I had the privilege to see this movie in theatres way back in 1999. I was the perfect age, 10. No words can describe how thrilling and emotionally moving this film was to me. I still consider hands down without a doubt one of greatest cinematic experiences of my life (right up there with the lotr trilogy and Spider-Man 1). Why this film flopped I have no idea. The trailer looked awesome, so I don't know why too many people didn't make it to the cinema, but as predicted, it has gained lots of success since then. An absolute classic! Thank you Brad Bird!
It was rereleased for one time in honor of the signature edition back in 2015 but since then there hasn’t been one like with fathom events or anything like that.
Neither Fantasia nor Citizen Kane were appreciated when they were released. It was generations later that the public saw them as classics and their re-release were awarded with high BO numbers. I hope the same will be said for this wonderful film.
38:44 Even with unrendered CG of the Giant and rough animation of Hogarth, the Souls Don't Die scene still has the emotional impact it has on audiences around the world.
this is exactly what i was looking for. Ive gone through a lot in the last few years and i sat down and rewatched this film. Only reason i ever saw it on VHS was because my mom's coworker donated it to her when i was very little, since we had nothing at all living in a podunk town in east jesus nowhere tennessee, and the only tapes we had was either my dad's goodbye before he went off to war, and old copies of the little rascal's he left behind. I wish i could have been old enough to have seen this film in theaters, how wonderful that must have been. This film changed me, and is a cornerstone of who i am, down to getting my name changed. thank you for posting this online, anything to know about this film should be carefully documented, archived and distributed, because this film has made my life all the better, and has given me informed ideas on morality, life, and values.
I love this story. Just rewatched in theaters for its 25th anniversary re-release and got to bring my 21 year old younger brother who’d never seen it. It was such a joy and we all cried when it was over. I saw it in 1999 on vhs and have watched it since then on my blu-ray copy but never on the big screen. What a film! It’s pure magic
@@cathleenmoyle1476 I can understand how this kind of stuff happens, its possible, a movie like this, the backstory of this movie's production, it connects people. The point is that the movie itself was made with soul, a lot of people do appreciate and look up to that. They were just hoping to make a movie that people can sympathize or relate to, it's simple that some people value the flim more than others
It's so interesting to see how After Effects was used way back then even though it was pretty new at that point. Thanks for making this available, it was great!
Thanks for uploading this. I wish there were the composer Michael Kamen's scoring footages as well, but overall, very good doc to understand what was really happened to Brad Bird's classic animation.
12:30 Warner Bros hired Pete Townsend to write songs for the movie before Brad Bird became the director. And similar, Disney changed the musical Kingdom of the Sun into the buddy comedy The Emperor's New Groove most of the singer Sting's songs being cut as well.
The iron giant: bombs because warner bros gave little to no attention to be a hit. 20 years later The lego movie 2: warner bros had faith for this movie to be a hit only for it to be a bomb causing the lego group leaving warner bros. Dont you hate when history repeat itself.
Drew McWeeny was absolutely fucking right! This is not a movie that I like casually, it is a movie that I love so damn much, and that I want to scream from the rooftops about how brilliant it is. I constantly dream of the day where I head off to school and they play this movie, I constantly dream of having the time with someone willing to listen to just spout every single thing that I love about this movie, and I even dream, of some day, maybe, trying to get a group of people together to just animate the Giant being a swell helpful Giant after the events of the movie, and maybe finding his way back to Hogarth. This masterpiece never leaves my mind, any time I hear giant, iron, rock, tree, I think of it, any time I see transmission towers, I think of it! I love this movie, and I would be honoured to shake the hand of all who worked on it.
Bird has admitted since then, that he should have given a second thought to delaying the movie. But Warners probably would’ve still fucked it up and just released it straight to video.
I remember the first time I saw the iron giant! it was on nickelodeon of all places! and I was able to just see the ending! but I begged my parents to order the dvd version that night! because I wanted to see the rest of the movie! it was late 2000s early 2010s so I don't think smart tv's and being able to play something back on a tv was a thing back then! but I was determined to watch the rest of that movie! not a single movie that I saw on tv had this kind of effect on me before or since! it's truly one of my favorite movies!💗💗💗💗💗🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖
If I was old enough at the time of iron giant’s release I definitely would’ve seen it in theaters. I was 2 at the time and was first exposed to it when Cartoon Network did 24 hour marathons of it for thanksgiving. Which I dunno why thanksgiving specifically (given it has little to nothing to do with it). But that first exposed me to it and as I got older I got to appreciate it much more.
"Killed by gun violence." "When you shoot somebody, you're not just killing that person..." So the instrument somehow makes the death of his sister worse? Her husband wouldn't have done it another way? To make that the emphasis is astounding.
Uouu incrível como Guilherme Del Toro realmente estava certo. Esse filme se tornou um clássico. Esse filme é 1000 vezes melhor que muitos filmes da Disney hoje em dia. Eu lembro de assistir 7000000 de vezes e todas eu ficar impressionado.
When did the inbetweening, inking, coloring, bg art, compositing etc happen? I'm not sure why so many animation documentaries skip this part and just focus on the key-animation =/
I remember thinking that the storyboards were oddly dynamic when I was a kid! I never really thought about it until now, but I don’t really remember seeing anything like it until… The Incredibles storyboards… which Brad Bird also worked on! It’s cool that After Effects is pretty much used in the same way to this day.
I see Bird doing an enitre animated film about a young animator like himself trying to survive ina place like Disney, only to realize that he needs to stop trying to emulate them and do his own thing; it could animated like a Disney film for the first half to show symbolize how he's under their looming shadow, then the second half could be uniquely animated to symbolize him breaking away from that. If done right, it could stand among The Iron Giant as his best film
35:47 This should have been a red flag. Brad flat out admits he has no idea how to promote his ideas. What is an executive at WB supposed to think if he saw this? At least with Quest for Camelot there was a successful precedent. But it bombed anyway so how is Warner Bros. supposed to believe in the Iron Giant seriously when it’s own Disney imitation failed?
Mainly I think the biggest disaster they made making the film was not setting the release date sooner so that people could properly prepare for it. If it were me, I'd set the release date as soon as Brad was given that green light back in December 1996/January 1997.
@@wildethang93 I don’t think it would have mattered. The Iron Giant was going against every precedent set by previous animated films at the time. It was not a fantasy musical which was the only way a hand drawn movie was making money. WB was incompetent but if Brad Bird showed more prudence maybe they could have taken a bigger leap of faith with the film.
I agree however this was the first film he directed most first time directors don't start big until they go onto their careers. Its the same with Brad Bird the movie is fantastic and there is alot of passion that went to it but its both sides to how it was marketed. You have a company like WB that should have known they could gave that film a better marketing campaign even if their last movie was a disappointment then that lead to brad bird who now was promised alot of things to keep the film afloat to the public and thought he could hold onto their promises but in the end the film suffered because of WB's poor performance. That's why the 90's was such a weird era because hollywood focused heavily on trends especially with animation whatever disney did that was successful every company did the same thing.
I had the privilege to see this movie in theatres way back in 1999. I was the perfect age, 10. No words can describe how thrilling and emotionally moving this film was to me. I still consider hands down without a doubt one of greatest cinematic experiences of my life (right up there with the lotr trilogy and Spider-Man 1). Why this film flopped I have no idea. The trailer looked awesome, so I don't know why too many people didn't make it to the cinema, but as predicted, it has gained lots of success since then. An absolute classic! Thank you Brad Bird!
Your childhood was in the 90s
My birth was in the 90s
Lucky
We are making a sequel. Check it out!
If the iron giant ever returns to theaters as a re-released, I’ll pay good money for it and the room will be packed
I would see it at AMC Deer Valley 17.
It was rereleased for one time in honor of the signature edition back in 2015 but since then there hasn’t been one like with fathom events or anything like that.
I saw it recently and my friend started crying at the end (as one should)
😮@@nicholasdruce5346
Shed a tear at Guillermo del toro quote the mans a Nationala treasure
The Mexican head-canon is that he smells like pancakes always. There’s no proof, but also no doubt.
@@MarigumilikesartMexican head-canon im fkin dead 😂😂
Neither Fantasia nor Citizen Kane were appreciated when they were released. It was generations later that the public saw them as classics and their re-release were awarded with high BO numbers. I hope the same will be said for this wonderful film.
38:44 Even with unrendered CG of the Giant and rough animation of Hogarth, the Souls Don't Die scene still has the emotional impact it has on audiences around the world.
this is exactly what i was looking for. Ive gone through a lot in the last few years and i sat down and rewatched this film. Only reason i ever saw it on VHS was because my mom's coworker donated it to her when i was very little, since we had nothing at all living in a podunk town in east jesus nowhere tennessee, and the only tapes we had was either my dad's goodbye before he went off to war, and old copies of the little rascal's he left behind. I wish i could have been old enough to have seen this film in theaters, how wonderful that must have been.
This film changed me, and is a cornerstone of who i am, down to getting my name changed. thank you for posting this online, anything to know about this film should be carefully documented, archived and distributed, because this film has made my life all the better, and has given me informed ideas on morality, life, and values.
I love this story. Just rewatched in theaters for its 25th anniversary re-release and got to bring my 21 year old younger brother who’d never seen it. It was such a joy and we all cried when it was over. I saw it in 1999 on vhs and have watched it since then on my blu-ray copy but never on the big screen.
What a film! It’s pure magic
How did it change you, your life, morality, and values?
And if it's okay to ask... where's your father?
@@cathleenmoyle1476 I can understand how this kind of stuff happens, its possible, a movie like this, the backstory of this movie's production, it connects people. The point is that the movie itself was made with soul, a lot of people do appreciate and look up to that. They were just hoping to make a movie that people can sympathize or relate to, it's simple that some people value the flim more than others
@@starbreakeranimations4528 I know that. I was just asking how, like examples...
@@cathleenmoyle1476 why?
Brad Bird is a wonderful animation director!
Yes, yes he is.
And live action
What I love about his animated films are that they are very intelligent and that they appeal to both adults and kids.
It's so interesting to see how After Effects was used way back then even though it was pretty new at that point. Thanks for making this available, it was great!
What great insight to the making of one of my favourite animated films. This delivered more than I was expecting. Thanks.
He’s actually making Ray Gunn now
Thanks for uploading this. I wish there were the composer Michael Kamen's scoring footages as well, but overall, very good doc to understand what was really happened to Brad Bird's classic animation.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is a truly wonderful documentary for one of the best movies out there.
Ray Gunn is finally being made
Hopefully it’s brad’s best film yet :)
I was like 'oh this is long, maybe I'll just watch a few minutes..' and then I watched the whole almost hour. I have no regrets
Misha was right, this was a bop of inspiration!
12:30 Warner Bros hired Pete Townsend to write songs for the movie before Brad Bird became the director.
And similar, Disney changed the musical Kingdom of the Sun into the buddy comedy The Emperor's New Groove most of the singer Sting's songs being cut as well.
The iron giant: bombs because warner bros gave little to no attention to be a hit.
20 years later
The lego movie 2: warner bros had faith for this movie to be a hit only for it to be a bomb causing the lego group leaving warner bros.
Dont you hate when history repeat itself.
Drew McWeeny was absolutely fucking right! This is not a movie that I like casually, it is a movie that I love so damn much, and that I want to scream from the rooftops about how brilliant it is. I constantly dream of the day where I head off to school and they play this movie, I constantly dream of having the time with someone willing to listen to just spout every single thing that I love about this movie, and I even dream, of some day, maybe, trying to get a group of people together to just animate the Giant being a swell helpful Giant after the events of the movie, and maybe finding his way back to Hogarth. This masterpiece never leaves my mind, any time I hear giant, iron, rock, tree, I think of it, any time I see transmission towers, I think of it! I love this movie, and I would be honoured to shake the hand of all who worked on it.
Best project I've ever worked on.
Thanks for helping to make this film!
Thankyou
what department did you work in?
@@siskavard Animation. I was one of the animators on it. :)
Thanks for helping to make my favorite animated film! 🙂Whom did you animate, or was it several?
Thanks for uploading the doc. Bittersweet journey, that yielded a timeless treasure.
This documentary is so well made and informative
I hope one day they make a bio pic movie about Brad bird's career 🔥
The big issue was the 4 months time frame for promo. If only they waited till spring of 2000 and competed with Disney’s Dinosaur… Just imagine
Bird has admitted since then, that he should have given a second thought to delaying the movie. But Warners probably would’ve still fucked it up and just released it straight to video.
The Incredibles would have been a 2D Warner bros movie, damn.
Thanks for this I love full on animation documentaries
I remember the first time I saw the iron giant! it was on nickelodeon of all places! and I was able to just see the ending! but I begged my parents to order the dvd version that night! because I wanted to see the rest of the movie! it was late 2000s early 2010s so I don't think smart tv's and being able to play something back on a tv was a thing back then! but I was determined to watch the rest of that movie! not a single movie that I saw on tv had this kind of effect on me before or since! it's truly one of my favorite movies!💗💗💗💗💗🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖
46:33 Is the best part.
Brad Bird went on to do The Incredibles for Disney under Pixar
Damn i just want to see a doc series on him working on Incredibles and Ratatouille since Ratatouille didn't even have an audio commentary WHICH SUCKS
Thank you for uploading this! I wanted to see this documentary since I heard of its existence, but couldn't find it. So, thanks!
