The private league thing was so insane to me. They'd still do everything you'd normally do and basically have +4 proj maps as base before wisp empowering. The loot must've been actually multiplicative for them
So, you'll have to excuse me for my simpleton ways @Steelmage @Zizaran But, am i understanding it correct that you follow the abyss but you don't kill mobs around it, to prevent it from dying? I've been trying this method out for a couple of days, but i've been fighting around it. And hence, i've never gotten a spire, but it always becomes a lootbox.. I've tried finding videos where it is explained in a way that an amateur could understand, but have yet to find one. This is my first league, im playing a lvl 93 DE TS with an omnibuild so far. I've been thinking my dps might be to high to run T7's (Cemetary), but this video makes me believe i'm just doing it all wrong. Could you maybe make a video that explains this to us very new players, in detail? Specifically how to mechanically work it, the mats involved and how to either make or obtain them. Love the content you two guys do, it's been of great help in getting me to where i am right now, even if it's not far! I'll get there some time myself.
A tip is to name the itemfilter something short and swap between them with "/itemfilter uber" and say "/itemfilter curr". Makes it a bit faster to swap between them
@@soundtorial4567but that includes not using wandering path, which in turn makes your maps and abysses much less potent. I'd rather take the occasional L if the occasional W gives me that much more loot in return, the entirety of this strat is trying to hit a lootsplosion anyway so you don't rly need consistency. With at least 1 raw divine per map so far, you're making profit even if everything goes wrong, so I can't see cutting a big chunk of loot potential just for spire stability
In hardcore? Yes. Properly incorporated into a build it can make you basically immortal against rapid small to medium damage hits (aka most of the dangerous things in maps). It also gives +5 max cold resistance which combines well with Melding to mitigate most DoT and large hits too - since most scary damage in PoE is elemental. It requires building around it, but it's part of one of the best defensive setups in the game.
After a break for a couple of years i am fully back into poe. Played from 2013 to 2019. Just need to (re)learn again also some new league mechanics and chances in the skill tree. Will be in softcore for now until i am ans feel confident i remember enough before i try hc again. Any good hc builds that are working well atm? Any build suggestions?
The wildwoods is Diamond shaped,it has 4 Event spawnpoints in north,south,east,West. The middle is füll of whisps. Watch Out for the Walls to Orient Ur spawnpoint
I feel the same way after run a lot of these, other mechanics definitely block max abyss spawns. Besides breach deli and beyond I felt like almost all other mechanics fuck it up.
editor please tell Steelmage that the zizaran throat noises make these unwatchable, i had to turn it off because it was making me feel genuinely queasy
It's steel's loot filter actually so not really much can be done from an editing point of view unless he straight overwrites the audio for every tink that happens, and in these maps... yeah... not gonna happen
Damn, jumped on the train a bit late. Started doing the abyss strat 2 days ago, today I boot it up, run 10 maps just to make about 5 divines total with a 2.5d/map investment. GG, GGG!
we are running 2.5d/map with friends, (3 of us, carryMagicFind, aurabot and cursebot), after 16maps like this (total investment around 35div) profit 170div
This is likely the only league I could get the currency to get all the T0-1 items to play with, but I cannot for the life of me draw the will to play, I couldn't even complete my atlas this time before I just burned out.
So we take both of yalls loots and combine them and divide by two and low and behold nothing has changed and yall just need a bigger pool to make your data 😂
I mean according to fubgun, abyss is still not even worth running with all the extra proj, because of the time it takes to farm it compared to legion. And that guys dropped like 7 mirrors and many headhunters and magebloods solo this league.
Why you have to listen to whoever opinion? when it comes to rng ppl cant tell what is worth and what's not even if its ggg's rng wich is not random at all.
@@reqwe6228 it’s not so much listening to opinions. I’m just looking at the results, and dropping 7 mirrors as a solo only halfway into a league is impressive.
@@Not2Shoddy I had a 11,5k wisps map. T16, Delirium, Winged Ambush/Abyss/Harbinger/Reliquary etc...etc... When abyss spawned, the server could not handle the amount of hits (rage cleave/rage vortex) and just crashed. Map was gone. I think it has also to do with how tanky the monsters were...
