3.2.1...
I have questions and points, but I’m not raging.
@@kylethedalek more power to you!
Godbbless :) soon hopefully God's people will be taken soon blesz
Excellent!
There’s a few key problems in this video for me.
1. We already have internal governance of our sexuality. Most people that have fantasies that include legal or moral indiscretions don’t act on those fantasies.
2. Conflating same sex relations as indulgent or feeding of ones insatiable appetite, but not granting the same of heterosexual relationships is subjective and bigoted towards same sex relationships, you’re still working on the framework that straight=good/normal/natural and gay=indulgent/bad/deviant even though hundreds of mammalian and non mammalian animals practice gay sex (if you’re not doing this and I just got that from the title then correct me)
3. The logical conclusion of the argument that sex should be productive in a societal sense is that women should reproduce as much as possible. And if woman aren’t expected to reproduce as much as possible, what’s the problem with the minority of same sex relationships that do exist? If you DO think that women should value reproducing as much as possible there’s nothing I can say to argue with that other than: I don’t want to.
4. Abstinence education is still required in 37 states.
Thank you, hope you see this and respond
Did you come from Jimmy Snow's channel and reaction to this video? Your points are almost verbatim.
@@christophervigil4961 no I actually watched this one first 😂 but he did send me here
Come to Brazil, Brian
One of your better videos!
What’s the intro song?
Paul F Jernberg, introit: The Love of God
Here’s the link:
soundcloud.app.goo.gl/wfxQsLVPp5c38RUv6
Love this
I wish I saw this before started smoking
I wish I died of smoking before I saw this
@@tanneraltenkirk7262 hhhay!
I really like your videos. Thank you for making them.
Well said Brian
Not really.
At 57 I'm older than you. I am so happy understanding that the new wave generation, Millennials such as you, also will be able to teach us and reinforce what we've learned in the past. Thank you so much for your ministry. I posted your clip in my Facebook wall. God bless you
Good video Brian.
Ace Maria...⚜️🥀🙏
I love how philosophical and logic based your videos are. In regards to Glory and Shine, which beard balm is a good? It's hard for me to choose care products, without being able to smell them first haha.
Thank you for your video, Brian. I appreciate what you say.
I hope you're ready for the angry reactions.
I don't know if he actually presented a good or logical reasoning argument. Or if you already agreed with him before he started speaking
Define the time period of ancient and modern
I don't know how many books you read but I assume it is in the thousands per year
There are evil people that encourage others to the wrong things. An enemy of your soul is your enemy period.
If I can couch it in a basic way: the "enemy" (Satan) seeks to destroy and he uses people for his purpose. The enemy doesn't care about us; he hates God. God loves us, therefore the enemy uses us to hurt God.
You have to produce evidence that shows how something is wrong and why and also what defines "evil people". That's the problem with religious morality. It cannot do that because it is subjective. It is not grounded in facts of reality. It is a faith based belief.
@@tyrchtemph1881 Was that a comment for me, or for Michael Misquez?
@@debb3428 Michael Misquez
@Valentín Freymóðsson that sounds 😈 evil
A well argued session. As a Christian who is also a same-sex attracted man, I see the wisdom in what you’ve said. Regardless of sexual expression, we are called to act with love (agape) first and foremost. I have chosen to be celibate not because I oppose living monogamous same-sex relationships, rather because I am am wanting to focus all my being on being in God’s will - kenosis - emptying of the self.
Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.
can you clarify your thoughts on the attraction itself? Is it something someone is born with?
@kwm2000 Let me guess: you were sexually abused. There are plenty of gay people who weren't, and plenty of straight people who were.
@kwm2000 What kind of things, if I may ask? I don't think I had a traumatic childhood, so I don't know what's behind my same-sex attraction. I'm sure many straight people have had it a lot worse than me.
I agree that the "external" side of morality has been largely abandoned by us moderns. I think this is partly because of a failure of evangelization, and partly because the (global) diversity of views on truth has made substantial, widespread agreement seem hopeless.
Well done.
The modern psyche tends to be so entangled in itself and the ego's daily desires, that any definition of what is true and good is destructive to the self because it is necessarily self-giving and ego-killing. The irony remains that in chasing fleeting pleasure for ourselves, we rob the true joy of others...and we ourselves are too ashamed of our short-sighted actions that we cower away from stopping other people doing the same to us!
i think what makes people feel like this about sexual behavior is the idea that things like porn abuse are bieng avoided just for the sake of arbitrary tradition and nothing more
relativity and objectivity are not contradictory. Something can be objective and relative like time or distance. Goodness is like that.
Axiomatic though it were, some people do like things explained softly and obliquely. Nice Beard.
Such a well constructed video. Thank you for this.
I thought this was the general consensus so im quite shocked to see the comments so surprised by this kind of a perspective.
But also we should consede that it is part of human nature to do thinks that are enjoyable and lustful, and i do not see a problem with that if enjoyed in moderation of course.
Sexuality is a choice
Is it?? Do you remember growing up deciding if you found males or females attractive?? I don’t. I just remember as some point as a kid thinking girls looked cute. Explain that professor
Is the motivation of shame a separate question? Sexuality has the potential to allow an individual to experience shame at deep levels, and to pair that shame with an orgasm. It seems to me that the unconscious decision being made is to "seal in" the shame by hard wiring the body to respond with reward. Shame is by it's nature "my truth". Easy to see how that comes to be a world view.
I’m a bit depressed by reading that
When did you choose to be straight?
As a statistician, it makes no sense as to why other scientists choose the second approach of subjectivism. We know there are objective things or else there wouldn't be estimates. Historically, scientists use to be good philosophers because of the obvious overlap. Not anymore.
Absolutely compelling and succinct. Will be referring folks to this video when the topic arises. Well done Brian.
Brian, I'm not sure if you realize this: it's all about me and how many drugs I have to take and all that I covet! It's not about you! Also, there's the fact that the world revolves around my love for MTV! All jokes aside, you are on the mark, here. Humanity matters much more than age between a man and woman, for example....no judgement on my part... you hooked me, and obviously this is right on point with truth about what is going on with our current times in the church.
It's good to see you taking a calm approach to this, and I'll try my best with my rebuttal.
Controlling the whims of eating is to stop you from getting fat, early onset cardiac arrest or diabetes type two, just to name a few. There is no negatives to having a fluid sexuality.
Controlling the whims of smoking is to stop you from getting lung cancer, and because it can burn a hole in your wallet. There is no negative to switching up your sexual partner.
Fact is - your comparison here is void. We also have whims to breath, we don't choose to, it just happens. But I hope you aren't going to suggest we stop that as well.
It's also key to see that the CDC, American Phycological Association and Imperial College London (among other well respected, peer reviewed scientific journals and groups) have all stated that trying to change sexuality is harmful, and doesn't work, and should be stopped immediately.
Have you considered that there might be spiritual consequences?
@@kam3kaz56 Yes, and I have concluded there won’t be any spiritual consequences because God does not exist.
Wait... is he speaking for or against this?
@@elspethsilverstar6136 oh man... alright
Wasn't it obvious?
I know this is completely off topic but I couldn’t help but notice that Brian has gorgeous hair. 🙂.
We need more people like you in the comments.