Did the same job but i used the Harley torque cam, S&S lifter cuffs and Vance & Hines FP3 tuner. Really liking the performance. Please be aware that Harley is now automatically blocking the powertrain warranty on all 17-18 bikes with aftermarket tuners. This is no longer up to the dealer, it happens automatically when they plug in the online technician tool even if it is just to read codes or program a key. IT does not fully void the warranty but there will be a flag in the system should you a need powertrain repair. HD will decide if it was caused by the tuner/tune used.
I noticed you used a dial-type torque wrench when torquing them down. I crack a head I had just ported when I was installing it using a click-type torque wrench while installing a pin for one of the tensioners at 18#/ft because the material was aluminum on my '02 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Really sucked and I learned to never used that type of torque wrench on aluminum, so good choice on your part.
Good video but I didn't see that you checked for pinion shaft runout. If it's not within spec, you would have had to continue with using chain gear setup. Hopefully everything turned out okay.
Thoroughly enjoyed your video. Someone asked about the lifter and you stayed with stock as they only had 50 miles on them. I also noticed that the lifter covers stayed on during the entire process. Were you able to keep them up inside the bores while removing the cam? I didn't see any magnets or devices holding them up in place when you removed the cam. I thought they might drop down into the cam chest when you pulled the cam out??
Just adding my 2 cents worth. What is with that torque wrench? Haven't seen one like that for years. Second you should only put on a few drops of locticte on the threads and not coat the entire threads. Glad the bike started and ran. I just do things differently
Great job mate. Riding 2018 Slim and I really hate the rattling chain (or whatever it is) in cam box. Did this sound disappeared after its replacement?? Big thx for answer.
Hi mate Can i ask, i get fatbob 2019 and i think already installed cam chest kit, it is a normal if the sound its more noisy i dont know its come from primary or at cam, please i hope you reply and give me suggestion, thanks a lot
If it has a can it might make a little more noise but not a lot. Some bikes have more noise than others. U can use a screwdriver like a stethoscope to try and listen to the engine and see where it’s coming from
Hey man great video. Just wondering did u do any head work? Replace the valve springs anything like that? And now that you have been running it for a little while how is it holding up? Any issues?
So no head work and stock valve springs, this cam is as much lift as you wanna go with stock parts. I plan to upgrade the valve springs and lifters when I go big bore on it. But I love the feel of this bike so far! It's was a killer upgrade and highly recommended!
I did my pipes, air cleaner, and fuel programmer. That wasn’t too bad, next is the cam, and bars. How do you like that 475, any significant performance increases that you can feel.
Sorry to doublepost on your video but where did you buy this stuff? SnS isn't letting people order shit directly anymore. I want the Cam and Tappets from SnS and half the products I was watching are now gone, and all their stuff is now "contact a dealer."
So gear drive is more reliable in the end, less wear parts than chain drive and more precise timing. But chain would work fine. If you're changing out the cam plate for a billet one then I would suggest checking your crank run-out so you know it's not out of spec. It's not as likely on the new M8 engines but it can still happen
Thanks for the video. When you put your cam gear on, did it pull the cam into the cam plate to a point it became alot more difficult to turn the cam? I just installed mine today, it will turn, but not by hand anymore...just wanted to make sure this was normal at least until it wears in the bushing a little.
Are you turning it by the back wheel? If so did u remove the spark plugs? It does get harder to turn cause u got a lot more rotating with it but. It shouldn't be too bad. If u know it's only the bushings causing the resistance than I wouldn't worry much, it should wear
@@TheMrJHSN spark plugs out and so are pushrods. Took the cam gear off and camshaft won't turn by hand. So I'm guessing it's just close fit in the bushing. Wish s an s tech responded as fast as you. I can't wait to get this fatbob back on the road.
@@harrytinsley1199 haha they're a lot bigger company than me but ya if u took off any possibly load and it's only binding in your Cam plate than you should be good. Did u make sure to put assembly lube on the bushings and cam? My camera battery died and didn't get 100% of everything on film but if u have instructions u shouldn't have missed anything
@@TheMrJHSN lots of lube was on it. Had a issue with the little key pushing in too far first try. But it's all lined up good now. Thanks for your help and videos.