I KNOW THEY’RE ON A PRIVATE SERVER, but my complaint still stands for party play on public servers. There should be soft core solo trade leagues and soft core party trade leagues. The trade economy would be much more appropriate for solo players.
@@jhuggz193why? party doesnt drop more loot per player than if you run solo. Emphy had a solo 30 div/h video recently. And from their first week they had what, 10-15div/h avg?
they disabled it because you could pay real money for an advantage in gameplay. Normal players do not have access to the private league +proj mod and it gives anyone willing to pay for it extra rares and therefore extra loot, and they can abuse it by farming in private league and then transferring the loot to the normal league.
Ppl abusing the mechanics to the absolute limit, yet complaining about the performance of the game? Do you think it was intended to have loot like that on the map?
@@alexanderfriedrichs2645 Have you even played the game? Try blight or legion or literally any event with the game that has more than 60 mobs on the screen the game is super UN-optimised and crashes even on my 2080ti on some blight maps I have played the game for 8 years you? They lied about refurbishing the acts they lied about doing loot 2.0 they lied about optimising the game to run better POE 1 is literally just a testing ground for POE 2. I swear, if POE 2 is just as un-optimised as POE 1 in late game, I'm dropping it.
@@marioharrer9999 are you serous right now? There own recomended pc pecs: OS: Windows 10 Processor: Quad core 3.2GHz x64-compatible Memory: 16 GB RAM Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti or ATI Radeon™ RX560 DirectX: Version 11 Network: Broadband Internet connection Storage: 40 GB available space Mine are way above these "recommended specs" so why are you so dumb?
I do note the problem myself but you are posting it under the wrong video. I dont know how many thousands of mobs they are spawning there within super small time frames. No wonder the game cant handle that properly@@GW2KillerBEE
private leagues are shit if you wanna play in a group just do it if you cant trust your group to not cheat who cares ban the exploiters oh wait they are all streamers
If you didn't make content, would you really be still playing this league? It's just juiced mapping but you already have enough farmed for top tier builds
@@lilfrostyy8829 people cannot read I swear, the only change was the removal of multi projectile private league custom modifier making the private league pay to win. Nothing changes in league. At least one person in this comments can read hahah
@@rpemulis I think you deserve the "Most braindead take of the year" Award. Literally the kind of player that complains when they arent looting 1 mageblood per map and uses reddit. Classic
any proof? pls not smth like y-day i got xyz, today i got xyz bcs thts way too low pool of data unless u managed to do like 200 maps y-day and 200 today.
ziz unironicaly calling out the stats on rare mobs is actually peak POE experience
as cris intended
The private league thing was so insane to me. They'd still do everything you'd normally do and basically have +4 proj maps as base before wisp empowering. The loot must've been actually multiplicative for them
abusers,diz
So, you'll have to excuse me for my simpleton ways @Steelmage @Zizaran
But, am i understanding it correct that you follow the abyss but you don't kill mobs around it, to prevent it from dying?
I've been trying this method out for a couple of days, but i've been fighting around it.
And hence, i've never gotten a spire, but it always becomes a lootbox..
I've tried finding videos where it is explained in a way that an amateur could understand, but have yet to find one.
This is my first league, im playing a lvl 93 DE TS with an omnibuild so far.
I've been thinking my dps might be to high to run T7's (Cemetary), but this video makes me believe i'm just doing it all wrong.
Could you maybe make a video that explains this to us very new players, in detail?
Specifically how to mechanically work it, the mats involved and how to either make or obtain them.
Love the content you two guys do, it's been of great help in getting me to where i am right now, even if it's not far!
I'll get there some time myself.
‚do you have enough wipes‘ killed me 😂
Where do I remember that music from???
A tip is to name the itemfilter something short and swap between them with "/itemfilter uber" and say "/itemfilter curr". Makes it a bit faster to swap between them
isnt that ring at 19:38 decent tho?
