[PoE 3.23] How to Farm 3+ Mirrors a Day at League Start While Running White Maps in Leveling Gear

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  • @BeltonPoE
    @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому +38

    Here is the spreadsheet presented in the video that can be copied+used by anyone going forward--- hope it helps! If you want more deep dive explanations, please consider subscribing to the channel as we work our way towards 20,000 subscribers by the end of the first year. Much love! (to use spreadsheet yourself click File-> Make a Copy)
    docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oV0wc229xlnjgjB32_HsL24WKO1cJYsUupgMzCjtWzk/edit#gid=0

    • @SodGrass
      @SodGrass 11 місяців тому +2

      Yo how much money do you make outside of Poe you know to much brother

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому +2

      Haha thank you my friend

    • @cujawinkler
      @cujawinkler 11 місяців тому

      Integrated Poe Trade/Ninja Link for Quick Search of Prices would be nice; Memory/Divine-Chaos and all Beasts. Thanks for the video btw

    • @austinbowers1362
      @austinbowers1362 11 місяців тому

      You don't come across as a troll like Cutedog purposefully mispronouncing things. The video does not appear to be in satire. You seem intelligent. Can you please look up how to say words correctly. It just seems cringe to me. One example of several in the video is "menagerie".
      Also, price history per ninja is 91c on December 9th. Who is your audience here? Who has 91c to invest in a specialized map on day one let alone purchasing several of them to sell beasts in bulk??? smh

    • @squidwardenjoyer2904
      @squidwardenjoyer2904 11 місяців тому +1

      Im on console and even I have serveral divines on day 1. Maybe just stop being shit at the game? If it takes longer than 5 hours to get to maps just uninstall and play diablo ​@austinbowers1362

  • @TempestMind6309
    @TempestMind6309 11 місяців тому +121

    No matter how hard he tries the man can't stop himself from delivering a tour de force masterclass on any given subject in Path of Exile. Thank you for this. The spreadsheet is the icing on the cake.

  • @jarowan
    @jarowan 11 місяців тому +9

    Pretty much every significant profit strategy in POE is based on information asymmetry and market inefficiency, where someone spots a niche and goes to town. As soon as people figure out what they're doing, the markets flood and profitability crashes. The lower the barriers to entry on the strat, the faster the market will correct.

  • @cptalbatar3865
    @cptalbatar3865 11 місяців тому +34

    wont lie you made my league soooooo much more enjoyable ! i'm swimming divines like i have never been and it's thx to you ! Much love for your hard work man ! Keep it up !

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому +9

      Amazing brother! Appreciate the kind words, and right back at ya- keep up the good work! 📈📈

  • @MrJustin1m
    @MrJustin1m 11 місяців тому +8

    I now use this same strat but the essence version, as soon as I have enough to buy one I just keep doubling and doubling until it snow balls and you can then go longer without bulk selling and demand a much higher price due to quantity, thanks dude!

    • @kkeithf
      @kkeithf 11 місяців тому

      Good idea

    • @MrJustin1m
      @MrJustin1m 11 місяців тому +1

      @@kkeithf its pretty good its a lot of micro managing and having live search up constantly to get the good prices on the memoriesm, but as long as you have a build that doesnt fall over and can kill essences fairly fast you can make a ton of currency

    • @kkeithf
      @kkeithf 11 місяців тому

      @@MrJustin1m yeah for sure, seems much better than basic essence farming. Might give this a shot next start. Thanks for the idea man.

    • @Klonkrieger41
      @Klonkrieger41 8 місяців тому

      wait how does it work with essence memorys ? the same that every party member gets essences too ?@@MrJustin1m

  • @i7ven
    @i7ven 11 місяців тому +6

    Holy. I'm just learning this mechanic and it feels like another addition to the game that's going to take a good week just to understand the basics.

  • @TheSilverwing999
    @TheSilverwing999 10 місяців тому +1

    Very useful information. I learned some new things here for sure.
    Feedback i would give is that it's a bit random how you switch between solo info and group/party info. I never do party so i had to skip through a lot of talk here and there that didn't concern me. Would be nice to have either timestamps during the video od when tbe topic changes or if you could group up the topics so every general tip that can be used by everyone is frontloaded and all group talk after or vice versa.
    Also there was no info included in how best you sell the beasts in bulk after you farm them, which a new player could definitely use

  • @xenoaurora
    @xenoaurora 11 місяців тому +15

    Love your content, hoping one day I can farm like this

  • @prudnq5
    @prudnq5 10 місяців тому +1

    My guy actually said, that's what i get for drinking coke zero out of a wine glass, gotta do the dishes, never have i related as much on youtube, instant sub n like

  • @giulianocc12
    @giulianocc12 11 місяців тому +16

    Guys, this farm unfortunatelly is not anymore profit if you do solo. The memory is around 7.2 divines to 8 divines. to you would profit only 40-50chaos per memory. Be careful..search on market first

    • @daanstrik4293
      @daanstrik4293 10 місяців тому +4

      3 weeks later and the memory is now 12 divines at the cheapest.

    • @irfanrafi_ardian
      @irfanrafi_ardian 5 місяців тому

      23±Div now.

  • @RoughToughTonkasGotTheStuff
    @RoughToughTonkasGotTheStuff 11 місяців тому +3

    I was looking for this information the other day, but didn't find a video that was satisfactory...this was more than that -- thanks!

