I think a reason that people in Western Societies attack Christianity is that to some degree it represented traditional authority within society rather than just amongst believers. In England the Church of England is the established church and sixty years ago the views of the Church of England would have been very much reflected in the law of the country. They partly abdicated from that position and partly were pushed out as the number of adherents fell. Similarly I suspect in the US despite the separation of Church and State the law would have been based on Christian Morality. To attack Christianity is to attack the establishment / traditional society to attack other faiths does not have the same effect.
Satan is like a man who is obsessed with the ex he can no longer have, and then he recruits a bunch of people to join in on his ex-bashing, and they don't even know why.
yeah, but Jesus Christ said in a revelation (vision)... i don't remember well which saint it was, that if the devil repented for what he did, God would forgive him, but the sad thing is that he won't
Hmmm, maybe a culture that is heavily oppressive towards certain groups would have people who turn against it and KNOW WHY. God lovers love their woman enslavement. Islamic worshippers do it the best. In gods kingdom you are in chains, not freed.
I'm currently still a metalhead (and yes, a fan of Opeth's lol...) but there is nothing but good point after good point after good point here. Excellent content. Very well articulated, ripe thoughts.
Try listening to some beautiful polyphony like Palestrina's "Missa Papae Marcelli" and see how it makes you feel. A good history of the trajectory of modern music and also on how music affects the soul is E Michael Jones, Dionisos Rising: Cultural Revolution Out of the Spirit of Music, at culturewars.com or discussed in youtube talks and interviews.
Opeth are talented musicians. They arent really even the type of band to do all the try hard stuff like in most death metal and they fall into the prog subsect of the genre especially nowadays. Even the gutteral vocals are used like salt to add texture to the other aspects of the music, unlike most death metal where it really is just overused and generic
@@lunalancer5971 there is good metal (I'm getting into the very anthemic power metal), but death metal amd whateber stiff that tries to be "oh so scary and dakgerous" is so cringey. I can't listen to it or take it seriously.
"A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see one who is sane, they will point to him and say 'you are mad, for you are not like us.'" - St. Anthony the Great
@@introscapes9418 I’d say materialism is probably one of the bigger fundamental issues in Western culture today. It underlies the perverse morality of things like Marxism, Utilitarianism, consumerism, Neoliberalism, Modernism and Post-Modernism.
I slightly disagree with metal being a major problem, it's normally just people expressing anger or skepticism and I think everyone has been there. If you really want to see satanism in action with real intent to harm look at pop music, modern films, and television shows, that movie cuties is a good example and some of these modern pop songs are 10 times more degenerate than black with which is normally hyperbole, keep in mind these songs are played everywhere.
@@roisinpatriciagaffney4087 yeah something to remember the devil was once an angel he won't appear as an ugly demonic beast, he will be beautiful. That's something Dave Mustaine from megadeth said.
@@countlessbathory1485 satan is a fallen angel. He would not serve God. He may tempt with superfically beautiful things, but always remember he is deceitful and he is also the father of lies. All of his temptations are attractive to us; they wouldn't tempt us otherwise Pax Christi. ☘
Which is an interpretation consistent with what we know about sin and the devil. Few sins, if any, are stand-alone; they are perversions. The devil knows he can't rival God's omnipotence, which is how he created all things, and resorts to warping what beautiful things God has already established into inferior, deracinated forms, after which he sells them off as new and superior.
The expressed mode of operation in Christianity is loving union in Christ and His body. Wokeness, however, is the antithesis; tribal division borne of hate.
This video is very timely. I loved Opeth in high school . I had a moment in late college where I started noticing the crowd at all the concerts were 30 - 40 somethings trying to act 18. Now when I try to listen to old stuff like In Flames , Static -X etc. I just cringe. Thanks for the video, it articulated well something I have thought for a long time.
So what you're saying is that you used to like Opeth, but then you discovered that old people like them too, so now you don't like them anymore, hence it is timely to label them Satanists?
I agree with you. It’s all I see at metal shows or in a lot of alt scenes rly. It doesnt change how i feel about the artists but i can definitely see when someone is just trying hard to stay an “angry teenager” like MM for example.
As I was going through RCIA and still skeptical about the Catholic Church, I thought life would become terribly boring. Haha! Life in Christ is wonderfully challenging and the martyrs are incredibly metal.
Try Biblical Christianity. Catholicism is not Biblical in any way. Check put Pastor Charles Stanley Sermons. He's the closest to a Biblical Pastor I can think of. He's like an old grandfather giving good, Biblical advice and he always says "what does the Bible have to say about this..."
@@christinaFaith84 the Holy Roman Catholic Church was instituted by Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. There is no other. He is the Bridegroom and we are the Bride.
One of the very interesting things about Satanism is how many Satanists do not believe that Satan actually exists. As you have said, it is only a mockery of true religion, a lie passed off as truth, darkness passed off as light, foolishness passed off as wisdom. The irony is that Catholics have the true conception of Satan while Satanists have the false one. While God is "I AM", Satan is "I AM NOT", or at least would prefer his followers to so believe (this is why most "Satanists" are "atheists"). The reality is that if Satan exists, then God also exists (and created Satan), and if God exists then we ought to worship God rather than Satan. In the same way if sin exists, it only exists because righteousness exists. If lawlessness exists, it also owes its existence to divine Law. If evil exists, it is only as a result of good also existing. If rebeliousness exists, it implies the existence of legitimate authority. So it turns out that the existence of evil is counterintuitively one of the most compelling arguments for not only the existence of God, but also for His divine authority and legitimacy, as well as His mercy and love. If "might makes right", then we all ought to be obedient to God who is the Almighty. "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." -Charles Pierre Baudelaire Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline. Matthew 25:41 Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar and the father of lies. 2 Corinthians 11:14 Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 2 Peter 2:17-19 These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. With lofty but empty words, they appeal to the sensual passions of the flesh and entice those who are just escaping from others who live in error. They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves to depravity. For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. 1 John 3:8 The one who practices sin is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the very start. This is why the Son of God was revealed, to destroy the works of the devil. James 2:19 Do you believe that there is only one God? Good! The demons also believe--and tremble with fear. Revelation 20:10 Then the Devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. All that being said however, our focus should be on the good, true, and beautiful, since the goal of evil and sin is to distract you from these things. Philippians 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable-if anything is excellent or praiseworthy-think on these things. Proverbs 17:24 An intelligent person aims at wise action, but a fool starts off in many directions.
There ARE theistic Satanists that genuinely believe in and honor Satan as a God but they seem to be a lot less popular for whatever reason. I'd have more respect for Satanists if they actually believed in it and weren't just edgy atheists.
I don't know about Canada, but in France it is not tolerated that satanists desecrate a church or the eucharist. I have never met a single satanist adult, but I'm sure they must exist. Most satanist I've encountered were during my adolescence, and all of which left that movement as adults, and now laugh about it. But I think satanism, when it's a fad for adolescents speaks to something else that a lot of us go through. It caters to a certain angst: of growing up, of truly realizing our mortality and that of those we love, of finding a sens of belonging... This sort of morbid fascination can also be found with vampires (though not the ones that sparkle in the sunlight). Thus, I believe it's important to make a distinction between the adolescent "satanist", for whom this will just be a fad, to those who persue this belief as adults.
When I think of Satanism I always think of those edgy atheist groups in the states. They engage in a lot of political stuff like trying to get abortion covered as a religious right to circumvent prolife/anti-choice laws on a state level. I forget which one of them put a statue of Satan outside a government building that had xtian monuments to support separation of church and state, free artistic expression and/or whine about the existence of the Christian monuments there. I'm all for birth control and abortion rights but I just find that kind of Satanist extremely cringey. Especially the trying to use religious mandates for birth control or other political issues when they are openly atheist. You could say religions can be non-theistic like some forms of Buddhism but I think a theistic belief separates a religion from other types of organizations and belief systems.
@@humanbean8590 I would tend to agree with most of what you have stated. Stating one has a religion - even satanist - to then invoque atheism to push a political or social agenda is just non-sensical. I'm all for separation of state and religion, but find it utterly ridiculous and contradicting to put up the statue of a demon, or pagan "god" in order to promote this separation. This type of satanist movement seems specific to the US and Canada, perhaps. In France at least, satanists desecrate graveyards and catholic churches, and, as horrible as it might be, it ends there mostly. They don't have a political agenda, and they don't demand rights. Mostly the satanists I've encountered in France, are young people with angst and it's their way of expressing it. Perhaps in the future, this will be another "joyous" importation France can look forward to...?
Opeth explores a certain range of human emotions and often applies dark themes to build a certain atmosphere, but I think you're being very superficial to judge them and their listeners by this facade. In the end, the band members are musicians, artists, husbands, fathers, friends and human beings; certainly not satanists. I'd argue that examining the darker aspects of our nature through art makes us mature, not naive. It helps us develop tools to recognize and deal with negative emotions when they arise, rather than being taken by surprise and acting on instinct.
Agree. Opeth has genuine artistic merit and as far as I know they are simply atheists not Satanists. He could have used actual OTT Satanist bands as an example. The cringier the better. Deicide, Dissection etc. Could have made fun of Glen Benton's forehead inverted cross and genuinely silly Satanic bands and aesthetics that just fail. Don't use Ghost because they actually do a good job making the dark Pope aesthetic work.
@@humanbean8590 Nah. That would be too easy to pick an extreme. His argument is stronger because he focused on a group that has merit. That dram aesthetic is the caricature of the evil rebel, no matter how technically proficient the artist is.
I’m sorry but if opeths music summarizes your negative feelings then you must not be human. What feelings can that garbage arouse in you? Or relate to? Regardless of whether opeth is a “satanic band,” it doesn’t mean it’s not total rubbish. I often debate my friends on whether pop music is an actually valid form of music. The same goes for metal. If you actually understand theory and notation you can’t like metal…or any other song that uses four repeated chords for that matter.
@@sapereaude6339 Your name suggests you think of yourself as enlightened, yet you speak like a bigot. Watch this classical composer break down and appreciate a song by Opeth: ua-cam.com/video/Iujfijfnej4/v-deo.html
@@sapereaude6339 This is one of the most pig ignorant things I've seen on Brian's channel. You don't know enough about what you're criticizing if you're just reducing a large body of work to a single four cord structure. Pop and Metal alike.
It is like the "outlaw biker" look you see in some motorcyclists. They want to be feared, to be seen as dangerous. They want to be seen as nonconformists, although they conform to their own style (leather jackets, bandannas, facial hair, etc.).
I will have to note tho, a leather jacket while riding a motorcycle isn't really conforming to the stereotypical "outlaw biker" look, but more so for safety~ like I've seen people riding motorcycles in t-shirts and singlets, and the look of horror that it garners on people's faces including biker gangs is understandable. But other than that I agree with your point :)
Time to end affiliation with the Vatican II Novus Ordo "counter-church" (Archbishop Vigano's term). Vatican II itself should be "discarded and forgotten" (Vigano). Not only communion in the hand but a large number of sacrileges are avoided by simply adhering to traditional Catholicism.