It is. But since ziz is essentially an aurabot, resistances are trivial.
Streamer server gold rung drops. I can do 10000 juiced maps and get like 1. Streamers get them every map while leveling
What does it mean when he says 8.3k in 3:48 ??
It's the total amount of wisps collected in the wildwood. Higher amount = more loot basically.
Jesus Christ
Wow
The annotation to the video is just unbelievable
I just want to turn it on and watch it
oh i thought link was duration and you have to always relink or am i miss reading the link skill?
I think your thinking around abyss spawns being blocked is what I've experienced too, I actually just had a run with not a single spawn at all
Since i blocked Most mechanics and stopped using ambush i Always get all abysses
@@soundtorial4567but that includes not using wandering path, which in turn makes your maps and abysses much less potent. I'd rather take the occasional L if the occasional W gives me that much more loot in return, the entirety of this strat is trying to hit a lootsplosion anyway so you don't rly need consistency. With at least 1 raw divine per map so far, you're making profit even if everything goes wrong, so I can't see cutting a big chunk of loot potential just for spire stability
multiproj needs retuning
> be me, 3.23
> running abyss and harvest
> pack of triple-buffed vivid watchers covers entire harvest area in chaos damage orb projectiles
Go ci, ez game
i did follow steelmage pob but my damage is very low :( can someone help?
So many multiple event maps I've had no juice on the floor, fully juiced atlas and map
Why is that aegis shield such a big deal?? Is it really that good??
In hardcore? Yes. Properly incorporated into a build it can make you basically immortal against rapid small to medium damage hits (aka most of the dangerous things in maps).
It also gives +5 max cold resistance which combines well with Melding to mitigate most DoT and large hits too - since most scary damage in PoE is elemental.
It requires building around it, but it's part of one of the best defensive setups in the game.
After a break for a couple of years i am fully back into poe. Played from 2013 to 2019. Just need to (re)learn again also some new league mechanics and chances in the skill tree. Will be in softcore for now until i am ans feel confident i remember enough before i try hc again. Any good hc builds that are working well atm?
Any build suggestions?
You don't want to take the reveal wisps because it decreases your wisp power.
When you start seeing people getting multiple mirror drops and magebloods in one day of play time the game is fully broken.
Next league is going to feel like shit for a lot of them when they reel the drops in. Might be a good one to skip.
mageblood cant drop naturaly in t7 and lower, it can only start dropping at lvl 75+ map lvl, aka t8
You only farm T7 if you play HC.
SC is ultra gigga atm.
@@gampie13 mageboold drops as ilvl 75 items dropped in T7 r ilvl 76 so u can drop mageblood in t7
@@gampie13 how have you watched any of these videos with a semblance of brain cells and think that
if i ever hear that ziz chugging notification again it will be too soon.
this is what path of exile looks like in my dreams
Isn't it just a set area which you reveal? It looks like they reveal it as it matters how you reveal it though
The wildwoods is Diamond shaped,it has 4 Event spawnpoints in north,south,east,West. The middle is füll of whisps.
Watch Out for the Walls to Orient Ur spawnpoint
Ok, so it is set and doesn't matter how you explore it then. I guess they just wanted to explore it more effectively or something@@soundtorial4567
why is it every second it sounds like someone is gagging on something... wtf.
loot filter sound
Any1 knows what builds they are using as duo?
Got 52 Div in a 11000 wisp tier 16 map
How do you even get that much wipspsp
you try figure out where in the wildwood you spawned, then reach all 4 events which are at 12, 3, 6 and 9 o'clock on the map respectively@@NessNT
@@NessNT AKA a diamond shape
i always only get max 2 direction out of 4 and the portal then opens for me..wat am i doing wrong?
I feel the same way after run a lot of these, other mechanics definitely block max abyss spawns. Besides breach deli and beyond I felt like almost all other mechanics fuck it up.