  • @respectdat1
    @respectdat1 11 місяців тому +2

    After this video came out, the price of the memories literally doubled lmfao.

  • @RohanSA
    @RohanSA 10 місяців тому

    Only seen a couple videos so far, but I like this guy

  • @cheesecakenl1980
    @cheesecakenl1980 11 місяців тому +3

    Hey thanks for putting this out so quickly. This is really cool also with the spreadsheet you created!

  • @keebell
    @keebell 11 місяців тому +1

    Avg profit per memory (full party)/6 = 1,71 div per person if you do it with team/crafting group. Solo profit/mem = 2.89 div so it's better to run them separately for maximum profit

    • @c-tothefourth4879
      @c-tothefourth4879 11 місяців тому +1

      On a per map basis sure. But you can do them faster in groups.

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому +8

      There will never be a large enough supply to sustain a co-ordinated effort in this vein. Would need 100+ memories an hour every hour all being bought at the same time without overlapping trade whispers and without surge pricing the market.
      The absolute return is better, ofc, as well in terms of div:div , not accounting for man hours. Usually the best solution is somewhere in the middle ( a 3/3 split instead of 6/0 or a 1/1/1/1/1/1/1)

  • @finisheseverythi
    @finisheseverythi 9 місяців тому

    brilliant stuff, anyone that complains and calls this exploitation is simply butt hurt that they haven't done it themselves. They would rather project anger to those that do, than face their own lack of insight / competence / ability.

  • @nothatguy777
    @nothatguy777 10 місяців тому +2

    Does a second player invited need to be near the host to get a chance to capture a beast? Or he (the invited player) can kill a beast anywhere on the map and get the chance to capture a beast(as long as he is in a screen range ofc)?

  • @stephenfrost545
    @stephenfrost545 11 місяців тому +7

    You're the man Belton! Next league, if you need someone to tag along and give you the agreed upon beasts, hit me up. I'm a business owner and I absolutely love your explanation!

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому +2

      Bless brother! 🙏🏻📈

  • @고수전사
    @고수전사 11 місяців тому +1

    this guy is on another level , crazy.

  • @MDLeide
    @MDLeide 11 місяців тому +5

    Belton, you're a weird dude, and at first I wasn't sure about you. But you've grown on me a lot, and I appreciate you content and candor.

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому +12

      Thanks man. I can acknowledge that first part too. I know who i am, and I’m good with the pitfalls of being that way along with the benefits. I hope to be judged, ultimately, on the merit of my arguments or assertions, as fine tuning / perfecting those is a goal I can meaningfully pursue - being the messenger that everyone universally admires/likes, on the other hand, I feel is a fools errand. Especially when certain truths will undoubtedly be unpopular when spoken aloud.

  • @pineful4861
    @pineful4861 11 місяців тому +2

    Never done any memories before. I like that its independent of the atlas so I don't have to respec to try something new

    • @Daethbane
      @Daethbane 11 місяців тому

      Memories are awesome, but especially this one, essence, and harbingers

  • @MrAnderson84
    @MrAnderson84 11 місяців тому +4

    *YOOOOO! Started with 6 div. Bought one run, made my money back plus, both another one got my money back. Im now up to 18div and change. About an hours work.. THANKS*

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому

      Hell ya brother! 📈

  • @marianocobas7849
    @marianocobas7849 11 місяців тому +2

    Amazing video, so much data. Now memories are going for 6.4 div each, all 9 beasts are like 7.5 if you sell at 110% maybe. If you are fast enough, you can still make huge money, but not as good as before. Tho, RNG plays a bigger roll here so I wouldnt go into the farm unless you can buy at least 10 memories

    • @alexanderb6278
      @alexanderb6278 11 місяців тому +1

      This always happens, I bought like 20 memories last night to try it out with some friends today, but I think now I'm just going to sell them for an easy 25 div profit and go back to 8 mod mapping

    • @marianocobas7849
      @marianocobas7849 11 місяців тому

      @@alexanderb6278 Yeah just sell them asap

    • @OhDearAudrey
      @OhDearAudrey 11 місяців тому +2

      @@alexanderb6278 the moment someone makes a video about it it is no longer a viable strategy, save this and use it next league

    • @blurzhs8556
      @blurzhs8556 11 місяців тому

      @@marianocobas7849 yes there 10div now but if you just input the prices you see its still profit..... the beast prices are high too

  • @Freaktourist
    @Freaktourist 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for your video me and my friend will try this out, would you suggest as league start we do it on our own, or in a team of two? We dont like to play in a full party. i kind of dont get why random people would join your group instead of running it alone when it comes to profit^^.

  • @xutfw
    @xutfw 11 місяців тому +4

    Wish I had known these were profitable solo. I sold the two I got because I figured I needed to be in a group. Great info, now I know.

    • @mmaxtg8498
      @mmaxtg8498 11 місяців тому +1

      The einhar memories of sacred grove are also money now given how expensive lifeforce is, but you need to roll for quant / juice them too.

  • @ILikeGuns1992
    @ILikeGuns1992 11 місяців тому +2

    For some reason I didn't assumed that these memories can be ran this quickly. O_o

    • @NhuQuynh-nv7fp
      @NhuQuynh-nv7fp 11 місяців тому

      It’s t1 so super fast

    • @mmaxtg8498
      @mmaxtg8498 11 місяців тому +1

      Important part is you don't need to capture every beast, and can leave after you've gotten the harvest beasts. It may make sense to check for Craicic Chimerals on Fields, Colonnade, or Strand, for example. And if playing as a party, it makes even more sense to just capture the beasts which are worth it, to raise the likelihood those are the ones the party members get.