So this is my testimony about getting back into the church after 10 years of being out of it. For awhile I was an atheist and then an agnostic, however, God delivered me out of a difficult and strange period of my life that left me without doubt of His existence and goodness. It's a bit of a long read, so bear with me. A couple weeks into February of 2018 I experienced some dreams of a strange nature during a time where I was isolated, depressed, and desperate. I've dealt with anxiety and depression for along time and I was at the end of my rope. I had considered seriously commiting suicide two years ago and when the depression hit this time I couldn't take it anymore. I was searching desperately for something that would allow me to leave the situation I was in. I was addicted to gaming and was very isolated. I also fell heavily into a series of books I was re-reading at the time that I had a great obsession with, The Dark Tower series by Stephen King. A few months into a reread of this series I had a dreams in February 2018 one of which I think was prophetic, having to do with seeing a woman and man in the dream that I later saw the next day while walking and while watching TV. This was a man and woman that I hadn't met or seen before.There were also aspects of the dreams (which I can't easily get into because it's difficult to explain due to the content) that led me to believe that The Dark Tower series having to do with parallel universes was real. I became convinced that there was a world parallel to ours, like the books, that I could gain access to if I used certain objects that I had in my possession . After weird events also began occuring in my home, with my television, and with me, I told my parents about all of it. They were adamant that what I was experiencing was demonic deception and that I should cease reading these books and give myself over to God. Being stubborn and delusional I decided to continue in what I thought was a great discovery and a way out of my situation. Events transpired over the next few days that left me in a state of confusion and despair. My father also ended up in the hospital that week. It wasn't until I began to cry out to Jesus that things began to change. I began to hear from God during this time. I felt like I should rid myself of the books as well as the stuff I had gathered connected to them. I eventually ended up getting rid of all the books and objects connected to them, as well as a lot of other stuff including my games. We were doing some work in my room at the time so luckily I had something to help keep my mind off what had been happening as well as grow in the word from listening to 107.9 on my radio. When we finally returned to church a couple weeks later the sermon and series was about the book of Daniel, some of which has to do with prophetic dreams and visions among other things. I know now that this wasn't a coincidence. Once I started getting involved in the church again and reading the Bible, I got baptised on my birthday. I found out that these things really aren't as uncommon or unbelievable as they seem. My mens bible study at the time had members that had experienced supernatural and amazing things as well. Later on that year I witnessed other miracles first-hand within the young adult group I was in. I know this isn't going to sound credible if you aren't a Christian. Back when I didn't believe, these stories didn't seem compelling or true to me. However I can tell you that if you reach out to God wholeheartedly he will reveal himself to you. I'd like to ask that if you're going through something right now, some kind of challenge or difficulty that you reach out to God and ask him to help you. Sometimes it may not seem like anything is happening, but if you're willing to hold on and push through you can see him move in your situation in miraculous ways. Here's more about the Gospel here: www.tvcresources.net/resource-library/articles/the-gospel-of-jesus-christ If any of you would like to receive or feel led to receive Jesus Christ as your saviour pray this and believe it with all your heart. ❤️ 🙏 Dear God, I know that I am a sinner and there is nothing that I can do to save myself. I confess my complete helplessness to forgive my own sin or to work my way to heaven. At this moment I trust Christ alone as the One who bore my sin when He died on the cross. I believe that He did all that will ever be necessary for me to stand in your holy presence. I thank you that Christ was raised from the dead as a guarantee of my own resurrection. As best as I can, I now transfer my trust to Him. I am grateful that He has promised to receive me despite my many sins and failures. Father, I take you at your word. I thank you that I can face death now that you are my Savior. Thank you for the assurance that you will walk with me through the deep valley. Thank you for hearing this prayer. In Jesus’ Name. Amen. Good luck and may God bless you! And remember satan is a spirit of fear, a lying demon, and a child abusing loser who is going to hell. He is referred to in the Bible as the spirit of the antichrist. He is also a false prophet who can never be trusted. He can pretend to be the Holy Spirit and try to trick you. He is a coward and a traitor. So look to God and not evil. Listen to God's voice and not the voice of the enemy.
Very inspiring, but the Bible and one's perceived personal relation to Jesus isn't enough. We need the Church Christ founded, it's sacraments, its authoritative teaching and correct interpretation of the Bible. This is to be found in Traditional Catholicism (as opposed to the visible church you see headed by Francis the Apostate). The Bible itself proves the teachings of the Catholic Church: docs.google.com/file/d/0B43z_Az4kEXdTWM4ZmVnd2JUZzA/edit
You should have listened to the lyrics of the music instead of only focusing on the aesthetic. Much of the dark/heavy music coming out of the 70s and being commercialized in the 80s had lyrical content that dealt with the horrors of war, and that genre is a direct result of the impact that Vietnam had on young people who saw their older brother getting shipped off to what can be described as hell on earth.
I used to be really into Opeth. I wouldn't characterise them as satanic. A lot of the Scandinavian bands that were heavily into Satanism early on, moved on from that and became some sort of weird naturalists, neo paganists or atheists. I think there's more to metal than than Satanism. It also appears in beautiful music such as in Lizt and Berlioz. Extreme metal is more a sublimation of ugliness. In that sense it's really aesthetically rewarding.
What exactly appears in Liszt? Metal? Maybe contemporary classical foreshadowing but not a subjection to “ugliness.” Which I am glad that you admit yourself that that is what it is. “Sublimation of ugliness.” It sounds like you’ve watched videos on similarities between metal and classics. Anyone that knows music knows that Liszt never sublimated to ugliness.
@@sapereaude6339 I meant to say that the diabolic appears in beautiful music such as Liszt and Berlioz... Tartini. I didn't really care to make a connection between musical elements in classical and metal. Did I say that Liszt was sublimating to ugliness? Not really... that was a commentary solely on extreme metal and the aesthetic experience derived from listening to it. I really like bands that started as black metal and ended up doing experimental stuff (Green Carnation, In the Woods, Borknagar). Wouldn't you say that Liszt was more willing than other composer of his time to use dissonance? Anyway, should've worded my original comment better. Thanks for engaging!
Brian... where have you been all my life? If the majority of Catholics were like you, everyone would be flocking back to the church! I just can't tell you enough, how much I'm enjoying all your videos. Thank you and keep up the amazing work of God!
Great video! I never liked Opeth but a goth band I loved and still do is Type O Negative. The lead singer, Peter Steele had a deep reversion to his Catholic faith right before his passing in 09. His later songs reflect this. Interesting. Pray for his soul.
Big fan of Peter Steele. He was certainly a troubled soul. Many people are like him because of the inconsistencies, and hypocrisy practiced by people in the name of the church.
I've heard of Type O Negative, but I didn't know that story about the lead singer. Most likely, it was because the person who told me about the band was agnostic about Faith in general.
Bruh the ending was such a good fit! It truly made me see some of the amazing and powerful roles Christians play! Don’t even get me started on exorcism, God has given us so much power in this world!
I like Jonathan Pageau's video on 666. Despite its role in the Revelation, its essence is completely unrelated to Satan, making all these edgy folks who use the number look extra kickflip to the moon silly.
Better than 30 years ago, I heard Satanism summed up as "really bad Catholicism" Bad in this case can mean shallow, pathetic, derivative, automatic naysaying, etc...
This was such a great video. I was for many years in punk rock bands but I always felt like being Catholic was the most punk rock ant-establishment thing I could be. I always chuckled when my friends back then would make fun of Christians and conservatives but then vote for corporate politicians for example. I would always think like “ I thought you were rock & roll or punk rock or metal but you’re doing the most “establishment” thing you could possibly do!” This video really hit home with me! Thanks for making it! DEUS VULT!
Its not about being tough or scary, its just dark music that tells stories of dark fantasy/horror. What's the difference from a heavy track by Opeth and an H.P Lovecraft short? It is just fantasy art and nothing more.. For a lot of people this music is a sort of escapism just like reading Lord of the Rings or playing DnD. We are just nerds who wanna hear cool heavy sountracks of dark magic and the medieval world (the medieval world was not all love and light) as well as the light and righteousness of our history. It is not as far fetched as you are making it out to be. I like listening to the most godly sounding metal bands Blind Guardian, Manowar, Saxon, Manilla Road etc.. But just like black or death metal It is all just music for dorks who love high fantasy and horror. There is no political or religious message in a band like Opeth. They are nothing more than a gothic form of progressive rock. The bigger issue is the popular music and how it effects our youth. I once walked by a children's birthday party where kids where dancing and singing along to Lil Wayne's Lick it Like a Lollipop.. This is far more dangerous because of how accessible it is to the masses. There are absurd messages within pop music lyrics today which I believe to be a strategic way of breaking down of the family and western tradition.
Hebrews 2:14-18 New International Version 14 Since the children have flesh and blood,(A) he MERCY too shared in their humanity(B) so that by his death he might break the power(C) of him who holds the power of death-that is, the devil(D)- 15 and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear(E) of death. 16 For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham’s descendants.(F) 17 For this reason he had to be made like them,[a](G) fully human in every way, in order that he might become a merciful(H) and faithful high priest(I) in service to God,(J) and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people.(K) 18 Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.(L)
Opeth’s newer music is actually not that heavy. It’s actually kinda beautiful. No screaming vocals, lots of melody and 70s prog influences. Musically it’s very interesting.
There was this Swedish black metal band called Reverorum ib Malacht that studied Catholic theology so they could have more efficient blasphemy. Eventually they converted to Catholicism!
I think you don’t actually understand satanism you should do more research into it before making a video on it. If satanism was what you were describing it as then yeah it would be ludicrous
I'm not going to be quick with my assessment because I want to be fair, and I'm not a Satanist so I don't really have a horse in this race, but do you have any sources to reinforce these claims? I've known quite a few Satanists and while I did not find their movement compelling enough to join, I can say that little of this video speaks to why they do what they do or act as they act, at least in my experience.
Firstly, thanks for making this I needed to hear it right now. I would like to differentiate between an OPENLY satirical group and other types of dark or satanic metal. I think Ghost (forgot the guys name) would agree with the thrust of this video essay. 4:10 Spot on HOWEVER you really really as a Catholic are remiss to not mention Tolkien here. His entire work is grounded upon the idea of a wholly good and divine creator God vs an evil offshoot which has a total lack of ability to create ex nihilo and therefore is reduced to twisting/perverting the essences of already existant beings and institutions.
You have a unique way of communicating truth, history, common modern misconceptions regarding so many issues facing not only Catholics but believers of Christ throughout Christendom. Thank you.
I'm not even religious, but I really like your videos and your take on things. This one was especially excellent! I used to be into this kind of dark satanic music too, and now I just find it laughable. PS: It was funny how you visibly had a hard time keeping a straight face during the video 👍
Very often beauty leads people into the truth of the (traditional) Catholic Church. Listen to this and see how it makes you feel: ua-cam.com/video/BRfF7W4El60/v-deo.html Then look at one of the 4 gospels and ask yourself if someone could have made it all up. Praying for enlightenment, guidance, and strength helps greatly too.
I understand the point that you were making at 3:36 regarding mythological/pagan gods, however, I think referring to yourself as an “atheist” with respect to said gods is a misnomer. One can’t be an atheist, at all, if they believe in God, or some other deity. Non-believers commonly say that Christians are atheists when it comes to their denial of the multitude of gods that they reject, but this is a fallacious argument. William Lane Craig elucidates the problem with this in the following clip: *Aren’t We All Atheists?:* ua-cam.com/video/03pyLpdbALQ/v-deo.html
I agree. It's literally incorrect. Every Christian is a monotheist. It's a central tenet of the religion. Muslims sometimes call Christians polytheists as a slur because of the xtian concept of the Trinity (technically this would be tritheism lol). I hate the ignorance in this society of extremely basic theological terms. I'm not saying label every thing and muh helicopter gender is valid but we shouldn't throw out basic theology because it helps us understand ideas that are bigger than human experience and can be hard to conceptualize. A lot of angry edgy atheist teens are actually misotheists because they believe in God and hate him and ancient Jews were henotheists (acknowledge the existence of other Gods but worship only one). An atheist by definition does not believe in the concept of deities Themselves. So you cannot be a Christian and "atheist" about polytheistic Gods.
