For the Shanks awkward interaction with the Red Hawk / Boa, I had it wrong! Here’s how the sequence is supposed to go: attacking players on attack ability defending players on attack ability attacking players on enter ability doffy leader puitting jinbe down shanks -1 jinbe jinbe plays boa boa effect defending player chooses blockers/counters
The red hawk was not revealed, the shanks used his leader effekt on the jinbe, to prepare for the red hawk play. The shanks leader effekt has to be used on attack, the sequence is that the doffy leader effekt happens, then the shanks leader effekt has to be used (or not used), then the played characters on play effekt happens. No mistakes were made by any player this just the correct sequence of effekts. Of course the decision to minus the jinbe implies an existence of red hawk.
Thank you for mentioning the leader effect!! I think I forgot to mention that, because you’re right it’s kinda the foundation to the whole situation. Doing these live and one take has it downsides LOL
Are we sure that’s per the rules I thought all effects happen before Shanks gets to announce where the minus goes. So per example the video my understanding is that, when Doffy swings he activates his leader effect to get a character from the top of his deck that is a 4 cost or lower 7 warlords. Then if that card has a on play effect due to this action the player must resolve it before the Shanks player still has an opportunity to resolve his ability. Because all abilities that happen on the respective players turn must resolve before the other players. Hence why a on play effect that kills sugar doesn’t activate her ability to rest one of your characters. It’s why if you do this SAME scenario and instead there’s a Sugar on the Opposite end of Doffy and you leader ability a Jinbe into a Law bouncing 1 of your 1 drops then bouncing Sugar she doesn’t get the opportunity to rest something still.
@@its2kiwi780no. When doffy leader attack, shanks have to decide if he wanna use leader ability before he call a target for jinbe. Example , if he called jinbe by top deck , BONNIE LEADER CANNOT REST THE CARD CALLED BY JINBE. Hope you understand.
Yes. On plays happen after when attacking. Also turn player before defending player. So it would be Doffy effect -> play jinbe -> shanks decides if he wants to use effect -> Jinbe effect -> blocker step -> counter step (red hawk)
Thanks for providing commentary for these matchups. It helps a lot for new players like me understand the combos or thought process on how to play out the round/match. Makes us think theoretically/hoptothetically for when we actually play in person.
He has to anounce the Shanks leader effect before the Boa selects the target for the don. Order goes like this (doffy leader plays Jinbe, shanks effect minus something then jinbe effect happens. So the shanks player did it properly he had no other option
Here’s the correct sequence! attacking players on attack ability defending players on attack ability attacking players on enter ability doffy leader puitting jinbe down shanks -1 jinbe jinbe plays boa boa effect defending player chooses blockers/counters
The Doffy one because of that leather jacket if you ever go up against an opponent with a lot of drip just forfeit! But in all honestly Shanks did so good I didn’t have much faith in the deck against Doffy but he proved the power of it.
100%! It's not a super favored matchup, but it's close enough that your skill & maybe some luck can power you through consistently like an event of this caliber
On the Doffy players 6 don turn the shanks player technically misplayed. He used his leader effect too early to counter out of a 7k swing with a 2k counter. If he holds leader effect and takes that hit when the doffy players swings 8k lead and plays the law he can use shanks effect to - 1k the played law. The doffy player then most likely bounces the law to hand however its still one less body on field. The shanks player should also just red hawk regardless of wether its ko'ing a 5k base or not. Had he ko'd the buggy at any point in the 2 turns he had the chance then its 2k less counter in the doffy players hand, meaning he cant protect 1 extra body later in the game (He lost while red hawk still in hand also). Ultimately Doffy player played well and deserved to win. Shanks player played poorly and got dunked on.
Lol no that was not a misplay at all. He couldn't possibly throw out 3k in counter to block out Boa (he will have to discard Ben, which means he has no 7 don play). Your play is based on information you got after seeing what is on the Doffy's hand. If Shanks didnt counter out from Boa's attack, the Doffy player can simply just swing 5k with leader, and then play a 4c from his hand and Shanks will have 0 opportunity to play Red Hawk. However, I do agree the Shanks player was too greedy and should have just used Red Hawk to counter out the leader attack, regardless whether he can KO a character or not.