  • @RelaxedpiperYoutube
    @RelaxedpiperYoutube 11 місяців тому

    Crazy smart work sir! I wish I could grasp the understanding of the game mechanics. lol

  • @tristanking3370
    @tristanking3370 10 місяців тому

    Even with the memories being 12 div to run Im still netting 2-3Div per run! This is the most currency Ive had in any league. The spreadsheet is so baller. Thanks for making these!

    • @Deagin
      @Deagin 10 місяців тому +1

      memories are at 15div right now. I ran it because i wanted to see how it actually works and i managed to snipe 2 vivid vultures. i'm too scared to run again as i think I got insanely lucky. how many runs have you done and have u ever lost div on a run?

    • @rustyginger8729
      @rustyginger8729 10 місяців тому +1

      I only buy them at 13 div and below. Significantly slower but more guaranteed profit. At 15 div if you arent getting 2 vultures you’re barely scraping even.

  • @markel661
    @markel661 11 місяців тому +2

    Every end of the memory you have to capture beasts?, or they stack on bestiary?

    • @Perf401
      @Perf401 11 місяців тому +1

      People make guides assuming you should already know literally everything they say. No mercy for non-pro players.

    • @markel661
      @markel661 11 місяців тому

      Im pretty sure he said that at some point, and I just mist it, thats why I'm asking.
      I'm not trying to bully him, this guide is amazing and is fully explained.
      I assume you should watch the video :)@@Perf401

  • @Chance530
    @Chance530 11 місяців тому +3

    Great info bro. Always learn something from these.

  • @hadesior7321
    @hadesior7321 6 місяців тому

    bro looks like the type that after gaming goes and breaks wood with his hands before sleep what a chad

  • @DirkVomEck
    @DirkVomEck 11 місяців тому +2

    Hey Belton,
    stumbled across your video by accident, very interesting content, nice of you to share so many great currency making tips.
    How do you earn money at league start until you can afford Memories? Do you have a strategy? Or is it just playing and selling halfway decent drops?
    Or something like grinding out chaos recipe for a while until you can afford some memories?
    Thanks again for your content and keep up the good work!

    • @illomens2766
      @illomens2766 11 місяців тому

      For league start, as soon as you hit Act 6 and earn yourself your first bunch of Rogue's Markers, go to the Rogue's Harbour and start buying all Lockpicking, Demolition and Perception contracts. Once you've bought them all, put them somewhere and go back to acts until you level up, then return to the Harbour and buy more. The vendor resets every time you level up. Keep doing this until you reach Act 9. Do all the contracts you've gathered before you fight Kitava. Focus on the chests with question marks or chaos symbols on them. Easy currency.

  • @ofcl.faculty
    @ofcl.faculty 11 місяців тому

    started with 6.2 memory, made around 4,8 div and a few 40-45 / 5c ..nice. did it with a friend and he only captured one 40c beast

  • @idliketorant9147
    @idliketorant9147 11 місяців тому +1

    To further extend your point on people thinking this is exploitive of other people etc.. not only are you putting in all the work for the group maps etc etc you're fronting the cost to run these in bulk all at once so the upfront cost say your running 20 in a row minimum is much more currency than most people have which is how it is advantageous for both parties if you are hella poor and someone offers you this you should take it because you'd be making way more div/h than you would on your own if you aren't a seasoned vet or if you have limited time to play.

  • @deadsun-
    @deadsun- 11 місяців тому

    Did you do this in a previous league and would you do it in the next league if nothing changes(aside from thousands more people knowing about it? Lol what other early farming methods like this have you run?

  • @viduo
    @viduo 11 місяців тому

    @BeltonPoE Do you have a POB for the build you were running with early gear (you talk about it @ 40:42 in the video)?

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому

      Nah sorry brother, I don’t use PoB and never have, I always just think of things in my head and do mental math and/or use notepad and calculator app if I need a visual. I see upgrades / gear etc in a utilitarian way , based on objective at the time- and large elements of actual playability aren’t properly represented in PoB that Cant necessarily be quantified - the “feel” of the build, so to speak. Taking that approach I know how to swap passives/ jewels/ flasks / auras for whatever I’m doing at the time- if it’s a bunch of Uber bosses, vs a bunch of t1 memories vs super juiced t16s vs XP grinding etc , I don’t have to go spend 30 minutes shuffling stuff in the abstract , I can just do it by memory/habit off hand and quickly. I know that’s not very helpful as a response to your request but my failure to provide one isn’t a matter of withholding , I just don’t use them. Sorry pal!

    • @viduo
      @viduo 11 місяців тому

      @@BeltonPoE No worries! I know POB doesn't tell the whole story. I was trying to get a picture of early league progress as a bow player. I play Storm Brand almost exclusively so starting with bow isn't in my hand bag.

  • @KakaCarmenElectraz
    @KakaCarmenElectraz 11 місяців тому +1

    dam such good info, if this was even remotely loosely time stamped for certain convo topics, 10/10 video, I'll give it a 9/10 otherwise

  • @mmaxtg8498
    @mmaxtg8498 11 місяців тому +1

    Absolute banger. Keep pumping out the currency and content!

  • @Casual_ND
    @Casual_ND 11 місяців тому +3

    Wait I thought you need to capture all the beasts in the map for them to be added to your menagerie, no?
    Great instructive video man, incredible value.