I'm going to have to wholeheartedly disagree about Opeth. I'm biassed, of course, because they've been one of my favorite bands since I was in middle school but I've never thought of them as a chiefly Satanic band, and as far as metal bands go, they've never tried to sound heavy and dark for their own sake. You may think Michael's Cookie Monster vocals sounded silly, but that doesn't mean there isn't beauty in what Opeth was doing. Unlike a lot of metal, Opeth mixes really dark sections with clean melodic parts, and in my opinion, the darkness only makes the beauty shine more. You can't listen to a song like The Moor, and think that they're going for "dark and scary," and nothing more. Even a song like Demon of the Fall, which starts of really dark and brutal, has one of the most memorable, emotional (musically) endings of any song I can think of. I can think of a few black metal bands that live up to your characterization, but not Opeth.
I totally agree. It'd be much better to go for genuinely Satanic bands like Dissection and analyse and counter it and the cringiest among them like the guy from Deicide who branded an inverted cross on his forehead.
I got the same reaction from my kids when they heard me listening to Soul Fly. They couldn't understand why the singer was angry. I still like Soul Fly, but I find myself really uninterested in much of the music I once thought was so great. It's just too nihilistic and empty. Some of it, I admit, still has a great sound to me, but alas most of it just doesn't have the alluring sound and lyrics I once thought it did. Call it a maturity in faith, I guess. An odd twist of fate I didn't expect in my youth, but one I am now glad the Lord graced me with.
Like their song "back to the primitive" where they want to be tribesmen to avoid rules and mores and politics. Primitive tribal life has even more rules than modern society! What they want is to be preppers.
@@rosyclown when my kids started repeating the lyrics to "Boom" and having a laugh at how angry Max Cavalera sounded was the moment that gave me pause.
Brian, Spot on again in this video. I'm praying that your viewers will grow in the millions.. I certainly will share your videos with others & encourage them to do the same. God bless you and keep you always.✝️
I agree the discussion of music and its effects on people, particularly teenagers, is an interesting and important conversion. I was never into Metal, but did enjoy goth bands like the Cure. It was theraputic for me and for many teens. I'm 47 now. I understand that moment of feeling silly listening to something you used to like. Where to draw the line for when music goes from being a theraputic release to being a harmful practice is a very good conversation to have. This video is fine; I think maybe if you choose a more popular style of music such as rap, especially gangsta rap, the converstation will indeed get quite interesting. I personally cannot stand gangsta rap, but my daughter likes it. We argue about it (intelligently, I hope) all the time. I like Dave Matthews Band, too, but many of his songs are about smoking weed. Does that make me a hypocrite? That would be a great conversation to have. I do think that music can be an cathartic outlet...the Greeks knew this, too. Greek drama is all about the community living vicariously through the protagonist, the tragic hero. The community can experience what the hero experiences without actually being a hero. I can listen to DMB's song "Jimi Thing" and enjoy the relaxation of smoking weed without actually doing it. As an adult, I know the difference. Two observations: 1) Not sure why you slip in a jab ( "and atheists") at 4:07. This video has nothing to do with atheists. I am a skeptical Catholic, heading towards lapsed. I have been reading all sorts of religious blogs and debates over the past 4 years, on every topic imaginable, and none of it is related to this topic of satanism. I don't have any particular objections to this video other than #2 below, but please don't conflate atheists and satanists. 2) A little after the 9:00 minute mark you bring in the Roman Empire. I think your analysis of the relationship between Christianity and the Roman empire is a bit simplistic. Recent scholarship by many, including Bart Ehrman and Candida Moss, has shown the persecution of Christians that you mention to have been sporadic and exaggerated. Rome largely left the Christians alone, as is shown in Ehrman's book "The Triumph of Christianity" and Candida Moss' book "The Myth of Persecution." From Amazon: *Moss, however, exposes that the “Age of Martyrs” is a fiction-there was no sustained 300-year-long effort by the Romans to persecute Christians. Instead, these stories were pious exaggerations; highly stylized rewritings of Jewish, Greek, and Roman noble death traditions; and even forgeries designed to marginalize heretics, inspire the faithful, and fund churches.* www.amazon.com/Myth-Persecution-Christians-Invented-Martyrdom/dp/0062104551 So...This idea of constant horrendous persecution is a myth. The persecutions of Nero and Diocletian were, no doubt, particularly nasty. But Christians were not "relentlessly persecuted" at every opportunity as you stated, and the Romans had zero intentions of stamping out Christianity. The Romans actually did not care much about Christianity at all. They wanted good order, taxes to be paid, and the state gods to be honored. They allowed quite a bit of latitude in worship of any other gods. So I think it is important to get accurate historical context here. As for the 4th Century, the Church "prevailed" against the Roman Empire by adopting the structures of the Roman Empire, obtaining Imperial tax exemptions, and installing Bishops who functioned essentially as Roman magistrates. This is an incredibly complicated topic, but the 4th Century essentially saw the uneasy merger of Church and State and laid the groundwork for the divine right of kings. The Church acquired vast amounts of wealth during this period. Bishops fought each other tooth and nail over the proper understanding of the Trinity. Those accepting the "proper" understanding of the Trinity (the interpretation favored by the emperor) saw themselves with greater power, prestige and access to imperial wealth, society and power. The losers, branded heretics, lost their Churches and many were exiled. It was an ugly business. The 4th century was when the "institutional church" was born, and all the problems with clericalism began. Really and truly, the sex abuse scandal (and many other abuses) can be traced all the way back to the 4th century. I think many conservatives would actually agree. Please check out "The Closing of the Western Mind" by Charles Freeman for a very detailed examination of Church history during the first four centuries.
The reason he conflates atheists and Satanists is not to be closeminded and imply they are one in the same, as far as I can tell. It's because all the most well known Satanist groups and figures in the world are actually atheist groups. They believe in Satan as a symbol of rebellion but not as a genuine thing. Anton Lavey for example and his church were all atheist. There is such thing as a theistic Satanist but it's much rarer. I don't know how any orgs with any type of scale while more popular atheistic ones are involved in political protests and stuff so there's enough of them to do that.
I'm a former Satanist, and a big metal fan. But ive come to Christ with the last 2 months. I started attending Liturgy, reading my Bible, and praying daily. I also got rid of my blasphemous shirts, and im losing interest in alot of metal (the stuff against God. But i still like stuff thats more creative). Looking back, its so obvious to see how hollow and lacking Atheism, Satanism, and Paganism all are in theology. The story of Christ truly is the greatest story everytold. And its a story we can all be taking a part in everyday. Hopefully people like me can make this change in their lives as well. I used to think the weak thing was to give in and become a Christian. Now I know weakness is rejecting his goodness and giving in to the easy pleasures of society.
Dear Turncoat Paladin(s), Devout Christians have been making dark and heavy music from Bach through to Lamb of God. Jesus loves death metal musicians as much as he loves you. I respectfully assert that you have traded one form of prejudice for another. May God walk with you; and Light your Way with Djent.
Brian, would you please start uploading your content to LBRY? I would prefer to follow you there as opposed to UA-cam. Thank you and keep up the good work!
I was a Traditional Satanist for about 7.5 years. Traditional Satanism differs a bit from the Modern you were speaking on. However,There were some key points you made that were right on the money. A lot of Satanism is a hodgepodge of many different belief systems showcasing either Satan as the Ultimate deity or “ One’s Self” as it’s own God. There was a lot of Power in the faith (I believed it to be ) providing a very seductive atmosphere that completely fell apart after a few anomalies that happened to me.
Interestingly enough, many people that are “satanic” real or for show have a false sense that Satan will gift them an eternal party will all their friends upon going to hell . These people do not realize that Satan is the prince of lies , there is no eternal party of drinking and wild sex, having fun with their friends. Hell is a total absence of God which is light. So being in an eternal black hole by yourself ???
1 Corinthians 14:6 Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?
I think Opeth is more so mythical nonsense and poetic nonsense than it is satanic (maybe besides orchid) the lyricist Mikael Akerfeldt says he is an atheist and orchid is supposed to be occultish, but he mostly just came up with lyrical nonsense that sounded mystic or poetic to him at the time its besides the point. I do agree with the video :)
Metal isn’t inherently evil. It’s like money. It can be used for good or evil. Metal is one of the most talented genres to play & hardest to learn. Metal vocals are just diaphragm control & throat inflections. It’s just a noise. We can’t say it sounds “demonic” or not. There are several different of styles & genres within Metal. Metal can be absolutely beautiful & theatrical & talented. Cardi B is far more satanic than Behemoth because at least you know what you’re getting with Nergal & co. Cardi B & Nicki Minaj are far more dangerous. Metal : Blasphemy, occult aesthetics. Sure, a grave matter on the part of the composer, but rap induces that prideful, mammon worshipping sexual & gangster drugs & murder lifestyle. Satanic Metal is at least honest. There is a ministry opportunity in Metal. Just because it’s intense doesn’t mean it has to be “unnatural”. It’s a man-made music genre. It’s not a matter of natural or disordered. That’s when it becomes pharisaic legalism & one could go insane trying to decide what’s right & wrong. Metal can be spiritual warfare music & reach an audience that would otherwise never hear the Gospel. Metal heads will listen to whatever sounds good, even if it’s Christian & they are not. The Christian message gets embedded into their spirit & subconscious & can produce fruit in their lives later & induce theological research to learn what the lyrical themes mean, leading them to the truth. I was a HIM (His Infernal Majesty) fan & Ville Valo’s lyrics made me research Christianity. My FSSP Priest said they were satanic based on what I told him of the lyrics, I felt the Apostolic authority in his words & no longer listen to them. Metal can be theatrical & cinematic & follow the tone of the lyrics. You can write a part about Satan & make that part dark & ominous (think the Emperor’s theme in Star Wars) then make a big symphonic triumphant sounding part about Christ’s return. It’s art. Can be a weapon for Christ or a weapon of Satan. Music it’s self isn’t Christian or satanic. Tritone chords are not evil just because they SOUND dark. Not for Mass, but fine for Metal & movies. Some are pretty. It all falls on the composer. I hope to make some Holy Apostolic Metal someday. We need more Catholic bands. All the Protestant Metal is crappy Core. Screamocore, Metalcore, Hardcore & Deathcore-Ironic that Deathcore hasn’t died in the roughly 14 yrs. it’s been around. It sucks. I only listen to metal & epic movie scores in the gym. The Bible is the most Metal book in existence (I know, it’s not a book, it’s God’s eternal, living, breathed Word in book-form) & our God has orchestrated, is orchestrating & will orchestrate the most metal subject matter in existence. Without Catholicism, behemoth would have no one to oppose & be out of a job. Catholicism is Metal. Read Revelation. Occultists stole everything from us.
"Badassery" Is this a new word Brian? I like the word and how you used it in relation to Saint Lawrence. That being said, this was an outstanding video. Keep on going young man. God bless you and your family. Ave Maria!!!!!!
You put it well. I still listen to heavy metal but I'm far more selective about what bands I still keep around. Opeth is not one of them. Very talented musicians, and mopey as all hell. I used to play in death metal bands, and I realized that most of the people in the scene were adults who refused to grow up. I also really can't stand most vocalists anymore. There's no singing. Also being edgy and satanic is so 30 years ago.
