For anyone wondering why the 77th went through TWO years of training in the States, it's because of the lack of shipping. MANY divisions didn't go overseas until the buildup for D-Day because why ship people to England if they are just going to sit and, in the meantime, you have to use precious cargo ships to feed them there? Keep them in the States while you send all the equipment first so you can mate men to material just before D-Day. Same for the Pacific Theatre... One reason the US soldiers were so good once in combat was because for hundreds of thousands of them they trained, trained, trained for f'ing months and months and months before going overseas.
The 77th didn't deploy for 2 years because they weren't an operational division. They were an experimental division the Army formed to literally run tests on. For those two years the Army was running tests and experiments on them. As for the quality of American troops when they first shipped out, that is simply not true. The majority of the troops involved in D-Day were also not raw green troops from the States. We learned how to fight in North Africa, Sicily and Italy prior to D-Day.
Rave when you get our age 30-40s You'll understand why we all wake up early You won't even care what anyone else thinks Drop that Highschool peer pressure BS and you will be free
Flame throwers were used EXTENSIVELY in the island hopping campaign. Very often they were used to help clear undergrowth and heavy vegetation to help reveal where all the traps and wires were hidden.
33:44 This is a DD (duplex drive) Sherman. those "fins" on the back are not a sound system but ducts to redirect both the intake air and exhaust so that the sherman tank can wade in shallower water as it moves from the landing ship to the beach. these shermans would also normally be equiped with propellers and a large canvas rigging to increase their mobility and buoyancy in deeper water. however this particular DD does not have the deployable canvas rigging usually for one of two reasons. 1: the Marines wanted to be able to use their tanks for infantry support on the way to the beach, and the rigging would have gotten in the way. 2: the ocean was shallow enough where the Shermans were released from the Landing ships that the rigging would be redundant and would simply add weight to the tank.
Rave, I gotta thank you. I discovered this guy through you and I have no seen all his videos. Bought some of his merch. He's side splittingly funny. So, thank you.
Check out the Unsubscribe podcast if you haven't. He's on there from time to time. Just avoid the old episodes with the weirdo that yells at people to not say certain things.
15:00 a fair number of retired veterans end up working for the post office, because they can start in their 30s, carry their government benefits over, work another 20 years there, and then get *two* government pensions when they retire fully in their 50s.
"We beat the funny mustache man!" Whatever did Charles Chaplin do? Charles Chaplin is the funny mustache man. I think you mean the other one, the angry mustache man.
@48:00 Yeah... I feel that saying a lot. Don't forget it's sister "Too valuable to production." The long and short of it if you are good at something higher ups will keep you there as long as possible. For example, back in February my supervisor came to me asking "I know you don't want to do x position, but with the person doing the position leaving will you cover it until night shift over." I agreed because night shift was only going until the first week of March. When March came around it was instantly you and the person who was suppose to be doing it are going to alternate days so neither of you would get tired. That lasted maybe 2 weeks before it was just me doing the position because we were constantly short and even though some of those positions I could fill we never alternated. I trained two other people to do it for them to be moved to other programs and I am still doing that position.
10:50 Technically no, but the Kreigsmarine was screaming at Hitler to allow them to U-Boat more American ships as they were attempting to avoid the mistake of WW1. It was inevitable with or without him declaring war; the US would have very likely declared war on Germany at some point. 15:00 Adam Driver is a US Marine, and the only reason he didn't do more time beyond his first 2 years was due to a severe motorcycle injury to the sternum. Baseline for some folks to my knowledge is 2 to 6 years. 17:50 Basic training to my knowledge (2014); USAF 6 weeks; US Navy and Army 9 Weeks, US Marine Corps 12 Weeks. That's just basic. 23:45 Basic training was the most common source of fatalities in the US Army in the "Pax Americana" post-Vietnam; more so than even combat, up until 2003 (to my memory). 33:48 DouglasCampbell already answered, but I'll add; Snorkels. Allows you to drive a vehicle partially submerged, normally needed for river crossings. You see a lot of Russian modern tanks have funky looking ones. 35:30 Wait until you hear the story of the "Stealth Battleship" HMS Revenge as told by Drachinfel. British snuck a whole BB to shell the Germans, and they thought they were being struck by the RAF.