@@harrytinsley1199 no problem man, ask anytime you have a question. The 475 is an incredible cam, I rode it all around the southern California area this last weekend and loved it. Made it into an animal!
Street Glide Special 2020 S & S 475G The problem is the cam sprocket backlash. Can I just install it in the case of a new car? The problem is, after disassembling, I have to order a gear with a large backlash. I'm worried
It's a killer cam. Great all around power, and also u can keep the same cam when going to a big bore later on, it makes it much more of a low end torque cam but it'll work just fine in a 124-128 set up!
@@TheMrJHSN I have same bike and now looking to order this S&S full Cam set up. How much better power than a stage 1 you would say ? Its not a cheap upgrade so I am curious go for stage 3 or stage 2 will be enough.
@@therythmoftheroad well if you're bike is pretty new your probably fine but it's good to do it while you're in there and the ones that come with the kit are much stronger so it's just a while you're in there thing!
Well I always encourage to pick up a wrench and start learning! It's really not too hard, some stuff is easier than others but if you take your time usually u can get it done 🤘
@@matthewlidel4324 Very nice! They're a great upgrade for these new engines. Got more videos coming for sure! Lots of front end and stereo work on the way
@@matthewlidel4324 I'd say do it! I'm thinking about wait til next year for more engine work, I wanna do the fuel Moto 128 kit, extremely nice stuff! If u haven't heard of them I'd. Give them a look, great prices and customer service for sure
S&S does not use a thick and thin O-Ring in their kits. The cam plate and the oil pump come with the same thin O-Ring. I tried using the stock thick OEM one on the S&S oil pump and the spigot for suctioning the oil from the crank cavity would not push in so I used the O-Rings that came in the kit.
OH GOD WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS WITHOUT GLOVES?! Your cam chest is going to have hand residue all over those parts and it's gonna heat up and tarnish them. I wanna do this kit except with the Chain version in a 107. Thanks for the video.
Chain version of the cam would definitely save a little extra work! I've been told you wanna change out the crankshaft pinion gear on the chain if you're in there cause the stock has a little slip from the factory. Good luck! Cam really opens the bike up and gives it back that Harley sound 🤘🤘
Excellent video man! I'm changing out the cam in my Fat Bob in the near future. I wish I had your skills. I'm gonna have a local shop do the install. Again, great job and that sounds sooo good!👍
How come when J&P cycles do there cam install they adjust the front cylinder valves to overlap and then fit and adjust the pushrods into the rear cylinder. Once this is done they set the rear to overlap and fit the front cylinder rods. there reason to this technique is that when one cylinder is on overlap the other cylinder with be on the base circles of the cam! The only difference between your installation and J&P's is your using gear driven cams and there using chain driven!
FXFBS_eNVy I gotcha. Thanks for the vid man. Are the gear driven cams a better set up? It’s only 100$ difference right now for the 124” kit with all cam chest complements.
There is some benefits to chain in some ways. It's quieter which helps them pass EPA noise restrictions. Also since mass producing crankshafts leaves for error in crankshaft run out, the chain is able to take those tolerances unlike gear drive. Harley has retained it's gear drive on the sportster Evo Motor, though I'm sure if it ever gets a major revamp I imagine that may change
Great Video content... but WTF is up with the horrible and I do mean HORRIBLE, MUSIC TRAC ... F*#@ ME!!! What did I ever do to you? ... oh my goodness 😳
The pump comes with assembly lube didn’t see a drop used?
lol me either and a lot of other mistakes
Did the same job but i used the Harley torque cam, S&S lifter cuffs and Vance & Hines FP3 tuner. Really liking the performance. Please be aware that Harley is now automatically blocking the powertrain warranty on all 17-18 bikes with aftermarket tuners. This is no longer up to the dealer, it happens automatically when they plug in the online technician tool even if it is just to read codes or program a key. IT does not fully void the warranty but there will be a flag in the system should you a need powertrain repair. HD will decide if it was caused by the tuner/tune used.