The reason that people enjoy mocking religion is because of how much of a hold it has on society. It’s loosened up to the point where it now CAN be mocked and that’s why people do it. As a Satanist, I mock and blaspheme religion because I see it as a hindrance to real-world application to human potential. I laugh at fairy tales, of any kind, because of what they have done and continue to do to the kinds of people who make a concerted effort to not use critical thinking skills. There’s nothing inherently dangerous about blasphemy. However, it feels good. It feels good to raise a middle finger to the oppressive ideologies that have held so many individuals back, to put it lightly. How many people have died in the name of religion? Too many to really count. And for what? Unproven biases that make SOME people feel good about living in a universe that does not care about them. THAT is why people mock religion. Not because they are “running from God.” There is no god to run from, no devil to fear, and no afterlife to pine for.
Anton Szandor Lavey "The Satanic Bible" (Publisher? Zondervan Press - how many Bibles/spiritual writings have come under the influence of Zondervan Press?) Zondervan Press is a founding member of the Evangelical Christian Publishers Association. NIV. Lavey, he said he wrote his book as a joke. His dying words? "I was wrong."
The qualifier used to describe the Eucharist as being the most sacred thing in the Catholic religion is inaccurate. It IS THE most sacred ‘thing’ (not just because Catholics believe it) as it IS the Body Blood Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
I’m a huge Ghost fan. I have some of their merchandise. But I don’t devote my life to them like some of their fans do that I see on Facebook groups. I still attend church every Sunday, partake in the sacrament, and have Heavenly Father in my life. It’s all a choice. I listen to Ghost for the entertainment. Ghost doesn’t focus on Satanism other than the “look.” They enjoy parodying the Catholic Church because of how the creator was raised in it. They don’t promote violence or anything scary.
i don't think you were really into that kind of music or even understands what it meant if you think that growling is used to look tough espcially for a band like opeth
I do have to chime in say I enjoy some of hard rock and if you listen to the words, most of these singers are not singing about the Devil, example Black Sabbath War Pigs, a song about oppressive Government, brainwashing young minds, Government control over their people, Metallica, One, song about the horror of being a Soldier and coming home broken from the war, limbs gone, the mind tainted from War, Disturbed Sound of Silence, these songs are POWERFUL reminders of how a society can become easily swayed, and eventually oppressed by their Governments.
Great video but I disagree with the ice cream and sprinkles on bacon comparison. In cuisine, when you properly mix salty foods with sweet foods, you can create some absolutely tasty treats. Like a heavenly salted caramel chocolate bite.
True satanism exists and it is described within the pages of the Bible. It is the doctrine of Satan which Satan himself tells Eve in the Garden in Genesis 3:4-5: "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." And thus, the entirety of the satanic doctrine is this: that sin does not lead to death - and thus, making God a liar for saying that the penalty of sin is death. When Eve chose to accept Satan's false doctrine as being true, she was also choosing to reject the word of God by disobeying the commandment of God and by choosing to believe that God is lying about the death penalty. All false beliefs stem from this satanic doctrine which Satan told in the Garden and which Eve chose to believe, for Satan is the father of lies, as Jesus says in John 8:44: "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." Take note of how Jesus says how when Satan speaks a lie, he speaks of his own. This is because when someone speaks the Truth, the words they speak is the word of God; it is not their own. But when someone creates a lie, it is wholly of their own making. This is also why Satan is the father of lies, for his false doctrine is his seed (the seed of Satan mentioned in Genesis 3:15), which impregnates the mind and gives birth to false beliefs. This is why the Bible constantly refers to the adopting of foreign religious beliefs and practices as fornicating with the lesser gods of those beliefs, as one is accepting their seed (their seed being their false doctrine) which impregnates one's mind and corrupts it.
'he, his friends and the early followers suffered greatly, their deeds chronicled as holy martyrs.' 'then their numbers reached a great multitude and they slew' 'is it not he that sayed: if one smythes thyne left cheek giveth show him thyne right?' (kitaab al quzari, a defence of the despised faith).
@@kimfleury yes, it was written during the reconquista. it's purpose was to attack both christians and muslims, yet slip under the watchfull eye of the inquisator. you can insert any 'holy martyr' for a clearer reading
3:40 for the first three you mentioned, I am a-Theist, but not an-Anthropist. With Snorre's timeline of Yngling dynasty from Sweden over Wermland to Norway up to St. Olaf, Oden would have been about the right generation, either for a Yeshu who was really disciple of Joshua ben Pekharia (the one Talmudists like to confuse with Jesus of Nazareth!), or for a Druid fleeing from Caesar and using Norse countries as a new territory for Druidism. In the former case, it is possible "Thorr, Jorthar Son" doesn't mean "Thunder, son of Earth" - the classic norse myths don't know any earth goddess - but "Thunder, son of THE Land" and that Christ was reminding the sons of Zebedee of their father having a less glorious carreer than that of a simple fisherman. If not in the eyes of Swedes, at least in the eyes of God. Krishna may have been a pre-Flood hero, probably of the Cainite line. Read Pandavas as sons of Jabel and Kauravas as those of Tubal-Cain, that would make, arguably, Krishna Jubal. Also, Krishna means the same as Kush, so the post-Flood patriarch Kush may well have been named for a nickname of Jubal.
Brian, I wonder what you think of techno & house music. The real underground not pop edm. The roots are in black American soul & gospel, but those roots are pagan tribal. They overlapped Christian lyrics onto it, and keep the repetitive beats. It can be very uplifting and ‘spiritual’ but can get abstract and dark in tone. I’ve been into it for years but now questioning.
Hello Brian, love your presentations, so a massive thank you, just one small thing as it were, we Catholics should try to be correct in all things, so the quote you begin this presentation with is from Thomas Moore an Irish writer, musician and lyricist, Not St. Thomas More, it is a common mistake that so many make, the important thing is it is still TRUE of course. AVE MARIA! Shalom.
Young people who are bereft of the TLM will search for it until they find it. I've been seeing more and more families and young people coming to Mass. I feel like I was literally ripped off. Because of (I guess Satan's influence with Vatican II) we suffered the new Mass, the churches that resembled conference rooms, the horrid, insipid showy music and guitar Mass and extreme lack of reverence were what I grew up with. Then came CITH and the churches were wreck-o-vated, pews and kneelers thrown out, statues and stained glass - gone, altar girls, etc. Thank God that evil era is on it's way out and because Christ has been brought back by Pres. Trump, I think we are in for an American renaissance!.
Lol, no. As a LaVeyan/rational/theistic Satanist, the qualities that this video depicts me/us of having is pretty misrepresentative of possibly the majority of us. Our image is largely ruined by these edgy punks. I respect other religions, and I consider Satanism as more of a philosophy/set of ideologies. Although I’m not an atheist, so it’s still a religion to me.
At 2:40, the video opines that it could be that people join Satanism because they get a thrill out of the scariness of it. Where is this could be the case for some, after watching the movie "Hail Satan?" I realize many of their motivations are more self-centered and even have a hint of social reform. And might be more apropos if you use the argument that that motivation is from the modernist or humanist philosophy that you speak of in other videos. It is true that the movement of Satanism as a whole is reactionary. At least from the perspective of the movie, there is an attempt to hold a mirror up to the Christian identity within society. For better for worse, the act in the movie of trying to get their satanic prayer said at the courthouse and the people's response to it suggest from their perspective the limits of our plurality as a society. It would seem to me that like the perspective towards the Greco-Roman gods we should either ignore them or sharpen our virtues as a result of the presence of their thorn in our side.
and also the laveyan satanism is just the ideology of modern times, not being called by its proper name. Individualism, materialism, egocentrism, blasphemy, "freeing yourself", "tolerance" but not for everybody, tagging Catholicism as some relict of old, dark times and killing your soul - that is what young people are being fed with. And it is pure masonery.
I disagree. I think he misrepresents Satanism. As a LaVeyan/rational/atheistic-agnostic Satanist, I’m not most of the qualities he listed, and I respect other religions. I’m not anti-Christianity, I just don’t resonate with their ideologies about “Sin” and “asking god for forgiveness.”
@@A.S2400 And you think those time-stamps counter my perspective? It doesn’t. I obviously watched the entire video before commenting. I don’t use the upside-down cross, Satanism isn’t solely a Christian hate group, and is a very diverse community. Also, Christianity has essentially metaphorically took the place of the Roman Empire in the present day. The religion fundamentally causes problems that conflict with today’s society. This is why we have atheists, agnostics, Satanists, humanists, etc. Ever heard of The Satanic Panic during the 80s and 90s? The crusades? Other conflicts fueled by religion? Etc. Has religion caused more harm than good to man? Should philosophies take the place of religion?
I think a reason that people in Western Societies attack Christianity is that to some degree it represented traditional authority within society rather than just amongst believers. In England the Church of England is the established church and sixty years ago the views of the Church of England would have been very much reflected in the law of the country. They partly abdicated from that position and partly were pushed out as the number of adherents fell. Similarly I suspect in the US despite the separation of Church and State the law would have been based on Christian Morality. To attack Christianity is to attack the establishment / traditional society to attack other faiths does not have the same effect.
I mean that and they happen to always have some kind disgusting shit going on(pedophiles they have)
100%.
Satan is like a man who is obsessed with the ex he can no longer have, and then he recruits a bunch of people to join in on his ex-bashing, and they don't even know why.
yeah, but Jesus Christ said in a revelation (vision)... i don't remember well which saint it was, that if the devil repented for what he did, God would forgive him, but the sad thing is that he won't
No
Not in the least. That "ex" is already with satan.
Hmmm, maybe a culture that is heavily oppressive towards certain groups would have people who turn against it and KNOW WHY. God lovers love their woman enslavement. Islamic worshippers do it the best. In gods kingdom you are in chains, not freed.
Perfectly put!
I'm currently still a metalhead (and yes, a fan of Opeth's lol...) but there is nothing but good point after good point after good point here. Excellent content. Very well articulated, ripe thoughts.
Try listening to some beautiful polyphony like Palestrina's "Missa Papae Marcelli" and see how it makes you feel. A good history of the trajectory of modern music and also on how music affects the soul is E Michael Jones, Dionisos Rising: Cultural Revolution Out of the Spirit of Music, at culturewars.com or discussed in youtube talks and interviews.
@@darrelldw713 I like some classical, and I can appreciate this, but it lacks the energy I get from rock/metal without a doubt.
@@darrelldw713 if you like Palestrina check out Josquin des Perez and Gesualdo
Opeth are talented musicians. They arent really even the type of band to do all the try hard stuff like in most death metal and they fall into the prog subsect of the genre especially nowadays. Even the gutteral vocals are used like salt to add texture to the other aspects of the music, unlike most death metal where it really is just overused and generic
@@lunalancer5971 there is good metal (I'm getting into the very anthemic power metal), but death metal amd whateber stiff that tries to be "oh so scary and dakgerous" is so cringey. I can't listen to it or take it seriously.
The world has gone mad.. especially in the West.
Joe Houston you mean THE LEFT COAST PORTLAND OREGON
Post-modernism is surely a scourge on the world.
"A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see one who is sane, they will point to him and say 'you are mad, for you are not like us.'" - St. Anthony the Great
@@DarrylCross awesome quote!
@@introscapes9418 I’d say materialism is probably one of the bigger fundamental issues in Western culture today. It underlies the perverse morality of things like Marxism, Utilitarianism, consumerism, Neoliberalism, Modernism and Post-Modernism.