  • @teropiispala2576
    @teropiispala2576 11 місяців тому +1

    This makes me feel you guys are playing completely different game. I was struggling to get even couple of C per map untill I had about 5 days playtime. All that was dropped was totally worthless gear, but practically no currency.
    Now that I have filled most of my Atlas, things are bit better. I can find 2k - 6k worth of wisps, with typical value of 10-30c, if I have harvest and abyss. It takes more than few minutes to run, so my best average is around 100c/h.
    Now I have about 7 days playtime, and total worth 8div.

    • @iansyafiq
      @iansyafiq 11 місяців тому +1

      Go at your own speed, as long as you enjoy the game! Well, unless you just want to fill your screen with loot you’re gonna have to spend absurd amounts of time and understanding, but from my experience, a mixture of both is nice and once I stopped caring about div/hr, I actually started enjoying the game and the content a lot more. Cheers

    • @teropiispala2576
      @teropiispala2576 11 місяців тому +2

      @@iansyafiq That's what I have been doing, but farming with such income doesn't motivate. That's why I have been expanding my atlas and fighting pinacle bosses. However, I can't juice higher tier maps, so I get practically no currency from them, and I'm closing to limit where I can't continue with my current gear. It's total worth is around 200c, so not perfect for big bosses and highly juiced maps.
      There's kind of egg-chicken problem, since strong builds get insane drops and weaker ones very little. I have 2 divs and 135c, and around 5 divs in mixex stuff, like essences and small currency, but haven't been able to sell much. Propably I'd need bigger stockpile for eact to be worth trouble to buy.
      When looking an upgrade for my items, most things would cost 10-20div and provide 5-10% increase on my dps. Can't even think about items that actually change something.
      If something doesn't change, I propably stop playing when I can no longer progress.
      For me. It seems there are not enough wisps in lower tier maps to get more than 2k max. In tier 10 maps, there seems to be plenty, but if I gather 6k or more, the map will be full of monsters which take practically no damage and I end up being dead.
      Typically I chisel my maps to 20%, make them rare and use some fragments and scarabs if it looks promising.

    • @iansyafiq
      @iansyafiq 11 місяців тому +1

      @@teropiispala2576 Don’t worry, I absolutely get your frustration. I’m sure many others do too. The thing about juicing maps with wisps are that
      1. They require pre-planning, starting from which build could run these juiced maps. I have 2 builds this league as the first one struggled killing even juiced T7 Rares when it can speed through unjuiced T16’s. Other planning include how much wisps you can get per map, and cost/profit as the scarabs and sextants/maps are quite expensive atm.
      2. You need to sustain damage/eHp, not necessary to kill them with 1 shots, or make yourself immortal, but somewhere in between, which is not as easy to achieve as someone would think.
      My advice to you would be to play the other content first, and build up some currency (the regrets for the atlas are quite cheap righht now) Maybe gather 15-20 divs before you start juicing maps after upgrading your gear, as you will find it more satisfying to farm abyss with juiced wisps later on (thats what I did after realising my first character couldn’t handle the juice.) Personally, I did harvest and expedition and garnered about 30 divs purely from expedition/harvest.
      Last thing I wanted to mention, you do not need 10-20 divs to upgrade your build. Last league, I crafted RF Sceptres which were selling for 10-20 divs each. The cost was only about 4-5 divs each and I would make maybe 1 in less than 10 minutes (transmute rolling).
      My point is, many people just get lazy and buy upgrades from the trade website, but if you just search for guides and craft them using essences/harvest, you would save yourself at least half (most of the time 70-80+% of the cost of buying)
      Hope I’ve helped you a little, cheers.

    • @oneoranota
      @oneoranota 11 місяців тому +1

      Fastest way to get currency imo is to id and sell flasks. Couple that with chaos recipe and you should make 200 chaos (bare minimum) before reaching maps.
      Also, pick a build that can run t16 on a 200c gear. That is a requirement for league starter. Else you are bound for trouble. Another viable strat is to play hideout warrior and flip 100 div before opening a single map. Some enjoy that. I don't.

    • @ic8789
      @ic8789 11 місяців тому +1

      Do essences. Respec your atlas to all essence nodes, make sure 7th gate is active, and if you have enough to spare go harvest. You can use the notable that gives 50% more mechanics but disables scarabs for more essences per map and a higher chance at harvest.
      It's not uncommon to kill a single essence monster in a low tier, scoured map that will drop more than 100c worth essences. You need to learn now to use remnants of corruption after you build up a few.😂

  • @MrShagification
    @MrShagification 11 місяців тому +1

    It is exploitation by definition, but exploitation by definition doesn't need to be morally loaded. You can 'exploit' the work of an individual to make a a greater profit than you would solo, and still compensate the 'exploited' worker fairly. A party can benefit from being 'exploited'.

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому +3

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_argument

  • @anathema1828
    @anathema1828 11 місяців тому

    Nice work on the video!

  • @CasualDudeGaming
    @CasualDudeGaming 11 місяців тому +3

    Belton is the only creator that don't gatekeep strat. He gives very detail info too.