Cemetery doesnt have that many pathways for abyss. Especially strongboxes Block Ur abyss spawn
This league is first time i have had not enought to use uber fukin imba very strict neversink filter...
can you really get anything good in a t4 map? im confused
Rly want that item filter sound
1 map spawns as many rare mobs as 20 regular alch and go maps. And this is the league I had to skip 😩
Login dude
the league mechanic is so awesome. got my first mirror thanks to it. 7k juice
editor please tell Steelmage that the zizaran throat noises make these unwatchable, i had to turn it off because it was making me feel genuinely queasy
Its steels loot filter actually^^
It's steel's loot filter actually so not really much can be done from an editing point of view unless he straight overwrites the audio for every tink that happens, and in these maps... yeah... not gonna happen
Damn, jumped on the train a bit late. Started doing the abyss strat 2 days ago, today I boot it up, run 10 maps just to make about 5 divines total with a 2.5d/map investment. GG, GGG!
we are running 2.5d/map with friends, (3 of us, carryMagicFind, aurabot and cursebot), after 16maps like this (total investment around 35div) profit 170div
Meanwhile d4 players are playing Amazon currier simulator to store their legendaries while looting their battlepass horse skin
ysterday i droped a mirror
in t14
1.5k juice each
i was just geting sulphite for delve
this leag is broken :)
you're right, masters can block abyss
This is likely the only league I could get the currency to get all the T0-1 items to play with, but I cannot for the life of me draw the will to play, I couldn't even complete my atlas this time before I just burned out.
holy fuck those chat alerts are terrible.
I'm sad that I skipped this league after seeing this 😂
i mean it aint joe-over
@@Zinken_ ive never been three weeks into a league and thought "YEAH IM JUST GETTING STARTED BABY, I'M RAMPING". fun league.
u can easily still start
@@rpemulis skill issue
@@Zinken_west has fallen
Ok good he vendored down the rings.
need your lootfilter if u can share :D
yes saw your videos. not sure if you know this. they watch people playing the game will notice if something wrong in game and fix it if see it
i actually feel like they nerfed it yesterday 4 maps 15 div today same setup 4 div
I feel they buffed it, got 6 valdo box, 3 keys and 25 div in one map
Peak example of confirmation bias
So we take both of yalls loots and combine them and divide by two and low and behold nothing has changed and yall just need a bigger pool to make your data 😂
I got a doctor card yesterday and lots of other stuff so i doubt it.
4 maps is a small set
these lootfilter sounds are disgusting ... how can you stand a whole day with that xDD
i really neeed this filter hahahaha
So this is what this game has become?
чего нерфить когда дропается только паре человек, которым дроп накручен. не стимерам нчиего не дропается.
I mean according to fubgun, abyss is still not even worth running with all the extra proj, because of the time it takes to farm it compared to legion. And that guys dropped like 7 mirrors and many headhunters and magebloods solo this league.
Why you have to listen to whoever opinion? when it comes to rng ppl cant tell what is worth and what's not even if its ggg's rng wich is not random at all.
@@reqwe6228 it’s not so much listening to opinions. I’m just looking at the results, and dropping 7 mirrors as a solo only halfway into a league is impressive.
Legion is definitely faster, but abyss spawns more rare mobs meaning more conversions.
@@practic4l349 The rationale is that if you do maps faster, you get more chances to run into that legendary 10k+ wisp map
@@Not2Shoddy I had a 11,5k wisps map. T16, Delirium, Winged Ambush/Abyss/Harbinger/Reliquary etc...etc... When abyss spawned, the server could not handle the amount of hits (rage cleave/rage vortex) and just crashed. Map was gone. I think it has also to do with how tanky the monsters were...
Solo play: “wow this is rippy.”
Party play: “face tank everything and get 5x the loot”
Nice job GGG
I KNOW THEY’RE ON A PRIVATE SERVER, but my complaint still stands for party play on public servers. There should be soft core solo trade leagues and soft core party trade leagues. The trade economy would be much more appropriate for solo players.
@@jhuggz193why? party doesnt drop more loot per player than if you run solo. Emphy had a solo 30 div/h video recently. And from their first week they had what, 10-15div/h avg?