I slightly disagree with metal being a major problem, it's normally just people expressing anger or skepticism and I think everyone has been there. If you really want to see satanism in action with real intent to harm look at pop music, modern films, and television shows, that movie cuties is a good example and some of these modern pop songs are 10 times more degenerate than black with which is normally hyperbole, keep in mind these songs are played everywhere.
Very well said.
I agree. Evil is subtle/shrewd.
@@roisinpatriciagaffney4087 yeah something to remember the devil was once an angel he won't appear as an ugly demonic beast, he will be beautiful. That's something Dave Mustaine from megadeth said.
@@countlessbathory1485 satan is a fallen angel. He would not serve God. He may tempt with superfically beautiful things, but always remember he is deceitful and he is also the father of lies. All of his temptations are attractive to us; they wouldn't tempt us otherwise
Pax Christi. ☘
@@roisinpatriciagaffney4087 Amen
This makes me think of how woke-ism is just a poor and incomplete imitation of Christian virtues.
Which is an interpretation consistent with what we know about sin and the devil. Few sins, if any, are stand-alone; they are perversions. The devil knows he can't rival God's omnipotence, which is how he created all things, and resorts to warping what beautiful things God has already established into inferior, deracinated forms, after which he sells them off as new and superior.
The expressed mode of operation in Christianity is loving union in Christ and His body. Wokeness, however, is the antithesis; tribal division borne of hate.
This video is very timely. I loved Opeth in high school . I had a moment in late college where I started noticing the crowd at all the concerts were 30 - 40 somethings trying to act 18. Now when I try to listen to old stuff like In Flames , Static -X etc. I just cringe. Thanks for the video, it articulated well something I have thought for a long time.
I like Dissection even though it's Satanic. It's very operatic, melodic and atmospheric.
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So what you're saying is that you used to like Opeth, but then you discovered that old people like them too, so now you don't like them anymore, hence it is timely to label them Satanists?
@@TheLivirus No def not calling them satanists.
I agree with you. It’s all I see at metal shows or in a lot of alt scenes rly. It doesnt change how i feel about the artists but i can definitely see when someone is just trying hard to stay an “angry teenager” like MM for example.
As I was going through RCIA and still skeptical about the Catholic Church, I thought life would become terribly boring. Haha! Life in Christ is wonderfully challenging and the martyrs are incredibly metal.
I learn new stories all the time and it’s amazing.
@@tknows470 yes!
Try Biblical Christianity. Catholicism is not Biblical in any way. Check put Pastor Charles Stanley Sermons. He's the closest to a Biblical Pastor I can think of. He's like an old grandfather giving good, Biblical advice and he always says "what does the Bible have to say about this..."
@@christinaFaith84 You’re derivative
@@christinaFaith84 the Holy Roman Catholic Church was instituted by Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. There is no other. He is the Bridegroom and we are the Bride.
One of the very interesting things about Satanism is how many Satanists do not believe that Satan actually exists. As you have said, it is only a mockery of true religion, a lie passed off as truth, darkness passed off as light, foolishness passed off as wisdom. The irony is that Catholics have the true conception of Satan while Satanists have the false one. While God is "I AM", Satan is "I AM NOT", or at least would prefer his followers to so believe (this is why most "Satanists" are "atheists"). The reality is that if Satan exists, then God also exists (and created Satan), and if God exists then we ought to worship God rather than Satan. In the same way if sin exists, it only exists because righteousness exists. If lawlessness exists, it also owes its existence to divine Law. If evil exists, it is only as a result of good also existing. If rebeliousness exists, it implies the existence of legitimate authority. So it turns out that the existence of evil is counterintuitively one of the most compelling arguments for not only the existence of God, but also for His divine authority and legitimacy, as well as His mercy and love. If "might makes right", then we all ought to be obedient to God who is the Almighty.
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." -Charles Pierre Baudelaire
Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.
Matthew 25:41
Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar and the father of lies.
2 Corinthians 11:14
Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
2 Peter 2:17-19
These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. With lofty but empty words, they appeal to the sensual passions of the flesh and entice those who are just escaping from others who live in error. They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves to depravity. For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.
1 John 3:8
The one who practices sin is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the very start. This is why the Son of God was revealed, to destroy the works of the devil.
James 2:19
Do you believe that there is only one God? Good! The demons also believe--and tremble with fear.
Revelation 20:10
Then the Devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
All that being said however, our focus should be on the good, true, and beautiful, since the goal of evil and sin is to distract you from these things.
Philippians 4:8
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable-if anything is excellent or praiseworthy-think on these things.
Proverbs 17:24
An intelligent person aims at wise action, but a fool starts off in many directions.
There ARE theistic Satanists that genuinely believe in and honor Satan as a God but they seem to be a lot less popular for whatever reason. I'd have more respect for Satanists if they actually believed in it and weren't just edgy atheists.
I don't know about Canada, but in France it is not tolerated that satanists desecrate a church or the eucharist.
I have never met a single satanist adult, but I'm sure they must exist. Most satanist I've encountered were during my adolescence, and all of which left that movement as adults, and now laugh about it.
But I think satanism, when it's a fad for adolescents speaks to something else that a lot of us go through. It caters to a certain angst: of growing up, of truly realizing our mortality and that of those we love, of finding a sens of belonging... This sort of morbid fascination can also be found with vampires (though not the ones that sparkle in the sunlight).
Thus, I believe it's important to make a distinction between the adolescent "satanist", for whom this will just be a fad, to those who persue this belief as adults.
When I think of Satanism I always think of those edgy atheist groups in the states. They engage in a lot of political stuff like trying to get abortion covered as a religious right to circumvent prolife/anti-choice laws on a state level. I forget which one of them put a statue of Satan outside a government building that had xtian monuments to support separation of church and state, free artistic expression and/or whine about the existence of the Christian monuments there.
I'm all for birth control and abortion rights but I just find that kind of Satanist extremely cringey. Especially the trying to use religious mandates for birth control or other political issues when they are openly atheist. You could say religions can be non-theistic like some forms of Buddhism but I think a theistic belief separates a religion from other types of organizations and belief systems.
@@humanbean8590 I would tend to agree with most of what you have stated. Stating one has a religion - even satanist - to then invoque atheism to push a political or social agenda is just non-sensical.
I'm all for separation of state and religion, but find it utterly ridiculous and contradicting to put up the statue of a demon, or pagan "god" in order to promote this separation.
This type of satanist movement seems specific to the US and Canada, perhaps. In France at least, satanists desecrate graveyards and catholic churches, and, as horrible as it might be, it ends there mostly. They don't have a political agenda, and they don't demand rights. Mostly the satanists I've encountered in France, are young people with angst and it's their way of expressing it. Perhaps in the future, this will be another "joyous" importation France can look forward to...?
Your “if what you’re really looking for...” part at 9:00 exactly was AMAZING!
Opeth explores a certain range of human emotions and often applies dark themes to build a certain atmosphere, but I think you're being very superficial to judge them and their listeners by this facade. In the end, the band members are musicians, artists, husbands, fathers, friends and human beings; certainly not satanists. I'd argue that examining the darker aspects of our nature through art makes us mature, not naive. It helps us develop tools to recognize and deal with negative emotions when they arise, rather than being taken by surprise and acting on instinct.
Agree. Opeth has genuine artistic merit and as far as I know they are simply atheists not Satanists. He could have used actual OTT Satanist bands as an example. The cringier the better. Deicide, Dissection etc. Could have made fun of Glen Benton's forehead inverted cross and genuinely silly Satanic bands and aesthetics that just fail. Don't use Ghost because they actually do a good job making the dark Pope aesthetic work.
@@humanbean8590 Nah. That would be too easy to pick an extreme. His argument is stronger because he focused on a group that has merit. That dram aesthetic is the caricature of the evil rebel, no matter how technically proficient the artist is.
I’m sorry but if opeths music summarizes your negative feelings then you must not be human. What feelings can that garbage arouse in you? Or relate to?
Regardless of whether opeth is a “satanic band,” it doesn’t mean it’s not total rubbish. I often debate my friends on whether pop music is an actually valid form of music. The same goes for metal. If you actually understand theory and notation you can’t like metal…or any other song that uses four repeated chords for that matter.
@@sapereaude6339 Your name suggests you think of yourself as enlightened, yet you speak like a bigot. Watch this classical composer break down and appreciate a song by Opeth: ua-cam.com/video/Iujfijfnej4/v-deo.html
@@sapereaude6339 This is one of the most pig ignorant things I've seen on Brian's channel. You don't know enough about what you're criticizing if you're just reducing a large body of work to a single four cord structure. Pop and Metal alike.
It is like the "outlaw biker" look you see in some motorcyclists. They want to be feared, to be seen as dangerous. They want to be seen as nonconformists, although they conform to their own style (leather jackets, bandannas, facial hair, etc.).
I will have to note tho, a leather jacket while riding a motorcycle isn't really conforming to the stereotypical "outlaw biker" look, but more so for safety~ like I've seen people riding motorcycles in t-shirts and singlets, and the look of horror that it garners on people's faces including biker gangs is understandable. But other than that I agree with your point :)
5:45 time to end communion on the hand.
Agreed!
Time to end affiliation with the Vatican II Novus Ordo "counter-church" (Archbishop Vigano's term). Vatican II itself should be "discarded and forgotten" (Vigano). Not only communion in the hand but a large number of sacrileges are avoided by simply adhering to traditional Catholicism.
@@darrelldw713 Yes
AMEN TO THAT!!!
tMatt
To have the Lord placed in my filthy unworthy hands is sacrilege. ON MY KNEES ON THE TONGUE!!!
It's hard to take a band seriously when the lead singer sounds like the Cookie Monster from Sesame Street...
Man he fully killed satanism, incredible. That was pure intellectual assassination. Beautifully done.
You're absolutely right. He did destroy his own idea of what satanism is. Too bad no one believes in the things he was debunking
@@tony1685 I'm sorry that didn't make any sense to me
@@tony1685 Yeah....no it's not, and I'm an atheist saying that
@@tony1685 I don't think you do lol. Catholicism is not Satanic
@@tony1685 Bold of you to assume I don't know the bible just because I'm not christian now. Good night though
So this is my testimony about getting back into the church after 10 years of being out of it. For awhile I was an atheist and then an agnostic, however, God delivered me out of a difficult and strange period of my life that left me without doubt of His existence and goodness.
It's a bit of a long read, so bear with me.
A couple weeks into February of 2018 I experienced some dreams of a strange nature during a time where I was isolated, depressed, and desperate. I've dealt with anxiety and depression for along time and I was at the end of my rope. I had considered seriously commiting suicide two years ago and when the depression hit this time I couldn't take it anymore. I was searching desperately for something that would allow me to leave the situation I was in.
I was addicted to gaming and was very isolated. I also fell heavily into a series of books I was re-reading at the time that I had a great obsession with, The Dark Tower series by Stephen King.
A few months into a reread of this series I had a dreams in February 2018 one of which I think was prophetic, having to do with seeing a woman and man in the dream that I later saw the next day while walking and while watching TV. This was a man and woman that I hadn't met or seen before.There were also aspects of the dreams (which I can't easily get into because it's difficult to explain due to the content) that led me to believe that The Dark Tower series having to do with parallel universes was real.
I became convinced that there was a world parallel to ours, like the books, that I could gain access to if I used certain objects that I had in my possession . After weird events also began occuring in my home, with my television, and with me, I told my parents about all of it.
They were adamant that what I was experiencing was demonic deception and that I should cease reading these books and give myself over to God.