  • @PSL1969
    @PSL1969 11 місяців тому +2

    I'm unable to find any of these memories for sale now 😂

  • @thomaskallstrom7452
    @thomaskallstrom7452 5 місяців тому

    How did you get the currency to get the memories? (please don't say flask/cluster jewel crafting)

  • @А-ля-ю8е
    @А-ля-ю8е 11 місяців тому

    wow this all is so very well explained thanks. been running guardians and elderslayers now, good profit. yet this strat seems to be more profitable as you get roughly 1 div each run (really?). while with guardians you do ~1 div in 4 runs. and this looks like it's much easier to clear

    • @AdskyDimon
      @AdskyDimon 11 місяців тому

      it want way more investment, sadly, and has a chance to leave you in a total loss of money if you only do a couple and catch a streak of unluck on the beasts

  • @ashandaaritevalumbre2186
    @ashandaaritevalumbre2186 11 місяців тому +1

    price / memory is now 8.6 to 9 divs, means you now lose 3 div / run

  • @AugusXD
    @AugusXD 11 місяців тому +1

    I will come to Belton's chat during next league start for 10 div/h.

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому

      It’s a date 😘📈

    • @oneoranota
      @oneoranota 11 місяців тому

      It was 7 div/h at the beginning of the video and it's probably gonna be 4 on league start but hey, that's still good currency !

  • @Power_Play_Music
    @Power_Play_Music 11 місяців тому

    What is your strat for earning the currency on league start to buy the memories? Like what is earning you currency before you can sustain memory farm?

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому

      Made 37c bought first memory. Sold the beasts. Made 180c. Bought 4 more from the one. Bought 15 from that etc. Literally started like 18 hours into league.

  • @adamjackson7585
    @adamjackson7585 11 місяців тому +1

    How do I sell these in bulk? Need a guide on how to do that or how you do that.

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому +2

      You can use TFT, my discord, the Reddit trading discord etc if you want- I , myself, just type /autoreply How many beasts do you want? Bulk sales of 5+ beasts only. And then I make 9 different tabs priced in accordance with each beast , bottle all of them at once, place in corresponding tab , and then make all the tabs public at once. You get spammed like 100+ dms every few mins if you are cheapest on market, so I just look for the person who replies with the largest answer to the auto reply - quite often with watchers and hellions people will buy all of them. Matrons I sell usually 3-5 per order , and bramblebacks 10+ per order. The abberach as and rhex’s I run - and the primal cyst and crush I sell 50+ usually but they are far less popular. I never sell vultures since I need them for mirror crafts.

    • @adamjackson7585
      @adamjackson7585 11 місяців тому

      Huge thanks man. I got banned from TFT because of your discord so was wondering how you did it :P@@BeltonPoE

  • @ortinek68
    @ortinek68 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for video :) i was trying to do it solo but i got only 7 divs to start with it, first one give me back little over 1div and second one i was behind almost 2 divs :D I do something wrong? ^_^

    • @marianocobas7849
      @marianocobas7849 11 місяців тому

      Is pure RNG, I wouldnt try this farm unless you can buy at least 8-10 memories to start

    • @ortinek68
      @ortinek68 11 місяців тому

      @@marianocobas7849 Yeah, maybe with more memories it would work out for me :)
      But for now i dont have that much divines :D and people sell those memories for 6,5d now

  • @samarindt
    @samarindt 11 місяців тому

    Don't forget that a lot of things, like mirrors, are a lot cheaper at league start.
    It would be interresting if someone tried to calculate the economical impact on a player like Benton starting at day 1 compared to day 30.

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому +1

      Largest economic impact ive ever had was at towards the end of crucible league , when diablo came out a lot of players quit- I didn’t, and then crafted the best bow , phys wand, str stack wand, es shield, omni boots, & omni ring to ever exist, along with several best in league mirror crafts. I did over 1000 mirror services in the last 6 weeks of league and was making between 15-20 mirrors a day for the last month. At one point I bought 100 magebloods to double corrupt- another time I bought out the entire vivid lifeforce market and sacred lf market.
      The impact measured by the player has to be given context or be measured relative to overall player activity/ numbers to be meaningful, personal performance is obviously a huge part of that but not the only factor

    • @samarindt
      @samarindt 11 місяців тому

      @@BeltonPoENo criticism towards this video (I especially appreciate the sheet that shows the math) but the only thing that is reoccurring each league is that all of us start at 0 and there are massive market swings before the league settles and other market inefficiencies create opportunities.
      Crucible: Impressive use of that change in the market. How did you take advantage of the change of active players since that would affect both supply and demand?
      You said in another comment that you don't use POB and make descissions on game knowledge and feel. Do you play only one build every league or change?

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому

      The distribution of demand is not proportionate to overall declining player #s. The people who can afford mirroring might leave at a 20% rate , whereas those who could not or were more in the mid/early stages as a player were far more likely to have quit from fatigue and/or to go play Diablo. Also, the items were the “best ever” and since it was widely assumed and eventually confirmed that crucible would not go core, many people logged back in at some point simply to mirror the items I had , if, for nothint else, to take advantage of lower mirror costs in league vs standard. That hype transitioned over to standard where , the day of merger , I made 130 mirrors in a single day from so many mirror services. At one point I had 63,000 raw divines.
      The first part, regarding declining player numbers , is why I alwyas focus on super high end items early - far before I get basic build staples - ans why I never craft “mid range” items. The demand for the super
      High end increases in perpetuity , whereas the supply of materials + material costs + zero sum nature of mirror items basically price other players out of the market.

  • @SlayAvocado
    @SlayAvocado 11 місяців тому

    what will be the price for the beast memory in the first two days of the new league?
    If it is div price, how to buy the first beast memory? When you buy and run the first memory, then you need to sell all the beast to buy second memory. How quick you can sell it in the first day?