GGG only approves of unfair shit when it is to kill players out of nowhere. When we can use for our benefits is "unintended"
they disabled it because you could pay real money for an advantage in gameplay. Normal players do not have access to the private league +proj mod and it gives anyone willing to pay for it extra rares and therefore extra loot, and they can abuse it by farming in private league and then transferring the loot to the normal league.
Yeah this whole interaction was entirely unintended as the mods you have access to in PLs only make the game HARDER not easier@@thewishingpig
how has GGG not fixed the laggy shit performance at endgame? Or the 100000's of items dropping on the ground? Hasnt it been 10 years?
Ppl abusing the mechanics to the absolute limit, yet complaining about the performance of the game? Do you think it was intended to have loot like that on the map?
@@alexanderfriedrichs2645 Have you even played the game? Try blight or legion or literally any event with the game that has more than 60 mobs on the screen the game is super UN-optimised and crashes even on my 2080ti on some blight maps I have played the game for 8 years you? They lied about refurbishing the acts they lied about doing loot 2.0 they lied about optimising the game to run better POE 1 is literally just a testing ground for POE 2. I swear, if POE 2 is just as un-optimised as POE 1 in late game, I'm dropping it.
@@GW2KillerBEE 2080ti xddd actually 6yo old pc... bruh..
@@marioharrer9999 are you serous right now? There own recomended pc pecs:
OS: Windows 10
Processor: Quad core 3.2GHz x64-compatible
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti or ATI Radeon™ RX560
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 40 GB available space
Mine are way above these "recommended specs" so why are you so dumb?
I do note the problem myself but you are posting it under the wrong video. I dont know how many thousands of mobs they are spawning there within super small time frames. No wonder the game cant handle that properly@@GW2KillerBEE
private leagues are shit if you wanna play in a group just do it if you cant trust your group to not cheat who cares ban the exploiters oh wait they are all streamers
I just cant watch anymore with Ziz making those sounds, its disgusting
I couldn't watch past 9
That’s steels loot filter with custom sounds are you mad guys 😂
Those Ziz noises really ruin the video for me. Really, wtf?
Those sound alerts are just cancerous
This game became just ridiculous, disgusting clutter of nonsense and psychedelic garbage
If you didn't make content, would you really be still playing this league? It's just juiced mapping but you already have enough farmed for top tier builds
did they seriously nerf this the exact moment i specced into abyss
No they didn’t lmao
Only for private leagues
@@lilfrostyy8829 people cannot read I swear, the only change was the removal of multi projectile private league custom modifier making the private league pay to win. Nothing changes in league. At least one person in this comments can read hahah
@@TheOne23_ Most people read "removed +# additional projectiles" and stopped 💀
The fact that people are saying this is "OK" for poe is obsurd, reminds me of that Alkaizer clip where hes talking about awakened mirrors of kalandra.
most fun i have ever had in poe this league and ive played something like 3 years
@Videosakko same, ive played for 7-8 this is why we play lol. Big loots
alkaiser is a baby, i'm having fun. you guys are going to get poe2 "dark souls of arpgs 25 seconds to clear a mob pack" anyways, stop crying.
@@rpemulis I think you deserve the "Most braindead take of the year" Award. Literally the kind of player that complains when they arent looting 1 mageblood per map and uses reddit. Classic
@@Sengyizhe this is quite the tantrum you are throwing over one league being "too fun".
teeY
Do u like this nasty divine sound appearing? I could not watch and had to stop the video
Yeet
They have 100% put a silent nerf into action pretty lame if you ask me
any proof? pls not smth like y-day i got xyz, today i got xyz bcs thts way too low pool of data unless u managed to do like 200 maps y-day and 200 today.
@@marioharrer9999 play the game and tell me they haven’t
@@killed_bya_bot7775it has always been a bit inconsistent. Not nerfed
unethical
they nerf this? gg i was having fun o well back to wow
no you goomba, actually watch the video
They stopped the unintended pay to win aspect of it, that's all.
Actually learn how to read instead of seeing three words and crying