I just learned this myself, I was gonna have my cruise control turned on and they couldn't do it without voiding the warranty, shitty!
Harley warrant is a expwnsive piece of toilet paper anyways.
I noticed you used a dial-type torque wrench when torquing them down. I crack a head I had just ported when I was installing it using a click-type torque wrench while installing a pin for one of the tensioners at 18#/ft because the material was aluminum on my '02 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Really sucked and I learned to never used that type of torque wrench on aluminum, so good choice on your part.
Good video but I didn't see that you checked for pinion shaft runout. If it's not within spec, you would have had to continue with using chain gear setup. Hopefully everything turned out okay.
Thoroughly enjoyed your video. Someone asked about the lifter and you stayed with stock as they only had 50 miles on them. I also noticed that the lifter covers stayed on during the entire process. Were you able to keep them up inside the bores while removing the cam? I didn't see any magnets or devices holding them up in place when you removed the cam. I thought they might drop down into the cam chest when you pulled the cam out??
I hope you changed the cam bearings. Didn't hear you mention anything about it.
Yes I did change it out. Sadly I forgot to put the camera on when I did it.
What was the runout ?
@@jimscycleandautotn8508 35 thousandths
@@TheMrJHSN what did you do with that information?
Just adding my 2 cents worth. What is with that torque wrench? Haven't seen one like that for years. Second you should only put on a few drops of locticte on the threads and not coat the entire threads. Glad the bike started and ran. I just do things differently
Great job mate. Riding 2018 Slim and I really hate the rattling chain (or whatever it is) in cam box. Did this sound disappeared after its replacement?? Big thx for answer.
Yep! If You get the the right gear size then it meshes beautifully! I highly recommend it! Plus the extra power
Hi mate
Can i ask, i get fatbob 2019 and i think already installed cam chest kit, it is a normal if the sound its more noisy i dont know its come from primary or at cam, please i hope you reply and give me suggestion, thanks a lot
If it has a can it might make a little more noise but not a lot. Some bikes have more noise than others. U can use a screwdriver like a stethoscope to try and listen to the engine and see where it’s coming from
Running rich code after this
Have to tune afterwards right?
Yes definitely need a tune and tuner
@@TheMrJHSN Farting everywhere! Thanks for the response
Great video bud! Just please on the next one turn the background music down.
Hey man great video. Just wondering did u do any head work? Replace the valve springs anything like that? And now that you have been running it for a little while how is it holding up? Any issues?
So no head work and stock valve springs, this cam is as much lift as you wanna go with stock parts. I plan to upgrade the valve springs and lifters when I go big bore on it. But I love the feel of this bike so far! It's was a killer upgrade and highly recommended!
Great job, I wish I was savvy at that kind of motor work, I’d save some $$$
Just gotta go slow and follow instructions man, it's not too hard. Maybe u know a friend with some know how that can lend a hand 🤘
I did my pipes, air cleaner, and fuel programmer. That wasn’t too bad, next is the cam, and bars. How do you like that 475, any significant performance increases that you can feel.
@@donniebrazis awesome increase in power! Great sound and everything, cams are probably the best motor mod you can do on a Milwaukee 8 🤘
Sorry to doublepost on your video but where did you buy this stuff?
SnS isn't letting people order shit directly anymore.
I want the Cam and Tappets from SnS and half the products I was watching are now gone, and all their stuff is now "contact a dealer."
I believe I ordered most all this through FuelMoto! They usually have awesome prices too!
Why did you go with gear drive instead of chain? Don’t have that run off tool. Do I really need it?
So gear drive is more reliable in the end, less wear parts than chain drive and more precise timing. But chain would work fine. If you're changing out the cam plate for a billet one then I would suggest checking your crank run-out so you know it's not out of spec. It's not as likely on the new M8 engines but it can still happen
Thanks for the video. When you put your cam gear on, did it pull the cam into the cam plate to a point it became alot more difficult to turn the cam? I just installed mine today, it will turn, but not by hand anymore...just wanted to make sure this was normal at least until it wears in the bushing a little.