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому +1

      Started buying / running at 37c this league. Similar price range last league. Wild bristle matron gives a meta mod which is bare minimum 1 div , but usually is used to replace SCBC which is 2 div. People very badly need these early as they are core to making certain popular entry level crafts , as well, people don’t have the bench versions from unique maps yet. First 1-5 days -ish you can actually usually triple your investment by literally selling ONLY matrons lol.
      With respect to timing, I’ve never waited longer than 5 minutes to sell harvest beasts (if I price at lowest on mkt). So turnaround time is also basically nil.

  • @vahnnoa3990
    @vahnnoa3990 11 місяців тому +1

    Love this!
    My only question is on a brand new league start, do the beasts actually sell in the first few days? I'm a bit worried I buy the first few, run them, then they don't sell until the end of week 1, thus tying up limited currency in the beginning.

    • @TriconPOE
      @TriconPOE 11 місяців тому

      They do sell but obviously some of them go up in price a lot after a week or so.

  • @mmaxtg8498
    @mmaxtg8498 11 місяців тому +2

    Keep in mind, you can do this with two characters "solo" if one account opens the map (and so gets a copy of every beast) and then your main account goes and captures them, getting that extra 20% of beasts.

    • @MagnusMegamind
      @MagnusMegamind 11 місяців тому

      keep in mind u need 6 accounts in that case, which is against tos.

    • @hfweuiofnweuio500
      @hfweuiofnweuio500 11 місяців тому

      @@MagnusMegamind you can have as many acounts as you want, it cant be against the tos. and during ritual league with feared invitations ggg clarified they dont care how many accounts you play with "as long as you dont use tools to mirror input or use virtual machine" but they cant tell that anyways. all top level players farmed feared in ritual league with virtual machine.

    • @mmaxtg8498
      @mmaxtg8498 11 місяців тому +1

      @@MagnusMegamind Reread what I said. One character opens and stays at the start. The other character runs the memory. No 6 accounts, can still make money, no duplicate keystrokes or violations of TOS. Don't put words in my mouth.

    • @UNANTASTBarrr
      @UNANTASTBarrr 11 місяців тому

      @@mmaxtg8498 they nerfed this due to china farm. the player NOT opening the map has only a 20% chance to get the captured beasts.

    • @mmaxtg8498
      @mmaxtg8498 11 місяців тому +2

      @@UNANTASTBarrr Which is what my original post said.

  • @lowtemp9053
    @lowtemp9053 11 місяців тому

    Using the spreadsheet with chaos only shows completely different outputs than when using divines; it states you can input EITHER chaos or divine value but it's only working when inputting divine values.

    • @Zevrael
      @Zevrael 11 місяців тому +1

      Replace the content of D9 with this formula:
      =(C9*$D$2)+B9
      and press Enter. Then select D9 again and drag the little blue dot in the bottom right corner of the cell down to D17. That should fix it.

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому +4

      Sorry , I’m not proficient at excel and spent like 3 hours putting it together the best I could- I’ll fix any mistakes like that as people point them out.

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому +3

      @@Zevrael Fixed. Thanks.

  • @dingdong240779
    @dingdong240779 11 місяців тому

    where to get thoes memery at ?? im new not start on lvl atlas yet an still in lvl gear

  • @Dresden0478
    @Dresden0478 11 місяців тому +1

    Haha dammit I got screwed by the market manipulation lol oh well live and learn.

  • @WsKp.y
    @WsKp.y 11 місяців тому +2

    Now is 6.4 divine each 😢

  • @mechamopelagio3483
    @mechamopelagio3483 11 місяців тому

    so tldr each memory map has 1 harvest beast, do the "h alskhfkahsflkh" trick, kill beasts, once you have kill a harvest beast, leave and open a new map. is it right? for solo farm i mean

    • @mmaxtg8498
      @mmaxtg8498 11 місяців тому

      2-3-4 harvest beasts per map

  • @adamjackson7585
    @adamjackson7585 11 місяців тому

    How fast into league start can this be done? Like Day1 of league start? I feel like buying the first one will take a bit, then somehow the snowball can start. Not sure if people need these beasts day 1?

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому +2

      Leagues start on Fridays. I am doing these by Saturday , every league since they’ve been around. Started buying memories this league at 37c each lol

    • @adamjackson7585
      @adamjackson7585 11 місяців тому

      Tyvm for the reply.@@BeltonPoE

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому

      Anytime homie

  • @c0nnstance
    @c0nnstance 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks. It is sounds cool. But question is where I can find 4.5 divs after acts in order to buy 1st memory 😏

    • @tntgameplay5075
      @tntgameplay5075 11 місяців тому

      Just alc and go with maven and do her invitations. Also do shaper/elder Guardian maps and sell the fragments. Also if your character is a good bosser try doing some shaper for Uber elder fragments

    • @c0nnstance
      @c0nnstance 11 місяців тому

      thanks that definitely works. But in this case you have to progress your atlas that means you have to use currency for improve your build. This is opposite to author described in the video where you use that currency for run memories

    • @hugor1065
      @hugor1065 11 місяців тому +1

      @@c0nnstance First days cost 100c

    • @mmaxtg8498
      @mmaxtg8498 11 місяців тому

      Grabbed some for way below 100c, like 10-20c, in the very very beginning.