Fun fact about the flamethrower. We had a guy that lived here in WV that utilized that weapon in the battle of Iwo Jima. He won the medal of honor. His name was Hershel "Woody" Williams. He passed away last year.
Just gonna state this. I love how when he says "this flipped the peoples perspective from we don't want problems, to cowabunga it is" the camera panned from the right side to the left, which is where he kept his guns and what looks to be a maucuhitl.
Germany didn’t have to declare war on America because Japan attacked first which went against Germany and Japan’s agreement of defense if the other had war declared on them (Edit) Flame weapons aren’t crimes against humanity
Just so you know, a flamethrower doesn't just kill you by burning you to death. If the flamethrower was being used to clear bunkers even if you avoided the flames you would die. Because the fire consumes all of the oxygen in the room and you will suffocate to death. So basically your options are to burn or suffocate to death, both are really bad ways to die. That being said the life expectancy of a flamethrower operator wasn't long in combat. They were going into combat with two giant tanks full of flammable liquid on their back. If the tanks got hit by a tracer round the operator would go up like a roman candle.
I live in Texas and if I'm mowing the lawn in the middle of summer it's bright and early at like 7-8 in the morning because if you wait till 10 ok or later you'll just never get it done because of how hot and humid it is. And IDC if you're in bed you can either sleep through it or wake up 😂 it's that simple
Dropping Napalm Bombs was big during Vietnam but the Man-Portable (and Tank) Flamethrowers were used extensively in WWII, particularly in the Pacific Theater due to how well dug in the Japanese were on their islands. It was either send in several squads of soldiers to try and root them out, losing dozens in the process, or shoot liquid fire in until they burn to death or suffocate. We chose liquid fire. And a Flamethrower wasn't and STILL is not considered a War Crime, most nations simply don't use them anymore (particularly Western Nations). There are several reasons for this. 1) It is illegal to use the on "Civilian Targets" which seems common sense but think about it. 95% of the Combat the US has been in over the past 24 years has been in areas populated by civilians. So having a dude with a flamethrower on in the middle of an Urban Environment simply won't work. It's bulky and you'll likely end up causing more harm than good. With how "litigated" wars are now (for Westerners) if you have a dude shoot a flamethrower and the building had some terrorists in it, but ALSO some civilians and they all are killed then did that soldier just commit a war crime since he used and "incendiary device on a civilian target"? Depends on who gets to decide. 2) Wars that Western Nations fight in are won or loss based on PR. If the Public turns against the war the US loses. This was evident with Vietnam. We were kicking the North Vietnamese's @sses during the Vietnam War from a "Numbers" standpoint and the US won, tactically speaking, the Tet Offensive but it turned Public Opinion firming against the war. All of that being said, Westerners tend to have weaker stomachs when it comes to war because we've been so removed from them for so long. WWII was the last time one was fought "in the West". So now, Westerns want wars to be "clean" and "heroic" like they see in the movies they grew up on even though that's an oxymoron to "War". But that's how a lot of them feel. So if all of the sudden you saw a bunch of Marines walking up to a building garrisoned by the Taliban and hit it with a Flamethrower, sending all of them screaming out, on fire, and burning to death, then a lot of Americans would find that revolting... Personally, I say "Get some!!!". Taliban, AQ, ISIS... All a bunch of savages. Much like the Japanese were. 3) We simply have more effective weaponry. Sure the Flamethrower was effective once you got to where you needed to be but it was bulky, made you a big target, and was dangerous. Why carry around a flamethrower if you can just mark the target and have a jet or drone drop a bomb on it?
The only one that knew about the atrocities was Churchill and the agents that discovered it for him. He in fact, is quoted as saying that with hold it and it will be used at a better date to motivate soldiers. The military had no clue what was going on and when it found out they went ballistic hence the stories of American soldiers just gunning down camp guards enmass.....
It was Woodrow Wilson and World War 1. Wilson was wanting to jump in onn England's side, but he had just got off an election where he promised to keep America out of the war.
