What is Poiesis?
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- We've made a few videos now, but we haven't quite explained the purpose of the channel. Our goal is tied to our name: Poiesis. But, what does "poiesis" even mean?
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What is Poiesis?
Thank you. We fully agree. That’s why we’re working on Technotlogy, inspired both by Heideggers notion of reconnecting poiesis and techne and Joseph Beuys concept of ‘Erweiterte Kunst’, Extended Art.
Excellent! I suggest that you all become familiar with the approach of Tetrads, developed by Marshall McLuhan and his son, Eric. This approach has been examined and advocated by current philosopher, Graham Harmen (sp?). What tetrads offer is an fourfold heuristic set of practices. It goes beyond the initial thinking of Heidegger.
Thank you for explaining poiesis
very helpful video! thank you so much!
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wow. This is a cool concept. Hmm... so if I understand correctly, you guys want to make everyone begin to understand the roots of our technologies (how they work, how they're made) again? That would require a stable, inclusive, and consistently updated public education infrastructure. The internet sounds like a good way to go, but how can this be integrated into our governmental structures to be a lasting institutional change?
I wouldn't say that it's a coincidence that the masses are disconnected from... the means of production (to produce technology)...
Do you have other social media handles? Instagram or Twitter?
We do! We're @poiesisacademy on insta and twitter (but we rarely post... Maybe we'll have to try harder to now!)
Thank you! Though I disagree with the theory, 5:28, that we actually 'can' choose certain of these technologies. Technology is actually a different species in my mind. We are humans. They are techno-logos. In that technologies have their own being. This becomes a discussion on AI Ethics.
Great thoughts. Thanks for sharing! What would you think of the idea of, say, if our society had very different values, the technologies we would create? I would think a society who is deeply rooted in nonviolence would not make nuclear weapons, but ours does. That's (I think) what that last point was trying to get at! Would be curious of your thoughts.
@@poiesis3390 But our society is firmly rooted in violence, because nature is violent; not all the time, but violence is a part of nature and we are a part of nature, and therefore we are sometimes violent. Not all of us, because society has developed outlets for our violence, like football - go Brady!!.
@@poiesis3390 Again, to assert that American society "is deeply rooted in nonviolence' is false. America is a very violent society, from it's art in film/tv to its sports in football/ice hockey and its laws, like legal abortion. Can anyone actually say that the operation of an abortion is nonviolent?
@@Cybervue Human race has two tendencies selfish and unselfish the poiesis that the selfish create is what we see today. The unselfish will always be hindered by the selfish. Therefore, we can see its true poiesis.
@@josemora9477 right and the majority of the “we” can’t control THEIR choices, and then we are left only with the biggest companies to choose from in our personal use of technology, and I’m not sure how we could get those people to change their values. I do hope I am underestimating the power of consumers, though.
To @cybervue
I agree with the point on violence, but of course, in the spirit of this video...There are copious behaviors in the animal kingdom and even mammals that we as humans find morally abhorrent or socially wrong, and would not ourselves perform, though maybe in an earlier time we had. Thankfully, we have the intellectual ability to choose and change, and we should use that to the best of our abilities. Not everyone needs an outlet for violent urges. I personally believe medical abortions are no more violent or gruesome than any other surgery, especially because it can be saving the life of the person carrying. Coerced death, by exclusion from a medical practice or legal threat, is no more violent than a “murder” as you see abortion.
technology as poiesis:
Applicable to modern technology ?
can you explain it ?
Absolutely - the "bringing into existence" aspect of poiesis (what I call "revealing") is sort of like inventing a technology. All the necessary parts were sitting around before, but the idea of the invention hadn't been revealed. Think of the "eureka" moment as a moment of poiesis; revealing; bringing into existence.
When we think of how we used to bring technologies into existence, it was much more obvious that there was a cooperative aspect of our revealing. Craftspeople would see where their resources come from (the earth, trees, seas, etc.), and we would have a relationship between us, the revealed technological idea (invention), and our environment. With modern technology, the "revealing" aspect of coming up with inventions is much more sinister. Modern technological poiesis is more concerned with seeing the world as a means to our ends - something to be harvested, rather than something to cooperate with.
We want to reclaim the act of revealing and direct it at this strange relationship we have with technology: to reveal these underlying thoughts behind how our technology works, what it does to us, and what we sacrifice in the name of "progress." Hopefully that helps :)
Thank you!
Thanks ! It seems interesting :)
Thank you for watching!
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Technology as Poiesis:Does modern technology bring-forth or challenge-forth
Can you explain it? Thanks❤
@@lean_lazy_monkey2012 What a cool question. Before I answer, I'd love to understand better what you mean by "challenge-forth". Can you elaborate?
How bout physis?
summary?
I'll more or less copy a comment we had below! We talk about technology as a "bringing into existence." This is how Martin Heidegger used the word "poiesis," which means "revealing." All the necessary parts were sitting around before, but the idea of the invention hadn't been revealed. Think of the "eureka" moment as a moment of poiesis, revealing, bringing into existence.
When we think of how we used to bring technologies into existence, it was much more obvious that there was a cooperative aspect of our revealing. Craftspeople would see where their resources come from (the earth, trees, seas, etc.), and we would have a relationship between us, the revealed technological idea (invention), and our environment. With modern technology, the "revealing" aspect of coming up with inventions is much more sinister. Modern technological poiesis is more concerned with seeing the world as a means to our ends - something to be harvested, rather than something to cooperate with.
We want to reclaim the act of revealing and direct it at this strange relationship we have with technology: to reveal these underlying thoughts behind how our technology works, what it does to us, and what we sacrifice in the name of "progress." Hopefully that helps :)
I thought it was something I was trying to get when I went out on a date, as in, "Is she gonna give me some poiesis tonight or will I end up dating lady five fingers?" I was hope something would be revealed, if you know what I mean. I really, wanted to connect with nature. Intimately.
Thanks for the laugh
I’m here because of the song “Google Poeises” (why is it like, plural?)
By James Ferraro
Hm yea it’s spelled the way I wrote it there, maybe I googled the wrong word lol
But this is interesting
Anyone here via 'Finite & Infinite Games'?
Kindly read The Bhagavad-Gītā As It Is, please. Hare KRSNA.