@velvetstigma4961 what U have said is not correct and is actually worse than what he did rofl. 1st you take the boa swing. Then if he decides to swing only 5k at least U can use shanks effect to stop the attack for free. Keeping the 2k he used on the boa in hand. The doffy player then had less in hand if he hard plays something.
With the unlucky opening hand and draw situation for the Shanks player I am still shocked that these tournaments don't do a best of 3 or whatever for final matches.
You better not stop me from commenting on a number of videos to make sure I didn’t miss commenting for my chance at a play mat!! And if you did… well, not sure I could do much
So close, yet he ended up being ran over y the Doffy and multiple Jinbes But that is the problem of realying on the late game, if they are too agroo/go wide, you're going to have a hard time surviving till you can counterattack And the Doffy played arround the Red Hawk well too
*sigh* man i was really hoping to see Shanks take the win, but that Doffy player just saw all his pieces. But an amazing game nonetheless. I do like the Shanks deck its a nice different take on it, though a do believe the pure red-haired pirate's is the better way to play it.
It’s a weird balance, right? I think several of your black techs are still good into doffy, but yeah it’s impossible to be ready for all the matchups in this meta
@@atrocioustcg Imo Marco and Ace and no searchers combined is not very good, I think black isn't THAT bad of a matchup to warrant this amount of tech at the cost of general playability. Then again I'm not a pro, maybe their deck is based on something I'm not seeing here
Nice try shanks, good game dofla. I do think the same, why shanks to hasty on his leader effect, but when i read the comment now i know the correct sequencing. But why dont just play the red hawk since it already known and next turn keep set don open so opponent will think confused if you still have it or not.. Keep the red hawk and dofla keep stackin don lol😂
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For the Shanks awkward interaction with the Red Hawk / Boa, I had it wrong! Here’s how the sequence is supposed to go:
attacking players on attack ability
defending players on attack ability
attacking players on enter ability
doffy leader puitting jinbe down
shanks -1 jinbe
jinbe plays boa
boa effect
defending player chooses blockers/counters
The red hawk was not revealed, the shanks used his leader effekt on the jinbe, to prepare for the red hawk play. The shanks leader effekt has to be used on attack, the sequence is that the doffy leader effekt happens, then the shanks leader effekt has to be used (or not used), then the played characters on play effekt happens. No mistakes were made by any player this just the correct sequence of effekts. Of course the decision to minus the jinbe implies an existence of red hawk.
Thank you for mentioning the leader effect!! I think I forgot to mention that, because you’re right it’s kinda the foundation to the whole situation. Doing these live and one take has it downsides LOL
*effect
Are we sure that’s per the rules I thought all effects happen before Shanks gets to announce where the minus goes. So per example the video my understanding is that, when Doffy swings he activates his leader effect to get a character from the top of his deck that is a 4 cost or lower 7 warlords. Then if that card has a on play effect due to this action the player must resolve it before the Shanks player still has an opportunity to resolve his ability. Because all abilities that happen on the respective players turn must resolve before the other players. Hence why a on play effect that kills sugar doesn’t activate her ability to rest one of your characters. It’s why if you do this SAME scenario and instead there’s a Sugar on the Opposite end of Doffy and you leader ability a Jinbe into a Law bouncing 1 of your 1 drops then bouncing Sugar she doesn’t get the opportunity to rest something still.
@@its2kiwi780no. When doffy leader attack, shanks have to decide if he wanna use leader ability before he call a target for jinbe. Example , if he called jinbe by top deck , BONNIE LEADER CANNOT REST THE CARD CALLED BY JINBE. Hope you understand.
Yes. On plays happen after when attacking. Also turn player before defending player.
So it would be Doffy effect -> play jinbe -> shanks decides if he wants to use effect -> Jinbe effect -> blocker step -> counter step (red hawk)
Thanks for providing commentary for these matchups. It helps a lot for new players like me understand the combos or thought process on how to play out the round/match.
Makes us think theoretically/hoptothetically for when we actually play in person.
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I really enjoy your commentary, I am just getting into OPTCG and your channel has been great to watch and learn the meta. Thanks!