    • @NhuQuynh-nv7fp
      @NhuQuynh-nv7fp 11 місяців тому

      It’s super cheap early league like 1.2div, he’s referring to currently it’s 4.5 div

  • @lss3178
    @lss3178 11 місяців тому

    emmm , If two guys Duo farm
    Memories can get beast both ? I am no friend :(
    Want to know that 😅😅

  • @morrigan2433
    @morrigan2433 11 місяців тому +10

    Oh my god belton is so handsome

  • @darkmanddk
    @darkmanddk 11 місяців тому +3

    Absolutely love how you casually sell something at 15 divines. I don't think my personal wealth is even that much three weeks into the league ^^

    • @Kyrosakii
      @Kyrosakii 11 місяців тому

      How?

    • @NoobsDeSroobs
      @NoobsDeSroobs 11 місяців тому

      Because the market runs away from him, he cant farm for hundreds of hours, and he wasts a lot of currency because the game is very punishing unless you know a lot.

    • @Kyrosakii
      @Kyrosakii 11 місяців тому

      @@NoobsDeSroobs Yea the game doesn't teach you how to do stuff. But i mean to make 15 Divs, it only takes you to get the Atlas Essence notes and 2-3 hours of Essence T1 Map farming with Act gear. But i get it in my first league in Legion it took me days to get 15 div and after 2500 hours especially this league it is 40-41 div/hour with T16 Burial MF 8 Mirrors invested. But even that is not enough.. i really want to figure out crafts so you can make over 100 div/hour by not playing for 10+ hours/day.

  • @kevinknoll4504
    @kevinknoll4504 9 місяців тому

    Very nice guide, just don't try this at end of league since this will create insane downtimes between buying new memories and selling old beasts.

  • @ach1mede566
    @ach1mede566 11 місяців тому +1

    Cost of Memory is actually somewhat like 6.7 divines so.... really bad

  • @heraal3633
    @heraal3633 11 місяців тому

    you seems motivated by Poe . thx for u'r vid

  • @Mitchelisawsome
    @Mitchelisawsome 8 місяців тому

    The goat!

  • @tr0l3r
    @tr0l3r 11 місяців тому +1

    Can you farm with 2 accounts 1 main and 1 secondary?

    • @mmaxtg8498
      @mmaxtg8498 11 місяців тому +1

      Yes, open the memory with the weaker account, and have the stronger run the memory. Whichever opens the memory gets all the beasts, so now you're getting 1.2x beasts

    • @tr0l3r
      @tr0l3r 11 місяців тому

      @mmaxtg8498 I know that, but will I get banned for it. Or for trading memory to alt account

    • @mmaxtg8498
      @mmaxtg8498 11 місяців тому

      @@tr0l3r You will not get banned for it. It's not against TOS to have multiple accounts. What is against TOS is to have one keystroke result in multiple actions, like if your movement was being mirrored to the second or other account so they all moved together.

  • @yt-thecuzzy7424
    @yt-thecuzzy7424 6 місяців тому

    does it still work i ran one and there was no beast to be seen ?

  • @nikgame33
    @nikgame33 11 місяців тому

    This league I farmed 20 divine which is more than I ever gotten before, still don’t really get how everyone deopsnsp much more doing the same stuff I do

  • @Niyaki333
    @Niyaki333 11 місяців тому

    Is it really so powerful? I have 100d to spend and Im not sure is it worth to buy memories in bulk

    • @slowdown_
      @slowdown_ 11 місяців тому

      yes. as of now its about ~1.6d profit per memory

  • @busdriverjow
    @busdriverjow 11 місяців тому

    legend man love it

  • @vitalyfortee
    @vitalyfortee 11 місяців тому

    so unless I am doing something wrong it looks like it's around 82c profit because memory of harvest is going for 7 div

    • @jejxkxk
      @jejxkxk 11 місяців тому

      You’re only going to make money off videos like this if you see the video within an hour or two of it being uploaded. Resellers will mass buy all of the supply

  • @Aquadyx
    @Aquadyx 11 місяців тому

    sir, you are a gamer.

  • @smn98498h
    @smn98498h 11 місяців тому +1

    memories are 7 div lol. so its a loss running solo.

  • @Raysureeea
    @Raysureeea 11 місяців тому

    The solo profitability right now is 1 divine per memory

  • @amzarnacht6710
    @amzarnacht6710 11 місяців тому

    I've never seen a memory map... how do you end up with an entire tab of them???

    • @illomens2766
      @illomens2766 11 місяців тому

      buy em from other players

  • @swolluminatiofficial
    @swolluminatiofficial 9 місяців тому

    Ten div an hour to basically afk is wild. Sign me up next league 😂

  • @sirdmz
    @sirdmz 11 місяців тому

    the old curse remains XD once a method of profit making hits youtube, everyone starts running it until it's unprofitable.

  • @Jacksonnn33
    @Jacksonnn33 10 місяців тому

    those memories at the moment cost like at least 17 divine are they still profitable to at least break even?

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  10 місяців тому

      Use the spreadsheet

    • @Jacksonnn33
      @Jacksonnn33 10 місяців тому

      thanks I downloaded it and seems from using that and advice ingame that its not worth to buy and run solo but appreciate the video really great info in it@@BeltonPoE

  • @snaxximan5737
    @snaxximan5737 11 місяців тому +1

    When i tried to buy this memory on day1 i gave up after 30 tries to get them.
    Those memories get sniped so hard that its close to impossible to do if you dont have a group of people all aiming to do this.