Are you turning it by the back wheel? If so did u remove the spark plugs? It does get harder to turn cause u got a lot more rotating with it but. It shouldn't be too bad. If u know it's only the bushings causing the resistance than I wouldn't worry much, it should wear
@@TheMrJHSN spark plugs out and so are pushrods. Took the cam gear off and camshaft won't turn by hand. So I'm guessing it's just close fit in the bushing. Wish s an s tech responded as fast as you. I can't wait to get this fatbob back on the road.
@@harrytinsley1199 haha they're a lot bigger company than me but ya if u took off any possibly load and it's only binding in your Cam plate than you should be good. Did u make sure to put assembly lube on the bushings and cam? My camera battery died and didn't get 100% of everything on film but if u have instructions u shouldn't have missed anything
@@TheMrJHSN lots of lube was on it. Had a issue with the little key pushing in too far first try. But it's all lined up good now. Thanks for your help and videos.
@@harrytinsley1199 no problem man, ask anytime you have a question. The 475 is an incredible cam, I rode it all around the southern California area this last weekend and loved it. Made it into an animal!
just curious. when you did the turns on the adjustable pushrods and then you let the lifts settle did you have to do anything else but wait? thanks
Nope. U just wait over night usually and see if the pushrods can spin freely
Street Glide Special 2020 S & S 475G
The problem is the cam sprocket backlash. Can I just install it in the case of a new car?
The problem is, after disassembling, I have to order a gear with a large backlash.
I'm worried
Yes that is the issue with gear drive. If you're concerned I would recommend chain drive
Did you measure backlash
@@Kim-ub1il yes. Mine was in spec
Great video man. Bike sounds good and I know it'll be eating up the pavement once you're finished
Thanks man!
Great video thinking about that cam for my new lowrider S
It's a killer cam. Great all around power, and also u can keep the same cam when going to a big bore later on, it makes it much more of a low end torque cam but it'll work just fine in a 124-128 set up!
Wats ur advice im avrage joe wanting to do it
It can be done, just gotta take your time and double check. Read instructions twice and just be sure when u do it all. It's not hard stuff honestly
U on instagram so i kan add u if i have ?
Tell us about performance how much you gain over all. How does it feel at the seat driving with a stage 2.
At first it felt very fast. But now I have upgrade to a 131 S&S Stroker that's much faster. Still would like more power
@@TheMrJHSN I have same bike and now looking to order this S&S full Cam set up. How much better power than a stage 1 you would say ? Its not a cheap upgrade so I am curious go for stage 3 or stage 2 will be enough.
@@amg5795 I'd say go big bore. it's a noticeable upgrade but most likely you'll end up going to the big bore kit in the end
@@TheMrJHSN S&S ? What would be the price ?
@@TheMrJHSN By the way which cam is this 475G or 475C ?
What’s the max crank run out for the gear drive? This is a very important step that some may not no.
It is 5 thousandths. It will tell you in the S&S install instructions
FXFBS_eNVy wow! That’s a lot, badass. Thanks.
No, thats for their oil pump. Max is .003 for gear drive
Are there any specialty tools needed for the install?
U want the can bearing puller and a dial gauge to check you're run out. And that's it!
FXFBS_eNVy thanks! Also, why do you need to change the cam bearing?
@@therythmoftheroad well if you're bike is pretty new your probably fine but it's good to do it while you're in there and the ones that come with the kit are much stronger so it's just a while you're in there thing!
Sick video, love the work that went into this
Thanks bro!
I kinda wish I knew how to do this stuff. The parts aren't very expensive, but I have no experience as a mechanic edit: subbed
Well I always encourage to pick up a wrench and start learning! It's really not too hard, some stuff is easier than others but if you take your time usually u can get it done 🤘
Having a service manual goes a long way too...
Its cake, grab your balls, beer and a service manual. You got this.
You might want to clean that pump first just a thought.
i see lots of mistakes here
Fucking BADASS! (in shadetree surgeon voice)
What was your crankshaft runout.?