Being stubborn and delusional I decided to continue in what I thought was a great discovery and a way out of my situation.
Events transpired over the next few days that left me in a state of confusion and despair. My father also ended up in the hospital that week. It wasn't until I began to cry out to Jesus that things began to change. I began to hear from God during this time. I felt like I should rid myself of the books as well as the stuff I had gathered connected to them.
I eventually ended up getting rid of all the books and objects connected to them, as well as a lot of other stuff including my games. We were doing some work in my room at the time so luckily I had something to help keep my mind off what had been happening as well as grow in the word from listening to 107.9 on my radio.
When we finally returned to church a couple weeks later the sermon and series was about the book of Daniel, some of which has to do with prophetic dreams and visions among other things. I know now that this wasn't a coincidence.
Once I started getting involved in the church again and reading the Bible, I got baptised on my birthday. I found out that these things really aren't as uncommon or unbelievable as they seem. My mens bible study at the time had members that had experienced supernatural and amazing things as well.
Later on that year I witnessed other miracles first-hand within the young adult group I was in.
I know this isn't going to sound credible if you aren't a Christian. Back when I didn't believe, these stories didn't seem compelling or true to me. However I can tell you that if you reach out to God wholeheartedly he will reveal himself to you.
I'd like to ask that if you're going through something right now, some kind of challenge or difficulty that you reach out to God and ask him to help you. Sometimes it may not seem like anything is happening, but if you're willing to hold on and push through you can see him move in your situation in miraculous ways.
Here's more about the Gospel here:
www.tvcresources.net/resource-library/articles/the-gospel-of-jesus-christ
If any of you would like to receive or feel led to receive Jesus Christ as your saviour pray this and believe it with all your heart. ❤️ 🙏
Dear God, I know that I am a sinner and there is nothing that I can do to save myself. I confess my complete helplessness to forgive my own sin or to work my way to heaven. At this moment I trust Christ alone as the One who bore my sin when He died on the cross. I believe that He did all that will ever be necessary for me to stand in your holy presence. I thank you that Christ was raised from the dead as a guarantee of my own resurrection. As best as I can, I now transfer my trust to Him. I am grateful that He has promised to receive me despite my many sins and failures. Father, I take you at your word. I thank you that I can face death now that you are my Savior. Thank you for the assurance that you will walk with me through the deep valley. Thank you for hearing this prayer. In Jesus’ Name. Amen.
Good luck and may God bless you! And remember satan is a spirit of fear, a lying demon, and a child abusing loser who is going to hell. He is referred to in the Bible as the spirit of the antichrist. He is also a false prophet who can never be trusted. He can pretend to be the Holy Spirit and try to trick you. He is a coward and a traitor. So look to God and not evil. Listen to God's voice and not the voice of the enemy.
Very inspiring, but the Bible and one's perceived personal relation to Jesus isn't enough. We need the Church Christ founded, it's sacraments, its authoritative teaching and correct interpretation of the Bible. This is to be found in Traditional Catholicism (as opposed to the visible church you see headed by Francis the Apostate). The Bible itself proves the teachings of the Catholic Church:
docs.google.com/file/d/0B43z_Az4kEXdTWM4ZmVnd2JUZzA/edit
Great testimony, thanks for sharing.
You should have listened to the lyrics of the music instead of only focusing on the aesthetic. Much of the dark/heavy music coming out of the 70s and being commercialized in the 80s had lyrical content that dealt with the horrors of war, and that genre is a direct result of the impact that Vietnam had on young people who saw their older brother getting shipped off to what can be described as hell on earth.
This was such a great video!
I used to be really into Opeth. I wouldn't characterise them as satanic. A lot of the Scandinavian bands that were heavily into Satanism early on, moved on from that and became some sort of weird naturalists, neo paganists or atheists. I think there's more to metal than than Satanism. It also appears in beautiful music such as in Lizt and Berlioz. Extreme metal is more a sublimation of ugliness. In that sense it's really aesthetically rewarding.
What exactly appears in Liszt? Metal? Maybe contemporary classical foreshadowing but not a subjection to “ugliness.” Which I am glad that you admit yourself that that is what it is. “Sublimation of ugliness.” It sounds like you’ve watched videos on similarities between metal and classics. Anyone that knows music knows that Liszt never sublimated to ugliness.
@@sapereaude6339 I meant to say that the diabolic appears in beautiful music such as Liszt and Berlioz... Tartini. I didn't really care to make a connection between musical elements in classical and metal. Did I say that Liszt was sublimating to ugliness? Not really... that was a commentary solely on extreme metal and the aesthetic experience derived from listening to it. I really like bands that started as black metal and ended up doing experimental stuff (Green Carnation, In the Woods, Borknagar).
Wouldn't you say that Liszt was more willing than other composer of his time to use dissonance?
Anyway, should've worded my original comment better. Thanks for engaging!
Brian... where have you been all my life? If the majority of Catholics were like you, everyone would be flocking back to the church! I just can't tell you enough, how much I'm enjoying all your videos. Thank you and keep up the amazing work of God!
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Great video! I never liked Opeth but a goth band I loved and still do is Type O Negative. The lead singer, Peter Steele had a deep reversion to his Catholic faith right before his passing in 09. His later songs reflect this. Interesting. Pray for his soul.
Big fan of Peter Steele. He was certainly a troubled soul.
Many people are like him because of the inconsistencies, and hypocrisy practiced by people in the name of the church.
I've heard of Type O Negative, but I didn't know that story about the lead singer. Most likely, it was because the person who told me about the band was agnostic about Faith in general.
Great to see Type O listeners here.
Bruh the ending was such a good fit! It truly made me see some of the amazing and powerful roles Christians play! Don’t even get me started on exorcism, God has given us so much power in this world!
I like Jonathan Pageau's video on 666. Despite its role in the Revelation, its essence is completely unrelated to Satan, making all these edgy folks who use the number look extra kickflip to the moon silly.
Kickflip to the moon silly lol that's awesome
Better than 30 years ago, I heard Satanism summed up as "really bad Catholicism"
Bad in this case can mean shallow, pathetic, derivative, automatic naysaying, etc...
This was such a great video. I was for many years in punk rock bands but I always felt like being Catholic was the most punk rock ant-establishment thing I could be. I always chuckled when my friends back then would make fun of Christians and conservatives but then vote for corporate politicians for example. I would always think like “ I thought you were rock & roll or punk rock or metal but you’re doing the most “establishment” thing you could possibly do!” This video really hit home with me! Thanks for making it! DEUS VULT!
lol @ Catholic being anti establishment
@@LEOHACKMAN247😂😂😂
Its not about being tough or scary, its just dark music that tells stories of dark fantasy/horror. What's the difference from a heavy track by Opeth and an H.P Lovecraft short? It is just fantasy art and nothing more.. For a lot of people this music is a sort of escapism just like reading Lord of the Rings or playing DnD. We are just nerds who wanna hear cool heavy sountracks of dark magic and the medieval world (the medieval world was not all love and light) as well as the light and righteousness of our history. It is not as far fetched as you are making it out to be. I like listening to the most godly sounding metal bands Blind Guardian, Manowar, Saxon, Manilla Road etc.. But just like black or death metal It is all just music for dorks who love high fantasy and horror. There is no political or religious message in a band like Opeth. They are nothing more than a gothic form of progressive rock.
The bigger issue is the popular music and how it effects our youth. I once walked by a children's birthday party where kids where dancing and singing along to Lil Wayne's Lick it Like a Lollipop.. This is far more dangerous because of how accessible it is to the masses. There are absurd messages within pop music lyrics today which I believe to be a strategic way of breaking down of the family and western tradition.
Enjoyed that. Genuine original views are always refreshing.
Hebrews 2:14-18
New International Version
14 Since the children have flesh and blood,(A) he
MERCY
too shared in their humanity(B) so that by his death he might break the power(C) of him who holds the power of death-that is, the devil(D)-
15 and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear(E) of death. 16 For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham’s descendants.(F) 17 For this reason he had to be made like them,[a](G) fully human in every way, in order that he might become a merciful(H) and faithful high priest(I) in service to God,(J) and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people.(K) 18 Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.(L)
Everyone's should check out the interview Fr Dave Nix did with an ex satanic high wizard (now Catholic). It's riveting.
@Nick Check out the internet I cited and decide for yourself.
Opeth’s newer music is actually not that heavy. It’s actually kinda beautiful. No screaming vocals, lots of melody and 70s prog influences. Musically it’s very interesting.
There was this Swedish black metal band called Reverorum ib Malacht that studied Catholic theology so they could have more efficient blasphemy. Eventually they converted to Catholicism!
I think you don’t actually understand satanism you should do more research into it before making a video on it.
If satanism was what you were describing it as then yeah it would be ludicrous
I'm not going to be quick with my assessment because I want to be fair, and I'm not a Satanist so I don't really have a horse in this race, but do you have any sources to reinforce these claims? I've known quite a few Satanists and while I did not find their movement compelling enough to join, I can say that little of this video speaks to why they do what they do or act as they act, at least in my experience.
Firstly, thanks for making this I needed to hear it right now.
I would like to differentiate between an OPENLY satirical group and other types of dark or satanic metal. I think Ghost (forgot the guys name) would agree with the thrust of this video essay. 4:10 Spot on HOWEVER you really really as a Catholic are remiss to not mention Tolkien here. His entire work is grounded upon the idea of a wholly good and divine creator God vs an evil offshoot which has a total lack of ability to create ex nihilo and therefore is reduced to twisting/perverting the essences of already existant beings and institutions.
Love Ghost! The creator/lead vocalist name is Tobias Forge.
Always so pertinent. Thank you . God bless you.
You have a unique way of communicating truth, history, common modern misconceptions regarding so many issues facing not only Catholics but believers of Christ throughout Christendom. Thank you.
Soooo good! Loved this. I’m watching it again:)
Great at destruction - because incapable of creation.
Fury - over own incapacity.
Death - for fear of life and living.
I consider this so far, one of his best videos.
Great insight as usual. St Christopher pray for us!
One of your best videos man, God bless you.
I'm not even religious, but I really like your videos and your take on things. This one was especially excellent! I used to be into this kind of dark satanic music too, and now I just find it laughable.
PS: It was funny how you visibly had a hard time keeping a straight face during the video 👍
Very often beauty leads people into the truth of the (traditional) Catholic Church. Listen to this and see how it makes you feel: ua-cam.com/video/BRfF7W4El60/v-deo.html
Then look at one of the 4 gospels and ask yourself if someone could have made it all up. Praying for enlightenment, guidance, and strength helps greatly too.
This was wonderful Brian ~ thank you ~
Estás en otro nivel Brian. Escucho atento y estoy fascinado. Felicidades y gracias por compartir.
I understand the point that you were making at 3:36 regarding mythological/pagan gods, however, I think referring to yourself as an “atheist” with respect to said gods is a misnomer. One can’t be an atheist, at all, if they believe in God, or some other deity. Non-believers commonly say that Christians are atheists when it comes to their denial of the multitude of gods that they reject, but this is a fallacious argument. William Lane Craig elucidates the problem with this in the following clip:
*Aren’t We All Atheists?:* ua-cam.com/video/03pyLpdbALQ/v-deo.html
I agree. It's literally incorrect. Every Christian is a monotheist. It's a central tenet of the religion. Muslims sometimes call Christians polytheists as a slur because of the xtian concept of the Trinity (technically this would be tritheism lol). I hate the ignorance in this society of extremely basic theological terms. I'm not saying label every thing and muh helicopter gender is valid but we shouldn't throw out basic theology because it helps us understand ideas that are bigger than human experience and can be hard to conceptualize. A lot of angry edgy atheist teens are actually misotheists because they believe in God and hate him and ancient Jews were henotheists (acknowledge the existence of other Gods but worship only one). An atheist by definition does not believe in the concept of deities Themselves. So you cannot be a Christian and "atheist" about polytheistic Gods.