Add America obliterates Iran in 8 hours from fat electrician and can you do my request for the unspeakable horrors of the deep sea causal geographic next please
funny mustache man as you call him had several goofs and agressive moves against America other than just declaring war against us such as trying to get mexico to invade us.
Deciding to declare war on the U.S. was a military decision by Hitler that's only exceeded by the idiocy of opening a two front war. Because yeah, as isolationist as we were back then, we probably would have fought Japan and just continued lend/lease to support Europe. The sucker-punch is the factor that riled the Americans, and Germany had no such equivalent event.
For anyone wondering why the 77th went through TWO years of training in the States, it's because of the lack of shipping. MANY divisions didn't go overseas until the buildup for D-Day because why ship people to England if they are just going to sit and, in the meantime, you have to use precious cargo ships to feed them there? Keep them in the States while you send all the equipment first so you can mate men to material just before D-Day. Same for the Pacific Theatre... One reason the US soldiers were so good once in combat was because for hundreds of thousands of them they trained, trained, trained for f'ing months and months and months before going overseas.
The 77th didn't deploy for 2 years because they weren't an operational division. They were an experimental division the Army formed to literally run tests on. For those two years the Army was running tests and experiments on them. As for the quality of American troops when they first shipped out, that is simply not true. The majority of the troops involved in D-Day were also not raw green troops from the States. We learned how to fight in North Africa, Sicily and Italy prior to D-Day.
33:48 that Sherman tank has a snorkel system attached to it. One is air intake the other exhaust.
They are not speakers.
came to the comments to say this..
Rave when you get our age 30-40s
You'll understand why we all wake up early
You won't even care what anyone else thinks
Drop that Highschool peer pressure BS and you will be free
the army though that Desmond Doss had saved 100 people, he thought he had only saved 50 so they met in the middle and said 75
Flame throwers were used EXTENSIVELY in the island hopping campaign. Very often they were used to help clear undergrowth and heavy vegetation to help reveal where all the traps and wires were hidden.
Also, don't forget flame throwers were invented in World War 1.They were used to help clear out trenches as well....
33:44 This is a DD (duplex drive) Sherman. those "fins" on the back are not a sound system but ducts to redirect both the intake air and exhaust so that the sherman tank can wade in shallower water as it moves from the landing ship to the beach. these shermans would also normally be equiped with propellers and a large canvas rigging to increase their mobility and buoyancy in deeper water. however this particular DD does not have the deployable canvas rigging usually for one of two reasons.
1: the Marines wanted to be able to use their tanks for infantry support on the way to the beach, and the rigging would have gotten in the way.
2: the ocean was shallow enough where the Shermans were released from the Landing ships that the rigging would be redundant and would simply add weight to the tank.
Rave, I gotta thank you. I discovered this guy through you and I have no seen all his videos. Bought some of his merch. He's side splittingly funny. So, thank you.
Check out the Unsubscribe podcast if you haven't. He's on there from time to time. Just avoid the old episodes with the weirdo that yells at people to not say certain things.
@@shewanttheducky495 have, watching it right now actually. There have been episodes that I have almost passed out watching multiple times.
15:00 a fair number of retired veterans end up working for the post office, because they can start in their 30s, carry their government benefits over, work another 20 years there, and then get *two* government pensions when they retire fully in their 50s.
"We beat the funny mustache man!" Whatever did Charles Chaplin do?
Charles Chaplin is the funny mustache man.
I think you mean the other one, the angry mustache man.
@48:00 Yeah... I feel that saying a lot. Don't forget it's sister "Too valuable to production." The long and short of it if you are good at something higher ups will keep you there as long as possible. For example, back in February my supervisor came to me asking "I know you don't want to do x position, but with the person doing the position leaving will you cover it until night shift over." I agreed because night shift was only going until the first week of March. When March came around it was instantly you and the person who was suppose to be doing it are going to alternate days so neither of you would get tired. That lasted maybe 2 weeks before it was just me doing the position because we were constantly short and even though some of those positions I could fill we never alternated. I trained two other people to do it for them to be moved to other programs and I am still doing that position.