It was only 3 thousandths 👌👌 most M8s have came from the factory with very little run out, much better than the old twin cams
FXFBS_eNVy I put the fueling oil pump and cam plate in my M8 mine was 3 also great video buddy thanks for sharing.
@@matthewlidel4324
Very nice! They're a great upgrade for these new engines. Got more videos coming for sure! Lots of front end and stereo work on the way
FXFBS_eNVy I am thinking about doing gear drive cam and 117 kit next.
@@matthewlidel4324 I'd say do it! I'm thinking about wait til next year for more engine work, I wanna do the fuel Moto 128 kit, extremely nice stuff! If u haven't heard of them I'd. Give them a look, great prices and customer service for sure
Amazing, boss.
Could that be a SOFTAIL? Good job! BTW what is with the big boy voice?
Lol itsnhowni talk when I open my mouth
The video should be corrected, the thick oring goes behind pump, thin oring goes behind cam plate ;)
S&S does not use a thick and thin O-Ring in their kits. The cam plate and the oil pump come with the same thin O-Ring. I tried using the stock thick OEM one on the S&S oil pump and the spigot for suctioning the oil from the crank cavity would not push in so I used the O-Rings that came in the kit.
Good shot my dude
Thanks man!
OH GOD WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS WITHOUT GLOVES?! Your cam chest is going to have hand residue all over those parts and it's gonna heat up and tarnish them.
I wanna do this kit except with the Chain version in a 107. Thanks for the video.
Chain version of the cam would definitely save a little extra work! I've been told you wanna change out the crankshaft pinion gear on the chain if you're in there cause the stock has a little slip from the factory. Good luck! Cam really opens the bike up and gives it back that Harley sound 🤘🤘
FranBunnyFFXII Put that joint down bro... it’s no big deal,..
thats the dumbest shit i ever heard
Excellent video man! I'm changing out the cam in my Fat Bob in the near future. I wish I had your skills. I'm gonna have a local shop do the install. Again, great job and that sounds sooo good!👍
You do whatever u gotta do to get it to rip just the way u want it!
How come when J&P cycles do there cam install they adjust the front cylinder valves to overlap and then fit and adjust the pushrods into the rear cylinder. Once this is done they set the rear to overlap and fit the front cylinder rods. there reason to this technique is that when one cylinder is on overlap the other cylinder with be on the base circles of the cam!
The only difference between your installation and J&P's is your using gear driven cams and there using chain driven!
You didnt check the gear back lash
I did check it but it wasn't in the video
@@TheMrJHSN what was it , just done one and i need undersize gear
@@allan9584able ibelieve mine was 36 thousandths
Well done man
Thanks a lot man glad you liked it!
What did you do for lifters?
I decided not to change them, they only had about 50 miles on them. I'll be changing them the next time I'm in the engine though 👌
@@TheMrJHSN big mistake
@@roncoburn7771 I had no issues at all. Switched to another low lift cam
Texas City?
What?
FXFBS_eNVy that maroon shirt has the logo of a town south of where I grew up.
@@gtownsurfcody haha I believe it's a company called troll co and it says #working harder than an ugly stripper" 😂
@@gtownsurfcody they might have copied the logo idk haha
FXFBS_eNVy I gotcha. Thanks for the vid man. Are the gear driven cams a better set up? It’s only 100$ difference right now for the 124” kit with all cam chest complements.
Got a new subscriber here.
and pre lube it
Harley should be Bent over still using cam chains... service rort so typical with HD $$$$$
There is some benefits to chain in some ways. It's quieter which helps them pass EPA noise restrictions. Also since mass producing crankshafts leaves for error in crankshaft run out, the chain is able to take those tolerances unlike gear drive. Harley has retained it's gear drive on the sportster Evo Motor, though I'm sure if it ever gets a major revamp I imagine that may change
Great Video content... but WTF is up with the horrible and I do mean HORRIBLE, MUSIC TRAC ... F*#@ ME!!! What did I ever do to you? ... oh my goodness 😳
Too much noise and music.
You covered the most unnecessary details and skipped over the important details. Wth