I'm going to have to wholeheartedly disagree about Opeth. I'm biassed, of course, because they've been one of my favorite bands since I was in middle school but I've never thought of them as a chiefly Satanic band, and as far as metal bands go, they've never tried to sound heavy and dark for their own sake. You may think Michael's Cookie Monster vocals sounded silly, but that doesn't mean there isn't beauty in what Opeth was doing. Unlike a lot of metal, Opeth mixes really dark sections with clean melodic parts, and in my opinion, the darkness only makes the beauty shine more. You can't listen to a song like The Moor, and think that they're going for "dark and scary," and nothing more. Even a song like Demon of the Fall, which starts of really dark and brutal, has one of the most memorable, emotional (musically) endings of any song I can think of. I can think of a few black metal bands that live up to your characterization, but not Opeth.
I totally agree. It'd be much better to go for genuinely Satanic bands like Dissection and analyse and counter it and the cringiest among them like the guy from Deicide who branded an inverted cross on his forehead.
I got the same reaction from my kids when they heard me listening to Soul Fly. They couldn't understand why the singer was angry. I still like Soul Fly, but I find myself really uninterested in much of the music I once thought was so great. It's just too nihilistic and empty. Some of it, I admit, still has a great sound to me, but alas most of it just doesn't have the alluring sound and lyrics I once thought it did. Call it a maturity in faith, I guess. An odd twist of fate I didn't expect in my youth, but one I am now glad the Lord graced me with.
Like their song "back to the primitive" where they want to be tribesmen to avoid rules and mores and politics.
Primitive tribal life has even more rules than modern society!
What they want is to be preppers.
@@rosyclown when my kids started repeating the lyrics to "Boom" and having a laugh at how angry Max Cavalera sounded was the moment that gave me pause.
Brian, Spot on again in this video.
I'm praying that your viewers will grow in the millions..
I certainly will share your videos with others & encourage them to do the same.
God bless you and keep you always.✝️
I agree the discussion of music and its effects on people, particularly teenagers, is an interesting and important conversion. I was never into Metal, but did enjoy goth bands like the Cure. It was theraputic for me and for many teens. I'm 47 now. I understand that moment of feeling silly listening to something you used to like. Where to draw the line for when music goes from being a theraputic release to being a harmful practice is a very good conversation to have. This video is fine; I think maybe if you choose a more popular style of music such as rap, especially gangsta rap, the converstation will indeed get quite interesting. I personally cannot stand gangsta rap, but my daughter likes it. We argue about it (intelligently, I hope) all the time.
I like Dave Matthews Band, too, but many of his songs are about smoking weed. Does that make me a hypocrite? That would be a great conversation to have. I do think that music can be an cathartic outlet...the Greeks knew this, too. Greek drama is all about the community living vicariously through the protagonist, the tragic hero. The community can experience what the hero experiences without actually being a hero. I can listen to DMB's song "Jimi Thing" and enjoy the relaxation of smoking weed without actually doing it. As an adult, I know the difference.
Two observations:
1) Not sure why you slip in a jab ( "and atheists") at 4:07. This video has nothing to do with atheists. I am a skeptical Catholic, heading towards lapsed. I have been reading all sorts of religious blogs and debates over the past 4 years, on every topic imaginable, and none of it is related to this topic of satanism. I don't have any particular objections to this video other than #2 below, but please don't conflate atheists and satanists.
2) A little after the 9:00 minute mark you bring in the Roman Empire. I think your analysis of the relationship between Christianity and the Roman empire is a bit simplistic. Recent scholarship by many, including Bart Ehrman and Candida Moss, has shown the persecution of Christians that you mention to have been sporadic and exaggerated. Rome largely left the Christians alone, as is shown in Ehrman's book "The Triumph of Christianity" and Candida Moss' book "The Myth of Persecution."
From Amazon:
*Moss, however, exposes that the “Age of Martyrs” is a fiction-there was no sustained 300-year-long effort by the Romans to persecute Christians. Instead, these stories were pious exaggerations; highly stylized rewritings of Jewish, Greek, and Roman noble death traditions; and even forgeries designed to marginalize heretics, inspire the faithful, and fund churches.*
www.amazon.com/Myth-Persecution-Christians-Invented-Martyrdom/dp/0062104551
So...This idea of constant horrendous persecution is a myth. The persecutions of Nero and Diocletian were, no doubt, particularly nasty. But Christians were not "relentlessly persecuted" at every opportunity as you stated, and the Romans had zero intentions of stamping out Christianity. The Romans actually did not care much about Christianity at all. They wanted good order, taxes to be paid, and the state gods to be honored. They allowed quite a bit of latitude in worship of any other gods. So I think it is important to get accurate historical context here.
As for the 4th Century, the Church "prevailed" against the Roman Empire by adopting the structures of the Roman Empire, obtaining Imperial tax exemptions, and installing Bishops who functioned essentially as Roman magistrates. This is an incredibly complicated topic, but the 4th Century essentially saw the uneasy merger of Church and State and laid the groundwork for the divine right of kings. The Church acquired vast amounts of wealth during this period. Bishops fought each other tooth and nail over the proper understanding of the Trinity. Those accepting the "proper" understanding of the Trinity (the interpretation favored by the emperor) saw themselves with greater power, prestige and access to imperial wealth, society and power. The losers, branded heretics, lost their Churches and many were exiled. It was an ugly business.
The 4th century was when the "institutional church" was born, and all the problems with clericalism began. Really and truly, the sex abuse scandal (and many other abuses) can be traced all the way back to the 4th century. I think many conservatives would actually agree.
Please check out "The Closing of the Western Mind" by Charles Freeman for a very detailed examination of Church history during the first four centuries.
The reason he conflates atheists and Satanists is not to be closeminded and imply they are one in the same, as far as I can tell. It's because all the most well known Satanist groups and figures in the world are actually atheist groups. They believe in Satan as a symbol of rebellion but not as a genuine thing. Anton Lavey for example and his church were all atheist. There is such thing as a theistic Satanist but it's much rarer. I don't know how any orgs with any type of scale while more popular atheistic ones are involved in political protests and stuff so there's enough of them to do that.
I'm a former Satanist, and a big metal fan. But ive come to Christ with the last 2 months. I started attending Liturgy, reading my Bible, and praying daily. I also got rid of my blasphemous shirts, and im losing interest in alot of metal (the stuff against God. But i still like stuff thats more creative).
Looking back, its so obvious to see how hollow and lacking Atheism, Satanism, and Paganism all are in theology. The story of Christ truly is the greatest story everytold. And its a story we can all be taking a part in everyday. Hopefully people like me can make this change in their lives as well.
I used to think the weak thing was to give in and become a Christian. Now I know weakness is rejecting his goodness and giving in to the easy pleasures of society.
This is so on point it might even be deleted for wrong-think as an excuse to remove it.
Dear Turncoat Paladin(s),
Devout Christians have been making dark and heavy music from Bach through to Lamb of God. Jesus loves death metal musicians as much as he loves you. I respectfully assert that you have traded one form of prejudice for another.
May God walk with you;
and Light your Way with Djent.
Haha, this comment is gold!
👏🏻 very well put!
Brian, would you please start uploading your content to LBRY? I would prefer to follow you there as opposed to UA-cam. Thank you and keep up the good work!
Wow! LBRY is still going? I was one of the first investors...
@@ashleynikolenko LBRY/Odysee is going super strong. Lots of conent. Check it out!
Awesome video, you really motivate me to be excited about my faith. Thanks for all you do
That's one hell of a leap you're making at 3:15. I sincerely hope you're not serious.
Indeed, this video is full of it.
I was a Traditional Satanist for about 7.5 years. Traditional Satanism differs a bit from the Modern you were speaking on. However,There were some key points you made that were right on the money. A lot of Satanism is a hodgepodge of many different belief systems showcasing either Satan as the Ultimate deity or “ One’s Self” as it’s own God. There was a lot of Power in the faith (I believed it to be ) providing a very seductive atmosphere that completely fell apart after a few anomalies that happened to me.
I knew you were a metalhead, respects from Argentina.
Interestingly enough, many people that are “satanic” real or for show have a false sense that Satan will gift them an eternal party will all their friends upon going to hell . These people do not realize that Satan is the prince of lies , there is no eternal party of drinking and wild sex, having fun with their friends. Hell is a total absence of God which is light. So being in an eternal black hole by yourself ???
Hell is immeasurably worse than that. See this, for example:
mycatholicsource.com/mcs/tp/topic_page-hell.htm
1 Corinthians 14:6
Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?
That was a nice video! Also, thanks for telling me about Opeth! They've got some great stuff ^^
"The god of this world has
blinded the minds of them
which believe not..."
II Corintians 4:4
I think Opeth is more so mythical nonsense and poetic nonsense than it is satanic (maybe besides orchid) the lyricist Mikael Akerfeldt says he is an atheist and orchid is supposed to be occultish, but he mostly just came up with lyrical nonsense that sounded mystic or poetic to him at the time
its besides the point. I do agree with the video :)
true counter culture or rebellion is Christianity and always will be
You claimed that the church of satanism denies that God exists, but that’s not entirely true. There are two forms of Satanism: atheistic and theistic.
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Metal isn’t inherently evil. It’s like money. It can be used for good or evil. Metal is one of the most talented genres to play & hardest to learn. Metal vocals are just diaphragm control & throat inflections. It’s just a noise. We can’t say it sounds “demonic” or not. There are several different of styles & genres within Metal. Metal can be absolutely beautiful & theatrical & talented. Cardi B is far more satanic than Behemoth because at least you know what you’re getting with Nergal & co. Cardi B & Nicki Minaj are far more dangerous. Metal : Blasphemy, occult aesthetics. Sure, a grave matter on the part of the composer, but rap induces that prideful, mammon worshipping sexual & gangster drugs & murder lifestyle. Satanic Metal is at least honest. There is a ministry opportunity in Metal. Just because it’s intense doesn’t mean it has to be “unnatural”. It’s a man-made music genre. It’s not a matter of natural or disordered. That’s when it becomes pharisaic legalism & one could go insane trying to decide what’s right & wrong. Metal can be spiritual warfare music & reach an audience that would otherwise never hear the Gospel. Metal heads will listen to whatever sounds good, even if it’s Christian & they are not. The Christian message gets embedded into their spirit & subconscious & can produce fruit in their lives later & induce theological research to learn what the lyrical themes mean, leading them to the truth. I was a HIM (His Infernal Majesty) fan & Ville Valo’s lyrics made me research Christianity. My FSSP Priest said they were satanic based on what I told him of the lyrics, I felt the Apostolic authority in his words & no longer listen to them. Metal can be theatrical & cinematic & follow the tone of the lyrics. You can write a part about Satan & make that part dark & ominous (think the Emperor’s theme in Star Wars) then make a big symphonic triumphant sounding part about Christ’s return. It’s art. Can be a weapon for Christ or a weapon of Satan. Music it’s self isn’t Christian or satanic. Tritone chords are not evil just because they SOUND dark. Not for Mass, but fine for Metal & movies. Some are pretty. It all falls on the composer. I hope to make some Holy Apostolic Metal someday. We need more Catholic bands. All the Protestant Metal is crappy Core. Screamocore, Metalcore, Hardcore & Deathcore-Ironic that Deathcore hasn’t died in the roughly 14 yrs. it’s been around. It sucks. I only listen to metal & epic movie scores in the gym. The Bible is the most Metal book in existence (I know, it’s not a book, it’s God’s eternal, living, breathed Word in book-form) & our God has orchestrated, is orchestrating & will orchestrate the most metal subject matter in existence. Without Catholicism, behemoth would have no one to oppose & be out of a job. Catholicism is Metal. Read Revelation. Occultists stole everything from us.