10:50 Technically no, but the Kreigsmarine was screaming at Hitler to allow them to U-Boat more American ships as they were attempting to avoid the mistake of WW1. It was inevitable with or without him declaring war; the US would have very likely declared war on Germany at some point.
15:00 Adam Driver is a US Marine, and the only reason he didn't do more time beyond his first 2 years was due to a severe motorcycle injury to the sternum. Baseline for some folks to my knowledge is 2 to 6 years.
17:50 Basic training to my knowledge (2014); USAF 6 weeks; US Navy and Army 9 Weeks, US Marine Corps 12 Weeks. That's just basic.
23:45 Basic training was the most common source of fatalities in the US Army in the "Pax Americana" post-Vietnam; more so than even combat, up until 2003 (to my memory).
33:48 DouglasCampbell already answered, but I'll add; Snorkels. Allows you to drive a vehicle partially submerged, normally needed for river crossings. You see a lot of Russian modern tanks have funky looking ones.
35:30 Wait until you hear the story of the "Stealth Battleship" HMS Revenge as told by Drachinfel. British snuck a whole BB to shell the Germans, and they thought they were being struck by the RAF.
23:44 regular military? Rare. Special forces? All the time.
Fun fact about the flamethrower. We had a guy that lived here in WV that utilized that weapon in the battle of Iwo Jima. He won the medal of honor. His name was Hershel "Woody" Williams. He passed away last year.
The Chad division.
Just gonna state this. I love how when he says "this flipped the peoples perspective from we don't want problems, to cowabunga it is" the camera panned from the right side to the left, which is where he kept his guns and what looks to be a maucuhitl.
The expression you're looking for is "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."
Heck the British developed a flamethrower tank
The Crocodile, Sir Percy Hobart. Fat electron guy did a video about him too.
Germany didn’t have to declare war on America because Japan attacked first which went against Germany and Japan’s agreement of defense if the other had war declared on them
(Edit)
Flame weapons aren’t crimes against humanity
Just so you know, a flamethrower doesn't just kill you by burning you to death. If the flamethrower was being used to clear bunkers even if you avoided the flames you would die. Because the fire consumes all of the oxygen in the room and you will suffocate to death. So basically your options are to burn or suffocate to death, both are really bad ways to die. That being said the life expectancy of a flamethrower operator wasn't long in combat. They were going into combat with two giant tanks full of flammable liquid on their back. If the tanks got hit by a tracer round the operator would go up like a roman candle.
and that's not counting people intentionally aiming for the guy blasting bright streams of fire, because they don't want to burn to death either
Oh no!
They have set us up the bomb!
::screen flickers to life::
Hahahaha, make your time, all your base are belong to us!
I live in Texas and if I'm mowing the lawn in the middle of summer it's bright and early at like 7-8 in the morning because if you wait till 10 ok or later you'll just never get it done because of how hot and humid it is. And IDC if you're in bed you can either sleep through it or wake up 😂 it's that simple
Flamethrower: the enemy cannot hide in the woods if there are no woods!! 😂
Dropping Napalm Bombs was big during Vietnam but the Man-Portable (and Tank) Flamethrowers were used extensively in WWII, particularly in the Pacific Theater due to how well dug in the Japanese were on their islands. It was either send in several squads of soldiers to try and root them out, losing dozens in the process, or shoot liquid fire in until they burn to death or suffocate. We chose liquid fire.
And a Flamethrower wasn't and STILL is not considered a War Crime, most nations simply don't use them anymore (particularly Western Nations). There are several reasons for this.
1) It is illegal to use the on "Civilian Targets" which seems common sense but think about it. 95% of the Combat the US has been in over the past 24 years has been in areas populated by civilians. So having a dude with a flamethrower on in the middle of an Urban Environment simply won't work. It's bulky and you'll likely end up causing more harm than good. With how "litigated" wars are now (for Westerners) if you have a dude shoot a flamethrower and the building had some terrorists in it, but ALSO some civilians and they all are killed then did that soldier just commit a war crime since he used and "incendiary device on a civilian target"? Depends on who gets to decide.