  • @simonsayz3925
    @simonsayz3925 11 місяців тому

    can it be that these memories are not traded atm? not a single on in market

  • @colinparrow3950
    @colinparrow3950 11 місяців тому

    are there enough of these memories day 1-3 to even have nearly enough to do this strat? theres 200 on the market 1 month and a half in.

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому

      They’re hyper liquid. 200 is listed at one time. Run a trade alert to see how much they actually get posted (tldr yes to your question and it’s thousands a day to answer mine)

  • @ivancanlas5099
    @ivancanlas5099 6 місяців тому

    Hi can i get a pob of your elemental build?

  • @matejuricic7140
    @matejuricic7140 10 місяців тому

    These memories now cost from 10 do 13 divs... not even profitable any more

  • @TypicalJacobb
    @TypicalJacobb 11 місяців тому +1

    is this viable all league?

    • @tarotaro6933
      @tarotaro6933 11 місяців тому +1

      It is but profit margin is much lower till a point where juicing map is just as good especially when you don't have a full party. But still a good method to make stable income, but the bad thing is it is quite expansive to start and you could be in a very unlucky streak where you keep getting the trash beast. Imagine paying 6div and only get a 10c red beast in return couple times in a row, you will be seriously behind.

  • @marcelsokolovic69
    @marcelsokolovic69 11 місяців тому +2

    they coast like 6.5 divine per memory now .. thats a lot xD

    • @theammar
      @theammar 11 місяців тому +1

      thing is once the video is out it's easy for the market to reach equilibrium. if the price of the 9 beasts combined becomes 2 divs, the memory will go down to 2 divs. same as if the beast prices go up
      so you can only really make bank when the strat is unknown/not well known because the barrier for running/completing the map is so low. vs strats like farming bosses or farming valdos

    • @mmaxtg8498
      @mmaxtg8498 11 місяців тому

      Price will drop again in a few days, but also check the spreadsheet to see expected returns etc.

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому +2

      The price of the memory , outside of being able to afford it once or twice , is not important. The relationship between the cost of the memory and the sale price of the beasts is. It could cost 100 divines per memory, but if the beasts gave back 150 divines , that would be better than a 10 chaos memory that gave back 20c. The % return is often lower on higher input cost things, but the absolute return (in the above case 50% would be 50 divines and case 2 100% would be 10c) is more important especially in hyper liquid markets, since the turnaround time is basically nil and currency is tracker on a per/hr basis

  • @Macdaddy8124U
    @Macdaddy8124U 11 місяців тому +1

    ..... as you all can see..... KNOWLEDGE is how you make 3 mirrors a day

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому +3

      Become the proverbial fisherman, best strategy 100% of the time! 📈

  • @dingo4260
    @dingo4260 11 місяців тому +1

    Does the guy who activates the memories also get capped to 20% or is he still on 100% capture of all beast. 😊 (in full group)

    • @dingo4260
      @dingo4260 11 місяців тому

      @@pathofexilemania677 Jeeez, thats why ppl be hosting these groups then.
      No wonder how they ll got mirror tier gear in week 😂

  • @maciekzawisza614
    @maciekzawisza614 11 місяців тому

    With current beast and memory price it will take 83h to farm mirror solo xd

  • @schlogen
    @schlogen 11 місяців тому +1

    its pronounced reg ex. short for regular expression

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому

      Nice try, Rejects❌❌❌

  • @Okeen12
    @Okeen12 11 місяців тому

    I don’t believe that random broke people in your rotations are honest when they see vivid vultures in their collection

    • @mmaxtg8498
      @mmaxtg8498 11 місяців тому

      Some were random broke people, but the group were those working together on the mirror crafts

  • @gorbachef94
    @gorbachef94 11 місяців тому +1

    bro wheres the discord, if not one why not!

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому

      Linked in description homie!

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому

      Here you go tho:!: discord.gg/qbJwN2ywBA

  • @toxicrengar7572
    @toxicrengar7572 11 місяців тому +1

    after this video the solo strat isnt viable anymore, now you gotta have friends lol

    • @Zevrael
      @Zevrael 11 місяців тому +1

      I put the current prices into the sheet and got 1 div profit per memory.

  • @pozytywniezakrecony151
    @pozytywniezakrecony151 11 місяців тому

    This league is so bad for me. I found around 2 divs and sold stuff for like 6 divs lol. Started 2 weeks later tho.

  • @MrTnbopp123
    @MrTnbopp123 11 місяців тому

    The level of the beast do matter, some red beasts dont spawn in T1 maps

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  11 місяців тому

      Harvest beasts don’t matter . And the expensive red beasts spawn MORE in t1-t4 maps (craicic chimerals)

  • @Commandelicious
    @Commandelicious 10 місяців тому

    So, the memory drops in T14 maps I have the same zero access to as I don't have access to divines. The circle of not having money continues.
    I love this game but I also fucking hate this game.

    • @Commandelicious
      @Commandelicious 10 місяців тому

      Seriously, every guide starts with the assumption that you already have like a couple of them. People playing this game forgot that there are still newbies. And I am apparently one with my only 800 hours.

    • @lakie92
      @lakie92 10 місяців тому

      Run a low investment strat then, white map essences with einhar missions for 2c per map for a while, add in compasses after earning a little to up earnings.

  • @F4Ge
    @F4Ge 11 місяців тому

    HOLY SHIT !!! so it was always possible to make currency in this game without RNG and PayToWin ???