"Badassery" Is this a new word Brian? I like the word and how you used it in relation to Saint Lawrence.
That being said, this was an outstanding video. Keep on going young man. God bless you and your family. Ave Maria!!!!!!
As a Filipino cradle Catholic Filipinos are EVERYWHERE around the world spreading the Catholic faith. Since most of us Filipinos are Catholic.
God blessings from ex-black metal fan/occasionaly musician.
You put it well. I still listen to heavy metal but I'm far more selective about what bands I still keep around. Opeth is not one of them. Very talented musicians, and mopey as all hell. I used to play in death metal bands, and I realized that most of the people in the scene were adults who refused to grow up. I also really can't stand most vocalists anymore. There's no singing. Also being edgy and satanic is so 30 years ago.
The reason that people enjoy mocking religion is because of how much of a hold it has on society. It’s loosened up to the point where it now CAN be mocked and that’s why people do it.
As a Satanist, I mock and blaspheme religion because I see it as a hindrance to real-world application to human potential. I laugh at fairy tales, of any kind, because of what they have done and continue to do to the kinds of people who make a concerted effort to not use critical thinking skills.
There’s nothing inherently dangerous about blasphemy. However, it feels good. It feels good to raise a middle finger to the oppressive ideologies that have held so many individuals back, to put it lightly. How many people have died in the name of religion? Too many to really count. And for what? Unproven biases that make SOME people feel good about living in a universe that does not care about them.
THAT is why people mock religion. Not because they are “running from God.” There is no god to run from, no devil to fear, and no afterlife to pine for.
Anton Szandor Lavey "The Satanic Bible" (Publisher? Zondervan Press - how many Bibles/spiritual writings have come under the influence of Zondervan Press?) Zondervan Press is a founding member of the Evangelical Christian Publishers Association. NIV. Lavey, he said he wrote his book as a joke. His dying words? "I was wrong."
The qualifier used to describe the Eucharist as being the most sacred thing in the Catholic religion is inaccurate. It IS THE most sacred ‘thing’ (not just because Catholics believe it) as it IS the Body Blood Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
So refreshingly simple n true....in other words I agree. Love n blessings from Sydney Australia.
I’m a huge Ghost fan. I have some of their merchandise. But I don’t devote my life to them like some of their fans do that I see on Facebook groups. I still attend church every Sunday, partake in the sacrament, and have Heavenly Father in my life. It’s all a choice. I listen to Ghost for the entertainment. Ghost doesn’t focus on Satanism other than the “look.” They enjoy parodying the Catholic Church because of how the creator was raised in it. They don’t promote violence or anything scary.
Big fan of yours Brian. Great video too.
What are your thoughts on Christian Metal and rock?
ahaha loved the explanation about the upside down cross! thanks is so nice to confirm how dumb devil is!
i don't think you were really into that kind of music or even understands what it meant if you think that growling is used to look tough espcially for a band like opeth
Yeah he comes off as a poser who was into it for a little bit as a teen.
@@humanbean8590 you know what they say, if you’re not now you never were!
I do have to chime in say I enjoy some of hard rock and if you listen to the words, most of these singers are not singing about the Devil, example Black Sabbath War Pigs, a song about oppressive Government, brainwashing young minds, Government control over their people, Metallica, One, song about the horror of being a Soldier and coming home broken from the war, limbs gone, the mind tainted from War, Disturbed Sound of Silence, these songs are POWERFUL reminders of how a society can become easily swayed, and eventually oppressed by their Governments.
Great video but I disagree with the ice cream and sprinkles on bacon comparison. In cuisine, when you properly mix salty foods with sweet foods, you can create some absolutely tasty treats. Like a heavenly salted caramel chocolate bite.
Crowley died friendless, broke and drug-addicted. Next question?
When I was a lapsed Catholic I frequently listened to thrash metal bands like Slayer or Exodus
Now my favorite thrash metal band is Deliverance
Slayer is Catholic.
Ice cream and sprinkles on top of bacon actually sounds great! Almost anything with bacon for that matter!
True satanism exists and it is described within the pages of the Bible. It is the doctrine of Satan which Satan himself tells Eve in the Garden in Genesis 3:4-5: "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
And thus, the entirety of the satanic doctrine is this: that sin does not lead to death - and thus, making God a liar for saying that the penalty of sin is death.
When Eve chose to accept Satan's false doctrine as being true, she was also choosing to reject the word of God by disobeying the commandment of God and by choosing to believe that God is lying about the death penalty.
All false beliefs stem from this satanic doctrine which Satan told in the Garden and which Eve chose to believe, for Satan is the father of lies, as Jesus says in John 8:44: "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
Take note of how Jesus says how when Satan speaks a lie, he speaks of his own. This is because when someone speaks the Truth, the words they speak is the word of God; it is not their own. But when someone creates a lie, it is wholly of their own making. This is also why Satan is the father of lies, for his false doctrine is his seed (the seed of Satan mentioned in Genesis 3:15), which impregnates the mind and gives birth to false beliefs. This is why the Bible constantly refers to the adopting of foreign religious beliefs and practices as fornicating with the lesser gods of those beliefs, as one is accepting their seed (their seed being their false doctrine) which impregnates one's mind and corrupts it.
Thank you for this.
'he, his friends and the early followers suffered greatly, their deeds chronicled as holy martyrs.'
'then their numbers reached a great multitude and they slew'
'is it not he that sayed: if one smythes thyne left cheek giveth show him thyne right?'
(kitaab al quzari, a defence of the despised faith).
That's muddled.
@@kimfleury yes, it was written during the reconquista.
it's purpose was to attack both christians and muslims, yet slip under the watchfull eye of the inquisator.
you can insert any 'holy martyr' for a clearer reading
3:40 for the first three you mentioned, I am a-Theist, but not an-Anthropist.
With Snorre's timeline of Yngling dynasty from Sweden over Wermland to Norway up to St. Olaf, Oden would have been about the right generation, either for a Yeshu who was really disciple of Joshua ben Pekharia (the one Talmudists like to confuse with Jesus of Nazareth!), or for a Druid fleeing from Caesar and using Norse countries as a new territory for Druidism. In the former case, it is possible "Thorr, Jorthar Son" doesn't mean "Thunder, son of Earth" - the classic norse myths don't know any earth goddess - but "Thunder, son of THE Land" and that Christ was reminding the sons of Zebedee of their father having a less glorious carreer than that of a simple fisherman. If not in the eyes of Swedes, at least in the eyes of God.
Krishna may have been a pre-Flood hero, probably of the Cainite line. Read Pandavas as sons of Jabel and Kauravas as those of Tubal-Cain, that would make, arguably, Krishna Jubal. Also, Krishna means the same as Kush, so the post-Flood patriarch Kush may well have been named for a nickname of Jubal.
Brian, I wonder what you think of techno & house music. The real underground not pop edm. The roots are in black American soul & gospel, but those roots are pagan tribal. They overlapped Christian lyrics onto it, and keep the repetitive beats. It can be very uplifting and ‘spiritual’ but can get abstract and dark in tone. I’ve been into it for years but now questioning.
Great video. What's the name of the background music playing? You always have beautiful music in the background. Thank you!
The pentagram/pentacle symbolizes the 5 wounds of Christ. Both the inverted cross and pentagram/pentacle are encountered throughout Christendom.
Hello Brian, love your presentations, so a massive thank you, just one small thing as it were, we Catholics should try to be correct in all things, so the quote you begin this presentation with is from Thomas Moore an Irish writer, musician and lyricist, Not St. Thomas More, it is a common mistake that so many make, the important thing is it is still TRUE of course. AVE MARIA! Shalom.
Young people who are bereft of the TLM will search for it until they find it. I've been seeing more and more families and young people coming to Mass. I feel like I was literally ripped off. Because of (I guess Satan's influence with Vatican II) we suffered the new Mass, the churches that resembled conference rooms, the horrid, insipid showy music and guitar Mass and extreme lack of reverence were what I grew up with. Then came CITH and the churches were wreck-o-vated, pews and kneelers thrown out, statues and stained glass - gone, altar girls, etc. Thank God that evil era is on it's way out and because Christ has been brought back by Pres. Trump, I think we are in for an American renaissance!.
They're basically the new punks. Just a lot edgier.
Lol, no. As a LaVeyan/rational/theistic Satanist, the qualities that this video depicts me/us of having is pretty misrepresentative of possibly the majority of us. Our image is largely ruined by these edgy punks. I respect other religions, and I consider Satanism as more of a philosophy/set of ideologies. Although I’m not an atheist, so it’s still a religion to me.
James 1:5
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
What is this music in the opening of his videos??
At 2:40, the video opines that it could be that people join Satanism because they get a thrill out of the scariness of it. Where is this could be the case for some, after watching the movie "Hail Satan?" I realize many of their motivations are more self-centered and even have a hint of social reform. And might be more apropos if you use the argument that that motivation is from the modernist or humanist philosophy that you speak of in other videos. It is true that the movement of Satanism as a whole is reactionary. At least from the perspective of the movie, there is an attempt to hold a mirror up to the Christian identity within society. For better for worse, the act in the movie of trying to get their satanic prayer said at the courthouse and the people's response to it suggest from their perspective the limits of our plurality as a society. It would seem to me that like the perspective towards the Greco-Roman gods we should either ignore them or sharpen our virtues as a result of the presence of their thorn in our side.
Madness is the 3rd type of individuals identified in his "Thoughts" by a genius named Pascal.
What kind of music do you listen to now and what are your thoughts on Christian metal?
Brian Holdsworth is from Etown you know he has good taste in music
Where does Iron maiden stand in this thread?
There is laveyan satanism and the theological one, and so "atheist" satanism is the first that i mentioned.
and also the laveyan satanism is just the ideology of modern times, not being called by its proper name. Individualism, materialism, egocentrism, blasphemy, "freeing yourself", "tolerance" but not for everybody, tagging Catholicism as some relict of old, dark times and killing your soul - that is what young people are being fed with. And it is pure masonery.
This is a masterpiece!
I disagree. I think he misrepresents Satanism. As a LaVeyan/rational/atheistic-agnostic Satanist, I’m not most of the qualities he listed, and I respect other religions. I’m not anti-Christianity, I just don’t resonate with their ideologies about “Sin” and “asking god for forgiveness.”
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And you think those time-stamps counter my perspective? It doesn’t. I obviously watched the entire video before commenting. I don’t use the upside-down cross, Satanism isn’t solely a Christian hate group, and is a very diverse community. Also, Christianity has essentially metaphorically took the place of the Roman Empire in the present day. The religion fundamentally causes problems that conflict with today’s society. This is why we have atheists, agnostics, Satanists, humanists, etc. Ever heard of The Satanic Panic during the 80s and 90s? The crusades? Other conflicts fueled by religion? Etc. Has religion caused more harm than good to man? Should philosophies take the place of religion?