2) Wars that Western Nations fight in are won or loss based on PR. If the Public turns against the war the US loses. This was evident with Vietnam. We were kicking the North Vietnamese's @sses during the Vietnam War from a "Numbers" standpoint and the US won, tactically speaking, the Tet Offensive but it turned Public Opinion firming against the war. All of that being said, Westerners tend to have weaker stomachs when it comes to war because we've been so removed from them for so long. WWII was the last time one was fought "in the West". So now, Westerns want wars to be "clean" and "heroic" like they see in the movies they grew up on even though that's an oxymoron to "War". But that's how a lot of them feel. So if all of the sudden you saw a bunch of Marines walking up to a building garrisoned by the Taliban and hit it with a Flamethrower, sending all of them screaming out, on fire, and burning to death, then a lot of Americans would find that revolting... Personally, I say "Get some!!!". Taliban, AQ, ISIS... All a bunch of savages. Much like the Japanese were.
3) We simply have more effective weaponry. Sure the Flamethrower was effective once you got to where you needed to be but it was bulky, made you a big target, and was dangerous. Why carry around a flamethrower if you can just mark the target and have a jet or drone drop a bomb on it?
If Qui Gon had been female he could have survived getting stabbed by a lightsaber. lelz
42:53 from this statement I think we need to force Rave to play Cod World at War so he can experience both the Soviet and Pacific fronts.
The guys with flamethrowers were targeted first and once they shot the tank first.
How have you not known it was ww2 there is so many games that do it, movies and even tanks with flamethrowers in ww2
One the question of "What about the Jews?" I would counsel to learn about "The Voyage of the Damned".
If you take only episode 1-6, Anakin did indeed destroy the Sith. The prophecy never said how he would do it…but in the end mission accomplished.
the kamikaze sub chat mentioned was the Kaiten. it was basically a manned torpedo.
21:53 Airsoft groups might be what you wanna look into, I'm sure there are some that love a good long campaign.
The only one that knew about the atrocities was Churchill and the agents that discovered it for him. He in fact, is quoted as saying that with hold it and it will be used at a better date to motivate soldiers. The military had no clue what was going on and when it found out they went ballistic hence the stories of American soldiers just gunning down camp guards enmass.....
It was Woodrow Wilson and World War 1. Wilson was wanting to jump in onn England's side, but he had just got off an election where he promised to keep America out of the war.
War is worse. Only the wicked go to hell. There are mostly innocents in war. Yes I know I stole that quote.
MASH: War is War, and Hell is Hell and of the two I believe War to be a whole lot worse...
I served with a guy that stayed in for 35 years
jeez. I didnt know you'd get a free flack jacket for joining the 77'th. Jeez. Thats a lot of division citations.
Thoes things on the back of the tank are snorkels so they can cross deeper waters
The Soviets were huge in the effort. It was a super team effort though. The angry Austrian painter was gonna lose though.
is it bad i know Andrew Garfield specifically as Desmond doss from hacksaw ridge and not spiderman 😂
If you put in your 20 years you get a pension of 40% of your highest amount of base pay at whatever rank you achieved for the rest of your life.
The crayons are the best part, the purple ones are my favorite.
"How comm9n is is to die in basic training?"
Far far far far far more peoplw die in special operatiins trauning than in actual combat.
Add America obliterates Iran in 8 hours from fat electrician and can you do my request for the unspeakable horrors of the deep sea causal geographic next please
Lots of the lifelong military, get leadership roles.
funny mustache man as you call him had several goofs and agressive moves against America other than just declaring war against us such as trying to get mexico to invade us.
I live in Texas we haven't had a day under 100 this week, fuck everyone else I'll start at 8 am no earlier no later.
Red alert 3
Where is Tobey rave? WHERE. IS. TOBEY!!!???
Why is twitch chat so rude?
they just jealous that I give youtube attention too, haha
Deciding to declare war on the U.S. was a military decision by Hitler that's only exceeded by the idiocy of opening a two front war. Because yeah, as isolationist as we were back then, we probably would have fought Japan and just continued lend/lease to support Europe. The sucker-punch is the factor that riled the Americans, and Germany had no such equivalent event.
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