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Found this channel a few days ago and its super helpful to watch these to learn how others play the varies situations
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I love seeing the new leaders play against some stronger decks
Exactly!! I hope OP10 is similar
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Nice to not see 4 Doffy mirrors in a row at least
100%. Reminds me of the RP Law days D:
Shanks had such a good run
But a Top2 is nothing to be ashamed of 👌
AGREE he did fantastic this event
Thanks for providing English content for these tournaments.
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He has to anounce the Shanks leader effect before the Boa selects the target for the don. Order goes like this (doffy leader plays Jinbe, shanks effect minus something then jinbe effect happens. So the shanks player did it properly he had no other option
Yes!!! Apologies, I didn’t know that’s how the sequence went. Not super obvious i feel like to the average player, very cool
I’m new to the game so it’s nice to get a better perspective on what’s going
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Looking forward to Shanks in OP09! Been running him on the sim and having a lot of fun!
It’s such a neat deck!!
It was hard to see the shanks not have any midgame, I think that's why I like the uta searcher more in shanks. Anyways great commentation as always!
Thank you!!! It's such a neat deck
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Holy that was quick, Doffy was all gas and I DIDNT GET TO SEE 10 DROP SHANKS NOOOOO
Also thanks Dueling Guard~
The Shanks at least made an appearance in the previous matches D:
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Oh I don’t host!!!! The official livestream is in the description, I just basically provide a translation!
Is the red hawk event really that good though compared to radical beam?
Its good depending the match , 5 cost bodies get ko easy, red hawk works early game and radical beam works beast late game
^^ this is good analysis
6:20 is exactly why I don't like Red Hawk in Shanks
I genuinely don’t think he would have done that tho without the little slip up
@@atrocioustcgthere was no slip up
@@atrocioustcg Its pretty predictable if you know its played in the meta
You still have to force opponent to play arround the red hawk which costs him some more dons I guess.
Doffy just saw boa to give that extra don if not that was getting red hawk no matter what
Why was the don attach on jinbei allowed before shanks was up to counter?
Here’s the correct sequence!
attacking players on attack ability
defending players on attack ability
attacking players on enter ability
doffy leader puitting jinbe down
shanks -1 jinbe
jinbe plays boa
boa effect
defending player chooses blockers/counters
So glad I've got most of the cards for a shanks deck. Can't wait till 9 makes it to the US
AGREE LETS GOOO
Shanks made a mistake not using the red hawk anyway. It just ended up being dead in his hand whole game
I feel this
Man shanks looks pretty fun to play, might pick him up.
I think it's a super cool deck to play, I'm excited!!
8:46 why did he take buggy AND sengoku back to hand?
One for Laws cost (bouncing his own character), and the other for the effect (bouncing any cost 4 or less to the hand)
@jermp has it right 🫡 the Law can put ANY 4c back
To get a 2k back to his hand and sengoku to research anything he needs
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I really like the ace Marco version but not having luckyroo or yasop feels so weird
I think just the value you get on marco’s on play is just that good
The Doffy one because of that leather jacket if you ever go up against an opponent with a lot of drip just forfeit!
But in all honestly Shanks did so good I didn’t have much faith in the deck against Doffy but he proved the power of it.
100%! It's not a super favored matchup, but it's close enough that your skill & maybe some luck can power you through consistently like an event of this caliber
Shanks doesn't have any bad MU. I love how it plays. Red making a comeback.
I know it feels pretty ok into a lot, some matchups aren't the best but still bearable
Will the op10 leader really change the meta?
I think they look like tier 2 decks, but certainly viable!
@ at this exact moment I don’t picture any of them actually doing much to the meta
@@cameron2428 OP10 event round 1 had a great new leader showcased, round coming up on the channel in the next hour or two
@@atrocioustcg that is true.the Dressrosa type and blue black combo will definitely be good but I think it will be just shy of greatness
On the Doffy players 6 don turn the shanks player technically misplayed. He used his leader effect too early to counter out of a 7k swing with a 2k counter. If he holds leader effect and takes that hit when the doffy players swings 8k lead and plays the law he can use shanks effect to - 1k the played law. The doffy player then most likely bounces the law to hand however its still one less body on field. The shanks player should also just red hawk regardless of wether its ko'ing a 5k base or not. Had he ko'd the buggy at any point in the 2 turns he had the chance then its 2k less counter in the doffy players hand, meaning he cant protect 1 extra body later in the game (He lost while red hawk still in hand also). Ultimately Doffy player played well and deserved to win. Shanks player played poorly and got dunked on.