Just watched it for the first time tonight and loved it. This documentary is very interesting so thanks!
If I was old enough at the time of iron giant’s release I definitely would’ve seen it in theaters. I was 2 at the time and was first exposed to it when Cartoon Network did 24 hour marathons of it for thanksgiving. Which I dunno why thanksgiving specifically (given it has little to nothing to do with it). But that first exposed me to it and as I got older I got to appreciate it much more.
If I had a Time Machine. I would go back to when this masterpiece was released, to experience it the right way.
I would also smack some sense into WB to have more faith in the movie prior to its release or convince Brad Bird to reconsider delaying the movie.
"Killed by gun violence." "When you shoot somebody, you're not just killing that person..." So the instrument somehow makes the death of his sister worse? Her husband wouldn't have done it another way? To make that the emphasis is astounding.
I adore The Iron Giant
16:26-16:33 Pre-Spiderverse Sony Pictures Animation in a nutshell
Uouu incrível como Guilherme Del Toro realmente estava certo. Esse filme se tornou um clássico. Esse filme é 1000 vezes melhor que muitos filmes da Disney hoje em dia. Eu lembro de assistir 7000000 de vezes e todas eu ficar impressionado.
When did the inbetweening, inking, coloring, bg art, compositing etc happen? I'm not sure why so many animation documentaries skip this part and just focus on the key-animation =/
Because these departments are not interesting to go over, that's all.
Brad Bird has outdone himself.
Yes, yes he has.
I remember thinking that the storyboards were oddly dynamic when I was a kid! I never really thought about it until now, but I don’t really remember seeing anything like it until… The Incredibles storyboards… which Brad Bird also worked on! It’s cool that After Effects is pretty much used in the same way to this day.
I enjoyed it a lot! Its always interesting to see what stayd behind the great movies
12:28, with the I Feel Good test animation for Shrek found. I wished this test animation in full could be found.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank youuuuu
8:15 Sad
I see Bird doing an enitre animated film about a young animator like himself trying to survive ina place like Disney, only to realize that he needs to stop trying to emulate them and do his own thing; it could animated like a Disney film for the first half to show symbolize how he's under their looming shadow, then the second half could be uniquely animated to symbolize him breaking away from that. If done right, it could stand among The Iron Giant as his best film
Wonderful
I knew this was an underdog movie but jeez
Geez, and I thought Disney's business practices were bad.
36:05 🤣
Music:Michael Kamen(1999)
1957
This shows WBs true colors
35:47 This should have been a red flag. Brad flat out admits he has no idea how to promote his ideas. What is an executive at WB supposed to think if he saw this?
At least with Quest for Camelot there was a successful precedent. But it bombed anyway so how is Warner Bros. supposed to believe in the Iron Giant seriously when it’s own Disney imitation failed?
Mainly I think the biggest disaster they made making the film was not setting the release date sooner so that people could properly prepare for it. If it were me, I'd set the release date as soon as Brad was given that green light back in December 1996/January 1997.
@@wildethang93 I don’t think it would have mattered. The Iron Giant was going against every precedent set by previous animated films at the time. It was not a fantasy musical which was the only way a hand drawn movie was making money. WB was incompetent but if Brad Bird showed more prudence maybe they could have taken a bigger leap of faith with the film.
I agree however this was the first film he directed most first time directors don't start big until they go onto their careers. Its the same with Brad Bird the movie is fantastic and there is alot of passion that went to it but its both sides to how it was marketed. You have a company like WB that should have known they could gave that film a better marketing campaign even if their last movie was a disappointment then that lead to brad bird who now was promised alot of things to keep the film afloat to the public and thought he could hold onto their promises but in the end the film suffered because of WB's poor performance. That's why the 90's was such a weird era because hollywood focused heavily on trends especially with animation whatever disney did that was successful every company did the same thing.
19:07 "I'm working to the bone"
A young Lauren Faust was in it
Where?
@@MrTimshellscherber She Was An Animator For The Film
@@schweenieboy I know that.
This on the DVD version, or exclusively blu ray?
I think it may be Blu-Ray only, but I retrieved it from UA-cam JUST as it was being taken down.
AMC Century City had 14 Auditoriums, not 10.
35:30 39:59 46:50 47:34
Weird thumbnail
How Brad and Allison fought.
ua-cam.com/video/KTpIfNU0PQA/v-deo.html