Lol no that was not a misplay at all. He couldn't possibly throw out 3k in counter to block out Boa (he will have to discard Ben, which means he has no 7 don play). Your play is based on information you got after seeing what is on the Doffy's hand. If Shanks didnt counter out from Boa's attack, the Doffy player can simply just swing 5k with leader, and then play a 4c from his hand and Shanks will have 0 opportunity to play Red Hawk.
However, I do agree the Shanks player was too greedy and should have just used Red Hawk to counter out the leader attack, regardless whether he can KO a character or not.
@velvetstigma4961 what U have said is not correct and is actually worse than what he did rofl. 1st you take the boa swing. Then if he decides to swing only 5k at least U can use shanks effect to stop the attack for free. Keeping the 2k he used on the boa in hand. The doffy player then had less in hand if he hard plays something.
With the unlucky opening hand and draw situation for the Shanks player I am still shocked that these tournaments don't do a best of 3 or whatever for final matches.
I agree. The Finals should at least become Best of 3. Doff's hand in this match is nuts!
Across most matches I see Bo1 in Japan card games
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great vid! i have doffy deck as well :)
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This is a great comment hahaha goodluck
So close, yet he ended up being ran over y the Doffy and multiple Jinbes
But that is the problem of realying on the late game, if they are too agroo/go wide, you're going to have a hard time surviving till you can counterattack
And the Doffy played arround the Red Hawk well too
Yeah I think the doffy player more than likely new about the specific techs and deckbuild of the Shanks going into it, great play by him
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the dofla player played so good
I know!! He earned the win for sure
Awesome content!!
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So glad to see Shanks being in the top!!!!
Me too!! With such a sick build too
*sigh* man i was really hoping to see Shanks take the win, but that Doffy player just saw all his pieces. But an amazing game nonetheless.
I do like the Shanks deck its a nice different take on it, though a do believe the pure red-haired pirate's is the better way to play it.
Still a good run!! That shanks starting hand was brutal
@atrocioustcg agreed, he definitely should had been playing Lucky Roux to help KO some of the other characters, he probably would have lasted longer
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It was fun while it lasted shanks 🎉 2nd place is still better than nothing
EXACTLY still sick
Definatly an unfortunate hand for shanks here, but I also think he teched too much against black.
It’s a weird balance, right? I think several of your black techs are still good into doffy, but yeah it’s impossible to be ready for all the matchups in this meta
@@atrocioustcg Imo Marco and Ace and no searchers combined is not very good, I think black isn't THAT bad of a matchup to warrant this amount of tech at the cost of general playability.
Then again I'm not a pro, maybe their deck is based on something I'm not seeing here
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Awesome
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I love lucky roux for these reasons
A valid option for sure, but probably only when you play the uta searcher
Final Shanks
The goat
Shanks bricked so hard. What a way to lose :(
Only go down because of unlucky 😭
hope I'm not to late for the give away.
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Missing my pluffy representative 😂
I feel like it’ll come back around for sure
Doffy still top dawg
110%
Nice try shanks, good game dofla.
I do think the same, why shanks to hasty on his leader effect, but when i read the comment now i know the correct sequencing.
But why dont just play the red hawk since it already known and next turn keep set don open so opponent will think confused if you still have it or not..
Keep the red hawk and dofla keep stackin don lol😂
It’s honestly something I had no idea, it’s not a sequencing that you’d guess as a newer player tbh
@atrocioustcg yeah, and now we know since we watch ur vids, haha
Shaaaaaanks NOOOOO😢
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Rooting for Shanks here. 🥹🥹
Same 🥹
I really wanted shanks to win 🥲 that was a really bad opening hand
I know so unfortunate but happens D: